Horse Tales 09-13-25

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Speaker 2 (01:19):
Sheet's also available at the Redmile well last Saturday at
del Mar. The one hundred thousand dollars del Mar Juvenile
Phillys ur Stakes was won by Dreaming of Valleys at
two year old Philly by Upstart read by Windingstar Farm
and three starts dream of Valleys one, a maiden special
at law by four and a quarter lengths run out

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of the Money, and the Grade three Serrential Stakes of
del Mar. The charter of that race said that noted
that she hated the kickback, so they run on the
grass for a win, and the last Saturday Stakes It's
like a good move when the it's smart. You can
add Dreaming of Alleys name to the long list and
growing list of steaks winners side by upstock Alis, which

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already includes the like of Zann, a Grade one stakes
winner of two million, two hundred thousand that won a
place in eleven stakes, among them ten graded including the
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one Metropolitan, the Grade one Whitney, the Grade one Penn Derby,
and Grade one Travers other Graded States winners. Upstart includes

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the likes of Trademark or Graded States winner of a million,
one hundred and eighty seven thousand, six hundred and thirty dollars,
multiple graded states winn of Kathleen Old Graded States wrun
of prerequisite Graded States winner, mass Parade Graded States winner finally,
finally has won the Grade three Delaware Oaks and Virginia Oaks.
This year twenty two stakes winners thirty six states state sources.

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As a reminder of Start won a placed in ten
States nine graded sixth Grade one and earned a million,
seven hundred and thirty two thousand, seven hundred and eighty dollars.
I mean he's by flatter flatter, a very successful son
of a p indy, A good look at the yearlings
by upstart at the sales, tang to the potted darn
good you're looking at a runner rough Start stands at

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Speaker 3 (03:29):
From the horse capital of the world, It's Horsetails with
ursul Ellis. We'll talk about the horses, the people, and
the history of the thoroughbred industry. Hold away and a
secretary of that. What's the fight two and a half?
Lets now live from Kentucky's Bluegrass region. Here's purcel.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
And good morning everyone. Oh we're nice, beautiful day to day.
So I'm still waiting.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
So we may get some rain next weekend.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Well next weekend we have to wait that long.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yes, and it's gonna be hot.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
I'm tired of this. Whoever's in charge.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
I'm telling them. I mean, you know, my my little flowers.
I feel bad, but you know, I don't know whether
to just when I'm you know, kind of wilt or
I don't know, you never know what to exactly to
do at this time of the year.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah. So anyway, I've got.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
My fingers crossed rain and it is beautiful. It's fifty four.
I think my watch or my cock told me whatever
that is that's a phone.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
So well, oh, Michael's on his way COLCT. He has
to drive from it's no ol friends.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
And they're probably yeah, it's not too far. He does
every Saturday, well every other Saturday. I wonder where John is.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
He was here last week.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yeah, I wonder if he went to You said, there's
a big day of racing today.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
At church at Churchill down, So probably James scull is
down there because yeah, we're affiliated with he does a
lot of work for Churchill Downs. Oh he does well.
Well research is owned by Churchill Downs.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, so he does that.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, but he'll he'll probably call in and and well,
if he doesn't call in, he'll get sent us some
uh winter through bowl and uh and uh down at
the station and he'll give us some of his selections
for the day. Is the night day for Churchill what's

(05:47):
the big steak? I think it's the Pocahontas. Yeah, is
a big day? Is it? I'll be gone, yeah to.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Day now it's day time racing. They haven't racing at night.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Now they're running there. Let's see the Grade two Phaser
tips and Localst Glove Stakes, the road, the Grade three
PoCA Hottas.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
They're running the Iroquois. Okay, it's for two year old
coach and of course the PoCA Hottas. It's not for
the liberal lady. It's run for horses. Right, So I
think they've got some non graded stakes. We'll see if
I don't have some here. They're running the Open Mind States,

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named after the good Philly name Open Mind from the
US Wars back and open Mind. Open Mind. Well she's
been they're running the Louisville Furbred Society States, which is
non graded. It's for ow Thrills and up. That's the boys.

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And I've believed those two. They've got the two other states.
So that's there's one, two, three, three graded states and
two non graded states. That's a big deal.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah, what is Saratoa's still open? I think so.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
I don't think so. Oh, let's see, I can't keep
up with it. I'll tell you what they're running me.
They're running a bunch of uh staates graded states up
in Woodbine today. Oh. Yeah, they just had the Prince somebody. Yeah,

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that was the second leg at a triple ground.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
One of them was at forty Aree. That's at forty
are Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
But so the town is forty Area and I have
any idea I over it's north of the border. Yeah.
I've never been up there.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Me, I never, I never been. No, never I got
them up there would be Chicago. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Well, I've been up the east, you know, Maine. I
wasn't a panom Scott or something. I forget what the
name of it was. I had friends up there one
summer and a couple of us went up to visit
and look, Oh, went up the Long Island and went

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all the way to Montark and places like that.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
That was interesting, I know that over that direction.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, it was nice. The coast is pretty up that way.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
There's a whole lot of places in the old as
I am, and I hadn't been to. You know, me too,
I was in New York once. I maybe was up
there twice, or I went up there when the Daily
Ration for him hired me. Oh, yeah, about nineteen sixty eight.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah, when they were just buying it from the Indians.
Is that the one they bought from the Indians.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
I don't know anything about that. I bought the whole
place of the people who founded the Daily Ration form
of Jewish.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
And they didn't buy it.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
And I don't think they were in.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Now I'm putting that that's about us. Well, can't go
any farther than that. H And I don't think I've
ever been inland at New York.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
You know, touristy people like me.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
You know, we tend to stay along by the water.
That's why we know which way is north and south.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
And I'm reading a book today that was written there
were decades ago by Kent Hollinsworth. Yeah, And speaking of
New York and Belmont, although that family they got their
money building canals up there. The they made big money.
Who did August Belmont the first Oh yeah, yeah, right,

(10:06):
not the second. August the second was the brit Gussie
Man of War Gussie Belmont, Gussie Gussie.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yeah. I got some Germans in my family.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
If your name is August, they call you Gussie. I
don't believe I've got any any German uncle Gush.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
So there you go. I'll bet none of the later
generations the name Gussie. But anyway, that's beside the point.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah. But anyway, that's that's it's an interesting book. You
you ought to read it. I was reading the thing
Any wrote about Man of War and he went all
the way back to the Belmont family, and how that
is interesting.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
I would like to read that.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
And I thought that, uh, he dispersed his horses and
sold man of war, you know, and a sale because
he had gone into the service, right, And that's why
she named him. It might have she might have named

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him for that, but that's not why he was dispersing.
Oh yeah, he'd fallen on hard times because losing money
on some of these canal on a canal was building
up there, gotcha. Yeah, so yeah, I wouldn't like to
read that. Hollingsworth. Oh he was good. He was really
really good at research, uh huh and detail, and he's

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going to stuff that you know, you couldn't believe. Yeah,
very good. Where is that book? Yeah, I've been rereading it.
He's got a about mister Madden, John Madden, Yeah, and

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got a thing in there about him and how he
made his money and how he started out. You know,
he started out with horses, with trotters. Yeah, and he
would he would sell anything.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
I mean he he'd get a top horse like that,
and I guess he figured and he was right. You know.
The old thing is I'd rather tell on and be
sorry then keep on and be sorry exactly. I mean,
as soon as they've wanted his price, they've gone. I
mean he sold the best horses he ever bred. Yeah,

(12:41):
and he sold them. Nothing wrong with that. He ended
up a multi millionaire. Yeah, he was a smart horseman.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
I wonder where he was from originally, mad.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
I think it's Irish? Is that Irish?

Speaker 1 (13:01):
I I don't know about that name.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah, I asked me something I don't don't. I can't remember.
If you can't wrote about where the Maddens were from,
I'm gonna tell you it was. It was a very
interesting story.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
I don't have to read that. I like to read
it when and read when it rains. Oh well, yeah,
what's weird whether.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
I don't know if if you're going to be reading
anytime soon now next weekend?

Speaker 1 (13:33):
It is what the closest I got my Uh Chris
Bailey is who I follow. He's got a what do
you call it on the internet, like a web paine
or something, And I always put on him and see
what he's real good at out more than three or

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four days get.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
You know, Well, they're having a hell of a horse
sale out there. Yeah yeah, yeah, there's Michael.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Michael have feet.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
How are you?

Speaker 1 (14:03):
I'm good, good, beautiful day.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
In good great sale to heaven out there. Just started
talking about it.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
I should say, I know where's all this money coming from?

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Nothing?

Speaker 4 (14:16):
Trying to grow?

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (14:21):
You know Shack?

Speaker 1 (14:21):
How many is Shack had million dollars on several It's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
Yeah, Well there's you know, one way, there's a smaller
full crop, so there's just more, there's less. The fewer horses,
so they're going to go for more money. But even
with that.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
This is I don't know about that. I think this
year flight line, it's still exciting. And you think of
shrinking race tracks have there's fewer places to put them,
all right, And so the ones that are really into it,
the ones that are you know, Michael Poll and everybody
else you know throwing you know, figures horses around and

(15:03):
and there's cure to buy, yeah, and you get this
the fuel of And then there's this new I'm not
sure it's it's too complicated for me. But there's a
new tax law too that affects race sources and how
much you can deduct. And I guess the deductions are huge.
Now can take a horse and if he doesn't do well,
you've got a huge tax deduction. The fldelines are sailing like, yeah,

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for sure, they're sailing up there with it, going to
gun runners. And in the midst of a beautiful horse.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
I saw him at Lane's End.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
He's really beautiful. Who to see at White Oh?

Speaker 1 (15:43):
He did?

Speaker 4 (15:44):
When I went over there to pick up some extra
missus pastures, cookies, gets all these all these big bags
and Missus Pastor's cookies and she can't possibly consume them all,
and so they keep me in a closet over there,
and every once in a while we stop by and
pick up a few packages, and those the ones that
missus Pastor sens us for free. But I have a

(16:07):
great I have a great stories. Brian coming over today, Yeah, yeah, good, Yeah,
but this is my story. Though I might have mentioned
this before. If I did, I know you two won't remember,
you know what, So well.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
We need to kill times. Go ahead. Well, I'm good
at that.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
I'm good at that. I have a big tour I'm
doing at nine point thirty. Yeah, yeah, Mark and Mary
Simon are going to come by, and oh they haven't
seen the Hillcrest Farm.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Oh, we had a really good.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
Board meeting the other night. John held a really really
good board meeting. And I'm sure he'll he'll hear a
sum bit with you next week. But there's some great
things going on at old friends.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Great good. He's like Mark doing that?

Speaker 1 (16:52):
What's Mark doing now?

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (16:54):
I is traveling a lot. Huh, he's traveling a lot,
is he?

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (16:58):
He and Mary have been a lot of places. I'll
ask him in and I'll report that on it.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Well, good, I will, and you tell him, I said,
I really liked them both. Yeah, nice, nice those who
they used to be with, the old thir Bred times. Yes,
and you know, just through the years.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
And yeah that's nice.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
Yeah, he's great and uh and he's on our board,
he's on directors. And Mary's wife won all these Eclipse
Awards for her writing, so it would be fun. I'm
going to show that and bring them over to Hillcrest
and show them, show them the Hillcrest farm.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Well it's too bad a horse, but that's about the
most started out when he started out with old friends.
I was on the board. And then they had some
homeless guy they pulled in off the street like that.
Now they got these fansy people.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
Yeah, it's unbelievable how much momentum would have.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
It is, you're the pioneers of it all.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
Would finances got a little weak. When the finances got
a little week, which mostly all the time, our lawyer
came one day and said, you know, everybody on the
board is going to be responsible for these bills if
we don't pay.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Them, and oh my god, well what happened to me
was my legal insurance. Yeah, it's time to review that.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
And they said you have.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
To list what boards you're on, you know, and real stuff.
And I put that down and they said, well, whenever
you're on that kind.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Of stuff, your legal insurance goes up.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
Oh I can't. Yeah, really, forget about it. Yeah, they
guess you're coming and going.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
You know, tig Watt over there. She immediately was I
thought that was your nickname. Well, who do you think
you learned from? It? Had to I will be practicing.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Was that a license?

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Not a good thing?

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Now?

Speaker 4 (18:50):
There's a lot of good racing today all over the
United States, you know.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Yeah, yeah, is there Togas still going?

Speaker 2 (18:59):
No? There at Aqueduct.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
It's called Belmont at Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
A ridiculous name. I hate it.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
I hate it.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
Hey, they're not at Aquard aqueducts at Aqueduct.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
There you go, come on, stop it, just call it Aqueduct.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
Let's go. And then when Belmont comes, we'll know we're back.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
To the big time. There you go.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
But second to that, you know, we got the Iroquois today,
Churchill Downs, got all these really good steaks races, right,
But the most interesting.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Race is it Mammath Park? Oh, here we go.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
The fourth race at Mammoth Park. And I'm gonna explain what.
So years ago, many many years ago, you know, when
when I mentioned Diane that you know, we you know,
we both took the buyout at the Globe and our
son lives in Australia, and off we go. And I said,
you know, I wanted I got offered this job from

(19:56):
the Thirdbord Retirement Foundation, and uh, and I want to
move to Kentucky. Diane says, well, I've never even been
to Kentucky. I said, oh, you like it, And I said, besides,
if we don't like it, we'll just come back. You know,
we can do whatever we want now, we're not stuck.
And I said, if we hang around Cambridge, hang around

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Boston all those time, people say what are you riding
and everything, we're just sitting bars all day and get
drunk and ruin our lives and it will be terrible.
But if we go to Kentucky, it'll be different.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
It'll be good.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
And if you don't like it, we'll do it. So
I said, you'll come right. She goes, well, let me
think about it. So I said, okay. So twenty minutes
later she comes back and she goes Okay, I've decided
I'm going to go with you.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
I said, oh, that's great.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
She goes, but there's one condition. I said, okay, what's that?
And she goes that when I leave you, you won't
come looking for them.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
So that was it.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
But now, a few months ago I got a call
from Brett Jones over and Brett says, Michael, I named
a horse after one of your stories. I said, you did,
a daughter of Cairo Prince, And I said, what's her name?
Heels don't come looking. Well, here we are fourth race

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today at Mamouth Park. Oh let's see.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Yeah Cairo. Well that's that's stood breathing here, I'll tell you. Yeah. Yeah,
oh good.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Now, just so people aren't going to go and run.
And Brett told me she's probably gonna need a race.
She's been off for a while, but but her first
race she was very, very good and she bred obviously
to go along on that.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
Yeah, and she's beautiful, beautiful gray Cairo Prince. You know then,
but Lindsey Schultz, who's the train, have sent me some pictures. Oh,
let me, can I look at it?

Speaker 2 (22:03):
She's run once, run second or first start. Yeah, well
that's it to you, isn't that's something? Well, that's great. God,
what race is that?

Speaker 1 (22:12):
The money?

Speaker 2 (22:13):
They still fourth race? The still own it, still owns it.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
That's cool.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Oh that is so nice guy. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
And you know the other thing is people like him
that are so nice and so smart attract talented people
because they want to work for people like that and
they want to be part of it. Is a chip
off the old block. Yeah, he's his father. Believe everybody,
A little lady was.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
That thirty years you know, when they worked that long
at those places.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
I still miss MITO.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
Know, he's unbelieved. He was so nice, so smart. You
and I talked about you when he first got started,
but both of us had doubts. Oh, I can't believe that.
I think he told you. Yeah, you did tell me,
he said to me. When I went over to talk
to him, I said, I have this idea and I

(23:09):
really don't know what I'm doing. I need some advice
from people in the hunt do this, and I know
that you do, Governor. And I explained to what I
wanted to do, and then he goes, Okay, I'll uh
let me get this straight. You're gonna get these horses right, Yes, sir,
you're not gonna breed them, no, And you're not going
to raise them, no, And you're not gonna sell them.

(23:30):
What exactly are you going to do? And I said,
I'm gonna put them in my yard and hope people
come visit.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
You know, Oh that's funny.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
Yeah, but bred right, it's a chip off the old block.
And look at the horses he's got over there now,
the breeding stock, and everything's done exactly right. And doctor
Waldri is here.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
I know, how about that. He's brought all well, he
can explain shirt. Well, he's got a red white little
shirt on with animals and fish and sticks and fish.
And I thought it was the mascots of everybody in

(24:13):
the SEC. Now tell me again, what races that fourth
race at Belmont?

Speaker 4 (24:21):
At Mont?

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Okay, what for him?

Speaker 1 (24:27):
They named it for? For of comments, Isn't that's funny?

Speaker 4 (24:35):
So we're all going to be rooting Bread now. To
be perfectly frank about all this and honest and open
about it. Bread said, she's probably gonna need a race
because she's been she's been away since February. But she
ran well in her first start and that was a
sprint on the dirt and She's obviously bred to along
on the grass, so that's what she's going to.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Is probably a.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
Good good morning line because I think this it's a
wide open race. Chad Brown, of course, has got one
in there that could. Who trains her, Lindsay Schultz. It's
a really nice woman. She want a nice race up
in Saratoga. That's where I met her. I said, Lindsey,
she's all going away through it. He said, how's don't
come looking. She stopped and talked to me, how the

(25:22):
horse was doing and everything that is. And it's it's
so crazy that if I'd have known this a little earlier,
I would be on the road. Yeah, I really want
to see her.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Yeah, you could have gone. That wouldn't have taken all
that time. You should have It's funny, I said the
same thing. You should have take the I don't come
looking for you, I'm.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Looking for you. I guess that he.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
He listens to the till then, because he heard that
you say that. Yeah, I think he does did well.
He advertised on the show.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
He might as well has for you know, boy, when
he doesn't listen, that really cuts down our listenership, you know, ratings.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
You know, it's a calm guy. His dad.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
His dad listened to it religiously. He was one of
our original sponsors. I tell you how long ago is
that he was advertising on a radio show that I
was I was doing and getting paid by the station.
They knew how.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
You know that's so long ago that they printed the
racing for my parchment.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
And he had to turn it back in.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Let me tell you I suck.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
I saw this thing on Facebook and I said, you know,
it was an It said, here's an old advertisement, and
they're kind of interesting. It's a slim vone. Remember slim vone.
Oh yeah, sure, yeah, that was six years ago.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Wow, saying that blows.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
The old way.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
That doesn't take much to do it now either.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
Well, here's doctor Waldrich. He's all the way up here
from Mississippi State.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
He brought me.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
Oh I shouldn't say what he brought me.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
He came up. You'll be mad because he didn't bring
you in it. You better brought some cheese.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
What below?

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Hey, you didn't give a tals the week? Remember right
here the driveway? Oh all right, are you the car?
You're the lens the less? Yeah? Okay, are you?

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (27:37):
When's the Parking. Give Michael Antonio, okay, let's see good
after he's sick of it, but no one was six
You Kentucky Down. The Grade three two million, five hundred
thousand dollars FANDUE TV Invitation States was won by Epic Ride,
the four year old son of Blame. Breaking from post

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position eleven and a field of thirteen ety grind led
all the way one by two lengths, posting fractions of
twenty two and two, forty four and four, one oh eight, one, one,
thirty two and two, mentioning the course record for the
one mile event by just three pits. Of a second
winter also of the LEONARDA States at Turfway and placed
in the Grade one Bluegrass States at Keenland, the Grade

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three Peraval Stakes also at Keenan, the Grade three Maryland
Sprinted Pimical He Kentucky Down Previous Stakes at Ellis Park,
and the John Battagda Memorial at Turfway. Epic Grinders earned
one million, nine hundred and twenty six thousand, eight hundred
and thirty nine dollars, read by Fred W. Hirtrid, the
third of our Neighbors over Here. He was sold at

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the Keenland September sales for one hundred and sixty thousand,
Blame has established a remarkable record. Had stead thirteen percent
of his holes and seventeen percent of his starters as
earned black type. He sided a classic winner in this country,
a classic winner in France, Epic Rides Graded states win,
followed by just days a Group two win by Sabaya

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over in France. His progres won Stateside dirt grass artificial
and here is a great source of stamina. Winner of
the Clip's Award, one of the Grade one Breeders' Cup
classing earner of four million, three hundred and sixty eight
two hundred and sixteen dollars. Blame is passing on his
superior class. Take a good look at the Blame unions

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at the sales, and keep in mind that his daughters
are becoming collector's item. He's a terrific wimmer side. Blame
stands at Claven Farm. Get in touch with Jacob West.
He's out to the sale now probably eighty five nine
nine eight seven two three three when the website is
Clavern Farm. Like, I know he's out there. You've seen
his picture on Thirdbred Daily Times. Yes, Jacob Well the

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place to be tomorrow is in Barn twenty three and
twenty four to see the consignment from Indian Creek Agent.
They will find Phillies by Jackie's Warrior by Bold Lee
or Mandalon tyber Knight. His central quality Omaha Beach, the
nation's leading third Cup Sire in the Mischief, who is

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well on his way to top of the nation's North
American stylist for the seventh straight year. Jack Christopher Life
is good, Classic good, Magic Upstart who has another stakes
winner in del Mar just last Saturday. And the Great
Curling is by the Great Curling. Coats are by the

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late Great Uncle Mole. The Young Multiple Grade one winner
Charlatan Money, Kentucky Down's winner and Top Sire Niquist Kentucky
Derby winner. I should be into Top SI Niquist. Life
is good in the central quality. The inner midst of
Philly is out of the young stakes winner Aldery's Time,

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a daughter of Uncle Old that earned three million, two
hundred and six three hundred and ninety three dollars. He's
hip number one eighteen forty Hip nineteen twelve is the
Philly by Curling and her damn has produced two graded
states winners sixteen forty six is from the first crop
by the brilliant Jack Christopher out of a young stakes

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winner and now Namau. It's another terrific consignment for Indian
Creek where they have bred, raised and sole major States
winners the world over. Once again, they are in BArch
twenty three and twenty four. Indian Greek is closely associated
with the clave Ward Agency, which was established back in
nineteen thirty one, located right here in Paris, Kentucky. They

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can ensure your purchase at the fall of a hammer,
just give him a call. At eight five, nine ninety seven,
eighteen sixty one, I stopped by the office at the
eleven or two Main Street in Paris. Good look at
the sales. Oh, okay, where are we Jackie? They thirty
were cool more. Oh, that's that's before the Dana. I

(32:04):
try to catch up with him doctor Harris. He wandered outside.
He'll be back and he's out there talking to Michael. Yeah, Michael, yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
The cheese, Yeah, I think that's what that's cheese.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
He is wonderful. It's the just tastiest stuff. Yeah. They
make it down in Mississippi State, Yeah, and sell it.
Then that's the only place you can buy it. And
it comes in a great big thing about the side,
bigger than softball, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
I guess it's Oh yeah, I guess it's a volleyball.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
I would say it's almost I don't know.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
How many pounds you think it is too, I don't know.
I don't know either, but it's taste.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
In one of those things they dipomant. I don't know
if it will be two pounds, but at least a pound.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Well, I'll think of how small little pound of butter is.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
So it's at least two. Oh god, it's way more
than that.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
I didn't think one of those little things is. I
don't know, but it's good. We got to have something
tonight with cheese. Hey, here it comes, Oh, here it comes.
Look he's bringing it bringing it in.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Now.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
We were just go af there, so we did.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Do they have milk?

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Con almost forgot to get that cheese. So that was
the last top out of stark Wall. That's why. How
much is this way?

Speaker 1 (33:38):
I think that one's though, My god, it's three pounds.
I it was guessing two at least, but three. It's
from the Mississippi Agriculture and Forestreets Experiment Station.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
Or MAPHIS they call it MEPHIS. That's where the horses
are and the know the riding team is over there,
the questioning.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Team, and how do they do?

Speaker 1 (34:07):
How are they doing?

Speaker 4 (34:08):
I think they're I think they're still at a club level.
I don't think they're at the Yeah like Auburn, Auburn
till one national championships, I think, yeah, the team team events.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Does all the SEC teams have that? I mean have SEC.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
They used to compete now? If they do now, I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
No idea club level or you can be a truly
college athlete level. Yeah, college I know what Auburn they're through.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
College athlete level.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Yeah. Club fek's got anything? It's you kids got a
horse running that they bred? Have you seen that?

Speaker 2 (34:51):
No that they agreed that they've been the things up
in the stakes? Yeah, I can't remember. They've had. They've
had a couple of stakes winners this year. The University
of Kentucky. They're out on the old main Trance farm
on Newtown Pipe. They own and they breed horses, have

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for years.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Yeah, I know because people seasons to them.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
You don't see him pop up every week. Well, no,
you know when you're beating the free season.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
We never pop up with many.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
It's that pop up part of.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
We've read a couple, but that we didn't train them. Well,
you have to sell what sell and the good stuff.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
So you have you?

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Have you been to see your coachet? No?

Speaker 4 (35:50):
And I forgot to call the guy at the farm,
so I may miss him because today's the only day
I could see him. So I felt bad about calling
him on the same day because I know he's probably busy.
So I man, I get to see him. Oh, I
forgot all about it. Wow, I forgot about it.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Well I would I couldn't. I couldn't stand it.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
Oh, I couldn't either. Well, I talked to doctor Copeland
last night.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
I meant to call him after talked to doctor Copeland.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
I talked to doctor Copeland for quite a while, and
then I forgot because we talked for on the phone.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
I just had a birthday party for him up here. Oh, man,
ninety nine years old? Anything and you knew what he said?
Dan and Leo's wait wait till next year's Yeah, he
make him great reservations and man, Okay, started advertising hard.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
She said it was really nice. People kept coming in
and going out and.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Stuff like that. Yeah, he didn't want to sit down
at the table with because he can't remember names too well.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
When he can't hear, I mean, you know, when you
get to that be us, we can't hear thunder. I
put these on.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
I gotta take these. I get mine through the government,
my glasses, my mother, I mean, my hearing age and
uh there who loud that. I've got to take them back. Yeah,
I have to go back.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
I kept turning them outself. Ursul's hearing all this stuff
real loud. So when he talks to people, he talks real.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
I can hear them. My listen, I can hear the
next guy next door have gas that bad? So well,
we gotta we got to adjust these here too much.
Well they should us on to see the cold though.
Oh Moretown had three states winners over the weekend. Two

(37:50):
of them have I don't even know because I've been
we've been up here working, you know. So two of
them are at in Virginia. Nice race, well clone him
down here Earth. That's pretty tough racing up Yeah, well
that is so great. They got they got a dirt
track now. But either way, what are you call him? Rocky?

(38:16):
Is his barn name rocky Man? Yeah, we had a
rocky Yeah, that's an abbreviation.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
You it's rocky something else. His real name is is
good Rocking Daddy.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Good rocking Daddy. I can tell you like that A
lot is that for years he's still song. Have you
ever have you ever cut him? No, it's difficult.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
I'm a typical third bred on her.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
You know you got a shot to be a daddy,
then you got it. You know you can't cut because
there mightn't be a stallion. So typical bread people get
to say, asked, Betsy is.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
Uh see, oh well.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
You haven't been over yet.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
You wonder how he is to be around.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
He was fine, and last time I saw him, he's
he doesn't act like a colt at all. So he
may now because he's been turned out with those colts.
But yeah, he's never been coltish at all.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
He's turned out with another colt that was the thing.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
Four other ones or five other ones probably those paddicks
might be I'm sure they're ten acres.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
It might be twenty that he's turned out. Oh that's good.

Speaker 4 (39:28):
Yeah, So he's really muscled up and he's grown a
lot from what looks like.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Wow, we tell these pictures.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
I got some new ones not to show you today,
but I want to go see him. But I just
kind of got by me because I knew he might
be busy with the sale to when did you have
to go back? I have to go back tomorrow because
I have to teach class. I have to teach class Monday,
and then we give a test for people who graduated

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from VED schools overseas.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
There's a have take to get certified to practice.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
You.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
I bet you get a lot of them from Ireland. Well,
the Irish schools.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
They're all credited the same as that, So I guess
there's something one.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
I guess it's only UC Dublin.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Blacksmiths. Real good, that's a blacksmith.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Too, best blacksmiths we've ever had. Both been from. Yeah,
from Irish to go through that Irish national stood. Yeah,
it's beautiful there too.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
You went, That's right, I went because I I do
a little work for a friend of mine's Irish bet
and he's.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Developed this app. I can't remember.

Speaker 4 (40:46):
I can always get the name of it wrong, but
he has an app. Now, so if you say you
gave your horse, but you can put that in your
app with with the horse, and that app will tell
you when the horse should be clear to Rayling Drug.
And it's a really nice appy he's designed. And so
I do a little bit of stuff for him. I

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try to keep up with the North American stuff for him.
And so Easton County called there and his office is
in the cura when you go through the race tracks,
and there's some buildings back in there, and then on
the Irish National stogell. He took us an Irish National stugs.
He took us to the curb and you go back
in there and there's a skeleton of some famous horse
in there. I can't remember the horse's name. And then

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the Irish it's it's the name of the organization's Irish,
so I can't pronounce it. But the Irish Aftercare Associations.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Also in that same building.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
Oh okay, So he showed us all around killed there,
and we went down to the little town and had
lunch and stuff, and he drove us around the sheep
route turned out in the racetrack and all these sheep,
you know, had the color on them so everybody knew
whose sheep they were, and it says anybody ever hit
the sheep so well all occasions and like the stupid

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ones on the other way, and I get hit, but
I'm there to fine turn out walking around.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
Speaking speaking of ours, I'd better do in commercial here
for Coulmore yep well at Stake five Saturday, justify motown
and maximum security, I said Syrus sired Steaks winners justifies
as Stelli five one of the Great three Ladies Marathon
invitation at Kentucky Downs, leading all the way to scorebar

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two and three quarter lengths. Never had the money. She's
won four in a row and earned a million four
hundred and forty two thousand, six hundred and four dollars
Triple crown winner justifies a sire this year of fifteen
stakes winners, twenty three Steaks officers, five graded stakes winners,
two of them Grade one. Motown sired two stakes winners
at Colonial Downs plus another at Canterbury at Colonial Downs.

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Doancho Winter earlier of the Gold Fever Stakes in New
York and of three hundred and forty one thousand, five
hundred and fifty one dollars won one hundred and fifty
thousand dollars the Hall Steaks. Catch Can won the two
hundred and fifty thousand dollars Old Dominion Oak and she
finished second by neck in the Grade three Mazarine stakes
at a Woodmine and how about that won the Northern

(43:12):
Lights Forturity at Canterbury as catch Can sold for two
hundred and ten thousand at the Oversapo sal and she's
earned three hundred and twenty thousand, three hundred ninety five dollars.
Motown sired and his first three Crops eighteen stakes winners,
seven of them won grated station thirty six were black type.

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Motown is a Grade one stakes winner by the late
Great Ashford stud Sire Ashford Studsire Uncle Moe. Maximum Security
is the shire of instant replay win of the two
hundred and fifty thousand dollars Superderby Louisiana Downs. He has
also won the three hundred thousand dollars Texas Derby at
lone Star and the two hundred thousand dollars bath House

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Road Steaks at Oaklahom six hundred and thirty eight thousand,
six hundred and seventy eight dollars. Maximum Security is also
the cyber Rosa Salley, a three year old stakes winner
in France, Maximum Promise placed in the Grade three Jeff
Ruby and John Battago stakes both at Turfwave and Good
Call all from his first cop Maximum Security, a champion

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of three, won sixth grade stakes and four Grade one
and earned two million, four hundred and thirty two thousand,
nine hundred dollars from More. On the stays today as
West Call the farm A five nine eight seven three
seventy eight. The website is Coumore dot com.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
All right Quilling, leathern PEC, follow me Service and leather Goods.
Since nineteen eighty two. It's the nation's largest custom halter shop.
Twenty thousand halters a year ship world wide. Quilling q
U I l l N dot com in Paris nine
eight seven oh two one five. And that's why you

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need to go online see what they've got. They always
have sales and stuff. That's why they don't do a
paper catalog anymore. When you do that, you're kind of
you can to have a sale on something, you know,
and stuff like that because it's already marked and all
that good stuff. So I'll tell you they running that

(45:21):
sale out there. They had Quilling halters everywhere. I mean,
they're just beautiful. I was talking to somebody downtown the
other day. They were on their way to Quilling. I
can't remember who it was.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
I think you're going over there, your mind.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
The vet sids want to go there and get a
bunch of stuff.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Oh yeah, it's wonderful.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
They're out of the sail.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
We're going to meet up out there about ten o'clock.
I think I've got some yeah friends, some vet friends.
Doctor roodse Bell is going to meet with us and
talking to them about sale. Yeah, it goes around.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
That's great. Well, and then when there's horse shows, these
big deal worse shows, that the worst part. They always
get bunches of them run over to Clilling. They got
anything need repaired and they want to buy something new.
That's the place to go.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
It's just all kind of gorgeous stuff.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
Anything made out of leather. It's just beautiful. So stop in.
It's when you go into Paris. It's on the right
side of the street. You can't miss it. It's big
and I can't remember what blocke it's in. And I
got schooled pretty big time about a week or two
ago about where it was it's just.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
It's on the right.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
Yes, I know it's on the.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
Yeah, going north, of course that would be a little north. Yeah, anyway,
I thought it was the Secretariat's too far. I know,
well it's it's right. It's half a block before you
get to lives. And of course the lives. The frames
don't mean they hear all that.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Who yeah, uh huh, okay, I'll take your word for it.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
She had it down by the courthouse or something else,
you know.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
And I'm the one that has to find our way home. Oh,
listen to this. We can't go anywhere. Do I turn here?

Speaker 2 (47:16):
We've been driving to Claven once a week for four years, said,
what do I go to?

Speaker 4 (47:22):
This?

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Is it the next top?

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Well? See, if I take away I want to go,
I get corrected at every corner.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
You should have turned. Well, so now I just give
up and say, well, okay, what next?

Speaker 1 (47:35):
And then we get there and they never never.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Says anything about how can you notice you came into
an argument, whether of course not.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Oh well, anyway, Hello to Ralph Quolling, great guy Quolling,
Weather Intact q U Y L L I N dot
com in Paris nine eighty seven oh two one five.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
All right, Well you're going old you going to over
to the tack shop, aren't you?

Speaker 4 (48:03):
The students are. I'm I think I've got everybody quill
and haltered up at my place so far.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Good, the dumb things don't wear. The students are going
out there, I think.

Speaker 4 (48:13):
So they want to get some Kentucky belts and yeah
alters and all that.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
I think they might make them while you wait, but
I doubt they've got them hanging with the name plates.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
That didn't take very long. And when they close it
noon on Saturdays, so you gotta get there.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Oh. I was always hesitant to get a name plate,
don't mind, you know. I was afraid I could caught
no situations somewhere where I had to get out without
my paint. For God's sake.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Well, let's just say it used to be a little
more sleep. What's going Mississippi.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Its not true, of course, but it made a good story. We've,
you know, never let the truth stand in and we
have a good story.

Speaker 4 (49:10):
We've we've had a run of some colleges lately, like
everybody does. And we still have that summer asthma, which
luckily it doesn't happen in Kentucky, even as hot as
it is, and those horses are on pastor and they'll
get heaves stimes. But it's the worst heaves I've ever seen.
And it's always the hottest time of the year, and

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he's heaves, and it's a summer pastures. It's not like
you know up here, you see heaves from your winter
and bring a horse inside, and got hey and the
halo after straw and the halo after both.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Many years ago, when I was living on Nuxiana, we
had this old horse. The only time he ever had
the heaves is when you see you coming with a saddle.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (49:52):
Right, So if they got their good heaves, they're not
going to run away from you. If they got the
summer pastor, because u they'll be really sick, really breathing hard,
having a lot of trouble. And sometimes what happens is
each of those what's true for no matter what breed
or what type of heaves, over time, each of those

(50:15):
episodes puts down more scar tissue around alone, and so
then it can't the airway can't relax anymore. And once
you have that, drugs won't work. And so we give
them a drug called atropine and if they're atropine side
people use as you can use it for eye and

(50:35):
for eyes too if you ever had some eye problems.
But it helps to relax the muscle and so they
can breathe better. So we give them that and most
of the time they respond to it, but they're really
bad they won't or take them longer. But sometimes off
the needle before you get the needle out of the horse,
horses breathing better. And so we do that, and then

(50:56):
we've done the navy lizer therapy, you know where the
the thing on their nose, and we like the flex
and that. But anybody's looking for nebulizers. They're expensive, but
they're worth it because they worked really good. It kind
of made like a feedbag and put around their head
because a lot of people on the track have those
because you can now.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Do they outgrow this? And what I mean? Or when
the water when it gets.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Cool, Well it's seasonal, yes, ma'am, so season So I
just have to tell people when you see that. And
it's true too.

Speaker 4 (51:28):
If you have a horse, if you just have a
horse with heaves, if you have a horse bringing the
barn to get heaves, you just have to know once
you start seeing them breathe harder, because what they do
is heave. They have to push harder at the end.
It's not that they take it take a bigger breath
and they breathe in. If you watch them, they have
to push because people talk about a heave line, and

(51:49):
that's what the heave line is is they build up
their abdominal muscles so much they're stronger, you know, like
a person set up, and those those muscles become more prompert.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Because I have the push to breathe out.

Speaker 4 (52:02):
And so if you see that, you just got to
know you have to start treating O Bill Mom.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Yeah, things like that.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
Russell's gonna do a commercial. Can you wait? Oh if
another questions hang around?

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Yes? No, yeah. The last weekend of del Mar, the
Grade one three hundred thousand dollars del Mar Debutante Steaks
was won by Bottle of Rouge a two year Old
Philly by Vina Russo and a Grade two Music City
Steaks in Kentucky downs went to She's So Spicy of
three year Old Philly by Matuli, Bottle of Rouse a

(52:33):
Green second and the first start has since one back
to back outing, said del mar one hundred thousand dollars
graduate of the Kingan September Sales. He's already earn two
hundred and forty thousand the Grade one Sire. A Grade
one sire with Vino Russo has sired twenty seven stakes
winners in his first three cops. He won the Grade
one Breeders Cup Classic and over four point eight million dollars.

(52:57):
He is currently his most accomplished son and his stand
to spend Thrier So it was Mattoli one of the
Grade one Briers Cup sprim of four Grade one stakes,
the Eclipse Award and three million, one hundred and four thousand,
nine hundred and ten dollars. His brilliant daughter, She's so
spicy at two hundred found dollars Grador the Frajigyptan Kentucky Sales.

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Won her career debut at Ghost dream About sixteen at
a Corner Lenx Limestone Stakes at Keenan. She won that two.
She won the Grade three Mansale Stakes at Churchill, won
the Grade two Music City at Kentucky Downs in a million,
five hundred and seventy thousand, two hundred and seventy dollars.
She's one of fourteen states winners, twenty five stakes officers

(53:38):
from the first three cups by Mattoli, among them graded
stakes winners Helena's Forte, Booth of o'hllienas Forte then Booth,
and Vv's Dream. He was the champion Freshman Sour of
this year. Standing leading size is a tradition at Spencery Farm.
As we speak the number one general sire in the

(53:59):
mid shift number one. First costs are your bom number one.
Second crops are Wacoma number one. Third cops are on
the beach and the Spencer Farm. I'm all on the
sas called theres Bryan and Mark or David Day found
nine two, nine fours years thirty on the website and
Spencer Farm dot com.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
All right, I talk about Hill Parker. What a what
a good guy. He's one of those people. He's almost
like Ralph Colling, all kind of uh energy and knows
stuff and he's very interested in what he does. He's
not just going through the motions.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
He's they're both nice guys too.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Yeah, And they are both nice guys. And he'll has
licensed realtor and a licensed buyer REP and senior real
estate especially all that good stuff. Which means when you
were looking for farm, he knows the zoning rags and

(55:03):
the land stuff. He knows local rags and state and
all that stuff. So you go somewhere and says, well,
you can't actually do blah blah blah on that side,
you know that kind of thing. It really knows his stuff.
And the other interesting part about him is if you're
looking for a farm, he's done it, and he's trained.

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He's got to light the horse license in every eleven states.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
I think.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
So he's real familiar with all this stuff. And whether
you bought a cattle farm and you're putting it in throwbreads,
or you buy it celebrated, you want to redo it. However,
he knows what to do because he's done it. And
if you ain't done it, you just don't know it.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
What they're running the stakes race? Maybe today that Virginia
are over hurdles going two and a quarter miles in
the head a horse entered, didn't they.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Is that right? Yeah, I'm surprised it's not riden it.
I'm surprised to Yeah, that means he's crazy. Question. No,
he really knows it. Well, he bought how many acres
behind the training center.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
That's where he Yeah, that's where he trains them.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
So, I mean he knows both sides of the horse business.
He knows the landside, and he knows.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
A level pony club that's where Olympic riders come from.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
He even knows how to put a barn together.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Put hey in it, No, I can't where to put it.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
And don't put the brood mares right next to the teaser.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
You know that kind of idiots.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
Okay, So, and he knows all about water and sanitation.
And then I mean it's super to work with somebody
like that because he and he's a good guy.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Whoops, and he's got he stays in line because his
wife works farm. Yeah, there you go. That's where again
they work together.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
Maybe he works for her and there yeah right probably, yeah,
there you go.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
I can relate to that anyway. Her soul imagination, Oh yeah,
the imagination. Anyway. They're great people, that's what we're trying
to tell you. And I trust him with my last dollar.
And here's his sale numbers. Is he'll sale number. It's
an eight five nine umber sixty year eight eighty thirty nine.

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Go to his website Legs horse Farms dot com.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
Now back to the Thoroughbred Training Center and Ursa Ellis.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
You know he'll don't you. I don't think we've ever met,
Is that right? Well he's missing. He's an awful good guy.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
I wanted to ask him.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Can I ask you those? Okay, we bought a couple
of those.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
My race horses. You know they make a fun president. Yeah,
And the one is supposed to be getting ready to
go back and although he wanted his first start and
nice source, but he got anyway. The other one is
sent somewhere to be a jumper or.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Something like that.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
That one they said got a little funny acting. Now
what they said was it had something kind of worm
that caused EPM.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Is that right?

Speaker 4 (58:42):
The the EPM is equal on protozole my alone cephalop
so it's a protozoa. So it's it's a microscopic organs.
It's not a bacterium, you know, it's a it's a
little bit higher up than a bacterium. The only worm
I know that you can do it is and goats

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and lamas get this. And there's been some thought that
maybe horses that can get this thing. But white tailed
deer have a worm that lives in the meninges, which
is the covering of the spoel cord, and it's that
worm will go through them, but it doesn't cause any
neurologic signs. But if it gets into goats, they used

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to work on a lot of goats, believe or not.
Instead back in the gold days, that they could pick
up a deer in the pasture, they pick up that
worm and so it would more or less get lost
because it wasn't in the right animal, and it can
go through the spoel cord. So and lamas get that too.
But that's the only and there's and I think they

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have found.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
That in some horses.

Speaker 4 (59:50):
It's pretty rare, but that's the only one I know,
And I guess potentially there are some some big worms
called strange isles, and they they migrate through that dominald
cavity of a horse, but they occasionally will go somewhere weird.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
See, I never heard of many of it before I
wanted to.

Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
But a worm, that's the only worm I really know of.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Yeah, that's wild, that's weird.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
That's one of the reasons you can't have a pet
raccoon unless you de warm it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
Yes, raccoons also now this really happens. There's there's a
couple of people here to die from these That raccoons
have a round worm and and so you know that rack.
That round worm will mature and size that raccoon. Okay,
but if if you get if you have a pet raccoon,
and well you get rabies from them too.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
But if you don't, if you don't get verbal, no,
not anymore, that will migrate.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
You gotta get to the top of the hour here.
Now there were worm and everything.

Speaker 4 (01:00:52):
Now you're throwing your pet raccoon out the back.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Door, right, you know, last last said the demn All
one hundreds down out of del Mar included turks stakes
through one by Dreaming of Valleys a three old two
year old Philly. She's by Upstar read by Windstar Farm
and three star Streaming of a Valley one a maiden
especial at law about four and a quarter lengths run
out of the money in the grade three surrendial of

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States of del Mark. The official charter of the race
noted that she hated the kickbacks, so they rent around
the grass for a wind and last third of stakes.
You can add Dreaming of Valley's name to the long
and going list of stakes winners side by Upstar, a
list which already includes the likes of XANDN, a Grade
one stakes winner of two million, two hundred thousand and

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one are placed in eleven stakes among the ten of
them graded, including the Grade one Bluegrass, the Great one
Kentucky Derby, the Grade one Metropolitan, the Grade one with Me,
Grade one Penn Derby, and the Grade one Travers. Other
graded States winners by upset includes the likes of Trademark,
a Graded States winner over a million, one hundred and

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eighty seven thousand, multiple Greatest Stakes winner Kathleen O Graded
States Win, a prerequisite Raded States win, a massquarade Raded
Gates States winner. Finally, finally is one of the Grade
three Delaware Oaks and Virginia Oaks. This year, twenty two
States winn of thirty six States horses. As a reminder
of start, won a place in ten States nine graded

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sixth Grade one earned a million, seven hundred and thirty
two thousand, seven hundred eighty dollars, and he's by flatterer
top young son of APND. Take a good look at
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good that you're looking at a runner up. Start stands
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the website is aired restorod dot com. Well, the Kentucky
Handicapper Sheet is available right now. This course published by
Bloodstock Research Information Services. And you didn't pick it up
at it the redmouth arbetter yet? Go to bristnet dot
com and pick one up there. Now we normally have

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James Keully on, but I'm pretty sure he's down at Churchill.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
Yeah, so he may have called in with a couple of.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
Horses to bet on. He's a great handicapper. I'd like
to have him a live because he can you know,
he can tell you this horse Inductor at the quarter
pole in the nineteen thirty eight Derby or something, you know,
I mean it all? Yeah, yeah, So bowl, where are
we standing with James today? Hey? Bow are you with me? Yes, sir? Yeah?

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Have you got anything from James today? No picks from James.
Never pick from Dames now. But we're still going.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
Hey, we still have an hour to go.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
He's normally he normally calls right at the right on
the button though. But yeah, you know, bust of Research
Information Services is everybody will owned by Churchill Down and
that's who James works for. And it's a it's a
great organization. We couldn't do this radio show without it.
And that's the flat truth.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
And they.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
They get so much information on that, I know, it's crazy. Yeah,
it's like an encyclopedia. Every every every day, I go
through the race results and uh to get get them
nationwide and you can get them from free from Bloodstot

(01:04:34):
Research Services and then I put my pedigrees and they
give you the official charge like they used to print
in the Daily Racing Form and they don't do anymore.
But I don't know how they come up with it,
but they've got it and I love it. And I've
got a bunch of them over here, previous stakes winners
and stakes winner from last week and jusus the whole

(01:04:57):
passle of them. So we're going to be doing that
pretty soon. But the best way to get in touch
with them is just just go to brittnet dot com.
You can't go wrong. And that American Produce Records they
put out, They've got the pedigrees of over a million
marris and every floor they produced worldwide. It's a wonderful
thing right right at your fingertips, and all the sires

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uh you could type in the stallion's name and for
to get his produce record and they will give you
a list of every everything that they desired, that one
are placed in stakes and what stakes they work. So
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Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
Now back to the Thoroughbred Training Center and Ursa ellis
all right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
And you know, I'll tell you what else is going
on this year. I was riding into town, I don't know,
several weeks ago, and I noticed, you know, everybody pretty
much hate at the same time, because everything kind of
gets to the same alby Jess and I looked and
I saw two or three people putting up hay and

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that stuff was brown as it could be, I mean
in brown, and yeah, you know it's not it's the drought.
And I thought, you know, that's supposed to be green
and we're supposed to get yet another cutting, but we're
not gonna get it.

Speaker 4 (01:06:51):
I know at old friends in the grass that there's
a pretty decent shape.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
Yeah, because as you.

Speaker 4 (01:06:59):
Talk to folks UK, if you have crab grass, your
pastures pretty nutritious for your horses. And so I think
we have some crab grass out there, which actually kind
of helps us because it's a little tougher. But you know,
the pastors out there weren't they weren't bad, but everything
just needs rain so badly.

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
Yeah, well it's the you better stuck up pay as
quick as you can. Now what kind of hay is
that going to turn out to be? This brown?

Speaker 4 (01:07:24):
Yeah, because it's you know, the greener it is, the
more nutrition and it has, and the stress grass doesn't
grow as well, because you know, I noticed even even
the fescue was kind of behind it. One of the
things everybody knows the infected rescue the fungus in their
affects mares and affects their milk, and but that that

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fungus makes the fescue more drought resistant. But I noticed
even the rescue looked poor. Yeah, and it doesn't like heat,
but still it's pretty tough grass outside. We got leaves
off the trees, you know, I noticed that too, So
it's adult. There's some cypress trees. That's so where we're staying.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
Then they've dropped all their needles.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
Is that right? Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
You know it's just maybe a lot of us.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
Toes get the hose out. And I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
Where we were driving. We're hot.

Speaker 4 (01:08:25):
It's always hot, terrible hot down there right now BNS
Kentucky's more dry than it is even down south.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
Well, like we've got pine back here, and I never
take the needles out from when they fall on the
end pine. All these trees out here got a great
big bunch of bedding from they're thirty four years old, and.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
That stuffed all this stuff. Yeah, you tell you how
long we lived here.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Yeah, and that's how old. Some of these trees are
forty years old. But I don't you know that stuff
that falls under there stays there.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
And it just makes a good pad. So you know,
you all were horses now the first time, and I
don't know how many Yeah that years now, I go
go back to the sixties. I guess I got my first.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
Horse anything, isn't that?

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Yeah, you know both of ours died.

Speaker 4 (01:09:27):
Yes, So you told me I didn't know that I
had lost your second one. Yeah, you didn't know we
lost it? Aunt, he told me, I didn't You told
me I don't heard that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
Yeah. I talked to many when we first reason we
got this horse's a friend about Francis rail a hand.

Speaker 4 (01:09:44):
You know, Francis, I think I do.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
I'm appreciate a beautiful girl. You could talk to you
into anything. Did talk to talk me into going down
to get He called us and said the there's a
horse to a class horse down here that they don't
put down. Somebody's got to save it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
Kind of killer.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
Yeah, he's going to the killers. So we went down
and got him and he was all crippled up.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
Was a mes and that that was the size of
yeah anyway, I mean seriously, he it was three legged horse.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
So we went down and picked him up and everything.
First thing we had to do was cut him. He
came off of it, He came off the trailer and everything.
He was bold. Yeah, doctors. We gave him an attitude
adjustment and he settled down and it took us a
long time to get him.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
Oh, forever.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
Yeah, he was.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
He stalled for months. He came on and then we
put him out forever in the round pans.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
And small we had out there teaser, and then it
was a.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
Good year or two before he really got around it
all and then just got sound as a dollar.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
He properly could have put it back and train him.
But I told Francis. I told Francis at the time
that Francis, you're in my wheel as soon as as
soon as this horse I die soon if I die,
this horse is coming to you. And she says, we'll

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stay healthy anyway. How many people. So the horse that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
Died, we had him for about twenty years.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
Really, So I call Francis, I said, Francis, you're off
of hook. He beat me to it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
He was beautiful, he was gorgeous.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
Didn't look what was he? You seen him twice of me? Yeah, yeah,
and you know he didn't look at all at his age.
And Jackie was out there feeding peppermints the day before,
two days before he died. They found him dead out there.
They did, they did, But you were going to take
a look at and see what it was. Yeah, I'm

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never going to see if it wasn't just to see
hard to take. I don't guess. It doesn't make any difference.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
You know, one minute he's there and next minute it's down.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
But I had to anything Francis and tell her she
was off the hook.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
He turned out to be okay. But you know, it's
interesting one whoever had him before us hit him around
the head till the day he died. Literally, if you,
I don't know if you made it real quick.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
You remember that you were trying to give him a
shot out. That was that one. Yeah, he drove me
on my behind for how long it took? It took
me half an hour to get up. I had to
quarrel over the defence or pull myself up. There's neither one.
We all were going to help me.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
Oh I remember that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
I remember, well, I'm glad I was close to the fence. Anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
It's the other one that died just what a month before.
I wonder if he wasn't real sad and sorry and down.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
That the key there on the Sunday before he died,
Oh yeah, Saturday before he had a cook. He had company.
He like his company. They put another.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
Function with him, you know, the other horse like the cookies.
He didn't like those cookies like peppermint stupid cooking. Give
to him, so I did, and then he got the peppermints.
What an apple?

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
Yeah, yeah, I think he got the apple. But they're
the horse that was in there that they when he died.
He was a fair kind of racehorse, you know that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
He had been at old Friends for about seven years
or something.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
The other horse, yeah, yeah, and that he was turned
out with and they wrote a big story about him,
and they didn't mention who's the gin, Probably because of
his name. I named him Major, after my grandfather's horse.
But anyway, he was a good race horse. He was

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about gold for Gin. He sold for ninety six thousand
dollars as a year in here Kingan, which was pretty
damn high for goal for Gin because he didn't sign
much of anything.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
And you know, twenty years ago, that was more money Thane.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
And he was a good allowance winner in New York.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
And yeah, he was twenty eight years reasonably.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
One of the reasons we went to get him. I
looked up pulled his past performances, you know, and it
was these nice races and scantered through them all. He
would mentioned gamely you know, close gamely one of the
tight finish and one with a game effort or something
like that. He needed a shot, so it weren't all

(01:15:14):
Francis ratherhand beauty. They talked me into it. Oh, you
could have talked in anyway until we had got him. Yeah,
and I haven't been years since. Its first time in
years and years we haven't had a horse.

Speaker 4 (01:15:35):
So how is it?

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
Well, we know about your house anything horse and at
going on New Mississippi States.

Speaker 4 (01:15:45):
I think what we've got, we've we've got let's see
what do we do. We're we've got a few research
projects going on. Well, i'll tell you the big thing
that that is just starting it as a lady who
had had three horses die from laminitis, and Nancy Link

(01:16:08):
and I think she lives in Louisiana. She's donated I'm
pretty sure this is right, number sixty four million dollars
to the Vet school and they're gonna build a research
not bet yielding. Yeah, and they're gonna put her name
on us, so how bad they're gonna have a on
it for her. They've hired a couple of people and

(01:16:31):
it's just just gonna work on lamonitis.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
And that's so.

Speaker 4 (01:16:36):
I think once all that gets going, you know, hopefully
a lot of really cool stuff will come.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
They've hired there's really good people.

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
That's necessary, really smart people. Yeah, that's the plank.

Speaker 4 (01:16:48):
So that's I think they're gonna start trying to build
that next year, and so hopefully we'll be able to
crank out some maybe help people figure out laminitis, because
we were talking about that at work. You know, it
sure seems like we used to lose more horses to
founder than we do now, and I don't we really

(01:17:10):
don't have anything all that new. I don't know if
we've just gotten better at not to pick on the
horse's temperament.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
If you can kick your weight off of it, then
I think so. And you know they had a horse
named us one time that he was in the swing
for over six weeks, and.

Speaker 4 (01:17:28):
You know he was slinging hard on a horse sometimes.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
Well we ever had was a.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
Pony that Betsy had, and you know he'd eat anything anywhere, anytime.
And is that the one we tied up in the
creek out at homely?

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
Oh yeah, well she never rode him or anything. Ye
whose pony was that? Anyway? So we got somebody we
got suckered into.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
The I don't remember much.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
We tied him up and well there was a quick
going through there and it was cool. Yeah, water tied
him up, our head, we lift them. We leave him
out there in you know, two or three hours at
a time.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
They could drink, but he couldn't eat.

Speaker 4 (01:18:13):
Happen, and see, we figured that's what we do now,
I mean they figured that out the way. The reason
that worked was that's what we'll do.

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
Is they have these boots.

Speaker 4 (01:18:24):
I use these I like these really high soaken boots,
but they're pretty heavy duty plastics, so you can tape
them around the type and tape on.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
But their knee or those IV bags probably the hospital seen.

Speaker 4 (01:18:36):
Those five liters IV bags. They'll work also, and we'll
put ice in them.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:18:41):
But the reason that works is because you know, the
lamina kind of built like a feather, and so when
they get inflammation, it can trigger those enzymes to break
that down. When that feather kind of breaks, then the
coffin bone can drop. But those enzymes don't work when
it's cold.

Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
They work body.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
Temperature better, ice work, songs just about it.

Speaker 4 (01:19:04):
I knew that all your had to do is ask me.
So it's really it's been forty years ago to this
heaven because it's it's funny to me, Like I tell
students that, I said, you know, we're doing what you know,
Like if you go to Kentucky, people will tell you
about tying horses and creeks and nobody knew why. But
they were doing the right thing, but nobody knew why.

(01:19:24):
And so now here we are, you know, however, many
years later, and and we have one come in that
you worry about for their feet knights, but you do
have to go pretty high.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
You can't.

Speaker 4 (01:19:36):
You have to have you have to at least be
that that like those five of their bags go about
mid cannon bone. Anyway, you have to go high enough
to get that whole foot cold. And when they they've
done some really interesting experiments where they'll put little uh
thermacuples like little thermostats and their hoof with needles and
they can measure how cool it is and show that

(01:19:58):
that works. So we're right back where you were, ahead
of your time, head right time.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
Oh yeah, they do is ask.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
Some farm around here at that time had taken that
super heavy duty plastic in a stall and put it
around about two feet foot and a half. I and
flooded it and put them in there. But I don't
think that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
Worked very long because it's the water would get tipped.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
Yeah, it was just not as efficient as I.

Speaker 2 (01:20:33):
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I'll talk a little bit about our friends at Hope
Well Insurance Company in Paris, Kentucky. And when we moved
to Boerbon County, we needed an insurance, you know, for everything,
and everybody said go to Hope Well, and so everybody
did so. Also had to talk with Ted McClean and

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we've been with him embers since. In my lord, how
many years has that been? Thirty five, forty years ago?

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
I guess ah, long time.

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
And anyway, they well, we wouldn't be more satisfied. They
do a really good job. It's a wonderful hometown feeling.
And what they do. They don't work for a big,
mega insurance company. They work for you and they use

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an carefully selected group of financially sound, reputable companies. Now
that's very clever, so they can shop around and come
up with the best coverage at the best price. So
how that works. That's very good because you're just not
already pre priced. Folks who Hope will give you a

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no cost, no obligation review in comparison to what you've
got now. No. Hope Well was established in Paris nineteen
fifty five to full service insurance agents to give them
a call ninety eight seven two three four seven then

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and you will not get a machine. You will get
a person who says, hope, well, are better yet. Stuff
by the office is a twenty Main Street and terrace.
They have a parking lot and back. They're really nice
people and they'll do a great job for you.

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
Now back to the Thoroughbred Training Center and ursa ellis.

Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
Okay, well, well we got to take care of our
good friends. Over to Kentucky Third Bed Owners and Breed Association.
He's the Kentucky bread Steaks winners from the last week
or so. And that's also helps out well. And that
is in the KTA. That's Chauncy Marsh. There was a
Grade one two million dollars Franklin Simpson Steaks of Kentucky

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Downs went to Trouble Shooting. Trouble Shooting is a Colt by,
not this time britten by Donomyer Farm. The Grade one
three hundredown dollar del Mar for Tuity Brandt won that,
but Runner bread by p T K l LC. Not
the letters there. The Grade one three hundred found dollar

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del Mar Debutante Bottle of Rouge won that by Vino
Russell over Spendthrift Farm read by Catherine Maybe. The Grade
two twenty five hundred dollars Kentucky Turf Invitational Stakes of
Kentucky Downs. The Old Crazy Bone one That Bread by
Dina Springs, and the Grade two to two hundred foun

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Out of Music City Stakes Sees So Spicy by Batolia's
Spendthrift read by Bill Hellidbrot and Kareeine Helli Brock. The
Grade three two million, five hundred thousand dollars Fan Due
Invitational Epic Ride by Blame Over Spend Thrifts read by
Fred Hirtriche and Nabor of Irish. The Grade three Ladies

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May Ladies Marathon International at Kentucky Downs went to Cellar
five Telephive by Justified Bread by Windstar Farm. My Grade
three two million dollar Dueling Ground Oaks Invitational Want to
See On by Twirling Candy bread by My Old Home Place, Dixiana.

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The Grade three five hundred pound dollars Old Dominion Derby
at Colonial Downs World Beater one that by Oscar Performance
Bread by Doctor John Chandler. Let's see here the two
hundred thousand dollars Where in hell is it? Ladies Marathon
Invitational Grade three at Kentucky Downs. Want to stell a

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five that's a four year old Phillip Justify over Ashwood
Stud bred by Windstar Farm. The one hundred pound dollars
del Mar Juvenal Phillies Turf Stakes, Dreaming of Alley's won
that by Upstart bred by Windstar Farm. Upstart at Airdridge stud.
The f one hundred and fifty pound dollars the Hallsteaks

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and Colonel Downs went to Doncho. That's a four year
old son of Motown over the Ashal Ashley stood read
by Michelle Lovell. No, she trained it susan young bride. Sorry,
sorry about the Susan. A couple of ladies. So one
million dollar juvene of Miles Staks of Kentucky Down Street

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Breast one that excuse me, Street Beast by Street Sense
bed by sunny Brook Stables. Man wandered there Kentucky Down
is a one million dollar untappable States of Kentucky Downs
Quiet Street by Street Boss read by the Dolphin Who.

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Two million dollar gun Runner Steaks at Kentucky Downs. Plans
of one that Caravagia over the Sour Red by Frank
Garrison and Nato. The one hundred thousand dollars del Mark
Juvenile Phillips Turf dreaming of Alley's one there that they
give you. That same horse won at both times. Upstart

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the don't do that to me. Your two hundred and
fifty found dollar Old Dominion Oaks were as catch can
by another motown bred by Lower and Nichols. It's a
Florida bread, but to throw it in because Docs aren't
over here and he's got a motown. One hundred and
fifty dollars. The Hall Steaks by Colonel Downs went to

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Doncho another mold town. This bread by Susan Young. Let's
see the Kitten's Young Joey Stakes Kittens Joey Colonel Downs
Coslo bred by Diamond Thirdbreds and Investments. The one hundred
and fifty down dollar Colonial Cup of Colonial Downs Safe
Trip Home by more than Ready Jack Swain. The breeder

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one hundred and twenty five found out of Rosie Stakes
in Colonel Downs Royal Testament by Midshipman by Colonel stud
The two hundred fIF found out of super derby instant replay.
This is Louisiana Downs read by Mary and Gary West.
Staples is by Maximum Security who finished first in the

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Kentucky Derby and now stands over at Ashford stood the two.
Well here here's that a horse coming right back and
win the Northern Lights future feturity Longer the Lights Fraturity
at Canterbury. How about that kurt by Motown read by

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Sampson Family Real Estate Holdings. The Got Skin Forturity at
m O Downs. A Robin Racer one Night by connect
read by Brookstone Farm and Lee Mount Barrett. The Juvenile
Philly States at Emo Downs, The Witch enjoy by Midnight

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read by a very educated Horses read by the University
of Kentucky.

Speaker 1 (01:30:02):
That's the one.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
What's the one?

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
Another by the University of Kentucky.

Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
Yeah, em Down. They they've done. They've read others. That's
the old main Chaine farm over on Newtown Pike. Yes,
this stats stakes at Emboldown's went to a Lohr Breeze
by the Factor bred by Gary Mery West Stables. Again
they breathed a whole lot of bunch of uh they've

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raised over at del Ridge. The bison trides mile at Prairimeters.
It's all right by Cairol Prince at Cairo Prince at
Erdrister disn't bred by the Massa Corporation at Albert Kirpy.
The Alba Quirpy discf went to rose By Hard Spun

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bred by Joe Peacock Junior on Tuesday, the three hundred
down out of Prince of Wales Steaks. That's the second
running of the Canadian Triple Cram run.

Speaker 1 (01:31:08):
Away again wanted by Hertspun bread by.

Speaker 2 (01:31:11):
A Diner Springs. Ooh, I think I was gonna get.

Speaker 1 (01:31:15):
You didn't show up? Huh, I said the Prince didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:31:20):
Show up right out of the money. I guess it
could be a Grade one winter In Grade one sire,
leading sire of two year olds dialed in is the
old package. He won a Grade one Florida Derby began
instead career as in the nation's number one wine freshman sire.
He has signed a host of six winners, among them

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defunded a multiple Grade one steak twin over a million,
seven hundred and eighty seven thousand two per stock, a
Grade one stix winer of a million, two hundred and
ninety seven thousand, got a number of Grade one six
one of eight hundred and sixteen thousand, plus Superior States
winner's gunna error. He earned five million, five hundred sixty
one thousand. We're placings in the Grade one Breeders' Cup

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Classing Grade one, Travels Grade one, Woodod Grade one, Package
of Sord Cup Invitation, Grade one Florida Derby Grade one
to BUI World Cup. Then they're graded six winners, such
as is local part the one over six hundred and
seventy five thousand and greatest Stax winner mister Waller earn
of a million, one hundred and eighty two thousand and
four or ninety thirty dollars. Then there is the tabulator,

(01:32:24):
a graded Stax winner at Churchill Down what you're talking about,
the graded sex winner in New York, one smooth operator,
the greatest six hundred in Australia, the diasium. The dial
ins win wherever they're as to run. They went on dirt,
they went on grass, they went on artificial. They win
as two years. They win with maturity. They went going

(01:32:45):
short and the wind going long. Diald In is by
mind Shaft, a successful son of ap and d out
of the grade two place Miss Doolittle, but the great Stormcap.
So whenever you see a dial In and the sales
chances are pretty good you're looking a runner he stands
at Darby Dan. This called Stuart Fitzgibbon or Jake Warden.

(01:33:05):
A call at A five nine two five four forty four,
and be sure to ask about the three young Grade
one winners that stood their first seasons there in twenty
twenty five. And take a good look at the website,
which is Darby Dan dot com. Well, it took me
forever to write this one. This is a McCauley d

(01:33:26):
I know it's gonna run those three pages, and.

Speaker 1 (01:33:28):
I made the types that real.

Speaker 2 (01:33:30):
I'm going to eleven font I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:33:32):
Going to exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:33:34):
I expect to be paid more for this then, Okay,
so just going I don't know how much. I've got
twenty five minutes to finish the show, so I better
get started with this commercial. I want to take a drink.

Speaker 1 (01:33:46):
Of col A pain in the you know what the
type that I'll tell you you want to try, right, steaks,
winner after steaks, winner after steak.

Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
You know, horses raised on the call of fees won
nine steaks from the last week, nine of them. For
God's sake, the Grade one two million dollar Franklin Simpsons
States at Kentucky Downs was won by Troubleshooting read by
Donald Ware Farm. The winner also the Dade Park States
at Ellis Park. He's earned a million, three hundred ninety

(01:34:19):
five thousand, six hundred and fifty six dollars. Finishing third
in that race was Governor Sam, a Graded States winner
of seven hundred and eighty seven thousand, six hundred ninety
eight dollars read by Stone Rigs Farm. The Grade two
two thousand, five hundred dollars Kentucky Club Invitation won to
Old Crazy Bone read by Alina Springs. He has earned

(01:34:39):
a million, seven hundred and seventy nine thousand, two hundred
and fifty four dollars. Second was Towny Point the Greatest
Stakes winner of two million, one thousand and sixty two
dollars read by WinStar Farm. The Grade three two million,
five hundred thousand dollars Fan Dual Invitational at Kentucky Down's
winner was Epic Ride read by Fred Hertred's third mistakes

(01:35:02):
win are also a turf way. He has won a million,
nine hundred and twenty six eight hundred and thirty nine dollars.
The Grade three two million dollar Ladies Marathon Invitational in
Kentucky Downs went to Stellifi bread by Windstar Farm. She's
won four in a row and a million, four hundred
and forty two thousand, six hundred and four dollars. The

(01:35:22):
one hundred thousand dollars del Mar juven Phillips Turk Stakes
was won by Dreaming Alleys, also read by Windstar Farm.
She's won two of the three starts. These two hundred
and fifty nine thousand dollars Super Derby at Louisiana Downs
went to Instant Replay. Went also the Texas Derby at
Lone Star and the bath House Road Stakes at Oaklhohm
and over six hundred and thirty eight thousand. He was

(01:35:44):
bred by Gary and Mary West and raised the Dale
Ridge Farm third one to Fountain Lake Bread by Stone
Rings Farm. The West also bread Aloha breed one of
the Distaff stakes at Amroll Downs and twelve O or
nineteen stars of the Emerald Down's The Juvenile Philly Stations
winner went to bow It's enjoy read by the University

(01:36:05):
of Kentucky. He's won three of a four starts. Tuesday,
the three hundred found out of Prince of Wales Station
Ford Area. That's the second leg of Canada's Triple gram
went to run away again. Read by Dina Springs for
more on the products of McCauley Feed's called Doctor John loeu,
Amy Parker and Jenny marsh a five nine eight seven

(01:36:27):
three thirty three thirty three visit to office at one
eleven Broad Wind for sales. Checked the website at McCauley
feeds dot com and McCauley feeds It's all about the horse.

Speaker 3 (01:36:41):
Now back to the Thoroughbred Training Center and ursul Ellis.

Speaker 2 (01:36:46):
Took me, took me forever.

Speaker 1 (01:36:48):
He didn't even stutter.

Speaker 2 (01:36:50):
Didn't it did not? Did I stutter? Who was said that?

Speaker 1 (01:36:58):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:36:59):
Anyways? Oh well, okay. I wish that he could just
win three or four. You know, I could write a
nice commercial. He's fussed about that all week. Every day every.

Speaker 1 (01:37:15):
Mind gets something, checks everything of one.

Speaker 2 (01:37:20):
I have to call. I check in with John Lou
over there. And John, you know John, the perfect guy.
You a nice guy.

Speaker 1 (01:37:28):
He's got a doctorate in doctor lou in this stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
I guess there's equine feeds.

Speaker 1 (01:37:37):
And stuff or he's in that kind of chemistry.

Speaker 2 (01:37:41):
Really nice, really nice guy. But I'll call him every
Tuesday and we get together and you know, and if
I go ahead and write it, you know, like on Wednesday,
when I normally send her his course out. We send
him for you know, our clients to read him and

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make sure I haven't screwed up, which happens frequently. And anyway,
I get it over and everything ready to go, and
he call up with this one out and I got
to tear it all down and to ride it again. See,
so I told him, finally, John, I won't talk to you.
We're gonna put our heads together on Tuesday. You keep

(01:38:24):
track of it. I won't wait till Friday to write
this thing, and I'm we'll get together on it. So
that's how we do it now, and it works that way.

Speaker 1 (01:38:34):
Even he has to ride with Woodford Hounds.

Speaker 2 (01:38:38):
On occasion he kept flat ride.

Speaker 1 (01:38:41):
He had a horse that was dancing on his hind
legs and he didn't move.

Speaker 4 (01:38:46):
It was beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:38:47):
I mean, you know, the horse finally went down and
went on, but whoa, he really stuck. It was great.

Speaker 2 (01:38:58):
Well he's a nice guy and they're nice full over
there and obviously a good problem. Yeah, obvious. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:39:06):
Years ago there was this woman that was Adele David.
She was the first one to come out and say
this business of people eating in this country, their diets
think this was you know, And she went on and on.
She said they don't teach it in medical school, but

(01:39:27):
they teach it in that school. She said to veterinarians
the way more about food and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:39:35):
I thought that was interesting. Okay, I want to read
that wasn't that interesting. I want to read something that
Joe Palmer just would change the place. But let me
get this out of the way. First. Is to spend thrill.
They they've got a bunch of great young students over there.
You know, it's been through, it's been throught form.

Speaker 1 (01:39:57):
Oh couldn't there yet?

Speaker 2 (01:39:59):
Oh okay, that's my hearing aids. Yeah, you were lack
of them, and mine mine is so loud. You know,
I think I'm afraid to speak like I want to
because I wake up the neighbors. Because now, anyway, last
weekend at del Mar, the Grade one three million dollar

(01:40:21):
del Mar Dementane Steaks was won by Bottle of Aruge,
A two year old Philly by Vino Rosso, and the
Grade two Music City States but Kentucky downs once. So
she's so spicy. A three ye old Philly by my
Tolli by l Ruines Greening second and the first start
and since one back to back outings of del Mar
one hundred found out a graduate of the Kingan Scepti Mersel,

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She's already earned two hundred and forty thousand Grade one
Sir Vino Russo has sired twenty seven Stax sources in
his first three crops. He won the Grade one Breeders'
Cup Classic and four point eight million dollars. He's by
He is Curling's most accomplished son. Had stood and he
stands has spent farm. So there's Mattoli, one of the

(01:41:02):
Grade one breeders of Sprint, the four Grade one States
and the Clips Award and three million, one hundred and
four thousand dollars. His brilliant daughter, She's So Spicy, a
two hundred thound dollars grater of the Phasing Kentucky phaseing Tipton,
Kentucky Sales, won her career debut at gold Stream by
sixteen and a quarter links to won the Limestone Stakes

(01:41:24):
at Kingdon, the Grade three Mansales States at Churchill, and
the Grade two Music City at Kentucky Downs and over
a million, five hundred and seventy thousand dollars. He's one
of fourteen stakes winners twenty five steak sources from the
first three cops by Mottoli, among them three graded stakes
winners Helena's forty at Booth and Vb's Dream. He was

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the champion freshman side of his year. Standing Leading sires
is a tradition to hear at spends Drift Farm, the
Breeders Farm as we speak, the number one general sire
in the michig number one first crop SI you're upon
number one second clop Sifacoma and number one third clops
Omahall Beach all standard spensery flop from more on expensive

(01:42:08):
stays called Dazah, Bryan or Mark or David to day
five nine, two nine, four, usual thirty in the website
spendry flop dot com, Dali Van Service, Sally Van Service.

Speaker 1 (01:42:22):
Point them out when you go out there.

Speaker 2 (01:42:23):
With those kids, can see me, all of them. I
showed them.

Speaker 4 (01:42:26):
We were driving down the road and two of them
went by, and I said, they get a few places
you see commercial.

Speaker 1 (01:42:33):
Yeah, they really are. You know, it's I don't know
if it's color, whatever it is. Those fans look brand
new all the time. They really do. They do a
heck of a job on their equipment. They've been in
business for sixty or something years, can you imagine, and

(01:42:53):
during that time many of the greatest runners ever step
on a racetrack have gone by way of Sally And
I saw a picture of Justify getting off of a
Sally Van. I think it was at Churchill. So they're in,
they're in beautiful shape, and they're.

Speaker 2 (01:43:10):
All over the place.

Speaker 1 (01:43:11):
They're great. Single most important safety factors they're drivers. Their
drivers are obviously good drivers, but they're experienced horsemen. And
that's how you have to have it. Think about that
next time you ship your horse across the county or
the country or out to the sales, you load your
horse into a Sally Van, you know you've got one

(01:43:36):
of the best and safest ways to go. And nicolepe
Wright's got a little stand out there for people that
you know, buy something and you just walk over there.

Speaker 2 (01:43:47):
And they'll ship them home for you.

Speaker 1 (01:43:49):
So anyway, that's why for more than half a century
Sally Van's out two five five ninety four oh six safest.
He didn't win her circle.

Speaker 2 (01:44:01):
All right, Well, you know we all have our favorite horses,
and one of mine, of course, was mister Mima. I
was about ten years old. Mister Mama was the same
coppas manor Or by the way, and full in nineteen seventeen.

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And she was a champion too, you old Philly, and
she had was a Dixianna brews Mare. I grew up
on Dick Sanna and she got to be old and everything,
and mister Fisher said she looked terrible. And mister Fisher says,
told my dad, who was managing places, I think we'd

(01:44:42):
better put her down, and then says okay, But then
didn't he hit her in another barn, you know, over there.
And it was my job take care of her. I
was about ten years old at that time, you know.
I told her she was one of my favorites. And
she lived about six or seven months after I started

(01:45:05):
taking care of her. Another one is I grew up
with Man of War for crying out. Yeah, he was
another one. And then there was a horse named bern
Burgh from Australia who was one of my favorites. I
had gone to a movie at the old at the
Kentucky Theater downtown and at that time they would run

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not only cartoons, but they would run sometimes they would
run a short yeah film, you know, And they had
a short film on there on a horse named bern Burgh,
and my god, he was fantastic and I fell in
love with Burnberg, trying to follow him and everything in it.
But he ended up with Spencer Farmers, a stud or.

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So this is let me read this. I got about
ten minutes to do that. In Australia factor, everybody goes
to the races, said the visit to her to our
shores and they drink. Those are the two principal pastimes. Well,
it seems that the Australians were well grounded and the fundamentals.
With an encyclopedia to guide them, they could get could

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have fit amusements on which they had bestowed a greater accolade.
The Greeks did both around the funeral power of a Chiles.
There have been instances since. Oh yes, that is the
visitor and cricket. Once I went to a cricket match
at Sydney, fifty thousand people. Every ten minutes something happened.
I know it did because people fifty thousand, because fifty

(01:46:32):
thousand people do not yell at the same time by accident.
But I could never tell what the hell. It was
the visitor speaking between diligent applications into a bold of
a bull of oos, a bull of bays. I guess
it is with a high frequency of lobster. Claus was
Orlando A. Sleen Romano, Fadua, Verona, Vienna, London, Berlin, the Niece, Paris,

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New South Work and currently the Plaza Hotel. He had
become known to this continent recently because he had sold
the Australian champion Bernberg to Louis B. Mayor for reported
three hundred and sixteen thousand dollars. The price is not correct.
I do not know who it was because mister Romana

(01:47:19):
Sydney would not say, but it did say that's not right.
Mister Romana is an affable man and a wholesome gentleman
of fifty or sold with hair which with the tinest
incourtment would have been READI a mustache of minor dimensions
and a disposition to study America in the raw at
Santa Anitam, the Plaza, the Colony, and other other centers

(01:47:43):
of sociological inquiry. In nineteen forty five he bought Bernburg
at auction for a trifle more than seventy five hundred dollars.
The horse had been racing at Toowombaugh. I do not
pretend to know where Toowomba is, but it was somewhere
back back of beyond for Burnburg's first race there, and

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they did this thirty dollars. The horse for four years
was not permitted to race the major tracks because the
Queensland Turf Club would not accept his entry. Asked why
and mister Romano shrug to indicate that the ways of
the jockey clubs were inscrutable. But evidently the old QTc
was not satisfied about the horse's ownership, because after miss

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Romano bought him, there was no further difficulty. When I
bought him, everybody said Romano's crazy. Ever, it was just
about ready to buy him, but only something happened and
they didn't you know how it is. Burn Burg ran
fourth to begin with and then smashed through fifteen straight
and the doom Band Cup at one in three eight miles.

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He carried one hundred and fifty one pounds. Weights were
higher in Australia, but still he was given the second
horse thirty eight pounds. The third, twenty two October, he
ran for the Caulfield cup under one hundred and fifty
and ren fifth, giving him one or twenty four pounds.
The second horse thirty nine. In November, he had hooked
the crack Marre flight in the mcpennon stakes. When he

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broke down. There was a path to the infield, mister
Romto said, a sand pad. They put turf on top
of of. They put turf on top of horses would
and shine it so so they wouldn't shine it. Burnberg
hit a loose piece of turf and slip and hit
a broke of sesma bone with his hind foot. There

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was like a funeral around full of Flemington for a while.
Women were crying all over the place. There had been
earlier talk of racing this the horse here, and Louis B.
Mader had offered the use of the stables and training
facilities if the invasion came off. So when mister Romano
came over, he called that mister Mayer to thank him

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for this kindness to a stranger. The association lasted six
weeks and at the end of it mister Mahory had
bought Bernberg. I will get in trouble selling it, mister
Romano said, they will say he should have stayed in Australia.
But if he does as well as it stood as
he did on the track, what it will do for
Australian breeders. Our market is nothing like yours, because even

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the best races to none to have big persons. Over
here you run for fifty thousand dollars ever sagday. The
initial supposition has been that mister Rohmedy's chief claim to
fame was the ownership of Bernberg, considered the greatest horse
in Australia since far Land. But it developed that Australia
owes him a greater doubt debt. Excuse me. He opened

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the first nightclub there and about twenty five years ago.
It was startling to realize here we were twenty five
years ago, reveling in our comfortable speakeasies, while the Australian
had no place to lay his head after sundown. It
is gratifying to know that mister Robano has been real
ordered handsomely for his missionary work. He was born in

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Italy at Padua, but he did not hang around very long,
admiring the architecture of the Italian Renaissance. Eventually he got
to the Savoy in London, where he was associated with
Jean Cavallero, co owner of the colony here of sixty
on for sixty first Street. Australia, where he had become

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naturalized citizen, came next, and now he owns restaurants, hotels
and things, including a couple of promising tiles, Lady Edgex
and Crusoe. His business here is to study hotels and
nightclubs with a view to using his knowledge in Australia.
It sounds like fairly nice work. Mister Varano is going

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to have a pretty good time wherever he goes, because
the sources of his enjoyment are internal. He has, as
they say, going to and from in the world and
walked up and down in it, and he likes what
he finds. This is because it brings to his experiences
this a lot they restrained eagerness and an appetite for

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life and living. He liked London, he likes Sydney, He
likes sant Nato. He likes New York. He seemed particularly
put up partial to the bulls of Bays. He will
like Kentucky when he gets there with Burnberg. He likes
old things because they're old, and new things because they're new.

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He likes horses and food and people, cigars and conversation
and a pleasant jest over the table. But he didn't
like cricket anyway. That's the story about Burnberg. I went
to see him when he got here, by the way. Yeah,
and he did very well, but it was never real popular. Uh.
He signed a lot of nice stakes winners, O Burnburg Bershin.

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Bershine was a champions. We read Ms Mary Fisher h
at Dixana bread little priss to him three times they produced,
she produced three stage winners. That's who Alerican is.

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By Clark is right this to this day.

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A big picture over it wall over there that he
raised from he have, I got time. I guess I
have burn Burr and I mean Bersine and spider fence
were the same prop. Spider fence was a bully at
a matter hair and then it was persine and somebody

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came here from California. I forget your name now, but
they wanted to buy spider fence. And mister Hartin did
not know Trump was the trainer for Dixiana. He didn't
like Brossin, so he says, it's the package deal. Huh Okay,
So the man bought them both, took him back to California.
Bassine was a champion sprinter and the horse could not

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run me that Then they went on. Uh uh. The
next one was resolved. Resolved, was u? I remember him.
I was sewing Winter his first start down at at
Ghos Stream.

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I was.

Speaker 2 (01:54:15):
I was working for Hodgens at Ghos Stream at that time,
and he put him in and he won and paid
forty something dollars like that first start, and everybody were
all fans. The people that were working for Hodgens were
raising hell, why didn't you tell us? Why didn't tell us?

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And you know what that old son of a gun did?
He said, Well, I told Ursul I hadn't better penny
on him, and I just stood there like waiting for
somebody to shoot me. But didn't you know, but resolved
he so he sould resolved, and he wanted one of
the best printers uh uh in the Chicago and so

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so the horses he sold, the two of them, you know, Amerrik,
and he couldn't not only couldn't train him, he couldn't
get him on a racetrack. Good for him, so he said,
get rid of him. Dad liked him. So Dad took
him and took him down into Jessamine and nichols Field

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had a friend down there, and they turned him out
with three old work horses out there. Snow was flying
up there and everything, you know, and he took his
trailer up there to pick him up. This is this is.
He's been there for three or four months. And Dad
says he dropped the fan of the ram the ramp

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on that trailer and the old horse by tore down.
Getting out of there. They said, he there's no race
horses to beat the head out of it. Turned him
over to turn him over to that's it, mister Yeah.
Turned him over to to mister Pierrat, you know, and

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he was feeding peppermints and everything, and he got him
ready to race, you know, took him down the river
downs and he run three quarters of night and chains
down there. When as far as you could throw a
rock at that time, up in Chicago, they were they
had uh little stakes races, you know, fifty This is
back in the forty fifties, I guess it was anyway,

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but time gets away from it anyway. They uh, he
won three or four of those, you know, and came
back to Keenan and they put him in a nice
allounge race down here in the feature racing there was
Affiliates trained by mister Huntings. Well, she finished a bad second.

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Now not only did did Alaric and win? He said,
a new track circuit going six and a half. And
then they run him back in again and he met
dog Gun and Solution and the Solution was running Productionana
in a really tough race, and he beat them both.

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So they had dead and mister Peet and mister Jordan
who was the assistant manager there at Dick Canner, and
they owned him and they had more fun with that
old horse. Oh, I'm going to have to go here
not to talk about That's what I'm going to say

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about the Third Boy Training Center. By my watch, i've
got three almost a little it's about three minutes. Does
that sound right? Bo? Anyway a minute? Oh my god? Well,
the Third Training Center is a great trainer. You putting
me off, that's what you are. You put me off early,

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getting rid of me. The training center of courses if
you look for stalls and give them a pall at
eight five, nine, two nine three, eighteen fifty three and books,
they've got everything. They've got it's a great place to
train your horses. The tracks out there great, you know
you can. They got a mile track and a five

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eighth mile track, and got starting gage, some official Crocker
grass gallops you can graze your horses are. It's a
great place to train your horse. Great atmosphere, horses do
very well. So all right, well, I've been told by
the powers to be down at the station. I've got
a bay laugh. So thank you for listening, and we'll

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talk to you next week.