Start of Louisiana Legislative Session & Is VAT The Answer To Tariffs & Deficits?

Hy and Christopher begin this week’s program talking about the 2025 legislative session.  We kick off ruminating about over the Port of New Orleans seeking to build a container terminal in St. Bernard Parish—an issue coming up in the State House Transportation Committee on Wednesday.  The concept is deeply unpopular amongst the residemts of Violet and Chalmette, but Port Nola officials are undaunted.  The catch is that Plaquemine Parish wants to build a container port right across the river, and it’s very popular there. Plaquemine’s port authority proposed to the Port of New Orleans to become 50-50 partners in that West Bank venture. So far their plea been rejected.
Then Hy and Christopher move on to one of the more controversial bills this year’s fiscal session, House Bill 609, which would impose a new stormwater fee on city properties. The fee would be regulated by the Public Service Commission, an elected body that oversees utilities around the state. The city’s Sewerage and Water Board funds its drainage operation chiefly through property taxes, but agency leaders have long said the taxes — which generate about $75 million annually — aren't enough.
State Rep. Mandie Landry, D-New Orleans, discussed the bill with both the S&WB and Gov. Landry, but said she is filing it independently. S&WB Executive Director Ghassan Korban has stumped for a drainage fee but also said this week he did not ask Landry to file the bill.  “We need a functioning Sewerage and Water Board. It needs to be less political,” Landry said.  Korban pledged to this radio show that no homeowner would receive a higher fee than they are currently paying in property taxes after the homestead exemption.  Some disagree of this will ultimately be the case.
Interestingly, the service fee would allow S&WB to put a fee on city buildings, nonprofits, universities, churches, and (most interestingly) the federal government.    If the bill passes in the current sessiom, the commission could enact a fee without City Council or voter approval, as the S&WB is a state agency. Landry said she’s still researching if the state can unilaterally impose the fee, but it “makes sense” to do so if possible. However, City Council President JP Morrell called the idea "completely silly," since, in his view, it violates a city charter provision designating the council as the city's sole utility regulator. “I don't know how you plan on, as a legislator, letting the PSC come into the city and begin to regulate us without getting the consent of citizens,” Morrell told the daily paper..  Since S&WB Is actually a state agency, the PSC would have primary authority, but it goes against over a 150 years of regulatory practice in the Crescent City.
We talk about originalism versus textualism in the Supreme Court looming review of “birthright citizenship”.  The case might come down to the vote of Justice Amy Coney Barrett of Metairie, who cares less about original intent, and more about what the amendment actually says.
Finally, Hy and Christopher ask if a “VAT is the Tariff/Deficit Answer”.
Medicaid and Obamacare are both under siege thanks to a deficit situation that is (in part) because of bills coming due from the pandemic, and in part from the Republican congressional delegation’s determined to renew and expand the Trump tax cuts. At the same time, tariffs loom which are certain to boost prices by at least 15 percent, if not even higher.
Republicans refuse to back down on income tax cuts, as the recently passed budget blueprint mandates, reasoning that only a continued tax regime favorable to the markets will arrest the slide into recession. Meanwhile, Democrats refuse to acknowledge that even if Congress let every 2017 tax cut expire, the nation’s entitlement programs would still run into dangerous deficits. Not without justification, they accuse the GOP of wanting to cut benefits; however, Democrats do not offer a funding plan to shore

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Bat holes, kindlititians, the trest of digitators and magicians whos
to see the money they don't. There's nothing to fill
the holes while then fill in their pockets, bid holes,
the politicians bouncing down the road. Every body's should for

(00:24):
no moment, corruption and its functional. It's gonna take divideven.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
The legislative session is underway, and there's some major tax
changes that are coming. But if you are interested in
property taxes for the suagean waterboard in Orleans, you're going
to find something very unusual that maybe end up in
your tax bills.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
We'll talk about that.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
We'll also talk about a potential answer to the tariff situation,
which nobody likes but is a lot better than what
we have and could actually help shore up the federal
budget and avoid cuts in Medicaid and the Hordable Care Act,
which several Republicans are repeating from Trump on. And we're
going to also look a little bit further field in

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the upcoming elections, particularly the latest developments in the mayor's race.
Who has got an inside track and could we see
another candidate? And lastly, folks, Louisiana may be on the
verge of a mineral explosion ever heard of lithium. It's
more than just for bipolar these days. Hi has got
an ole update on that. All this and more in
this edition of the Founders and.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
God bless all out there. You are now listening to
the Founders. So the voice of the Founding Fathers, You're
Founding Fathers coming to you deep within the bowels of
those mystic and cryptic alligator swamps of the Big Easy,
that old Crescent City, New Orleans, Louisiana, and high up
on top of that old Liberty Cypress, free draped in

(01:48):
Spanish moss, way out on the Eagles Branches. None of
the then you just been Gary Bubby all the Republic chaplain.
Hi McHenry, who.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
With Christopher Tidmore, you're roving reporter, resident radical moderate and
associate edit of the Louisiana Weekly newspaper at louisianaweekly dot net.
And before we get into Taris and anything, we got
to look at the legislative sessions. It's some interesting stuff
has been happening high including a bill that has been
filed to introduce.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
A property service fee.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Now, for those that don't know and haven't paid attention,
we have a little bit of a drainage problem in
Orleans and an even bigger kind of water problem. It
seems like every five minutes we have a boiled water
advisory in Orleans Parish. And one of the things that's
going on is the fact that we as a people,
we need to put billions of dollars. But if you

(02:35):
try to increase the property taxes in Orleans Parish to
the point where you could fix all of the systems,
whoever is left over could close. Might as well close
the door and say, you know, the last person live
in there. And so this is the most controversial measure,
but it has a weird amount of bipartisan support. It's

(02:55):
called House Bill six h nine, which would put a
storm watar fee on city properties. Now, this is the
interesting part.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Was that partisan or bi polar?

Speaker 3 (03:04):
This is bipartisan because it's not fine.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
We're talking about the legislature. That's why I said bipolar, folks.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
So here's how it works. A property service fee taxes everything.
It doesn't matter if you are a nonprofit, doesn't matter
if your church you use water. It doesn't matter if
you're a homeowner, and it doesn't matter if you're a
city property or federal property. So what happens is this
is a fee based on the amount of square footage

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any institution has. This allows the City House Bill six
o nine would allow the Sewage and Water Board of
New Orleans, which we gotta remember, is a state agency.
People forget that. It's not a city agency. It's a
state agency.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
How long has it been a state agency?

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Eighteen eighties it was. Actually it predated a lot of
the city bowers. And so it would allow essentially the
sewageon water Board to levy this fee and the federal
government would have to pay it. The military would have
to pay it, churches would have to pay it, universities
would have to pay it. Why is all that important
because right now, less than one fourth of properties in

(04:06):
Orleans Parish pay property taxes for sewage or for anything
for that matter. Their property exempt. That's all the properties
owned by two Lane loyal that's all the properties that
are owned by churches, you know, that's all the properties
owned by nonprofits. Now you could say that's fair, they're
not profit making entities. But we all, no matter who
you are, you all have to use water and this

(04:28):
property service fee based on the NATO square footage would
even require the federal government to pay it.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
But it would also.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Require, strangely, the City of New Orleans to pay a
fee to the sewage and waterboard. As you might imagine,
that is not a particularly popular idea amongst certain city
council members.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
I say so in other words, politics believe it's good for thee,
but not for me.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
So Governor Jeff Landry is insupportive of this. We need
a functioning sewage waterboard. It needs to be less political.
And he says if it makes sense for the state
to do the fee, if it's constitutional, as is the sponsor,
state Representative Mandy Landry of the Uptown area. Now, let
me explain something to you, folks. How weird this coalition is.

(05:15):
If there are two people in the legislature that a
legislator and a governor that hate each other more than
Mandy Landry and Jeff Landry, I can't imagine who they
could be. The two Landries are the two people who
most detest one another's presence.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
A family feud.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Oh, maybe a very distant family feud. But the fact
is Many Landry is an Uptown progressive. She's actually a
very nice person. Jeff Landry's a nice guy. He is
a very much a Kadianic conservative. And the fact is,
if they can agree on this, there's something to it.
Because it's the ultimate flat tax. Everyone has to pay it.
It creates money. And the estimation is by doing the

(05:55):
service Fate, you could eliminate all sewage and waterboard property
taxes that you pay and the average homeowner's payment would
go down even while we raise over two billion dollars
more in revenue. So Landry likes that, as does any
state representative who wants those votes. Who doesn't like it
is somebody who actually think very highly of and we

(06:15):
often talk about in the show, and he's been a
guest on the show many many times, and that's Councilman
at Large JP Morrell, who thinks the idea and I'm quoting.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Is utterly is completely silly. That's an exact quote.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
I don't know how you plan on it as a legislator,
letting the Public Service Commission coming into the city and
regulating us without.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
The consent of the citizens.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
So the Public Service Commissioner is our commission, is our
regulatory body. It regulates energy and power in the whole
state everywhere, but guess where Orleans Parish.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
Uh, And there's the rub PS.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
The council regulates energy in Orleans Parish, but most parishes,
water is a department of city government. In New Orleans,
water is an apartment of state government. To show how
screwed up we can be historically in this state. So
in order to regulate something on the state level, you
have to have the state regulatory body regulated. And so
this bill is coming with a legislate. It's gonna be
a massive fight where you're going to see some of

(07:10):
the most liberal Democrats on the side of the Republican
governor and you're going to it's gonna be this weird coalition.
I think it passes. It's because it's got a lot
of bipartisan support. It's kind of a no brainer. But
what you'll see against it, you want to see. You're
going to see the most liberal professors get together with
the church leaders and Gene Mills in the Louisiana Family
Forum to oppose it. I love a political issue like

(07:32):
this because it makes because it forms. Every political coalition
gets completely blown out by a situation like this.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
Interesting Christopher, Wow, very very interesting, folks. What Sleep six
is yellow and black or sleep six and is yellow
and black. What we've told this before. I guess many
of you know it. This is a joke. A Sergian
waterboard truck. And listen, I saw that happen the other
day weeks ago. They were fixing a water meter right

(08:03):
outside of somebody's house next door. And there were ten workers,
ten workers, and I believe a supervisor or city hall
official and somebody. It took them a half a day
to change out a water meter. And when I went
over there and look several times one other there was
one man working. The others were just hanging out, smoking, talking,

(08:24):
you know, having fun. It was their relaxation time. And
that therein really does lie the rub. We've got extreme inefficiency.
We got bad stuff, folks. We got our col im
sorry to me, that's corruption. We need to turn dogs
loose on our sewage of waterboard. That's what we need, folks.
And you know what, the man with the big balls.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
That generally, and I will I will point out generally
I am no defender of city government. But you know
what you see when you see that, you want to
know the truth. This is how screwed up our systems
of laws. Is the first nine inches, but below the
the ground line is the cities. The next thirty six

(09:04):
inches is the sewage and water boards, and.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Then below that is the cities. So every time, no,
this is true, every time.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
Shallow job. They were just replacing a water meter. They
didn't dig out the ground. Christ Fah.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Every time you do something, and this is how dumb
it is, every time you do something. In Orleans Parish,
the Sewage and Waterboard is not allowed to dig anything
up without a city inspector there. And that's one of
the things we're talking.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
They weren't digging anything out. That's the thing. They were
replacing a water meter. You have to five inch or
six inches under the ground, Cristal, and that's it. What
did I just for nine inches? Didn't gone?

Speaker 2 (09:38):
No, No, the city controls the first nine inches. No,
the city controls the first nine inches high.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
Yes, so right in the city. Just oh, the city
cannot do it.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
The city will not allow the Sewage and water Board
to replace anything in the first nine inches without a
city inspector there.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
Well, they must have had a dozen or whatever, seven
or eight inspectors or whatever they want.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
My point is, you're right about the bureaucracy but part
of it is this parochialism between the city and the
state because it is that and it comes down to
this oil, It comes back to this property service fee,
that because it's the idea that one has a belly
wick and the other doesn't. It's an accident in our history, folks.
For those that don't know, Orleans Parish was the first

(10:20):
incorporated parish city and was always given certain exemptions in
the law that didn't because at the time it did
things that the state wasn't capable of doing, including creating
a sewer system. Why did Carrollton Why did the Garden
District first, but ultimately the city of Carrollton in the
eighteen seventies and eighties leave Jefferson Parish and join Orleans

(10:41):
because Orleans was the only place that had sewers and
had property developments.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
So anyway, let me give you.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
Folks, get a little more background this which is really fascinating.
When we built our surgeon water system back around the
turn a little before the turn of the century, the
one we have right now with all the pumps and
all the stuff, it was state of the art. It
was so well done. It was such an ingenious work
that cities from around the world came to New Walls
to study our our swords and waterboard, study our drainage systems,

(11:09):
our water suppliuse, everything. It was state of the art.
It was amazing and and yet now it's in a
complete state of disaster.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Well, our original sewer system, actually it's our pumping systems.
What you're referring to was they're not there. Was was designed.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
Pumps that had never been done before. There were a
lot of amazing things happened at that time.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
It was designed by men by the name of Albert
Baldwin Wood.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
And actually my wife that's why I remember his name
that way.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
It was actually my wife's great great grandfather, and uh
it was he created a tongue in grooves system of
pumping that became the model for the pumping in the Netherlands.
All those pumps were based on ours. Anyway, to give
you an idea of how ridiculous sometimes these these things are,
it's not just property services. So let me give you
another issue. So you've heard me, ladies and gentlemen, talk

(12:00):
about the live performance tax credits. For those that don't know,
Louisiana is very uniquely has a tax credit that gives
you up to between three hundred thousand a million dollars
fourteen percent back on live legitimate performances and above a
million eighteen percent back. It's the the film Tax Credits
Approve approved to live legitimate theater. And before anybody says

(12:23):
it exemptions to this, just like it kind of exempts
what would not be live legitimate theater. And let's just
leave it at that. It's actually written in a law.
But the fact is there after this was passed in
two thousand and seven, they're about to expire. It was
renewed in twenty seventeen, ten years later, and now there
it's up for renewal, which you'll note it's not ten
years because only JP Morrell, just to say I'm not

(12:45):
being critical JP, he renewed this tax and he kept
us alive. Why is it important? Not only does this
do it for private theater, fifty percent of the deductions
are reserved for nonprofits. If you lose the live performance
tax credit, you not only hurt the New Orleans Opera,
which obviously people know that have it, You kill that
Louis or Philharmonic. You hurt le petite theater almost irreparably Basically,

(13:10):
anything that provides theatrical or music productions on a large
scale above three hundred thousand would be hard to operate
without these credits.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
So we're going from the theater of the surgeon waterboard
to the theater of the performing arts. Christopher. Quite an
interesting shift you just pull.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
We're going to the you know, the theater of the
serb to the theater of the mind. But anyway, the
point being this should be renewed. Now I could deal
with it not being renewed in the sense of this
would be stupid, but at least it's logical. The governor
is not a supporter of any form of tax credits.
It's not a particular thing against live performance. He doesn't
like individual tax credits because he wants to cut overall taxes.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Okay, at least.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
That's intellectually consistent, even if I don't agree with it,
except somebody put an amendment into HB one. This is
the main funding bill for this to restore one point
four five million dollars of these tax credits. Remember it's
a ten million dollar program for everybody. So even in
a bad year, we spend six or seven million dollars

(14:11):
on this program. Mostly it's almost always up to ten.
So how they would divide that, I have no idea
except it's an appropriations bill. Now you're gonna be like,
so what. I'm on the phone with a legislator this
morning talking about this who shall rename remain nameless? And
they're saying it can't be there. I'm saying it is here.

(14:33):
Here's the document I'd sent the document. No, it's it's
a tax measure that doesn't go before Ways and Means
that goes before that doesn't go before appropriations, that goes
for the Ways and Means Committee. I mean, this is
schoolhouse rock. This is I'm just a bill, just a
little old bill, and we're going up to Capitol Hill.
This this is basic things, and this legislator happens to
be correct. But because it was put in the appropriations better,

(14:54):
we have to go to the Appropriations committee before you can
go the Ways and Means Committee instead of the other
way around. And because of that, we're in a tricky
situation of not getting a tax credit renewed. Now, some
people are like, well, why would we care about a
tax credit for this? Louisiana is one of the only
states we don't have really rich people. We can't underwrite
a lot of our big productions. We're the first city

(15:16):
of opera in America. For example, we don't have people
that can write eight hundred thousand dollars checks to underwrite
each opera. That's what an opera cost. We don't have
people who can write half a million dollar checks to
do an entire symphony. That's what a symphony cost.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
For the LPL.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
You're getting the sense of how this stuff is. We
have to piece it together from many different sources.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
And the state.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
We're one of the only states in the Union and
I'm talking our fellow southern states that gives no appropriations
to cultural arts. Now you heard that what I just said.
Not only the center of classical music opera started here
in America in the seventeen nineties.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
We are this.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
I'm talking about anything. We don't give any money from
a state level for the performance of not really of
actual musical things. That includes forms that are like jazz.
Massive jazz concerts, individual festivals can occasionally get an earmark
Jazz and Heritage Foundation gets a little bit so and

(16:13):
so forth, but for the most part, the state doesn't
fund culture in the place that gave culture, at least
musical culture and in most cases literary and everything to
the rest of the country. And so without the tax credits,
which is a pretty efficient way of doing it, because
you've got to actually spend the money first and then
get it back. We can't continue to maintain our major symphonic, ballet,

(16:34):
cultural and operatic institutions with what's happening, and it may
all fall apart because some legislator, well meaning, ends up
doing roughly fifteen percent of the amount that we need
in the wrong bill in the legislature, and nobody knows
how to fix it.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
Wow, that's interesting. And speaking about music, folks, a famous
musician was once to ask, what help us understand American music?
In the origins of American music? Unity said, go to
New Orleans. It all started there. And folks, if you
study music, the history of music in America, that's almost
every music genre started down here in New Orleans. So

(17:15):
we have a remarkable music city. Tragically, we don't cash
in on it, just like we don't cash in on
our river, the greatest water set of wealth from the world,
and yet with the largest port, and yet it comes
and goes every day. Billions of dollars passes by every
day and we get very little of it. And it's
a shame that we don't also some kind of way
to develop our entertainment and especially music industry like Nashville.

(17:38):
Did you know, like Hollywood? They all do it? Why
can't we do it?

Speaker 2 (17:42):
And before we go out of this where we're in
the legislative session, you brought up the river.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
My god, Hei, it's almost like you plan this.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
I'm very prophetic Christopher in this particular student of Holy
writ that prophetic spirit perhaps engages me and enlightens me,
and I don't even know I'm doing it.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Can you feel the Shovelt folks right now right next
to the radio show?

Speaker 4 (18:02):
Hi McHenry and fun this is a clean show.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Please, Hi mckenry, Christopher Timbor come to you and the
founder of show as we do every Sunday's at eight
am and wo and Monday, Wednesday and Friday's on WSLA.
And I got to say this one is one of
all the issues. Hein and I've been doing this show together.
We've been doing shows together for almost twenty eight years,
but we've been doing this particular iteration of the show

(18:25):
for what fourteen years, I think something like that.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Anyway, in all those years, I haven't seen as crazy
an argument as what I'm seeing right now, which is
a billion dollar project. And what am I talking about
this is building the container port down in Sant Fernardo Parish. Now,
if you're asking me the question, does Louisiana need a
container port lower on the river, closer to the Gulf

(18:51):
to be able to compete in the container traffic coming
into it. Yes, I'm not debating that issue. We need
to build it. It's desperate, very important. And for one thing,
the container when we are only container port that we
really have in around the New Orleans areas at Napoleon Avenue,
and there's these rather two big bridges, these ships have
to come under, and the ships are too big to

(19:12):
get there, so we can't even use the ones for
most of the shipping that comes to the Panama Canal,
which just got recently widened, we can't even use it
for that, So we have to build a new container port.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
Those container cranes are right in front of my house, folks.
They go from Mike Jefferson or maybe Nashville, all the
way over to Napoleon. There are nine of them, and you.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
Know how much each one costs.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
No, but you know what, they're not even really big ones.
That's the sad thing. This is just tragic what we
do in this country. I mean, in this city. We've
known about this since the very beginning. The plans were made,
but nothing ever happened.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Here's the thing, something's happening now. But this is what
I get. Let me explain. This is where the rub is.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
So the Port of New Orleans has bought this land
down in Saint Bernard Parish to build a container port.
That sounds good, right, People in St. Bernard don't want
it because it's induct They have very little river as
as it is with the industrial plants. However, that would
be like well, you know, I feel for you guys,
but sorry accept And this is where the exception is,

(20:10):
right directly across the river. I'm not talking further away.
I mean, like you can see it from one side
of the river to the other. Placaman's Parish is building
a container port. And that's not the Port of New Orleans.
That's the Port of South Louisiana. That is just as
sophisticated in the same basic place. If you're a boat
it doesn't matter if you're in an easter best bank.

(20:32):
And they have this entire plan to connect the rail
lines that are going west all the way to this
and build a new rail and road bridge that would
connect Lower Plaquamen to Lower Jeffersons, which right now you
have to go all the way up practically to Gretton
and to come around.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
So it's an.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Important transportation route. So the people in Placuamen have said, look,
we don't have all the money to build this. We've
got some We don't want to compete against you. We're
a different government agent.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
But here's what we'll do, Port of New Orleans.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
We'll give you half of it, fifty to fifty equal partnership.
We get together, we build a port everybody in Plaquaman
thinks is a good idea, the opposite of press. We
work together and we don't try to compete against the
same business coming in, which is what would happen now,
because it's we got twelve port authorities in the Mississippi River,
and every time somebody bids on something, you've got three
different port authorities in on the same river bidding against

(21:25):
each other. And most of the shipping companies say well,
I'd rather go to Houston or something where there's just
one person to talk to instead of twelve. So they
come to the legislature and they say, look, this is
half as expensive.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
We'll do it fifty to fifty.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
The people in the area are really supportive because they
want the road work to be able to we'll actually
be able to move the train that goes to the
middle of downtown Gretna and put it there so people
are not hit by trains. We'll have all the money
to do it. The railroad companies like it, everybody likes it.
And the Port of New Orleans just approached and said, no,
we don't want to do that. We want a billion
dollar for the state to build our own and we

(22:01):
don't care. And by the way, there's only one rail
line connecting it through the middle of downtown Chawmet and
so everyone is kind of like why, Well, because the
port says, this is our land and we want it
and we're not working with anybody else because we're the port.
And they're like, but we're port. We're to Port of
South Louisiana over Blackomen. Yeah, you're not our port. We
don't want partners. We want to do it ourselves. So you,

(22:24):
the tax pairs of Louisiana are being asked to pay
twice for two agencies that will compete against each other
pointlessly to put one of those ports in a place
where the people there don't want it own, just to
make things more interesting. Not only do does is universal
attitude and Chalmett and araby, but they want to build
it and violate which is right or the other on
top of an traditional African American cemetery that goes back

(22:47):
to slave times in a black neighborhood and destroy a
black one of the few remaining African American historic towns
that exist in the metro New Orleans area. So there's
a little bit of environmental racism. Just throw it on top, folks.
This is why we have problems in Louisiana politics. On
that note, were gonna take quick commercial break, Folks will

(23:08):
be back a little bit more legislature, but more on
tariffs and the impact and potentially a solution. It would require, however,
Donald Trump and the Democratic leadership to get together and
adopt an idea that Andrew Yang and Paul Ryan agree on.
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Speaker 2 (28:21):
With Christopher Tidmore and folks, we got a lot to
talk about about America's foreign policy. We want to talk
a little bit about an idea on tariffs. But you know,
right now the Trump administration is basking in the idea
that preactively that they've managed to secure the border, and
a lot of people are wondering if Trump could do it,
why couldn't Biden And you get into a question of commitment.

(28:42):
The question, though, is what happens next. And the Supreme
Court has agreed to hear the Appellate Court's case about
birthright citizenship, and this is going to be one of
the divisions between different schools of thought in conservative minds,
So the fourteenth Amendment says anyone born in the United
States has citizenship. It's a very straightforward statement. The intent

(29:04):
has to do with freed slaves. That was the original intent. However,
the statement is pretty clear. There's no ambiguity about the statement.
If you're born in the United States, you're a citizen
in the United States, period. And so this is the
division on the court. Everybody's wondering, well, why are some
of these conservatives voting on all this and others. We've
talked about this before, and it has to do with

(29:26):
whether you're an originalist or a textualist. Amy Connie Barrett,
for example, is a textualist. She said, I care about
the original intent, but frankly, if it says it, it
means it. If it doesn't say it doesn't mean it.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Period.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
An originalist will say like in a way, and they're
similar to people on the left. They're using another way
of interpreting it. What did they originally mean when they
wrote this. Even if it says it, does it mean that?
Does it go just the same way a liberal might say,
what is the intent? What is the growth idea of it?
They're two different philosophies. I'm not equating them, but I'm
saying it's not as clear as who says what so.

(30:00):
So that's why this idea of whether blairthright citizenship is
allowed comes in the only time it was ever tested
was in the late nineteenth century with a Chinese immigrant,
a Chinese person who was born in the United States
of Chinese descent, and we had something called the Chinese
Exclusion Acts. Whether it was that and actually it was
never decided on. And this is the other part. There

(30:22):
is no legislation that exists, an actual statute, as opposed
to constitutional amendment that says if you're born in the
United States, you're a citizen. Because everybody just assumed that
that's what the Constitution says, that's what it has to be.
And so this is going to be a very interesting
test case as to how far the Supreme Court will
support presidential action and executive authority.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
But the key thing to that is in that Science
passage it says that if they're a resident, well, the
illegal aliens coming in are not residents. They're invaders. And
so that's where the challenge is going to be. It's
getting through that warding. So what's amy, what's she going
too bad? You're going to do? Now, if she's a textualist,
she's got say that's right, that's in here. And so
you got to be a resident. Illegals are not residents.

(31:06):
They're invaders. In many cases, they're very dangerous people also.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Not necessarily and let me give it. Let me give
you an example. I mean, if you, first of all,
there is no place on earth that would say if
a parent committed a crime, the child is responsible for
the crime.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
It doesn't exist.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
That's not the point here, Chris.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
But actually that is the point here.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
I disagree with that. I'm sorry. The child can go
back with the parents to their native land. They're not
blamed if they're not going to be putting in jail
because their parents broke the law.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Right now, the Trump administration says, and this is their argument,
you're not waiting to stop, let me at least get
the words out before you tell me how wrong I am.
They're saying, if you're a legal resident, you're a student,
you're here an h one b visa and you have
a child, that child can't be a resident. So those
people haven't broken the law. High they're here legally under

(31:57):
our system. They're not citizens, but they're allowed to work here,
they're allowed to study here. If they have a child,
shouldn't their children, by the logic of what you just said,
since they're here legally, become citizens because they are legally resident,
right if they the station says no.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
Right now, they're the ones that cross the board, the
ones with the green cards. That's another issue. Okay, I
can see that, but most of them don't have green cards.
They're invading the country. They are not legal residents. They
are invaders and they're here illegally. Therefore they're not residents.
So it doesn't apply to them. They can have all
the babies they want to. They got to take them
back when when they get kicked out? Is that simple?

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Well, I would put it. And that's not for whom
the bell tolls. The tolls for US folks. The answer
to this, and let's I mean, let's look out. What
does this say All persons born or naturalized in the
United States and subject to the jurisdictionarire off are citizens
of the United States of the state wherein they reside.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
No, I'm not wearing my reading glasses.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
But no state shall make enforce any law that shall
abridge privileges or immunities of citizens, Nor any state deprive
any person of life, liberty, and property without due process
of law, nor deny any person within its jurisdiction equal
petition law.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
Where does it say resident in that statement, The word.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
Is jurisdiction, which makes him a resident.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
No, it says all persons born or naturalized in the
United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. And so
the jurisdiction has and you want to be an originalist,
actually is defined as those people are in certain states.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
Well, the top constitutional lawyers are arguing this right now.
You know, Chris Fhry, do you know any of you know? Okay,
all right, all right, okay, all right, there are Okay,
I don't follow you know constitutional lawyers and know all
their names, but I have seen it on television, heard

(33:49):
on the radio of top constitutional lawyers, some for some against.
Their arguments are very interesting. It's not as cut and dried.
It's because we're saying right now this is going to
be requires some serious legal study. Let's say, and so
now we're under the jurisdiction issue. They're not under the jurisdiction.

(34:10):
They're under the jurisdiction of their native countries, not our country.
They are here illegally, and they need to be removed
with their children. No other country in the world does is,
by the way, no other country is stupid enough to
do it. But we do it. And if you look
at the original cost, it was for the poor slaves
who should be should have been citizens. They certainly were

(34:31):
residents and under the jurisdiction of America, so they absolutely
should have been legal citizens. It was written for them.
So there's the original intent. But again if you go
to the wording, you can see it's very debatable here.
It's not just a clear cut and drive like Christmas
trying to say.

Speaker 5 (34:46):
So.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Jurisdiction in the context of the Fourteenth Amendment, according to
Congress dot gov and according to Black's Law, it refers
to the authority or power of a state or to
the United States to exercise its law over individuals and
property within the territories. So if a person breaks the law,
yes you're right, but a baby cannot break a law.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
We're not talking about the baby, but the baby is
attached to the parents. The baby is attached to the parents. Unfortunately,
the baby has parents that break the law. You can't
blame the baby for that. But the baby to the
baby is not being destroyed or put in jail by
being sent back to their natural country, their naturally born
country where their parents are from. That's not punishing the baby. No,

(35:28):
it's not, Christopher. They should listen. They have their own country.
Go back to their country and make the best of it.
Maybe they could change their country and make it into
a really fine country. That's a possibility, folks. We need that.
The world needs that right now, so they don't need
to be here. And especially part of the problem this
whole thing, folks, is that so many of these people
are criminals, like that God that just sent to go

(35:52):
maz or wherever's name is that they just sent down
from Maryland and the Maryland father, No, he was an
illegal senizen M thirteen. It's a criminal wife bader and
they have charges of murder and everything else against this guy.
He's an evil man and he needed to be thrown
out the country. He is not a marilynd father. Sorry,
he's a el Salvador Faller, and I.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Still point out the fact that Trump wants to get
rid of send children back as appendages of a parent, which,
as a pro life member, you do not believe any
more than I believe, because these are human beings, children
of your.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
Twist in the law. No, if you are, if you
want to do that, I'm sorry, you twist in the law.
Christ for Yeah, what he's talking about it in pro life.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
First, First, I'm gonna finish my statement. I let you
finish your statement. He's also saying people who are a
herely legally resident who have children can't and so he's
not making distinction. If you break the law and you're
here illegally, you can't do it. He said, if you
are born on the United States, not of a parent
who is a citizen, even if you're here legally, it

(36:53):
should not count. That is the argument being made to
the Supreme Court, not the wishful thinking you're engaging in.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
I admit that.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
No, I'm sorry, you're not going to mix pro life
with this. That two the two don't match. No, they
do not. They absolutely do not commit I mean fit, uh,
you're you're you know what he's talking about. Folks. So
the baby killers want to say, well, this is just
an appendage, like you know, an appendix, and I can
cut it out if I want to. It's my body.
I'll do what I want. No, that's a whole, totally

(37:23):
separate human being inside of you that you God has
given you and helping you bring to life to have
a good life on this earth. You're not to kill it. Well,
Trump's not talking about killing the illegal alien babies, and
and he's what he's saying is that they belong to
the parents for the care and trust the parents are
supposed to give them, not to abuse them, but to

(37:45):
take care of them tragically live. These illegals do abuse
their children, they abuse their wives. Are their women folk
and so folks. Uh. And by the way, the one
last point, and it's very interesting. The guy, the president
of El Salvador, he said this, It was so fascinating.
He says, one reason we don't want to let them
out is it protects him. If we turn them loose,

(38:06):
half of them, I'm going to be dead because they're
all slaughtering one another, you know, different gangs fighting with
one another. If I came him in jail and under
command of control. Then they can't kill one another, so
there's actually a merciful thing to keep them alive.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
All right, We've got to change gears now to the
other argument that's going on in Congress, and that is
the idea of tariffs. Now, the president legitimately, for people
who have wondered about why he has it, he's got
the power to levy tariffs because of a bill that
passed in nineteen in the early nineteen seventies that gave
the power that was conventionally given to Congress to enact
tariffs to the president to uniliterally do this. But one

(38:37):
of the things that's going on at the same time
you may have noticed, was there was a budgetary framework
that passed the House and Senate on extending the tax cuts,
putting the budget together, so on and so forth.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
And the framework just says we'll cut a.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Certain amount of money and will raise a certain amount
of revenues to cut a certain amount of taxes.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
It's not specific, It doesn't say what you will do.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
It just says these are the broad outlines. So there
are there is not unanimity. The remember Republicans only have
two seat majority in the House. On any given matter,
you're not going to cut Medicaid, for example, because there
are five Republicans who are ardently against cutting any form
of medicaid and they represent Rulesla lural districts much like

(39:17):
Mike Johnson's where forty percent of the people are on
Medicaid because they're funding rule hospitals, so it crosses over.
So how do you do all of this, Well, there
is a way to do it, and to actually take
care of the tariffs and make America more competitive. You
might notice that Donald Trump has put tariffs on allies
of ours because they level something called a value added tax.

(39:40):
For those that don't know, a value added tax is
just a sales tax. It's taxed at every level of production,
so you can't get out of it. However, if you export,
you're able to get the credits back. So if you're manufacturing,
you pass it on to the next level. It's a
very efficient, if somewhat really labyrinthine form of taxation. It's simpler, however,
than income taxes. Now, what is Donald Trump want to do.

(40:01):
He wants to get rid of income taxes on the
first one hundred and fifty thousand of married couples. He
wants to get rid of taxes on tips. He wants
to get rid of taxes on several other areas. These
are actually whether you think they're good economically. As for
the country, they're very popular.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
There are very few.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
People who think the idea of getting rid of taxes
on the first one hundred and fifty thousand won't help people.
It may not generate the economy, but it would probably
help people. There's also there's not one person around who
doesn't believe, including Donald Trump, because he's pretty much admitted
this of the short term pain argument that if you
put tariffs on importing things, that's a sales tax, because
that's what it fundamentally is, it's a tax on bringing

(40:39):
things in. So in order to deal with this situation,
back in twenty seventeen, the then Speaker of the House,
Paul Ryan, proposed an idea. He said, here's a notion
you want to get. You want to reduce the corporate
income tax. Let's get rid of it all together. Let's
institute it a value added tax. We could put a
value added a tax of ten or fifteen percent, get

(41:01):
all the money of the corporate income tax, massively cut
taxes and be able to regear our economy for exports
and at the same time close the deficit. And Trump said,
that's a terrible idea. It's a sales tax that will
raise prices. Andrew Yang ran for president as a Democrat.
He wanted a uniform, a universal basic income. How is

(41:22):
he to get a funded a value added tax? Because
he said, look, if we're paying everybody twelve thousand a year, yes,
prices will go up, but they'll get money and you'll
have it. The interesting thing is, right now, there are
Republicans who want to cut taxes even further than they
are and certainly extend the existing tax cuts, and they
don't know how to pay for it. And there are
Republicans who want to get rid of the tariff situation

(41:42):
along with Democrats, and they're Democrats who don't like sales taxes,
but they don't like tariffs either, because they're basically sales taxes.
Is there a possibility of a coalition to put in
a value added tax. One of the things Donald Trump
wants to do is cut the corporate income tax to
fifteen If you got rid of the corporate income tax
and had fifteen percent value added tax, you could eliminate

(42:03):
income taxes and everybody making less than one hundred and
fifty thousand tips, increase the state and local tax deduction
to absolute and everything, and still balance the budget without
having to touch Medicare, Medicaid, social Security or that. People
don't like it because it'll raise prices, but don't tariffs
do that too. Is there a deal possible in the past,
Donald Trump said no? Is he ready now to say yes?

(42:26):
Because in the end, a tariff is no more a
that a value added taxes, no more than a domestic
tariff in the end.

Speaker 4 (42:34):
Right, all that makes great sense, chrispher interesting things happening here.
I like to point out one think. Christopher said that
he raised taxes on our allies. Guess what, our allies
had already raised taxes on us. He's just trying to
create an even playing field, even Stephen, folks, that's all
equal fair trade. That's what he's after. And if we're
going to survive as a nation, it's way past that time. Now.
We helped all these people after World War Two. That's

(42:55):
why they got all the types of vantages over US
tariffs and everything. We let them have it. I think
we may and encouraged it. We wanted them to come back.
Their countries were destroyed all around the world's the World War.
The infrastructures were wiped out, their economies were wiped out.
They needed help. We gave him that up by giving
them advantages over us, and also going in and rebuilding
and let him a lot of money. So, folks, those
days are long gone.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Now.

Speaker 4 (43:15):
These countries in many cases are better off than we are.
And yet they're taxing the heck out of us, and
we're not allowed to counter tax him. Uh huh. We
need even this thing up. Trump's doing it, and the
White House has lines around the corner of these foreign
nations all trying to get in and say, Okay, we'll
work with you. Don't do it, don't do it, don't please,
will we work with you? You're right, you're right. So
it's working, folks, it's working now. It's the beginning of

(43:38):
this whole thing. I'm not going to make predictions one
way or the other. So many people are I will
not do that. I want to see how this thing
flushes out. It could take another year or two before
we really know what's how this whole thing is working out.
But I think he's I believe he's on the right
track to make it give us an even playing field.
That's only fair, folks, it's only right, all right, Well,
it's time for us to take a break. We'll be
right back as we with the Chaplin up a patriotic

(44:00):
moment and gospel moment and testimony time. See you later, folks,
God bless you.

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Speaker 4 (44:49):
Well, folks are back and you are listening to the
Finder Show and this is yours truly Chaplinhi mc henry,
you're a spingeary by by all the Republic. And before
we go into our final part, I wanted to remind
you all. I'll give you a little brief update on
the lithium issue. We had a good show on this
a few weeks ago and we brought about how there's
a big lithium find folks. It goes all the way
from Mexico across Texas, across South Arkansas, half of Louisiana

(45:14):
and New Mexican Mississippi, comes down all the way down
even through Saint Tamminy Parish and cuts over the South
Mississippi over to the Mobile area, and then all the
way into the Panhandle of Florida. This is a huge area.
It will supply lithium in America for the next one
hundred years. This is huge. We no longer depended on
upon the Chinese. Now all that is loaded with rare

(45:36):
earth minerals. And it's such a big thing that Louisiana
legislature has already enacted legislation, voted on legislation for us
to control it. We're waiting to set the price Texas
and Louisiana waiting for Arkansas to set the price. It's
just first discovered in Smackover, Arkansas. It's called the Smackover Field.
It's very exciting, folks. It could pourt in great fortunes

(45:56):
and future for the people in these areas. So let's
hope and pray this is going to really bring something
big for Louisiana. Well, folks, it is not time for
us to go into our chaplain. Bye by patriotic women.
We'll just take a brief moment to tell you and
remind you of the biblical foundations of our country, our
Judeo Christian jurisprudence. And today we're going to talk about
Daniel C. Roberts, a hymn writer who wrote the famous

(46:19):
hymn God of our Fathers and Episcopalian him, taken from
Psalm forty eight seven, that reads like this, the Lord
of Hosts is with us. The God of Jacob is
our refuge. This was written in eighteen seventy six and
it was adopted by Congress as America's first formal and

(46:40):
official song before the national anthem, the StarSpangled Banner. Folks,
it goes that far back, and it demonstrates to you
that throughout our history, our American leadership has always known
and understood the need to have God in government. You know,
you want to make America great again.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
I do.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
I think we all do. Well. If we do, we're
going to have to go back to what made America
great to begin with. And that's time I'm talking about God,
because our finding fathers put God in the middle of
everything they were doing, especially their politics. It gave us
a great country. And if we really want to be
great again, we've got to do that. We can't just
do what we're doing. A lot of good right now,
and that's great, but it's not going to last. We
don't put God in the middle of it. Folks, imagine

(47:20):
that the God of Our Fathers was our first formal
official American song, but enacted by in law by Congress
known as the the United States National Anthem, God of
Our Fathers. Now we also have a I mean a
national hymn, not anthem. It's the national hymn. We do

(47:40):
have a national anthem. That's the Starspangle banner that came later.
And in the Starspangle banner you hear at the end
of it it says, in God is our trust, and
what do we have our money in God we trust?
Think of it, folks. It's all over the place. I
promise you. God has supersaturated this country. All you got
to do is this. Open your eyes a little, and
you can't help but see it. There are words in

(48:01):
this hymn that are wonderful. God of our Fathers whose
almighty hand leads forth in beauty. All the story Land Phil,
I'm just doing. I can't read the whole song. Fill
all of our lives with love and grace, divine folks.
This was a song bringing glory to God and pointing
out how important God is for this country. That was

(48:23):
our first official song, the National known as the National Hymn,
A great Episcopaian him written by Daniel C. Roberts from
New York. Folks, I think you can see that we
definitely had God in America from the very very beginning
and all the way throughout. That's what this part of
the show is about, to show you how true that is. Well,

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what about God in you? Is God in you right now?
I hope? So? If not, you need to get him there,
because we're going to make America great again. It starts
with the individual, and for us to be great, we
need God in the middle of our lives. So I'm
going to just now take a short time again to
show you how you can know that. You know that,
you know you're God's child. He is in you, You're
saved from a burning hell, and you're guaranteed everlasting life

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to be with God. In heaven forever. What a blessing. Well,
let's just start with this. The scripture says in first John,
believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved.
The very sharp verse simple to the point. Children get it.
In fact, you know, the Bible says, unless you come
as a little child, you shall know why it's entering.

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God made the Gospel belie simple and understandable by everybody.
It was not designed for great intellectuals, breeding philosopher's high
IQ folks, et cetera, et cetera. It was designed for
children and the understanding of a child. So put on
your child thinking cap right, not just for a moment.
I don't mean be childish, I mean child thinking. How
you perceive spiritual things. Children have great depths of perception

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when it comes to spiritual matters. Maybe it's because they've
just come from the Creator. And take note, when people
get out near the end, they all solve a sudden
developed great spiritual perception because maybe they're getting ready to
go back to their creator and they know they better
get it right. So here's how you can get it right.
Right now. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou
shall be saved. Now that's simple, agent, but it's kind

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of general, kind of vague, like believe, what would you believe?
I'm gonna tell you right now. The scripture says, the
Gospel is the power of God into salvation to whosoever
believeth the gospel. Well, what is the gospel? Well again,
the Bible tells us the first Queen the fifteen for
our declared to you the gospel that Jesus died for
all of our sins according to the scripture, that he
was buried, and that he rose from the dead according

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to the scripture. Now this is a paraphrase that whosoever
believeth in this great Gospel message will be saved from
hell and guaranteed heaven. It's that simple, folks. You just
have to believe that only Jesus can save you. You
cannot believe that you're part of how you fix yourself.
If you will, you'll never be good enough, smart enough,
religious enough, rich enough, or whatever enough to make it
to heaven, to be good enough for God, because you're

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just not. The script says, all of our righteousness are
as filthy rits. I don't care. Our good yard are
still not going to be good enough for God God,
so don't worry about it. He was good enough for you,
and he did that by becoming a man. Is God
the Son became a man. His name is the Lord
Jesus Christ. We're celebrating Easter this year because of that,
we do it every year. The Easter celebration is basically
a gospel celebration. Death, barren, resurrection. That's the gospel. So

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you've got to first believe you can't save yourself. You're
just hopeless and helps God of God destined to a
burning hell. And that is called repentance. Repentance is when
you change your mind. The word literally means change your mind.
Before you thought you could be smart enough, good enough,
religious enough, rich enough, charming enough, or whatever you thought
thought you had to bring the table and that would
help God out or that would take care of the job.

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Or no, it doesn't do anything. It only gets in
God's way. So leave it behind, get rid of it,
dump it. That's called repentance. When godly sorrow works for
repentance in your heart, you're ready to believe with all
your heart with a faithful little child, because your heart
didn't trust anything else, only trusting this that Jesus really
did die for all your sins. Was Baron and rosem
the dead. We've never done that before.

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Do it now.

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Don't wait un till it's too late, like the old
country preachers saying, like the Word of God says, now,
today is the day of salvation. Folks, you may not
have tomorrow. So right now, with all your heart, believe
that She's really did die for Argenstince was buried in
Rosemam Dead. Well, folks, it's not time for us to
go into our chaplain. Bye by watchmen on the wall,
where again we just take a brief moment to show
you that things are close. Jesus is coming back, really, really,

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really soon. One of the signs of the end was
going to be all kinds of trials and tribulations, and
especially financial. What have we been going through for the
past four years, extreme financial trials. And it's not just us,
it's all around the world. Banks are getting in trouble
all over. The biggest banks in the world are not
in trouble. Economies are going crazy right now. We've got
the big tar off battles going on. It's trouble times, folks.

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And the Bible said, it's going to be trouble times
in every area of life, every area, crime, wars, the economy.
I'm talking about the economy right now, right folks. In fact,
it's going to get to the point where even a
bucket of gold won't buy you a loaf, for it's
going to get so bad in the future. We're heading
to that in that direction right now. It's called the
Tribulation period, when the four horsemen of the Apocalypse scorge

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the earth for seven years, bring hell and torment like
the world's never seen before. Jesus said it'd be like
in the days of Noah, but it's even going to
be worse than that time. So, folks, if you don't
have a safe place, a safe house, a good bunker
prepared for what's coming, you're going to get and it's
gonna be bad for you. Well, I'm gonna give you

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the name of a bunker that will never fail you.
It's called the Jesus Christ Bunker. Go to him right now.
Believe that he died for all your sins with buried
and rose to the dead, and you've got the greatest
safety you could ever have in your life. And you'll
have it forever. Trust in Him right now if you've
never done it before. So, folks, it is not time
for us to close with a mon Saint Martin singing
a creo goodbye and God bless all out

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To call you creel good, bad,