2025-10-01 BBI

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh oh, guess what day it is. Guess what day
it is?

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Huh?

Speaker 3 (00:06):
Anybody, It's hump Day. Yes, it is hump Day. It
is Wednesday. Welcome to this edition of the Big Booing Sider.

Speaker 4 (00:16):
Dick Abriel with you.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
We are one day closer to Kentucky football.

Speaker 4 (00:20):
For better or worse.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Let's face it, it's gonna be tough the Wildcats taking
on Georgia. It's a noon kickoff at Sanford Stadium's one
of my favorite places, maybe my favorite.

Speaker 4 (00:28):
Place in the se Seed to visit. I don't know why.
I just like that stadium. I have covered one win at.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Least when Rich Brooks was the head coach at Kentucky,
but not many down there. And it's gonna be tough
this weekend. Georgia is really good and as you know,
coming off that weekend and as you know, coming off
that loss to Alabama, but we will be there. It's
a noon kickoff. Our pregame coverage begins at ten am
with Christy Thomas, Logan Stenberg and Ricky Lumpkin. So it's
the Cats and the Dogs and a minute we're gonna

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hear from Kentucky offensive coordinator Bush Hamdan also coming up tonight.
It's Wednesday, so we'll hear from the unforgettable guard, Sean Woods.
We'll talk football and basketball with the coach. And also
it is Wednesday meeting our West End Bureau.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Chief Gary Moore will check in.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
He'll talk baseball, got the playoffs that are going on
right now, and of course football and basketball with Gary.
Playoff action yesterday. If you're a Cubs fan, you're happy,
back to back home runs trigger to win over the
Padres in Chicago. If you're a Reds fan, you're kind
of shrugging. I mean, look, you had a pretty good
idea you weren't going to beat the Dodgers. And last

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night Hunter Green gave up way too much. The Reds
bullpen gave up way too much.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
Red's made a run.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
The Dodger bullpen is not very good, and the Reds
were way down at one point ten to two, made
it ten to five, but the Dodgers kind of wriggled
off the hook.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
And now they've got a one zero lead in that
playoff series. But hey, the Reds are there right they're
in the postseason. Maybe they can pull off a miracle,
who knows.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
But if you're American League fan, I'm not with you
because well, we pre record American League games happening in
the afternoon, so I can't keep you posting on that stuff.
But got a chance to watch them playoff baseball yesterday,
which was fun. A little bit later on, we're gonna
hear from two former UK guards entering their second seasons

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in the NBA, and that's of course Reed Shephard and
Rob Dillingham. They both had their ups and downs last year,
as rookies often do, especially undersized rookies who are not
true point guards.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
Both of those.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Guys were hired for their ability to score the basketball,
but they both need to learn how to play defense.
I've been banging that drum since they were in Kentucky.
We will hear from them because it's been media day
week in the NBA and the NBA season, whether you
like it or not, is on the way, and a
lot of you like to keep track of the former wildcasts,

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so we will hear from them coming up a little
bit later on. Also a controversy in the NFL involving
former UK offensive coordinator Liam Cohen, now the head coach
at the Jacksonville Jaguars, that took on a little bit
of clarity and got cleared up a little bit yesterday.
So we will hear more on that coming up in
just a few minutes. But had a chance to listen

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to and talk to Bush hammed In, the Kentucky offensive coordinator,
And the first thing you ask, generally a head coach
or a coordinator after a game like this past Saturday,
is what did you just see.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
In the video? Either good and bad?

Speaker 3 (03:33):
And ham Dan said, obviously a good start, then the
bad stuff began to happen.

Speaker 5 (03:38):
You know, you put your head down, you looked up
and it was a two to three score game, so
there's no way around it. I thought we started fast,
but obviously the third down turnovers and you know, the
interception we had on the glance ball on the right side,
we really didn't recover from that.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Questions came about Cutter Bully, what did he do well?
House he doing? We did talk to Cutter, we'll hear
from him tomorrow. But ham Dan said he talked to
Cutter obviously a lot before and after the.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
Game and said he's fine.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
He's got to take the positives and learn from the negatives.
And I think he's got that. I really do. I
think he's a guy. We talked right after the game.
We talked two nights ago at about ten o'clock at night,
and it was like, hey man, it wasn't perfect, but
I tell you what I mean. I thought he competed,
He showed toughness. He missed a couple of throws, and

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you make those throws and everything's going in different directions,
So I think.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
He wants it.

Speaker 5 (04:35):
I don't think he's scared at all. And that's what
I've learned in two years here, like you better be
confident at that position and want it, and I think
he does.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
As you can see on Saturday, the Wildcats ran the
football well. They've been running the football well really all
year long.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
And there had.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Been talk about the identity of this team going into
the season, throughout the season and it's only what four
games in, but we know by now that the identity is,
first of all, run the football with Seth McGowan. That's
what this team does best. And ham Dan's okay with that.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
We've worked to not be as one dimensional here and
that's continuing the focus right because we need to run
the football, but we've got to we've got to be
balanced and we've got to create some things on the
outside to score points. And frankly, we can't be in
passing situations and just expect to be a traditional, uh

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you know, drop back team. And I think that's maybe
the frustrating part that game got out of hand on
a third and five and a third and eight in
our opinion, and uh, you know, we've got to be
a little bit unconventional and keep our team in a
better position to go win football games.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Ham Dan talked a lot about the fact that they
cannot be one dimensional. It can't just be the run game.
Because what did South Carolina do. They threw everything they
could at stopping McGowan, and then when they got the lead,
they did everything they could to throw their defense at
Cutter bowlie and stop the downfield passing game. And they

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did that. That's why Kentucky. One of the reasons Kentucky
just couldn't make it nowt they had to stop South
Carolina at times and didn't. But they needed to put
pressure on South Carolina by moving to football in the
second half, and they didn't. But it doesn't mean necessarily
that he's going to take more risks throwing the football

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down the field. Or doing things that he shouldn't be
doing in theory, because he said, that's not how to
get ahead in the SEC. You don't do that by
taking more risks. Because I wondered, I asked it, are
you maybe taking more here at Kentucky than you might
have taken at other stops in the past, And he said, no, the.

Speaker 5 (06:47):
More risks you take right now for us, it's been
costly for us in a lot of situations. And I
know we want to you know, everybody wants to sit
around and throw it around to do that and all
those things. But you know right now, like you look
at the games in the SEC that we've been right
in that we've had a chance ole miss particularly last
year Georgia. Last year, it was a very methodical approach

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if you will hold on to the football, keep us
in the game. And so you know, again I'm not
saying that's we're looking to create expulsives and do all
those things, but it's got to be calculated because we
just can't let games get away from us when we
try to do certain things.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
So that's Bush Hampden, Kentucky offensive coordinator, and he'll have
his hands full once again Saturday when the Wildcats played
down at Georgia yesterday. Mark Stuups touched on.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
The fact that the Wildcats had to keep the tight.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Ends in a little bit more as we suspected they
would against South Carolina for blocking purposes. They have those
really good rush ends at South Carolina and they got
to the quarterback.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
Let's face it, a few times.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
May see the same thing down at Georgia, which hampers
the Kentucky offense. You know, if you cannot use Josh
Katis and Willie Rodriguez and the other tight ends the
way you did earlier in the year, of course, it's
just not going to look the same because Cutter Bowley
had so much success throwing to those guys and not
because they're his roommates, but he did connect with them

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a lot. But when you got to bring him in
to chip or just outright block, then, as in him
being talked about this as well, you're only sending three
guys out and they've got the other guys have five
or even seven people in coverage. So that makes it
tougher naturally for the wide receivers to get open. So
maybe Kentucky goes a little quicker. Maybe Kentucky looks for

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the tight ends a little bit more against Georgia. Cutter
did find Willie Rodriguez for a big gainer against South Carolina,
and that's been a huge part of the Kentucky offense
this year. So maybe we see more of that down
in Georgia. They're just gonna have to scheme to make
that happen. Speaking of Josh Gattis, he's on another list,
this time for the Jason Witten Collegiate Man of the

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Year Award. It's the first college football honor to focus
primarily on a players leadership both on and off the field,
and Witten certainly has embodied that.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
And you know as well that.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Earlier this year he was named to the All State
AFCA Good Works Team. He's a semi finalist for the
All State Warful Trophy. But Katis is a guy who
gives off the field and just keeps on giving. Part
of the UK Student Advisory Student Athlete Advisory Council, he
is part of the SEC Football Leadership Council. He's talked

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a lot about giving back. He volunteers, you know, dancing
with Election and Stars. He up raise more than thirty
four thousand dollars for the election and Rotary Club Endowment Fund,
Kentucky Children's Hospital, Dance Blue, part of that movement where
he visits with sick kids and plays games, just hangs out.
So yeah, he's a genuinely good guy, a good person.

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A lot of guys have been named to the watch list.
He is hoping, of course, to be on the semi
finalists list for the Jason Witten Collegiate Man of the
Year selection Committee that's going to come up Tuesday, October fourteenth.
They picked three finalists for the award early December, then
they announced the award on April sixteenth of twenty twenty

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six and the winner gets a ten thousand dollars contribution
in his name to the school's Athletic Scholarship Fund. So
there is that up next controversy in the NFL involving
a former UK assistant that's next on six thirty WLAP
Welcome back to the Big Boon Sider. Coming up next,
we're going to hear from two former UK guards now
in the NBA looking at their second seasons. That's right,

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Reed Shepherd and Rob Dillingham. It was NBA Immediate Day
across the league over the last couple of days so
those guys are looking ahead to doing a lot more
for their respective teams, Houston Rockets for Reed Shepherd, Rob
Dillingham with the Minnesota Timberwolves. And as you know or
I mentioned a couple of weeks ago, Fred Van Vliet
out for the season for the Rockets, which could mean

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more minutes for re Shepherd. So we'll hear from Reid
coming up as well as Rob. But wanted to look
back at the NFL weekend because there were some really
weird things that happened. First of all, good news just
for him. For Dolphins fans, if you've got Tyreek Hill
on your fantasy team, sorry, of course you know you're
done for the rest of the year with him. But
I mentioned the other day he may not come back

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for twenty twenty six. That was dependent upon whether or
not he would need more surgeries. Well, the word is
he will not. He had a major procedure Tuesday. He
dislocated his left knee and tore all the ligaments there,
including his ACL But his agent has told the ESPN
that the doctor said things.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
Went very well.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
He will not need more surgery after this, so it's
about rehab and his agent said he will play next season.
The realistic goal is the start of the season. So
if you're a Tyreek Hill, that's fabulous. You wonder he
is such an explosive player, will he have that explosiveness

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when he comes back? And I'm not a Dolphins fan,
I don't much care about Tyreek Hill, but for his sake,
I certainly hope, of course that he comes back in
for the sake of the league. Lamar Jackson. Again, if
you're a fantasy player, you're wringing your hands because you
may have taken him higher in the draft than you
might have wanted, but it ordinarily would pay off for you. However,

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he could be down two to three weeks with a
hamstring injury. This is a team that cannot afford, of course,
to be without him right now because the Ravens are
off to a terrible start. But Jackson's been playing well,
leading the NFL with ten touchdown passes, averages nine yards
per throw, one thirty point five passer rating. He is

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the Ravens, and he is out or at least a
couple of weeks with that hamstring. So while we're talking quarterbacks,
finally there will be a Gabriel starting a quarterback in
the NFL. It's been a long time coming. I've waited patiently.
Apparently I'm not going to get my turn. But the
Cleveland Browns benching Joe Flacco, the veteran, and turning to

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the rookie out of Oregon, Dylan Gabriel. He will start
in London against the Minnesota Vikings.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
So his friends and.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Family have had to already lay out some cash if
they want to see him play in person. So the
Browns were informed of the quarterback change. Flacco will serve
as the backup. Shador Sanders will remain the number three quarterback.
That's according to ESPN. Flacco started the first four games,
but a guy who is ordinarily really accurate with his

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throws has thrown six picks this year, including a pair
of first half interceptions in the thirty four to ten
loss to Detroit this past weekend. Flaco got in in
the final series in Detroit as he did in the
last position and the loss to the Baltimore Ravens in
Week two, and the coach, Kevin Stefanski, sidestep the question

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about sticking with Flacco in a week five, but they
have made the decision, and because Flacco has an NFL
high eight turnovers and a QBR rating of twenty seven,
better only than cam Ward of the Titans. He's out
and Dylan Gabriel is in taken with a ninety fourth

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pick in April's draft, taken ahead of Shador Sanders. So
quarterback watches on in Cleveland. One other note, and this
was one of the more bizarre storylines following the NFL
On Sunday, you may have seen the clip Robert sala
who is the defensive coordinator now for the San Francisco

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forty nine Ers, formally with the New.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
York Jets as the head coach. He gets fired there.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
He's a good defensive coach, but and you can't blame
everything with the Jets on him, but he gets sacked
and lands on his feet with the forty nine Ers again,
good defensive coordinator well evidently going into the game with
the Jacksonville Jaguars, which the Jaguars won twenty six twenty one.

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Going into the game, Salas said, the Jaguars are and
I'm quoting now almost eliteuote at stealing signs legally. Liam Cohen,
the former UK offensive coordinator now the head coach of
the Jags, did not take it well, and there was
a video clip that made the rounds of Cohen going

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at Sala. They had to be separated, and it was
kind of a hey, what's your deal man sort of thing.
I couldn't hear everything, but Robert Sala, Salah, whatever you
want to call him. Later on, In fact, this was
at the weekly news conference with the Niners when the
head coach and the coordinators talk. Sala addressed it yesterday

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and he reiterated that he wasn't accusing the Jaguar of
doing anything that was against the rules. I feel better
about that, not that it's a big deal to me.
I'm not a Niners fan or a Jags fan. I
kind of root for a Cohen. I root for the
Jags because of Josh heinz Allen and you know the
season he's having, and Luke Fortner was on that team.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
Of course, now he's on the Saints.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
But when I first heard about that, my instant reaction was, hey,
do better, because if another team is stealing your signs legally,
not with video cameras, not putting people in practice sessions
where they shouldn't be and things like that, not doing
Belichickian type stuff.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
No if they're looking across.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
The field having studied game film and picking off your signs, hey,
more's the better. That's gamesmanship. That's why it bugs me
in baseball when inspect there are rules against it. In
the little league, Okay, I get that because kids are learning.
But in the bigs, if a man on second is

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stealing and relaying the catcher signs, that's on the catcher
and the manager and the pitcher and whoever. And my
instant reaction was, hey, do better. If they're stealing your signs,
do better. You're screwing up, and you have no right
really to complain about it. That's why you have signs.
That's why you have signals, because you know you're not

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on the honor system here, nor should you be in
pro football in something like this. No, and so Salah
himself addressed the situation and admitted he chose his words poorly.
He wasn't trying to accuse the Jags of anything.

Speaker 6 (17:41):
I felt a little bit better after hearing this. I,
in my heart, generally was trying to give a compliment then,
and I own the fact that I probably used those
wrong choice of words.

Speaker 7 (17:52):
But however you.

Speaker 8 (17:52):
Want to word it, I mean they're really really good
at putting their players in a position to be successful.
You know, as coaches were always chasing leverage, they're trying
to have winning leverage. We're trying to take leverage.

Speaker 7 (18:03):
Away and.

Speaker 8 (18:05):
Everyone in the league is trying to find every avenue
they can, And as a coach watching their tape, I
recognize the amount of hours that must be spent to
be able to build formations and to find every little
indicator they can to give their players a chance to
be in a successful position. It's exhausting, and there's every

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team does it. Some do it better than others. And
it was my way of acknowledging that these guys are really, really,
really good at it. And you know so, and like
I said Sunday doesn't change that. I think William's doing
a hell of a job. I really do. You can
tell that that team is really taking on his personality,
and you know, I hope they came out of the
game healthy and I wish I'm the best of luck
throughout the rest of the season. But you know, I

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wish I could have found a better choice of wards.
But my intent was always to compliment that football, that staff.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
That's Robert Shallow, the defense coordinator for the forty nine ers,
basically falling on his sword as well he should have.
It wasn't that big a deal, I guess, but it
was to Liam Cohen. But Sally is right head. He said,
film study and not stealing signs. I guarantee you that
Liam Cohen would not have clapped back at him. But
glad that's been put to bed. Glad there's peace in

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the valley now in the NFL, all right. Coming up next,
we're gonna hear from two former Kentucky guards about moving
ahead in the NBA. That's next here on six point
thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the Big Bloom Cider. Coming
up in hour number two, Sean Woods, the unforgettable guard.
We'll talk some football and basketball, and of course it's Wednesday,

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so West End Bureau Chief.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
Gary Moore will join us.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
It is NBA time around the country, and I know
most of you in this area shrugged dead off. You
don't like the NBA. Understandable. I didn't either before I
moved to Dallas, Texas. I just thought it was just
something to watch every now and then. And I was
with you on the my defense being played before I
moved to an NBA city, got season tickets, and learned

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that that's not true at all. And I always say
this that in almost every NBA game, there's a play
or a moment that, if it happened in a college
game once in a while, you would rub your forehead
and think, how in the world did that happen. You

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would tell somebody about it at work. The next day,
you would go home and watch the replay of just
this incredible move that a player made on your team
or against your team, or whatever. That happens in an
NBA game every night, sometimes more than once. I mean,
they're just great basketball players.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
Then they do play defense. We've mentioned that many times, but.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
It's a different brand of basketball, which is why guys
like Reed Shepherd and Rob Dillingham struggled last year. And
they're moving into their second seasons and this is the
kind of year. It's kind of a make or break.
We're going to see what they learned. Their teams are
going to see it more than importantly than we are,
because their numbers were similar. Shepherd played sparingly up and

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down with Houston four and a half points a game,
one and a half rebounds, one and a half assists,
shot only thirty five percent, Dillingham four and a half
points per game, two assists per contest. He shot actually
better forty four percent. But Dillingham gets to the rim
more than Reeed Shepherd does read more of an outside shooter. Now, Reid,
we'll get a chance to play more. As we've said before,

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Fred Van Vliet, the starting point guard for the Houston Rockets,
out all year with an injury. Dillingham will come off
the bench again for the Timberwolves. Reid will get a
chance to start. Probably won't, but we'll play a lot
more minutes, I would think in Dillingham, but they'll both
be given the opportunity. And this being media day time,
we heard from both players within the last twenty four hours,

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and Reed started his news conference is Q and A
talking about just how much better he feels about himself
going into his second NBA season.

Speaker 7 (22:07):
My confidence is right now is at an all time high.
You know, I feel really comfortable with where I am.

Speaker 9 (22:13):
And my body, and you know, just being here the
last last month, just continuing to get in the gym,
get stronger, you know, kind of getting the hang of
things with the guys and just kind of getting to
flow into chemistry. So I'm really excited, really looking forward
to the season.

Speaker 10 (22:30):
Christine.

Speaker 11 (22:31):
I so you've probably watched Kevin dround the play since
you were a little kid.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
What's it like now to be playing alongside someone of
his caliber.

Speaker 7 (22:39):
Yeah, No, it's really cool.

Speaker 9 (22:41):
You know, like you said, I've been watching them since
I was a little kid, So it was really cool.
You know, the first time we were able to play together,
and just being able to watch them work out and
and all, that's really really cool, you know it is.
Obviously he's really good, so I'm excited to excited to
play with him.

Speaker 12 (22:57):
Yeah, after coming back up to your rookie season, Now,
what do you think you gained having going through that
first season, not getting as many minutes at first, and
starting to see that grow getting a chance to.

Speaker 7 (23:10):
See what it's like to be in the postseason.

Speaker 12 (23:12):
What do you think you've grown and in what ways
have you grown that way this coming into the season.

Speaker 9 (23:17):
Man, I think I think so much. You know, I
could I could talk about that one for a long time.
You know, I learned so much last year with everything basketball,
non basketball, everything is just a whole different, different way
of life. So you know, I'm really excited for this year,
ready to get things going. I had a great, great offseason,
great summer, so I'm really excited about before to get

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things going.

Speaker 13 (23:41):
Hey read, when did you focus on this summer and
where did you see the biggest I guess gems in
in your game?

Speaker 14 (23:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (23:48):
I think the biggest thing is is my body.

Speaker 10 (23:51):
You know.

Speaker 7 (23:51):
I feel like I took my my weights to a
different level.

Speaker 9 (23:56):
And then the first like three weeks of the summer,
I was straight straight defense.

Speaker 7 (24:01):
I was here in Houston working uh straight defense.

Speaker 9 (24:03):
I didn't touch the ball for like the first thirty
minutes of my workouts. It wasn't very fun, but but
it was good.

Speaker 7 (24:10):
You know, I learned a lot. So I really feel
like I got I got a lot better in that
area of the game.

Speaker 15 (24:15):
Like a wee anger work with Kevin this far, any
shooting competitions between the two.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
Ball and how those comments far?

Speaker 9 (24:21):
No, No, no shooting competitions, but hopefully hopefully we can.
We can get some shooting competition sometime, but it'll be
it'll be closet.

Speaker 7 (24:30):
I think, what do you talk about how excited you
are about the subcoming season?

Speaker 16 (24:36):
Serious as a competitor, how much do you religious opportunity
knowing that this team movie relying on you to get
into it.

Speaker 7 (24:42):
Its Yeah, I'm super excited.

Speaker 14 (24:45):
You know.

Speaker 9 (24:45):
I think being able to play the game and being
able to be a part of the team is what
this is all about.

Speaker 7 (24:51):
So I'm just really excited, like you said, to get
things go on and and just to compete. You know,
competing is one of my favorite parts about the game
with basketball.

Speaker 9 (25:00):
So just being able to go out every night and
just compete and play every game to win and just
be the best player that I can be.

Speaker 7 (25:07):
I'm just really excited.

Speaker 9 (25:09):
How different do you think the offense will look at
times when I'm in is running the show versus when
you were running the show this season? Well, Amend's a
little faster, a little more athletic. No, but uh, you know,
I think I think it'll be fun. You know, Like
I said, I I've said the whole time. I'm just
I'm really excited. You know, Amend's a tremendous athlete, a

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tremendous player, So you know, it it'll be it will
it'll be different just because we're different players, but at
the same time, it'll be it'll be the same so
I'm just I'm really excited to get going and playing
with them and playing with everybody else.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
Uh read back in May.

Speaker 16 (25:46):
If I'm not mistaken, that tornado hit a school in
your hometown. What didn't mean to you to be able
to go back and to help those families get back
on their feet, and especially the ones who getting ready
to start, who started school.

Speaker 8 (25:58):
As far as giving back backpacks to foundation.

Speaker 7 (26:01):
Yeah, it meant everything.

Speaker 9 (26:03):
You know, where I'm from when it's not very big,
So when when stuff like that happens, you kind of
know know most of the people that it affects. So
it was it was hard to see it definitely, definitely was.
But you know, being able to go back home this
summer and you know, kind of help help. I couldn't
do much, but being able to to give some backpacks

(26:24):
and to give some things with some families in need
and just help help the family and the community is
in many ways as I could was really special to
me and my family.

Speaker 7 (26:34):
So being able to do that for the hometown, it was.
It was special.

Speaker 9 (26:37):
But you know, I appreciate you asking. They're they're all
they're doing better. Everyone's on the build up now, so
we're doing get thinking.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
That's read Shepherd at Houston Rockets media day, and it
was great that he got a chance to talk about
his work down there in London after the tornadoes, and
you saw pictures and video of him, so yeah, good
on him.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
Rob Dellingham with the.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
Timber Wolves talked about how he has worked hard in
the off season and how he'll try to better fit.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
Into his team this year.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
I'm really not expecting too much.

Speaker 13 (27:08):
I just want to win games, and however that happens,
is gonna happen, So not really expecting, just ready to play.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
How did you kind of get through the first year.

Speaker 17 (27:17):
It's not probably getting as much playing time as you
wanted to, but staying focused on the bigger picture of
trying to build something here.

Speaker 13 (27:25):
I just took it as a learning experience. And we
were winning anyway, so it's like I can't be mad
at all. So I took it as a learning experience.
Learned from like our wins, how vet players carry themselves
in the wins even in the losses. So I just
took as a learning experience and ran with it.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Mike had mentioned.

Speaker 18 (27:45):
Mike had mentioned that over the offseason, you guys have
worked out a lot, just what have you learned from
those workouts and how has that prepared you for kind
of taking that step this season.

Speaker 13 (27:56):
I say, really just like all around playmaking, learning how
my game fits in with the team and him helping
me with that, but also like more specifically just like
balance on shots, how I'm shooting the shots, and yeah,
a lot of things for sure.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Rob Chris was kind of taught.

Speaker 18 (28:14):
Coach French was kind of talking about when young player
comes to the league, sometimes they see themselves as the
way they played their entire life and having it adjust
to a new way of playing. How have you adjusted
maybe to what they see you possibly as in terms
of contribution, but still balance what you do best, I.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Mean, to win games and to get to your team
to like you.

Speaker 13 (28:38):
You got to play the right way and fit in
the best way with the team in which all the
players like fit in. So at first it was a
little hard because like, I've never had to play with
so many good players, and I've always been one of
the best players. But I feel like now playing practice
and everything, it's definitely helped me. And I mean, at

(29:01):
first my confidence was a little ratto, but now I
feel like I'm not gonna change anything or not anything.
Black everything about who I am. My confidence is who
I am as a person. I'm just gonna fit into
what we need and also be confident at the same time.

Speaker 15 (29:17):
Rob, I remember last year you saying this was the
first team you'd really been asked to play defense. You know,
it really really guard there, and then Finch and the
coaching staff were very complimentary of you taking that get
focused on that and and executing on that set of
the floor. Is there an area like that for you
this year where you're like, this is the thing I

(29:38):
want to prove that. You know, maybe I didn't do
it last year, but I can do it. Is there
an area of the game.

Speaker 13 (29:44):
I would say, if anything, it would be defense, shot making,
hitting open shots. But I really feel like all I
need is some experience for to show so I'm not
really worried about one thing. I feel like overall I've
been working and watching film, so Obam would be a
solid player for our team.

Speaker 9 (30:04):
Rob just wanted to get your thoughts on have your
own player exclusive with Nike actually come out to the public.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
How cool was that for you that moment. I appreciate
that's it was definitely crazy for sure.

Speaker 13 (30:17):
I mean, you always thought of having your own shoe,
even though it's not my own shoe yet, but just
the idea of having it, and especially with Nike, always
been a long time dream.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
So it's a blessing for sure. Rob Kindem.

Speaker 19 (30:29):
As you reflected on last season, what was maybe one
or two things you've learned about life in the NBA,
whether on court off the court, how to navigate the
dynamics of the team that maybe you weren't expecting coming
in that you take him.

Speaker 14 (30:41):
To this year.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
I would say, really, just like.

Speaker 13 (30:46):
I learned early, like with flights and everything landing at
a certain time, like you gotta take your sleep series
and your recovery serious. So I learned that early last year.
But I feel like that's a big thing and what
I'm gonna carry into this here too.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
So Dillingham made it sound like he's just gonna go
with the flow, but you know, he's got.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
To work on his defense, He's got to work on
everything really, but both of these guys have to work
on their defense. And coming up a little bit later on,
we're going to talk. As I said, with Shawn Woods,
the unforgettable guard.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
He is a guy who is known.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
For defense, likes defense coaches it hard.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
Played it hard, and realizes of course the value as
a head coach of defense. But we'll talk about that
with regard to these two guys.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
We'll talk to Sean about both Red and Rob coming
up in our number two. But up next, Mark Pope
reading mean tweets with the guys from the field of
sixty eight. It's pretty entertaining. He along with Matt Painter
and Pat Kelsey, two opposing head coaches on the Kentucky
schedule this year Purdue Exhibition and then of course the

(31:49):
Louisville Cardinals that's next here on six thirty WLAP. Welcome
back to the Big Blue Insider. Coming up in our
number two. Unforgettable Guard Shawn Woods and our West End
or chief Gary Moore coming up next week on October
the seventh UK Pro Day.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
That's Tuesday. It is not open to the public, but
you can see it via the UK network.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
It'll be on SEC Plus with yours truly and Jack
Gibbons who worked at last year with Jack had a
great time, great way to learn the players, great chance
for you to see the Wildcats for the first time
even before madness. Of course, Madness comes up on October eleventh.
You've also got Blue White Action coming up. But if
you tune in Pro Day, you can really get a

(32:33):
good look at this year's team and some of the
skills that the pros will be looking for. And of
course you can check out you know, Rheese Potter, Jalen Lowe,
Jaden Quaintans who won't be at full strength, and I
don't know what he'll be able to do, if anything,
probably not. But Cam Williams, you've got the four signees,

(32:53):
Braden Hawthorne, Andrea Yelovich, Jasper Johnson, Malachai Marino. You got
the guys coming back from last year's team as well,
And we will talk to practically everybody, including Mark Pope.
We won't talk to the scouts, but all thirty NBA
teams are expected to have somebody there.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
At Pro Day.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
And you got to tip your cap to John Caliperry
for this. This was his baby, because back I think
it started, if not with that team that sent five
guys to the first round, it started shortly thereafter. There
were so many NBA scouts wanting to come. May have
started with the National Championship team. Quite frankly, but there
were so many scouts wanting to come to practice that

(33:34):
Cali Peri put on his promotional director cap and came
up with pro Day and they put together event, an
event that ESPN immediately jumped on. And now it's of
course on the SEC network, as we said, on SEC Plus,
so we'll have it for you. It starts at five
thirty on Tuesday this coming Tuesday, October seventh. Speaking of

(33:59):
Mark Pope, he sat down with Jeff Goodman of the
Field of sixty eight, he and Rob Dowster and they
were making the rounds of college basketball programs stopped in
lexingon and one of the features, you know, they do
long interviews with the coaches, and one of the features
they did cribbing shamelessly from Jimmy Kimmel and why not.

Speaker 4 (34:20):
It's a great idea. Mean tweets And.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
I've seen other elements other walks of life, show business, sports,
whatever you use mean the mean tweets format, and they
used it. Some of the tweets were generated by them,
but they had the coaches, Mark Pope, Matt Painter, Pat
Kelsey reading the mean tweets. You can tell Pope and

(34:44):
you can tell Kelsey. The other guy is Matt Painter,
and it's actually pretty interesting. And here it is courtesy
of the Field of sixty eight.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
So you know, mean tweets, I knew you would.

Speaker 9 (34:57):
I knew you to join this.

Speaker 14 (34:58):
More like an am.

Speaker 7 (35:00):
I right.

Speaker 12 (35:02):
I created a petition fire Matt Painter signed the petition.

Speaker 14 (35:06):
Do you know how many people ended up signing that petition?

Speaker 15 (35:09):
Twoe Goodman.

Speaker 17 (35:10):
Pat Kelsey's biggest fear is the height requirement sign at
amusement parks. That's pretty good. I like, that's pretty good.
I do glance at fire Pat Kelcey. Seriously, he won't
ever win a big game, just like back in like
high school, my my ex girlfriend.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Fire Mark Pope.

Speaker 14 (35:30):
There, I said it.

Speaker 15 (35:31):
He's done less with more than.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Any coach I can think of. Fire Mark Pope.

Speaker 15 (35:37):
This guy is a joke.

Speaker 14 (35:40):
Hashtag trash can tucky I've never heard.

Speaker 15 (35:46):
I love that people care so much.

Speaker 12 (35:48):
I love it.

Speaker 17 (35:49):
Are Pat Kelsey and Travis Kelcey related because they're both
really stupid?

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Did he?

Speaker 17 (35:55):
I think he spelled Kelsey on Travis kelce.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
Robbie Home I would have been in an NBA All Star.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
He might be right. Get ready for this one.

Speaker 17 (36:07):
UK will be Pat Kelsey's daddy now and forever.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Hope he gets used to it.

Speaker 10 (36:12):
That is awesome.

Speaker 15 (36:13):
Let's freaking go some more.

Speaker 9 (36:15):
Okay, you know that there may be some difficult emotions
here because this is from call the Hogs.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Tons of love for you, brother or sister.

Speaker 17 (36:23):
Doesn't Mark Polpe have someone's grandma to go FaceTime after this?

Speaker 1 (36:27):
L that's good? That is good Twitter.

Speaker 19 (36:31):
Matt Panner really should have taken the Indiana job.

Speaker 14 (36:34):
False, that's fake news.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
I never tweeted that, Jeff good Men.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
The name picking Upstein for the San Diego opening is
Utah Valley's Mark Polpe.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
Not sure that could be a big mistake.

Speaker 17 (36:49):
It has got to be some yahoo at Goodman Hoops
Man Winthrop coach Pat Kelsey plays more dudes than anyone
I've ever seen. Just subbed in four guys with eighteen
oh seven left in the first half. Crazy that dude
will never make it to the power.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Mean tweets courtesy of the Field of sixtyeight dot com.
We had Jeff Goodman on the show a while back.
Need to get him back on to talk about this
year's basketball season. And by the way, these coaches are
in a great mood. Because they're gonna have good teams,
especially Matt Painter, although he's got the pressure now of
the preseason number one ranking. Field of sixty eight has
them number one. Sports Illustrated has them as the consensus

(37:33):
preseason number one, and by the way, coming on Friday,
speaking of preseason polls, my man Cameron Mills will join
us here in the garage and we'll get him going
on preseason polls. He hates them, but he's also been
to practice, so we'll get a chance to learn more
about the Wildcats. But Louisville is thought of highly, in fact,
more than the Wildcats. Preseason, they are ranked number five

(37:57):
by at least one poll, a field of sixty eight
it has them seventh.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
I think it is.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
But yeah, Kelsey's got a good team and obviously feels
good about them, but again he's got some pressure on
him now. They did a nice job last year, just
like Kentucky. That's what's fascinating about UK and U of L.
Both had to completely rebuild their programs and they did
it in a big way. They won a lot of
games and satisfied fans, not completely because neither team got

(38:26):
to the final four naturally, but yeah, fan bases are
happy now, they're giddy, they're looking forward to.

Speaker 4 (38:32):
What's coming up.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
And in fact, the Wildcats are ranked seventh by the
Field of sixty eight.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
How about that.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
That's maybe the highest preseason ranking they've got, others having
everybody's got him in the top twenty five. But I
think Field of sixty eight maybe appreciates them more.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
Than some of the other services do. So at any rate,
should be a fun year.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
If everybody says healthy fingers crossed up next, we're number two.

Speaker 4 (38:57):
Stay with us here on six thirty wap.

Speaker 20 (39:02):
Such such.

Speaker 10 (39:14):
Tasting the show can.

Speaker 20 (39:46):
Think anything, then.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
St welcome back to the big Blue and cider and

(40:47):
joining us now as he does every Wednesday, is the
unforgettable guard Sean Woods. And he is the head coach
at Scott County High and of course a longtime college
coach and one of the unforgettables in UK basketball history. Coach,
let me ask you this. Earlier in the show, I
played some comments from Reed Shepherd and Rob Dillingham. We
all enjoyed watching them play at Kentucky. They were the

(41:10):
center of kind of a mini controversy. They didn't start,
and yet here they are in the NBA, and they
did not play a lot last year in the NBA
primarily because neither one of them was very good at guarding.
And I always maintain when they were at Kentucky that yeah,
they came off and provide an instant offense, which I
really like coming off the bench, and they had a

(41:32):
hard time guarding, although Reid's defensive instincts were really good
when it came to team defense. But tell me a
little bit about trying to teach defense. First of all,
what can these guys do at the highest level. You know,
you were in an NBA camp, You know how good
they are. And it's a fallacy to say they don't
play defense in the NBA.

Speaker 4 (41:51):
Of course they do.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
What are these guys up against right now? I know
they're not very big, but they do have athletic ability.

Speaker 14 (42:01):
Well, it's got to you know, playing defense, especially one
on one defense, has got to be want to. It's
got to be pride. And you know, when you've been
an offensive juggernaut your whole life, and everything's been predicated
about you, it's been offense, and nobody has made you
really say, hey, compete and stop that guy instead of

(42:24):
don't guard the other team's best player, especially when you're
high school, because we don't want you to get in
foul trouble. You know, habits become habits, and you know
when you have never been demanded to play defense your
whole career as a kid growing up, everything's been offense
and trying to keep you away from really playing defense

(42:46):
because you've been the best player on your team. It's
hard to just turn it on. You know, some people
got it in them. It's just like you know, you
a point guard is born and not made a guy
who really defense and has pride in defending and takes,
you know, and really buys into it. You know that
that that's that's that's boring in you. That's a competitive

(43:09):
trait that you have. And right now you know I
you know both of them. I thought Reid is a
really really good off the ball, off the ball defender.
He's really good at playing the passing lanes and things
like that. Rob just never gave a crap about playing defense.
Rob was like, Hey, I've been a score, I've been
a a YouTube and and uh and a and a

(43:33):
highlighte phenom that you know, defense has just never been
part of my DNA and nobody really made me play defense.
Now I'm at the highest level, and you know, my
offense is just as good. Uh, you know, everybody else's
offense is just as good as mine. And I'm not
the biggest person in the world. I got to bring

(43:54):
something else to the table. And you know, when you
don't bring a physicality to the table and make it tough,
because in the NBA, you're not going to stop anybody,
but you got to make it tough and compete on
the other, you know, on the other side of the ball.
And when you don't do that, it sticks out glaringly.
And as a coach, it's hard to play you because
you're looking for some type of resistance guarding somebody else.

(44:19):
And when you don't have that, you know, it kind
of you know, leads a bad taste in the coach's
now from a trust standpoint, and you know, you got
another guy who's not as gifted or as gifted as
you offensively that really competes on another level more than
you do. That's the guy that I'm going to play.
So you know that that's what it is. And you know,

(44:43):
you know everybody's going to this offensive deal and nobody
wants to coach hard anymore. And you know, I saw
a really good clip on Danny Hurley about it. You know,
and until things change, you know, the demand to make
kids play harder, the demand to make kids whole kids
responsible on the defensive end, because that's when coaches really

(45:05):
get into you in practice on the defensive end. Now
they're walking on eggshells, coaching real, real hard. This is
what you're gonna get. And if it's not really empty
in you and your soul, then you're gonna be the
one who's gonna be like a Reed Shepherd and a
Rob Dillingham.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
Patino made that evident to you guys very quickly, didn't it.
You're gonna guard or you ain't gonna play.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
And we didn't have the most athletic guys in the world,
but we had guys that competed.

Speaker 14 (45:34):
There's a difference. You know, you got guys that you
know who were coach hard in high school. You know,
Bill might run your coach John Pelfrey hard in high school.
You know Allen Fellhouse coach Darren Hard in high school.
You know, Richie was probably the one guy that did
not was the least from a defensive standpoint, But I'll
tell you what, at the end of the day, you

(45:56):
just went and go and buy Richie Farmer. You know,
he was going to compete and make it tough on you.
Even though he wasn't the best defender in the world,
he competed enough to to not just give you Beline
drives to the basket. So you know, we all were
coached hard, you know, And that was my DNA because
I coach told me not to shoot, so he made
he kept me mad all the time.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
So I want to just dominate the other point guard
on the other side of the ball. So you know,
it's a different world now. And you know, I go
over and watch Mark Pope.

Speaker 14 (46:26):
Maam, and you know, I say, you know, how good
are you guys defensively? And all they're saying is, well,
we got more physical guys. No, that's not the question
that I'm asking you. Are we really getting better defensively?
You know, I know it's working harder on it, but
are we getting better or are we just depending on
you know, guys, more physical attributes from you know what
I'm saying body wise and things like that, or are

(46:48):
we really buying in and really getting after it defensively,
like you're supposed to. So you know, some people do
you know, that's the reason why coach Patino's teams are tough.
That's the reason why Houston it's tough. That's the reason
why Connecticut is tough. You know, you got to defend.
And I think my man down in Florida is underrated

(47:08):
as far as defending, because I thought they did a
really good job last year getting to the Final four
and winning it. On the defensive side of the ball.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
Well, you got all those metrics that show that unless
you are a top and the history shows this, unless
you're a top I don't remember thirty or whatever, defensive team,
defensive efficiency or whatever, you won't get to the final four.

Speaker 14 (47:28):
I mean, that's just let's get Loyola Marymount.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
Yeah. Yeah, they were fun to watch.

Speaker 14 (47:34):
They were fun to watch. I mean, they had everything
going from a Paul West had had the thing going
with Hank Gatherers and all those guys. But guess what, though,
they did not play defense. And at the end of
the day, when that ball's not bouncing good and you're
playing against another defensive juggernaut that's going to stop that
fast pace. Now you got to get a stop and

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you don't. That's the reason why those teams don't make
it to the mountains.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
They couldn't get the ball out of the net fast
enough to trigger their own offense. But you're right, I mean,
and watching them, you had to Hey, they're fun, but
they ain't gonna win the title, you know. And it
didn't work in the NBA either. It's funny you mentioned
Richie because Richie was I think the poster child for
don't get in foul trouble. You know, don't guard too
hard because we don't need you on the bench. We

(48:22):
need you out here scoring for us.

Speaker 4 (48:24):
But I also like the.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
Word resistance you use, especially when it comes to the NBA.
You're not gonna stop anybody, but it's all about the
resistance and making them work harder to get off a
shot and make a shot. And when it comes to
coaching hard, Sean, I understand exactly what you're saying, but
I'm wondering too, you're still gonna have kids. I mean,

(48:47):
everybody thinks they're going to be an NBA player. They
want to be an NBA player, But at what point
will they embrace the fact that they need to be
coached hard, especially when it comes to defense if they
want to make it to the NBA, because for a
lot of kids, it's too late, isn't it.

Speaker 14 (49:06):
It is? And you know what when you get you
know now to the way that the way things are
the dynamics of college basketball, kids get coach hard. Now
they're leaving. They want to go to the point of
the assistence. So instead of getting better and getting tougher
to prepare you for all the things that you have
to be prepared for at the NBA level. Because at

(49:27):
the NBA level, always remember everybody can play. What's gonna
what's gonna separate you? Are you going to get make?
You know what I'm saying, these teams down of the
way coaches are getting fired. They want guys that can compete.
And if you don't compete at that level and you
and it's not knowrm for you, then you're going to
be a person that's going to be out because you know,

(49:50):
they won't consistency on that level. And you know, if
you don't have it, you know, like dying on ball screams,
you know, things like that, and I see Rob and
I see Jeff, I mean read doing that instead of
fighting over real tough and things like that, you know,
bringing a physicality on the other side of the ball

(50:11):
to the game. And if you don't do that, then
you know you better be really, really prolistic. And if
you're not prolific, then you know you're gonna be where
they are. You know, two talented kids that are having
a hard time getting off the bench because when they
do get minutes offensively, both of them can school with
the best of them. You're scoring twenty five and your

(50:33):
man is scoring twenty five around the problem.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
That's true.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
I was gonna say, it's gonna be hard to get
to that second contract playing that way. We're talking to
Sean Woods, the unforgettable guard. He is the head coach
of Scott County High School. We'll come back and talk
more with Sean on the other side of the break
here on six thirty WLAP Welcome back. We're talking with
Sean Woods. The head coach of Scott County High School.
Is Jersey hangs in the rafters of Rup. By the way,
Kyle Macy had another book signing at a book signing

(50:59):
two or Sean and sold out of the books he
had in McCloud's coffee shop on Sunday, of course, the
book is a companion piece to the TV show. That's
a book you're in, and he and I both talked
about the fact that it would be a great companion
to any Kentucky basketball player reading that book and learning
about you. Guys, they're all standing on your shoulders. I

(51:22):
know that's important to you, and I know a lot
of guys do understand, and a lot of guys are
gonna know you just because you're the guy who.

Speaker 4 (51:27):
Hit that shot right before the shot.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
But wouldn't it be great if Kentucky ball players needed
to sit down and learn about the history as you
did on your own of UK basketball big time?

Speaker 14 (51:40):
And that was one of the things that was gratifying
to me coaching the TVT team. Oh yeah, I got
a chance to really sit down and get to know
these guys and listen to their stories, and then they
got to listen to mine from a purity standpoint, because
there's a lot of things that these new guys don't
know about Kentucky basketball, because I hear long enough. You know,

(52:02):
the aura of Kentucky basketball. Being a Kentucky basketball player
is totally different. You know, they don't get to really
experience Lexington Kentucky. They don't really get to experience, you know,
what Big Blue Nation is all about, because they're so
you know that that you know, because of social media
and things like that, and I get it, but being

(52:25):
a Kentucky basketball player is so much more than just
you know, running out there in Repperena. It's more than that.
The experience and then the lifelong experiences and friendships that
we were allowed to to accumulate. That's what makes being
a Kentucky basketball players so great. And it's unfortunate that

(52:48):
these guys don't get to experience that as a Kentucky
basketball player. And caw was is dead on. You know,
Cal was around us, Jack was around us. I mean,
I'm great friends with all those guys, all the guys
that I played with and things like that. It's like
we may not see each other, we may not see
Kyle Macy or Jack, but when we do see him,

(53:10):
Dwayne Casey's and Leval Williams, all those guys, it's like
we you know, it's like we've been together, you know,
we never miss a beat. But with these new guys,
it's not like that they're looking to kind of stand
the office a little bit. They don't know how to
come and approach us. You know, they don't feel comfortable
because they really don't know the significance of being a

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Kentucky basketball player.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
Yeah, exactly, you know.

Speaker 14 (53:37):
And now you got you know, Whitney coming back. Well,
you know, his experience just in a short time, he
and I got to be close a little bit, and
you know, and now this kid, who who didn't even
spend six months in Lexington wants to come here and
move live here, really, you know, just from his experience
of TVT WOW from Chicago, you know, and how rough

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it is scha he don't. He wants to live somewhere
where's pleasant. You know, why he's in his off season
and things like that, and what better place being a
Kentucky basketballer player to live? And then let's they take Kentucky.

Speaker 4 (54:10):
That's great. Love to hear that. That's really interesting.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
But no, you're right, it's it's a fraternity, you know,
and the longer you're in it, the more relationships you make.

Speaker 4 (54:19):
So that's that's great to hear. I really like hearing that.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
On another topic, earlier in the show, I talked about
the fact that Liam Cohen got into it with the
Niners decoordinator over signs stealing. Although the Niners decoordinator was
really being complimentary about the amount of work it took
for the Jaguars, it looked like to successfully legally steal

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the Niners or other teams signals, you know, which is
part of sport. It's gamesmanship. And as I said, if
it's done legally and not, you know, illegally sending guys
to practice with a video camera whatever, that's all well
and good. But how are you when it comes to gamesmanship?
And I'm not exactly sure. I guess there's things you
can do in the basketball world, uh, you know. In

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other words, I've heard guys like you and and other
really good defenders calling out a team's play before they.

Speaker 4 (55:13):
Even run it. That to me is some gamesmanship as well.
Where do you come down on that?

Speaker 14 (55:19):
No doubt, I'm trying to get all the information I
could possibly get from that team, you know what I mean? Yeah,
and you know, as long as I'm not you know,
don't have a camera in there while they're doing it.
But you know, everybody does it. You know, whatever call
it is, you're looking over at the bench to see
if you can hear a call before they make the play,
you know, set up to play or hear see signals.

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You know, we're trying to pick up all that, sure,
you know, and then when we can, when we play
a team, we called the team that they played prior to,
especially if they're not in the same we're not on
the same conference, to get calls. You know, that's that's
part of gamelesmanship. And coaches call other coaches that you know,
long as you're not playing against each other, so on
and so forth, to get calls. That's that's normal. I

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don't see what's roll with that. I don't see what's
wrong with that at all. You know what I'm saying.
I mean that that's part of trying to get an edge.
Everybody's gonna try to find out my calls, so I'm
gonna try to find out your calls.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
You know, I don't.

Speaker 14 (56:18):
I don't see why that's a big deal. You know,
it's it is gamesmanship. It is trying to get an edge.
You know, back in the day, you used to can
live scout. Remember you used to could go as coaches
can if you weren't playing, and you know you had
a team was coming up that you were going to play.
You're going to watch them play, and you're gonna try
to sit as close you possibly could to the to

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the bench and try to hear their calls, you know,
so on and so forth. So that's that's normal. You know,
when you playing in the NCAA tournament, you may play
the first game, okay, the second game, you're you know,
as a head coach, your assistant coach is gonna stay
and watch that team play that you're going to play
next because they're trying to figure out what you're doing
with that.

Speaker 3 (56:59):
See that at the tournament, you see an entire staff
sitting there at the press table charting plays. But I
remember Sewan when I was young, which was a long
time ago, sitting next.

Speaker 4 (57:10):
To scouts coaches and they had a stack of.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
You know, uh there were probably mimiographs back then of
just you know, the basketball, and they were drawing plays
as they were happening. You know, here's what this team
does on this out of bounds play and stuff like that. Yeah,
I got no problem. No one should have any problem
with that.

Speaker 14 (57:30):
No, let's call competitiveness. If you're not doing it, then
shame on you.

Speaker 4 (57:34):
Yeah that's true. You're not going to be you're not
going to be successful.

Speaker 14 (57:38):
How can you not be How can you be successful
if you're not trying to get every ads that you
probably possibly can.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
We're not talking about cheating either, No, that's not cheating.

Speaker 14 (57:48):
That's being competitive, that's being smart, that's trying to gain
an edge. That's what that's all that is.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
Look, there's a reason that football teams back away from
the line of scrimmage and huddle up so the other
team can't hear what they're talking about exactly, you know.

Speaker 4 (58:03):
So yeah, that's all part of it.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
But again Salah used the word leverage, and again he
went back and said, I used a poor choice of words.
I should have said film study, which are sacred words,
and especially in football, they are for you guys as well,
But it seems like football it's especially important. But he
used the word left. We're trying to get leverage on them.
They're trying to get leverage on us, And that's what
it's all about, isn't it.

Speaker 14 (58:26):
Hey, When you when you watch football teams now and
the coaches they can't even talk to each other normally.
They they're holding the play cards to play card over
their face while they're talking to somebody because you got
people that can relift you know what I'm saying. It's
gotten that deep, but that's part of it.

Speaker 4 (58:42):
And people think, people think that's crazy, but it was happening.
They were hiring whatever edge you can get.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
Well, Sean Woods will be looking for the edge win
in Scott County Cardinals beginning of the season. I know
you got the date circled on your calendar. What's your
first game?

Speaker 2 (58:59):
What day?

Speaker 14 (59:01):
Well, we got to we start off with a little
jamboree December. I mean, I'm sorry, October fourteenth, November fourteenth,
I'm sorry at Dunbar High School jamboree. But playing against
Fire and Creek. So that's our first actual game playing
against somebody else in the fall. So looking forward to it.

Speaker 4 (59:21):
Sounds good to me. Coach, Thanks for your time as always,
and we'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 14 (59:25):
All right, Take care, Betty up next.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
West End Bureau Chief Gary Moore here on six thirty
WLAP Welcome back to the Big Bloom Cider. It is
Wednesday meeting. Our West End Bureau Chief. Gary Moore joins
us from the other end of I sixty four. For
the longest time was our West Coast Bureau chief back
now in LA the Louisville area, and he joined us
with two guys in a six pack, lots on his mind.

Speaker 4 (59:46):
Well, I thought it was going to be.

Speaker 11 (59:48):
I thought about you because I thought it was gonna
it started off as a perfect weekend for you last
weekend Trinity over Saint X yeay buddy game of the
city here, and then there was that Sunday night thing,
which we're not going to talk about. So we'll get
into this right now, our first swig. As we're here
in the six pack. One month into the college football season,
we got two D one schools here in the Commonwealth,

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each with four wins, one's undefeated other than just one loss,
and both conveniently located off I sixty five, and both
are playing this weekend. Up First, my four and one
Hilltoppers tied for first Conference USA visiting new conference member
Delaware Friday night, seven o'clock on the CBS Sports Network.
Blue Hens are now a two and a half point favorite.

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Then on Saturday, you got the unranked four and oh
Louisville Cardinals home against ACC foe number twenty four of Virginia.
The Who's coming in fresh off that double ot win
over number eight Florida State Saturday afternoon, three thirty. That's
on ESPN. Two cards finally finally wanted pitt after they
finally woke up from looking so lethargic and sporting Pit

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spotting pit a seventeen to nothing first quarter lead. So
uf L is a seven point favorite on Saturday. If
they win this and go to five and oh, I
ask you, then do they finally crack the top twenty
five next week?

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
I would think so because right now, Virginia is the
media darling after that incredible game on Friday, and I
got to watch most of that in the hotel down
at South Carolina. Then I watched a lot of the
Louisville game. I'll be honest with you, I gave up
on that game because, as you said, Louisville was so lethargic.
But you wonder, Gary, is this a bit of a
trap game because you've got Miami on the other side

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for Louisville on the schedule. But the fact that they
can show those kids that as they call it, film
the video of Virginia doing I mean everything right up
to but excluding storming the field, you know you're going
to get their attention. Look at the plays these guys made,

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you know, last Friday night, and they were almost flawless,
at least on offense.

Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
So I like Louisville's chances. Seven's a lot of points.

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
But I do think Louisville because, as we've talked before,
when you're undefeated, that's zero in the lost column.

Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
It fairly glows, does it does?

Speaker 14 (01:02:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
Off and on? Yeah, second swig in the six pack.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Ye.

Speaker 11 (01:02:10):
By the way, I missed the UK pregame show on
Saturday morning or Saturday afternoon. Were Georgia, Penn State and
Kentucky on Leonard's Losers?

Speaker 4 (01:02:19):
By any chance? What kind of world are we living
in if that's the case. Yeah, where is Leonard's loser?

Speaker 11 (01:02:27):
For those who don't know, Back decades ago, when you
and I were working together, we before UK games, there
was like fifteen hours, just hours upon hours of pregame
stuff and Leonard football. Yeah, yes, fans in the stand
Leonard's loses.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
Leonard post Stero is his name, but he went by
Leonard post Toasties and I have heard him for years
before I realized Percy Peabody they got it into introduced him.

Speaker 4 (01:02:53):
That was Leonard. Oh, Okay, you didn't know that. I
did not know that. You never learned something new every
time about rest in peace, Leonard.

Speaker 11 (01:03:01):
As you know, one of my top favorite two or
three rock bands of all time, the Rolling Stones, who
back in nineteen eighty nine, gave us a song called
were Stuck Between a Rock and a Hard Place as
perfect a theme song for UK leading into Athens twenty
and a half point Undercats to the Bulldogs high noon
National Television ABC on Saturday. I said two weeks ago,

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during the bye week, of those open days, open weeks
to work on stuff were probably the most important of
the year, given the SEC gauntlet that was ahead at Carolina, Georgia, Texas, Tennessee,
Auburn and Florida all in a row, and also because,
as John Hale of The Herald Leader pointed out, UK
had lost its previous four now five SEC games after

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a bye week. Cats are five and ten after bye
weeks in the Stoops era. It's a tall task to
maybe even cover against Georgia. But UK would have, could have,
should have at home last year against the Dogs. I
don't think playing that close again is cutter. The key
to them playing that close again.

Speaker 4 (01:04:04):
Can't turn it over.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
Of course, that's what turned the game around for South Carolina, yep,
and took Kentucky off schedule and enabled South Carolina to say, Okay,
run the ball, fine, but you can't come back throwing
the ball, so we're gonna kill your quarterback, and they
damn near did. If they can play cleanly move the
ball between the tackles, they have a chance of shortening

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the game, grinding it out, taking Georgia out.

Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
Of the game a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
But Gary, it's so much tougher now for two reasons.
Number one, you're on the road. Number two, George's pissed
off because they lost Alabama.

Speaker 11 (01:04:41):
And they're gonna take it out. Try to anyway, that's right.
Speaking of Bamba, we'll get to them in just a second.
And our third swig here, Besides the UK game high
noon the U of L three thirty, here are five
more perfect excuses for not getting crap done around the
house on Saturday. Also at high noon, Clemson at North
Carolina versus Belichick.

Speaker 4 (01:05:01):
Can only one of these teams lose?

Speaker 11 (01:05:03):
I'm just kind of wondering, Okay, that's probably going to
be the Tigers winning this when they're fourteen point favorites
at this point.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
Then you got three thirty.

Speaker 11 (01:05:09):
The number nine Texas Longhorns at Florida Horns now are
seven point actually six and a half point favorites. It
opens at seven manning in the swamp. Is this a
make or break game already?

Speaker 4 (01:05:22):
I gotta see this.

Speaker 11 (01:05:23):
You also have a three thirty, Number sixteen Vandy at
number ten Bama. Bama is a ten and a half
point favorite. If the Tide are as vengeful as the
guy in the White House, then Bama will win by
fifty at this point, but they won't go doors, says
here in this household. Saturday night, seven o'clock, you got
number eleven Texas Tech at Houston both four and oho teams.

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Tech though is a eleven and a half point favorite.
And then the final one, number three Miami yet to
leave the state, and they won't until November. The first
Miami travels up to Tallahassee play the number eighteen Seminals.
The Cane are four and a half favorites.

Speaker 4 (01:06:01):
So well that bunch.

Speaker 11 (01:06:02):
I'll take Clemson, I'll take Texas Vandy. I'll take Vandy
to win, and Texas Tech and Florida State to upset
the Canes.

Speaker 4 (01:06:10):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
I like your pick on Clemson, although this is a
this is a week where you just don't know what
you have with Clemson, so they might cover that four team,
But I do like them. If if you help me down,
I'd say Clemson and lay the points. That's a lot
on the road. Yeah, but you've got a superior quarterback
at Clemson, though he hadn't quite shown it this year.

Speaker 4 (01:06:29):
Yeah. I like Texas all over Florida, by the way.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
Yeah, it could be make or break, not just for
Manning but for Billy Napier at Florida. True, and we
both know that Texas should be favored by a touchdown.
And yet college football fans being what they are, Gator
fans will be livid if their team loses to a
team that is.

Speaker 4 (01:06:49):
Better than they are.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
But they shouldn't be that much better by now, and
that's been the problem in Gainesville. I like Vandy to cover.
I don't know that I like Vandy to win. Wouldn't
that be a great story because it happened last year?

Speaker 14 (01:07:02):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
I think Bama's got some revenge on its mind. Bama
flying high after beating Georgia, But I just don't know.
After again looking at video watch Diego Pavia. He's this
kid's gonna get your attention. Real Texas Tech spending gobs
of money, but I think Houston's got enough to cover
the eleven.

Speaker 4 (01:07:20):
And a half. But I like Tech to win it,
and I will go against you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
I'll take the Canes against Florida State, although they're in
bounced back mode to the Seminoles.

Speaker 4 (01:07:28):
Yeah, fourth swig.

Speaker 11 (01:07:30):
As for the NFL tomorrow night, sometime after eight o'clock
whenever the worst pregame Yakfest ends on Amazon. You got
Frisco at the La Rams. Rams are six and a
half point favorites. It opened at five and a half.
So let's go to Sunday and onto a city you
and I have lifted at least a couple of pints before.
In London Town the Vikings and the Browns. The Vikings

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three and a half point favorites. That's at nine point
thirty Sunday morning. Back here in the States, the games
I'm most interested in Broncos at the Eagles. You also
have the Commanders at the Chargers game of the day,
without question. My Seahawks hosting the Tampa Bay Bucks. Hawks
are three and a half point favorites at this point.
Sunday Night's got the Patriots at the Bills, Monday Night

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Chiefs at the Jags in Kansas City, three and a
half point favorite in that one. Back to London, though,
We've got two more NFL games after this one, and
then there's gonna be one in Berlin and one in Madrid.
Do you think in our lifetime we will see an
NFL team out of London on a regular week to
week basis.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
I do.

Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
I don't know that it will be the Jaguars.

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
And that had been the conversation for a while because
Jacksonville wasn't doing well, wasn't drawing well. Hay, let's just
take a team out of a community that doesn't care
and put them in London, basically base them in London,
and then have them play a circuit of games around
the continent. And I do think we'll see that because

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that's untapped revenue for the National Football League. They got
to figure out the scheduling. But you've got computer, you've
got AI, you've got Google at your disposal, so use
it and figure it out. The players union will vote
on it, they will make money on it. But I
do think we will see that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:11):
Yes, I do.

Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
One of the games I'm really curious about Gary is
the Chiefs at the Jaguars Jacksonville showing signs of life
and the Chiefs are mortal, mere mortals. We've seen that,
and it's in Jacksonville, speaking of so you know, you've
got the humidity going for you there, So that's going
to be really interesting. Plus your Bucks in Seattle, I

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would love to see. I root for your Hawks, not
just because their playbook play Guy is a prior Trinity Shamrock,
but I like Seattle and when it was when the
Seahawks were born. But man, Tampa Bay's got something and
it really his name is Baker Mayfield, So that'll be
one of the more interesting games of the day.

Speaker 11 (01:09:49):
Seahawks have not been great at home last year. They
lost more games at home than they they did on
the road.

Speaker 4 (01:09:55):
Yeah, but new QB. I like their head coach.

Speaker 14 (01:09:58):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
I do too.

Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
Fitzwig Dick.

Speaker 11 (01:10:01):
Here we are return of playoff Baseball in the afternoon.

Speaker 4 (01:10:05):
How glate is this?

Speaker 11 (01:10:06):
Always have fond memories of these October games and broad daylight,
you know, sneaking into transistor radio with the earpiece to
hear the play by play during class, or as I
did on a field trip to Nashville back in the
October of sixty nine, so I can hear the Mets
and the Braves the first ever n LCS because I
was a big Braves fan. Then four games yesterday too
in the yearbook.

Speaker 4 (01:10:27):
Already today you.

Speaker 11 (01:10:28):
Got the Yankees and the Socks going on right now.
Then Otani and the Dodgers versus the Reds nine oh eight. Tonight,
Reds get LA's best pitcher, Yamamoto on the bump after
that gem that former Bowling Green hot rod Blake Snell
through last night seven innings, four hits, just two runs,
nine k's And as you texted me, yeah, there are
a lot of empty seats there last night. But I

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will tell you for covering many a playoff game out there,
LA is not a wild card town. They're not even
an nld S town. Give us the championship of the
series or we're going to day home. A couple of
questions for you. If the Yankees lose tonight or tomorrow
at home against the hated Red Sox, is Aaron Boone gone?
And given how being in baseball is in such a

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daily rhythm, kind of a thing. Would you rather have
six or seven days off after the last game of
the season or just have one day off and jump
right into being a wild card team.

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
Well, everything I've seen through the years has been, yeah,
give me one day off. And because teams seem to
struggle a bit after a layoff like that, you know
they've got a rhythm and they want to keep it going. Yeah,
And answer your first question, if John Cashman or Brian Cashman,
who actually grew up in Lexington because dad John was
the president at the Red Mile, if ever he were

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going to fire Aaron Boone, that would be the time
to lose to the Socks in that first round, you know.
And quite frankly, if not for Aaron Judge, they wouldn't
even be here. Now would be the time to do it,
So that wouldn't surprise me at all.

Speaker 4 (01:11:59):
Got a feeling, all right.

Speaker 11 (01:12:01):
Our sixth and final swig eight teams in the wild
card round that played yesterday and today. Four teams that
won their divisions did not play, including the team with
the best record in the majors, and they did it
with the twenty third lowest payroll out of thirty. Milwaukee
Brewers average payroll dick in in Major League Baseball this
year is one hundred and seventy million, three hundred and

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twenty four thousand, six hundred and twenty nine dollars. The
Brewers are more than fifty seven million below average. Five
of the twelve teams made the playoffs with below average
payrolls Milwaukee, Seattle, Detroit, Cincinnati, and Cleveland. Four of the
top ten payrolls failed to make the postseason. Right at
the top of that list, the Mets overspent to the

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tune of over three hundred and forty one million, more
than three times the division winning Guardians payroll and more
than double Milwaukee's Brewers not only had a winning record
against the Mets, dick, they also had a winning record
against every divisional champ, including winning all six games against
the Dodgers, and with the twenty third lowest payroll. We

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don't know what will happen after these playoff games, but
I will tell you the next time you hear an
owner or general manager whining, oh, we can't compete against
the Dodgers or the Mets in their pocketbooks, feel free
to say, shut the f up.

Speaker 4 (01:13:15):
Okay, look at Milwaukee. I love to hear the word pocketbook.

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
It's right up there with ice box, and you have
to explain it right people of a certain age. No,
you're right on. And you know, for years Dave Kindred,
the incredibly great Hall of Fame sports writer, used to say,
it's not about the payroll. And he is a baseball wonk,
and I used to say, oh, come on, you know
you can go out and buy a lineup. But the
Mets are exhibit A, aren't they?

Speaker 4 (01:13:41):
And this is a good thing.

Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
And all those five teams you named moderate media markets.
In other words, they're not going to command the bucks
that the New York market, the LA market and some
others do command. But my favorite moment from that situation,
there's a New York New Yorker cartoon, which are always great.
The guy sitting in front of the sitting in front

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of a TV with a scowl, and his wife pokes
her head in and says, I notice you're not wearing
your mess hat.

Speaker 4 (01:14:10):
That came the day after they were eliminated. Yeah, you
gotta love that.

Speaker 17 (01:14:14):
He is.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
Gary Moore is our Western Bureau chief. Will come back
with some hot reasons just a minute here on six
thirty WLAP. Welcome back, to the Big Blue and Sider.
We're chatting with our West End Bureau chief, Gary Moore,
as we do every week. Two guys in a six
pack in the rearview mirror. Now let us throw a
couple of hot reads at our QB. Mister Moore, I
sent you a story with a headline that to out
of the fact that the Browns are benching Flacco, they're

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going to play a quarterback named Gabriel, last name initials dGH,
and as I said earlier in the show, it's about
time that a that a Gabriel gets a shot. I've
been waiting patiently by the phone. Conspiracy is a strong word,
but I'm not afraid to throw it in there. But
my question to you is such a mess with the
Browns in general, specifically quarterback, with the watch deal and

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now they draft two guys within five minutes and one another.
Could he be good enough to put all this to
sleep to rest? Could Dylan Gabriel be the answer?

Speaker 11 (01:15:10):
Well, look what, Jackson Dark, did you know with the
with the the Giants, you throw caution to the wind
and say, okay, I think they're ready, and well, you
can't have Flacco in there, And I think I think
Joe maybe at at the end of it all. Yeah,
I mean it was a tough tough call at Detroit,
throwing two interceptions, getting sacked three times, not even throwing
for two hundred yards, and so I don't blame them

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for wanting to do that. And you know your your boy.
Gabriel was pretty much battle tested against UH when he
was with the Oregon last year, like Bo Nicks was
that season too, some pretty tough competition. We'll see what
happens and if he doesn't, if he doesn't cut it,
you know who's behind him.

Speaker 4 (01:15:49):
Oh yeah, Dylan.

Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
Gabriel came from the University of Oregon or OU if
you will, And I have tons of cousins in Portland.
They're ducks fans. Open up the Portland phone book if
there is such a thing, all kinds of Gabriels, And.

Speaker 4 (01:16:01):
Yeah, he was one of them. No relation.

Speaker 3 (01:16:03):
By the way, our second hot reads. We're sticking in
the NFL. The Jets are no good once again. Although
you know I love their helmets, that metallic green.

Speaker 4 (01:16:12):
I just love that well. I like the old logo.

Speaker 11 (01:16:14):
I like the old helmets, the white ones, the Joe
Namath era.

Speaker 4 (01:16:17):
Do you I like them too on throwback Day, But
I just really like the metallic colors.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:16:23):
But anyhow, Sauce Gardner, who's a terrific defensive back, has
drawn some flags this year. He believes that the refs
are not just picking on him, but on the Jets
as a team, but on the Jets as a team
because they're losing. Of course, that's it has to be it,
and it's a chicken egg thing. Are they losing because
they're making bad plays? Or are they making bad plays

(01:16:45):
or being flagged because they're losing. As a guy who
officiated baseball for the longest time, I can tell you
teams that aren't any good they make more mistakes. But
I also have heard tale of officials telling coaches and players.

Speaker 4 (01:17:00):
You know, who are you to talk? You're no good
that kind of stuff. So, uh, I don't know what
to make of this.

Speaker 11 (01:17:05):
What was it somebody said years ago Jets just in
the season, look for that sign about about I'm surprised
hasn't really popped up it. Maybe this weekend it will
be spell out Jets.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
You know.

Speaker 11 (01:17:18):
When when Sauce was being talked about this, uh, he
said he's personally frustrated now I've been impersonally frustrated before,
but he's definitely personally frustrated.

Speaker 4 (01:17:27):
He said this.

Speaker 11 (01:17:28):
He says, I don't know if this is wrong to say.
Now that should cue any reporter's ears to make sure
your tape is rolling and you're in you got ink
in the pin. Anytime an athlete says I don't know
if this is wrong to say, but I think I
get call from more stuff just based of us, based
off of.

Speaker 4 (01:17:45):
Us not winning.

Speaker 11 (01:17:46):
That's what he ended up saying, Yeah, it's always a
gem after I don't know if I don't know if
this is the right thing to say or not, Dick,
but uh, keep the tape rolling.

Speaker 4 (01:17:54):
Chicken and egg thing. It really is.

Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
And I'm glad the sauce Gardner is taking a lot
of pride in this play because here's a guy who
signed a four year extension worth one hundred and twenty
million dollars. Now that's an NFL contract, so we don't
know what is actually worth, what is guaranteed or not.
But he is fiercely competitive and I can understand him
being frustrated because the Jets are zero four. You know,

(01:18:20):
they've made coaching changes, personnel changes, quarterback changes and.

Speaker 4 (01:18:24):
It just ain't working. So thankfully I'm not a Jets fan.

Speaker 11 (01:18:28):
Well, this is the season to pop off against officiating.
I mean, look what mss Collier said about the w NBA.

Speaker 4 (01:18:33):
Oh yeah yeah, but she may have a case.

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
That's a that's a topic yet for another day and
we will talk at some point on another day with Gary.
But if you can't get enough of him, go to
Twitter or x it's sense a thing as possible and
you'll find him.

Speaker 4 (01:18:49):
At at nine to five to five Gary, the same
joint you're at.

Speaker 3 (01:18:53):
I'm at Big Bloom Insider one. Good luck to your
toppers this weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:18:57):
Thank you, they'll need it. Have a good weekend and
now to do for now.

Speaker 3 (01:19:00):
Thanks to my guests, Gary, to the coach Seawan Woods
for joining us, and reminder Kentucky Georgia football Cats versus
Dogs from down in Athens on Saturday.

Speaker 4 (01:19:10):
It's a new kickoff.

Speaker 3 (01:19:11):
Kegs and Eggs will begin our pregame coverage at ten
am a Christy Logan and Ricky that's it.

Speaker 4 (01:19:17):
Good night from the garage and Lexington.

Speaker 10 (01:19:19):
I'd like to ask a few questions about this breakfast cereal.
I yeah, yeah, A box of tricks that's right. I've
been led to understand the tricks are exclusively for children.
Is that correct?

Speaker 14 (01:19:33):
Well, I mean they say tricks are for kids.

Speaker 10 (01:19:35):
In the commercials, and there's that enforced by law.

Speaker 4 (01:19:42):
Not to my knowledge, no.

Speaker 20 (01:20:00):
Tact, tact can anything sat tact that anything can toast

(01:21:11):
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