2025-10-22 BBI

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh oo, guess what day it is?

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Guess what day it is? H anybody, It's hump Day.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Yeah, it's hump Day.

Speaker 4 (00:13):
Dick Gabriel with you on a Wednesday, one day closer
to both college basketball and football here in Lexington. Of course,
the basketball Wildcats was purdued in an exhibition game on Friday.
Other look, we know it's much more right than an
exhibition game. I mean, it doesn't count in the standings,
but a it'll give Kentucky fans a great look at

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this team against somebody not wearing blue and white. And
more importantly, it gives Mark popen a staff a chance
to see this team against somebody other than other players
wearing blue and white.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
So that's big coming up on Friday. But they have to.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
Adjust to not having Jalen Low at least for the
time being, and that might be the most important thing
of all. So that's coming up Friday, a game you
will hear right here on six point thirty WLP tip
off at six o'clock down at the Ruckus Arena. Then,
of course on Saturday night it's Kentucky Tennessee, another tea
team coming in different strain of orange, coming in the

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nastier shade of orange coming in and we'll see how
this team bounces back after that disappointing loss to Texas.
They got to be more confident, but it's an entirely
different way of playing football. When you look at out
Tennessee schemes versus Texas, Texas is more of the pro style.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
They were able to get pressure on Arch Manning.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
Wildcats have not had that kind of success through the
years against Josh Hipel's Tennessee teams, and Tennessee has a
really good defense, so does Texas. And of course the
Wildcats can only get in the end zone once and
scored only thirteen points, but did move the football amazingly
well against Texas. So yeah, we're going to see that

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coming up on Saturday. By the way, Seth McGowan will play.
He was in practice yesterday. This is a guy and
I've been doing this for a long time. You know
that you watched a lot of football, no doubt. I
have never seen a kid come back from a cat
scan and play. We've seen kids leave the field, go
in get treatment corte unquote, usually an injection of some

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sort painkiller, and come back or come back from a
spring whatever. They took this kid to the hospital and
McGowan came out after practice and talked to us about it.
Is one of the reporters that tell us about your
your medical odyssey.

Speaker 5 (02:33):
Never really wanted to leave the game, and you know,
I was standing pretty firm on there. So you know,
the the moment that you know, I got the slightest
confirmation that I was okay, I was like, all right,
we need to go. You know, he's sitting there trying
to you know, pull up the game on the spoone.
I'm like, man like getting his cart and drive. So

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you know, that's exactly what we did. And you know,
I'm you know, super grateful that I was able to
come back and you know, trying to help put us
in a good position.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
What does that look like?

Speaker 6 (03:05):
You're just like in a golf cart with an escort
to get over to the hospital and get back here.

Speaker 5 (03:08):
You know, we were passing, we were passing the fans
and you know, all the tailgaters and they had all
their TVs up, and you know they were just kind
of looking over like I'm pretty sure he was just
on the screen. I was like, yes, like what you're doing,
you know, but you know, leaving the hospital heading back
to the stadium, you know they're cheered me on, and

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so you know that's why I was super fired up
to go out there and try to help us win.

Speaker 7 (03:34):
So you know what I'm saying, shout out, should be.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
In when they take you in there, you gotta go
through the yard, around each hallway. I've been in there
all the way to the catch gain room.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
I mean, was that scary for you? Like you wonder
what the heck's going on?

Speaker 7 (03:46):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (03:47):
No, I mean I was just I was just thinking
about the game. Dog, Like you know, I knew all
I knew was I was somewhere I didn't want to be.
And you know I knew I was somewhere where I
couldn't help the team. And you know that was that
was killing.

Speaker 7 (04:03):
Me, you know.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
And and you know I and Yank Yank Diaby's on
my arm and everything like you did. Yeah, I did,
Yanke diabes out my arm because you know, there was
there was there was nowhere else I needed to be
at that moment at it end with my guys, you
know what I'm saying, and ready to get that thing done.
So you know, it was it was a it was

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eventful for sure, but yeah, and you know it was
it was it had to be done.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
That was me asking about going into the hospital because
of a couple of weeks ago. More than that, I
had a kidney stone and went in for treatment and
thankfully passed it while I was waiting to see the doctor.
Not that they had to wait that long, It just
that's just the way it works sometimes. But to be safe,
they did a catch skin on me and I was,
you know, in a room just off the R crowded

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people in the hallways. Uh like they always are just
really crowded over in the UK E R because it
serves half the state to Kentucky. Anyhow, they say, you know,
time to go get a cat scan. So we started
a walk and walk and it just seemed like forever
before we got to the part of the facility where they.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Do the cat scan.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
So imagine you're seth McGown, still in your pads. They
take you in a golf cart. You know, there was
an escort all the way over there to the er
and now you start walking and you finally get in
there and to give you a cat scan, check you
out and you're clean, and you come back and not
only go back to your teammates on the sideline, but
you play the game the rest of the game, or

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at least part of the game.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
So that was pretty incredible.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
But I was appreciative of the fact that he kind
of took it all in strive. But yeah, he said
he was adamant about getting back to the game.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Speaking of getting back to the game, the NBA.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
Began last night, and I know most of you shrugged
that off, but some of you are NBA fans out there,
and of course UK proudly reported as well it should
that UK has twenty seven players on NBA opening day rosters.
That leads the nation for the fourteenth consecutive season. If
you're a cynical a person, you're saying, yeah, thanks a lot,
col because John Caliperi put most of these guys in

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the league. Some believe at the expense of going for
championships at Kentucky. I don't believe that, but I do
believe that with that kind of talent now in the NBA.
Clearly underscores the fact that Caliperrri missed golden opportunities to
win more than one title. And again, it wasn't all
his fault some of it was. But I will die

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on this hill. If they just hit free throws the
way they're supposed to hit free throws, Cali Perry would
have at least two, maybe three more titles to his credit.
Now he bungled a couple of those opportunities, one at
Memphis and at least one with that twenty fifteen team
if you ask me.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
But and I know a lot of you agree on
that one.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
But.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
It does speak well of Kentucky.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
Puts Kentucky front and center, and not just because of
Reed Shepherd. His Houston Rockets team lost a double overtime
game last night to the defending champion Oklahoma City thunder.
Replayed twenty eight minutes at nine points, had three three pointers,
no two three pointers, missed a free throw, believe it

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or not. But yeah, that was an interesting I watched
part of that game.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
But he got.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
Twenty eight minutes at point guard two guard Amen Thompson,
who is gonna get most of the minutes at the point,
got nearly thirty nine minutes. But yeah, it was a
classic game and a good start for NBC with Kevin
Durant getting twenty three points and the defending champs showing

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off their banner, and NBC got a chance to show
off its technical prowess in producing an opening for this event,
and it was classic. They did a great job poking
fun at themselves. They had players sit down and they
showed the process, you know, the marker take one and
you hear a voice off screen asking about what they

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remember about the NBA on NBC. And it started off
with Shay Gilgris Alexander.

Speaker 8 (08:13):
When I say the NBA on NBC, what memories come
to mind?

Speaker 1 (08:17):
I have no none.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Zerah nineteen nineties.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Oh, I need a memory from then. I have no idea.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
I wasn't old enough, I wasn't alive.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Man joking right, Michael Jordans.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
And then in steps Michael Jordan and he sits down
and talks about his memories back when the NBA was
on NBC in the nineties.

Speaker 9 (08:46):
Here that, I believe, you got a picture painter of authenticity,
just genuine love for the game.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
And at one point, here comes John Tesh's Round Ball Rock.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
And I gotta be honest with you, I really hate
that song anymore. I've just heard it too much.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
And I was at more than one basketball event, the
final four and twenty twelve and some of the SEC
championships and they run it over the loudspeakers and it
never ends. It plays over, and it was like torture,
and I just could not I began to hate it
and could not hate it enough. Kind of ruined it
for me because it used to trigger good memories of

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basketball and now please turn it off.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Speaking of turn it off, Tom.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
Izzo, Michigan State head coach, is fed up with the
way things are going in college basketball right now, but
player movement, and he talks about that quite frankly at
the bottom of the hour. Kentucky Football Hour number two
Sean Woods and Gary Moore.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Our Wednesday lineup.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
Here on six thirty WLAP Welcome back to the Big
Blue and Sider Coming up, We're going to hear from
some of the football Wildcats and pointed comments yesterday, and
they were surprisingly upbeat given the disappointing nature of that
loss to Texas over the weekend. But though right now
we're going to talk a little more basketball college basketball
because well, for one thing, the Wildcats have Purdue coming

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up on Friday at his game week for the basketball Cats,
not just the football Wildcats, but.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
One of the stories.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
And this is local, but it is affecting all of
the NCAA because eyebrows, I'm sure shot up when the
ward got out that a guard from the G League
has committed to Louisville, and Tom Izzo, the venerable coach
NCAA championship winner at Michigan State, had comments about it.
And mind you, this is not a swipe at Louisville,

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either by.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Me or by him.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
But when he heard the London Johnson, who has been
in the G League for two or three years, is
now going to play Louisville, that of course set him off.
I'm sure it set off coaches all over the country.
Kids twenty one years old, not a kid anymore, but
played the last three.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Years in the G League. It says he will arrive
in Louisville mid season, we'll sit out.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
The rest of this year, play for the Cards next year,
and we'll have two years of eligibility. I don't even
know that I remember this kid's name, with all due respect,
because I'm not on the recruiting boards all day, every day.
But he graduated high school in the class of twenty
twenty two. Four star prospect decided he was too good

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for college, signed a two year deal with the NBA's
G League Ignite.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
And look, we all knew this was coming, right.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
When the rules kept changing and you know the portal
and I have this and that. But we knew there
were kids who were going to do this, who were
going to bypass college. Shaydon Sharp did it and went
on to the NBA. Actually, although technically Sharp did come
to college anyhow, London Johnson will be a Louisville Cardinal

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apparently next season after three years in the G League,
and reporters who cover Michigan State up in East Lansing
got an earful.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
From Tom Izzo.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
And again this was not directed specifically at U of L,
and in fact, it wasn't even directed at the player.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Listen to what Izzo has to say.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
I'm going to get myself in trouble. But I I
listened to people talk of how kids changed. Kids aren't
the problem, We're the problem. This was sprung on us
again yesterday, where a guy can be in the G

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League for two or three years and then all of
a sudden he's eligible. Most of my people knew nothing
about it. I don't think our commissioner I mean, I
am not real excited about the NCAA or whoever's making
these decisions without talking to us, just letting it go
because they're afraid they're gonna get sued. So you're right.
I said that this really bothers your coach if you're

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a Michigan State fans. But if you want a silver
lining in a cloud, I am gonna call Magic tonight.
I'm gonna call Jared Jackson, Miles, Gary Max. You know,
this just goes to show you how ridiculous people that

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are in power make decisions. I mean, you know, and
I'm gonna get killed because someone's gonna say, well, if
they go pro it doesn't work out, shouldn't they be
able to come back?

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Well?

Speaker 2 (13:35):
What about the freshmen you recruited there? That's somebody's son
and he thinks he's got himself a good place, and
then all of a sudden, shazam, they pull out of
their hat and bring a twenty one or twenty two
year old in. To me, it's ridiculous. To me, it's embarrassing,
and I love my job. I don't respect my profession

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and I don't respect who's ever doing that, whoever made
those decisions, because they're afraid that a lawyer's going to
sue them. Sooner or later, you're gonna fight the fight.
And you know, somebody's if we would have been aware
of it, if somebody would have talked to us, maybe
it's me. Maybe I'm the dummy, but I'll never agree
to that stuff. I think we're really hurting the freshmen

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in high school, I mean, the seniors in high school,
giving them a chance, and we're just gonna what's the
age lemon though? Is it thirty? You know, if you
have three beards and two mustaches, are you illegally you're
not allowed to play? I mean, what is it going
to be? Maybe we should do a better job of
helping kids make decisions. Said decisions they make and then

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oh boy, I made a bad decision, so I'll go back.
But the unintended consequences are the kids that are there.
We'll now get screwed and not have an opportunity, and
then they'll be transferring, and then we'll have this circle.
So I cannot I do not know everything about it.
I cannot believe that this was sprung on us yesterday,

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and if it was done earlier and I didn't know
about it shame on me. But my compliance officer didn't
know there are people in this league didn't know. NCAA's
got to regroup. They got to regroup. That's my opinion
only my opinions. Don't be mad at anybody else to
be mad at us, But I'm not gonna be mad
at the players. I'm gonna be mad at the adults

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in the room. And so don't blame the players anymore.
Blame the adults that make the decisions that allow some
of these ridiculous things to happen, and then the unintended
consequences hurt kids that are trying to do it the
right way with a process, not jumping around. And that's

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my two cents. So put that wherever you want it.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
It's not the kid, it's the system. It's the people
who put the system in place. And he also nailed
it when he said people are afraid of being sued
because the NCAA, as Tom Leach points out, must have
the worst lawyers in the country because they keep losing.
And to me, I don't understand, of course, the legalities.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
I skipped law.

Speaker 4 (16:22):
School, not that I had a chance to go, but
I'm wondering why documents that schools and players and coaches
must sign in order to be a part of this
group called the NCAA. And you could do away with
the NCAA and call it something else. You're gonna have
the exact same problems. Put a different acronym on it,

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put different initials on it, you'll have the exact same problems.
You're gonna have structure, you're gonna have committees, You're gonna
have people in charge. You're gonna people make mistakes. They've
had the wrong people in charge. This all goes back
to the Ed Obandon case. That was the guy who
initially raised the issue the loudest about not getting anything

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for video games that bore his image and Liketus, and
he fought that thing all the way through to the
top legally and won. And the NCAA hasn't won anything
since they dug in and decided no, you know, no
matter what, these kids have to remain quote unquote amateurs.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
And it is.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
Almost, I won't say almost, it is all but destroyed
college athletics. At least it definitely destroyed it the way
we knew about it. And as I said, the moment
that turned around, I said, and this is many years ago,
and especially when the NIL arrived.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
In a transfer portal. This is the end of college
sports as we know it.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
And I'm sure a lot of other people came to
that conclusion, but so many people shrugged it off, and
now they're complaining and people who including people, This is
what gets me, ironically. Enough media people, I mean social
media people, I mean mainstream media people who were banging
a drum, thumping the tubs, screaming and yelling that the

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kids aren't being treated fairly. Now they're complaining about all
the movement and all the NIL stuff.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
What did you think was going to happen? So, getting
back to ISO, I think this might have been a
foregone conclusion. It had to happen at some point.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
I wonder when is the next time or the first
time someone's going to wash out of the NBA and
want to go back to college.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
It's going to happen.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
So much respect for Tom Izzo, who really wanted the
Kentucky job two or three coaching changes ago. I don't
remember who was about to be hired, might have been Caliperi,
but I know that Izzo was extremely interested. But for
whatever reason, it didn't work out. All right, up next,
we'll talk more Kentucky football here on six point thirty

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WAP Welcome back to the Big Blue and Cider coming
up in now. Number two Gary Moore, our West End
Bureau chief and unforgettable guard Sean Woods. We'll talk baseball, football,
basketball with them. But Kentucky football is the key right
now because the Wildcatch take on Tennessee Saturday night, Commonwealth Stadium,
seven forty five. More orange, different shade. It's the shade

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that the most Kentucky fans do not care for. They
don't care for what's been happening with the volunteers of
late as well. It's going to be a big opportunity
for Cutter Bowley, who has looked really good, hasn't he
the last couple of games, which quite frankly have been
the toughest games on the Kentucky schedule so far at
Georgia and here at home against Texas, and he has

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looked like an SEC quarterback. And for all the criticism
that you and I have heaped on bush Hamdan for
play calling, you've got to give him credit for helping
to develop this guy into someone who gives Kentucky a
chance to win and The majority of the questions put
through bush ham Dan this week at practice were about

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cutter Bowlie and his development. I thought i'd share a
lot of those with you right now.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
You know.

Speaker 7 (20:03):
And again, I think anytime you take the relationship of
a coordinator and a quarterback every week, you just get
a better feel for one another. He's done a really
nice job of everything we've talked about of getting the
ball out on time.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Really.

Speaker 7 (20:19):
I mean, again, you look at the completion percentage thing,
that's something we're tracking, and for him to go out
there and be close to eighty percent against that defense
is pretty impressive. So he's got the right stuff. He's
got the right makeup. Aside from just how he's playing,
I think there's a toughness standpoint and the ability to
just stay the course that those are two things, like

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we've said, you can't teach and and he's got those things.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Did you know he had that allusion?

Speaker 6 (20:44):
I mean, obviously he can make plays with his legs,
but those places where he looked like he.

Speaker 7 (20:47):
Was being sacked and all of a sudden, who did
you know he had that? In Yeah, I've always thought
he has plus athleticism, you know, he just has always
surprised me in that way. I think for him now
and he knows us to take the next step, like
we all know, is you got to choose the right spots,
you know. And so just looking back at that game,
where there's a sack on third and six in field

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goal range or the interception on the right side, then
there's the two three big plays, you know, and so
playing that position, it's there's always going to be the
criticism when it doesn't work out, and when it does
the praise. And so for him to just pick his
spots continue to develop that that's obviously a huge, huge
key for him.

Speaker 10 (21:27):
Do you find that you and Cutter continue to learn
more about each other and how to work together better.

Speaker 7 (21:33):
Absolutely, I mean I think again we have shifted in
the last two three weeks completely in a lot of
ways for us offensively and trying to put the best
playing together for us to have success. So it's schematically
we've changed mindset wise, and coaching him, we have changed
a ton and you know, we're just talking this morning,

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him and I and again I think it's you know,
he's showing a ton of emotion and that's how much
he care, and that's what you know, this town knows
there's nobody who wants it more than him. But he's
also got to realize how he's playing right now is
due to the work he's put in in the last
couple of weeks, and there's a lot to be proud of.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
I think it was.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
Before his first start, somebody asked you what you wanted
to see, and he said, let it rip.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Yeah, how is that aged would have be seen in
that regard?

Speaker 7 (22:19):
Yeah, I mean it's easy to say that, you know,
and then all of a sudden a guy lets it
rip and turns the ball over five times, and it's
the opposite. I just again, it's the toughness thing, right.
Even when he makes his first start, he goes to
Georgia and he takes hits. It's just like mentally, he's
not too up and down, like he knows what he's

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got to do. He knows what he's got to do
to get better. I don't think he's listening to the
outside noise too much one way or another, whether it's
good or bad. And he's come out here and been
extremely deliberate about his work.

Speaker 6 (22:51):
The game plan you all have kind of developed over
last year because I could work the same way. I
guess it's Tennessee defense that might feel more aggressive or
that you have to change things that world.

Speaker 7 (23:00):
Yeah, you always are trying to make some tweaks here
and there, but I think in general, you know, through football,
you know, you got to get the ball out of
the quarterback's hands. That's been something we have made a
huge emphasis on, you know, and and getting them early
completions and being more balanced. You know, it always comes
with the explosive thing. How are we going to create

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more explosives? As you guys know, when you take those shots,
a lot of times you got to hold up longer
and then those can be riskier calls, and so we
got to know the right time to take those shots.
But there's a lot of good things I think he's
doing that's putting our offense in a good position.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
He said, you've changed schematically that a reference to you
getting it act quicker or or is there.

Speaker 7 (23:39):
More to it than that? Yeah, absolutely, I mean, I think,
you know, as we look at it, just trying to
eliminate the negative plays and and even just the mindset
of getting him early completions, getting the ball to Kendrick
Law as early and as quick as we can.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
You know.

Speaker 7 (23:56):
It's it's again trying to formulate giving yourself the best
chance to win football games. We were obviously close last
week against a good football team and couldn't finish.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
So what do you need to see from the all
line more of from the old line.

Speaker 7 (24:10):
It's tricky. I mean, I think these are physical defenses
we played, you know, so I've challenged those guys. I mean,
I think are Our longest run was the quarterback run,
you know, and that's where it just goes back to, like,
you know, I think the longest rush we had was
an eleven yard gain, and so and it's it's uphill sledding.
I mean, it's tough. There ain't no doubt about it.
That's a good defensive line we saw last week. This

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will be as good a decent defensive line that we've
seen all year. And so they just got to continue
to bring that physicality, work to own the line of
scrimmage because it's a much different feeling when that does happen.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
People think about Tennessee, they think about that up temple offense,
but their defense is flying below the radarc.

Speaker 7 (24:49):
It is pretty good. I think statistically, you know what's
interesting about them is, uh, they defend more plays than
most people, but if they did not, you know, looking
at a defense even right now, who is leading the
conference in negative plays and sacks and doing a great
job getting turnovers, they're extremely disruptive and so again we

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think from a personnel standpoint, this will be as good
a defense as.

Speaker 9 (25:14):
We'll see plably, Mengo, I think when you were getting
ready for the season in July, you anticipated Hunter dropping
back forty times in a game. How is that really
change what you had to do? But how do you
think he's handled that additional responsibility.

Speaker 7 (25:29):
I think he's a gunslinger, So for him, I think
he wants to throw a sixty times a game. For me, yeah,
I mean that is partly, you know, the change we've
made in the last two to three weeks from a
standpoint of looking at some of those throws as an
extension of our run game and how can we gain
yardage by getting the ball on the perimeter fast and

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being physical on the perimeter. So I think he's done
a nice job. Knock on wood. We just got to
keep building again. The progress, you know, from where he
was three weeks ago to the Georgia start to where
he's at now. There's a testament to the work he's
put in. Mike Hartline has done a great job with him.
Everything we've you know, we've been working towards uh. He's

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doing a good job.

Speaker 10 (26:10):
Coach up more pickyback on that. This program's been crying
out for a homegrown quarterback. I've done a lot of
transferporter quarterbacks recently. How nice Sea Cutter slowly but surely
blocks him into that SEC skater I'll play colors.

Speaker 7 (26:23):
I think it's a big time I think even more
so man, just from the standpoint of the transfer portal,
like you know, for Kentucky to have a guy, you know,
if he can continue to play the way he plays
just going into an off season similar you know, trying
to create some type of continuity is critical because the
reality is what I think we're all facing is, you know,

(26:45):
a bunch of new players and new quarterbacks and takes
a while to kind of figure it all out and
get on the same page. And so I think that's
a huge plus.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Well Mark this year and you're second year in the SEC.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
Now, what have been like for you to adjust or
have you had to adjust the way you do your job?

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Because you've grew up against bigger, stronger, faster happenings.

Speaker 7 (27:07):
Yeah, you certainly have to adjust. I think, you know,
we've had to earn everything, you know, and that's the
part of this conference. I think, you know, whatever it
was last game twenty six first downs and just kind
of gradually moving it. So there's an adjustment there again,

(27:28):
certainly in the thought process of getting the ball out
as quick as you can, we've had to adjust. We
spent a lot of time working on the third down
plane last week, and again it's not just studying us,
but it's studying conference wide on you know, how fast
those edges are and all that. So certainly make your adjustments. Again,
I think what we've done in the last couple of weeks,
there's certainly been a ton of progress. But we understand

(27:51):
as well, We understand the criticism. We know we have
to execute, we know we have to finish drives, and
that's obviously the disappointing thing from a week ago. What
do you mean everything, Well, I just think, uh, you know,
there there there's times, you know, in certain situations where
you know, Ashton Genty's getting a handoff and next thing
you know, there's a fifty two yard game and next

(28:11):
thing you know, you know, you got twenty one points
on the board. And uh, and so there's some of
that adjusting. It just is what it is. We have
to earn every drive. And I think, uh that that's
where this league is kind of at right now. You
see it with our fourteen play drive sixteen play drives,
and unfortunately on those kind of drives, like all it
takes is is one breakdown, one bad play call, one issue,

(28:35):
and next thing you know, you're settling for points. And
I think about in a lot of situations, I think
about being aggressive in that game on a third and
six and we're in field goal range and we take
a sack and now we don't get points. Uh it's uh,
you know, you gotta you gotta pull at it at
the right time here. You have to, uh, you gotta
be smart. You gotta take points when you can take points,

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because when we're playing our best, you know, these games
are come down to one score games.

Speaker 4 (29:02):
And if you're an NFL fan, you know he mentioned
Ashton Janty, who was one of the leading running backs
in the NFL. This is a guy who when Hamden
was at Boise State last before he came to Kentucky.
In twenty twenty three, Janty played for Boise State, was
a first team All American then the following year, and
of course Hamdn and come to Kentucky. By then he

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went on to win the Maxwell Award, the Doak Walker Award,
the Earl Campbell Award, was a unanimous All American, was
the best running back in the country, a Mountain West
Male Athlete of the Year. So this is a guy
quality back. But good coaches have good players and vice versa.
So ham Den has helped develop good players, and good

(29:45):
players have helped Bush Hamdan get to where he is.
So say what you will about play calling, and you're
always open for debate and criticism when you're a play
caller offensive defense. But he is working well with Cutter
Bowlie and we see.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
The results every week.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
And it's so vital that they've gone to this, as
he said, new scheme. Everybody likes to talk about adjustments.
They're not making any adjustments at halftime or whatever. Well,
you don't make adjustments for the most part.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
At halftime.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
You remind each other of what you're supposed to be doing.
You can make your adjustments during practice during the week,
and that's what Kentucky has done going into that Georgia game.
Quicker passes, quicker releases, quicker decisions, and it's working. Hasn't
worked the way they want it to in terms of
getting the ball into the end zone more often, but

(30:38):
it's giving them a better opportunity to compete, and they're
going to have to do that, of course, take another
step forward against Tennessee coming up Saturday night. We'll talk
more Kentucky football on the other side of the break
here on six thirty WLAP Welcome back coming up at
the top of the Horashaan Woods, the Unforgettable Guard, and
also an hour number two. Gary Moore, our West End

(31:00):
bureau chief. I'm going to get back to Kentucky football
in just a minute, but I wanted to share a
comment with you that I found on the interweb.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
And this is Eric Bakatt.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
She is the baseball coach at Clemson and you might
recall this if you're a Kentucky baseball fan. The last
game Kentucky won last year was against Clemson in the
nca Tournament. Wildcats beat the Tigers sixteen to four in
the tournament down at Clemson.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Clemson was the host in the Clemson Regional.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
So and then the Cats lost to West Virginia, the
team that beat Kentucky four to three in the regional opener.
And then the Cats lost thirteen to twelve to West Virginia,
missed out on a chance at the Super. But Clemson
was supposed to win the regional. When you host, you're
supposed to win it. But Kentucky jumped up and beat
the Tiger sixteen to four. Luke Lawrence had a couple

(31:53):
of doubles, Carson Hansen had three base hits. Ryan Schwartz,
who's at a big fall this year, drove in four,
and more than anything, Clemson seven errors. Still, eleven of
the sixteen runs were earned anyway. Eric Backache is the
head coach, and he was recruiting a couple of guys,
he said, who were in the portal and named their

(32:16):
respective prices, their nil prices.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
And he turned them down.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
Why because he would have had to pay those guys
more than anybody on his roster is being paid now.
And he said that just did not set too well
with him. And he told them thanks, but no thanks,
and sent them on their merry way.

Speaker 11 (32:38):
This may be right, wrong or indifferent, But I just
refuse to give a new player more money who hasn't
poured one ounce of blood sweater tears into the program,
hasn't played one pitch of Clemson baseball, and is demanding
more than anyone else on the team. We'll say audios
to that dude every time. We're just not going to
do that because the culture in the locker room and

(32:59):
having those the current players know and believe and trust
that we're going to take care of them first, and
we'll do what we have to do to get good players.

Speaker 12 (33:06):
In here too.

Speaker 11 (33:07):
But we're not meeting the demands to win a bit
more like other teams are doing.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
We're just not going to do it well. He said,
Is it right, wrong or indifferent?

Speaker 4 (33:15):
I think if you're a Clemson fan right now, you
think it's the right thing to do. But at the
end of the year, if they're hurting for pitching, I'll
guarantee it, they're going to be Tiger fans and say.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Oh, they should have paid those guys whatever they wanted.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
But he was looking at a bigger picture and for
that I commend him. And you know, coaches are dealing
with that all over America and probably every sport, and
it's all relative. You know, You've got some coaches who
have minuscule nil budgets, but still.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
They have to divvy it up.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
And you've got coaches who are involved in that twenty
point five million dollars that all these schools are getting
and they have to divide that up, you know, nil.
I guess it's you know, get what you can, right,
but there are dollars that the school rules.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Can can dole out.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
And this guy decided that ain't right and what's fair
is fair, and I tipped my cap to him.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
So all right, back to football.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
Josh Brown is a guy who was at Arkansas last year,
played at Florida as well, came through the portal, has
played fairly well from the Wildcats, and he talked with
us about the progress that we've seen in the offense
and in cutter Bowley. What did it mean to you
guys to get off to that good start your first drive.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
I know it didn't result in any points, but you
kind of set a tone. What did that mean for
you guys big picture?

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (34:33):
I mean, ultimately, like you said, we we didn't come
away with any points, and so that's disappointing. I mean,
I appreciate coach stoops putting it in our hands fourth
and short. He expects the offensive line to go get
the first down, and that's a phot of confidence from
the head.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Coach, and ultimately we let him down.

Speaker 6 (34:46):
But you're right, we established physicality early in the game
and we had to lean on it throughout. But again,
like you said, we didn't come away with any points,
and so ultimately it wasn't it wasn't what we needed.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
How is the line coming together in the last couple
of games with the quick strikes from Cutter and things
like that.

Speaker 6 (35:02):
Yeah, I think given the way are just a season's
gone and how it's been structured, we haven't really been
able to get into a rhythm. And so you've seen
that we went three games off, two games off, and
then last week, and so now we're we're gonna finally
be able to get into the rhythm with these next
six games straight and just uh, like you said, we're
coming together. The offensive line before this season hadn't played

(35:24):
a snap together except for Farm and jag and and
I think the cohesiveness across the board is what we're
gonna need to ultimately when we have drives like that
when you when you talk about top D lines in
the SEC, Tennessee is always gonna be in the conversation.
They play fast, physical, they're they're gonna jet up field
all the time, and you just gotta be ready for
contact your first step. And so really you got to

(35:45):
have a quicker foot speed and quicker hand striking across
the board. And that's that's what Tennessee is known for.
And we're we're doing our best to prepare for that
and hopefully we can, uh, we can see what we
do get done. On Saturday, a.

Speaker 7 (35:59):
Couple of impressive runs.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
I mean, there was one. I still don't know exactly
how he got out of there.

Speaker 9 (36:04):
So what does it do for you guys up front
when you see him make plays like that with his legs?

Speaker 6 (36:09):
Yeah, no, it's I mean, it's amazing. He's a he's
a talented athlete, he's he's a gifted person. And just
to be able to see him become more confident in
the pocket and as our our quarterback, as our leader,
for an old guy, to see a young guy do that,
it's it's nice, you know, It's kind of it's like,
I'm like the grandpa of the offense. I'm twenty four
and cutters, shoot, what is is he even twenty?

Speaker 1 (36:32):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (36:33):
Well, it's just seeing him progress from when I got
here in January to now. It's just it's.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
Awesome to see what have you seen?

Speaker 6 (36:40):
I've seen the same things y'all. Do I mean, like
you said, he'd Hoodini out there escaping out and and
getting first downs and.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
What do you see that we don't see?

Speaker 7 (36:47):
Ah?

Speaker 1 (36:49):
You know, sure?

Speaker 6 (36:50):
Yeah, No, I mean he's a great guy. He just
he's always gonna make me laugh, and it's it's just, uh,
it's good to see him every day. I mean, there's
not much else to say except when there was.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
A game I want to say South Carolina where he
kind of barked at some people and weren't in place
at the right time.

Speaker 7 (37:08):
Yeah, that was I would think a big step.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
For him, wasn't it.

Speaker 6 (37:11):
Yeah? No, I think especially during this past Texas game,
he's definitely sort of embraced the role as the leaders
of the offense, and just with him being so young,
it's it took a couple of games for him to
get into that that mindset. He'd, like I said, he's
a great kid. He didn't want to step in on
anybody's toes. But at the end of the day, he's
the quarterback. He runs this thing, and so he knows

(37:34):
that the offensive line supports him and that whatever decision
he makes, we're gonna we're gonna run with.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
And of course what he's talking about there, you know,
is the politics, if you will, the pecking order, the
protocol of the huddle. This guy has played in more
college football games by far the Cutter Buwley is even seen.
And yet Cutter Buwley's in charge in the huddle. Cutter
Bully is in charge. He's a red shirt freshman, but

(38:02):
what he says goes. All the other players know this,
but they've got to feel it. And it's pretty apparent
to me that Josh Braun and you probably got that
from this interview, he feels it. And he is impressed
by Cutter Bowley, what he has seen, what he has heard,
the way bowleye is handling himself, and he's gonna have

(38:22):
to see more of the same, you know, in addition
to what he saw against Texas if they have a
shot at beating Tennessee. And Braun last year playing for
Arkansas got to win over the volunteers, So maybe he
can make it too straight in his personal college football resume,
if you will. Obviously, it'll take a lot more than

(38:43):
just the old line and cutter Bowley is gonna have
to be all three phases, and they can't have the
breakdowns in the punting game. Hour Number two is coming
up next with Sean Woods and Gary Moore, our Western
Bureau teams to stay with us. There's more big Woodsider
on the way here on six thirty wlapsing.

Speaker 12 (39:05):
Any such tact sing can anything.

Speaker 4 (39:56):
Anything, Welcome back joining us now, and our number two

(40:56):
is our unforgettable guard Shawn Woods, his jersey hands of
rough head, coach at Scott County High School and coach.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Obviously you played college basketball, you coach college basket. You
love it.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
You're helping players prepare for it now. But the state
of the game is unlike it's ever been, thanks to
the portal, thanks to NIL. And now you've got a
kid who is three years removed from high school hoops.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
He went to the Elite League for three or not sorry,
he went to the G League to one of the
elite teams in the G League for three years now.
He's been approved by the NCAA to play college ball.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
He will spend two years, starting next season, at the
University of Louisville. And I just earlier played a comment
from Tom Izzo about this, the venerable coach at Michigan State,
who I really like a lot. I've only had a
chance to talk to him once, but he said, and
I kind of agree with him, not kind of.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
I fully agree. You can't blame the kid, he said.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
You got to blame the adults in the room for
letting this happened. And when I told you about it,
you were dumbfounded.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
Weren't you?

Speaker 1 (42:05):
No doubt about it? I mean, it's it's getting out
of hand, you know. I think the n C double
A is kind of beat up and worn down with
all the lawsuits that they're just like, you know, there
were you know, what happened to the rules and and
and the guidelines and bylaws of being a professional and
an amateur. You know, that's even thrown out the window.

(42:28):
N I L now because everybody's a pro, they're getting
paid professional money. So to allow a kid to actually
go and sign a professional contract playing in the G
League and then be able to come back and sign
a financial aid agreement. It's unheard of, and that lets
me know that the nc double A is just giving in.

(42:51):
They're tired of fighting lawsuits. You know, like you just said,
you know before we came on air. You know, lawyers
are getting making so much money off of these cases
that the NCAA is like, hey, you know, whatever, whatever.
You know, they're not even fighting. They're not even saying, okay,
you got to you know, go through a waiver process.
They're just allowing this to happen. And Coach Izzo's right,

(43:14):
you know, it's not the kid's fault. He's gonna try
to take A kid's gonna try to take advantage of
any opportunity that he can. And if a kid can
go pro and then come back amateur, what's the difference
between a kid playing overseas in Europe playing in the
professional league and not being elgeble to come play, you know,
college basketball in the amateur race in the United States.
It's the same thing.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
If I'm an, I don't get it.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
If I'm in his canner somewhere, I'm thinking, wait a minute,
I didn't take a dollar.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
The money went into a bank account, but I never
touched it, and I still.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
Couldn't play college ball. It's amazing how things have changed
in a short amount of time. I don't know if
there's an answer to this, Sean. I mean, you could say,
you know, just do away with the NCAA, but there's
going to be a group of schools with some rules
or whatever. Are they just going to do away with
all that and make it minor league basketball?

Speaker 1 (44:06):
Well, here's the deal. Winning is so important, and it's
so hard to win on a consistent basis with the
transfer portal in effect, that how can you how can
you you know, create an atmosphere of of you know,
building a program, you know, a year in and year out,
when every year you're gonna lose three or four, every

(44:28):
year you're going to bring in three or four. You know,
there's no such thing as you know, gaining experience in
that program going from your freshmen to your senior year.
So everything is different every year. And coaches are getting
fired because of this. But it's the ads and the
powers that be who actually allow these rules to happen.
But then the coach is the one who suffered because

(44:49):
he's the one who's putting up with it, and you know,
he can't build any type of consistency in all this maddening.
So you know, I feel sorry for all these football
coaches getting fire right now. A good friend of mine
at Southern University who you know, T Graves is a
great guy, great coach, has taking over two programs you
know that was in shambles being interim just to sit

(45:11):
Southern job as interim, get takes them to the to
the Swack Championship, wins the West. Then he has a
bad year because of injuries and transfer situations, things like that,
and he's fired before the season, right in the middle
of the season. I mean, you know, and like you
we were talking about earlier too, you're not just firing
a coach. You're not just firing a title. You're firing
a family. You know, these people you know who've dedicated

(45:35):
their lives making moves, and when you become a head coach,
most times, you know most so in assistance, you're gonna
buy a house. You're gonna try to set up shopping
in this community. And they want you to set up
shopping in the in the in this community to show
that you're all in. Well, these coaches need not to
buy homes now because you know you may have a contract,

(45:55):
but you may not five years. You know, two years
into your five year deal, you're done.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
You got to rent, not buy right eggs.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
If you're a smart individual, you know what I'm saying,
or you're gonna be buying selling houses for a long time. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
And you've got wives, You've got kids.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
Checking out school And I mentioned wives because you know
how it is, you're married.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Man.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
Coaches wives are a special group because they're the ones.

Speaker 4 (46:20):
Who ordinarily have to oversee the moves and check out
the schools and meet with realtors and all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
It's quite the ripple, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
I mean, listen to me. I've been a college basketball coach.
That was a college basketball coach for thirty years. We
moved seventeen times. She I mean ye, fourteen times. Wow,
fourteen Yes, fourteen times, and my wife had to do
all that. You know, I go, I get there first,

(46:50):
I got to pick out a home, okay, because she's
not there yet. But then she's got to pick out
of school for my kid to go to. You know,
she she's got an uproot and take all you know,
the because as soon as you get a job, you
get it in the spring right when the season is
over and now it's recruiting time, so you on the
road recruiting, and she's stuck at home by herself, you know,
which My wife was organizing, doing all the heavy lifting

(47:13):
while I'm out there trying to you know what I'm saying,
to do what's right for the school from trying to
get you know, find and prospects, and that takes a toll,
you know, and these and were you want us bought
in as coaches to the university, but the university has
never brought into us because one bad apple, one bad alumni,
one bad boost through, one bad fan or now social

(47:34):
media is putting so much pressure on these ads. They're
acting like kids. Now. They're responding just like kids to
social media. When there's some disgruntlement about coaches, ads get
scared thinking it's going to hurt the bottom line, and
who's the one to suffer first, the coach.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
And it's the bottom line.

Speaker 4 (47:52):
It's all about the bottom line because now coaches command
the greater salaries. And you know, we talk a lot
about buyouts of late and really that's what's triggered so
much of this craziness is And I know you feel
you're you're happy for your fellow coaches who make a
good living, and it's all about what the marketplace can bear.
But it's it's kind of started this this thing spending

(48:15):
out of control, hasn't it? All these big dollar signs.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
It's spending out of control, dick. But here's the deal.
If you know, these coaches now really got to you know,
put their pin to that contract and make sure that
they're taking care of them the back end, because you
never know when your day is coming. You know what
I'm saying, Your judgment day is coming. So you got
to make sure that you're protected. And so now these
sallars are going to be more. You know that, you know,

(48:40):
the buyouts are going to be more, you know, out
of you know, I commend you know, Stoops, I commended
you know cal it. You know, unfortunately cal to get
to get it because of that deal. But you know,
as Stoops, you know that major buyout, he's got kudos
to him because you got when you you know, you're
all excited about get that job and the press conference

(49:01):
and things like that, you know you still got to
be you know, you still got to be you know,
stay firmed in the contract. Process and say, hey, you know,
at the end of this deal, if you guys, it's
always got to be that question when you get rid
of me, if and when you get rid of me,
I got to make sure X, Y, and Z is
in place financially so when that day comes, because that
day is going to come. Not too many coaches now

(49:23):
retire from places long term anymore. So that contract, whenever
you sign, is the first one. It could be. You
could be a rookie and you happy to just get
that job. At the end of the day, you still
got a whole firm on At the end of the job,
what if and when you know, these people get rid
of me for whatever reason.

Speaker 4 (49:42):
You know, a situation I look at that I realized
can never happen again, and it's unfortunate. Is Rich Brooks
at the University of Oregon, and he kind of went
through a similar situation at Kentucky, but it was kind
of more sped up. But he takes over an Oregon
program of laughable back maybe right about the time you

(50:02):
were born or before that, Shawn, you know, we got
the top twenty five, right, Well, they used to have
the bottom ten or the bottom twenty five or something.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
Like that.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
It was really insulting to these schools. But one of
the wire services did it.

Speaker 4 (50:15):
And Oregon was always it seemed like, in that bottom
ten along with the Oregon State, Vandy, every now in Kentucky.
But Oregon was just a non factor in college football.
They hire Rich Brooks, and I won't go into his
resume prior to that, but he made Oregon into a
college football power. But it took several years, and they

(50:36):
stuck with him and they built up facilities, they built
the staff, They gave him time shown that they would
never give today to any coach. And now if Oregon
is not in the top fifteen, there's something wrong, and
that's because they gave Rich Brooks the time it took
to build a program.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
I don't think that's ever gonna happen again, do you.

Speaker 12 (50:59):
So?

Speaker 1 (51:00):
You know these people are so because of social media.
It has to do with social media.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
You know.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
Now you hear more of the masters than you ever did.
People that don't matter can get has an opinion that
has an effect, and that's what this has become. Now
you know what I'm saying. And the more the more
negative publicity you get on social media, the more pressure
that the ad feels and you know he has to
make a decision. And that's what this has come to. Now.

(51:29):
You know, the prisoners are running the asylum. You know,
the kids are you know, are getting paid more than ever.
You know, if the coach gets fired, that kid still
gets his money. Yeah, you know, whether he whether he's
good enough or not. You know, you paying these kids
millions of dollars. But only one one team wins the
national championship. Only one team wins a conference championship. So

(51:51):
you know, how are we gauging this?

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Good question?

Speaker 4 (51:55):
Good question, And I don't know if anybody has that
answer except hey, just win it all and you got
no worry about right. He is Sean Woods, he is
the unforgettable guard. Will come back and talk Kentucky basketball
on the other side of the break here on six
thirty WLAP Welcome back. We're talking with unforgettable Sean Woods.
His jersey hangs in the rafters of rup Kentucky and
purduing an exhibition game coach coming up. I know that

(52:17):
you guys on the high school level, I think you
can do kind of scrimmages against other teams like that.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Right right, we can't.

Speaker 4 (52:24):
Yeah, how much would you have loved this when you
were playing as a college player instead of an exhibition
against And you'd like to pour money into the smaller
schools that need it for their budget. But man Mark Pope,
you talk about a plus sending his team out against
purduing a game that doesn't count in the one lost
record and he can learn.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
About his team. How much would you have loved that
as a coach and a player.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
Well, we did that at Morehead. We were scrimmaged. We
were scrimmaged some of the best D two teams in
the country. Okay, close scrimmages, okay, And then you can
have an exhibition. You have a choice, right And so
we did that at more his state. So that you know,
that's been in effect for a while, but the power
five schools weren't doing it. Now that the power five

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schools are doing it and doing it big, you know,
that's almost like a preseason tournament or preseason whatever, you
know what I mean. And to make money off of
it too and be able to publicize it is even better.
And two powerhouses and for doing Kentucky going at it
and an exhibition is big time. And it does give
you early indications on where your team is right now.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
Yeah, and they should learn a lot, shouldn't they.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
No doubt about it, for due as a well coached team.
They got the number one point guard coming back in
the country, and unfortunately Kentucky's point guard is hurt right now.
So it's going to be, you know, a telltale of
how this season can be because we know, we all
know shoulder injuries can linger. And I hope that this
doesn't be another Lamont Butler situation, but it's the shoulder,

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you know what I'm saying. And you know this kid
hadn't had luck. I mean last year at pitt he
was dealing with a finger injury pretty much the whole year.
Now he's got a shoulder injury. So you know, your
number one playmaking we all and I always said at
the beginning, if you remember, we only gonna go as
far as he goes, you know what I mean. And
unfortunately that he's he's starting a year out banged up,

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and now we got to you know, Mark's got to
make some adjustments so early, you know it's it's now
Mar's got to you know, pull out some magic and
you know, the brain trust has got to come together
and figure out how we can do this and feel
sustain at a high level without a projected point guard
being out of not being here.

Speaker 4 (54:40):
Talk a little bit about about if you would, about
having to move guys around, and you know, because Pope's
gonna have to move somebody uh to the point guard
spot at least for a while, whether it's just Johnson
or a take ah away. And I'm not asking you
the second guess in advance what Mark Pope's doing, but
as a coach, when you move a guy who's ordinarily
a two or even a three to the point, you

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know he's not where.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
He's at his best. But that's a move that coaches
often are forced to make, isn't it?

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Yes it is, And you know, unfortunately, you know, Jalen
Lowe is the only pure point guard in the stable.
Normally a team has made two, almost three point guards
in the stable, but we only got really one pure
point guard in the stable. Now, other people got to
do things that they're not used to doing. They got

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to be playmakers. They got to think the game is
point guard now for us to be highly successful, you know,
they got to do things. Their role has changed, and
you got to be more dialed in and be more
of a playmaker, because the people who are taking his
spot it has to step in. They're all legit scorers
and bill legit scores their whole career. Now they got
to sacrify some things and play. You know, playmakers and

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point guards are born, they're not made. And now you know,
we're trying to get to the final four and only true, real,
true point guard is out for a little bit. And
hopefully this is just a stinger that's not gonna linger on.
But if it does, you know, we're almost in the
same boat that we were in last year.

Speaker 4 (56:10):
You, of course were one of the better point guards
in the country as a high school senior and as
a collegian. But you are a classic point guard and
that you were a past first, core second.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
Kind of guy. How tough is that?

Speaker 4 (56:24):
And I think I already know the answer to this.
When you've got somebody who has to step into a
point guard role when he's used to being a shoot
first kind of.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Guy, I mean, that's just like me going out now
Dale Brown has to be the point guard or Richard
Farmer has to be the point guard. Yeah, you know,
especially the year that Travis had to sit out, So
you know, it changes a lot. You know, it puts
a lot of strain on you because now you're not
getting those natural playmaking plays that you normally would get

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from your point guard. Now these guys have you know,
it's not gonna look as good, it's not gonna be
as smooth, and you're not gonna have that one guy
that when when when things go bad, it can just
break somebody down and go make a play for someone else.
So it's it's gonna be a challenge and it's gonna
the flavor is gonna be gonna be different. And uh,

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you know, now you really got to depend on your
system more so than you got me a playmaker that
they can go break down things when you know, go
make something happen when the plays break down. So it's unfortunate,
but I'm sure Mark's gonna find a way. But man,
I don't like I'm glad I'm not in his shoes
right now because now other people gotta gotta step up
when so much is riding on this year because you're

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you know, you're at Kentucky.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
You and I talked last week about playing in the
Blue White Game, which you of course did, and again
the Wildcats played on Friday night in a game.

Speaker 4 (57:47):
That was really kind of ragged. But I thought it
was ragged. Shawn, to my eyes, you know a lot
more about this than I do, just because they were
playing hard. They were being competitive. Uh, you know, just
like the pickup games you played in the practice sessions
you did and then Mark did as a player. I
kind of thought that was a good sign. And it
wasn't a pretty game, you know. It was a rough

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and tumble, kind of ragged game.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
Well it's supposed to be because these guys they know
each other, they know the plays. They're kind of picking
up the system a little bit so they can play
the play. So now what's good about it is now
you got to see who can do what when things
go down, when things go bad, or when when things
when that offense is not running well, who can go
get you a play? You know, you're looking at competitive situations.

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Are they fighting for jobs? You know, because everybody's jobs
in jeopardy right now except for Old Way probably, you know.
So you know, it brings so many things out that
you know, because you're not gonna play when you're plaguing
somebody else, they're not gonna know you as much. They're
gonna scout you, but they're not gonna know you as
well as you know yourself. So that that that's the

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reason why it's ugly. It's not gonna be smooth because
they know each other and they know the system and
know the plays. Whenever it's they're being ran before.

Speaker 4 (58:59):
I let's go, Howard. The Scott County Cardinals looking right now.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
We getting they were getting there.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
You know.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Every day we're making improvement and that's all we can ask. Well, man,
it's so early, but these guys are giving me everything
they got. We're working hard, doing things they've never done before,
and it's been refreshing, Dick, and I'm enjoying it.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
I haven't asked you yet. Are you a young team
and older team experienced?

Speaker 1 (59:20):
What I'm a young I'm a young team. We probably
got three four guys that that that really played varsity
last year. Wow. Uh so you know, we got a
couple of guys, some new guys that have decent varsity experience,
but other than that, we're fairly young in an experience.

Speaker 3 (59:35):
I gotta think though, that that both young and old
guys are hungry to get going aren't they.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
No doubt about it. And they're they're such great shape
because they're going through something they've never done gone through before.
But they banshed the bell, you know what I mean.
They show up every day and you know, their body's
feeling different than it's ever felt before. They're feeling muscles
that they never thought they had, and ligaments and tennis
things ever thought they had. But we're making improvement. And

(01:00:01):
I'll tell you one thing. We may not be as
talented as we want to be or experienced as we
want to be, but I'll tell you we'll be in shape.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
Coach, thank you so much, and we'll talk to you
next week.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Ok.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
He is unforgettable.

Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
Guard Sean Woods is Jersey hangs in the rafters of RUP.
Western Bureau Chief Gary Moore.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
Next on six thirty WLAP Welcome back to the Big
Blue and Cider. It is Wednesday.

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
That means we cast our eyes to the west and
look down I sixty four to our Western Bureau Chief.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
Gary Moore.

Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
He is a guy who is covering sports on the
West Coast and now on the west end of I
sixty four.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
He is our Western Bureau chief and he has much
to say.

Speaker 8 (01:00:38):
Well, we got two guys in a six pack, you
and me, and six things to talk ask Friday night
in sports we have had in these parts in a
long time.

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
For a couple of reasons.

Speaker 8 (01:00:47):
Number one UK and U of L basketball, they're back
in games that don't count exhibition games on Friday, first
of golf at six o'clock. You've been talking about this
sold out reperna preseason Umber one Purdue coming in against
preseason number nine. UK will also be on the SEC Network.
Then over here in the four two two preseason number

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eleven Louisville hosting last year's preseason number one Kansas Jayhawks.
Take it's still available for that one. Purdue, of course,
has got some great players, all American guard Braden Smith
for one. But I like UK's talent and depth. I'm
gonna take the Cats in that game. And Louisville is
playing a completely reconstructed Kansas team they were so awful

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last year, and uh so they're gonna be on the
road against I think a much talent, much more talented
than a deeper Cards team.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
So I got U of L in that one.

Speaker 8 (01:01:37):
And as you probably know from being over there and
hearing about things here, a lot of talk in both
cities about Final four potential for both Cats and the Cards. Hey,
settle down, all you beavises. Okay, we haven't got the
first game going on. Is that kind of talk legit
at this point or is it just rat poison?

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
Both it's legit because it's fun.

Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
It's rat poison if the players ingested, and that was
always obviously in Nick Saban's fear. Yeah, but no, I mean,
you know, why not why not talk about that if
you're fans, especially fans of two programs that belong I
will say, haughtily in the top ten every year. I mean,
it's it's good for basketball when the blue Bloods are
at their bluest and these fans put up with some

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crummy times and so especially of Late Louisville, but rebuilding
rosters and getting back quickly and being in the center
of attention pun intended. Yeah, that's good stuff. But I say,
because I don't have to worry about it. Players need
not buy into it. They just got to keep their
heads down and get to work and ignore everything we say.

Speaker 8 (01:02:45):
Second twig, also from Friday Night, Game one, twenty twenty
five World Series Across the Border in Toronto Jays and Dodgers.
That'll be at eight pm on Fox Sneil versus Gosman,
I got la in six and that when Vegas also
likes his favorites the Dodgers. The team ruining baseball, as
alleged by those not really paying attention. Why because the

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Dodgers went out and paid for these same exact players
other teams with billionaire owners could have signed. Case in point,
check this out, follow me on this. Dodgers' revenue last
year twenty twenty four was seven hundred and fifty two
million dollars. Their twenty twenty five payroll plus a luxury
tack of the Attacks of one hundred and fifty million,

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was five hundred and forty nine million combined, meaning they
spent seventy three percent of their revenue on payroll for players. Conversely,
Toronto spent seventy one percent on their payroll for the players. Meanwhile, Pittsburgh,
getting a lot of pushback deservedly so, spent thirty four
percent on payroll for players from their revenue, and the

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Reds all of forty two percent. Oh and the Mets
led everybody by the way, ninety percent of payroll was
on players, But I guess they didn't buy the right players.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
Well, they kind of make your point for you, don't they.
You know, just spending the most doesn't mean you're going
to buy yourself a championship, you know. Yeah, you can
understand why people are upset. And by the way, show
Hi paid for himself, didn't he with all the money
they made merch and ticket sales and things like that.
But every now and then when the Kansas City Royals

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jump up and win, it would have looked good for
baseball if Milwaukee.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
Had won the pennant.

Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
But you know, it just it's the kind of thing
where it's cyclical, I think, where you've got the richer.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
Teams step in and win, and then suddenly one of
the have not steps in and win. It's good for
the game.

Speaker 8 (01:04:46):
Third swig, let's take a swig of college football here
real fast. That ugly orange school from Knoxville comes in
number seventeen in the country, a nine a half point
favorite over the Cats on Saturday. I'm keeping the faith,
Dick if UK's defense place is good.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
This Saturday as they did last Saturday.

Speaker 8 (01:05:00):
Of the offense starts to take hints from Jeff Brahm
and start mixing it up a little bit, especially on
fourth and one. For God's sake, I like our chances
seven forty five sec.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
Network.

Speaker 8 (01:05:12):
Course, she'll be down on the field for that. By
the way, speaking of Jeff number nineteen Cardinals, get Woebegone
one in six Boston College for homecoming, as you should
do for your homecoming games. Get that kind of a team.
The cards are twenty five and a half point favorites.
That's on the ACC Network seven thirty Saturday Night, Dick.
We've got two more coaches heading for tropical paradises if

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they choose with fat severance checks in the past week,
Billy Napier at Florida finally and Jay Norvell at Colorado State. Meanwhile,
Mike Norvelle still has a job for the rest of
the season in Florida State after a Seminoles somehow lost
to lowly Stanford and Wisconsin's Luke Fickel got the dreaded
vote of confidence for the rest of the season after

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his Badger's got shut out and blown out at home
for the second weekend in a row. So ask he
was being patient with those two guys.

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
Really, the way to go or is it.

Speaker 8 (01:06:04):
They just don't have enough rich boosters to pay off
the multimillion dollar buyouts.

Speaker 4 (01:06:09):
The cynic in me says the latter are not the former.
But you also wonder about the value or the wisdom
of firing a coach mid stream, although that's what Scott Strickland,
of course down at Florida, the former or UK assistant
ad and he also it was classy about it. He said,
Billy Napier has left the program better than when he

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got it, but it was more reference to off the
field programs. Billy Napier, of the four coaches they've had
since serband Meyer, had the worst one loss record, the
only guy who was below five hundred and reminding Dan
Mullen won sixty nine percent of his games. But that
tells you about the standard at a place like Florida,
and the standard at Wisconsin has risen because they have

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made noise in the Big ten, and now at like
Kentucky they got a taste of it and the fans
demanded now every year.

Speaker 8 (01:07:02):
Fourth swig having a couple of noontime appetizers before the
UK and U of L games on Saturday. How about
number sixteen Virginia A deservedly unranked North Carolina. Now this
could be pretty juicy. Why Well, while back, The Athletic
reported that Virginia quarterback sensation Chandler Morris was supposedly extremely
interested in transferring to North Carolina from North Texas, but

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he was told, supposedly by GM Michael Lombardi that he's
too small six foot even and didn't have an NFL
arm strength, which Morris and Belichick have now since denied
that ever happening. Also at noon, number eight, Ole Miss
at number thirteen Oklahoma Sooners four and a half point
favorites in that one, the suddenly surprising UCLA Bruins in

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a conference game at number two Indiana the Hoosiers twenty
five and a half point favorites in that one. And
then you got thirty three. At three thirty, you've got
number fifteen Miszoo at number ten Vanderbilt Vandy two and
a half point favorites, and then seven point thirty. How
about this one, number three Texas A and M at
number twenty LSU A and M two and a half
point favorites. Dick, did you ever think you would hear

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me say the words number two Indiana and number ten
Vanderbilt and football.

Speaker 3 (01:08:15):
What is this world in which we live?

Speaker 4 (01:08:19):
I believe Indiana is obviously for real, But twenty five
and a half, it's a big number. And UCLA, what
have they won three straight since they've fired the coach.
That's pretty amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
Vandy will be Missouri. And here's why.

Speaker 4 (01:08:32):
Missouri has a terrific running back and Vandy has a
terrific defense which will shut down said running back.

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
So Vandy's gonna win that one. People miss out on that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:42):
Yeah, they've got a dynamic quarterback in Diego Pavia. But
and by the way, I heard an espn ac or
Butcher his name the other day.

Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
You own the SEC rights? How do you do that?
How do you Butcher?

Speaker 4 (01:08:52):
I saw that to yeah, right right, yeah, you know,
it's interesting going back to the Virginia North Carolina story.

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
Michael Lombardi, who's been on the show. I've read his book,
one of his.

Speaker 4 (01:09:03):
Books, and I used to listen to his podcast and
when he was on what was called the GM Shuffle.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
He's a former NFL GM.

Speaker 4 (01:09:10):
He used to make fun of Kyler Murray, the dynamic
QB at Arizona, and he believed he's too small to
be a championship level QB and he called him the
mayor of Munchkinville or the mayor of Munchkintown or something
like that. Yeah, you know, having fun with it, but
still disrespectful. You got to wonder what this guy is

(01:09:33):
saying about Diego Pavia. Could Diego Pavia help North Carolina
right now?

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
I would say so.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
One other note about ole Miss go back and look,
and I need to do this. I need to give
myself homework.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
Who has played ole Miss in Texas this year?

Speaker 7 (01:09:48):
Well?

Speaker 4 (01:09:49):
Kentucky has, and I want to see if anybody else has,
who else has played them tougher?

Speaker 3 (01:09:54):
Now both teams have lost games. Are the answers whoever
beat those teams?

Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
But in losses Kentucky played Ole Miss in Texas incredibly well,
which is kind of damning with faint praise. You know,
if you're playing that well against those guys, you need
to win more.

Speaker 8 (01:10:10):
And I hope they play even tougher on Saturday. They're
gonna have to Fitzwig. Let's cut to the pros. A
good one in LA tomorrow night. Thursday Night football three
and three vikings at the four and three Chargers. LA
is a three point favorite, so long as they don't
come out in those all canary yellow emasculating onesies like
they did on the Sunday and we're appropriately beaten soundly.

Speaker 3 (01:10:32):
By the Colts. Do you see those things?

Speaker 8 (01:10:34):
No football team, be it the Chargers or Oregon, anybody
should ever wear all yellow in a football game against
other real men and actual masculine colors.

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
Sit down now.

Speaker 8 (01:10:48):
As for Sunday Sunday, it's mostly men games. It's a
couple of three that look interesting, like the Cowboys and
the Broncos. Denver is getting tw three and a half
on that one. Eagle's hosting the Giants in a revenge game.
Seven point favorites are the Eagles and your Packers visiting
an old friend literally and figuratively Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers.

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That's Sunday Night football and your boys are three point favorites.
I like him to win in Pittsburgh? Is this right?
For the first time since nineteen seventy and the cover
as well. I think that's the That's what.

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
I saw that the.

Speaker 8 (01:11:23):
Green Bay has not won in Pittsburgh since nineteen seventy.

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
That sounds about right.

Speaker 4 (01:11:28):
And then you know they haven't played there much so
that you know they've only played there a handful of times.
But yeah, that's two of the traditional green beer or
NFL teams, green Bay and Pittsburgh.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
You know, people, you kids out there, don't may not
recall that.

Speaker 4 (01:11:42):
Pittsburgh was an NFL NFC team until they got shuffled
over to the AFC. So anyhow, that's gonna be fun.
And I do like my boys in that one. I
think the Eagles beat up on the Giants Denver. I
think spanks Dallas because of its defense. You know, you
got two dynamic quarterbacks. But that one's about defense as well.

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And I agree on the yellow unis. Let's put them away,
shall we?

Speaker 8 (01:12:11):
Speaking of fun unis, this is our sixth and final
swig here. You've heard of football crowds doing a white
out or a blackout, how about a tie die out.
Being a fan of the University of Oregon and being
a dead head and a connoisseur of uniform culture, imagine
now geeked up, I am about Saturday nights tie die

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out at the Oregon game Addson Stadium with Wisconsin. Why well,
the Grateful Dead began sixty years ago and starting in
nineteen sixty eight, they started playing at the University of
Oregon for total of twenty one times through nineteen ninety four,
including ten times at the very stadium we'll be playing
in this century Addson Stadium. So to celebrate, they thought

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they'd come up. Oregon and Nike got together and said
the uniforms and sideline apparel will take on a tie
die theme like the sold out crowd supposed to be wearing.
They're gonna have the Dead Steal your Face logo, only
with a duck in it and a lightning bolt swoosh
on shoulders of the game jerseys. They're really cool. You

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can see him right now on my X page nine
to five to five. Gary perfect band to tie in
or tied die in with Oregon and you know Wisconsin
as well, because Wisconsin's basketball team's got a student section
called the Grateful Red. Obviously, two schools that get it.
It's like we used to say years well, there's a
bumper stick that came out. There is nothing like a
Grateful Dead concert. There's nothing like a Grateful Dead themed

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football game. Now, I guess too.

Speaker 4 (01:13:36):
I think I told you that I never get a
chance to meet or talk to Bill Walton, But one
of the questions. If I only had one question, I
would have said to him the Grateful Dead. Why because
he was such a fan of the dead and he
probably could have talked my ear off for fifteen minutes
on that. But yeah, I love the idea. And you know,
I probably have a Kentucky Colonel's tied ie shirt. Not

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from way back in the day. It's something that's being
marketed now. But I'm like a big old kid, and
so are you when we see stuff like this.

Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
Oh, I've got to have it.

Speaker 8 (01:14:07):
You know, I'm gonna have one. I'm getting in the
latter boy, buy one of the jerseys on Friday.

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
Absolutely, Oh, good for you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
Excellent.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
Then you can proudly show it off here on our
radio show.

Speaker 7 (01:14:20):
A lot of good that does.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
Yeah, I do like that, and I do like the
fact that everybody's on board with it. He is Gary Moore.
He is our Western Bureau chief.

Speaker 4 (01:14:29):
We'll come back with a couple of hot reads for
Gary and just a minute here on the Big Bloon
Sider six point thirty WLAP, Welcome back. We're visiting with
our Western Bureau chief, Gary Moore. He visits with us
every week here on Wednesdays. Two guys in a six pack,
followed by a couple of hot reads. We throw them
at Gary. I'm wondering, Gary, what you thought of the
back and forth between Russell Wilson and.

Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
And you know where I'm going with this, don't you.

Speaker 4 (01:14:55):
Wilson, of course, a guy who may be playing his
way out of the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
As such a thing is possible.

Speaker 4 (01:15:04):
But Sean Payton went public with some comments when he
said he had been talking to the Giants owner about
the quarterback change when they switched to Jackson Dart, and
he kind of took a backhanded swipe at Russell Wilson
by saying, yeah, I hoped you would do that long
after our game, meaning we would rather play against Russell
Wilson than Jackson Dart. And Wilson clapped right back at

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him with a reference to a scandal from Peyton's pass, saying,
not surprise, class list, not surprised. Didn't realize that you're
still bounty hunting. Fifteen plus years later through the media,
Sean Payton got nailed for when he was in New
Orleans bounty hunting, telling guys, if you knocked so and

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so out of a game, you get a bonus. I
was kind of taken aback by that. Should the league
do something about this?

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
What do you think?

Speaker 7 (01:15:56):
No, let him go.

Speaker 8 (01:15:57):
I love dirt, dirty laundry in public at the grit.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
Here's the thing. Here's the thing.

Speaker 8 (01:16:02):
Yeah, a couple of interactions with with Russell Wilson when
he came into town. When you know, when the Brams
got back to LA in twenty sixteen, played the Seahawks.

Speaker 3 (01:16:13):
Stand up guy.

Speaker 8 (01:16:14):
Seemed like a class act. He was, you know, he's
a pro when he's dealing with the media and stuff
like that. But he and and Sean butted heads there,
and I think Sean didn't like the fact that they
had to give up five draft picks. They they signed
him for two hundred and forty two million dollars. Let's
not forget that, right, Russell made one hundred and twenty
four guarant or actually how much was guaranteed. One hundred

(01:16:36):
and sixty one was guaranteed. On hundred and sixty one
million was guaranteed. Didn't happen in one year, went to Pittsburgh,
didn't happen there. It hasn't happened in the Giants and
as a Seahawks fan, I can tell you in the
last couple of years it wasn't happening either. So here's
a guy who's butt hurt and sitting on a big
wad of money. I would say to Russell, nobody cares. Okay,

(01:16:58):
you're sitting on a lot of money. Go ahead and
snipe all you want. But look where you are right now,
and look where Peyton is right now, and the Broncos
are in much better of a situation.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
Peyton inherited him and didn't want him to begin with,
so he's not trying to hide back. Second Hot Reid.
This was expected, this was predictable, But the.

Speaker 4 (01:17:15):
Giants cut Jude mccadnie after his kicking catastrophe missed two
extra points, which enabled the Broncos to come from thirty
three down and beat the hapless Giants in one of
the biggest comebacks in NFL history. They should have fired
everybody on the defensive side of the ball, but they

(01:17:36):
fired the kicker. And this is a rare instance when
instead of firing a coach, you fire a player responsible.

Speaker 3 (01:17:44):
But that's easy to do, isn't it with the kicker?
But still, yeah, especially your kicker.

Speaker 4 (01:17:49):
Yeah, but you know they've already hired a new one,
but nobody on the defensive side as of yet has
been fired Gary, Is that right?

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
No?

Speaker 8 (01:18:00):
And the week or the month or the year is
still young, isn't it. And let's see what happens the
rest of the way. But you know, there's been a
lot of this knee jerk stuff about it. You know,
we've seen it in college football with coaches like, oh,
they lost again, fire him. I don't care how much
money he's making. But with the with the kickers, it's easy.
It's like, Okay, you had one job, basically, and you
failed on something as easy with you know, no, don't

(01:18:23):
get me started on some of that stuff with dealing
with kickers.

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
But again, I was.

Speaker 8 (01:18:27):
Expecting that to happen. I was surprised by the end
of the night that he hadn't been fired already at least,
you know, hey, get another plane ride home, pal.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
Okay.

Speaker 8 (01:18:34):
But you're right about the defense and at least the
defensive coordinator. And I think eventually, depending how the season goes,
they'll be looking for a new head coach by the
end of the year.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
As well.

Speaker 4 (01:18:42):
They signed Graham Gano, and this is the guy that
they tried out prior to this kid and cut him.
And this is Grano is an established NFL kicker, and
he kept the guy who was so green and they
paid the price for it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
So not a Giants fan, but some of my friends
are and I feel for them this week. So he
is Gary Moore. He is our west End bureau chief.

Speaker 4 (01:19:03):
We talk to him each and every Wednesday, schedules permitting,
but we check him every day on Twitter.

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
At nine to five to five.

Speaker 8 (01:19:10):
Gary, Always a pleasure to check out where you are.

Speaker 4 (01:19:13):
One sader one. That's right, and it's gonna be a
fun weekend. We'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 8 (01:19:18):
Be listening to you down there. You're gonna be a
reparena too, right.

Speaker 3 (01:19:21):
I will be in Rockinson, Arina, Yes, all.

Speaker 8 (01:19:24):
Right, we'll be listening there and the Saturday too.

Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
And that'll do it for now.

Speaker 4 (01:19:28):
Thanks to Gary Moore, thanks to Sean Woods. That's a
good night from the garage and Lexi.

Speaker 5 (01:19:32):
Du You know we here now as a tea.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
Well we will die as individuals as football guys. That's
all it is.

Speaker 12 (01:20:01):
Sat such statuta anything one sat stack the dips um

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