August 3, 2025 • 28 mins
Follows the investigations of an insurance detective whose cases often involve intrigue and deception, blending elements of mystery and drama.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From Hollywood. It's time now for Edmund o'bryen. Has Johnny Dollar?
Is Mitchell Candle you call my office?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Oh yes, mister Kendall. I'm an insurance investigator from Hartford, Connecticut.
I was sent out here to look into the job
as Wilder killing by the company that holds the policy
on his life.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Oh yeah, haven't you called the wrong lawyer of the Dollar.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
I'm defending missus wis I'm prosecuting her.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I understand that I'm not a prosecution witness, not yet.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Anyway, I'm glad to hear that insurance money had nothing
to do with the situation. Mister Dollar, he killed himself,
defends and.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Edmund O'Brien and another adventure of the man with the
action packed expenser God America's fabulous freelance insurance investigator, Yours truly.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Johnny Dollar.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Expense account submitted by special Investigator Johnny Dalla to home office,
Britannia Life Insurance Company, May Hertford, Connecticut.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
The following is an accounting.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Of expenditure during my investigation of the Jarvis Wilder matter.
Expense account item on one hundred and fifty dollars and
fifty cents airfan incidentals between Hartford and Farmington, New Mexico.
It was shortly afternoon when I reached the drowsing western town.
I checked into a hotel and read in the local
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paper that the county grand jury at any moment was
expected to indict the widow, missus Alma Wilder, for the
murder of her husband. I contacted her lawyer by phone,
and a few minutes later walked into his office. Well,
miss door, you read quite a trip, hi am misquando. Yeah,
it's a lot of miles from Hartford. Not too many
hours these days, thank you. I read the papers. The
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indictment comes any minute.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yes, it didn't take long from aress to conviction, with
his little cost.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
To the taxpayers possible. That's the way they liked.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Not that there's anything wrong with the way things have
been handled, you understand.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I haven't gotten too many details of.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Alma missus Wilder and fasted when she was arrested, fessed
again at the inquest that was only yesterday, also only
a formality.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Why they indict them then? Why doesn't she plead guilty
and get it over with?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Cause I won't let her. I wanna trial, cause I'm
going to get her not guilty verdict for on the
grounds of self defense and temporary insanity.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Those grounds have spent a lot of widows, I guess
do you object to that? No, not at all.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I hope you tell me she's innocent. A lot of
money tied up in the policies for Javis's brother and
his estate.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
None is due her.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I wish I could help you on there. Were you
planning on going out to the ranch? Yeah, I thought
I might.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Why.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I wanted to warn you about what kind of people
they are, what kind of it They have been the
most hated people in this part of the state for
two generations. Russell is a twin brother, you know, and
he has not only the appearance of Jovis, but every
single bad quality, selfishness, cruel as they conceit.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Russell has a wife too, hasn't he yes Roses? And
if she shoots him, I won't be surprised. But I'd
advise you to be careful if you're going out there.
Don't push too hard.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
They like to run people off their property.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
I'll watch it. Thanks.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Just what do you expect to accomplish, mister Dollar.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I've got to make a report. That's a murdered routine.
You still have any idea. I'm working with the prosecution
to set up a motive to your client and turn
it into.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
A first degree charge. Forget it. I'm not well.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
They've been awfully quiet, and I've been practicing law long
enough to develop a suspicious mind.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
It was nice for me.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Thanks a lot for the help, mister Kendall. I'll probably
see you again before I leave it.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
The wild Ranch was.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
About fifteen miles out of town, if I report, some five.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Thousand acres and cattle range.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I wheeled a rented car up a road that led
to a large house resting on a noll among a
few pine trees. There were some outbuildings and finally a
grizzled karaka who got up from a bench to stop me.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
As I neared the house.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
You got bidness here?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
That's right, you have to wait. Ain't nobody at home?
Speaker 5 (04:12):
What kind of business?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Nothing to do with ranching. My name is Dolla.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I am here from the East to get a report
on the shooting of Javis Wildler.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
I said? I'm from the East. What's your interest in
the trouble?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
And I've been hired by an insurance company that got a.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Report on it.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Where'd you say he was from the east Hartford, Connecticut?
My volks come from there about come west in the eighties.
You heard of the Shrims back there?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
No, I don't think soon.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
I had daddy had six brothers, so some of their
kin is still around hazard bills.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Where we was from from? You heard of that? Yeah,
it's in the northern part of the state, isn't it
on the Scantic River?
Speaker 6 (04:49):
It marked on the map.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yeah, I know the place, mister shrim I take it.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
You work here on the ranch for more than forty
work for you, old man, Poor Jarvis and Russell was born.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Where were you the other night when Jonas was shot?
I got a cabin to myself.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
That's it over there, That's where I was.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Could you tell me what happened as far as you're concerned,
as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Set down. Sure, I'm old man.
Speaker 7 (05:20):
I lived through some right troublesome.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Time, seeing a lot of men get killed, and I
always sort of figured I stay healthy because I never
meddled with nobody's business, right or wrong.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I'm not sure I know what you're driving at. Are
you advising me to stop meddling.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
It ain't my place to advise a young fellow side.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
I ain't smart enough.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
You asked me.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
As far as I'm concerned, well as fair as I'm concerned,
I don't know what happened.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I still don't catch you. You're telling me that other
people don't know what happened.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
It ain't my place to tell you anything.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I didn't come here to investigate the murder. Well that's
been done and it's in the hands of the authorities.
I was his wife, confessed you.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Yeah, you wait here.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I we're refusing his wife.
Speaker 7 (06:05):
I got short.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Wait a minute. That was it? Wasn't it? You thought
something had been uncovered and that I'd come to look
into it. Isn't that? It tran It don't concern me,
Yes it does. Is there a possibility that Alma Wilder
did not kill her husband?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
He can fast?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Didn't she? That's not what I asked.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
She said she killed him, and I reckon she knows
better than anybody.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Else, don't you. I ain't got time to talk no more.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
I ain't got short all right, Trian, I can't hold you,
but I'll have to go to the police with us.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
Now, don't go stir up a lot of trouble, young,
So don't stir it up, you do.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I got a feeling you're gonna be sorry.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
If it's there to be stirred up, I'll have to
do it. And I guess it's there, all right. But
I can make a deal with you, Shrian, What do
you You talk to me? And I won't go to
the police.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
As an insurance investigator, I'm in a position to make
a deal like that legally, all right.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Young feller, you want to grab it with the tail
you can. It ain't much for a certain what I
saw I heard Jarvis yelling out of That's what woke
me up.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
When I heard the shot, I jumped to the door.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
It was light enough to see and there was bulls laying.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
On the ground. They'd come out of the house.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Yes, And it come over me when I saw him
that she didn't shoot him, cause she was laying on
her belly with her feet towards him, like as if
that's where.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
He'd knocked her. No, that wouldn't mean much with him.
I told you, it wasn't much for certain. So when
I got to where she was, she didn't have no gun.
It was on the ground next to Jarvis. Where was
everybody else?
Speaker 5 (07:39):
They come out of the house, Russell and his wife,
and I got out of sight. It stayed in my
mind that Almud didn't kill him till she said she did.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Is that all Shrand? You're telling me everything.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
That's the whole of it, The way she was laying
and where the gun was. I got there fast and
it come to me that she didn't shoot him. What
are you figuring around doing?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Not sure?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Don't see what I can make out of it. Thanks
for telling me. I'm going back to town. You can
count on my confidence. But if anything develops, I may
have to talk to you again.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
You need to gonna stay or Wrestle and his wife come.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Back after talking to you. I think I'd better get
to them later. And if you don't feel like it,
you don't even have to tell them I was here and.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
I want it ain't my business that you come, and
it ain't their business, then I talk to you.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
There was little enough to go on, certainly back in town.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I approached the authorities on the basis of wanting a
routine report. The investigation was no more thorough than could
be expected. The profession naturally would do away with the
usual need for examination. There were photographs who record the
position of the body, et cetera, results of ballistic comparison
tests to establish the fatal weapon thirty thirty rifle.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
That was about all.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
The autopsy report hadn't as yet been added. I debated
on where to go from there and decided against Kendall.
That depends lawyer. I got permission to visit the cell
of the confessed murderers. Almer Wilder was a slight, well
formed brunette of twenty four. She looked older than her years,
but she would have been quite beautiful under different circumstances.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
I don't understand why you've come to see me, mister Dodge.
I saw him all, how it happened. Didn't you talk
to him? Yes, why have you come to see me?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I read your confession.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I guess I was curious about what kind of a
woman could make such a calm statement about killing her husband.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
It was done and finished, there's no other way to
say it.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I'm curious about what kind of woman could be driven
to the point where she'd do such a thing.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
If you're read it, you know any kind of a woman.
I was kind of a woman. He made out of me.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
In your confession, you said he'd been cruel to you.
What kind of culture did you mean?
Speaker 6 (10:02):
I won't talk about it, physical program physical, Yes, I
won't talk about it. What do you want me?
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I'd hope maybe you would wanna talk to somebody that
though it might help you.
Speaker 8 (10:13):
I told all the truth I'm going to I don't
tell anybody about my life with whom I went through
it and I ex finished.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
I won't talk about it all right time. I've been
here a long.
Speaker 8 (10:25):
Time since I killed him. I've been happier than I
have for three years. It's the kind of a woman
I am now happy.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I haven't noticed, but I really wasn't after that part
of the truth. You hated your husband and that or not?
What about the twin brother?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I hate him?
Speaker 6 (10:47):
Do think it's me?
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Do you?
Speaker 6 (10:49):
Yes? I hate him, hate him in the same way
I hated Jervis.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
What about the sister in love?
Speaker 6 (10:56):
You thought much of anything about Rosemary? Just any jot
to that house? You see? She dead personally. I should
have known then what it was going to be liked.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Wasn't there anybody you liked out there or who liked you?
Why any of the men who.
Speaker 8 (11:11):
Worked in I never saw him, weren't allowed in the house,
and I wasn't allowed outside alone.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Why I'm asking these things because I don't know. If
it's confession, you and I will stick hu. I'm a
right now. Only you know whether or not you really
killed your husband.
Speaker 6 (11:27):
Yes, I did.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
If somebody knew you and felt sorry for how unhappy
you were, he might have killed me.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
There wasn't anybody.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
If somebody had thought enough of you to do that,
you could be thanking him with your confession. It would
be a a noble gesture, I suppose. But if that
is the case, it's gonna come out.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
It wasn't.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
You could save everybody a lot of trouble if.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
You'd tell me it wasn't that nobody would do that
for me. I didn't know anybody.
Speaker 8 (11:53):
I killed him because I hated him when I was
trying to run away and he was trying to top me.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
Don't kill anymore more anymore looking for these Why not?
I'm one, and you don't. I kill job as nobody
else do. Nobody had because I killed him. He was
trying to run away and he wouldn't let me. He's
going to take me back to that house couldn't go back.
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Please please let me stay here alone.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
You better sit down around. I won't fight you anymore.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
We will return you to the second act of yours.
Tooly Johnny Dollar, in just a moment. There's one married
couple you can always depend on for fun on Saturday evenings.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
And when bite them over, it's the easiest thaying tune
the sea. Yes, they're the.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Seal Ball and that man she calls my favorite husband.
You don't have to get involved in the strange predicaments
they do. All you have to do is sit back
and laugh at the results house for asking them in
this evening. The seal Ball and my Favorite Husband will
be waiting on most of these same CBS stations.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Now, with our star.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Edmital O'Brien, we return you to the second act of yours, truly,
Johnny Dollar.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yes, come in.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Well, missus, doller him, mister Kennell. I didn't know whether
you'd be in here. I was an aunt five o'clock.
Oh yes, I sometimes stay in the office until eight
or so. I'm a single man, no place to do
any homework to Now.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Thanks well, I see you escape the wild arrange without
loss of life?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Old, Yeah, I'm in it all right? Nobody was there?
Were lucky?
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Did you uh talk to crutch Field?
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Who crutch Field prosecuted? Oh? I didn't even know who
he was. No, I haven't seen him.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Uh would you like a whiskey?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah, thanks? I think I could stand on good. Ah.
I went to see how'm my wilder? Oh? What's the
matter with her? Just what do you mean? Oh? Where
do you take this? Knee? Yeah? That'll be fine. I mean,
how could any woman live like a prisoner with a
man she hated for three years? Wasn't it three years?
This is the twentieth century. Nobody has to put up
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with anything like that? Why didn't she leave? If it
was that tough? Hey? Thanks?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
I believe she did try to leave one other time
and evidently was discouraged from trying again police.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
That's what she told me. What that she was beaten?
H hard to believe.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
I know it.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
So was uh the case that broke in the papers
last year of the man who'd been locked in a
room for fourteen year?
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Remember, yeah, answering, Well.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Shall we toast the human race?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Mister Dollar, Let's not bother.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Mister Kendall did you ever give a thought to the
possibility that Alma Wilder could be innocent? What I mean
actually innocent, that somebody else could have killed her husband.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
It's the dollar if you've come in to win the
information pertinent to this case. I want to know about it.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Well, it's not quite information yet, but maybe it will be.
Or was it source?
Speaker 2 (15:33):
I can't tell you that now. Why not came to
me in confidence. I've got to keep it that way.
But I faced Alma with it. The way she reacted
makes me think that there's something to it. What do
you say that, I asked her if somebody we don't
know about got rid of her husband for it?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (15:45):
She answered, Actually, she said no, and I don't believe
it has anything you learned pointed to the identity of
this person. No, until we can be more specific, this
is worthless as testimony. Yeah, I know, and give anything
to produce a witness that would blast Crutchfield's case from
here to the state capitol.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, but there's too much a hoop for here. Who knows?
Speaker 6 (16:09):
God?
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Her confession as signed statement a matter of record. Obviously
you're going to follow it up.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Oh, sure, I'll have to.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Now, would there be any way to keep the whole
thing confidential. Uh, without interfering with your work.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I don't know. We'd have to see.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Of course, it's too much to hope for. Won't start
m paneling a jury until day after tomorrow at the earliest.
If you're making any progress and need more time, let
me know I can delay that, all right, I will.
You ought to be congratulated, mister dollar. However you came
about its uh possibility case.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Of plain full lock. As a matter of fact, Ah,
don't say that.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
You put us in the back seat.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
A green horn.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
We Westerners don't like that at all.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
I turned in early the next morning.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I looked up the arresting officer in the Wilder case,
the man who had supervised what little work had been
done on it. It's not only a greenhorn, but a
Johnny come lately. I expected a lot less cooperation than
I got.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Well, i'll be dag.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
I don't know what to make of that. She's a
queer one, all right, but I never thought of nothing
like that.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Maybe there isn't a thing to it, But well, how
did she act that night?
Speaker 7 (17:22):
Well, she was kind of numb when I got out there.
Acted day, she didn't talk till next morning. Russell, that's
the brother says he was an eyewitness. His wife didn't
see nothing, and an old timer that works out there
says he didn't either.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I suppose it's pretty later on a paravan test on her,
isn't it. We can try.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
I don't hold much by myself when you're trying to
prove somebody didn't fire a gun when you want to
know did they?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Then they're all right.
Speaker 7 (17:45):
I guess we'll test her though in the rifle. Yeah,
I'll send that back to you again.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Got her prints off of it.
Speaker 7 (17:51):
But we'll see what else.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
I know. This is a lot of trouble. No, we
need nothing.
Speaker 7 (17:55):
We don't get many like this, And to tell you
the truth, I sort of enjoy trying to work.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Out these things.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
It was about a quarter after ten when I turned
into the Wilder Ranch road, passing the out buildings.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I looked for, but didn't see the old man Shram
who'd been there the day before. You've got business here, Mester, Yeah,
are you, Russell Wilder?
Speaker 9 (18:28):
I don't remember asking you to come. I don't do
business with anybody I don't know. I think you better
get back in your car and drive on out.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I think you'll talk with me, mister Wilder.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
What about the Britannia Life Insurance company sent me out
a few things to take care of on your brother's policies.
Speaker 9 (18:44):
You are the salesman we bought from.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
No. I came out from Hertford, Connecticut.
Speaker 9 (18:48):
Why'd you come all the way from there?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
It's quite a bit of money involved. Company wants to
be sure everything's in order.
Speaker 9 (18:53):
Jarvis and I kept our own books. Everything's in order.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
There seemed to be a few loose ends to take
care of, not that I know about it. I understand
you saw your brother's wife kill him.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
I saw it. That's what you told the police. But
it's not true.
Speaker 9 (19:12):
Maybe I didn't hear you.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Sometimes it doesn't do any good to throw your weight around,
no matter what kind of reputation you got for being rough.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
This is one of those times while they're so take.
Speaker 9 (19:23):
It easy and you better get out of here, get
off my line.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
You can put me off, it won't do any good.
Murder doesn't brush off that easy. And you're in this
one up to your neck. Say what you gotta say.
I said it.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
You didn't see your brother get killed. You know it,
And the police are working now to prove it.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
I saw it.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
What were you doing outside at eleven at night? Didn't
the sound of the shot bring you out?
Speaker 1 (19:49):
She killed him.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
It's not the open and shutcase you thought they had
against it. Why did you lie about seeing her shoot him?
Speaker 9 (19:55):
Didn't make any difference. I do things the way I
think I ought to be done. You got no right
to ask me questions.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I don't have to ask you anymore. I've found out
all I want. Yeah, wait a minute, let go, I may.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
What do you want? She killed him? It was the
same as if I saw her. I know she killed him. No,
they don't. She said she did.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Now they want to find out why she said it.
She's not the only one in the picture anymore. You're
in it too. You could have done it, kill my
own brother. Your reputation says you could have your I
mean full of hate. Both of you seem to get
a lot of satisfaction out of kicking your wives around.
That's what passed for love and your marriage is what
can you expect people to think about the association.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Between you and Jervis. You don't kill your brother? Why
not for the insurance money and the ranch? I'll kill
you if you don't stop talking like that, you know Wilder,
I think you would. I guess that tells me everything
I wanted to know. Oh yeah, come all right, just
(21:01):
been out to the ranch.
Speaker 6 (21:02):
I'll never see it again.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
And I finally met your brother in.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
Law or him again.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
How did you happen to marry Jarvis?
Speaker 6 (21:10):
Cause my friends were all married. I wanted to be.
Speaker 8 (21:13):
I was dumb enough to believe his promises he could
be different when he wanted to be a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Anywhere the rifle you shot him with is it his?
Speaker 6 (21:23):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
That you knew where he kept? Yes, in the bedroom
he kept it loaded. Yes, And you took it when
you tried to sneak out of the house.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
Yes. I had my mind made up to kill him
this time if he tried to stop me.
Speaker 8 (21:37):
He was asleep and you got up and got dressed,
shirt and leave eyes and shoes.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
He didn't wake up while you were dressing. What if
he had Were you near the rifle?
Speaker 6 (21:49):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Is there a cartridge in the chamber.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
I don't know very much about him, I think so.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
You ever shot the rifle before?
Speaker 6 (21:58):
One like it? Long time?
Speaker 1 (22:00):
How did you cock the rifle with the lever? Over
the hammer. What when you shot him? Did you cock
the rifle with the hammer of the lever?
Speaker 6 (22:08):
I'm not sure? Now what difference?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Does it make a lot of difference? You'd cock it
one way if the cartridge was in the chamber, and
the other way if you had to bring one up
from the magazine.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
You know that. Yes, which way?
Speaker 6 (22:20):
I remember? And it doesn't make any difference, Yes, it does.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
One way would have left an ejected cartridge on the
ground and the police would have found it.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
They didn't ask me these questions.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
They didn't have any reason not to believe your confession.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
It's true.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Did Russell see you kill your husband?
Speaker 6 (22:32):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Did he tell the police he saw you?
Speaker 6 (22:34):
Yes? He said she killed my brother. I'm a weakness.
I saw he said that he.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Was lying, wasn't he No, he saw me. He told
me he was lying.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
He didn't he saw me.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
He didn't see you. He didn't see you because you
didn't kill him.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
I did.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Did Russell kill him? Did he? He could have come on?
Tell me the truth, cow man, tell me the truth. Huh?
What is it, Officer Dandy said? Word? He wants you
to come over, can't it wait?
Speaker 7 (23:01):
He says, it's mighty important, and you better.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Come all right. It wouldn't have to be so rough,
you know. I'm h was it? You know, I'm not
certain something about the rifle they was working on. I
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think we did her, dollar. I think we did her
I hope. So look right here, and this is the
murder weapon. Didn't bother a lot. But look at that
butt plate.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
Yeah, jammed into the ribbing on the plate and into
the indentations for the screwheads.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
More on the one side. We got that cover too.
Speaker 7 (23:48):
And you told me how she was lying with her
feet towards the deceased, Well that figures in two. And
I called back the corner about some march they found
in Jarvis's arm teeth, Mark Harry. See, yeah, it's done
a lot of work, dandy, And next time I won't wait. Anyhow,
we didn't have a Marlin rifle like the murder gun,
but it didn't make no difference. We took one of
our winchesters out on some dirt. We sort of guessed
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at the angle to get more dirt onto one half
of the plate than the other, like that Marlin.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Has in it. That's it, Dandy, You've got it here.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
We jammed the stock on the ground and pulled the trigger.
The recoil pushed the butt plate into the ground, and
we got dirt in it, about the same as the marlin.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
It's good work.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Say, could we phone Mitchell Kendall? I promised him he'd
be in on this opposite dandy and I waited twenty
minutes for candle outside. Alma whiless cell and we went
in without it. Itscept for a while to realize how
much we knew now about what had happened.
Speaker 7 (24:46):
Why here I want to keep on saying that, missus Wiler,
it ain't true.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
It can't be.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
You didn't know anything about that rifle. You didn't have
it when you left the house. Javis had it when
he came out after you didn't.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
He I'm scared. I don't know what happened.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
We can tell you. He tried.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
I had to stop you outside with a rifle.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
It was calm.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
I don't know, we do, Alma. He tried to stop
you and you bit him. He threw you with one
arm and the rifle fell from the other went off
when it hit the ground.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
Everything fits in and you were lying and set your way.
You couldn't have shot him and got there.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Nothing you can say now will change it. We know
what happened. It's true, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
Yes, Yes, it's true.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Why didn't you tell us you made a false confession
and stuck with it? What made you do that? What
were you afraid of? Were you afraid of? Russell?
Speaker 6 (25:32):
I was afraid I'd have to go back to that house.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
I mean it's it's better to go to prison.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
Yes, I wouldn't have died for it, would I? But
I will know?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Why should you? Alma? What do you mean he.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
Said I would? Russell said I would? He said, you
killed my brother. I am a witness. I am a
witness before the law. Don't kill you. I swear no
matter where you go, I will. And they will. That's
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the kind of men they are when they say, if
they can do anything, please these you've got to let
me stay here.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Expense account Item too miscellaneous one hundred and eighty five
dollars item free, same as item one. Transportation back to
Hartford expense account total five hundred and forty dollars remox
No pleasant ones. The girl who'd reached the point where
prisons seem better than what we call freedom is giving
up both for a hospital where they hope she'll improve
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its Truly Johnny Dahr.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Yours Truly Johnny Dollar stars Edmond O'Brien in the title
role and is written by Gil Dodd with music by
Wilbur Hatch. Edmund O'Brien's latest picture as the Paramount Picture production,
The Redhead and the Cowboy. Featured in tonight's cast were
Parley Bear, Tim Graham, Bill Conrad Her Butterfield and Mary Lansing.
Yours Truly Johnny Dollar is produced and directed by him
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us next week at this time when Edmund O'Brien returns.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
As Yours Truly Johnny Dollar.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
There have been some changes made, and it's faster, it's funnier,
it's got new life and a brand new punch because
Dan Murray's taken over.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
What show is this?
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Why CBS Saturday Night Musical Quiz Sing It Again that
are of melody, mirth and money that's heard on most.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Of these same CBS stations. Yes, Jan Murray is your
new host.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Be sure to hear the new Sing It Again with
Jan Murray this evening on CBS. Stay tuned now for
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same CBS stations. This is CBS where you'll laugh at
Jack Benny every Sunday night. The Columbia Broadcasting System
From Hollywood. It's time now for Edmund o'bryen. Has Johnny Dollar?
Is Mitchell Candle you call my office?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Oh yes, mister Kendall. I'm an insurance investigator from Hartford, Connecticut.
I was sent out here to look into the job
as Wilder killing by the company that holds the policy
on his life.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Oh yeah, haven't you called the wrong lawyer of the Dollar.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
I'm defending missus wis I'm prosecuting her.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I understand that I'm not a prosecution witness, not yet.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Anyway, I'm glad to hear that insurance money had nothing
to do with the situation. Mister Dollar, he killed himself,
defends and.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Edmund O'Brien and another adventure of the man with the
action packed expenser God America's fabulous freelance insurance investigator, Yours truly.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Johnny Dollar.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Expense account submitted by special Investigator Johnny Dalla to home office,
Britannia Life Insurance Company, May Hertford, Connecticut.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
The following is an accounting.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Of expenditure during my investigation of the Jarvis Wilder matter.
Expense account item on one hundred and fifty dollars and
fifty cents airfan incidentals between Hartford and Farmington, New Mexico.
It was shortly afternoon when I reached the drowsing western town.
I checked into a hotel and read in the local
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paper that the county grand jury at any moment was
expected to indict the widow, missus Alma Wilder, for the
murder of her husband. I contacted her lawyer by phone,
and a few minutes later walked into his office. Well,
miss door, you read quite a trip, hi am misquando. Yeah,
it's a lot of miles from Hartford. Not too many
hours these days, thank you. I read the papers. The
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indictment comes any minute.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yes, it didn't take long from aress to conviction, with
his little cost.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
To the taxpayers possible. That's the way they liked.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Not that there's anything wrong with the way things have
been handled, you understand.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I haven't gotten too many details of.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Alma missus Wilder and fasted when she was arrested, fessed
again at the inquest that was only yesterday, also only
a formality.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Why they indict them then? Why doesn't she plead guilty
and get it over with?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Cause I won't let her. I wanna trial, cause I'm
going to get her not guilty verdict for on the
grounds of self defense and temporary insanity.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Those grounds have spent a lot of widows, I guess
do you object to that? No, not at all.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I hope you tell me she's innocent. A lot of
money tied up in the policies for Javis's brother and
his estate.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
None is due her.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I wish I could help you on there. Were you
planning on going out to the ranch? Yeah, I thought
I might.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Why.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I wanted to warn you about what kind of people
they are, what kind of it They have been the
most hated people in this part of the state for
two generations. Russell is a twin brother, you know, and
he has not only the appearance of Jovis, but every
single bad quality, selfishness, cruel as they conceit.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Russell has a wife too, hasn't he yes Roses? And
if she shoots him, I won't be surprised. But I'd
advise you to be careful if you're going out there.
Don't push too hard.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
They like to run people off their property.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
I'll watch it. Thanks.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Just what do you expect to accomplish, mister Dollar.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I've got to make a report. That's a murdered routine.
You still have any idea. I'm working with the prosecution
to set up a motive to your client and turn
it into.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
A first degree charge. Forget it. I'm not well.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
They've been awfully quiet, and I've been practicing law long
enough to develop a suspicious mind.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
It was nice for me.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Thanks a lot for the help, mister Kendall. I'll probably
see you again before I leave it.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
The wild Ranch was.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
About fifteen miles out of town, if I report, some five.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Thousand acres and cattle range.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I wheeled a rented car up a road that led
to a large house resting on a noll among a
few pine trees. There were some outbuildings and finally a
grizzled karaka who got up from a bench to stop me.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
As I neared the house.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
You got bidness here?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
That's right, you have to wait. Ain't nobody at home?
Speaker 5 (04:12):
What kind of business?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Nothing to do with ranching. My name is Dolla.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I am here from the East to get a report
on the shooting of Javis Wildler.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
I said? I'm from the East. What's your interest in
the trouble?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
And I've been hired by an insurance company that got a.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Report on it.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Where'd you say he was from the east Hartford, Connecticut?
My volks come from there about come west in the eighties.
You heard of the Shrims back there?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
No, I don't think soon.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
I had daddy had six brothers, so some of their
kin is still around hazard bills.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Where we was from from? You heard of that? Yeah,
it's in the northern part of the state, isn't it
on the Scantic River?
Speaker 6 (04:49):
It marked on the map.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yeah, I know the place, mister shrim I take it.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
You work here on the ranch for more than forty
work for you, old man, Poor Jarvis and Russell was born.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Where were you the other night when Jonas was shot?
I got a cabin to myself.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
That's it over there, That's where I was.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Could you tell me what happened as far as you're concerned,
as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Set down. Sure, I'm old man.
Speaker 7 (05:20):
I lived through some right troublesome.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Time, seeing a lot of men get killed, and I
always sort of figured I stay healthy because I never
meddled with nobody's business, right or wrong.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I'm not sure I know what you're driving at. Are
you advising me to stop meddling.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
It ain't my place to advise a young fellow side.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
I ain't smart enough.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
You asked me.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
As far as I'm concerned, well as fair as I'm concerned,
I don't know what happened.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I still don't catch you. You're telling me that other
people don't know what happened.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
It ain't my place to tell you anything.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I didn't come here to investigate the murder. Well that's
been done and it's in the hands of the authorities.
I was his wife, confessed you.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Yeah, you wait here.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I we're refusing his wife.
Speaker 7 (06:05):
I got short.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Wait a minute. That was it? Wasn't it? You thought
something had been uncovered and that I'd come to look
into it. Isn't that? It tran It don't concern me,
Yes it does. Is there a possibility that Alma Wilder
did not kill her husband?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
He can fast?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Didn't she? That's not what I asked.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
She said she killed him, and I reckon she knows
better than anybody.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Else, don't you. I ain't got time to talk no more.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
I ain't got short all right, Trian, I can't hold you,
but I'll have to go to the police with us.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
Now, don't go stir up a lot of trouble, young,
So don't stir it up, you do.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I got a feeling you're gonna be sorry.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
If it's there to be stirred up, I'll have to
do it. And I guess it's there, all right. But
I can make a deal with you, Shrian, What do
you You talk to me? And I won't go to
the police.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
As an insurance investigator, I'm in a position to make
a deal like that legally, all right.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Young feller, you want to grab it with the tail
you can. It ain't much for a certain what I
saw I heard Jarvis yelling out of That's what woke
me up.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
When I heard the shot, I jumped to the door.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
It was light enough to see and there was bulls laying.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
On the ground. They'd come out of the house.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Yes, And it come over me when I saw him
that she didn't shoot him, cause she was laying on
her belly with her feet towards him, like as if
that's where.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
He'd knocked her. No, that wouldn't mean much with him.
I told you, it wasn't much for certain. So when
I got to where she was, she didn't have no gun.
It was on the ground next to Jarvis. Where was
everybody else?
Speaker 5 (07:39):
They come out of the house, Russell and his wife,
and I got out of sight. It stayed in my
mind that Almud didn't kill him till she said she did.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Is that all Shrand? You're telling me everything.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
That's the whole of it, The way she was laying
and where the gun was. I got there fast and
it come to me that she didn't shoot him. What
are you figuring around doing?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Not sure?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Don't see what I can make out of it. Thanks
for telling me. I'm going back to town. You can
count on my confidence. But if anything develops, I may
have to talk to you again.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
You need to gonna stay or Wrestle and his wife come.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Back after talking to you. I think I'd better get
to them later. And if you don't feel like it,
you don't even have to tell them I was here and.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
I want it ain't my business that you come, and
it ain't their business, then I talk to you.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
There was little enough to go on, certainly back in town.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I approached the authorities on the basis of wanting a
routine report. The investigation was no more thorough than could
be expected. The profession naturally would do away with the
usual need for examination. There were photographs who record the
position of the body, et cetera, results of ballistic comparison
tests to establish the fatal weapon thirty thirty rifle.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
That was about all.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
The autopsy report hadn't as yet been added. I debated
on where to go from there and decided against Kendall.
That depends lawyer. I got permission to visit the cell
of the confessed murderers. Almer Wilder was a slight, well
formed brunette of twenty four. She looked older than her years,
but she would have been quite beautiful under different circumstances.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
I don't understand why you've come to see me, mister Dodge.
I saw him all, how it happened. Didn't you talk
to him? Yes, why have you come to see me?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I read your confession.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I guess I was curious about what kind of a
woman could make such a calm statement about killing her husband.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
It was done and finished, there's no other way to
say it.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I'm curious about what kind of woman could be driven
to the point where she'd do such a thing.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
If you're read it, you know any kind of a woman.
I was kind of a woman. He made out of me.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
In your confession, you said he'd been cruel to you.
What kind of culture did you mean?
Speaker 6 (10:02):
I won't talk about it, physical program physical, Yes, I
won't talk about it. What do you want me?
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I'd hope maybe you would wanna talk to somebody that
though it might help you.
Speaker 8 (10:13):
I told all the truth I'm going to I don't
tell anybody about my life with whom I went through
it and I ex finished.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
I won't talk about it all right time. I've been
here a long.
Speaker 8 (10:25):
Time since I killed him. I've been happier than I
have for three years. It's the kind of a woman
I am now happy.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I haven't noticed, but I really wasn't after that part
of the truth. You hated your husband and that or not?
What about the twin brother?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I hate him?
Speaker 6 (10:47):
Do think it's me?
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Do you?
Speaker 6 (10:49):
Yes? I hate him, hate him in the same way
I hated Jervis.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
What about the sister in love?
Speaker 6 (10:56):
You thought much of anything about Rosemary? Just any jot
to that house? You see? She dead personally. I should
have known then what it was going to be liked.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Wasn't there anybody you liked out there or who liked you?
Why any of the men who.
Speaker 8 (11:11):
Worked in I never saw him, weren't allowed in the house,
and I wasn't allowed outside alone.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Why I'm asking these things because I don't know. If
it's confession, you and I will stick hu. I'm a
right now. Only you know whether or not you really
killed your husband.
Speaker 6 (11:27):
Yes, I did.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
If somebody knew you and felt sorry for how unhappy
you were, he might have killed me.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
There wasn't anybody.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
If somebody had thought enough of you to do that,
you could be thanking him with your confession. It would
be a a noble gesture, I suppose. But if that
is the case, it's gonna come out.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
It wasn't.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
You could save everybody a lot of trouble if.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
You'd tell me it wasn't that nobody would do that
for me. I didn't know anybody.
Speaker 8 (11:53):
I killed him because I hated him when I was
trying to run away and he was trying to top me.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
Don't kill anymore more anymore looking for these Why not?
I'm one, and you don't. I kill job as nobody
else do. Nobody had because I killed him. He was
trying to run away and he wouldn't let me. He's
going to take me back to that house couldn't go back.
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Please please let me stay here alone.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
You better sit down around. I won't fight you anymore.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
We will return you to the second act of yours.
Tooly Johnny Dollar, in just a moment. There's one married
couple you can always depend on for fun on Saturday evenings.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
And when bite them over, it's the easiest thaying tune
the sea. Yes, they're the.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Seal Ball and that man she calls my favorite husband.
You don't have to get involved in the strange predicaments
they do. All you have to do is sit back
and laugh at the results house for asking them in
this evening. The seal Ball and my Favorite Husband will
be waiting on most of these same CBS stations.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Now, with our star.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Edmital O'Brien, we return you to the second act of yours, truly,
Johnny Dollar.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yes, come in.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Well, missus, doller him, mister Kennell. I didn't know whether
you'd be in here. I was an aunt five o'clock.
Oh yes, I sometimes stay in the office until eight
or so. I'm a single man, no place to do
any homework to Now.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Thanks well, I see you escape the wild arrange without
loss of life?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Old, Yeah, I'm in it all right? Nobody was there?
Were lucky?
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Did you uh talk to crutch Field?
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Who crutch Field prosecuted? Oh? I didn't even know who
he was. No, I haven't seen him.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Uh would you like a whiskey?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah, thanks? I think I could stand on good. Ah.
I went to see how'm my wilder? Oh? What's the
matter with her? Just what do you mean? Oh? Where
do you take this? Knee? Yeah? That'll be fine. I mean,
how could any woman live like a prisoner with a
man she hated for three years? Wasn't it three years?
This is the twentieth century. Nobody has to put up
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with anything like that? Why didn't she leave? If it
was that tough? Hey? Thanks?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
I believe she did try to leave one other time
and evidently was discouraged from trying again police.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
That's what she told me. What that she was beaten?
H hard to believe.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
I know it.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
So was uh the case that broke in the papers
last year of the man who'd been locked in a
room for fourteen year?
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Remember, yeah, answering, Well.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Shall we toast the human race?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Mister Dollar, Let's not bother.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Mister Kendall did you ever give a thought to the
possibility that Alma Wilder could be innocent? What I mean
actually innocent, that somebody else could have killed her husband.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
It's the dollar if you've come in to win the
information pertinent to this case. I want to know about it.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Well, it's not quite information yet, but maybe it will be.
Or was it source?
Speaker 2 (15:33):
I can't tell you that now. Why not came to
me in confidence. I've got to keep it that way.
But I faced Alma with it. The way she reacted
makes me think that there's something to it. What do
you say that, I asked her if somebody we don't
know about got rid of her husband for it?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (15:45):
She answered, Actually, she said no, and I don't believe
it has anything you learned pointed to the identity of
this person. No, until we can be more specific, this
is worthless as testimony. Yeah, I know, and give anything
to produce a witness that would blast Crutchfield's case from
here to the state capitol.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, but there's too much a hoop for here. Who knows?
Speaker 6 (16:09):
God?
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Her confession as signed statement a matter of record. Obviously
you're going to follow it up.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Oh, sure, I'll have to.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Now, would there be any way to keep the whole
thing confidential. Uh, without interfering with your work.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I don't know. We'd have to see.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Of course, it's too much to hope for. Won't start
m paneling a jury until day after tomorrow at the earliest.
If you're making any progress and need more time, let
me know I can delay that, all right, I will.
You ought to be congratulated, mister dollar. However you came
about its uh possibility case.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Of plain full lock. As a matter of fact, Ah,
don't say that.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
You put us in the back seat.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
A green horn.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
We Westerners don't like that at all.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
I turned in early the next morning.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I looked up the arresting officer in the Wilder case,
the man who had supervised what little work had been
done on it. It's not only a greenhorn, but a
Johnny come lately. I expected a lot less cooperation than
I got.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Well, i'll be dag.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
I don't know what to make of that. She's a
queer one, all right, but I never thought of nothing
like that.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Maybe there isn't a thing to it, But well, how
did she act that night?
Speaker 7 (17:22):
Well, she was kind of numb when I got out there.
Acted day, she didn't talk till next morning. Russell, that's
the brother says he was an eyewitness. His wife didn't
see nothing, and an old timer that works out there
says he didn't either.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I suppose it's pretty later on a paravan test on her,
isn't it. We can try.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
I don't hold much by myself when you're trying to
prove somebody didn't fire a gun when you want to
know did they?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Then they're all right.
Speaker 7 (17:45):
I guess we'll test her though in the rifle. Yeah,
I'll send that back to you again.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Got her prints off of it.
Speaker 7 (17:51):
But we'll see what else.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
I know. This is a lot of trouble. No, we
need nothing.
Speaker 7 (17:55):
We don't get many like this, And to tell you
the truth, I sort of enjoy trying to work.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Out these things.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
It was about a quarter after ten when I turned
into the Wilder Ranch road, passing the out buildings.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I looked for, but didn't see the old man Shram
who'd been there the day before. You've got business here, Mester, Yeah,
are you, Russell Wilder?
Speaker 9 (18:28):
I don't remember asking you to come. I don't do
business with anybody I don't know. I think you better
get back in your car and drive on out.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I think you'll talk with me, mister Wilder.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
What about the Britannia Life Insurance company sent me out
a few things to take care of on your brother's policies.
Speaker 9 (18:44):
You are the salesman we bought from.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
No. I came out from Hertford, Connecticut.
Speaker 9 (18:48):
Why'd you come all the way from there?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
It's quite a bit of money involved. Company wants to
be sure everything's in order.
Speaker 9 (18:53):
Jarvis and I kept our own books. Everything's in order.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
There seemed to be a few loose ends to take
care of, not that I know about it. I understand
you saw your brother's wife kill him.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
I saw it. That's what you told the police. But
it's not true.
Speaker 9 (19:12):
Maybe I didn't hear you.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Sometimes it doesn't do any good to throw your weight around,
no matter what kind of reputation you got for being rough.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
This is one of those times while they're so take.
Speaker 9 (19:23):
It easy and you better get out of here, get
off my line.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
You can put me off, it won't do any good.
Murder doesn't brush off that easy. And you're in this
one up to your neck. Say what you gotta say.
I said it.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
You didn't see your brother get killed. You know it,
And the police are working now to prove it.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
I saw it.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
What were you doing outside at eleven at night? Didn't
the sound of the shot bring you out?
Speaker 1 (19:49):
She killed him.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
It's not the open and shutcase you thought they had
against it. Why did you lie about seeing her shoot him?
Speaker 9 (19:55):
Didn't make any difference. I do things the way I
think I ought to be done. You got no right
to ask me questions.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I don't have to ask you anymore. I've found out
all I want. Yeah, wait a minute, let go, I may.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
What do you want? She killed him? It was the
same as if I saw her. I know she killed him. No,
they don't. She said she did.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Now they want to find out why she said it.
She's not the only one in the picture anymore. You're
in it too. You could have done it, kill my
own brother. Your reputation says you could have your I
mean full of hate. Both of you seem to get
a lot of satisfaction out of kicking your wives around.
That's what passed for love and your marriage is what
can you expect people to think about the association.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Between you and Jervis. You don't kill your brother? Why
not for the insurance money and the ranch? I'll kill
you if you don't stop talking like that, you know Wilder,
I think you would. I guess that tells me everything
I wanted to know. Oh yeah, come all right, just
(21:01):
been out to the ranch.
Speaker 6 (21:02):
I'll never see it again.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
And I finally met your brother in.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
Law or him again.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
How did you happen to marry Jarvis?
Speaker 6 (21:10):
Cause my friends were all married. I wanted to be.
Speaker 8 (21:13):
I was dumb enough to believe his promises he could
be different when he wanted to be a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Anywhere the rifle you shot him with is it his?
Speaker 6 (21:23):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
That you knew where he kept? Yes, in the bedroom
he kept it loaded. Yes, And you took it when
you tried to sneak out of the house.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
Yes. I had my mind made up to kill him
this time if he tried to stop me.
Speaker 8 (21:37):
He was asleep and you got up and got dressed,
shirt and leave eyes and shoes.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
He didn't wake up while you were dressing. What if
he had Were you near the rifle?
Speaker 6 (21:49):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Is there a cartridge in the chamber.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
I don't know very much about him, I think so.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
You ever shot the rifle before?
Speaker 6 (21:58):
One like it? Long time?
Speaker 1 (22:00):
How did you cock the rifle with the lever? Over
the hammer. What when you shot him? Did you cock
the rifle with the hammer of the lever?
Speaker 6 (22:08):
I'm not sure? Now what difference?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Does it make a lot of difference? You'd cock it
one way if the cartridge was in the chamber, and
the other way if you had to bring one up
from the magazine.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
You know that. Yes, which way?
Speaker 6 (22:20):
I remember? And it doesn't make any difference, Yes, it does.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
One way would have left an ejected cartridge on the
ground and the police would have found it.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
They didn't ask me these questions.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
They didn't have any reason not to believe your confession.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
It's true.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Did Russell see you kill your husband?
Speaker 6 (22:32):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Did he tell the police he saw you?
Speaker 6 (22:34):
Yes? He said she killed my brother. I'm a weakness.
I saw he said that he.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Was lying, wasn't he No, he saw me. He told
me he was lying.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
He didn't he saw me.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
He didn't see you. He didn't see you because you
didn't kill him.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
I did.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Did Russell kill him? Did he? He could have come on?
Tell me the truth, cow man, tell me the truth. Huh?
What is it, Officer Dandy said? Word? He wants you
to come over, can't it wait?
Speaker 7 (23:01):
He says, it's mighty important, and you better.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Come all right. It wouldn't have to be so rough,
you know. I'm h was it? You know, I'm not
certain something about the rifle they was working on. I
(23:32):
think we did her, dollar. I think we did her
I hope. So look right here, and this is the
murder weapon. Didn't bother a lot. But look at that
butt plate.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
Yeah, jammed into the ribbing on the plate and into
the indentations for the screwheads.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
More on the one side. We got that cover too.
Speaker 7 (23:48):
And you told me how she was lying with her
feet towards the deceased, Well that figures in two. And
I called back the corner about some march they found
in Jarvis's arm teeth, Mark Harry. See, yeah, it's done
a lot of work, dandy, And next time I won't wait. Anyhow,
we didn't have a Marlin rifle like the murder gun,
but it didn't make no difference. We took one of
our winchesters out on some dirt. We sort of guessed
(24:10):
at the angle to get more dirt onto one half
of the plate than the other, like that Marlin.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Has in it. That's it, Dandy, You've got it here.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
We jammed the stock on the ground and pulled the trigger.
The recoil pushed the butt plate into the ground, and
we got dirt in it, about the same as the marlin.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
It's good work.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Say, could we phone Mitchell Kendall? I promised him he'd
be in on this opposite dandy and I waited twenty
minutes for candle outside. Alma whiless cell and we went
in without it. Itscept for a while to realize how
much we knew now about what had happened.
Speaker 7 (24:46):
Why here I want to keep on saying that, missus Wiler,
it ain't true.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
It can't be.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
You didn't know anything about that rifle. You didn't have
it when you left the house. Javis had it when
he came out after you didn't.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
He I'm scared. I don't know what happened.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
We can tell you. He tried.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
I had to stop you outside with a rifle.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
It was calm.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
I don't know, we do, Alma. He tried to stop
you and you bit him. He threw you with one
arm and the rifle fell from the other went off
when it hit the ground.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
Everything fits in and you were lying and set your way.
You couldn't have shot him and got there.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Nothing you can say now will change it. We know
what happened. It's true, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
Yes, Yes, it's true.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Why didn't you tell us you made a false confession
and stuck with it? What made you do that? What
were you afraid of? Were you afraid of? Russell?
Speaker 6 (25:32):
I was afraid I'd have to go back to that house.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
I mean it's it's better to go to prison.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
Yes, I wouldn't have died for it, would I? But
I will know?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Why should you? Alma? What do you mean he.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
Said I would? Russell said I would? He said, you
killed my brother. I am a witness. I am a
witness before the law. Don't kill you. I swear no
matter where you go, I will. And they will. That's
(26:11):
the kind of men they are when they say, if
they can do anything, please these you've got to let
me stay here.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Expense account Item too miscellaneous one hundred and eighty five
dollars item free, same as item one. Transportation back to
Hartford expense account total five hundred and forty dollars remox
No pleasant ones. The girl who'd reached the point where
prisons seem better than what we call freedom is giving
up both for a hospital where they hope she'll improve
(27:03):
its Truly Johnny Dahr.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Yours Truly Johnny Dollar stars Edmond O'Brien in the title
role and is written by Gil Dodd with music by
Wilbur Hatch. Edmund O'Brien's latest picture as the Paramount Picture production,
The Redhead and the Cowboy. Featured in tonight's cast were
Parley Bear, Tim Graham, Bill Conrad Her Butterfield and Mary Lansing.
Yours Truly Johnny Dollar is produced and directed by him
(27:36):
del Vallie. This is Dick Cutting inviting you to join
us next week at this time when Edmund O'Brien returns.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
As Yours Truly Johnny Dollar.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
There have been some changes made, and it's faster, it's funnier,
it's got new life and a brand new punch because
Dan Murray's taken over.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
What show is this?
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Why CBS Saturday Night Musical Quiz Sing It Again that
are of melody, mirth and money that's heard on most.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Of these same CBS stations. Yes, Jan Murray is your
new host.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Be sure to hear the new Sing It Again with
Jan Murray this evening on CBS. Stay tuned now for
Bob Monroe's Caravan, which follows immediately on most of the
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