IB, Taxes, Love Lost & An “Elixir of Love”

Louisiana public schools have made major advances in reading and math, yet still lag behind other states in educational achievement.  Could the International Baccalaureate (IB) program service as the solution?

Seven Louisiana schools, including the French Quarter-bound Lycée Francais use the IB, but the internationally-recognized,  integrated educational system has a significantly small presence in Pelican State. Robert Kelty, the North American Head of Outreach and Development for IBO.org joins us to find out why the program may be the key to bettering our schools, and how his foundation is opening a pilot school to provide educational resources in Louisiana—to help acceptance of the IB program.  For the Louisiana born and LSU-educated US & Canada Director of the International Baccalaureate Organization, the issue is deeply personal.

Hy and Christopher then chat with Ned Canty, the director of “Elixir of Love” premiering on April 4 & 6 at the Mahalia Jackson Theatre in the Armstrong Park.  He tells us how a Chinese audience made him reinterpret the Donizetti comic opera into an “Old West” version, and how here in New Orleans, the Opera will take on a Cajun Cowboy theme.  Fiddler and Acadian Country star Amanda Shaw will be appearing in the opera and headlining a Fais Do Do afterwards.  A special date night package is available for $95.00 (for two) at The New Orleans Opera website.

We then mention that Mississippi is phasing out its income tax even faster than anyone expected. The MS legislature was supposed to approve income tax cuts only when revenue increases meet at 85% threshold, thus phasing out the tax over years.  A misprint in the final bill put it at .85%, though, which would mean that Mississippi loses its income tax by 2030–at the latest.  With Texas, Florida, and Tennessee also having no income tax, will Louisiana have phase it out next just to remain competitive?

Hy and Christopher also talk about the legacy of US Rep. Mia Love and the impacts of the Signal scandal.  It suffices to say that our hosts disagree.

Here are both Christopher’s columns in this coming edition of The Louisiana Weekly.

Love When It Counted
By Christopher Tidmore

The first Black woman Republican Congressman passed away last week at the age of 49.  Mia Love began her public life a neighborhood activist who got involved in politics for all of the right reasons, just as she stood up as a voice of integrity against Donald Trump’s hijacking of the moral center of the GOP.

The daughter of Haitian immigrants, she understood—and articulated— the critical importance of those who come to this country seeking a better life.  She took on the President when he denigrated immigrants— in particularly Haitians—who shared the same color of skin as she.  Mia Love fearlessly pointed out the racist underpinnings of some of Donald Trump‘s rhetoric, and she paid a huge political price for her integrity.

Love started out as a community activist in Saratoga Springs, Utah, in an effort to persuade the developer of her neighborhood to spray against flies.  Then, in 2003, she won a seat on the Saratoga Springs City Council. She was the first female Black elected official in Utah County, fixed a massive budget deficit, and went on to become Mayor of the town.  She ran twice for Congress, winning on her second bid in 2014.

When Trump won the presidency, Love very openly questioned his rhetoric and policies.  As a direct consequence of the hostility emanating from the Oval Office, she lost her reelection in 2018 to Salt Lake Democratic Mayor Ben McAdams by just 694 votes or razor thin margin of .258%—due to GOP defections.  Following her defeat, President Trump mo

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
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the politicians bouncing down the road, every bat'sition for no moment,

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corruption and dysfunction. It's gonna take, divide it avention.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Could the French pocalariat system be the answer to Louisiana's
educational woes? And an opera with a Cajun cowboy twist
is coming to New Orleans and it was influenced by
the Chinese. You heard that correctly. Also the Signal scandal,
the death of me A Love, and Mississippi getting rid
of the income tax.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
All this and more in this edition of The Founder's Show,
Oh bless all out there you are now listening to
the founders. So the voice of the founding Father's, your
founding fathers coming to you deep within the bowels of
those mystic and cryptic alligator swamps of the Big Easy,
that old Crescent City, New Orleans, Louisiana, And high up

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on top of that old liberty cypress tree draped in
Spanish moss, way out on the Eagles Branch is none other.
Then you'll spend Gary Babbay the Republic Chaplain Hi McHenry with.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Christopher Tidmore, your roving reporter, resident radical moderate, and associate
editor of the Louisiana Weekly newspaper at Louisiana Weekly dot net.
Joining us here in the Founder's Show is Robert Calty.
He is the director of government relations and outreach and
development for the International Baccalauiat program here in the United
States and Canada. And he is actually, while he's calling

(01:46):
us remotely, Hi, he is a native born Louisianian YAC,
a rinter and with film.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Where you and I both have cousins and family.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Exactly, and so he is a particular interest in our
francophonic state, our once francophonic state, about the international BAC program.
And Robert, welcome to the program. Welcome to the Founder Show.
We're very proud to have you here because the question
we're asking is is the BAC program one of the
answers to Louisiana's perpetual education woes And you got to

(02:15):
woes and you've got to talk about a very exciting program. Yeah,
it's been in the news a little bit lately. Here Robert.
I don't know if you're familiar, but there's a public
charter school called Lise Francis. It is, it's been in
the Uptown area. It's a French immersion school and it's
one of its points is it uses the French bac
Alariate program as it's graduate program. I mean it's graduation
program as your senior and it's moving to the old

(02:38):
McDonough fifteen Plessy School in the French Quarter, restoring a
school to the French Quarter that's actually going to be
teaching in French and ending up with a French bac program.
So it's been a lot in the news lately and
we wanted to basically ask you for those that don't know,
what is the International bACC Lariate program.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
Well, first off, gentlemen, Joplin Christopher, thank you for having
me here today. As you said, I'm a proud graduate
of Tririter High School. I graduated from Louisiana State University
before go Tigers, before going into Teacher America way back
in two thousand and one. And now I get to
represent the International Bacalaureate for the United States and Canada

(03:20):
in this role and in terms of who the International
Baccalaureate or the IV is as We're an international organization
and educational foundation that was started way back in nineteen
sixty eight, and our presidence in the United States started
in nineteen seventy one. And we're in six thousand schools

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around the world in one hundred and sixty countries, with
around twenty five hundred programs here in the United States.
Interestingly enough, of the United States is the ivy's largest
footprint for schools.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Really considering the IB isssociated obviously it was based on
a French exam that you did in your senior year
in the studies, the fact that the United States is
bigger than what it is given in France, says something
about it.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
Yeah, it certainly does. And when most people think of
the IB right, they think of these elite, highly decorated
schools around the world, and that is certainly true. But
the IV in the United States is a very unique story.
In the US, ninety percent of the IB schools are
actually public schools. Ten percent are private in the US

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WO and of that ninety percent, a great deal even
qualify for federal funding because they're serving students and poverty.
So the IV in the US is really leveraged by
a lot of principles and superintendents to bring a world
class education to all of their students.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
You know, my twin sister teaches French in New Iberia,
that area not too far from Thereter she's in the
CODA Fail program and she loves the program. I don't know,
I guess she knows about this. Can you describe a
little bit more about what what is?

Speaker 2 (05:05):
What is the IV?

Speaker 3 (05:06):
What does it actually do for that?

Speaker 2 (05:07):
It's not just French, it's it's actually a curriculum. Explain
it if you would.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
Yeah, correct. You know, when you think about the IV,
there's really two components that makes us unique and distinct.
First is an inquiry based approach, and what I mean
by that is IV schools embrace a hands on approach
to teaching and learning, and we foster curiosity, critical thinking,
and problem solving skills in our students. And this approach

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encourages students to ask questions, explore different perspectives, learn different languages,
in this case English and French, and actively engage in
their own learning process. And that aligns with many of
the principles and objectives set forth by state and local
education agencies, including Louisiana and all striving for these rigorous

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bases of learning where students are prepared for career inter college.
Second component that makes the IV so sought after by
students and families is college preparation. At the heart of
the IV's mission is to prepare our students for successful
transitions into higher ed careers and or both. And we

(06:16):
firmly believe that academic achievement should be measured not only
by grades, but a student's ability to think critically, to
ask meaningful questions, and see themselves as leaders to make
a positive difference in.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
The dive acts where they can learn on their own,
they don't need. Well, let's let's get let's get yeah, Franklin,
let's let's get into that.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Robert Calty of the International bACC Laureate Program Foundation is
joining Hike McKenny Christopher Tidmore in the found of show
in WR and O and A W S L A.
And the essential question we have is you know first,
you know the way I was taught? Tell me if
this is an accurate description, because it may not be.
I remember in high school reading about the Bach program

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in France, and it was always told it was a
curriculum that prepared you for a test that you took
at the end of your senior year. Is that what
you guys are doing, and how is it different what
your guys are doing. How does it work in the
simplest terms possible.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
Well, a great way to think about it is, you
know the International Bacalauiate diploma program. Right for students who
are achieving that significant achievement, they are obtaining an internationally
recognized credential by sitting for exams that are graded outside
of their country. And so that's why universities value an

(07:33):
ib education so much, because you had that external validation
that students are prepared for the rigors of college, and
that can align with either a national system like France
where they have or French bacalaureate, or that can align
for a state in the US where they have state
graduation requirements. So as a student in the US would

(07:55):
be obtaining their state graduation diploma and then in addition
to that, receiving this internationally recognized credential that's so valued
by universities here in the US and around the world.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
So this is what the essence of the question Robert Coulty,
how does this help Louisiana improve its Moribun test scores?
Or more precisely, it's the number of kids who go
to college, because right now we have twenty five percent
of the Louisiana population thereabouts, give or take a percentage
each year that go to college that is roughly ten

(08:26):
to fifteen points lower than many other states in the country.
And we have a comparably small group of schools that
are offering Baccalariot programs. We mentioned the Lisa Francis, the
International High School. It's a very small group. But every
Louisiana public school or charter school is supposed to have
a high school exit exam on top of the leap test,

(08:48):
so we already do an exit exam. How would it
be better if Louisiana a mass adopted an international baccalariat program,
or if conversely, charter schools expanded. You're about to talk
about one a new one with this box program. How
would we improve our outcomes and more importantly, the education
of our children and over what we're doing now?

Speaker 4 (09:10):
Just first of all, Christopher, I really really appreciate that question,
and especially as someone who's very very proud Louisianian and
who you know whose family is still in the state.
I'd say, first of all, I want to celebrate what
the state has accomplished. Louisiana is the only state, the
only state in the United States that improve their scores
on the National Assessment of Education Progress or Need for

(09:33):
both reading and math. And that's a significant feat. And
I think that's because of the leadership in the state
that really wants to make Louisiana this beacon of educational excellence.
And how the IV can be leveraged in achieving those
goals is this, This is the highest bar that you

(09:55):
can set when students get the IV diploma. That is
literally the bar you can achieve in high school. And
so to say this is now a part of Louisiana's
School Accountability law and encouraging schools and districts to leverage
these advanced programs statewide and naming the IB as one

(10:15):
of these allmart programs is significant because it's really sending
a signal of what the vision for the state is.
And so we actually created a pilot specifically for Louisiana
this year, and we didn't it's the first of its
kind it's an early access program specifically for the state,

(10:38):
and it allows select high schools to teach IVY courses
before becoming a full IV school. And the pilot aims
to broaden IV opportunities in the state specifically because of
the college and career ready to goals that were set
last year in the School Accountability Plan. And what that

(10:59):
means is instead of undergoing a one to two year
certification process to become an IV school for the first time,
we've set a different route of training and supports so
schools could actually be teaching IVY courses as early as
August of next year. It's fantastic while they're becoming a
full IB school. I've never done this before. Yeah, and

(11:21):
we did it because we saw what Louisiana was trying
to do and potentially this could create a process nationwide,
but we wanted to start with Louisiana, keep it small,
make sure the proper supports there for the schools that
want to leverage those.

Speaker 5 (11:37):
Are you familiar, Robert with this program that has been
promoted and it has to do with math, technology, science, etc.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
Stem STEM?

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, And that's actually an interesting question. How do STEM
programs science, technology, engineering? How do they fit in with
BOCK programs because STEM is kind of the buzzwords at
very well.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
Done really in two different ways. So when you look
at the International Reculory at the IV, we have four
programs overall. We have our Primary Years program, which focuses
on elementary school. We have our Middle Years program, which
focuses on middle school. In Louisiana, you can see these
schools in Hammond. Hammond is the only school district in

(12:21):
the state that has an IB continuum, and that means
they're starting from elementary school all the way to the
high school level. And when you look at our advanced
programs at the high school level, we have two. You
had the one that most people know, which is the
IV Diploma program, and in that case, it's a very
comprehensive rogers education that includes the sciences and includes STEM.

(12:45):
But our second program, which is our fastest growing program,
is our Career Related program. This program was recently covered
in The New York Times at a school entitled the
Bronx Early College Academy, a great charter school in New
York City. And our Career Related program blends academic grigor
with career oriented education. And so what that means if

(13:07):
our students want to study STEM medicine, advanced manufacturing, performing arts, engineering,
or construction, our CP or our career related program can
enhance those traditional career and technical education tracks or these
college bound tracks that so many states are trying to nurture.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
So that is a very articulate answer, which basically boils
down to you're offering these incredible resources and created a
polits in Louisiana for a lot of school districts. But
let's face it, Hav's the only one who's taken it up.
There are some charters in New Orleans that have done it,
there are a few individual school districts, but for the
most part it's been something that our school districts have

(13:46):
been shall we say, hesitant or lethargic or downright lazy
from taking in. So what can we as the general
public do to encourage an educational regime that may makes
our kids internationally competitive and therefore gives them better college
education opportunities.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
Yeah, and where you know I value that question so
much is honoring the first ID school in the state,
which was at LSU's Lab School. Oh yeah, back back
in two thousand and one. They were the first one
to offer the id and to your point, Now, you
know we're in tim programs, but it's really in that
triangle of Batnerge, New Orleans and Handon and as a

(14:29):
native of Louisiana, and you know, I feel compelled to
help bring this level of rigor outside of that triangle.
Robert Cross the state.

Speaker 5 (14:41):
I have a question for you and Christopher and a
whole audience and a challenge. There is an exit exam
that was given around the turneth century, around nineteen hundred
in the state of Kansas and other states also, But
this one's in a museum. I think the other one
is in Oklahoma and it's in the National Life Library
or the State's Library or something like that.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
But they've been preserved. You can go to the internet.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
You can look it up for that period and it's
for an eighth grade exit exam? Can you pass this
exam to graduate from the eighth grade? And I'll never
forget when I was a little kid, I would hear
older people who put them their time before the turn
of the century, so they knew this well, and they
would say things like how important it was and the

(15:26):
value of what they would say in eighth grade education
I'm thinking, my goodness, they think that was big man,
I'm gonna go to high school. That's not big little.
Did I know what I was saying, because when I
took that exam, I don't think anybody can pass it.
I mean people with doctorates can't pass it. It is
the hardest thing you'll ever look at. And my big
question is is this is a question what did they
do to educate the kids so well that far back.

(15:48):
And by the way, if you had an eighth grade
education back then, you were educated past the level of
a PhD. It's I wouldn't go I would you certainly
a look at it.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
I get out.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
I know that I bet you nobody can pass.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
So the test had questions about Latin, about advanced algebra.
It was it is a.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Very once all academic does not just math literature.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
No, I understand my pointed the whole highest point.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
There were like eight different categories.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
And this is this is an interesting point in the
nineteenth century. By the eighth grade, if you graduated from
the eighth grade, you had a better curriculous set that
you had to report to than most high school students
graduating from high school. Due today, college students well, and
so many college students can't even pass the test. How
does the Bach program actually bring up our educational standards

(16:38):
to what apparently was we had at least in some
ways in the nineteenth century.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Well mean, no, no, no, this, I want to finish
my question and this is it. What could we do?

Speaker 5 (16:48):
And maybe you all are thinking about it to study
and learn what they did in education that far back?
Why not bring that back? It worked so well, then
why wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
It work again?

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Work so well for some?

Speaker 3 (16:58):
But go ahead, it worked for anybody who for the
program with Yeah, and.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
I love both of those questions. So you know, I'm
gonna go to Christopher's question first and then I'll go
to your question, High, and to go back to how
do we, you know, get outside of that triangle? I think,
first of all, it's just brand awareness, like knowing what
the IV is and the opportunities that it opens up
for kids. And that's why we are organizing outreach events

(17:24):
across the state outside of the triangle, inside the triangle
to but outside the triangle, to make sure that people
know what opportunities this can give students. And High to
your question around examinations, you know, in education, we all
know that the assessment is the tail that wacks the
dog right and where the IB has been so celebrated

(17:46):
for so many decades by either peer reviewed research or
just anecdotally hearing from IB alums who say that they
were absolutely prepared for college when they got there. Our
assessment system is known to be one of the most
rigorous and externally validated in the world. I mean, and

(18:07):
that's why we're accepted by so many countries. And that's
why with that IV diploma, you can go to LSU Tulane,
you can go out of state, you can go to
Trinity College Dublin like I did recently.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
And Robert Galty, we have to end it there. I apologize.
But if somebody wanted to find out more about how
to get their school or their school district, or just
information about the International Baccalaureat program your foundation, how would
they do it.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
You can go to IBO dot org and if they
wanted to learn specifically about the pilot, they would just
need to google IBO dot org Louisiana Pilot Program and
it would take them to the right resources and how
to get involved and learn more.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
And Robert Hearty, thank you for joining us. On the program.
I know of people who have said that they move
their how they will literally move their houses, move their
residence closer to a school with a baccalaureate program because
they think it'll give their kids a better education. There's
literally for those to start where we to end, where
we started. The Lyse Francis moving to the French Quarter

(19:12):
for the first time I've heard of family is willing
to move there, not just for the French education, but
the IB program that they offer, and that's something to
be said to actually repopulate neighborhoods. So that's a wonderful thing.
Roy Calte, thank you so much for joining Himikenry, Christopher
Tidmore here in the Founder show.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Thank you, Robert god blessing, good educating.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
It's an honor to be here. Gentlemen, thank you for
having me on.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Thank you much. And folks, when we come back for
the break, we're going to turn our attention a little
bit to opera. How did the Chinese let Americans reinterpret
a Italian opera in a cowboy Cajun Old West sense.
It seems confusing to hear, but believe it or not,
it's a facinating story. And we're going to be talking
with with the director of Elixir of Love coming up

(19:51):
on April fourth and six at the Mahela Jackson Theater,
and later in the show, We're gonna turn a little
bit to looking back on mea love It took on
a signal scandal, the fact that Mississippi no longer has
an income tax, all that more in this edition of
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Speaker 2 (22:45):
With Christopher Tidmore and we are joined by one of
the gurus of American opera and that is not an exaggeration,
and we're proud to be hosting him these weeks in
New Orleans right now. Ned Kanty is the director of
A Lie of Love that will be at the May
Jackson Theater on April fourth at seven thirty pm. That's
a Friday. In April sixth at two thirty pm, that's

(23:07):
a Sunday, except it's not your conventional Italian opera. And
I've been fascinated because Ned you even encountered this. When
people hear the words opera, they're like, oh god, old
old old people screaming in Italian for geriatrix. It's not
something you have made an opera truly fun. You have

(23:29):
brought Donzetti's Elixir of Love, the classic comic opera, not
only into an Old West setting, but to a Cajun
cowboy setting that it's going to have Amanda Shaw on
stage on Friday. You're doing something different, and if I
understand the story correctly, you reinterpreted your favorite opera, Donzetti's
Alixir of Love into an Old West setting because of
the Mandarin Chinese. Can you tell us a little bit

(23:51):
about that story, but it.

Speaker 7 (23:54):
Was I'm not sure if they actually spoke Mandarin, but
the you know the I first started thinking about this
approach to this opera, which, you know, the when you
think about a great story and great love story, whether
it's a comedy, a tragedy, or whatever, a story like
Romeo and Juliet can not only be done in its
original form, it can also become West Side story. The

(24:14):
story remains the same because love remains the same and
human beings remain the same. And the very first time
that I directed this opera, it was in the year
two thousand. It was in Shanghai, China, and I was
there for a summer program working with students at the
Shanghai Conservatory, and I was working through a translator, which

(24:35):
was very strange, very weird, and it was really an
object lesson in how much of what I consider to
be great comedy. And you know, I grew up watching
you know, not just Three's Company, which is a hugely
underrated show, but the reruns of I Love Lucy and
f Troop and the Dick Van Dyke Show.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
But physical and physical comedy as well as witty comedy.
You know, it's.

Speaker 7 (24:56):
Absolutely as well as The Mother Show, Yeah, mumpetchor Bugs Money,
which are inspired by these, you know, these great legends
of comedy. What I realized working in China for the
first time was that they actually had an entirely different
history of comedy that was very different than ours. And
it made me really examine the piece. So the big

(25:18):
example was that the soldier in the piece, Coaclaude, who
is kind of an arrogant guy. As the libretto says,
he's all hat and no cattle. You know, he just
he thinks, he thinks any woman he meets is just
going to fall red in love with them, and some
of them do, but not all of them. Not a
dina Ar heroine and when I was working with the
young singer who was playing this character in China, I

(25:39):
kept saying, well, you know, he's kind of a fool
or a buffoon, and the translator kept getting hung up
and he was getting more and more confused, and he finally.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
Said, no, no, he's a soldier. He's brave, he's strong.

Speaker 7 (25:52):
Like all of these qualities and traits that are you know,
they didn't have f Troop, they didn't have Gomer Pyle
or you know, any of these or Beatle Bailey or
any of these comic things that we have where soldiers
can be foolish or fallible. So it just sort of
sent me on a journey thinking about the piece. So

(26:12):
with that character and also blu Kamada, who is the
he's the medicine you know, medicine show salesman, the quack doctor.
Who is you know, selling a remedy that cures everything,
you know, from Rickett's The Scrofula to you know, a
gentleman's problems, to wrinkles, to liver disease, right, you name it,

(26:34):
this thing will cure it. Yes, And you know this
was written in Italy in the nineteenth century and those
kind of people were very common there, but they're very
common today. They were very common in the Old West,
and on.

Speaker 5 (26:50):
This thing common well, but particularly numerical cultures in the
nation need canny.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Of course, he's the director. Ned Kenny's joining is he's
the director of Elixir Love at the Hey Jackson Theare
in April fourth and sixth. And you pointed out that
the Medicine show that went through the Old West and
went through here in Louisiana. We've got so many examples
of that, a Light a Call being one of the
most famous. We're actually the precursors to vaudeville and what
we think about as musical theater in the United States

(27:17):
on a popular basis that they kind of were the
roots of all of this. And you integrate that into
your production of Elixir of Love when you set it
in this you place it in Old West town. We
have co opted your Old West setting, and we're saying
it's somewhere in western Louisiana where there's plenty of cattle
and a whole bunch of stuff. But basically this is
an Old West setting sometime in the Old West, where

(27:39):
the Elixir of Love is a snake oil. It's not
really an elixir. It's just a stake.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
Remember Sarah's song Jip sees tramps and thieves. That's what
they cause where we go in and says they throw
their money down. I mean that they're hustling for this
Charlotte Tess show.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
So Ned Canty tell us about the show at the
Mahey Jackson Theater. So if somebody is hesitant and saying
and listen to this audience and saying, you know, I
don't go to the opera, I don't want to get
all jessed up. I don't want to do this. Hear
a lot of people, you know, screeching at me. That's
not what they will see if they come to the
stage on April fourth or April six. Tell us what

(28:18):
they'll see.

Speaker 7 (28:19):
They will see a fabulous romantic comedy that could be
on Netflix right now or at your local cinema right now.
It is a love story, a comic love story with
meet cutes, with you know, those moments that are the
equivalent of Billy Crystal realizing he really wants to be
with Meg Ryan and running through you know, through the

(28:41):
streets on New Year's Eve. There is a moment that
is so close to Julia Roberts saying, she's just a
girl standing in front of a boy asking him to
love her.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
It is so close to.

Speaker 7 (28:52):
That you would almost think that they stole it from
this opera, but of course it's just love.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
It's there a scene where they're at a restaurant.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
No none.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
The older lady says, I'll take what shegar got.

Speaker 7 (29:07):
I will say, I will say, he says. You know
Jill Kamar when he's.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
Selling his snake oil.

Speaker 7 (29:11):
He says, a man of seventy once he tried this elixir,
went on to sire eleven children.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
So I'm buying. I'll buy it, it says.

Speaker 7 (29:21):
It's a matter of So he isn't flying a lot
of the same thing.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
So Ned Canty, he's the director of Alexur of Love
at the Meye Jackson Theater April fourth and six, is
joining us talking about this fantastic production. But here's the
most fantastic thing that I think about it, and to
enter this whole thing that two people can actually go
to the show for ninety five dollars together and then
after the show go to a fantastic Fato doo with
an Elixir of Love cocktail and the musical singings of

(29:47):
Amanda Shaw. Now you're an international star, you're you're one
of the leading directors of opera all across the country,
and this is a return visit. You did Barbara Civilla
and us for us here in New Orleans. But we
got a local celebrity who's doing literally does Cajun cowboy
kind of things, not only after the show, but maybe
a little bit in the show. You've got kind of
the setting. How does this fatodoe kind of party setting

(30:09):
that we're having on April fourth at the Mahia Jackson
Theater fit into the production you're doing. It fits in perfectly.

Speaker 7 (30:15):
I mean, this is why my wife has taken the
train down from Memphis to be here for opening night.
She's seen my production of this opera in multiple cities,
so but she's coming down for the experience of seeing
it here in New Orleans, of having things like that
f Dodo that are just a part of the overall experience.
Not that she needs that much of an excuse to
come to New Orleans, because we both love the city,

(30:37):
but it is it's one of those celebrations because the
opera really is a celebration and it represents a terrific
opportunity for anybody who's just curious. You know what I
tell people who have never been to an opera, and
I didn't get involved in opera until very late in
my life, I tell them try it out because you
probably think you don't like it, not because of your

(30:58):
direct experience, but because you saw in some Bond movie
that only super villains like opera, or you saw in
a commercial that you know opera is filled with boring
people in boring clothes. Well, wouldn't you rather instead of
being lied to by the media about what opera is,
wouldn't you rather come and check it out?

Speaker 3 (31:17):
See one or two?

Speaker 7 (31:18):
And then if you want to tell people you want
to do something else with your life, that's totally fine,
But really you owe it to yourself.

Speaker 5 (31:27):
Loved opera and he named his famous saloon after the
Jersey Lily all right, a famous operetta.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
What I was trying to say when we came into
is in this opera, part of it is you don't
have to dress up for it. In fact, you're encouraged
to come in cowboy boots, jeans, in western garb because
it's an Old West setting and we're actually having a
costume contest in April fourth for a Elixir of Love
for who's the best coutuur cowboy that is around. So
this Ned Canty, director of a Elixir of Love. This

(31:55):
is an incredible opportunity for people. We're even doing a
brunch on Sunday for a barbecue outdoor brunch as part
of the opera, done by celebrity chef Byron Bradley. All
of this is happening April fourth and six at the
Maya Jackson Theater. And the thing I'm very excited about
is that it's a homecoming for a New Orleans girl

(32:15):
that made it big in Philadelphia and Chicago and across
the world. Anoka grad who's actually playing the lead in
the show, Adina, can you talk about Lindsay Reynolds.

Speaker 7 (32:25):
So, Lindsey is fabulous, and you know I've been working
you know, she actually went to Curtis in Philadelphia, which
is where I lived before I lived in Memphis. I
worked a lot there with a did a lot of
shows there with their students. They turn out some of
the best singers in the country and in the world
on a yearly basis, and Lindsey is a perfect example
of that. She has just a beautiful voice, a voice

(32:48):
that makes your toes curl with how beautiful it is.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
But she's also very funny.

Speaker 7 (32:53):
She gets comedy, which you know sometimes with a younger singer,
you're never sure if they understand the classics. You're never
sure if they've seen some of these cultural comic touchstones
that most folks in an opera audience would know. But
she is just very savvy. She's a very intuitive actress.
She has got one of the most expressive faces. There's
a look that she gives Billcaude when he walks into

(33:15):
town and immediately proposes to her. There is a look
that she gives him that would kurdel Milk. That doesn't
scare him off because we.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Need to have a plot for an opera.

Speaker 7 (33:24):
But it's wonderful. I mean, she really is, as we say,
the whole package net.

Speaker 5 (33:30):
This is really exciting because we've got a governor who
had a cousin relative whatever this is Marcel b Invenues.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
I know this through her.

Speaker 5 (33:40):
I actually stayed in Uncle Cowboys room in Saint Martinville,
and so I've always remembered old Uncle Cowboy, and our
governor has to know who he is and I also
rode the range, if you will, rode the swamp down
here in Louisiana, Saint Benard Parish, herding up Kyle's with
a Cajun Kyle down there. So I'm very familiar with

(34:02):
the whole Cajun cowboy scene.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yeah. One of the things that I got to give
you at ned Canny and this is someth of Lylah Palmer,
the general artistic corrector of the operas brand. She's trying
to reclaim the fact that there were cowboys in Louisiana.
It wasn't a small little thing. There's huge prairies and
all this. And so we're sort of leaning into that
cowboy theme here with the set that was built here
in New Orleans at the actually in Jefferson Parish at

(34:24):
the Hawkins scene Studio. The opera has its own scene shop.

Speaker 5 (34:27):
And we know all about Jim Bowie from opelousis a
Cajun boy, if you will, fought at the Alamo.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
You know how he made most of his money.

Speaker 5 (34:34):
He was a very successful businessman. Cows he bought and
soul herds of cows.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Well, we're not going to look this gift horse in
the mouth that we have here for Alixir of Love.
It's at the Mehey Jackson Theater April fourth and sixth.
On April fourth, Amanda Shaw, the Cajun cow the Cajun
Fiddler Cajun Cowboy Fiddler is going to be performing a
fatodo afterwards. All included in a price ninety five dollars
for two of the ascent ticket. You can find out

(35:00):
more information at New Orleans Opera dot org. That's New
Orleans Opera dot org. And Ned Canty, the director, the
visionary who put an Italian opera in an Old West
setting setting around a fatodo in New Orleans. We want
to thank you for your vision, thank you for coming
down here and directing this opera and leave us a
final thought for the audience, if you would, But.

Speaker 5 (35:20):
Also one last saying, one last thing. When you think
that opera's introduction to America was New Orleans and now
we got a Cajun again tied into New Orleans opera,
this is very exciting.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
It is and it you know it all.

Speaker 7 (35:35):
New Orleans is one of the most distinctive and unique
American cities, is one of the most unique cities of
the world. So bringing this kind of spaghetti Western approach.
You know, the Italian needs Westerly here.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
I wish to God Net I'd thought about that for
the ad campaign the Spaghetti Western, because that would have
been so perfect.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
I wish maybe Clint Eastwood to come and do an appearance.

Speaker 7 (35:57):
And the Italians, the Italians love Chinese love cowboy movies
more than we do.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
I mean, they give us some of our best. They're
hot all around. Cowboy movies are hot all around the world.
People love them.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Everybody. Everybody loves a Western, everybody loves a love story,
and everybody should love the opportunity to go see a
fantastic opera, Donzetti's Elixir of Love done in an Old
West Cowboy Cajun setting with a Fato doo on April
fourth and a barbecue boufet lunch at April sixth. These
are opportunities offered you by the New Orleans Opera. Just

(36:26):
go to our website New Orleans Opera dot org find
out more about it and need Kenny, thank you so
much for joining us here in the Founder show. You
were wonderful. We appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
Always glad to be here.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
All right, thank you. I got a couple of national
things but I don't know if you noticed this. Mississippi
is getting rid of its income tax. But they did it.
They did it in a way that nobody expected, including
the people who passed the bill. So their whole idea
was like they would phase that down the income tax
by doing if they got eighty five percent increase in revenue,

(36:56):
they cut it each time, except somebody, as they printed
the bill for final passage, instead of putting eighty five
percent in the bill puts point eight five percent. That
means if the missis if the government of Mississippi grows
smaower than the rate of inflation, they get rid of
the income tax by twenty thirty And so, I mean

(37:17):
it was so much, it was so bad it could
throw it in cent a fiscal crisis. There wonders if
the governor at Tate Reeves was actually going to sign it.
He did, but there's no question as to whether it's
going to go back. What it means though, from our standpoint,
is Louisiana is surrounded by Mississippi with new income tax,
soon Texas with new income tax, Tennessee with new income tax,
Florida with no income tax, and frankly that twitching with US.

(37:40):
It puts US in a very difficult fiscal situation to
where there's going to have to be you know, we're
cutting income tax down three point five percent, but I know.

Speaker 5 (37:50):
Yes, what is a huge lithian fine which we talked
about in this program a couple of months ago. It's
called a Smackover region. It goes all the way from
the southern part of Texas on the on the Mexican border,
probably in New Mexico, and then swings around a big
arc past Dallas, all of half over half of north
of Louisiana, the northern part of the state UH a

(38:14):
small part of Arkansas, about maybe one fourth of the
state of Arkansas, and then swings into Mississippi, Alabama, and
down to Apalachical and Panama City, Florida.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
And these are heavy, these are heavy, the largest.

Speaker 5 (38:26):
Yeah, this is not just lithium, it's a it's a mix,
it's a soup of all kinds of rare minerals in
a brine.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
And the levels are anywhere from two thousand, which is very shallow.
Well in wards. They don't have to strip mine. They
just put a hole in the ground.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
And this is what we need, This is what we need.
To actually build circuits basically microchips.

Speaker 5 (38:46):
And supply America with enough enough lithium for the next
fifty years.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
Now, that's one fine.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
That's important because that comes. This is in Louisiana, Arkansas,
and Mississippi. It's always Alabama, Alabama, Florida. It's always easier
to build these plants. Right next to the finding that
comes in the same week as you met, have heard
six thousand jobs for a new steel plant that is
out in batt Uge. In fact, the person who didn't
get enough credit for that was Public Service Commissioner Eric's Kametta.

(39:14):
They made this announcement for the Oval office with the
governor and the president, but it was this Palice was there,
as Mike Johnson was there, but it was Eric Kumetta, who,
if Public Service commission represents the same district as the
size of a congressional district, who really championed this, who
pushed this for years, and he deserves a little bit
of credit. So we got some economic opportunities and all

(39:34):
this is happening in a context I have to bring
in some we don't have a lot of time. I
will say that someone who I had great admiration for
me I love. The former congressman from Utah passed away
of a geoblas stone at age forty nine, very young,
but she was the daughter of Haitian immigrants. She herself
was somebody who figured who was a very thoughtful conservative.

(39:55):
But at the same time it was a critic of
Donald Trump's He said, you know, I'm worried about his manner.
Not only he treats immigrants like me, but some of
the attitudes of this and the callousness.

Speaker 5 (40:04):
And he did not treat her badly as an immigrant. Oh, yes,
as a legal immigrant.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
It's fine.

Speaker 5 (40:10):
Donald Trump loves illegal His wife is a legal emirates.
He treated he treated his first wife as a legal emirate.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Please, the words were for me, you didn't show me
enough love. You didn't show me enough love. He was
gloating when she lost as a Republican. But I what
made me think about that? That was weak as that
happened as and I have to ask you this. You
have a top secret clearance, you're an intelligence operative in Afghanistan,
and you know the lengths at which military communications are

(40:35):
kept secure, and that what you can't do on your
cell phones, this signal situation. I got to tell you
maybe this is Trump's secret plan to fix the economy,
to have Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush roll
in their graves so fast out of a sense of
complete bewildergress. What happened that they've got a centriple force.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
Because I'm glad you pointed out that I have a
top secret clearance.

Speaker 5 (40:55):
That's a h Yes. I've been in many skiffs. I
know a lot about how car sified material is handled,
and that is one of the most bogus absurd things.
There was nothing classified in that conversation, absolutely nothing, And
the big question is how did we get it?

Speaker 3 (41:09):
No, there was nothing classic it was.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
It was the targeting signals before the attack press of youth,
He's and Yemen. That is classified military targeting information.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
It happened, Well, it happened while they were doing it.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
No, it happened. It happened. Happened you know that.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
No.

Speaker 5 (41:27):
No, listen, many experts have looked at this and they're
all commenting on what a farcest thing is. They're just
the Democrats found something to scream and hollow. Why didn't
they scream like this about Biden's top secret stuff and
his garage? Why didn't they scream and holler about Hillary
Clinton's server, unsecured server dealing with highly classified material with Obama?

(41:49):
He was in and you for for several years.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
But he was the outcry. Where was this screaming? You
heard thing at the mouth. They didn't say anything, but
they have this one little blip that wasn't nothing. Yes, Christopher,
you're you're blowing this thing up way beyond what it is.
I'm I'm the expert. You're not remember that.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
No, I'm asking if this if you had done if
you had done this in the military, what would what
would have the military punishment if you had put classified
material over a messaging app? What would the what would
the uniform code? Jim J. Justice done to you? Answer
me that.

Speaker 5 (42:20):
They'd have studied that app and they would have realized
this has been going on too long. That it was
in the Biden administration. Everybody got a downloaded on their
phones when they came in, all the all the you know,
bureaucrats whatever who were taking over from the Biden administration.
The Biden administration used it for four years. There's no
telling what went on there.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
I was incredibly cronical. You remember this of Hillary Clinton
those emails, I criticized, I'm so glad you did. That
was real.

Speaker 5 (42:44):
That was a real dangerous saying. But this was not dangerous.
This was decredibly danger absolutely wrong.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
It was nothing.

Speaker 5 (42:49):
Everything that they talked about was not class If you
read the Goldberg, Yes it was not classified. Christopher, you
know what classified material is?

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (42:59):
How does it get classified?

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Targeting solutions are classified?

Speaker 3 (43:01):
Not that?

Speaker 5 (43:02):
Not necessarily? Not You're wrong, you see you don't know
what you're saying. Not, yes, not necessarily. In fact, the
targets knew they were targets from way back.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
They already knew they were targets. That's why one reason
it's not classified.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Yeah, they don't usually know the time, place, and date.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
They knew it was coming. See, Yeah, they knew that.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Not at five thirty seven PM or whatever the heck
it was.

Speaker 5 (43:22):
Come on, you know what, even from the effect a thing,
the operation went off perfectly.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
Okay. I was if this was such a terrible leak,
why didn't it undermine the operation? It didn't. It didn't
have one effect when.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
It got Lucky High.

Speaker 5 (43:35):
No, because it wasn't enough there for him to use.
Not only that, what it means is that.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
One of the people.

Speaker 5 (43:41):
That means one of the one of the that that
Atlantic Monthly or whatever uh was was would have been
a you know, assisting the terrorists. He'd have been an
accomplished if he had called it, hey, terrorists, I know
where they're going to hit you.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
He did, Jeffrey Goldberg didn't release it.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
I'm just saying if he did that, then he would
in fact what he the right thing, the honorable thing
is to contact them immediately and say this is a mistake.
You need to take me off this text. He did.
That was the honorable thing to do. But really, oh yes,
that was the honorable thing.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
That was the honorable thing to do. When he was
added by.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
Who knows, we don't who actually.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
We do, the President admitted it was Mike Waltz and was.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
Under his command. It was under his way.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
No, no, no, Mike Waltz publicly admitted he accidentally added
Jeffrey Goldberg. He this is not up for debate. He
actually did it. And members of Congress are saying, well,
he made a mistake. If this this same kind of mistake. Rightfully,
Donald Trump accused Hillary Clinton that willingness and that you
should go to prison, and you know what.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
He and Obama too, but the crimes were a thousand
times more than many.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Can you not? Can you ever step back and say, yes,
Donald Trump should live up to the same standards he applied.

Speaker 5 (44:50):
Yes he should. And you know what, Christopher, this was
a blip. This is a minor event as far as
Class five materials go. And you're not willing to see that.
But that's what it was. It's not okay whatever.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
All right, on that note, folks, we got to take
a quick commercial break. We'll be back after these important
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Speaker 5 (46:50):
We're back and this Chappinhei McHenry on The Founder's Show.
And it's not time for us to go into our
chaplain Bob bab patriotic moment. We just took a brief
moment to remind you of the biblical foundations of our country,
our Judeo Christian jurisprudence. And because we had a show
today a lot dealing with education, I'm going to tell
you about Harvard University. And this is interesting. This comes

(47:13):
from the rules and precepts at Harvard University sixteen forty two,
from the very beginning of the school that they held
to for a couple hundred years afterwards. And I can't
read the whole thing, but I'm gonna read parts of
it to you. First of all, they had to be
able to speak Latin and Greek to end of the
school for the study of Holy writ of Scripture, the Bible.

(47:34):
Then they went on to say, let every student be
plainly instructed and earnestly pressed to consider well, the main
end of his life and studies is to know God
and Jesus Christ, which is eternal life John seventeen three.
And therefore to lay Christ in the bottom is the
only foundation of all sound knowledge and learning and seeing.
The Lord only giveth wisdom. Let everyone seriously set himself

(47:58):
in prayer secret to seek it the wisdom of God
Proverbs two three. Let everyone exercise himself in the reading
of holy scriptures twice a day, and to keep themselves
clean and chaste and proper in their behavior.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
That the interests of.

Speaker 5 (48:19):
The Word giveth light, so that we'll give light and
understanding to us at Psalm nineteen one thirty. So, folks,
you can clearly see that there's a lot more to it.

Speaker 3 (48:30):
I can't.

Speaker 5 (48:31):
I don't have time to go into it all. But
you can see how intense our founding, the founders of
this country were in keeping God and everything, and especially
in education. In fact, all the founders, the signers of
the decoration and upend, and say, oh, just about all
of them. In like Benjamin Franklin in the Cornerstone, he
put that the knowledge of Jesus Christ as the foundation
of all wisdom and learning. George Washington said something similar.

(48:55):
This is just repeated over and over again by our
founding fathers. Clearly they wanted to keep God in government
and especially God in education. Well, folks, right here talks
about in this quote from Harvard, it says, seeing the
Lord only, that he is the one that gives eternal life, folks,
meaning the Lord Jesus Christ. Folks, you could be the

(49:16):
greatest biblical patriot that ever lived. But if you died
and went to hell, what good would it be. You
need to have Jesus in you. And now we're going
to find out how you can do that as we
go into our chaplain by by a gospel moment again,
just take a brief moment to show you how you
can know that. You know that, you know you are
a God's child. You were born again, you are saved.
Born again means that your dead and dine spirit has
become alive. The Scripture says, for God's soul love the world.

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That's you, that's everybody, that whosoever that's you again, and
everybody that whosoever believeth in him.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
That's right, you got to believe in him. But oh wait,
what do you believe? Well? The Bible tells what you
have to believe. The Bible says the gospel is.

Speaker 5 (49:52):
The power of God into salvation, and it tells us
what the gospel is, that Jesus died for all of
our sins according to the scripture, was buried and rose
to the dead according to scripture. That's first gethings is
fifteen folks, when he says, believe in him, you have
to believe that he died for all of your sins.
I'm telling you, from the day you're born in the
day you die, you tie us the greatest sins. He
died from all and the Bible says his blood washed
them all the way. Okay, that was the first thing.

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Then the next thing, big move after that was he
rose to the dead. After you took care of your sin,
probably took care of your death problem. When he rose
to the dead, he won for you his precious free
gift of resurrection, everlasting life. How do you get all
this well, Jesus kept saying, repent and believe, Repent and believe.
What does that word repentance mean? It means believe you

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can't save yourself, your hopeless and help us with without
God destined to a burning hell, when you come to
that point where youu relize this absolutely nothing good you
have to offer God. At that moment you're free, then
with all of your heart. Is not part of your
heart is trust in what you can do, but all
of your heart is trusting in Jesus and what he did,
what he will do, and what he is doing, saving

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your soul from hell and guarantee in your everlasting life.
So back to John three point sixteen, that who's server
believing in him, now you know what to believe in.
That who's sever believing him shall not perish, not go
to hell, but have ever lasting life. If you've never
done this before, please don't wait until it's too late.
Like the old country preacher said, and like the Word
of God said, says now today is a day of salvation.

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If you've never done this before, please do it now.
Don't put it off. You may not get tomorrow. I've
seen many of my friends drop dead. I'm seventy four
years old, unexpectedly, but I've seen young people. We just
talked about that legislator out the Haitian gal who died
at me very early age. Yeah, And so we never know, folks,
We never know our days are numbered. We don't know

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what those numbers are. The Bible says it's a point
of man wants to die. We got that appointment. Everybody's
going to make that one. It's a point a man
wants to die. And then the judgment. You want that
judgment to go in your favor, and it will if
Jesus is your counselor he will be there saying, this
is my guy. He's coming to heaven with me. Folks,
make sure you get that, make sure you get that pardon,
make sure you get Jesus. Well, folks, it's not time

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for us to go into our testimony time where we're
just going to take a brief moment and we have
a great story that Christopher's know that I'm going to
tell you about, and that's Wickliffe. John Wickliffe, John Wickliffe
is one of my favorite people. He lived in the
fourteenth century and he absolutely was the most remarkable of
the great scholars of that period. He translated the Bible

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into English, and they just didn't do that, and that
was a real breakthrough because they weren't supposed to do that.
They're supposed to leave everything in Latin of Greek or Hebrew.
And so what he did was he didn't just do that.
He trained his students to go out into the fields,
to go out into the highways and the byways across England,
Mary Old England, preaching the Gospel with English Bibles. That

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then they spread around and it was his dream and
goal to have every plowboy in England studying the Bible.
And look at the huge impact it had on England,
on the Reformation and everything else. John Wickcliffe definitely goes
down as one of the great heroes, one of the
great rock stars of all Christendom and folks, it's not
time for us to go. As we close to the

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mon Saint Martin singing a Creole goodbye and God bless
you all out there.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
Does this have to be the end of the nerd?

Speaker 3 (53:13):
You know I love you?

Speaker 8 (53:15):
In the pamon Land, I can see across the million stars.
When I look in, we can mosey it's the sun time.

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I suppose you couldn't call it a cray if we
take just a little little longer to see our co

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Calling creel good