Royce Duplessis' Late Entry Into NOLA Mayor's Race

The Founders Show comes to you from Colonial Williamsburg this week as Hy and Christopher discuss the importance of the 4th of July as the show begins They go on to examine the “Big Beautiful Bill”, its impacts, benefits like a $1000 deduction for nonprofits (even if you claim the standard deduction), and the likelihood that a Louisiana legislative special session will be called to make up for the loss of Medicaid dollars. Could you see another penny in sales tax here in the Pelican State to make up for the healthcare cuts?

Hy’s and Christopher’s main subject of the show, though, is the New Orleans Mayor’s race and the entrance of Royce Duplessis.  That leads us to ask the question… Will Royce Duplessis ‘Mandy-Landry’ Moreno?

He has to make it to the runoff first, but if the standing room only crowd at Central City’s Ashe Powerhouse Theatre provides any indication, Royce Duplessis might have a chance to both break into the 2025 mayoral runoff and outflank the likely liberal Caucasian candidate – as he did get elected to the state Senate.

In order to win, Duplessis must replicate the coalition that allowed him to best Democratic Rep. Mandy Landry in 2022. He must build a biracial coalition of African-American Democrats as well as white Republicans and Independents to outflank a prominent Caucasian challenger. His Senate district, which has more than 75,000 registered voters in Orleans Parish, is a good microcosm of the city – 48 percent are Black, 40 percent are Caucasian, and nine percent other. In fact, it’s a bit worse than the City of New Orleans for an African-American contender, which is 55 and 34 percent Black and white respectively. That Duplessis could carry a gentrified district, which under traditional political rules should have given a preference to a liberal white contender, speaks well of his chances in a citywide runoff.

Of course, the state senator first has to best Councilman Oliver Thomas and Judge Arthur Hunter in order to end up in a likely runoff with frontrunner Councilmember At-Large Helena Moreno. His announcement speech hinted exactly at Duplessis’ strategy to achieve that goal when he said, “The journey to tonight, to this very moment, started about 37 years ago on Press Drive in Pontchartrain Park.” The senator went on to recount a lesson which he learned as a 6-year-old football player, yet the subtle message that he grew up in the first desegregated neighborhood that was the home of so many subsequent civil rights leaders was not lost on the crowd. They cheered. The Creole candidate had arrived.

Duplessis appealed to the city’s wider working class base as well, noting that his opponents should have been more concerned about the 20,000 people who left Orleans rather than “where the mayor sleeps.” Then he doubled down on an obvious attack on Oliver Thomas (as well as Helena Moreno) with the words, “The next mayor of New Orleans cannot be someone who knows the system, but be willing to change the system.”

Reacting to the cost of living crisis, Duplessis pledged to build 40,000 affordable apartments and new homes just before he pledged an economic development mission to make the Port of New Orleans the largest in the world. It is a package uniquely suited to uniting the right and the left on the ideological spectrum.

"This city is being asked to settle,” he said of his opponents. “New Orleans will never become its greatest if we accept complacency,” he said, explaining that his impetus to jump into the contest came from the electorate’s general lack of excitement about the contenders. Duplessis freely admitted that he did not have the money his opponents have, the original reason he demurred from running six months ago. Nevertheless, he’s counting on the public’s desire for change to propel him into the runoff and into the mayor’s office.

Moreno is also expected to work across racial lines to secure 15

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Battles, the politicians addressed, the digit datas and magicians. Who's
to see the money? Then you don't. There's nothing to
fill the holes while there are filling their pockets, biles,
the politicians bouncing down the road. Every body's wition for

(00:30):
no moment, corruption and dysfunction. It's gonna take divide it
even is.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
A special session coming because of the passage of the
Big Beautiful Bill. Is Louisiana gonna face a massive deficit.
Thanks to the work of Mike Johnson and Steve Scalice
to get it past the finish line, and the mayor's
race took an interesting tactic with a brand new candidate,
will Royce Duplessis, Mandy Landry, Helena Moreno. That and a
few other issues on this edition of The Founder Show.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
And God bless all out there. You are now listening
to the Founders. So the voice of the founding Fathers,
your founding Fathers, coming to you deep within the bowels
of those mystic and cryptic alligator swamps of the Big
Easy that old Crescent City, New Orleans, Louisiana, and high
up on top of that old Liberty Cypress tree way

(01:22):
out on the Eagles branch. This is none other than
your Spngary Baba of the Republic, Chaplin High mceenry.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
With Christopher Tidmorey, you roving reporter, resident radical moderate, Associate
editor of the Louisiana Weekly newspaper at Louisiana Weekly dot net.
And Hi is joining us from the road. He's been
at a Bible conference as the entire country has been
looking at the big beautiful Bill, and here in New
Orleans we've been looking at the Mayor's Race. Where in
the world are you right now, High mcceenry.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Well, wait, wait, Christopher, of the Bible conference was a
few days ago. I am now down in one of
the greatest places, maybe the greatest place in America. If
you love America and you have a patriotic spirit and
you've never been to Jamestown, you're missing a lifetime experience.
I am at Jamestown, Williamsburg and Yorktown where it all happened. Christopher,

(02:13):
this is where the first of all things happened, the
first thanksgiven, this second Thanksgiving. The third one was course
up in Boston, you know, up in Plymouth with the Pilgrims,
But the first one was here in Jamestown, the second
was a Berkeley settlement just a little up from Jamestown.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
August celebrated Florida argues that they had the first one.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
You know, no, but they weren't one of the thirteen
college You're right about that. I say that all the time.
But remember of the thirteen colleagues, and they weren't one
of the thirteen colleges of the thirteen colonies. The first
one was in Jamestown, but really like fifty one hundred
years before that, they had one down in Saint Augustine.
Absolutely right, But because they weren't part of thirteen colleges,

(02:54):
that's why we can say we're the first Virginia.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
And I say we because I have so many my wife.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
And I have some of ancestors in Virginia from the
original Jamestown settlement that I feel very I've always felt
very connected.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Division.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
So you're at the Jamestown you're at the Jamestown Park
right now, and.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
No, no, right now, we're leaving Williamsburg and we're going
to Surrey County to find a long lost cousin.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Oh, excellent, excellent.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
Yeah, but you've been to Murray.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
You've you've been to Jamestown to Williams Colonial Williamsburg, which
is an absolutely spectacular place stern and of course Yorktown.
And so you're sort of living the dream of the
two hundred and forty ninth fourth of July.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
And not only that, you experience what our ancestors experienced.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
And you know what, if you just got off the
boat last year or.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Something, I don't care, and you're an American, this is
your heritage too, and you should get to know it.
It's so inspiring, Christopher, when you see what they had
to go against. The challenges they had, the disease is,
the wars, the deprivations, every thing they faced that would
have driven normal people fleeing. They stood and they held

(04:05):
on and they fought and they finally won.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
And it was It's an amazing story.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
It's Jamestown, all of them. I've been to many times,
but Jamestown always intrigues me because the death rate was
so high made New Orleans look healthy in comparison, and
uh it was.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Well, they were in a malaria infested swamped so they
was That's why they moved to Williamsburg. It finally got
tired of all the disease down in Jamestown, and that's
why they moved up to Williamsburg.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
Well once I felt it was a little safer from
the British.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
And I wonder to find and Jamestown has the first
American industry that was ever created because they couldn't figure
out how to make it profitable. And you can actually
go to it now. It was a glass Uh that's right, Yes,
they made.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Glass, and they've recreated that so you can see them
making the glass glass away. They made it back then.
I mean, these guys were amazing people of Christopher. They
faced such challenges. I really meant they had to be
extremely courteous when they got on that boat in England
where you know, France or wherever they were charming where
they're coming over. Most of their original settlers are from
most of the countries, primarily the British Isles, as we

(05:06):
all know. And this was an English colony, very English,
very British. And you see that when you go to Williamsburg,
because that's covering the period of right before the American Revolution,
and so you see the tremendous British influence and all
the you know, the great things about England and whatnot
that that was part of American act. I mean the
American people saw themselves as Englishmen. Yeah, very much englishman.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
I'll tell you. I'll tell you a story about Colonia Williamsburg.
I was there about twenty years ago, twenty twenty five
years ago, and it was close to the fourth of July.
In fact, I ended up spending the fourth of July
is exactly this time of year. I ended up spending
the fourth of July. I went to Yorktown and I
was there. I was the only visitor that was allowed

(05:50):
in because I came in a press pass. But the
day before I had been at Williamsburg. And I was,
and they have the reenactors there, and of course we
interviewed one of the reenacts who plays the Marquis de
Lafayette there, you know, but the gentleman, one of the
two gentlemen that played Jefferson. Every day they give one
of the speeches and see the Jefferson or Richard Henry

(06:13):
Lee or one of his and it was Jefferson. And
he opens up to questions in the crowd, and I asked,
and because Williamsburg is set in seventeen seventy five, and
I said, well, mister Jefferson, I know you're an adherent
of Locke and the Second Treatise on Government, where Locke says,

(06:35):
you know, every man has the right to life, liberty
and the pursuit of property, or as some people say,
it's happiness, and some people say that you should pin
a document that includes those themes, a declaration of rights,
a declaration of independence, and without saying work he stops
is oh, sir, sir, no, no, we're loyal subjects of
the king. We would never do this or because that's

(06:57):
the point a year before and it was how they
were still professing their loyalty to the king.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
They were struggling to stay part of England, but the
deprivations and the abuse and whatnot of the crown had
gotten so high it.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
Pushed them to revolution. It was just got to be
too much.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
And they were kind of following the footsteps of what
Virginia again had said as first one hundred years before
in sixteen seventy six vacant Fwabetia, where he had the
same thing of the royal governor abusing the colonists for
the benefit financial advantages he could get out of it,
and it was costing the lives of their women of everybody, men,

(07:36):
women and children, because he wouldn't do his job as
the commander of the militia. And so they did it themselves.
And when they did, then he declared them to be
rebels and had to be. They were going to hang
them over it. So then they came and they fought him.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
And it defeated him. It was like a little many
American revolution before we had it one hundred years before,
I mean Virginia.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
That's why there was an old saying, you know, America
as goes old dominion, I mean Virginia, so go to colonies.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
That was the kind of influence they had on on
this country.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
By the way, Ben Franklin had spent I don't know,
five or ten years before he came back to the colonies.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
He was the agent for Pennsylvania.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
The Union of you know that existed between England and
finally we It didn't work and he realized it was
old with nothing he could do. So and while he
was there doing that, he was declared a trader in
Boston and in New York, a trader against America because
he was fighting so hard to save the union. But
it just didn't work. There was no way to resolve it.
So he came back Sadden, but that's but definitely determined

(08:39):
to go with this the new route of liberty and independence,
and of course became one of the great star wars
of rollers.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Well, for those that are just joining us, hy mc
kenny and Christopher Tidmore are here with you in the
Founder show in WR and O and WSLA High is
actually just leaving colonial Williamsburg and we got to talk
a little politics. We got a little history in this,
but we got to talk about it history and of course.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Course for really quickly you go to williams Burg if
you can take two weeks, there's so much to see you.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
It really huge.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
It's the largest reenactment museum in the world. It takes
up about ten square city blocks or maybe more, and
it's got all of the old buildings sack two hundred
and fifty years ago exactly. It's stunning. It is amazing.
It is absolutely fabulous. It's an amazing experience. So it's

(09:33):
something if you have a patriotic interest. And the reason
you come here is because you've got James Son right
and York time you get all three levels.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Well, Hi, one of the things we do have to
turn to contemporary politics, and of course, the Big Beautiful
Bill managed to be passed prior to President Trump's July
fourth deadline. And one of the things that's interesting about
it is that there was the first thing I'd ever
seen in my life. Though it's not happen it has
happened several times, was a filibuster on the House side.

(10:04):
If you're one of the leaderships of the House, that's
the minority leader, majority leader, or speaker, you can speak
what's called the magic minute for as long and of
course Haikim Jeffers, the Democratic leader, spoke for eight hours
and forty four minutes without stopping, which is harder to
do than a Senate speech because you can't receive questions
deliberate the floor. But it also beat Kevin McCarthy, the

(10:27):
former Republican leader's record by about seven minutes. But the
final vote, two eighteen to two fourteen was pretty much
a gone decision before, you know, several hours before. And
one of the ways that it went through was there
were some high profile elements that have gotten a lot
of conservative criticism. For example, essentially the state and local

(10:49):
tax deduction won't just be increased to forty thousand, it
will be increased to forty one thousand, four hundred dollars
and then be able to be done on the corporate
side with no limits. So effectively we took an almost
trillion dollar cut. When people keep talking about the four
point three trillion, one trillion of that was essentially giveaways

(11:11):
that Trump had gotten rid of in the first term
to get this bill passed in the second with Republicans.
This is not Democrats. But of course a lot of
attention went in on the idea of what is going
to be happening to Medicaid dollars, and this was something
that was interesting. The idea was a lot of the
Medicaid funding Hi. It doesn't just fund individuals, it funds

(11:33):
hospitals and rural areas. And the fact of the matter
is they had a problem with Lisa Murkowski in the
Senate saying, look, you'll shut down most of our rural hospitals.
So they created a special rule hospital fund for Alaska,
and they had to do it for Hawaii, so basically
any state that was not contiguously connected to the United
States in order to get it past to the Senate parliamentarian.

(11:54):
But the thing that I found really fascinating about all
of this is the fact that a lot of people
think thought that Mike Johnson would do that for Louisiana,
and he wasn't able to. He was just trying to
get this bill through as fast as possible. His district
is one of the poorest rural districts in the United States.
For those that don't know, Mike Johnson essentially represents the

(12:16):
area you know, northwestern Louisiana, and he himself is trying
to to a lot of hospitals in his district are
facing closure. So one of the first things that will
come out about this bill is we're already hearing that
there will be a Louisiana special session that will determine
whether or not, you know, how to make up that money,

(12:38):
and you're going to see a lot of you're gonna
see a huge Louisiana deficit because people don't realize this,
but the Louisiana budget, what you and I you know,
what we actually spent on Louisiana is about four point
three billion dollars. The rest of it is the medicaid budget,
most of which we get from the FEDS. And if
you know, you have a choice of closing down these
hospitals are and make up the difference, you know, on

(13:01):
that end. So we may actually see Louisiana taxes go
up because of this bill. It's as much as somehow
a penny and sales taxes. So this there are implications
of these funding cuts that people haven't said. There is
some interesting the I will tell you this particular statistic.

(13:21):
The the the Immigration Service ICE Immigration Customs Enforcement will
now have a budget. It's that will be more. It's
seventy five billion dollars. It will be more than the FBI,
the federal prison system, and the US marshals absolutely combined.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
Wow, it is. Well, that's how bad the problem is.
And that's the problem that was created.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
By the Democratic Party when they let in, well now
that I'm hearing up to twenty five million illegal.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
Aliens, Well, but let me say this is this is
a serious problem.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Well, but I'm gonna I'm gonna say something.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
I meant, I'm in twenty five million.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, I was say twenty five billion. That was that
would be incredible to accomplishing. But I'm saying Trump has
actually succeeded in closing the borders. That's if you notice
there's there was one. I mean it was it was
literally that low it was. And this is one of
the things that that kind of confused me about the bill.
Forty six point five billion dollars will be directed to

(14:20):
construction of seven hundred and one miles of the wall,
nine hundred miles of river barriers, six hundred and twenty
nine miles secondary barriers, one hundred and forty one miles
of pedestrian barriers. Now, the reason why I'm saying all
that is fine, I don't really don't. I've never really
cared about building a wall. But there is one interesting
thing in that budget is a huge billions of dollars

(14:42):
to build roads to the border to build the wall. Now,
if you are someone who is trying to jump the wall,
you have two choices. Right now, there is no wall,
but you have to go through, in most cases, really
horrendous desert to get anywhere, which people die in. Now,
we're going to build a wall. It's not going to
like have explosives or spikes on the top. It's just

(15:03):
a wall.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
And we've brought a nice little road that they can
walk or get picked up on.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
And I'm like, I'm looking at this, I'm saying there
is a.

Speaker 5 (15:12):
Lot of logic about this, because we've just basically made
it easier, not tougher, to be able to get across
the border by spending more money.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Okay, let me explain a why that's not a good picture.
Let me tell you why. Okay, I did this in
the military, all right. The reason one reason we need
a wall, especially in these desolate areas, is because they
come in with fast moving vehicles shooting across the desert
or whatever, and they get right up to the wall
or in this case, there's no wall, and they sometimes

(15:42):
they cross the boundary, or they just dump them all
out there and they run into the country. If you
have a wall, it stops them. Sure, they can cut
a hole in the wall and dog, but it slows
them down enough for our visuals and our reaction, our
QRF to get in there and get them.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
And stop them. That's why you need a wall, and
that's why it's important.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Well, and I would argue that somebody's walking that that
this this could cause as many problems as it solves.
But I'm also kind of curious. Forty six billion dollars
is a lot of money. That's a lot of what
we could have plugged for rural hospitals. The budget that
was created to make up rule hospitals in Alaska was
twenty five billion, So that gives you a kind of
an idea.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
But christ for the billions that we're spending for extra
medical care and everything else, schooling, now it's for all
the illegals. What happens if we can take that money
and put it back into here. How about a bill
for this, a monetary bill for funding these just a
bill just for that funding the world hospitals.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Because they can't and here's why you're allowed to have
a reconciliation bill, and you cannot. You have to cut
elsewhere to make it up unless you get to send
it filibuster.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
They're going to cut all the medical costs and everything.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Here's here's here's here's here's.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
The five star hotels and all the great things. Okay,
giving them all the money?

Speaker 4 (17:00):
What is that? How about taking that money and giving
it to.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
The hot Here's here's the thing. Let me let me
get right down to it. Most of that operations for
those uh what the the the hotel budgets that we
keep hearing about, that's being paid for by the states,
not the federal government and the money for that, No, no.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
Let me, let me let me states for the federal
government funds of states.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
No, No, it doesn't that. What's happened is there that
money is already being diverted, and I can give you
a good example about it. It's called the Alligator Alcatraz.
The Alligator Alcatraz is being funded out of what's called
it's what's it's being funded by what's called the FEMA
Supply and Housing budget, and that is is FEMA dollars.

(17:41):
And that's why I've got a lot of people who
are kind of worried that this is diverting disaster dollars.
But it's using the budget that had existed. That budget
was what we're talking about about, what was housed illegal immigrants.
That entire budget is being used now for detention center.
So you can't you can't take you spend the money twice.
That's where the money you were talking about was going,

(18:02):
and that's where it's happening. And so when I'm getting
into this, all is that right now, thanks to Trump,
thanks to what he's doing, we don't have an illegal
immigrant problem because there's nobody coming into the borders because
they know they're gonna deported in a second. So I mean,
that's that's.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
The Trump's flow.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
We've stopped the flow, but we still have twenty five
million that are in the country and we have to
resolve that problem.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
They're the ones who are bleeding us to death.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Finally, But you're saying that brilliing is, you're saying that blist.
But every statistic that I've ever seen high and I'm
willing to open if you had different statistics, has said basically,
I mean, it's one thing when you're talking about criminals,
and there are criminals, but that's less than four percent
of the entire amount.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
And I know that. And let me let me give
you a full picture of how sea and how if I.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Do you have any numbers?

Speaker 4 (18:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, No.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
What I would do if I was king for a day, Okay,
First of all, get all the all the bad guys
out right, U tell the sex perverts, the criminals, they said,
the gangs, all of them, get them all up, all right,
that's good. I don't know anybody who wants to argue
with that, although the Democrats seem to love these criminals.
But the the what I do with the rest of
the christ. What I do with the rest of them.

(19:15):
I give them a chance to self deport. A lot
of their countries are going to provide help for them
when they get home if they want to do that
if they don't, And this is what I think.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
We need to do.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
We need to get every one of them documented so
we know who they are and where they are and
how to deal with them, and then give them a
path to citizenship. They have to learn English, they have
to learn, you know, the basics of what America is,
the Constitution, et cetera. And they have to show that
they're good citizens.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
And Christ for people are good people.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
I would be glad to have them as neighbors and citizens.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
I know them very well. They're good people, and I
have not a person have nothing against them.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
I like them, and you know what, I think they
make great Republican voters because they've got Republican values, They've
got good family values.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
Uh, they don't sit well with the Democratic Party party.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Thank you, George W. Bush that this is exactly what
I believe, and I agree with you. Unfortunately it's not
it's it's not what the Trump administration is pushing right now,
which is essentially there is no path to citizenship.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
What's a water man. Trump keeps saying, we got to
think about these farmers. We got to think about these
guys and factories and where these where the illegals are
are working and provide and you know, doing good for
the country. He says, if we take all these people out,
it can bankrupt the pharmacy degrees everything else. And he says,
we got to remember that. We can't just go on
there and everybody what has been saying, he's been saying

(20:38):
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Well, he's been saying no, no, he's been saying it.
But if you look at the most recent ice raids.
I know, as you know, my family, my cousins have
a large farm pomegranates, and it's seven thousand acres in California,
and they've relied on on migrant workers for decades. And
there are ice raids going on right now rule America.

(21:00):
There's very places you're talking about. And it's not just there,
it's all over the countries. But no, but here's that's
not what's happening. High, it's not what's the what's actually
happening is.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Okay, how many how many good hard working Hispanish family people,
you know, all the good things.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
How many of them have been I didn't think any
of them have been deported?

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Actually yes, no, no, high.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
For you know how long it's going to deport all
if they try to deport them, you know it's gonna.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Take It would take twenty years. My point, my point
is why there's there has been if you're if you're
watching us, there has been a myriad of stories of people,
and not just anecdotal stories of thousands who have no
criminal record, who have been here since childhood. He could
happen in Mettery with a lady just about two things

(21:51):
who has an American husband and American children and has
lived here for thirty seven years and was just deported.
Come on, it's it's not like for what I see
what Trump is saying, and I see where he's trying
to thread the needle, and it's reasonable what he's saying,
believe or not to get rid of the criminals and
keep the others here. That is not actually what is happening.

(22:12):
What is ICE is making indiscriminate raids and with this
money they have where they will be better funded than
the entire security infrastructure of the United States. Domestically FBI.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Atf Okay, the way I understand is the primary goal
of the criminals and the cartels, and it's going to
take if they just focus only on that, it's going
to take tet.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
They're not focused. Okay, look, here's the thing. They're not
just focusing on that. That's the problem, and or when
we have it, we wouldn't be having this. But the
bill has various other areas. There's of course the no
tax on tips. It's not exactly that, but it's close
to it. The no tax on over time. It's basically
twenty five thousand dollars reductions. It does institute you'll be

(22:58):
interested in this pastor, and this bill will allow people
who do not itemize deduct who actually use the standard
deduction and the taxes, to also deduct up to one
thousand dollars in charitable deductions. Great, so that means your deductions,
if you're smart, will go up because you know people.
One of the things that happens is it only makes

(23:19):
sense if you're giving money that's above your standard deduction,
that'll be in part of it. At the same time,
there's a lot of economic questions on some of the
some of these tax deductions, unlike marginal income tax deductions,
don't have the payback what's called the Laffer curve, the
supply side elements. So whether you need not all tax deductions,

(23:40):
let me give you a little Reaganesque argument, ladies and gentlemen.
Not all tax deductions are created equal. When you lower
marginal income taxes, when you lord as, you're actually creating
a most for investment. When you're giving tax deductions and
things that are good things that I agree with, like
a child tax credit. That's good for society, but it

(24:00):
doesn't make you money. On the other end, it doesn't
pay you back, it doesn't create more economic development. It
just makes families easier. It's not that these things are bad.
It's just that these deficits that are created. The salt tax,
it helps the middle class. You know, this is being
able to duct your state taxes on your federal taxes.
It helps the middle class. But the fact of the

(24:21):
matter is there's a lot that was put into this bill,
and there's a reason why people on the right were
very had a lot of problems with it because if
they had just extended the first term Trump tax cuts,
which were actually pretty well designed they would and not
added all this other stuff in it, they would have
the projected deficit over ten years would have been two

(24:44):
point three trillion as opposed to four point three trillion,
two trillion dollars more. There'ing a billion more in spending
them along with a lot of these exceptions that are
just not positive for the economy. It's positive for you know,
Trump's voters, I suppose, but it's not a negative. And
we this is creating a debt that we're going to

(25:05):
have to pay, and not just in the future. This
is the point we're getting noticed that Governor Jeff Landry
is now pushing to have a special session that would
be probably right after Labor Day, maybe before. He's looking
at the session call. And the major thing is the
Louisiana deficit. We were about one hundred million dollars in
surplus here in Louisiana. Not a huge surplus, but a

(25:27):
comfortable amount. The cuts to medicaid in this budget are
going to put us to a at least a five
to seven hundred million dollar deficit. That is, let me
translate that that's one penny in sales tax. That is
serious money. And here's one of the things that about it. Morally, intellectually,

(25:51):
I haven't ever some of the cuts never made sense
to me because they didn't make sense from a practical
standpoint of how you administer them. Like I don't have
a problem with the idea that you should have a
job or volunteer twenty hours a week to have health insurance.
I never had a moral problem with that. What I
had a problem with is the fact that in order

(26:11):
to classify that, based on the rules and this bill,
you would actually have to go on a website each
month and never forget and never fall behind, and you
have to have an entire staff to administer and check
on all of that, because if the person doesn't do it,
or if it gets cut, you've created this bureaucracy that
may not save that much money unless they're just simply

(26:34):
kicking people who actually qualify for health care off it.
And my thing that really bothered me about this bill,
one of the things Medicaid had done in the expansion
back under Obama was if you were a stay at
home parent, and you basically could qualify for Medicaid not
just your kids, but you until your kids turned eighteen. Now,

(26:55):
according to some records, in the final bill. It's seven
years old. That means that parents when their kids turn
eight could lose it. Now they were trying and the
final sets of amendments to raise that to fourteen. I
hope to god it went through because here's the fact,
even though they read the entire bill on the floor,
we still don't know everything that's in this bill. It

(27:16):
was done so quickly. And this was the thing if
you remember that Republicans were criticizing Democrats for yeah, and
it's just and it's kind of one of those unfair things.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
It was Biden's big bill call.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
He put to the Chips Act, the Chips Act. This
does repeal some they That's interesting because some of the
Chips Act, which was the green energy things. One of
the ways the Senate originally wanted to restrict it is
basically say all the credits would expire by September thirtieth.
They came to a compromise because of a lot of

(27:50):
industries that it would be extended for another year, so
they won't expire until twenty twenty seven. But that alone
was two hundred and fifty billion dollars to try to
get through get the bill through the Senate. I mean
part of it.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
You know.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
One of the reasons why you had people like Rand
Paul look at this and say, wait a second, this
is not a great piece of legislation was because we
raised the debt limit so much in this he needed
to go up in August, but we raised it now
for the next three years. We basically committed to borrow
another five trillion dollars and for the Party of Fiscal

(28:26):
Responsibility of the GOP, that is not a really good look.
And Rand Paul made a very valid point about this. Look.
They're good things in the bill. I like the fact
that the taxes aren't going up high. I like the
fact that we're maintaining it when we're facing a recession.
I've not had the moral opposition that some people had
to that. I've never met a tax cut in general

(28:47):
I don't like. But I also saw that there was
very little interest in finding other ways to try to
make up the money and not just cuts, finding other
funding sources. One of the in the first term, Paul
Ryan and he was speaker, went to Donald Trump and
he says, I've got a way that we can cut
income taxes even further than thirty seven percent. We could
cut it down to a flat tax of twenty And

(29:08):
one of his ideas was to get rid of the
corporate income tax and replace it with a value added tax.
And Trump shot it down, saying, that's a sales tax. Well,
so is a tariff. Like it or hate it? A
tariff as a sales tax. That's all it is. It's
just a sales tax and things coming into the country.
So I always found it kind of strange that Trump
likes sales tax over the right and hated it over

(29:29):
the left. That alone, that one change would make us
more competitive for manufacturing and at the same time would
raise enough taxes that we could probably cut income taxes
down to a maximum twenty percent rate. And so I mean,
and that was brought forward in the negotiation this bill.
And guess what Trump says, No, I don't like it.
I don't want to be the guy saying I'm raising
sales taxes. Well he is the guy who's raising sales

(29:52):
taxes for better or for worse. That's exactly what he
did with jariffs.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
So anyway, well, yeah, well, yeah, it's going to be
this is just beginning.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
I'm very interested in seeing how it plays up.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
We become Nancy Pelosi, we got to pass the bill.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
Tails as they say.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, we'll see Nancy Pelosi. We've got to pass the
bill and know what's in it. Anyway, folks, right, right, right,
that's exactly what we just did, folks, when we come back.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
I mean, I guess some of these guys, I hope
they studied it.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Good luck with that. These guys are so sleep deprived,
try to get this through. They're lucky if they can
say their own names.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
But look, the thing is, they have a full time staff,
supposedly brilliant young folks who each get a portion of
the bill, and they're experts on and they rethrough study.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
The bill was four thousand pages and it's been going
for less than a week in its current form. I mean,
I don't I don't care how big.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
I mean, he's got ten staff people. That's that's four
in a phages per person.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
They can get through that, sure they can, but it's
this is not what we call reasonable regular order in
the Congress. I mean, trying to pass something.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
I mean, come on, yeah, but I mean the DVD
has been around for a month or two now.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Right, the original version. It changed so much in the
Senate that it bears one. Yeah, they were. Actually actually
that's where the changes were. So this is the part.
This is a popy on this essentially the original bill.
The way it started was essentially, we will continue the

(31:24):
Trump tax cuts, and we will put in these credits
for it was. It was. It was the twenty five
thousand dollars credit for tax on tip, twenty five thousand
dollars credit for overtime, and it was. It was actually
a pretty it wasn't concise, but it was a couple
hundred pages. And so what is the four thousand pages?

Speaker 5 (31:45):
Here's the crap they've added in the last thing. That's
exactly what happened. So I hate to tell you that
is precisely what happened. So why nobody knows what the
heck is happening? So anyway, it's on that note, we
got to come back. A major thing happened while you've
been gone high. If you hadn't know, the entire New
Orleans mayors race changed. Oh really, So Royce Duplessis.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Who he's been on this program with us many times,
who six months ago said he wasn't gonna run, decides
on Sunday he's gonna run because there's so little, as
he put it, enthusiasm, and he jumped in. I went
to his announcement at the Ashay Powerhouse on Tuesday, five
hundred people packed in a room on forty eight hours notice.

(32:27):
And suddenly we're gonna pose the question. Can Royce Duplessis,
Mandy Landry, Helena Moreno? And if you know what I
just explained, we'll explain what it means after the break.
You know how interesting this New Orleans mayors race may
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Speaker 2 (35:07):
With Christopher Tidmore and ladies and gentlemen, we are I'm
in studio, but High's on the road. He's just been
in Colonial Williamsburg this fourth of July weekend and you've
been away from some of the fire and let me
set this up for those that don't know the New
Orleans mayor's race. For a what had looked like it
was pretty set. Councilman Oliver Thomas, judge, author Hunter, Helena Moreno,

(35:29):
and everybody. I've been predicting to you high on this
program that there was going to be another candidate. I
didn't know who it was. This wasn't like I had
secret knowledge. But what I was seeing was that people
were just discontented. They liked Oliver Thomas, but he was
a convicted felon. Frankly, Author Hunter is a little to
the left of most people. Is a very nice guy,

(35:49):
very smart guy, but he is. And Helena Moreno, frankly,
wasn't connecting with the white community. L she was running
a very traditional sort of liberal democratic camp pain that
was to the left of where even most African Americans.
She was trying to say, or she's a very hard
working council person. This is not a personal attack on her,
it's just it's a fact. She'd actually no longer had

(36:12):
a local consultant. She'd had some National Democratic firm to
put her national Democratic consultant. So I kept saying, there's
a room for a more centrist candidate. An African American candidate.
But I didn't think it was going to be Royce Duplessus,
because Royce Duplessus was the guy everybody wanted to run. He,
of course, is the senator who represents the Garden District,
most of Uptown broad More, Central City, a little bit

(36:34):
into Jefferson Parish, but about seventy five thousand of the
most populous, richest parts of New Orleans. He is a
very moderate Democrat, and he came out and on Sunday
I get a text message I'm running, and it'd sent
us we're having an announcement Tuesday night, where I changed
my mind and he comes out and I go into
the Ashay Powerhouse Theater. For those that haven't been, it's

(36:56):
right off O. C. Halley, the Old Dryad Street. It's
a fantastic theatrical space. It's a black box and it's big,
and you could not forget the size of crowd. You
couldn't move. There were so many people. There were at
least five to six hundred people who came there on
less than you know, I would say, you know, two

(37:17):
days notice, really a day's notice. Place was packed to
the gills. Signs were made, the signs look really good.
They were they looked like New Orleans flags and he
and royster Pleases came out with his family and he
immediately he didn't play it. He immediately came out and
and and actually said something that was kind of and
I'll play this real quick for the audience, kind of

(37:38):
attacking his opponents. It's uh, and it was. It was
really aggressive. And you'll you'll hear the words, folks, architects.

Speaker 6 (37:48):
Of chaos, helping to fracture the city, watched our people leave,
stayed silent while trust between people.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
And their government in Roman.

Speaker 6 (38:01):
Right now, we're facing an inconvenient truth about leadership. There's
been a gross lack of respect, a lack of unity,
a failure of tone and of temperament. No one stepped
up to clean the temperature. That's right, to stop the division,

(38:22):
the attacks, the finger point. Instead of leadership, we got
loud voices reporting problems.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
And small fing Yeah, that's right, but that's not who
we are.

Speaker 6 (38:36):
We're a city that's always known struggle but also known
how to come together.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
And what he does Hi, just so you understand, is
after he comes to those comments, he talks about the
fact that Orleans Parish has lost twenty thousand residents in
the last ten years. We got up to like three
hundred and eighty thousand decade after Katrina, and now we're
down to three hundred and sixty two thousand. And they
didn't go to Jefferson or Sint Tammany left the completely
left the region. And he said, you know, his point was,

(39:05):
he said, everybody was very concerned about where the mayor slept,
and nobody was talking about the fact that our young
people are leaving. And it was a very powerful statement.
His campaign platform, it's it's there's multi areas, but it
basically boils down to two major things. Build forty thousand
affordable either rental units, but also houses that people can

(39:27):
buy in the city. He said, we built eighty thousand
after Katrina, we can build forty thousand now. And on
the other hand, he said, I want to make the
Port of New Orleans the largest port on planet Earth
and the most successful. And he says that we don't
invest in the port is just insane, and that AUTIORI
focus of us and having all the others you've been
how many times have you said that on this program?

(39:48):
And so the reason I'm not saying this to endorse
Royce dupless Us. What I'm saying is he kind of
has hit a place in this race, that is that
plays it. On the one hand, he has a constituency
of here's how he won his state senatec he was
state representative, and he ran against a lady by the

(40:08):
name of Mandy Landry. She's been on our show. Very
nice lady, very smart lady, but she's kind of left
a center, very articulate though, but white. And she was
running in the fifth Senatorial district, which is forty eight
percent white, forty eight percent black, forty percent white, which
means that a liberal Democrat should probably be able to
win if they're white. And he comes in and he

(40:28):
runs to the right of her, and he's not a conservative,
but he was running to much more as a centrist,
and he manages to get white Republicans on his side,
a few Democratic moderates and African Americans, and he wiped
the floor with her. Well, the reason why I'm bringing
up that race, and you can look at more in
the description that we post on iHeart, where I write
about this in detail on Louisiana Weekly, and I'll post

(40:50):
that story on here, is that he is in a
unique position to do exactly what he did to Mandy
Landry to Helena Moreno, because it's essentially the same candidacy,
and essentially the breakdown if he makes a runoff. How
does he make a runoff? He has to get past
Oliver Thomas and who's far ahead in the polls. I
mean Royce to press this at a poll that a

(41:12):
year ago is at nine percent. He's not well known
outside of a Senate district, even though that's one third
of the voters in Orleans Parish. But he himself is
kind of running to the right of both Thomas and Hunter,
and at the same time is palatable to Democrats and
to Republicans. Is it is a totally new mayor's race

(41:33):
than where it was, you know, two weeks ago. It
is a it has suddenly become an incredibly competitive race.
He let's just be fair. Duplessis has even less money
than he would have had six months ago, and so
he will be outspent ten to one by Moreno. But
the fact is part of the reason he jumped in
is Author Hunter, who had actually announced the day before,
but he's been a candidate for six months. Hunter doesn't

(41:56):
have any money. Thomas has not really done a great
job raised money. And so it's kind of one of
these things with qualifying this coming week that the mayor
of New Orleans might be you know, it might be
a toss up, but who becomes mayor. But it's a
totally new race than what we expected.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Wow, well, Chris, so this is getting interesting then all
we're getting an interesting pot of gumbo here.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
We really are.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
I mean, it really is. And and I'll see we're
gonna We're gonna see more. We're gonna have each of
the candidates on. We're actually you and I and this
is our big announcement, are moderating a debate on August fourteenth,
and we're gonna we're gonna tape it for the radio show.
But it is a debate that the general public will
be invited to to get their questions. Uh, Elena Moreno

(42:44):
and Oliver Thomas have already said. I've invited Royce to
Plassus and author Hunter and it will it's done by
the Crime Fighters Organization who've done debates with many times
earth may Grade. But you and I will have it on.
We'll have the mayor old candidates and more importantly, the
people in our our audience can show up. It'll be
at six pm at twenty seven to twenty seven Pritannia.

(43:05):
That's where the Garden District Bookshop is. But if you've
ever been inside the rink this you can hold up
to five hundred people. We're going to have people come
in and ask questions of the candidates and we'll run
the good questions on the air along with their statements,
and we'll let the public decide on August fourteenth, that
is a Thursday, just a little you know, basically two

(43:27):
weeks basically just about six weeks from now, in about
six weeks before the primary election, and so and let
the public decide who is the best candidates from ayor
and we'll have them all on in one place.

Speaker 4 (43:39):
A Hi.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
You gotta admit that a lot of people were really
kind of just sort of blaw discontented that Dupless has
had a point that a lot of people weren't really
excited about this mayor's race before he jumped in. I
don't know if he's the answer, but a lot of
people have been sort of like, ugh, this is what
we got.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
Yeah, of course, so we'll make a quick point for
a little bit of time we have left. And that
is and I've said it before, but for those who
haven't heard it, New Orleans we sit at the greatest
watershed of wealth in the world. Every day we have
more wealth coming past us, going up river and down
river than any other place in the world, and every
day we let it all pass us by.

Speaker 4 (44:13):
If we had the kind of.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
Port we should have, we would be capturing that wealth,
not to steal it, but to enhance it. We would
have factories, we would have whatever going on to be
part of the game, the money game, so to speak,
and bring that wealth into our city.

Speaker 4 (44:30):
But it's not what we're doing. We just let it passes.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
I don't know if it's a corp, politicians or what
it is, but it's it's one of the greatest wastes
in America today and it's a dog on shame for
our city. So I hope the pleasant that's what he's thinking,
and he's he's on that tack and it could really
bring a financial and a cultural revival to our city.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
Let's hope it happens.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Well, we're going to ask him when we have him
on the air. But folks, we got to take a
break and when we come back, we have the patriotic
moment and the spiritual moment with Chaplain high. Right after
these important ysess just stay taken more of the founder,
show recor.

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Speaker 3 (46:51):
Well, folks are back in this Chaplinhi mcgenry, and it
is now time for us to go into our chaplain. Bye,
bab patriotic moment. We just take a brief moment to
remind you of the Biblical founders for our country, our
Judeo Christian jurisprudence thought. I talk about an attorney, a
famous attorney, perhaps one of the most famous attorneys ever
in the history of Americans. One of the greatest trial
attorneys of his day. If you needed a good attorney,

(47:12):
you hired him wherever you were from anywhere in the
thirteen Colonies, and he would go law. He had a
law book, and he would travel. His name was Patrick Henry,
and Patrick Henry said this about America. And he said
this cannot be too overly emphasized or often stated. This
was in regard to a question, how did America succeed
against overwhelming odds. There was no way ourly the Thirteen

(47:34):
Colonies could have ever defeated the great British Empire and
the greatest military of the time and the greatest navy
at the time. It's just impossible. And yet we had
a resounding victory. It was hard, we took a lot
of losses. It was an enormous struggle, but in the
end we won, and we won hands down.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
How did we do it?

Speaker 3 (47:50):
No one could understand, no one could explain it. And
this is what Patrick Henry said. He said, this cannot
be too overly emphasized or often stated. America was not
successful but because of religion or by a religionist hmm.
He said, America was successful because of its devout, redeeming
faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, the redeemer of this world. Folks,

(48:13):
right there we can see Patrick Henry knew that God
needed to be in the middle of America, and God
was the foundation of our jurisprudence. Remember he was a great,
one of the greatest jurists of his day. And he
gave us another clue into his understanding about God in
the Bible. He understood grace because you see, he said
it was not religion or by religious where religion is
man working his way to heaven, man helping Jesus out

(48:35):
on the cross, or whatever you know, however you want
to say it or see it, you see true Christianity
and truth. Saving faith is when you cannot help yourself.
You're completely helpless and hopeless without God. As we now
go into our chapelain by by a gospel moment, the
scripture says, for we've been saved by grace. That word
means free gift. It means just plain and simply a gift.

(48:56):
We've been saved by a gift. You don't pay for
a gift you can earn, you don't work for it.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
It's free.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
You've been saved by grace to faith. Now you need
free will to get it right. You got to take it.
If you don't take it, you don't get it. We've
been saved by grace through faith. Faith is how you
take it. That's when you believe it's true for you.
That's how you get make your free will choice for God.
We've been saved by grace through faith. And even that
is not of ourselves. See, we're not even good enough

(49:23):
to create enough faith in us. It is a gift
from God. Even our faith comes as a gift, and
the Bible says God gives the word of faith to
every human being in this world. We've been saved by
grace to faith. And even that is not of ourselves.
It is a gift of God, not of works, lest
any man should boast. You see, Old Patrick Henry really
understood that when he made that statement. He said not.

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He said, it can't be said too much, to emphasize
too much. He said, it's so important. So folks, it
goes like this. There's a couple of things you need
to know about all this, very few enough that a
child can understand it. It's that simple Genus said, unless
you come as a little child, you shall know wyes
enter in to heaven. These are the fuse little simple

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things you need to do. You need to know that
God loves you. The Bible says he loves you with
an everlasting love. You need to know that you got
a big love problem, and it's broken up into two things.

Speaker 4 (50:12):
One is.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
Sin that cuts love off and the other thing is death,
and that's your final cutting off of love. And that
means the second death is what we're referring to here
with the Bible's referring to here, Well, what about your
sin problem? Jesus took care of that God, the Son,
perfect God, and perfect Man, all the way God and

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all the way man. He came to this earth to
be fully human, so he could take care of a
fully human problem, and that is sin. And he did
it when he died on the cross, for all of
your sins, all of our sins, from the day we're born,
of the day we die, from our tiniest to our
greatest sins, they all went on the Lord Jesus Christ.
And the Bible says he was turned into that sin,
that then he might give you his righteousness. Isn't that?

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I don't know how you can find a great message
of love to be turned into the sin of the universe,
of the whole world. How could anybody, even I couldn't
take one sin? He took it all. And that was
just half the job done. The other halves take care
of our death problem. He did that when he rose
from the dead to win for each and every one
of us had precious free gift of resurrection, everlasting life.

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Now there are two things you have to do to
get this, And I already mentioned one. You have to repent,
and word repentance means you quit trusting in yourself. It's
part of your faith. It's just a function of faith.
When you believe you cannot save yourself, you're hopeless and
helpless without God, destined to a burning hell. Guess what,
you just repented. It all takes place in your mind.
It's an attitude, a hard attitude. If you will, when

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you know you're such that big of a loser and
you cannot help yourself, much less help Jesus on the cross.
You're never going to do that.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
So just give up.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
Quit trusting in yourself. Quit thinking you can be so greated,
you can do something to some kind of way help
you get in heaven. You cannot. And the moment you
realize that, you just repent it. Next step put faith alone,
in Christ alone, believe that he really did die for
all your sins, was buried and rose from the dead.
And the scripture says, when you do that, bingo, you're in.
You're God's child forever. He puts in the pall of

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his hand. You can never get away. Jeeves said, my
father puts them in his hand. You can't escape. And
he says I'm put you in the poem in my hand.
You can't escape. He's got a double grip on your folks,
How are you gonna get away from that? And aren't
you glad you can't get away from it? Which you
want to get away from it and go to Hell?
I don't. I hope you don't either. You don't want
to go to hell? Folks, it's too hard for me
to even describe. It's so terrible. As impossible it is
for me to describe the glory, the beauty, the wonderfulness,

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the love that's in heaven. That's impossible for me to
fully describe it. It's so great. But it's just as
hard for me to describe how terrible Hell is, because.

Speaker 4 (52:41):
It's so terrible.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
It's beyond my ability to understand. The depths of the powers,
and the suffering and the evil of hell. Where there's
no love, where there's no goodness, there's nothing good in hell.
Everything bad gets thrown into hell. All devils, all sin,
all death gets thrown into Hell. And tragically, some people,
men and women who reject God, they reject God to

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the very end of their lives. They spurned His love
to the very end, and then there's only one place
for them to go, a place where God is not.
It's called hell. And so when God throws their sins in,
their sin drags them in with them to be consumed
in hell forever, where it never ends. A torment never ends,
it says, forever and ever and ever. The smoke of
the torment goes up forever and ever and ever, the

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scripture says, folks, don't go there. Believe right now with
all your heart that Jesus really did die for all
your sins, was buried and rose and the dead. The
scripture says. Now today is a day of salvation, like
the old country said, don't wait till it's too late. Well, folks,
it's time for us to go. As we close of
the Mond, Saint Martin singing a Creole goodbye and God
bless all out there.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
Does this have to be the end of the NLD.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
You know I love you.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
In the pamal land, I can.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
See across some million stars.

Speaker 4 (54:02):
When I look at you, we can mosey.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
It's the same time.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
I suppose you couldn't call in the crowd.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
If we take just a little a little longer to
see Algo calling Crego