March 1, 2025 • 54 mins
It’s Carnival time all the time on this edition of The Founders Show, talking Mardi Gras traditions to the melodies of Armand St. Martin’s original musical compositions, heard exclusively on this week’s broadcast with Hy & Christopher.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Bot holes, the politicians, mountains down the road, every fadestition
with no more corruption, man dysfunction.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It's gone on.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Day you found it.
Speaker 4 (00:13):
Evention, God bless out there, Sin trappin high make Henry
you spend, Gary Bubba all the Republic and with.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Christopher dead Moore and folks. It is Carnival time.
Speaker 5 (00:23):
And as war looms in the Middle East and all
the different serious issues are going on, we actually aren't
going to.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Talk about any of that today.
Speaker 5 (00:30):
We're going to talk about what really matters, and that
is Shrove Twesday, the traditions that come across. But more importantly,
we're going to actually make some world premieres of some
carnival music that have never been played on the radio before,
with our own creole balladier who's joining us via phone link.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Or mon Saint Martin, and he is the bard and
menstrul of the Founder Show and the greatest jazz piano
player in the South.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
And if you like our opening music, obviously potholes and
politicians are creole. Goodbye are closing music that's by armand
Saint Martin and Arman is making some world premiere music.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I mean this is you heard the Grammys.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Folks, Well, this is this is the highs, this is
the highest is the mckenry's. Uh yeah, and let's bring
him on, armand Saint Martin. Are you with us, sir?
Speaker 6 (01:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (01:17):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
We can hear you, We can hear you.
Speaker 7 (01:19):
Fine, it's Marti Gras time. Marti Grass only moves one way,
and that's forward.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
And you know it's a way it's moved quite quite
a bit forward in the last couple of years.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Armand Saint Martin.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
You not only are world well renowned valadier, but you
actually write music for various carnival organizations and uh, you've
played some, you've written some some key pieces and we're
going to actually premiere one of those pieces here on
the show. But we got to kind of get in
the spirit of carnival, don't we.
Speaker 7 (01:50):
Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (01:51):
And uh and you have one particular song that talks
about that's the overall Marty Gross song that you have.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
If I'm not mistaken, it must be the Marti It
must be the Marti Gras.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
And I think we can start off you know, I
know we're a talk show, but we gotta it must
be the Marty Grass and.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
We'll talk about what this means. Let's go for it.
I mine Saint Martin. It must be the Marti Gras.
Here on the Founded show.
Speaker 8 (02:22):
Lance again, Oh this is that.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
This must be. This must be.
Speaker 8 (02:43):
Room jumping where the get you through. This must be.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
Can be a.
Speaker 9 (03:33):
More politically it can see the people ricordever album steeping
My probably get to go from mile direct Ever looking
down they.
Speaker 8 (03:50):
Don't get this be far hole.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
You got be my.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
Who ladies and gentlemen, mister armand Saint Martin, this must
be the Marty Gras. And you hit something very key
in that in that song, armand the fact that you
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can be your own parade in the Marty Grass. You're
not just talking about masking, but the fact that what
we think of as parades here in Carnival started off
as different as just basic processions of people through the city.
And it's still some of the best parts of Carnival
when you get right down to it, the walks, the processions. Heck,
even the oldest of the Carnival parades, Komas went back
to its rootscomas still parades. It just parades the way
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it did in eighteen fifty seven, as opposed to the
way it paraded in nineteen fifty.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
It's a marching marching group, like.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, walking group.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
A walking group.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
By the way, the oldest one lives right around it's
headquartered right around a car from us, the Jefferson City Buzzards.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
That's the oldest walking group in New Orleans.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
He used to go in front of my apartment everything,
and it's it's you've got the Jefferson Sea because remember
Jefferson Parish, as Mike Barklay often points out to me,
you know anything past Louisiana Avenue as the suburbs, because
Jefferson Parish went not just the Louisiana but it went
to the whole Garden district. So you hear a lot
of Orlenians just like Jefferson City Buzzers Jefferson don't realize
that actually it was a city. It was the city
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of Jefferson City and you and that gives you a
root of these walking crews. And you see the create
activity of Carnival as well as many of the Bonton
of New Orleans head the balls at the same time
on these weekends you've got, of course crew to view.
But it spawned other walking parades in the French Quarter
that with their Twelfth Night does it twelve Twelfth Night has.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
And they used to have a parade, you know, with floats,
but now they do the well, they have maybe a
carriage and the king's on horseback and the rest of
the rest of the group is just kind of dancing
and marching with a jazz band or them.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
And you've also got you obviously, as I got crew
of chew Baccas, which is now officially religion, you know,
O two to Chewbacca up in the falcon we pray,
and it was it was really funny. Peter Mayhew, who
played Chewbacca, was led the parade along with Andrew Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
And so he's well, if if I may be.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
So bold, Peter Mayhew, who played Chewbacca, he's one of
his best friends, is a frequent contributor and past contributor
here in WR I know, and he's talking ninety five
Alfred Richard, so you know it comes through uh And
Alfred actually stayed with him during the storm during Hurricane Katrina.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
So did Hans Solo show up?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
No, he did not. They would love Harris, he's been
were there, but they would not do.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
But the point I'm getting at is I'm enthused about this,
and I wanted to ask you about this because armand Martin,
because you've composed a lot of songs for walking groups
within parades. But as it seems like all the floats
are congregating on Saint Charles Avenue, no matter where it
is that we've got this endless uptown parade. The neighborhood
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parade seemed to be quote dying, but no matter of speaking,
they aren't because these marching crews seem to be bringing
back the idea of what Carnival started with, which is
put on a costume and make revels through the streets.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I mean the.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Crew of Cowbellians in this and the cow bell d
Racan Society, which of course became Comas started as just
a bunch of people marching.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Are you getting back to our roots?
Speaker 4 (07:49):
You know where the cow bells came from in the
rakes where this was in Mobile. It started in Mobile,
and they were Marti gar actually started Mobile, but this
group organization started maybe you know, one hundred years after
Mobile was founded. They were doing the usual impromptu thing
party and whatnot on Marti Gras Day, and one group
said let's get let's stop at the hardware store and
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get a bunch of bells and rakes and make that
our make noise with it in our symbol. So that's
what they did. They've got a bunch of rakes. They're
waving them around and ringing the Kyle bells. And that's
how the name came from that.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Yeah, but you heard that, you heard that armand said
Martin says. These Americans say, you know, Marti Graus actually
started in mobile. Marty Grass started with commas. I last
time I checked, we Creoles have been doing these carnival
balls and these processions since about seventeen thirty before these
Americans ever showed up.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
No.
Speaker 7 (08:41):
Fourteen ninety nine, when Bienville stopped near New Orleans, that
Marti Grass by you. They celebrated Marti Gras.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I love telling people.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
The very first night that they had Europeans sleeping on
the soil and the permanent cases was by you to
Mardi Gras was Carnival night, and it set the trend.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Christopher and Aman.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
It happened twice because the first trip down the river,
they actually picked the location downriver on the west Bank
for where they thought they'd do the city, and they
camped there and they just happen to arrive Marti Garos
day and had a Marti Girl party. And then when
they came back and had to finally found a way
to get really get access to Nules to give us
the kind of ingress we needed, using the back door
by Saint John and Saint Louis, the rigilies. They they
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when they first landed, it was by you, Marty Grul,
what you said, and the next day entered the city.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
If that doesn't teach you the roots of the city,
it doesn't.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
But I want to get back to the issue because
we're gonna we're gonna set up some of these songs.
How important are these walking crews to this day, to
Carnival and is it really our future? And trying to
get Carnival back in the neighborhoods, because I'd like to
see Marti Gras not just be these big processions down
Saint Charles Avenue, but actually back into the neighborhoods, into
the spirit it once was Armand.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
Well that's a great idea. I you know, like I say,
you can beat your own parade starts with one. You
can go to Martigraos all by yourself. But a costume
or color. You know, I said, wear some color. That's
it's good that it's either you can be an observer
or you can be part of the show. And I
think everybody should be part of the show.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
And if you're not sure the color, just check out
the Marty Girl Indians. You'll get terrible, great ideas of color.
That's right, Trim And there again another marching group.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
Have you noticed that outside of like the Crew of
Saint Anne, which is a marching group in the French
Quarter and some of it. The the tradition of costuming
has not just gone down. It's almost absent now in
uptown and going towards downtown. There's some people that do it,
and I'm glad they keep it. But for the most part,
people really aren't not only masking but costuming on Marty Grande.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
Right, No, it used to be a not too long bag.
The whole families would dress up is as like bumblebees
or something, you know, have a theme, and they'd be
winding through the streets uptown.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
In fact, there's some great books that have been produced,
mainly focusing on costumes that photographers have gotten through the city,
and they're really it's amazing to see the variety and
the everything about the costume and the concepts of costume.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
If I maybe there's multiple carnivals, and sometimes I feel
bad about that because there are there are Marti Gras
days in particular that are three separate days, and the
three worlds don't come together. You have the traditional processions
down Saint Charles Avenue of Rex, and then if you
want to throw in Zulu meeting at.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Jackson Avenue going downtown, you've got that.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
On the You've got the Marti Gras Indians parading through
the neighborhoods, which is the ultimate in these costumes. They
spend a whole year creating just to basically wear two days.
And then then you've got in the French quarter in
the Faubourg Mariny, the crew of Saint Anna, all this
and these people who've worked on their own more conventional
but very unconventional costumes parading and it's it's a tragedy
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to me that we don't get to see or we
don't have a procession of everybody. I would I had something.
I had a dream the other night. I can honestly
said I had a dream. Now I had a dream
this was an actual dream. And the dream I knew
was had to be a dream because it was so impossible,
and you know what it was armand no. The dream
was as the Komas procession came out of you know,
out of Antoine's to make it to their ball. They
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were joined by the Marti graus Indians and the crew
of Saint Anne's Great and everybody you know, and that
they all proceeded not just to Canal Street, but they
went towards Gallier Hall and basically made a loop through downtown.
And of course, if you know anything about Marty Grauslor,
you know those three organizations would never actually be in
the same procession ever under any circumstances whatsoever, no matter what.
But to me it was like I literally woke up
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and it was a very pleasing dream because it was like,
this would be such a wonderful walking culmination, you know,
comas returns to parading by actually not doing anything like
they go from.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
They would go from Antoine's along Royal.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Street, across Saint Charles, go up to Julia Street, come
back end up in Canal Street at the hotel and
I think at the Ritz, and that would be returned
the Komas parade to active parading. You could have one
or two floats like the King's float, but everybody else
would just walk.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
And it's a great idea.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
But I will tell you that the look of horror
not just in the Komas people who had the snoody
coomess people, but you'd.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Also and the Marty Gros Indians and in some of
the humans French quarters. They all look. These are three
groups that love to hate each other, you know.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
So it's are you talking about my uptown swells, Chrystopher.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Let me let me get the let me get these
pretentious let me get the pretentious, uh sort of garden
district accent.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Well, yes, I'm talking about your uptown swells.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
And you've got to understand hi that uh you know,
there's a certain way that anyway on that note, all.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Right, but I want to hear this your famous quote
because it goes with Marty Girl about New Orleans failing.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
It might might And this is my theorem to you
armand Saint Martin. Then I give you on the Founder's
Show at ninety nine to five w RNO. And of
course uh w SLA fifteen sixty am for the en
rerun Monday, Wednesday and Friday on w SLA fifteen sixty am.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
We premiere on Fridays and a rerun Monday and Wednesdays.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
So those of us listening to ASH Wednesday, call this
the last little bit of your Mardi Graus experience. But
I have written a million words in my career as
a journalists, and I've come up with one original thought.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
New Orleans is a failure to everything but living. Do
we know how to live?
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Because we've went through every conceivable horror flood fire, hurricane,
natural disaster and disease.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Largish epidemics, and the history of America.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Twenty percent of the population every ten years at least
and sometimes worse. And then of course invasion. I mean,
if we don't remember that in Bisentennial, the Battle of
New Orleans, nothing can be right. And so when it
comes down to it, we had to turn the fight
against death into a reason to live. And I mean,
and I wanted to bring the jazz musician back in
you because we'd have you for the whole air.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
We're gonna play a lot of music.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
But when it comes right down to it, you've been
involved in more than a few second lines in your life.
And this was really the original marching group with music,
and yet a second line started off as a funerary procession.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
Well that's right. I went to grammar school at Lusher
on Willow Street and one, you know, one side's Pine
wetherside Laura Line, and I remember many times going past
our classroom would be a funeral with a jazz group
and the somehow they'd have a hearse or the coffin
and the family and nobody else, no photographers, you know,
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no no brew ha ha. Just this was this people's funeral,
just going down to one of those cemeteries off of
Laura Line Street and they'd end on the way back,
they'd pick up the tempo and and danced their way home.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
And you know it all started, Yeah, because you had
a We were a highly superstitious society because death was
so common and you with yellow fever was dark. Well,
voodoo was common, but I mean death itself was common.
In the morning, you could you know, Antoinette could be
having breakfast, she gets bitten. By afternoon, she's a yellow,
by dinner, she's dead, or much the next morning. Since
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we didn't involve, you had to get them in the grave.
You had to bring them straight to the cemetery to
the family crypt really quickly. We're a city that was
five blocks wide all through our history because we're building stuff,
say Jude, So we would have to bring the bodies
directly to the cemetery right behind the back of town.
Except that's so close to the house that the spirit
maybe come back and haunt you by the next dinner.
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So what would happen is people would proceed through the
streets in a serpentine fashion and they would beat a
drum and blow a horn to confuse the spirit, and
you'd have the primary line of mourners. Well, you've got
less than twenty four hours before rot goes in. So
what's going to happen is that people do not know
that someone's dead. They learn about it through this line
of mourners, and they grab whatever they have, food, drink,
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and they form a second line of mourners.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Well you end up at the cemetery.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
You've got musicians, you've got friends, you've got food, and
you got a party.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
And so the point being that we.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Turned in something that was a superstitious move on death
into an affirmation of life, to the point where armand
I don't know I mean, frankly, I second lined out
of my wedding, which is probably why I'm divorced.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
But that aside the people.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
People don't even realize that a second line has anything
to do with people dying in many cases today and
it shows how we've turned something in something very positive.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
But it didn't start out that way.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
Well, New Orleans is here to please, just like the
boatman would come, you know, it'd come down the river
before there was steam power, sell their goods, sell their boats,
get them their money in our in our bars, and
go home with a smile on their face. And then
you know, in our in our lifetime, people would get
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off the airplane in New Orleans and say, well, where's
the Cajun food? And nobody coming from elsewhere. I knew
the Cajun was not in New Orleans, but being New Orleans,
we opened Cajun restaurants and started playing Cajun music and
were given what they want.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Amen, Amen.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
And it comes through the country.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
French would come to town, the country.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
French would come to town.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Well, when we come back, we're gonna you actually have
written some songs having to deal with marching groups within
within Marti Graus parades and their their parodies, and we're
going to play something dancing.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Groups figures as opposed to.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
I've seen them step and they're not stepping above there
are side stepping. They're actually not stepping. Well, any crowds
love us call it drunken step. Anyway, Yeah, we're gonna
We're gonna hit that when we come back from our
commercial break with armand Saint Martin here on the program,
and folks stay tuned. You're listening to The Founder Show
online at the Founder's Shows's the and put in that
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the The Founder's Show, I m Henry Christopher Tidmore with
armand Saint Martin talking Marty Gras this season and premiering
a world premiere.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Of a new Marty Grass song right after these commercial messages.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Stay tuned as Armand finishes this section for us with
a creole goodbye.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
We'll see in a minute.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
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Speaker 10 (19:06):
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Speaker 7 (19:11):
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Speaker 5 (19:41):
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Of course, as always, I'm Christopher Tidmore and Chaplin.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Hi mc henry, your spingary vevo of the Republic and
now the disc jockey for the greatest jazz piano player
in the South. I'm on Saint Martin. A'man, thanks for
being with us and your magnificent music.
Speaker 8 (20:20):
And we're talking.
Speaker 7 (20:21):
I'd like to extend a heardy where you're at to
our audience.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
There you go? Where yet? Where y at?
Speaker 7 (20:26):
Ware yet?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Out there?
Speaker 7 (20:27):
Guys?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Where you at? And it told me something that's to.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Troth me something troll me something, and it's the whole
thing we're we're talking not only the traditions of Marti
gro but actually the music of Marti Groun.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
There's so much we could be talking about.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
There's so many songs we could be playing, from Professor
Long Hair to you know, al Carnival Time Jones to
all this different stuff. But we're premiering some songs that
Arman has written that you may have heard on the
parade route, but you've never actually heard on the radio
until now.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
And we've got to work premiere.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
But there's another song that comes through and I want
you guys to explain this because people think of Marty
Gras parades, they think of marching groups, Jefferson City Buzzers,
all those these things, or do they think of Marty
Gras parades. But there's there's a phenomena that is very old.
It's actually been around Marty Grass since the very since
the eighteenth century. But it's it's come back into four
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and it's something you guys have played a major role in,
and that is the dancing Cruise. Now, Hi, what is
you know in the dancing Crewise by their nature are
satirical as well. What is the dancing crew first, and
what is it that we're about to do.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Well, you had that, you had Pete Fountains, half fast
marching band where they would kind of do marching club
club do they just do like a little jig going
down the avenue wherever, playing their jazz, you know, with
Pete on his clarinet, et cetera. And but it developed
as far as I know from all that I have studied,
but I have not read all the entire history of
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Martin Gaul. Let's say I believe the first really serious
dancing group where we had, they were we were choreographed
and whatnot with a dance and dolins of Deta. And
we we we're talking about crude Deta Crewdeta. We are
the insurgents who are infiltrated with a fifth column. We're
infiltrating the general public with dance now to finally bring
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New Orleans to its knees so that our dictator can
finally rule norms. And we put out ultimatums on the city.
And the mayor is the real mayor is shaking in
his boots every time we show up because he knows
this just might be the time he's thrown out of
office and and and we take over the city. But
this dancing group is really great. We it's it's very satirical.
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We do a lot of political satire with it. Uh
last year we did now sometimes not always politics. It
was sports last year Rob Ryan and the time before that,
it was the Bounty style about the bounty finds that
the Saints went through, and it kind of political because
we took some pretty good jabs at Uh at the
head of the NFL.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Now, and that's where that's a perfect transition.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Now, this is a song that you wrote armand when
it came in, Roder Goodell came out and of course
suspended Sean Payton, and this is high politics in New
Orleans effectively killed our chances and not on the Super
Bowl maybe killed it for a while. And there was
another song that was kind of big at that time.
It still is a little big something out of South.
Speaker 7 (23:21):
Korea, right, gang Nam Style was like the huge hit.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
That year on YouTube.
Speaker 7 (23:26):
And every year we try to use a hit song
as a basis for the satirical song that I record
and write for the Dictators Dancing Darlings.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
So the crew d'tat which of course is The Friday
Night Cruise is one of the three big satirical cruise
of Carnival. Creud de tas Chaos, which is Thursday has
used in much of the former moments tradition of it,
and Crude Vous, which runs through the French quarter to
a month before effectively. But when you had the dance
in Darlins, you got this. You come up with a
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song Tackle Bounty Style and is. While it's been played
through New Orleans, it has not really been played here.
So right, we're gonna premiere it here Tackle Ladies and
Gentlemen Bounty Style by armand Saint Martin.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Hang on to your seats, folks. This is a hot
one and it comes in.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
They are well paid players in the n f L.
There's nothing ruder here. There's nothing rud to tell. We
all are enough today to tell good. Tell the Saints
are coming back soon.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Go over to death.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
You can feel the wind, you can feel the breeze.
We'll make the next Super Bowl. Dec agrees, take the
way to change you wanta in the rating, set him
three free, Sean Payton got closed.
Speaker 8 (24:52):
And we got in.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
We got brawn.
Speaker 8 (24:56):
Jimmycrwan, you've got them. We les we got the air.
We got the all. We got the air.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
We please please we.
Speaker 8 (25:12):
Tack go Botdy style. Bounty star.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
That goes Boudy Star.
Speaker 8 (25:24):
Bounty style.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
He that go Bouty Star.
Speaker 8 (25:30):
Stupid Roger back go Boudy style. The stupid Roger.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Orleans Paris is not some county. The Saints don't need
to get some bounty.
Speaker 8 (25:50):
Our team is great knowledge.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Roger giggell his desire of a monopoly. We don't hear
a bay to win the game fast, just one stupid
Roger gives say who needs more money to play on
the field? The millions that would get seeds and deal.
He got strolled. We got Harper, We got Smith, We
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got will Smith, we got Jakies, we got Ivory, and
we got Henderson. A sent Henderson. We got Henderson.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
Peleez please Jack gold Bowndery style.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Bounty style, Jack litl Bowdery style.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
I love this.
Speaker 8 (26:48):
Jack gold Boundery start.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Let me let me make a comment on that. I
was there and uh our we we our uniform our
we do a different costume every time. This time it
was a Saint's football uniform and we had the old fashion,
the the old leather helmets and Uh, we were we
Our makeup was blood and bruises, and I'm telling you
the crowds went crazy over it. But every year when
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the year before that were the one percenters and were
dressed in tails top hats, they went crazy over it.
And then and then last year we had another great one.
And uh, but on the county, the tackle bounding style,
that particular move dance move is extremely energetic and ext
and just as exhausting.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
The guy who leads us as iron Man.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Can we talk about it for those just joining us
here and he's talking ninety nine and five and W
R I O and W S L A. We talked
about the dance and darlands of the Crew de Tas
and the satirical dance they do every you know, basically
every Marty Grass they go along with the fellow.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Who leads us as an Ironman competitor, he's really good.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
When we finished that, he said, it's the hardest thing
he's ever been through and I don't know how we
made it through those. And you know, it's like about
a five mile rob five six mile right routes, but
we're going forwards and backwards and side to side, so
you can double at least double the amount of mileage
we put on our feet on this thing. It's it's
And by the way, you've heard of the Sixten Stompers,
and many people think that we copied them, Just the opposite.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
We were the first ones they copied up, they predated.
Speaker 7 (28:18):
I just like to say, my favorite line there is
our team is hotter than Manuel's hot. The Mollys.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Yeah, that is fantastic. I can imagine how you get
these satire, writing these songs, armand Saint Martin.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
You're you're you're tapping into what I think is the
most important part of carnival. A lot of people say
it's the pageantry, or it's the mythical or it's the
beauty of the parades, or it's the balls.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
I actually think, believe it or not.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
As much as fun and wonderful as those things are,
they're nothing, Nor are.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
The beads, the parades, the you know, all the different stuff.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
I think what matters that Marty Grass is satire absence,
the idea that we can not only make fun of things,
but through humor and song and music and really over
the top floats, we might actually be able to to
move some kind of political or social change. Marti Gras
has been used for that throughout the last two centuries.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
We got rid of it.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
It was a major reason for getting the carpet Bakers
out of here. Uh, Marty Goro is such a big thing.
Back at that time, much it was better. Uh it
was more let's say, considering uh the setting and whatnot.
It was more extravagant. It wasn't as large as it
is today anything, but we didn't have the technology back then.
But it was considered to be the greatest show of
all the shows going on. So it made the page
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beads they made. They made the front page of major
European American newspapers and uh it when they saw the satire,
it gave us a voice, a way to get our
message out about what the carpet bakers were doing.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
The radical Republican newspapers read just like Abram Lincoln's hometown newspaper,
the in Springfield, Illinois. Glory to God, the spirit of
seventeen seventy six still lives in America. And that was
the precipitating event, catalyzing event that finally forced the federal
government to pull out federal troops and restore home rule
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to New Orleans. And by the way, the group when
we had the battle, the largest ethnic group in that
battle with the blacks, they were suffering I think more
than any.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Well, some would argue in a wake of what happened,
but that it made a major national political change, did
I mean after Katrina though, And this is something you
gentlemen played a role in. If it weren't for the
satirical floats that came in that got national attention, I
don't know. I think that there's a good argument that
a lot of the money and help that that was
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already trickling down might have stopped flowing.
Speaker 7 (30:46):
Armand well, I'm always available for more trickle.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Well, let's speak get more trickle.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
We got another song here that on my wonderful trusty
device before we go, before we go to our worod premiere.
And this is a little bit more uh contextual for
Marti Gras. It's called rock and roll Fat Friday.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Set this up for now now you said it, Reverend,
but this is a very solemn song, armand correct to
how we start.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Yeah, part of this is the tradition, of course that
Crew Deta comes out on Fat Friday. You know, think
about this what is what does Marty Graus mean Fat Tuesday?
What does Londy Graus mean? Theoretically we made it up
fat Monday, but we don't. You can't really say, you know,
demolish Gras. It just doesn't, you know, Vondra d Graus,
It just doesn't kind of you know, Sunday Gras. Vonder
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go Friday Gau You can't say. So you gotta say
fat Friday. It flies better. So this is this is
talking about the night that really kicks off the final
weekend of Marti Gras, and it kicks it off with
a crew de top raid and which you guys are
playing and give it just a few minutes of this
and let it too armand Saint Martin's rock and roll
Fat Friday Night.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
All right, never before heard, never before heard on radio.
Speaker 8 (32:01):
You know what any blow let me go ron you
did ta ra rady shot oil rona you do through
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rasovering face with a crash, brass.
Speaker 12 (32:31):
Run a rack, rock with a rad rocky shows rock
and tracks all rock and round and the night roll
you didn't tak goat go right row lay face.
Speaker 8 (32:59):
Or ride they n run riding they.
Speaker 10 (33:07):
Ll run.
Speaker 8 (33:12):
You ride right rub over ride Rock, Got Run Run
the time to rocky rock in.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
The road, that fat night, that run night, that fan night,
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right run ride.
Speaker 8 (33:57):
The bright about to do the rock rock racking night.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
N n.
Speaker 7 (34:16):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
No, brother, wouldn't happen up there.
Speaker 12 (34:25):
We got up there? Who are no.
Speaker 8 (34:32):
Rack rocky group.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
On the rocky rule rack.
Speaker 8 (34:45):
Rock roll rock and.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
Bad night that night.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
For our w s l A listeners.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
For w s l A listeners, If that doesn't put
you in the spirit on Friday, as this is coming
out for you for Friday of Carnival, nothing does, I
mean for everybody of course our listeners in the weekend
this comes out in our Indian.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Did you hear those keys being torn being just uh
heated up to red hot uh just extreme high temperatures.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Yeah, I mean, I mean I think that piano was
getting on fire.
Speaker 13 (35:40):
Just not.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Let me tell you a story about Arman was.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
My mon Saint Martin of course, the balladeer, the creel
balladeer is joining us here with his Marty gard grates
that he's written for not only himself, but for the
crew to tah we wears for their dancing dolands.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Arman and I were at a ball a few years ago.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Uh, Jimmy Maxwell was his band and people were eating
and a few people were on the floor dance. Most
people just sitting around their tables talking and eating. And
he'd gone on for a while. It was like nobody
was hardly going to dance. Well, Armand's good friends with Jimmy,
and he let him get up there on the piano
for about twenty minutes. I'm telling you, Within about a
minute of Armand being on the piano, the table's empty.
They were all on the dance floor. And listen, Jimmy
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Maxwell band is a great band. I'm not saying it's
Jimmy and he played for like twenty minutes and then
when it was his time was over with the floor
emptied together.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
I mean, it was a really amazing thing to see that.
It's very interestant.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
Well, speaking of a little wiggling and we've got our
Natalie's got this primed up. There is another song that
has never been premiered anywhere else that you wrote for Carnival.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Give us a little background on what you mean by Sampson.
Speaker 7 (36:45):
Well, the dancing Darlands did the dressed up as Rob Ryan,
who is the hero defensive coach of the Saints, and
so they of course all the dancers had this long hair.
So I declare that he was the Sampson of the side.
The song follows that.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Idea, and our costumes were this.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
We had a baseball hat with Saints thing aren't with
long flowing hair which we would part of the routine
was to take our hand and run our hand through
our hair and as we you know, wiggled.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Our armond high and the pussy footers here, you.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Know, wait, wait and then and then the rest of
the costume was great.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
I mean, the rest of it was just like you know,
brown khaki pants and a and a shirt of a sweatshirt,
but with a Saint thing on him.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
But the key to the costume was the belly.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
We were all issued large bellies, foam rubber bellies, which
we then proceeded to decorate and and leave our jersey
slightly up so you could see our big ugly name
and belly button.
Speaker 5 (37:44):
Ar mind as somebody who formerly had a rather big belly.
And so it's part of that club, I know, your
dancing group, the dancing darlings. Not many of them needed
much extra padding. Here about about half of the new
fashion trend which meant some of our bellies were exceedingly large. Yes,
we've got Kim Kardashian, you know, leading people to have
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a few implants on the on the rear end. Now
here New Orleans on the front end. But you know
how you implant in the front end of New Orleans
where you're going to steady diet of poor boys, you know,
and beer for yeah, beer for the entire Marty Guard season.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
So on that note.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
In an honor of former defensive coordinated New Orleans Saints,
the song Natalie Sampson on the sidelines with.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
The main like colon the main like co lion Rob Ryan.
The defense gets a street probably their longly this hair
longly the Sampson of the sideline drop Ryan.
Speaker 6 (38:42):
Ran Ryan Ryan, Ryan Ryan Ryan.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
The blow is go ahead, never God is there. He's
throwing both from Dan Daneuristic Satan, Danuristic Satan. The greatest Colosseum.
That is where you see him pacing like a menace,
attacking with the deepens, rock riding.
Speaker 8 (39:06):
Ring riding while right right run to blowing and glowing,
never slowing down.
Speaker 6 (39:12):
With his hair.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Written the endlo.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
He gets them in the wrisle. He snapped them in
the wizzle dryer. He glitters. Any sacks if he sacks
the quarterback, the corner back of the crying when they
see his name from me said raw right, oh say,
and you'll see power, says, try to stop the ball,
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even running right, running left, glow aloft, rolling out.
Speaker 7 (39:45):
He'll dare you right there.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
He'll never get around him. Man, he'll have you any ground.
He's the latest in the jet set with his hair
and his head set, his hair and little set said,
run right, surprises and he.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Shot and let's reserve. Come we'll come out with the song.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
Pause it right there if you would, Natalie and Armand
I mean it gives it shows the Saints are so elemental.
I mean even before we had, you know, uh a
black and Gold super Bowl, you know when it can't
we had a Marty Grass super Bowl. The Saints are
going to be the elements of it. Any any comments
in the Saints and this year's cruditade, by chance, not
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in the.
Speaker 7 (40:27):
May be the derecle float about Rob Ryan.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Actually all right, we'll get more of that. Stay tuned more.
Speaker 5 (40:33):
Armand Saint Martin with Hiy mc henry and Christopher Tadmore
talking about this year's Marty Grass back when we come in.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Does this have to be the end of the night?
Speaker 4 (40:50):
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Speaker 13 (40:56):
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Speaker 4 (40:58):
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Speaker 5 (41:34):
Welcome back to the special Marti Gras audition of the
Founder's Show, Ladies and gentlemen, with our own creole balladeer
armand Saint Martin has always on, Christopher Tidmore.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
And Chapelain II mcgenry a.
Speaker 4 (41:45):
It's been gary by by the Republican one of your
dancing dollins right.
Speaker 13 (41:49):
Here on the Founders Show. You know, harm on.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
I think it's time for some seriously solemn church music.
Could you give us a song like that? Folks Hang
on to You appears.
Speaker 10 (42:04):
The feature The Party Fan Voting Cattle.
Speaker 6 (42:22):
Has made a red bus.
Speaker 8 (42:27):
That Friday, the bat Friday Back Friday Talk just take
a can on the Monygon.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
This back Friday Fat Friday, you re talk just takes care.
Speaker 6 (42:48):
Of the body.
Speaker 8 (42:49):
Gol pitter Rid grabbing back play ride as.
Speaker 13 (43:05):
Christopher, what do you think about that hymn?
Speaker 5 (43:08):
Now we got we got three sterical parades that come through.
Honest crew to view some of the stuff that was
really funny. You've got a crewit Ta, which runs the
Friday before Mardergren. Of course, you've got Chaos formally, which
you know has no association with the Momas Parade, but
takes up what Momas once did of the sat Tire.
But you know, you're seeing satire more and more cruise
and it's kind of nice to see it come through.
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You're also seeing a lot of New Orleans nostalgia. And
I want to throw a hat tip out to the
crew of Poncha Train And I'm walking on Saturday morning
down Napoline Avenue and the crew Ponta Train did back
to Lake Ponchatrain and they did everything from the Valley
High to Poncha Train Beach to They actually had a
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float called the Submarine Races with a submarine on it.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
They had you know, crabbing off the sea wall and
you see the a there no More.
Speaker 5 (43:59):
And of course my favorite one was they had a
float to dedicated to all the restaurants that were once
out there. Fitzgerald, sim Uh, sid Mars, the uh Uh,
the oh My My Lounge, the you know, my Mile,
the Bounty so the only uh and of course Brewings,
which was my favorite place. I was literally the one
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of the last people who ever ate at Brewings Saturday
night before Katrina celebrating a special holiy you know, anniversary
in my life.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
And we're there very late and we go.
Speaker 5 (44:32):
And then it's funny because because that day it was
sort of like the farewell tour of New Orleans. We
had dinner at Brewings, we we went and essentially, you know,
went to the Louisiana Nature Center, which I hadn't been
in years and didn't exist two days later, you know,
all things, and and I think capturing that returning to
New Orleans viewpoint is something that you've done very accurately.
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We've got two more songs to play, and one of them, though,
talking about driving around the city. This is not satirical
song of Marty gra This is just trying to catch
the spirit. What do you mean when you say you're
out on patrol?
Speaker 7 (45:05):
Arm mar Well, when I was away from New Orleans,
I'd come home and do just what the song says.
I pick up a couple of cousins when in the
middle of the night, drive around and I would show
them places in New Orleans where our family had lived
or things that happened. I could describe neighbors that hadn't
been there or changed and and so we just sort
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of just called it being out on patrol.
Speaker 5 (45:31):
It's sort of reacquainting itself of the place you loved.
Let's play a little clip from that comes through armand
Saint Martin. It's Martgroo show, like.
Speaker 8 (45:43):
To do that old ria, like just javing like it's
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so good, false.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
Crazy, that's what you call out of control.
Speaker 4 (46:45):
It sounds like you actually had your own body graw
that day. Start off with the blues and end up
with a jazzy song.
Speaker 7 (46:51):
Interesting, like you're sitting in the back of somebody convertible
and all of a sudden they stomp it and they're
going eighty.
Speaker 4 (46:58):
Mixing the genres, mixing the genre was very unique, very eclectic.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (47:04):
Well, what about trailers. We know something about trailers down
here in New Oles and FEMA. Uh we everybody, Well,
many people needed a FEMA trailer. Many people got FEMA trailers.
Many people probably wish they hadn't gotten them, because you know,
I think many didn't have got a cancer from those trails.
Speaker 5 (47:21):
I will never forget Junior Rodriguez, the parish president of
Saint Bernard's comment. He says, you uptown people, He says,
when I was growing up, you know, you made fun
of us for having a trailer.
Speaker 14 (47:32):
Now you show up, you know you have people talking.
I got a nicer trailer in my front yard. You
all become rednecks. You all become it was we red
next city there for a while, and it was and
it was, I mean it was it was like it
was really he was. He was so I missed juniors.
It was he was comic relief. But no, it's we're
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trying to trying to get this all primed up. When
it does here, but it's uh when we got it
armon the satire of New Orleans. What's happened is something
that is just the essence of who we are. But
it allows us. We have to laugh because otherwise we
would cry. And it's better to laugh than cry.
Speaker 7 (48:16):
And you know what, New Orleanians, you give them half
a chance, and they love each other. And you run
into other New Orleans people anywhere away from New Orleans,
and it's not long before you're talking about gumbo and
bow boys and where your mama lives and where you
went to high school?
Speaker 3 (48:31):
Yeah, the ultimate New Orleans question, of course, you know,
where'd you go to high school? Where'd you go to school?
No other city does that, think of that, No other
city does that.
Speaker 4 (48:40):
And every segment of society, every every possible socioechnic group,
ethnic group, when they meet a new person from New Orleans,
one of the first things I'll always say is where'd
you go to high school?
Speaker 2 (48:50):
Not college? Other folks that thinking of college or where
maybe their graduate work or something. No, where did you
go to high school?
Speaker 4 (48:57):
Because at IDs you it tells you where from where
you've come and where you belong.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
And so that's right Yeah, it's really fascinating.
Speaker 7 (49:04):
I started. I just started singing waiting for my trailer
when I had a show I was doing not long
after Katrina, and I realized I had an instant hit
and I still play it today. I played at Sunday
at the Boomtown Casino where I do the Sunday Brunch,
and people get it.
Speaker 3 (49:22):
They just get it, and it's just it's one of
those incidents. We're trying to prime it up here when
it comes out, and this.
Speaker 4 (49:28):
Is an up close and personal experience for her mind,
because her mind, you had your own FEMA trailer, didn't you.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (49:32):
Absolutely? And even Alec Gifford came and filmed me with
my trailer.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (49:37):
Uh. But you know, it was like within the month
before I retired, and I went to Norman Robinson's show
to play it, and Norman was trying to take everything
very seriously. And remember you had that post Katrina show. Yeah,
And I said, well, Norman, this is actually funny.
Speaker 4 (49:53):
You know, you and mister Green were probably the most
two most famous people with trailers here as Loans and
then and I.
Speaker 7 (50:01):
Told him all camera, I said, I think we should
have a game show called What's My water line.
Speaker 5 (50:08):
We're gonna what we're gonna do. Our mind is is
we leave the show. We're going to come and tackle things.
But what we want to go ahead and do is
hy McHenry's gospel by my moment and patriotic moment right now.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
So we'll do that right now.
Speaker 5 (50:21):
We'll come in, come back to Marty Guard because see
the subject of the patriot woman is Marty Grass.
Speaker 4 (50:25):
Yes, absolutely, and now it is time for our chaplain
by blah, patriotic moment. We just took a brief moment
to remind you of the biblical foundations of America. Now
we have a gentleman, one of our finding fathers, who
would have been mister Marti gro if he lived in
New Orleans. Certainly he became mister Paris, if you will,
when he lived in Paris. And I'm talking about Benjamin Franklin.
And this is what Benjamin Franklin said. When our Constitution
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Convention was first meeting, there was great discord, great argumentation.
People were having fits and fighting with one another's terrible
the small states with the big states, the rich states
were the poor states, et cetera, et cetera. And Benjamin
Franklin had been strangely quiet and normally very gregarious man.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
After a couple of.
Speaker 4 (51:04):
Weeks, he tapped his cane on the floor and the
entire room became silent to listen to the Great Franklin
make comment. And he said, in the beginning of this
contest with Britain, when we were sensible of danger, we
had daily prayers in this room for divine protection. Our prayers, Sir,
were heard, and they were graciously answered. Do we imagine
that if God considers the state of a sparrow, he
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certainly would consider the building of a nation. We do
that if without prayer we can only hope to build
the Tower of Babel, do we possibly think we no
longer need his assistance? Franklin also went on to say
that in the Benjamin Franklin University that he founded, which
became I believe, the University of Philadelphia or Pennsylvania, he
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said that the university should be dedicated as a nursery
of religion and learning, built on Christ the cornerstone. And
concerning the public schools that he also helped start. In
his plan of education, he included this and the charter
that the Excellency of the Christian Religion above all others,
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ancient or modern, should be taught, folks. I really think
that Benjamin Franklin one certainly wanted to keep God in government.
And I'm talking about philosophically, not institutionally. Well what about God?
And you you know, there's going to be a great
party one day making Marty Graul look small, and that's
going to be Heaven. God's got a great party plan
for us up there, and it's going to be fun, folks.
It's the Kingdom of God is going to be more
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fun than you can possibly imagine. And God wants you there.
He has sent you your invitation. It's called the Gospel,
and this is what it is. The Gospel is Christ
died for all your sins, according to the scripture, was
buried and rose from the dead to win for you
that precious, free gift of everlasting life. Except that invitation,
show up, show up for the Marti Graul in heaven
where we're going to have fun for all of etern.
Speaker 5 (52:54):
And on that note, thank you, And on that note, folks,
we're going to go in and instead of tears we
had it with waiting for trailer here on wr O
Needs at Talk ninety nine to five and the founder's show,
Ladies and Gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (53:08):
Here on the program, Ladies.
Speaker 5 (53:09):
And Gentlemen, armand Saint Martin and our own Hi McCanny
and Christopher Tadmore sign off when it comes to be
so bled.
Speaker 3 (53:17):
To drop it, even my young I'll wait ball Tree.
Speaker 15 (53:25):
It's reading them. I talked again to feel they think
I'm on the list, but they say I don't win.
Exist up bal My Tree, I said.
Speaker 8 (53:47):
To the Medes.
Speaker 1 (53:52):
And not just have to be.
Speaker 2 (53:57):
I'll cook.
Speaker 6 (53:58):
Got all the
Bot holes, the politicians, mountains down the road, every fadestition
with no more corruption, man dysfunction.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It's gone on.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Day you found it.
Speaker 4 (00:13):
Evention, God bless out there, Sin trappin high make Henry
you spend, Gary Bubba all the Republic and with.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Christopher dead Moore and folks. It is Carnival time.
Speaker 5 (00:23):
And as war looms in the Middle East and all
the different serious issues are going on, we actually aren't
going to.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Talk about any of that today.
Speaker 5 (00:30):
We're going to talk about what really matters, and that
is Shrove Twesday, the traditions that come across. But more importantly,
we're going to actually make some world premieres of some
carnival music that have never been played on the radio before,
with our own creole balladier who's joining us via phone link.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Or mon Saint Martin, and he is the bard and
menstrul of the Founder Show and the greatest jazz piano
player in the South.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
And if you like our opening music, obviously potholes and
politicians are creole. Goodbye are closing music that's by armand
Saint Martin and Arman is making some world premiere music.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I mean this is you heard the Grammys.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Folks, Well, this is this is the highs, this is
the highest is the mckenry's. Uh yeah, and let's bring
him on, armand Saint Martin. Are you with us, sir?
Speaker 6 (01:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (01:17):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
We can hear you, We can hear you.
Speaker 7 (01:19):
Fine, it's Marti Gras time. Marti Grass only moves one way,
and that's forward.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
And you know it's a way it's moved quite quite
a bit forward in the last couple of years.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Armand Saint Martin.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
You not only are world well renowned valadier, but you
actually write music for various carnival organizations and uh, you've
played some, you've written some some key pieces and we're
going to actually premiere one of those pieces here on
the show. But we got to kind of get in
the spirit of carnival, don't we.
Speaker 7 (01:50):
Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (01:51):
And uh and you have one particular song that talks
about that's the overall Marty Gross song that you have.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
If I'm not mistaken, it must be the Marti It
must be the Marti Gras.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
And I think we can start off you know, I
know we're a talk show, but we gotta it must
be the Marty Grass and.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
We'll talk about what this means. Let's go for it.
I mine Saint Martin. It must be the Marti Gras.
Here on the Founded show.
Speaker 8 (02:22):
Lance again, Oh this is that.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
This must be. This must be.
Speaker 8 (02:43):
Room jumping where the get you through. This must be.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
Can be a.
Speaker 9 (03:33):
More politically it can see the people ricordever album steeping
My probably get to go from mile direct Ever looking
down they.
Speaker 8 (03:50):
Don't get this be far hole.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
You got be my.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
Who ladies and gentlemen, mister armand Saint Martin, this must
be the Marty Gras. And you hit something very key
in that in that song, armand the fact that you
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can be your own parade in the Marty Grass. You're
not just talking about masking, but the fact that what
we think of as parades here in Carnival started off
as different as just basic processions of people through the city.
And it's still some of the best parts of Carnival
when you get right down to it, the walks, the processions. Heck,
even the oldest of the Carnival parades, Komas went back
to its rootscomas still parades. It just parades the way
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it did in eighteen fifty seven, as opposed to the
way it paraded in nineteen fifty.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
It's a marching marching group, like.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, walking group.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
A walking group.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
By the way, the oldest one lives right around it's
headquartered right around a car from us, the Jefferson City Buzzards.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
That's the oldest walking group in New Orleans.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
He used to go in front of my apartment everything,
and it's it's you've got the Jefferson Sea because remember
Jefferson Parish, as Mike Barklay often points out to me,
you know anything past Louisiana Avenue as the suburbs, because
Jefferson Parish went not just the Louisiana but it went
to the whole Garden district. So you hear a lot
of Orlenians just like Jefferson City Buzzers Jefferson don't realize
that actually it was a city. It was the city
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of Jefferson City and you and that gives you a
root of these walking crews. And you see the create
activity of Carnival as well as many of the Bonton
of New Orleans head the balls at the same time
on these weekends you've got, of course crew to view.
But it spawned other walking parades in the French Quarter
that with their Twelfth Night does it twelve Twelfth Night has.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
And they used to have a parade, you know, with floats,
but now they do the well, they have maybe a
carriage and the king's on horseback and the rest of
the rest of the group is just kind of dancing
and marching with a jazz band or them.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
And you've also got you obviously, as I got crew
of chew Baccas, which is now officially religion, you know,
O two to Chewbacca up in the falcon we pray,
and it was it was really funny. Peter Mayhew, who
played Chewbacca, was led the parade along with Andrew Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
And so he's well, if if I may be.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
So bold, Peter Mayhew, who played Chewbacca, he's one of
his best friends, is a frequent contributor and past contributor
here in WR I know, and he's talking ninety five
Alfred Richard, so you know it comes through uh And
Alfred actually stayed with him during the storm during Hurricane Katrina.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
So did Hans Solo show up?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
No, he did not. They would love Harris, he's been
were there, but they would not do.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
But the point I'm getting at is I'm enthused about this,
and I wanted to ask you about this because armand Martin,
because you've composed a lot of songs for walking groups
within parades. But as it seems like all the floats
are congregating on Saint Charles Avenue, no matter where it
is that we've got this endless uptown parade. The neighborhood
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parade seemed to be quote dying, but no matter of speaking,
they aren't because these marching crews seem to be bringing
back the idea of what Carnival started with, which is
put on a costume and make revels through the streets.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I mean the.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Crew of Cowbellians in this and the cow bell d
Racan Society, which of course became Comas started as just
a bunch of people marching.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Are you getting back to our roots?
Speaker 4 (07:49):
You know where the cow bells came from in the
rakes where this was in Mobile. It started in Mobile,
and they were Marti gar actually started Mobile, but this
group organization started maybe you know, one hundred years after
Mobile was founded. They were doing the usual impromptu thing
party and whatnot on Marti Gras Day, and one group
said let's get let's stop at the hardware store and
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get a bunch of bells and rakes and make that
our make noise with it in our symbol. So that's
what they did. They've got a bunch of rakes. They're
waving them around and ringing the Kyle bells. And that's
how the name came from that.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Yeah, but you heard that, you heard that armand said
Martin says. These Americans say, you know, Marti Graus actually
started in mobile. Marty Grass started with commas. I last
time I checked, we Creoles have been doing these carnival
balls and these processions since about seventeen thirty before these
Americans ever showed up.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
No.
Speaker 7 (08:41):
Fourteen ninety nine, when Bienville stopped near New Orleans, that
Marti Grass by you. They celebrated Marti Gras.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I love telling people.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
The very first night that they had Europeans sleeping on
the soil and the permanent cases was by you to
Mardi Gras was Carnival night, and it set the trend.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Christopher and Aman.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
It happened twice because the first trip down the river,
they actually picked the location downriver on the west Bank
for where they thought they'd do the city, and they
camped there and they just happen to arrive Marti Garos
day and had a Marti Girl party. And then when
they came back and had to finally found a way
to get really get access to Nules to give us
the kind of ingress we needed, using the back door
by Saint John and Saint Louis, the rigilies. They they
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when they first landed, it was by you, Marty Grul,
what you said, and the next day entered the city.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
If that doesn't teach you the roots of the city,
it doesn't.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
But I want to get back to the issue because
we're gonna we're gonna set up some of these songs.
How important are these walking crews to this day, to
Carnival and is it really our future? And trying to
get Carnival back in the neighborhoods, because I'd like to
see Marti Gras not just be these big processions down
Saint Charles Avenue, but actually back into the neighborhoods, into
the spirit it once was Armand.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
Well that's a great idea. I you know, like I say,
you can beat your own parade starts with one. You
can go to Martigraos all by yourself. But a costume
or color. You know, I said, wear some color. That's
it's good that it's either you can be an observer
or you can be part of the show. And I
think everybody should be part of the show.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
And if you're not sure the color, just check out
the Marty Girl Indians. You'll get terrible, great ideas of color.
That's right, Trim And there again another marching group.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
Have you noticed that outside of like the Crew of
Saint Anne, which is a marching group in the French
Quarter and some of it. The the tradition of costuming
has not just gone down. It's almost absent now in
uptown and going towards downtown. There's some people that do it,
and I'm glad they keep it. But for the most part,
people really aren't not only masking but costuming on Marty Grande.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
Right, No, it used to be a not too long bag.
The whole families would dress up is as like bumblebees
or something, you know, have a theme, and they'd be
winding through the streets uptown.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
In fact, there's some great books that have been produced,
mainly focusing on costumes that photographers have gotten through the city,
and they're really it's amazing to see the variety and
the everything about the costume and the concepts of costume.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
If I maybe there's multiple carnivals, and sometimes I feel
bad about that because there are there are Marti Gras
days in particular that are three separate days, and the
three worlds don't come together. You have the traditional processions
down Saint Charles Avenue of Rex, and then if you
want to throw in Zulu meeting at.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Jackson Avenue going downtown, you've got that.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
On the You've got the Marti Gras Indians parading through
the neighborhoods, which is the ultimate in these costumes. They
spend a whole year creating just to basically wear two days.
And then then you've got in the French quarter in
the Faubourg Mariny, the crew of Saint Anna, all this
and these people who've worked on their own more conventional
but very unconventional costumes parading and it's it's a tragedy
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to me that we don't get to see or we
don't have a procession of everybody. I would I had something.
I had a dream the other night. I can honestly
said I had a dream. Now I had a dream
this was an actual dream. And the dream I knew
was had to be a dream because it was so impossible,
and you know what it was armand no. The dream
was as the Komas procession came out of you know,
out of Antoine's to make it to their ball. They
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were joined by the Marti graus Indians and the crew
of Saint Anne's Great and everybody you know, and that
they all proceeded not just to Canal Street, but they
went towards Gallier Hall and basically made a loop through downtown.
And of course, if you know anything about Marty Grauslor,
you know those three organizations would never actually be in
the same procession ever under any circumstances whatsoever, no matter what.
But to me it was like I literally woke up
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and it was a very pleasing dream because it was like,
this would be such a wonderful walking culmination, you know,
comas returns to parading by actually not doing anything like
they go from.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
They would go from Antoine's along Royal.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Street, across Saint Charles, go up to Julia Street, come
back end up in Canal Street at the hotel and
I think at the Ritz, and that would be returned
the Komas parade to active parading. You could have one
or two floats like the King's float, but everybody else
would just walk.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
And it's a great idea.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
But I will tell you that the look of horror
not just in the Komas people who had the snoody
coomess people, but you'd.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Also and the Marty Gros Indians and in some of
the humans French quarters. They all look. These are three
groups that love to hate each other, you know.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
So it's are you talking about my uptown swells, Chrystopher.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Let me let me get the let me get these
pretentious let me get the pretentious, uh sort of garden
district accent.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Well, yes, I'm talking about your uptown swells.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
And you've got to understand hi that uh you know,
there's a certain way that anyway on that note, all.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Right, but I want to hear this your famous quote
because it goes with Marty Girl about New Orleans failing.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
It might might And this is my theorem to you
armand Saint Martin. Then I give you on the Founder's
Show at ninety nine to five w RNO. And of
course uh w SLA fifteen sixty am for the en
rerun Monday, Wednesday and Friday on w SLA fifteen sixty am.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
We premiere on Fridays and a rerun Monday and Wednesdays.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
So those of us listening to ASH Wednesday, call this
the last little bit of your Mardi Graus experience. But
I have written a million words in my career as
a journalists, and I've come up with one original thought.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
New Orleans is a failure to everything but living. Do
we know how to live?
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Because we've went through every conceivable horror flood fire, hurricane,
natural disaster and disease.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Largish epidemics, and the history of America.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Twenty percent of the population every ten years at least
and sometimes worse. And then of course invasion. I mean,
if we don't remember that in Bisentennial, the Battle of
New Orleans, nothing can be right. And so when it
comes down to it, we had to turn the fight
against death into a reason to live. And I mean,
and I wanted to bring the jazz musician back in
you because we'd have you for the whole air.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
We're gonna play a lot of music.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
But when it comes right down to it, you've been
involved in more than a few second lines in your life.
And this was really the original marching group with music,
and yet a second line started off as a funerary procession.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
Well that's right. I went to grammar school at Lusher
on Willow Street and one, you know, one side's Pine
wetherside Laura Line, and I remember many times going past
our classroom would be a funeral with a jazz group
and the somehow they'd have a hearse or the coffin
and the family and nobody else, no photographers, you know,
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no no brew ha ha. Just this was this people's funeral,
just going down to one of those cemeteries off of
Laura Line Street and they'd end on the way back,
they'd pick up the tempo and and danced their way home.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
And you know it all started, Yeah, because you had
a We were a highly superstitious society because death was
so common and you with yellow fever was dark. Well,
voodoo was common, but I mean death itself was common.
In the morning, you could you know, Antoinette could be
having breakfast, she gets bitten. By afternoon, she's a yellow,
by dinner, she's dead, or much the next morning. Since
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we didn't involve, you had to get them in the grave.
You had to bring them straight to the cemetery to
the family crypt really quickly. We're a city that was
five blocks wide all through our history because we're building stuff,
say Jude, So we would have to bring the bodies
directly to the cemetery right behind the back of town.
Except that's so close to the house that the spirit
maybe come back and haunt you by the next dinner.
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So what would happen is people would proceed through the
streets in a serpentine fashion and they would beat a
drum and blow a horn to confuse the spirit, and
you'd have the primary line of mourners. Well, you've got
less than twenty four hours before rot goes in. So
what's going to happen is that people do not know
that someone's dead. They learn about it through this line
of mourners, and they grab whatever they have, food, drink,
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and they form a second line of mourners.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Well you end up at the cemetery.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
You've got musicians, you've got friends, you've got food, and
you got a party.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
And so the point being that we.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Turned in something that was a superstitious move on death
into an affirmation of life, to the point where armand
I don't know I mean, frankly, I second lined out
of my wedding, which is probably why I'm divorced.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
But that aside the people.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
People don't even realize that a second line has anything
to do with people dying in many cases today and
it shows how we've turned something in something very positive.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
But it didn't start out that way.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
Well, New Orleans is here to please, just like the
boatman would come, you know, it'd come down the river
before there was steam power, sell their goods, sell their boats,
get them their money in our in our bars, and
go home with a smile on their face. And then
you know, in our in our lifetime, people would get
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off the airplane in New Orleans and say, well, where's
the Cajun food? And nobody coming from elsewhere. I knew
the Cajun was not in New Orleans, but being New Orleans,
we opened Cajun restaurants and started playing Cajun music and
were given what they want.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Amen, Amen.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
And it comes through the country.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
French would come to town, the country.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
French would come to town.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Well, when we come back, we're gonna you actually have
written some songs having to deal with marching groups within
within Marti Graus parades and their their parodies, and we're
going to play something dancing.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Groups figures as opposed to.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
I've seen them step and they're not stepping above there
are side stepping. They're actually not stepping. Well, any crowds
love us call it drunken step. Anyway, Yeah, we're gonna
We're gonna hit that when we come back from our
commercial break with armand Saint Martin here on the program,
and folks stay tuned. You're listening to The Founder Show
online at the Founder's Shows's the and put in that
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the The Founder's Show, I m Henry Christopher Tidmore with
armand Saint Martin talking Marty Gras this season and premiering
a world premiere.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Of a new Marty Grass song right after these commercial messages.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Stay tuned as Armand finishes this section for us with
a creole goodbye.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
We'll see in a minute.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
God bless out there.
Speaker 10 (19:06):
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Speaker 7 (19:11):
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Speaker 5 (19:41):
Battles Drift and leg and Welcome back to the Founder's Show.
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Wednesday and Friday. A more precisely Friday, Monday and Wednesday.
Of course, as always, I'm Christopher Tidmore and Chaplin.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Hi mc henry, your spingary vevo of the Republic and
now the disc jockey for the greatest jazz piano player
in the South. I'm on Saint Martin. A'man, thanks for
being with us and your magnificent music.
Speaker 8 (20:20):
And we're talking.
Speaker 7 (20:21):
I'd like to extend a heardy where you're at to
our audience.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
There you go? Where yet? Where y at?
Speaker 7 (20:26):
Ware yet?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Out there?
Speaker 7 (20:27):
Guys?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Where you at? And it told me something that's to.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Troth me something troll me something, and it's the whole
thing we're we're talking not only the traditions of Marti
gro but actually the music of Marti Groun.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
There's so much we could be talking about.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
There's so many songs we could be playing, from Professor
Long Hair to you know, al Carnival Time Jones to
all this different stuff. But we're premiering some songs that
Arman has written that you may have heard on the
parade route, but you've never actually heard on the radio
until now.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
And we've got to work premiere.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
But there's another song that comes through and I want
you guys to explain this because people think of Marty
Gras parades, they think of marching groups, Jefferson City Buzzers,
all those these things, or do they think of Marty
Gras parades. But there's there's a phenomena that is very old.
It's actually been around Marty Grass since the very since
the eighteenth century. But it's it's come back into four
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and it's something you guys have played a major role in,
and that is the dancing Cruise. Now, Hi, what is
you know in the dancing Crewise by their nature are
satirical as well. What is the dancing crew first, and
what is it that we're about to do.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Well, you had that, you had Pete Fountains, half fast
marching band where they would kind of do marching club
club do they just do like a little jig going
down the avenue wherever, playing their jazz, you know, with
Pete on his clarinet, et cetera. And but it developed
as far as I know from all that I have studied,
but I have not read all the entire history of
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Martin Gaul. Let's say I believe the first really serious
dancing group where we had, they were we were choreographed
and whatnot with a dance and dolins of Deta. And
we we we're talking about crude Deta Crewdeta. We are
the insurgents who are infiltrated with a fifth column. We're
infiltrating the general public with dance now to finally bring
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New Orleans to its knees so that our dictator can
finally rule norms. And we put out ultimatums on the city.
And the mayor is the real mayor is shaking in
his boots every time we show up because he knows
this just might be the time he's thrown out of
office and and and we take over the city. But
this dancing group is really great. We it's it's very satirical.
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We do a lot of political satire with it. Uh
last year we did now sometimes not always politics. It
was sports last year Rob Ryan and the time before that,
it was the Bounty style about the bounty finds that
the Saints went through, and it kind of political because
we took some pretty good jabs at Uh at the
head of the NFL.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Now, and that's where that's a perfect transition.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Now, this is a song that you wrote armand when
it came in, Roder Goodell came out and of course
suspended Sean Payton, and this is high politics in New
Orleans effectively killed our chances and not on the Super
Bowl maybe killed it for a while. And there was
another song that was kind of big at that time.
It still is a little big something out of South.
Speaker 7 (23:21):
Korea, right, gang Nam Style was like the huge hit.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
That year on YouTube.
Speaker 7 (23:26):
And every year we try to use a hit song
as a basis for the satirical song that I record
and write for the Dictators Dancing Darlings.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
So the crew d'tat which of course is The Friday
Night Cruise is one of the three big satirical cruise
of Carnival. Creud de tas Chaos, which is Thursday has
used in much of the former moments tradition of it,
and Crude Vous, which runs through the French quarter to
a month before effectively. But when you had the dance
in Darlins, you got this. You come up with a
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song Tackle Bounty Style and is. While it's been played
through New Orleans, it has not really been played here.
So right, we're gonna premiere it here Tackle Ladies and
Gentlemen Bounty Style by armand Saint Martin.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Hang on to your seats, folks. This is a hot
one and it comes in.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
They are well paid players in the n f L.
There's nothing ruder here. There's nothing rud to tell. We
all are enough today to tell good. Tell the Saints
are coming back soon.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Go over to death.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
You can feel the wind, you can feel the breeze.
We'll make the next Super Bowl. Dec agrees, take the
way to change you wanta in the rating, set him
three free, Sean Payton got closed.
Speaker 8 (24:52):
And we got in.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
We got brawn.
Speaker 8 (24:56):
Jimmycrwan, you've got them. We les we got the air.
We got the all. We got the air.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
We please please we.
Speaker 8 (25:12):
Tack go Botdy style. Bounty star.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
That goes Boudy Star.
Speaker 8 (25:24):
Bounty style.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
He that go Bouty Star.
Speaker 8 (25:30):
Stupid Roger back go Boudy style. The stupid Roger.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Orleans Paris is not some county. The Saints don't need
to get some bounty.
Speaker 8 (25:50):
Our team is great knowledge.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Roger giggell his desire of a monopoly. We don't hear
a bay to win the game fast, just one stupid
Roger gives say who needs more money to play on
the field? The millions that would get seeds and deal.
He got strolled. We got Harper, We got Smith, We
(26:17):
got will Smith, we got Jakies, we got Ivory, and
we got Henderson. A sent Henderson. We got Henderson.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
Peleez please Jack gold Bowndery style.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Bounty style, Jack litl Bowdery style.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
I love this.
Speaker 8 (26:48):
Jack gold Boundery start.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Let me let me make a comment on that. I
was there and uh our we we our uniform our
we do a different costume every time. This time it
was a Saint's football uniform and we had the old fashion,
the the old leather helmets and Uh, we were we
Our makeup was blood and bruises, and I'm telling you
the crowds went crazy over it. But every year when
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the year before that were the one percenters and were
dressed in tails top hats, they went crazy over it.
And then and then last year we had another great one.
And uh, but on the county, the tackle bounding style,
that particular move dance move is extremely energetic and ext
and just as exhausting.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
The guy who leads us as iron Man.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Can we talk about it for those just joining us
here and he's talking ninety nine and five and W
R I O and W S L A. We talked
about the dance and darlands of the Crew de Tas
and the satirical dance they do every you know, basically
every Marty Grass they go along with the fellow.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Who leads us as an Ironman competitor, he's really good.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
When we finished that, he said, it's the hardest thing
he's ever been through and I don't know how we
made it through those. And you know, it's like about
a five mile rob five six mile right routes, but
we're going forwards and backwards and side to side, so
you can double at least double the amount of mileage
we put on our feet on this thing. It's it's
And by the way, you've heard of the Sixten Stompers,
and many people think that we copied them, Just the opposite.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
We were the first ones they copied up, they predated.
Speaker 7 (28:18):
I just like to say, my favorite line there is
our team is hotter than Manuel's hot. The Mollys.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Yeah, that is fantastic. I can imagine how you get
these satire, writing these songs, armand Saint Martin.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
You're you're you're tapping into what I think is the
most important part of carnival. A lot of people say
it's the pageantry, or it's the mythical or it's the
beauty of the parades, or it's the balls.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
I actually think, believe it or not.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
As much as fun and wonderful as those things are,
they're nothing, Nor are.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
The beads, the parades, the you know, all the different stuff.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
I think what matters that Marty Grass is satire absence,
the idea that we can not only make fun of things,
but through humor and song and music and really over
the top floats, we might actually be able to to
move some kind of political or social change. Marti Gras
has been used for that throughout the last two centuries.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
We got rid of it.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
It was a major reason for getting the carpet Bakers
out of here. Uh, Marty Goro is such a big thing.
Back at that time, much it was better. Uh it
was more let's say, considering uh the setting and whatnot.
It was more extravagant. It wasn't as large as it
is today anything, but we didn't have the technology back then.
But it was considered to be the greatest show of
all the shows going on. So it made the page
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beads they made. They made the front page of major
European American newspapers and uh it when they saw the satire,
it gave us a voice, a way to get our
message out about what the carpet bakers were doing.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
The radical Republican newspapers read just like Abram Lincoln's hometown newspaper,
the in Springfield, Illinois. Glory to God, the spirit of
seventeen seventy six still lives in America. And that was
the precipitating event, catalyzing event that finally forced the federal
government to pull out federal troops and restore home rule
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to New Orleans. And by the way, the group when
we had the battle, the largest ethnic group in that
battle with the blacks, they were suffering I think more
than any.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Well, some would argue in a wake of what happened,
but that it made a major national political change, did
I mean after Katrina though, And this is something you
gentlemen played a role in. If it weren't for the
satirical floats that came in that got national attention, I
don't know. I think that there's a good argument that
a lot of the money and help that that was
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already trickling down might have stopped flowing.
Speaker 7 (30:46):
Armand well, I'm always available for more trickle.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Well, let's speak get more trickle.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
We got another song here that on my wonderful trusty
device before we go, before we go to our worod premiere.
And this is a little bit more uh contextual for
Marti Gras. It's called rock and roll Fat Friday.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Set this up for now now you said it, Reverend,
but this is a very solemn song, armand correct to
how we start.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Yeah, part of this is the tradition, of course that
Crew Deta comes out on Fat Friday. You know, think
about this what is what does Marty Graus mean Fat Tuesday?
What does Londy Graus mean? Theoretically we made it up
fat Monday, but we don't. You can't really say, you know,
demolish Gras. It just doesn't, you know, Vondra d Graus,
It just doesn't kind of you know, Sunday Gras. Vonder
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go Friday Gau You can't say. So you gotta say
fat Friday. It flies better. So this is this is
talking about the night that really kicks off the final
weekend of Marti Gras, and it kicks it off with
a crew de top raid and which you guys are
playing and give it just a few minutes of this
and let it too armand Saint Martin's rock and roll
Fat Friday Night.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
All right, never before heard, never before heard on radio.
Speaker 8 (32:01):
You know what any blow let me go ron you
did ta ra rady shot oil rona you do through
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rasovering face with a crash, brass.
Speaker 12 (32:31):
Run a rack, rock with a rad rocky shows rock
and tracks all rock and round and the night roll
you didn't tak goat go right row lay face.
Speaker 8 (32:59):
Or ride they n run riding they.
Speaker 10 (33:07):
Ll run.
Speaker 8 (33:12):
You ride right rub over ride Rock, Got Run Run
the time to rocky rock in.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
The road, that fat night, that run night, that fan night,
(33:56):
right run ride.
Speaker 8 (33:57):
The bright about to do the rock rock racking night.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
N n.
Speaker 7 (34:16):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
No, brother, wouldn't happen up there.
Speaker 12 (34:25):
We got up there? Who are no.
Speaker 8 (34:32):
Rack rocky group.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
On the rocky rule rack.
Speaker 8 (34:45):
Rock roll rock and.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
Bad night that night.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
For our w s l A listeners.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
For w s l A listeners, If that doesn't put
you in the spirit on Friday, as this is coming
out for you for Friday of Carnival, nothing does, I
mean for everybody of course our listeners in the weekend
this comes out in our Indian.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Did you hear those keys being torn being just uh
heated up to red hot uh just extreme high temperatures.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Yeah, I mean, I mean I think that piano was
getting on fire.
Speaker 13 (35:40):
Just not.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Let me tell you a story about Arman was.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
My mon Saint Martin of course, the balladeer, the creel
balladeer is joining us here with his Marty gard grates
that he's written for not only himself, but for the
crew to tah we wears for their dancing dolands.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Arman and I were at a ball a few years ago.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Uh, Jimmy Maxwell was his band and people were eating
and a few people were on the floor dance. Most
people just sitting around their tables talking and eating. And
he'd gone on for a while. It was like nobody
was hardly going to dance. Well, Armand's good friends with Jimmy,
and he let him get up there on the piano
for about twenty minutes. I'm telling you, Within about a
minute of Armand being on the piano, the table's empty.
They were all on the dance floor. And listen, Jimmy
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Maxwell band is a great band. I'm not saying it's
Jimmy and he played for like twenty minutes and then
when it was his time was over with the floor
emptied together.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
I mean, it was a really amazing thing to see that.
It's very interestant.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
Well, speaking of a little wiggling and we've got our
Natalie's got this primed up. There is another song that
has never been premiered anywhere else that you wrote for Carnival.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Give us a little background on what you mean by Sampson.
Speaker 7 (36:45):
Well, the dancing Darlands did the dressed up as Rob Ryan,
who is the hero defensive coach of the Saints, and
so they of course all the dancers had this long hair.
So I declare that he was the Sampson of the side.
The song follows that.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Idea, and our costumes were this.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
We had a baseball hat with Saints thing aren't with
long flowing hair which we would part of the routine
was to take our hand and run our hand through
our hair and as we you know, wiggled.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Our armond high and the pussy footers here, you.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Know, wait, wait and then and then the rest of
the costume was great.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
I mean, the rest of it was just like you know,
brown khaki pants and a and a shirt of a sweatshirt,
but with a Saint thing on him.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
But the key to the costume was the belly.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
We were all issued large bellies, foam rubber bellies, which
we then proceeded to decorate and and leave our jersey
slightly up so you could see our big ugly name
and belly button.
Speaker 5 (37:44):
Ar mind as somebody who formerly had a rather big belly.
And so it's part of that club, I know, your
dancing group, the dancing darlings. Not many of them needed
much extra padding. Here about about half of the new
fashion trend which meant some of our bellies were exceedingly large. Yes,
we've got Kim Kardashian, you know, leading people to have
(38:06):
a few implants on the on the rear end. Now
here New Orleans on the front end. But you know
how you implant in the front end of New Orleans
where you're going to steady diet of poor boys, you know,
and beer for yeah, beer for the entire Marty Guard season.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
So on that note.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
In an honor of former defensive coordinated New Orleans Saints,
the song Natalie Sampson on the sidelines with.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
The main like colon the main like co lion Rob Ryan.
The defense gets a street probably their longly this hair
longly the Sampson of the sideline drop Ryan.
Speaker 6 (38:42):
Ran Ryan Ryan, Ryan Ryan Ryan.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
The blow is go ahead, never God is there. He's
throwing both from Dan Daneuristic Satan, Danuristic Satan. The greatest Colosseum.
That is where you see him pacing like a menace,
attacking with the deepens, rock riding.
Speaker 8 (39:06):
Ring riding while right right run to blowing and glowing,
never slowing down.
Speaker 6 (39:12):
With his hair.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Written the endlo.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
He gets them in the wrisle. He snapped them in
the wizzle dryer. He glitters. Any sacks if he sacks
the quarterback, the corner back of the crying when they
see his name from me said raw right, oh say,
and you'll see power, says, try to stop the ball,
(39:40):
even running right, running left, glow aloft, rolling out.
Speaker 7 (39:45):
He'll dare you right there.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
He'll never get around him. Man, he'll have you any ground.
He's the latest in the jet set with his hair
and his head set, his hair and little set said,
run right, surprises and he.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Shot and let's reserve. Come we'll come out with the song.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
Pause it right there if you would, Natalie and Armand
I mean it gives it shows the Saints are so elemental.
I mean even before we had, you know, uh a
black and Gold super Bowl, you know when it can't
we had a Marty Grass super Bowl. The Saints are
going to be the elements of it. Any any comments
in the Saints and this year's cruditade, by chance, not
(40:25):
in the.
Speaker 7 (40:27):
May be the derecle float about Rob Ryan.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Actually all right, we'll get more of that. Stay tuned more.
Speaker 5 (40:33):
Armand Saint Martin with Hiy mc henry and Christopher Tadmore
talking about this year's Marty Grass back when we come in.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Does this have to be the end of the night?
Speaker 4 (40:50):
Ladies and gentlemen, this is chaplain High mc enery reminding
you about our ministry here in New Orleans.
Speaker 13 (40:56):
That's LAMB Ministries.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
And you can go to our website Lambanola dot com
and find out all about us.
Speaker 13 (41:03):
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Speaker 4 (41:07):
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Speaker 13 (41:12):
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Speaker 4 (41:13):
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Speaker 5 (41:34):
Welcome back to the special Marti Gras audition of the
Founder's Show, Ladies and gentlemen, with our own creole balladeer
armand Saint Martin has always on, Christopher Tidmore.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
And Chapelain II mcgenry a.
Speaker 4 (41:45):
It's been gary by by the Republican one of your
dancing dollins right.
Speaker 13 (41:49):
Here on the Founders Show. You know, harm on.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
I think it's time for some seriously solemn church music.
Could you give us a song like that? Folks Hang
on to You appears.
Speaker 10 (42:04):
The feature The Party Fan Voting Cattle.
Speaker 6 (42:22):
Has made a red bus.
Speaker 8 (42:27):
That Friday, the bat Friday Back Friday Talk just take
a can on the Monygon.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
This back Friday Fat Friday, you re talk just takes care.
Speaker 6 (42:48):
Of the body.
Speaker 8 (42:49):
Gol pitter Rid grabbing back play ride as.
Speaker 13 (43:05):
Christopher, what do you think about that hymn?
Speaker 5 (43:08):
Now we got we got three sterical parades that come through.
Honest crew to view some of the stuff that was
really funny. You've got a crewit Ta, which runs the
Friday before Mardergren. Of course, you've got Chaos formally, which
you know has no association with the Momas Parade, but
takes up what Momas once did of the sat Tire.
But you know, you're seeing satire more and more cruise
and it's kind of nice to see it come through.
(43:30):
You're also seeing a lot of New Orleans nostalgia. And
I want to throw a hat tip out to the
crew of Poncha Train And I'm walking on Saturday morning
down Napoline Avenue and the crew Ponta Train did back
to Lake Ponchatrain and they did everything from the Valley
High to Poncha Train Beach to They actually had a
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float called the Submarine Races with a submarine on it.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
They had you know, crabbing off the sea wall and
you see the a there no More.
Speaker 5 (43:59):
And of course my favorite one was they had a
float to dedicated to all the restaurants that were once
out there. Fitzgerald, sim Uh, sid Mars, the uh Uh,
the oh My My Lounge, the you know, my Mile,
the Bounty so the only uh and of course Brewings,
which was my favorite place. I was literally the one
(44:20):
of the last people who ever ate at Brewings Saturday
night before Katrina celebrating a special holiy you know, anniversary
in my life.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
And we're there very late and we go.
Speaker 5 (44:32):
And then it's funny because because that day it was
sort of like the farewell tour of New Orleans. We
had dinner at Brewings, we we went and essentially, you know,
went to the Louisiana Nature Center, which I hadn't been
in years and didn't exist two days later, you know,
all things, and and I think capturing that returning to
New Orleans viewpoint is something that you've done very accurately.
(44:53):
We've got two more songs to play, and one of them, though,
talking about driving around the city. This is not satirical
song of Marty gra This is just trying to catch
the spirit. What do you mean when you say you're
out on patrol?
Speaker 7 (45:05):
Arm mar Well, when I was away from New Orleans,
I'd come home and do just what the song says.
I pick up a couple of cousins when in the
middle of the night, drive around and I would show
them places in New Orleans where our family had lived
or things that happened. I could describe neighbors that hadn't
been there or changed and and so we just sort
(45:29):
of just called it being out on patrol.
Speaker 5 (45:31):
It's sort of reacquainting itself of the place you loved.
Let's play a little clip from that comes through armand
Saint Martin. It's Martgroo show, like.
Speaker 8 (45:43):
To do that old ria, like just javing like it's
(46:04):
so good, false.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
Crazy, that's what you call out of control.
Speaker 4 (46:45):
It sounds like you actually had your own body graw
that day. Start off with the blues and end up
with a jazzy song.
Speaker 7 (46:51):
Interesting, like you're sitting in the back of somebody convertible
and all of a sudden they stomp it and they're
going eighty.
Speaker 4 (46:58):
Mixing the genres, mixing the genre was very unique, very eclectic.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (47:04):
Well, what about trailers. We know something about trailers down
here in New Oles and FEMA. Uh we everybody, Well,
many people needed a FEMA trailer. Many people got FEMA trailers.
Many people probably wish they hadn't gotten them, because you know,
I think many didn't have got a cancer from those trails.
Speaker 5 (47:21):
I will never forget Junior Rodriguez, the parish president of
Saint Bernard's comment. He says, you uptown people, He says,
when I was growing up, you know, you made fun
of us for having a trailer.
Speaker 14 (47:32):
Now you show up, you know you have people talking.
I got a nicer trailer in my front yard. You
all become rednecks. You all become it was we red
next city there for a while, and it was and
it was, I mean it was it was like it
was really he was. He was so I missed juniors.
It was he was comic relief. But no, it's we're
(47:53):
trying to trying to get this all primed up. When
it does here, but it's uh when we got it
armon the satire of New Orleans. What's happened is something
that is just the essence of who we are. But
it allows us. We have to laugh because otherwise we
would cry. And it's better to laugh than cry.
Speaker 7 (48:16):
And you know what, New Orleanians, you give them half
a chance, and they love each other. And you run
into other New Orleans people anywhere away from New Orleans,
and it's not long before you're talking about gumbo and
bow boys and where your mama lives and where you
went to high school?
Speaker 3 (48:31):
Yeah, the ultimate New Orleans question, of course, you know,
where'd you go to high school? Where'd you go to school?
No other city does that, think of that, No other
city does that.
Speaker 4 (48:40):
And every segment of society, every every possible socioechnic group,
ethnic group, when they meet a new person from New Orleans,
one of the first things I'll always say is where'd
you go to high school?
Speaker 2 (48:50):
Not college? Other folks that thinking of college or where
maybe their graduate work or something. No, where did you
go to high school?
Speaker 4 (48:57):
Because at IDs you it tells you where from where
you've come and where you belong.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
And so that's right Yeah, it's really fascinating.
Speaker 7 (49:04):
I started. I just started singing waiting for my trailer
when I had a show I was doing not long
after Katrina, and I realized I had an instant hit
and I still play it today. I played at Sunday
at the Boomtown Casino where I do the Sunday Brunch,
and people get it.
Speaker 3 (49:22):
They just get it, and it's just it's one of
those incidents. We're trying to prime it up here when
it comes out, and this.
Speaker 4 (49:28):
Is an up close and personal experience for her mind,
because her mind, you had your own FEMA trailer, didn't you.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (49:32):
Absolutely? And even Alec Gifford came and filmed me with
my trailer.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (49:37):
Uh. But you know, it was like within the month
before I retired, and I went to Norman Robinson's show
to play it, and Norman was trying to take everything
very seriously. And remember you had that post Katrina show. Yeah,
And I said, well, Norman, this is actually funny.
Speaker 4 (49:53):
You know, you and mister Green were probably the most
two most famous people with trailers here as Loans and
then and I.
Speaker 7 (50:01):
Told him all camera, I said, I think we should
have a game show called What's My water line.
Speaker 5 (50:08):
We're gonna what we're gonna do. Our mind is is
we leave the show. We're going to come and tackle things.
But what we want to go ahead and do is
hy McHenry's gospel by my moment and patriotic moment right now.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
So we'll do that right now.
Speaker 5 (50:21):
We'll come in, come back to Marty Guard because see
the subject of the patriot woman is Marty Grass.
Speaker 4 (50:25):
Yes, absolutely, and now it is time for our chaplain
by blah, patriotic moment. We just took a brief moment
to remind you of the biblical foundations of America. Now
we have a gentleman, one of our finding fathers, who
would have been mister Marti gro if he lived in
New Orleans. Certainly he became mister Paris, if you will,
when he lived in Paris. And I'm talking about Benjamin Franklin.
And this is what Benjamin Franklin said. When our Constitution
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Convention was first meeting, there was great discord, great argumentation.
People were having fits and fighting with one another's terrible
the small states with the big states, the rich states
were the poor states, et cetera, et cetera. And Benjamin
Franklin had been strangely quiet and normally very gregarious man.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
After a couple of.
Speaker 4 (51:04):
Weeks, he tapped his cane on the floor and the
entire room became silent to listen to the Great Franklin
make comment. And he said, in the beginning of this
contest with Britain, when we were sensible of danger, we
had daily prayers in this room for divine protection. Our prayers, Sir,
were heard, and they were graciously answered. Do we imagine
that if God considers the state of a sparrow, he
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certainly would consider the building of a nation. We do
that if without prayer we can only hope to build
the Tower of Babel, do we possibly think we no
longer need his assistance? Franklin also went on to say
that in the Benjamin Franklin University that he founded, which
became I believe, the University of Philadelphia or Pennsylvania, he
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said that the university should be dedicated as a nursery
of religion and learning, built on Christ the cornerstone. And
concerning the public schools that he also helped start. In
his plan of education, he included this and the charter
that the Excellency of the Christian Religion above all others,
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ancient or modern, should be taught, folks. I really think
that Benjamin Franklin one certainly wanted to keep God in government.
And I'm talking about philosophically, not institutionally. Well what about God?
And you you know, there's going to be a great
party one day making Marty Graul look small, and that's
going to be Heaven. God's got a great party plan
for us up there, and it's going to be fun, folks.
It's the Kingdom of God is going to be more
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fun than you can possibly imagine. And God wants you there.
He has sent you your invitation. It's called the Gospel,
and this is what it is. The Gospel is Christ
died for all your sins, according to the scripture, was
buried and rose from the dead to win for you
that precious, free gift of everlasting life. Except that invitation,
show up, show up for the Marti Graul in heaven
where we're going to have fun for all of etern.
Speaker 5 (52:54):
And on that note, thank you, And on that note, folks,
we're going to go in and instead of tears we
had it with waiting for trailer here on wr O
Needs at Talk ninety nine to five and the founder's show,
Ladies and Gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (53:08):
Here on the program, Ladies.
Speaker 5 (53:09):
And Gentlemen, armand Saint Martin and our own Hi McCanny
and Christopher Tadmore sign off when it comes to be
so bled.
Speaker 3 (53:17):
To drop it, even my young I'll wait ball Tree.
Speaker 15 (53:25):
It's reading them. I talked again to feel they think
I'm on the list, but they say I don't win.
Exist up bal My Tree, I said.
Speaker 8 (53:47):
To the Medes.
Speaker 1 (53:52):
And not just have to be.
Speaker 2 (53:57):
I'll cook.
Speaker 6 (53:58):
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!