Horse Tales 10-4-25

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Speaker 3 (01:23):
The last Saturday, Santa Na the Grade three John C.
Harristakes was won by Innovative A three by Complexity. Innovative
broke a maiden going a mile and an eighth and
the Maiden Specialist SANTAO one going a mile on August nine,
and del Mar then came back from off the pains
to take the Grade three John C. Harristakes red in
Kentucky by Hartmut Amanchi and Soelisia Farm. She's a two

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hundred and thirty five other grantedate of the oldvs April
Sail by the way Uh Complexity side the winner of
the Futurity yesterday at Belmont Park one hundred and seventy
five found outar very historic race to two year olds
and it was won by Intricate steit Bread by Ben Henley,

(02:10):
Rebecca Henley and Jim Gray. Soho one had another one
in there for complexity. Well, he's already signed ten stakes winners.
I believe there was this eleventh yesterday plus seven others
that have placed in stakes. Black Forester has won the
Grade two Richmond in England, moe Plex, the Grade three
Sandford and Saratoga, the Grade three Hi Derby and two

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other states in New York placed in the Grade one
Champagne and earned over seven hundred and ninety thousand. Then
there's Kale's Angel who she won two stakes at Oaklahom
plus another at Turfray. Holygrove also won stakes at Turffray,
placed in the Grade three Miss Preakner Stakes, Tough Catch
one stakes at the Fairgrounds. Lula Lushka one of Florida

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Park states in New York Mensa one of the victorious
stakes at Woodbine. Complexity ranks among the leaders on the
second Charles Complexity won the Grade one Champagne as the
two year old course, one of the great two Kelsov
States in New York was a game second the Grade
one four goal. He's by the popular McLean's music, who

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stud for has come to forty thousand dollars. Is damn
his Grade two stakes win of Forest Music. Damn of
four stakes winners, all four of them greatest steaks winners.
Love which I had, which has been my mayor, because
I of the braider to a billy got anyway for
two crops of racing. Its complexity is already in the
Savath success stands over to ed Restud, which is a

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good thing. Inquiries to Shannon o'Kyle at eighty five nine
age seven, three seventy two seventy In the website is
drestood dot com.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
On the horse capital of the World, it's horse Tales
with Ursul Ellis. We'll talk about the horses, the people,
and the history of the thoroughbred industry. Hold away any
secretaries that what's the two and a half lays now
live from Kentucky's Bluegrass region. Here's Ursul.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
And live. But that can word right here, except we're over.
We are riding a smack and dam in the middle
of the blue Grass States in Bourbon County this morning,
and as we're doing the show from home, and John
Nicholson has joined us kindly.

Speaker 5 (04:34):
Good morning, everybody. Have to see a beautiful, beautiful morning,
the fogs just lifting orchous morning here in Bourbon County.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Jack had been last time he owned you were fussing
about all the geese. Jack has been fussing about geese
ever since.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
I know.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
I'm glad you're on the bandwagon. Jackie. We gotta we
gotta do something.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
That's the best story that is so funny.

Speaker 5 (04:57):
Well, I'm not profane by nature, but I custom every day.
It's a an old old friends time. There's no really,
I guess there's not that many. But there's too many. Uh,
there's too many.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
We saw some yesterday. Where was that on terra spike.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
To give to the horse park.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, that's amazing.

Speaker 5 (05:17):
Well, they allegedly migratory, you know, so you can't you
can't shoot them or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
I think a lot of them are domestic.

Speaker 5 (05:24):
I don't think you're agreed with the domestic.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Then they don't migrate.

Speaker 5 (05:29):
I think they're very happy to stay where they are.
Too much good food.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Then has a bunch of them, you know, they hang
around right in front of the office out there. Yeah,
up and down that stream.

Speaker 5 (05:42):
Yep, they do well. I don't care for them. I
really did not. I did not care for them.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
We're trying to sell well somebody.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
We were talking to somebody and about your story of
getting rid of them that the horse park, and one
woman said, oh my god, I remember that. My children
they were stepping in geese tool.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
Yes, that's it. Yeah, And I raised my boys out
there and that would always irritate me. And well, that
was a joyous day that when we got them all
rounded up and put them putting in there, and yeah,
I did make that little speech to him. I said,
now who's laughing, who's talking? That's it, that's it, And
they were all looking at me. Gonna apologize everybody for

(06:26):
missing the show last week. That's just one of those
things that happened, you know. And that's the first show
we've missed since we started doing this in nineteen ninety eight,
when it was the first show. Yeah, first show we've
ever missed. My goodness, twenty and twenty seven years more.
You're not slacking though.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Well. I got to tell the good news though, because
Ursul had a little heart thing and we finally got
around to doctor Osam. I've been too because I had
a regular heartbeat. It wasn't much better.

Speaker 5 (07:03):
That's that's just my gosh.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
He is a genius. He's wonderful. I mean, he explains
everything and what we're going to do and that's it.
Nurse's going to get a stint.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah, I would so pleased because we had been somewhere else.

Speaker 5 (07:24):
They're just going to send.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
You home to Yea And this was so wonderful.

Speaker 5 (07:30):
He is just the best and it's demonstrated once and
for all that that our soul indeed has a heart.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
They thought you were all brains, but no fool and
they they hadn't gotten the pictures when we were there,
and they were getting them from another place where we went.
And I got home and the soul ring and this
girl told me we're about to drill. Some wants to

(08:02):
do a sit, and it was like somebody turned the
lights back on.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
I didn't know how depressed I was. You know, you
don't really know. And then all of a sudden they
said that.

Speaker 5 (08:14):
Well, those things are a new lease. Yeah, all of
a sudden everything opens up, and that's good.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
I'd started working on another ninety four years. That's it.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
That's right, get something to train. Go out here and
and UH did on something, and we'll put it in training.
I miss we're out of horses, but I miss the poles.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
I like messing with the poles in the spring and
all that kind of stuff, because if you work with
them and all that, they don't.

Speaker 5 (08:47):
Get a little goofy. That's right. Yeah, if they're imprinted
right from the start. Yeah, that's that's that is very
very very true.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Every so often, though, you get one that is and
I'm not getting installed with this by myself. Yeah, Dennis,
we named it Dennis the Menace because he was just
so full of himself. And you know, he's.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Spooky, started that being real spooky.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yeah, And we'd walked came in, we talked to him
and Ursul said, one time he was in the stall
with him and he just started running, running circles around Ursula.
He said, a stall got smaller and smaller he did.

Speaker 5 (09:30):
And that's funny that they He hadn't had anything to
mak him spooky. He just had sometimes that had come
out that.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Was nature, and they came out of it. He came
out he can pumped the almost a pet. Yeah, we'll
wing some nice races with him. Yeah. What was his
name again?

Speaker 5 (09:50):
Damnation, Damnation. I'll tell you what.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
We were at Homewood Farm, which is close to Midway.
Went down in the Midway to get our mail, and
I had sent in.

Speaker 5 (10:07):
A bunch of names.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Came back. Every one of them was turned down. Ursul said, well,
hell fire and damnation. So I ran down hell fire
and damnation. We got damn nations.

Speaker 5 (10:20):
Oh that's great.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, Oh, I love that he was. He was really talented,
but he was also prone to h Yeah, pull a
little something here, pull a little something there.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
I did one with him. Yeah, so I really did well.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
You know, you talk about the horses names my nephew
and his his wife. So my nephew is my niece. Uh,
Jamie Nicholson and Megan Nicholson. They had they had bred
a horse who was in a race at Keenland yesterday.
And I don't know much about the horse, but I
love the name. Uh, the horse's name, the little two

(11:01):
year old. The horse's name is the grumpy rabbit. Oh cute,
the grumpy rabbit, the gumfy rabbit. A grumpy rabbit, the
grumpy rabbit. That's funny. And they've got three young children,
and who are you know? They're my great nieces and
nephews now, and they're just really adorable. But they do
all kinds of things with those kids. And I'll suspect
it has something to do with the story with those kids.

(11:24):
But I was going to text Jamie today and say
and o' megan and say, what's what's the story? Finished
third in the ninth race yesterday, so uh, and I
put a little across the board, So you got my
money back anyway, there, you got my money back.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
That's when my best friend, Matt Howard. You find out
who your best friends are when something happens like this anyway,
because we're grumpy all the time.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
That's funny. There are certain names that stick with you
so because they're so clever.

Speaker 5 (11:59):
Yeah, well, I like and I like kind of noble
interesting names. Complexity that you're talking about. I think that's
just a kind of a neat name it is. Yeah,
you know, just pretty good instead of us too. Yeah,
but that's why we've had a Fortunita winter yesterday in
New York. Eleven eleven stakes winners. Now, yeah, that's pretty good.

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But that's typical what they do with air Dree Brett
Jones and all that.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Oh that's a great Drenchers Brett is a chip off
the old block. Dead was a fantastic man.

Speaker 5 (12:36):
Yeah, well, very kind, very important to the history of
old France, that's for that's for sure. Uh under Jones
was one of the first who who gave Michael a
little money to get started with that get you know,
to to invest in him at a time when everybody
thought he was crazy to me, yeah, and now just

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some people think he's crazy.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
I'll tell you what I remember about those times. Michael
was talking about that and it was starting to get a
little traction, and all of a sudden, there are about
six women, different.

Speaker 5 (13:14):
Women, and one of them was going to have a
retirement home.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
For dressage horses, and another one was going to have
a retired home for jumpers or something. You know that
everybody wanted a piece of it. Yeah, that didn't go
very far, but that was those are a fun time.

Speaker 5 (13:31):
Well, but the thing that he did that it's still
that was important then and continues to be important. He
got people thinking about it and talking about it, and uh,
you know that what does happen to a lot of
these sources and even you know, I think good people
were you know, we're doing many doing the right thing,

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but thought, well, maybe I can do some more, and
maybe I haven't thought through this thing totally. And I
think that's the great great contributions hewn a light and
now and you know, of course I'm only a year
and a half into this, but I'm just amazed after
care is now a big pillar of the whole thing.

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You know, what you can say, what part of the
business so you am, well, I'm in breeding, I'm in training,
I'm in sales. Now you say I'm in aftercare. And
it's just means something. It means something. Yeah, and great
you said that twenty years ago.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
What the hell? Well, yeah, are you talking about now?
Always trying trying to find a home for a horses.
Most of them died right here old age. But well, yeah, you.

Speaker 5 (14:40):
Were always you were doing that. I think that's probably
part of your breeding. Is you always respect?

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah, tell them. They had a horse at Dixiana and
mister Mama Yeah, and she was pretty much at the
end of her Yeah, And mister Fisher told Ursul said,
I don't do what you have to do, you know.
So mister Fisher had a little building up over away

(15:09):
from out of the way from somewhere. He put mis
Jemima and Ursula up there. Ursill had to take care
of Mischief.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
I was ten years old, and so they wouldn't put
her down. We spent the winter together. Yeah, she had
been the champion two year old Philly with her year
as a matter of fact, Brinbody or Bradley, but she
raised for it. There's a complicated story how she ended
up with Dixiana. Mister Fisher ended up with her, and

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she won like six stakes as a two year old,
and fold to think he was man of war by
the way. She even went against him once.

Speaker 5 (15:48):
Yeah, a seventeen was it nineteen seventeen. Yeah, but I liked.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
The idea of ten year old a boy his father
called him, ten year old boy going up there taking
care of that old mayor.

Speaker 5 (16:02):
Well, see that mayor still had a job. He was
or she was a teacher. She was a teacher to.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
I learned a lot from her, Yeah, I really did. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
What was she like?

Speaker 3 (16:13):
Oh she was a pieh catch? I mean she was
so old again with it was big at a minute
and real dark, dark baby mayor mayor not many not
much right on her, and she was a pushy catch,
you know. Yeah, dad knew that, and he wouldn't have
sent me up there was something we're going to I
could screw up.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
I just love that story.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Did you guess mister Fisher ever figured it out?

Speaker 3 (16:40):
I don't know, but if he did, he probably knew.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
That's the way the Fishers.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
I'd like to think that he knew.

Speaker 5 (16:48):
And yeah, and kind of to kind of said, well,
that's all right, yeah, yeah, well that but that's the story,
is that that whole that mayor still had still had
a job and still had purpose and was doing a
good thing. And uh, the next I mean when you
got really thank her because look here at eighty four
years later we have ursul and one.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
Should have known that she'd probably kick me anyway.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Did she race for the DIA or somebody else?

Speaker 3 (17:23):
Somebody else? And there's a long story about it. She
was by a horse and uh, my memory and what
it used to be, but it was very familiar horses
at the owner of the staying that she was by.
Didn't you like him?

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (17:43):
And was you know? And all of a sudden here
came miss to Maima and she was the best filly
in the country. So they brought that stay in back.
Yeah yeah yeah, and black Tonians who it was.

Speaker 5 (18:01):
It was the stallion Yeah, okay, oh.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yeah, he came back and you know, but it was
it was just fun. She was he was an man.

Speaker 5 (18:15):
Yeah, that's that's funny how these stallions can can be
out of favor and then all of a sudden, one
season in your back of favor with I tease, uh
and Andy Cohen, that's the principal owner of Big Brown,
and uh uh, he's just he's a wonderful man and
cares so much for the well being a Big Brown.

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But you know, Big Big Brown's uh progieny was kind
of declining a bit. Hints Big Brown is that old
friends now. But here emerges Pooka has the best you know,
so all of a sudden, Big Brown is well, this
could be the one of the great damn sires of
and and teasingly he called Andy said, I'll be thinking,

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you're gonna get just get him back in action.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
She's in the sale coming up. Yes, she is in
the November November Breaking Stock say, Aaron, wait a minute,
there are two sales coming up at the end of
the month or something.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
One of them is called the Championship Sale.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
What's that in one month? And right and wherever Breaking
Stock say it.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
I don't know, I didn't.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
I just glance.

Speaker 5 (19:27):
Well, it's two sales, right, yeah, yeah, one of kinge
one in phase Kipten. Yeah, And she said she which
one to see.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
I believe he's in. I believe she's in phase.

Speaker 5 (19:41):
I believe she is in.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yeah. John Stewart owns, you know, John into his mother. Yeah,
I know John had that kind of money.

Speaker 5 (19:50):
Oh yeah, really, that's why I'm not sure it's the
one I know. No, it's it's the John Steward of
Resolute Racing.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (19:58):
Uh, the big Big Farm right, yeah, who was on
the Netflix series. Uh really yeah, and uh making a
big splash in in in racing. We went out to
see her, uh, just to bring bring some treats from
daddy from Big Brown.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (20:20):
Oh, she's gorgeous. But John, I know she's gonna I
would suspect she'll be in big time favor.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
A lot of money.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yes, like to sales.

Speaker 5 (20:32):
My gosh, did you go out to the sales for fun?
I did for fun and just a visit with a
couple of a couple of good friends of old friends.
And uh and then of course was at the sales
at Saratoga too. And what we are in a golden
era now. The prices are prices are good, that's right.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Tell her the purse.

Speaker 5 (20:55):
Yeah, the persons are unbelievable getting less race tracks. You know,
that's a thing, that's a worrisome thing. But boy, the
purses at those tracks are pretty healthy. Yeah, you know,
thank heaven, because.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Well that's the worries.

Speaker 5 (21:13):
That's a worry with you know this it golf Stream,
Well it's involved in this, Uh the attachment of Gulf
Stream to the casino. And what they refer to in
Florida is decoupling. So you decouple that. You can have
a casino, but you will keep that racetrack and that's

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part of the deal. And uh that they're those who
want to decouple that, and they because the casino often
is more profitable. Yeah, yes, so, but it did not pass.
And I'm always you know, I'm always one of these.

(21:55):
I'm an I'm a dinosaur. I actually think people can
get into a room and read together and come up
with a solution that works forever. That kind of thinking
is out of favor these days. Yeah, I still think
you can do it. And there's too many good people
that want the right thing that if everybody would just
just get in a round. Well, if that happens, there's

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nothing in South Florida, right, that's a problem.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Not any more Barter Clothes.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Of course is Tampa open, but that's.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Up the up, up the peninsula. Yeah, well this is
the last Sunday and Clone group on pre von Europa.

Speaker 5 (22:36):
How about that? He was he was a good form
this morning Jackie, who.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Was won by Sabballan for You by blame Folding France
and written known by the Aga khan Stead. Other group
of Grade one winners by blame include Sanka winning in
France and the Classic group on French Oaks Wet Paint
win in this country, the classic Grade one coaching of
American oaks and over one point three million Marley's Freedom

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win of the Grade one Ballerina and over one point
two million Nahal winn of the Grade one Arkansas Derby
and over one million fault one of the Grade one Center,
Margareta Abstin win of the Grade one Intan Mistakes, and
the list just keeps on going on and on. Vaded
stakes winners March Maraudum Mississippi, Epigrad Flame, Debbie Officiating, Miss

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Band Behavior, Owners, Shatski Beyond Blame, Solo Pod, Sitigate, Daisy,
Miss Kentucky, Far from Over Beyond Blame, fifty three States winners,
one hundred and three steak songs, fifteen percent of his
starters wearing black type. We've got a heck of a
good shot of black type in the America private circuit

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with blame and he's a great source of Stammer. His
daughter are also becoming collectors. Items Blame won of the
Grade one breeders Cup Classic earned an Eclipse Ward and
earned over four million. Three hundred and sixty eight seven
is a claven Bread. He's standing in Cleven Farm in
Queer's that Jacob West at nine nine eight seven two

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three three old websites clamronfarm dot com. Well, let me
talk about some of another outset over in in Parish, Kentucky,
like Clavern Farm, and that's the clave old Agency in
Indian Creek. Actually they won in the same Indian Creek.

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Of course, there's a gorgeous horse farm over there. That's
my frame Shack Parish heads that up. We see Shack
every now and over Little's when as soon as I
recover from my little escapade, we'll go back and probably
see him again. Yeah. Yeah, the Copeland's over there and

(24:53):
there too. You know Copeland had the same.

Speaker 5 (24:55):
Problem, my same thing. Yeah, they fixed fixed him up
really well. That's amazing.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
People accuse me trying to, you know, follow in Copeland.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yeah, somebody one of those doctors.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yeah, I think I think I'll pass. Bob's the hell
of a guy, But I don't think I want to
follow him, not with that, not with that anyway. Now.
But clave Ward Agency was founded back in nineteen thirty one.
I mentor James clay Ward, and uh, you know, they're

(25:33):
professional insurance people. If it pertains as a third bed,
then they can they're in position to give you the
best coverage at the best price available. As a matter
of fact, they didn't get you covered at there's all
of the hammer which is which is a great coverage you know,
as Shaq and Bruce Isaacs number over there is nine

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eight seven eighteen sixty one are the officers right there
on Main Street in Parish eleven or two Main Street
in Parish and took it. And of course Indian Creek
is is it's it's really a gorgeous place. If it's
kind of a little bit out of the way over
there and good, yeah, but it's it's it's it's farmland
all around it, yeah, and it's it's wonderful land. And

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they raised the top horses and they had a hell
of a sail as you're both the hearing sails and
they just do a good job. They're great horsemen over there,
so nice what it boons to. So you know they've
raised and boarded and sold many of the world's finest
therbs right there, but that's two outfits. It's fewer and
the horse Withness the Clayboat Entrancy and Indian Creek. And

(26:43):
the best way to get ahold of them over there
is just go to their website, which is Indian Creek
ky dot com.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
Now back to the Thoroughbred Training Center and urso ellis.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
All right, where were we?

Speaker 5 (27:02):
Well, you just mentioned when you were talking about Shaq
Parris and Lil's and everything. Last week we took there
were four of us from old friends.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
We went.

Speaker 5 (27:14):
We drove through Paris and went to Carlisle and then
on the Greater Carlisle we went to a pleasant View farm,
which is where we've got about We've got about nineteen
of our horses there. Retired Thirdbread's there and Stephen who
runs it and owns it, former farm manager and Scott

(27:38):
just a cool little operation there and he takes great
care of our horses. And you know, we got so many.
We looked for we looked for nice places and we
just had the best time. It was all part of
the We had to photograph and document do all these things,
which is part of the Thirdbred after Care Alliance, the accreditations.

(28:03):
She got to, you know, show everything that's really good
so that we eliminate any fly by night you know,
operators in the aftercare whorl. But we had just the
best time. And so we drove back through and we
stopped and we had lunch at Lil's and then we
had to stop in at Quillans and all the there

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was a couple of our people hadn't seen us, and
you know, and they're so good to said old friends.
And that was so we just had the best time
and walked up and down the street and looked at
the murals, you know, and and uh, Paris is just
a nice it's just a peace of heaven.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
And they're dedicating.

Speaker 5 (28:48):
Murals Sunday silence.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
That's sure.

Speaker 5 (28:52):
Did Yeah, that's Jamie RM and that yes, it did
just like him, I mean about Jamie. But the mural looks, well,
Jamie looks a lot better than me.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
But I mean you got to hang up there and
you know, two or three stories above the street and
paint something it looks like, you.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
Know, capture it where it just that where it really
looks like.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
I think that's amazing because it's who But anyway, they're
going to have them unveiling October twelfth, Okay, yeah, what
day would that be?

Speaker 5 (29:33):
A Saturday Sunday? Well, which would be appropriate? Oh, Sunday silence,
So I didn't think of it. Well, there's just so
there's also at the horse Park on the eleventh, which
is one week from today, is in the morning, you know,
pretty close to right now, a week from now, the

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unveiling of the statue of Cody's wish. Yeah, and and
that's just really wonderful. And it's right there by the
very close to the Hallow Champions and it's a beautiful,
beautiful statue and wonderfully they're very touching the way, yeah,
the whole thing. Now, are they making a movie out

(30:14):
of that? Yes? I think that yes they are. I
mean they are not talking at the school, but I
know they.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Are because somebody I talked to the other day, I
think from iHeart. Maybe I don't remember that. They said
us being in town to get ready for the the movie.
I said, they've been out to the farm.

Speaker 5 (30:36):
Well, the Dormant family, you know, Cody's family are real
careful about you. Know who made the movie and what
and how they portrayed everything. And he said I could tell,
and they're just wonderful people. And said, you know, I
remember him telling me I can tell. I said, I

(30:57):
may not be, you know, the greatest Mars guy. Actually
he is, but he said, I can tell when somebody's
interested in money and somebody's interested in doing the right thing.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
Yea.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
And he said, I didn't want I'd rather not have
a movie made than being you know, silly or not
true and unt yeah, and he and this will not
be that. This will be the real story of the
little boy, the real story of the horse and that.
And if you just tell the truth, it's one of
the great stories of you know, racing. Yeah. And it's

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a beautiful, beautiful statue and it's interpreted with you know,
these plaques of this is what happened then and that
and and the you know, there's this beautiful photograph of
the horse interacting with him in his wheelchair, and they
don't they don't have the wheelchair as part of it.

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They have the horse leaning forward so you can have
that moment uh with them, you know. But this is
Joscelyne Russell, who's the one of the great sculpture sculpture
us is that the way sculpturists of female sculpture person
uh of our time?

Speaker 3 (32:08):
What that is? Ah?

Speaker 5 (32:11):
You know did start Sergeant Reckless? Uh oh yeah, yeah,
you know, and you know, maybe someday she might be
doing something for us at old friends. You know, you
never know, we're not we're not in the statue business.
We're in the horse care business. But somebody might might
find something like that someday. We would love that. Now

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you've got a new horse, well, we got the news.
One is Major Blue, who uh was de Wayne Lucas's
last horse. Yeah yeah, and Miss Lucas sent him, sent
him over and we couldn't be happier and more thrilled.
And that you know, that's the Michael and I talked

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about this a lot too. That really what we do
on all these tools and having all these guests and
these people all that we're we're like, you're like you
and Jackie do We're celebrating the sport. We're telling stories
about the sport and not only what the horses have done,
but the people that have been around the horse. And
Major Blue didn't you know, didn't exactly you know, he

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didn't set the world on fire, but he had a fine,
you know, respectable career. But it gives us a chance
to talk about the Wayne Lucas, mister Lucas and all
that he contributed to the sport. What a what a
fine you know, character of one of the you know,
leading characters of our time in thirdbred racing and the

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contribution he made and the tree of other trainers and
other people whose lives he touched. And by the way,
I was at his memorial service at Churchill Downs, which
was really really spectacular. Had his grandson feet which was
which he's a major in the Air Force hence hents

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major blue. Yeah, oh good, and they're very touching remarks.
And I had forgotten and this is the true with
Bob Baffert and maybe others, but mister Lucas came from
the quarter horse world, and I loved the quarterhorse world
because when I was to bat Yeah, that's where we

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had Sergeant Pepper feature at the horse Park, and that's
where he was in the Hall of Champions. It was
a great quarterhorse runner. And that was the first time
I met Bob Baffert when we had the funeral services
for Sergeant Pepper feature and Bob came to that.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Oh that's great.

Speaker 5 (34:43):
Yeah, that was you know, I think that was like
his when he was twenty one or something.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
You know, a lot of successful trainers came up under
Lucas that acceptable.

Speaker 5 (34:56):
Yeah, well he was. He's a right mentor and wanted
to be Yeah, you know what.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
He said something about it. I talked to him everything
they know, but I didn't teach him everything that I know.

Speaker 5 (35:10):
Yeah, I was about to say that he may Yeah,
he he made that.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
He and Bob Copland are good friends.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Yeah, is that right? Well to share her birthday? Oh really?
Oh they had a birthday party for Bob. He was
ninety nine years old. Uh at Leo's and uh, nice
people coming in and everything, you know, and as you
got through with it and Bob, you know, Bobby's well,

(35:41):
I can't wait the next year. Yeah I do.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
If shot it telling that, you know, probably put a
little money down to reserve the spot. Oh yeah, she
wouldn't do it. That's a great place. That's a great
story too.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Talk about Lil's a lot.

Speaker 5 (35:59):
Oh was on and Lil's Lils.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
You know, her husband her name is Clara, Her husband
Brad oh okay, yeah, yeah, that's kind of cool that.

Speaker 5 (36:17):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
One of nice takes just the other day came back
and one of mister Dan did where was that one
of nice steaks at your churchill? Yeah, yeah, I got
a commercial in here about it. You know, he's gee.
I think he's one over four four million dollars. That's yeah.

(36:39):
Keny Peak raging yep. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (36:42):
And by the way, Kenny McPeak trains the grumpy the
grumpy rabbit that I was talking about. Oh I love it. Yeah, Well,
don't you remember.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Sartan Carter sar Sort Carter Thornton's grand.

Speaker 5 (37:03):
I think used to.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
When he was real little.

Speaker 5 (37:08):
He'd point to a horse, no moo moo, you know
he mess.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
He met real little kid, moon move, you know, not
like it, how like it's the cow, say moo move.
And they wound up naming.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
A horse moo move something or another for that cat.

Speaker 5 (37:28):
I thought that was a good one.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
We're bett take care of some business here, Okay, y'all
just get talking. I can't stop you.

Speaker 5 (37:35):
I know, it's it's old. It's not a lot you
can do with this open.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Yeah. Well, last Sunday would bind the three hundred and
found out of Breeders Stakes that's the third leg of
the Canadian Trip of Crown was won by Tom's Magic,
a three old hold by Justified. Tom's Magic was a
closing second, and the Greed and Maland were in the
Maland a quarter King's plate and the Breeder Stakes was

(37:59):
over ten faroughs. He is also one of the Taylor
the Catch Stakes at Mama and the Black Gold States
at the Fairgrounds, and he is one of fifteen twenty
twenty five stakes winners by Justified. Five of them are
Graded States winners, two of them Grade one. That same day,
the two hundred down out of Remington Park Oaks went
to So There she was a three old favor. Munnings

(38:22):
second in the Grade three Tory Pine Stakes at del
Mar in her previous start So There she was is
also placed in the Grade one Delmore Debutante Stakes and
the Debutante Stakes at Churchill Downs National ranks again in
twenty twenty five. Monnings is one of six Ashford studs
currently ranked along the top twenty on a North American silist.

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Northern State farm in North America can match that achievement.
Also standing at Ashford is one of Money's Grade one
winning sons Jack Christopher a triple Grade one winner of
a million two hundred and sixteen thousand, four hundred. He
was unbeaten at two and Dak Christopher won the Grade
one Champagne Stakes, the Great one hi Al and Jerkins Memorial,

(39:05):
the Grade one one is Steven Stakes and the Grade
two pat Mouth at three placed in the Grade one
Haskem and his only other start was never beaten going
around one term his first fuls of earrings. They were
extremely well received at the sales. For more on the status,
just called ashidst the phone number over those eight five
nine at age seventy three seventy eighty eight. And of

(39:28):
course the website is coolmoord dot com.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
And we were talking about you all going down to
Paris and it's real funny. I mean, one other town
would you go to? And uh, the here we got
something to show you. Why do you see this tax shop?

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (39:46):
You know, I mean, and it's wonderful. It's on main
Street and they keep getting the wrong address, but you
can't miss it down. Keep your head turned right now.
What he's gonna tell on me?

Speaker 3 (39:57):
Tell tell him what he said when you call him?
Tell them We had to cancel the show.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Oh well, we were in the process of hand hanging
up and I heard Ralph our Souls. He's been quiet
now Ralph Our Souls doctors.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
It was great. Listen Ralph Crown in five minutes.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
And I'm telling you he's just so you know, he'd
buy these buildings and really fix them up. So whoever
was next door fixed it up.

Speaker 5 (40:38):
It looked so good downtown.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
It doesn't look crumbing our older.

Speaker 5 (40:42):
And nasty, wonderful experience to walk in downtown Paris.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Yeah, they're gonna have the what I say.

Speaker 5 (40:47):
Next week, Oh, it's Sunday Silence.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Sunday Silence, and they're gonna have music. I'll take Betsy.
I hope Arthur Mountain Music Ambassadors.

Speaker 5 (40:58):
I love Van Joe's well, Arthur's playing, Arthur might be
playing Author Jr. Maybe Okay, the Gout both play.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Yeah, I know. I love to listen to them.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Yeah, they're good.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
They are Arthur.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
Arthur is talented.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
That's his song, Sunday Songs.

Speaker 5 (41:18):
Well, he got a lot of attention in Nashville that
read Arthur's book, and all the big names knew Arthur,
and they were all buddies and they certainly respected his
his musicality. Well, it's of course, it's.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Interesting they had the vision and all that stuff to
go ahead and knew what he wanted to do, you know,
and music and that was anyway. Well back to Quilling,
Quilling leather and Tack quality service leather good since nineteen
eighty two. And they suns are discustom Hunt Shop twenty

(41:58):
thousand alters a year, Quilling t u Io l Ion
dot com Paris nine eight seven oh two one five.
And when you walk into the store, the front half
of the store is glass, big glass windows, and they've
got all kind of leather goods hanging around. And if

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you're in a hurry for a halter or somebody got
some hanging up, go pick out your size and they'll
slap a nameplate on it for you and you're good
to go. And then and behind that is a glass
wall where they you can watch them make stuff.

Speaker 5 (42:40):
Oh I did that. That is so it's so fascinating.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Yeah, they're great.

Speaker 5 (42:45):
Ayboy, buy anything, and yeah, some of our people bought
little little trinkets.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Yeah that's fun though. That's a fun plate for Christmas.

Speaker 5 (42:53):
It is, you know, it's funny you say that because
I said, well, you know that you look pretty busy,
and oh, yes, busy as it's Keenland, the sales, the
horse park stuff. And then she said, and then it's Christmas.
You know, Christmas is a really busy time for them.
It's because they got so many cool things. And what

(43:14):
a unique gift to give somebody.

Speaker 6 (43:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Well in pony club, those kids come from out of
town for pony Club at the horse park and they
flood that place and all of them are running out
with bracelets. Bets He's got.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
One, and then their name on it.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Betsy's has got a horse's name on it.

Speaker 5 (43:32):
Okay, that's a great idea.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
That's that's how you do that.

Speaker 5 (43:36):
So anyway, give Ralph.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
And all of them are quill on a call it's
local number.

Speaker 5 (43:42):
Or stop in.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
It's just great. Nine eighty seven O two one five
nine eight seven O two one five.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
You know they're in several steaks yesterday. I think i'd
probably better announce it was real quick. Oh yeah, they're in.
They is great one at it. Uh, added Keenan that
Tommy Joe wanted through the disqualification of Percy's Bar. Tommy
Joe isn't in the mister phillipred and owned by s

(44:11):
Friendship Farm.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Do you see that race?

Speaker 5 (44:13):
Yeah, you see that R's come over on the Philip. Yes,
that was pretty clear. Yes see.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
Okay. Also the four hundred and found not a greater
Jumin stakes a keen than yesterday. I went to imagination
the lady Frankie the torri by not this time? Did
you think Frankie the Tory was yeah, good by asking
you farm and coats next table that's over and uh,

(44:47):
Woodford County. They were in the Phoenix. It's a historic
race outed keenan the four hundred thousand dollars Phoenix. It's
a grade two and knocker Tommy one that by firing
line bry By Arnold's him and Crestwood Farm is Pope
McGain and they ran the Grade three and seventy five

(45:08):
found out of Fortuity in New York and intricate spirit
on that by complexity. But Ben Henley, Rebecca Henley and
Jim Ray and they ran the Grade three two hundred
thousand other Pilgrim stakes boat us Bill Tte has bought us.
I guess it is anyways by Blacoma Nation understood or it's

(45:30):
over spends the farm. Yeah, good bye BCS severs to
those of yesterday's sinks. I thought.

Speaker 5 (45:38):
I got to share something with it with frank Franky
the Tory one. It was imagination. Imagine the imagination, the lady, imagination,
the lady and you talked about it. You know, European jockey,
so they interview him in the press afterwards, you know
some of our jockeys, you know. Scause. Yeah, I was.

(46:00):
She was a good horse. She was going to you know,
but not Frankie the Tory. He's got to say that
he goes. I knew there was a there was a
bit of speed. I didn't want to go for wide.
I managed to slaughter her in behind the leaders and
I got to teach her something to relax. Then I
crept my way through the bend and swung her out.

(46:21):
She's a big Philly with a big stride, so I
gave her an eighth of a mile to get organized,
and then she took off. She's got a lot of potential.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
What a what a summation of a race? He jumps
off the horse and then he jumps yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
And he jumps in the air. Yeah, but I didn't
know that that's great.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
Yeah, he'd get pretty old of me jumping off that
though fifty four years old, and I know that he
sails through the air. I let's go. That's great because
how it comes down.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
You should publish that, because that's very well that.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
I think.

Speaker 5 (46:54):
This is in the polic report. This morning, Jan and
I were having coffee and I said, I just started laughing.
This is this is a public relations jockey. Yes, yes,
going to take Kinland. I'm not sure has he ever
written there before?

Speaker 3 (47:09):
Oh? Oh yeah, O has frankt for he's written. Yeah,
he's been riding over New York California.

Speaker 5 (47:16):
There, he's in California. I just didn't know if he'd
come here, I think, so, okay, well they then you
would know. And uh but boy, he's I could listen
to that kind of thing all day too, you know, wonderful,
you know, and I taught you know, I was able
to teach her, you know, just all the stuff.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
I love it. I love it. Yeah, that's what you
call a great interview. Anyway, Oh no, bs, But anyway,
that's the fun part of it. Yeah, you know, let
me catch up here. The spender stay in Sade. The
winters are seven stakes last weekend and then there's just

(47:57):
two of them. Imagination one the Grade two cent need
a sprint championship. That's a winning you're in for the
Breeders Cup Sprint and mischifin motion one hundred and fifty
thou on the Christiania States at Dinnerware in twenty to
twenty five in the Mischief has had twenty stakes when
there's thirteen of them graded states, winning five Grade one
and then lead on the number two sires over seven

(48:18):
million dollars. Now Omaha Beach the nation's number one third
crop sire side Nevada Beach winner the Grade one Goodwood
Stakes at Santinada, beating older horses the El Gaylord Memorial
Remington went to Woodstock u Ti fully by the Open
the Nations and number one ranked freshman Star Grade three

(48:39):
four and the found out Oklahoma Derby winner bracket Buster
is by Bokoma, the nation's never won second crop Star
with runners by in the mississan Omahama Beach running second
and third to him. And we're not through the first
foes Basin who stands at space the farm. We're two
year olds and some ravier by Basin one one hundred

(49:02):
thousand hours for art to stakes at Praimeters and Mystic
dan By Golden Cents won the Grade two five hundred
found out of Lucas Classic Stakes at Churchill Dance and
much the same style as he displayed to win the
Kentucky Derby last year. He has now earned four million,
eight hundred nineteen thousand, one hundred and sixty dollars. Golden Sense,

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of course, is also the South Positano Sunset, the winner
of the Grade one Madison Stakes this year and of
over a million dollars, multiple Grade one win of going
to Vegas and multiple graded stakes winning by my standards
went of over two point two million dollars, and his
stable made out of the Spencer Farm the Breeders Farm.
For more on the Spencer Standards, it's called There's a

(49:45):
Brian of arc and Daniel eight five nine two five
four years zero thirty. In the website is Benthrothfarm dot com.

Speaker 5 (49:55):
Okay, talk about about Buddy Hill Parker.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
Work, you know held, Oh yeah, everybody knows you.

Speaker 5 (50:01):
He's just a great guy.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
He is a realtor and he's horse farm land specialist,
no kidding, he's principal broker and he belongs to all
these associations and that just sounds like a list of stuff.
But when you do that, you understand that you have
to know zoning and different kind of land regulations of

(50:28):
state and local and blah blah blah blah blah. It's
endless and he knows them all. You don't have to
worry about doing something then getting it stuck for some reason.
And the other part of hill is so interesting. He's
a licensed horse trainer in eleven states, got years of

(50:49):
experience with horses. He is such a horseman.

Speaker 5 (50:53):
He used to come out when we be on.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
A clocker stand. He unload a couple with rope shanks.
I am up to the trailer and hop on one
and go work it, bring it by filling out, hop
on the other one. I mean, he really understands what
he's doing. The reason that is important to you is
if you're going to put a lot of money into property,

(51:15):
you don't want to munk it up by putting the
wrong things in the wrong places. You have to know
what the purpose of a stabling, breeding, training, selling.

Speaker 5 (51:27):
Whatever you want to do.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
And then if you've got a sixteen year old daughter,
she has him a ring, oh yeah, and jons and
so on and so forth. So he knows all this stuff,
he knows how to do it, he knows about access
and structures. Just an amazing guy. He just is an amazing person.

Speaker 5 (51:49):
True horseman, true.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Horsemen and a great broker. He's real smart.

Speaker 5 (51:54):
Ted Bassett always told me, he said, for every one
hundred people that said they were a horseman, one truly is.
And I would put Hill Parker in that ca Yeah,
brew horseman.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
It is true. If the thing about horses is you
and monk to stall, it ain't been there.

Speaker 5 (52:14):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
But there's a great real estate man too. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Smart.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
That's his main, main business. And the best way to
get in touch with Hill is go to his website
which is lex horse Arms dot com. And of course
he works with his beautiful wife Reagan and they work together.
And there was the nicest coup you they ever want
to meet in. There's just nice people. So I recommend

(52:49):
them highly. And his phone number. Let me give his
cell numbers eight five nine number Dick z O A
zero three nine. That's Hill and Reggan Parker.

Speaker 4 (53:03):
Now back to the Thoroughbred Training Center and ursa.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
Ellis alright, we've got hopefully we're going to have James
Cuddy up at at the top of the hour.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
Yeah, but what else is going on in the old friend?

Speaker 5 (53:21):
Well that we're done. We started a thing, a wonderful
fund fundraiser called fund racer. Okay, the fund rate raisor
is the typical way of saying it. The fund racer
is our a ce r. And we are having a
race to see who can raise the most funny stallions,

(53:46):
our geldings or our mayors.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Oh so people donate in their name.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
That's exactly the fix is in. It's going to be
they got super sew. So well we'll see, hil job.

Speaker 5 (53:58):
I'm going for We've got But the Stallions are represented
by I'll have another Oh I got yeah, And and
the uh mayors are represented by Bold and Bossy. Who
was that that Philly got loose? Ran down the road
at Ellis Park, got on ESPN, running down the highway,

(54:21):
ended up in the in the mall parking lot. They
took her back to the put her in the barn.
In the barn caught fire and she.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
She got bless her heart. Yeah, get me the hit out.

Speaker 5 (54:34):
This is there's nothing good about this and she and
it's funny, you know, we sell hats with the horses
names on it, and the leading seller is bold and bossy.
That's a lot of husbands by wonderful. Yeah, that's great
and good idea and uh Bava man is the judge.

(54:55):
That's kind of like the commentator and the judge and
uh so we you know, the geltings are for certain
supplies that we need, stallions are for others. Yeah, so
we're gonna we're gonna see who's gonna end up winning,
and we're gonna give reports one. So we're really excited

(55:16):
about that. We had our hate, you know, the hay
racer to raise money to get me. We blew the
doors off of it. It could and all our barns
at all four farms are packed now full wonderful, full
of hate, all because of that here for hay.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
Yeah, this is the best named horse show ever got
over there was the first one. What was that mayor
that was they called from phasey chipping out there and
it says they are people that will owned this marriage.
And there was no bids on her or anything, and
she's just standing in the stall. We don't know what
to do, and Michael says, well, I'll take her.

Speaker 5 (55:55):
Her name was Mary Escape Escape. Yeah, remember that she's
one of the legends. She's one of them, the Mount Rushmore,
the horse mount Rushmore, of those horses that helped get us,
get us started. That was great and that that was
just fun. We and we just have had a fun
and good week. The tours are really especially you know

(56:17):
with Keenlin coming in all all week we were almost
bumping into each other with all the tour guides and
all the tours were full. Everybody was smiling and laughing
and enjoying the horses. Susan Chu came out, you know,
she's the owner of Maori we have there and dray
Ann and and better and uh shit too and so

(56:43):
she and she's a wonderful owner because she comes back
and always checks on her horses and very generous and
make sure that they're they're they're fine and bring some
treats and so it's just been that fund of special
that kind of special thing this week. Yeah, that's wonderful.
I was just always worried about to Hay, you go

(57:04):
down now and what should be one more cutting in
there right? And where you are set for the winner
And Okay, I have a.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Question I meant to ask you this. It used to
be on the interstate by the exit to Georgetown and
all that kind of stuff. You see old friends retirement
or something, brown and white signs. Where'd they go?

Speaker 3 (57:33):
Well, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (57:34):
I didn't know because I go up and down. Those
are the attractions on brown The brown signs are the attraction.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (57:40):
Yeah, I learned a lot about this when I was
in tourism.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
Yeah, but take a look and call somebody. Unless I
just fell.

Speaker 5 (57:48):
Asleep, but no, that's important. Off the interstate.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Yeah, I'm sixty four right right.

Speaker 5 (57:54):
Well it's sixty yeah, sixty four, like coming from Louisville
or other way.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Not out there anymore unless they're way down the road
and I missed them. But uh, once I got to
thinking about it, I thought, what was that?

Speaker 5 (58:08):
That's I'm going to call. I'm going to yeah about
that too. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Do you ever think anymore about baseball cards?

Speaker 3 (58:16):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (58:17):
We did, Yes, we do. And I We've got a
team of people out there now that I just kind
of there's so much great creativity and if you look
at our social media, we're getting compliments right and left,
and you know, we've got just a team of people
who video everything and come up with all these wonderful ideas,

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a great way for the horses to communicate with people
and say, you know, you know, yeah, you know, I'm
little Mike cannot you know, boy, we could sure use
this and that. And by the way, we had a
wonderful donation of a pickup truck. Oh good from one
of our one of the owners of one of our horses.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
And you know that.

Speaker 5 (59:00):
You know, it's a good pickup truck. It's not new,
but it serves our purposes. Fine, what is it? And
it's it's it's like a two thousand and four f
one fifty good but it only had thirty four thousand
miles on yeah, yeah, one for yeah, and it's for
it's four door, so in the winter time, because we've
got four farms to take care of. I like our

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guys to be able, you know, all to get into
the truck together. Nobody has to ride in the back
or anything. And he, you know, turned the heat on.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
You talked about going up toward Carlisle. Yeah, on the
way back. Is that farm on the right, Is it
on the main road on the right.

Speaker 5 (59:39):
Oh, this is not on the main road. This is okay,
this is three three roads back.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
This is well, okay, I just know that there was
one up there. Michael had looked at years ago, and
I thought, I wonder if something worked.

Speaker 5 (59:51):
That was that it now not that that's that's not
the one, all right?

Speaker 3 (59:56):
He well. The last Saturday Saturday is Grade three John C.
Harris Stakes was won by Innovative three oh four by Complexity.
Innovative roc of Maiden going nine furlongs and a Maiden
specialist Santa Anita one going a mile on August ninth
at del Mar and came from off the face to
take the Grade three John C. Harris bredon Kentucky, Bahama,

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Almouchi and Suleisia Farm. She's a two hundred and thirty
ndred dollars graduate over as eighth pul sale and also
as an Incidentally, the the Futurity in New York yesterday
was also signed by Complexity with two crops of racing age.
Complexity has already signed eleven stakes winners plus seven others

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that are placed in states. Black Furder won the Group
one Richmond Station in England. Let's see if I can
find that race over there. Here are the Grade three
Sandford Stakes at Saratoga. The Great three Ohio, Derby and
two others in New York placed in the Grade one
Champagne and earned seven hundred and ninety thousand dollars. I

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see yesterday the that's the wrong one right there. Oh well,
I'm not gonna find it anyway. He has had a
good stakes for yesterday. Complexes he did when they went
in for turity were made of eleven stakes when its

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plus seven others was replaced in states by Black Forger
has one of the Group two Richmond and the stakes
in England, Mopax, the Great Free Sample States at Sarah Chilgren,
the Great three Olives, Derby, two other states in New
York placed in the Grade one swamps ain't and Ee
seven hundred and ninety thousand dollars. Angel has won two
stakes at Oaklah That's another at turf Way. Holliegreul was

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also one stakes at turf Way and placed in the
Grade three of Misspreek State Tough cats On stakes at
the fair Grounds and Lunaruska one stakes one the far
Park Stakes in New York. Manso won the Victoria Stakes
at Woodland. Complexity rights among the leaders on the second

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craft Starlis Complexity won the Grade one Champagne at two
won the Grade two Kloso Stakes in New York and
was a game second, and the Grade one four goal
leaded by the popular McLean's Music, who has climbed to
forty thousand. His dam is Grade two stakes winner Forest Music.
Now are four stakes winners, all four of them graded

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stakes winners, with the two cops of racing age complexes
already an established are he has stands at Ashwoods at
DRIs stood inquage to Santa nor Kyle at eight seven
three seventy two seventy and the Whipsite every stood dot
com and that race at complexity one in indicate Spirit

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was a Grade three under the Sydney five downe dollar
Fortuity Stakes in New York.

Speaker 5 (01:03:04):
Oh okay, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
What doctor Belmont or Belmont and that I hate to
see that. So why know, I know, I think it's.

Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
I don't know. If we've got able to get in
we're going to do something.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
For this correcting ones and every once in a while.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
We've got to do something for Boots that research Information services.
And I hope that James Kelly is available and if so, uh, Devin,
can you you gut in touch with Gavin with James
s Kelley.

Speaker 5 (01:03:43):
Well, thank you, John, and I forgot the set. Morning James.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
It's John signing off.

Speaker 5 (01:03:51):
And uh, I got to wish my bride a happy
first anniversary today. Today is one year and she didn't
show me the door there this for a whole year,
or a whole year. I see him to be a
scene that was now and that was a long shot.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
Bet So, James, congratulations. Well yeah, okay, listen, I can't
tell you how much I appreciated you come back to
the hospital the other day, see me. Uh, that was
a shocker and I really appreciated it. And I want
you to know that we changed directions in hospitals and

(01:04:27):
we're going over to the Wood the Central Baptist Baptist
Hospital overnight and they're taking great care of me. I'm
getting a stint in my heart and I might I
might live to do another show. Who knows.

Speaker 6 (01:04:44):
That's outstanding earth, So that's right. I'm really glad to
hear it. Yeah, I was. I was happy to see
you and I was happy and you were. You were
in great shape. It didn't surprise me, but I'm glad
you got through that incident. Everything look for good right now.
I do want to say we have a huge weekend racing,

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a whole bunch of big races at Keeenlan, bel mom
and Aqueduct in Santa Anita that will provide runners for
the Breeders' Cup. Keeenlan had Alphabetis yesterday that had a
dqu unfortunately, but the top two finishers they'll be back
for the biggest up. Juvenile Phillies look forward to Tommy

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Joe and Percy's Bar running at del Mar in about
a month. But I do want to just say that
if you're going to be playing the races today, bristnet
dot com is your source of handicapping information. We have
pass performances for all tracks. We've got tip sheets, pigs
and much more. Our international pass performances are always free,

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and tomorrow is the first Sunday in October, which is
always the Arc de Trio and they've got a big
card and you can access those past performances at prison
at dot com and get any handicap reports or any
race tracks around in North America and uh and even internationally.
So uh it's the handicappers Edgebrislan dot com. And like

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I said, Keenlan, I'll just start with Keenland real quick.
They got fat big races, including three grade ones. Two
of them are on turf. The one that's on dirt
is the Breeder Security that features uh Ted Naffrey, who's
a big, big cop one of the favorites for the
Breeders Cup Juvenile and he's gonna be a heavy favorite

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in there.

Speaker 5 (01:06:35):
And the other two Grade ones.

Speaker 6 (01:06:36):
Are the First Lady a Mile turf race for Phillies
and Mayors and the set Well I mean, excuse me,
the cool More Turf Mile, and isn't that cool More
Turf Mile. I like number eight Program Trading. Uh that's
a horse I'm really keen on. He's nine to two
if Livy and Pratt and that's gonna be my play

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in the cool More Turf Mile. Give you one more
Keenland today, earth Bot Jackie in the First Lady Race eight.
I like number three Nanda Daya. This is a Group
one winning mayor in Argentina. That's two for two in
the US and one of.

Speaker 5 (01:07:13):
Stake's Quality allowance at Keenland.

Speaker 6 (01:07:15):
Last October, so I know she likes the course and
I'm gonna look for a big effort from number three
Nanda Daya in the first lady.

Speaker 5 (01:07:23):
But yeah, we do have.

Speaker 6 (01:07:25):
We got some mistakes at Belmont, at Belmont and Aqueduct,
the people definitely want to pay attention to first and foremost.
The Grade one Champagne is today and that race features.
It's our time. That's race seven and Belmont and Aqueduct.
It's our time broken as maiden by seventeen Lands first
time out at Saratoga. He's just thought of not this

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time for tom Amos and he's a real promising cult
So it's our time. Runs in the Champagne today and
at Keenlan Ted Naffrey runs and the Breeders Are Charity.
Both those horses are not only big time contenders for
the Breeders Cup Juvenile, but also potential contender to the

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Kentucky Derby next spring.

Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
That's great. That is great, And James listen, I really
appreciate you taking the time to call in, and I
wish we could do it face to face.

Speaker 6 (01:08:23):
That's get back together eventually, and I wish you and
Jackie all the best. Are so enjoy the racing this weekend.
I'll talk to you.

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
Next week, all right, my friend, Thank you, I love you,
all right, thank you, all right, Okay, let's see here.
Let's take a look at some of the stakes rations
from last week. And uh, James did a great job

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as usual of course. Yeah, it's like it's like a compete. Yeah,
it's amazing. Well, let's take a look at some of
the state's soss from last week. Is brought to you
by the Kentucky Third Bed Owners bringing the Association. The
Grade one three hundred found out of goodwood takes at

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Danaeda was won by Nevada Beach. That is a three
year old coach is by Omaha Beach. Stands over at
Spencer Farm. About Paul Tackett, the vocable trust, Bill Tackett Estate,
and Christie Tackett and the Tackett family is all over
from Georgetown. Over there, I knew Paul real Well, what's

(01:09:41):
the tackets from Georgetown, Kentucky. Let's see here.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
The pre pre von Europa Group one race over in
Cologne was the one by a horse named Sabayans that
b a y n he fold in France and bred
and his own by the Auga con stud and he
is by blamed by the way who stands over at

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Clayburne Farm that saturnated a gray too too fout of
Satinitasprint Championship winner Imagination. That's an end of mischief and
that's the winn you're in for the Breeders Cup Sprint
by the Way Imaginations bred by Peter Blum Thoroughbreds a
mile and a half Breeders Stakes, which is the third

(01:10:39):
event for the Canadian Triple cram I was running up
the Woodbine and Tom's Magic or that of three ro
O cot Is by Justify bred by Sean fitz Henry
and Dorothy fitz Henry. Thomas Magic is quite a quite
as quite a horse whether you run better. It gets

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looks like, oh I have an announcement, Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
The ARC is coming on after ten o'clock. Oh, they're
showing some of the earlier races on Fox, but the
ARC itself doesn't take off probably around five or ten
after ten.

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
So yeah, big Field. Oh my god, I don't think
there's any American horses in it though, And let's see with.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Come on, tell me how irmon you're in eighteen for
crying out loud?

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
Then't be dead.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
Well, that's true. They're gonna double wager with the Champagne
at the Big Ah. They didn't say.

Speaker 5 (01:11:59):
Oh they didn't say aquad uct to.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
Belmont or Belmont. No, no, no, you can't do it.
There you go. And if that this is funny. If
you when the arc you get all spence paid trip
to the Breeder's Cup.

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
Oh well yeah yeah, bunct like that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
Yeah, I think that's funny though, you know who I
want them trip?

Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
What's the distance of an r How far is it
all right?

Speaker 5 (01:12:30):
You ready?

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Twenty four hundred meters?

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
Oh hell let him tell me.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
I know it, and I know.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
I thought the meter or something you ready to check
how much your gas? Your head lift?

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
Right, that's where when you park.

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
Yeah, those things you have to feed the meter, feed
the meter, that's right, And.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
Yeah that's amazing. Oh fancy French.

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
The last Sunday in Cologne, the Group one pri von
Europa was won by Sabayan ll blame fold and France
brand owned by the Aga Khan Stude. Another group of
Grade one winners by blaming and include Sanga. He won
the group on French Oaks over over in France. And

(01:13:25):
then there's wet pain when in this country. The classic
Grade one coaching cover American Oaks turned over one point
three million Marlis Freedom won the Great One Ballerina over
one point three million. NAHL one of the Grade one
Arkansas Derwin he won over a million. Fault won the

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Grade one Santa Margarita Askan won the Great One Thetan Mistake,
and the list just keeps on going. Greted stakes winners
such as March and Marauder and Mississippi and Epic Ride
and blamed and officiating and ms Bain behavior owner Zatski

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beyond blame, Sylvia Pod to the gate day Zy Miss
Kentucky far from over beyond blame. Fifty three steaks swinners,
one hundred and three steak sources. Fifteen percent of his
starters earned black caps, so he's in the mayor over
to blame. And you've got a really good shot at
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he's a great social stamina, and he's a leading and
climbing rapidly climbing the Bootmere Sally says. Those daughters were
coming collectors out of it blame, of course. Won the
Grade one Breeders' Cup Classic, earned an eclipseward, earned four million,
three hundred and sixty eighth out two hundred and fourteen dollars.

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Cleveland Farm and where it's at Jacob West eight five
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can I say forever? Well, nineteen fifty five for crying
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it's that kind of a thing. You don't have to
push buttons and speak to somebody in another tone, which
I don't understand. So anyway, here's the cool thing about Hope, Well,

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Speaker 5 (01:16:59):
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didn't know you could really do that, but super Okay,
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Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
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Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
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Speaker 4 (01:17:34):
Now back to the Thoroughbred Training Center and URSA Ellis.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
Yeah, Gavin. If you get in touch with Brian doctor
Brian Wallwerds, go ahead and just butt in and let
us know. So I was gonna show them depend on this. Now,
let's see it is some stakes. He's being brought to
you by the H's Kentucky separated these bringers and association

(01:18:06):
k t A s. Anyway, the Zenzi Great City is
from steaks from Kentucky beans from last week. The Grade
two Zenyata went to uh Cavaleri by Nyquist read by
La str Thurbreds. The Grade two City of Hope mild

(01:18:27):
Steaks went Johannes one that by Nyquist read by how
would you pronounce this? See you uh a t h
y kukathi kuyati Yeah, I guess so closely. That didn't
get anyway. The Great two Lucas Classic Churchill Downs went
to Mystic Dan. He's by Golden censored with Spencer for

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red by Lads Gassaway, Daniel Hemby and UH four g
E Racing l l C and of course Kennemy Peak
friend of my trains Mystic Dan and he won that
races just but the same style and he did win.
He won the derby last year. The Great three John C.
Harris Stakes at Santa Nito went to Innovative by Complexity

(01:19:16):
a Helmet Maluci and Felicia Farm. The Grade two three
hundred found out of Woodward in New York. Winner was
locked my gun Runner Bribe Rose of Castelati. On Thursday,
the Grade three Matron Stakes went to final accord uh

(01:19:40):
Robert Uila and it's a two year old Felici Is
by War of will Over at Cleveland Farm. The Grade
three Rosburg Stakes at Belmont when it was patriotsperienced by
constitution with the Blue Heaven Farm. The Grade three Belmont
Turk Sprint Winter Alagon by California Home bred by Charles T. Massis.

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The grade through Delaware Handicamp where else at Delaware went
to Regaled by my Homan. It was a three year
old by My Old Philly by Malheman, bred by Chris Bakari.
The Grade three four hunders then Oklahoma Derby at Redmonton

(01:20:32):
Park Bracketbuster one d by Bacoma Nish Shirt over at
Spencer Farm, bred by David Baker. The one hundred fown
dout of Wilmington States at Delaware went to silver slugger
Carlo frins Over at Airdrew stood red by Frankfurt Park Farm.

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The one hundred thown dollar Kent Steaks at Delaware Park
went to Sylvie Velatu by caral Contai by Gee wats
Upford Junr. The Geo Ponte stakes at Belmont went to
Salamis Spikes down by Junmont Farm Proton. One of the

(01:21:19):
law fraturity Hooton is by a stern bred by Stone
Farm and Lynn Hancock. That's my good friend Arthur Hancock
and his daughter. I didn't fifty sound out of Christian
Christiana steaks. Yeah, Christiana stakes is tail mistifs in motion
by end the motion. It's over at Spencer Farm Redy

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Alexander and L and J. Foxwood. The El gay Old
Memorial woodstock one met by jopahn over at Spencer Farm
Southern Comfort Farmers. That one, the Rick Memorial at Remington
Park went to several Lyndka a good Samaritan by mister

(01:22:06):
and Missus al Mazzeni of Urban County. The David am
Vance Stakes at Remington Park surveilliance one that a constitution
with by doctor Cardell E. Hansen the Remington Park Oaks
so there she was one that by Moneys over money

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is a very good sire over at the Ashford Stird
This from Britain, Kentucky by Grantland Acres. The Clever Trevor
Stakes at Remington Essential Time by Central Quality, bred by
the DJ Stables. The two hundred and fifty down out
of Green West Turk Sprint at Remonton went to jack
Man's Pride by mcclean's music read by Jim plemmond on

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one hundred and fifty dollars end Dime stakes at Delaware
Tracker has dialed by dialed in, dialed in a very
that stood over at Darby Dann Breba Kingswood Farm, the
Battery Park Steaks, the Delaware Cook Creek one that that's
an Uncle Moe River Candy Meadows hundred that hour sorority

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uh Summer Villa on that by Basin over its Spendrick
Farm by h Ellen Pondexter. The hundred down dollar our
Break Breeders Oaks at Pyramedis Canoso one at another dialed
in this on bredvery Crimson King Farm and the Charles
Taylor and Taylor Derby at Albertquirkree by the Creed one

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that but Jimmy Creed tough old stood offs over there
at Spencer Farm Thisteny Roy's Mansour one hundred fifty down
dollar Kerry Memorial is all gone went to Emmanuel by
more than Ready by Helen Cake grows a vocable trust.
My last Saturday in Delaware, the one hundred and fifty
ten dollars end Down Stakes was won by striker his

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four whe old Philly, but Dial in Bread by Bread
in Kentucky by Kingswood Farm and sold at Keenan in
September for one hundred and eighty thousand. She was a
great investment. She's already won three hundred and sixty three thousand,
one hundred and seventy two dollars. Besides winning the end Dinge,
she has placed in the Skipas States at Pemaco and
the Wilton States at Stober. After winning her first start

(01:24:23):
and I made the especially the lar by six Leaks.
That same day at prayerri Metters, the one hundred and
down dollars hour Breeders Oaks was won by Canajo three
year old Philly, also by Dial in the collection of
this Philly must be they must be having a ball
and eight starts at prayer Metters She's won seven only
loss there is a third after a bad start. She's

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won three stakes. She's earned three hundred and thirty six
thousand and seventy eight dollars. Dial In has reread a
lot of joy during his career. He begin it as
the nation's leading freshman star. Then came along Grade one
winner and millionaire defunded Grade millionaires Supersouth Grade one winner
got her number earned away eight hundred and sixteen thousand.

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How about dinner vera here in five million, five hundred
and sixty one thousand, eight hundred dollars darned near one
of the Grade one Breeders Cup Classic. Dowd In has
put a lot of happy people in the winter Circle.
Paul stood Fitzkimmons over Darby Dam Great Dads eight five
two five four four to two four. Asked about the

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Grade three Grade one winners. The three Grade one winners
that completed the first seasion to thirty Darby Day in
this year are about the other Grade one size there.
They just might make you a deal you can't ree well.
Horses raised on McCallin fee. He's won five stax Slice

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Weekend the Great threason Yadam, that's the stakes at Santainey.
There was one by Cavalle, read by Alastar Thirdbred Company
and raised over at Heartland Farm. That's Robbie Lyons. This Villy,
a nine hundredthound graduate of the Obs April Salem, is
undefeated in five stars three grade. It included the Grade

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one behold a mile Locke, one of the Grade two Woodwards.
I was also one of the Grade one breeders for
Thurty the Grade one seventy, the handicap, the Grade two
cigarette mild and Amia nine hundred and eleven thousand, eight
hundred and twenty five dollars. He was read by Rosa
Calle colosst and raised on Winchester Farm. One hundred pound

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out of Wilmington stakes at Delaware went to Silver Slugger
read by Frankfort Park Farm. He won the Remizens Stakes
at Belmont in his previous start Remington Park for Remington Stakes.
Winter Gigante was bred in Virginia by Anne mudge Backer
and Smitton Farm. He's won eight stakes at six different
tracks and over a million, three hundred and forty thousand dollars.

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It must be a pretty good shipper. Also at Remington
Park for two hundred and fifty thounduds of Great West
Turf Stakes was one by Jackman's Ride, bred by Jim Plemons.
He started forty one times one fourteen, was in the
money twenty seven times, placed in stakes at lone stars
and earned over five hundred and eleven thousand dollars. So

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Speaker 4 (01:27:53):
Now back to the Thoroughbred Training Center and ursul ellis.

Speaker 3 (01:27:58):
Okay, no doctor today, I gain all right, let's see
what we can do. Now.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
Didn't they get did they get doctor Brian Longdrich? No?

Speaker 3 (01:28:13):
I guess not, okay, no telling about Brian where he's doing.
Where he's doing. Yeah, he moves, He's down Missippi State. Beside,
he's already send us to cheese. We're doing next word back.
He sends us a big bowl of cheese they make
down at Mississippi State.

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
The size of the bowling ball, I.

Speaker 3 (01:28:32):
Know, at the saltball anyway, well, better enough softball.

Speaker 5 (01:28:39):
I'm trying to figure out the volleyball.

Speaker 3 (01:28:42):
Oh, I was gonna say somewhere. Yeah, okay, now that
we're with that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
Debate, I'm trying to figure out a really great Thanksgiving
recipe for that.

Speaker 5 (01:28:58):
You know, use some of that cheese for that cheese?

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
Is that excellent?

Speaker 5 (01:29:01):
That's not kind of just take well really it is.

Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
You won't just want to take it out, need a hunk,
but it's real special, pretty neat. Well, you know, the
today's the Champagne, right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:29:17):
But the race I'm really looking forward to is that
the Spencer Steaks on Sunday with the ANDAs.

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
You know, is it Jedmont Spinster.

Speaker 3 (01:29:35):
Still no, it's just just just says Spencer Steak. Here.
This is an old history book, but there's a lot
of great horses that wanted. Preman had an old half
straight deal and gaa bloom Susan's girl. Huh one or twice? Wow,
And you skipped the year and that was a year fun.

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She was probably with Doc, Yeah, you know she was.
He was read by Fred Hooper and he had sent
that fairly after doubt. She had been a champion two
year old, champion, three year old.

Speaker 2 (01:30:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:30:20):
Then her up to Doctor Coplan the Trier and Doc
was having a hard time with her. Yeah. Yeah. He
told me that he thought she was going to die. Yeah.
And he was driving home from somewhere and Pat was

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with him, and he was constantly carrying on and Pat says, well,
listen what you're all what you're carrying on here? No
wonder she's going to die. God didn't want to hear
that kind of stuff. So as I got to driving home,
and I got to think about at that, and I

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said to herself, God, if you're mad at me, don't
take it out on that ferry. Yeah, And he says.
I got there and I opened the door and I
looked in a little bit and it was a little
bit of water out of the water tank. They put
a little feet in there, and she was eating it
and she was up. Yeah, and she was up and

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he says, you know that means yeah, made him feel
real good. Anyway, they and they she one that takes
right and as as a as a consequence, uh, they

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bread that mare too to a horse, and he named
it mister Hooper named a two year old two year
old after him. Yeah, I tried, jam he ain't called
bother and says, I won't name him. He's got a

(01:32:09):
little quality two year old down here and kind of
reminds me of you. I won't name it after you.

Speaker 2 (01:32:15):
I love it's great.

Speaker 3 (01:32:17):
And that was one three grade one races.

Speaker 2 (01:32:19):
Yeah, that's super.

Speaker 3 (01:32:22):
Isn't that something? Yeah? Wonderful? Yeah, Susan's girl too, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:32:27):
It was that a strongy little thing.

Speaker 5 (01:32:29):
Here hopefully an interview.

Speaker 3 (01:32:32):
Here's here's the state sources you want to Okay, here's
the state surces he won and the two they won,
the champagne, the futurity and a hopeful. Then he came
back and on the sound of youth.

Speaker 5 (01:32:48):
And how long ago was that?

Speaker 2 (01:32:52):
Mom?

Speaker 5 (01:32:53):
Was he pold?

Speaker 3 (01:32:53):
Do you remember Copeland? Yeah, nineteen eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
I wonder whatever happened to him?

Speaker 3 (01:33:00):
I don't know. N Oh, yeah, yeah, you win a
champagne in the Pratuia and Hopeful. He also won the
next year on the front of you went third in
the blue Grass, taking the Florida derby Jerome. But that

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was the main thing that Let's see won. That that
they didn't a lot of good racers. When that phillis
when that stated the first one was one. The spencer
was the one by Double Dog Dare like River Craven
Farmers a Phila. She was by Double James who stood

(01:33:43):
over at the Craven farm Yeah, and a very good
stud horse by Balladere Bellad there was a good South
Double j was the best of them, but Spy Song
was in Kentucky Colonel Over at Patching Wilks and Spy
Song at Dixanna. There they were good stud horses too,
but that was Double Dog there. Let's this year. I

(01:34:09):
don't believe she was kind of a She was out
of a mare name Flaming top Omaha lose by Donald Fox.
Uh see. I was also produced a cot by Double
j and Top Double at one stakes and Cope my

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Son again at one stakes. As three stakes winners. She
was granddame of a bunch of them thanks for a nurse,
including a Flaming page or Champion looking Canada. But I
don't believe that double rog. Dear, let me check her
products record. I don't believe she every did a whole lot,
now that was right. She was a Champion two Philly

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in Champion three Old Philly once six times as a
tiro and the Matron of Colleen, the Alcibodies, the National
Stann Stakes, Philly Division Ren six get to spin away
in the fashion, the three they want to Spencer, the
False City Hands kept the carne Steak you want the
ash and Stakes, when the Oaks went second in the

(01:35:10):
Kentucky Oaks and Mister Island and Cleopatrick the third in
Arlington Classic against the Colts.

Speaker 5 (01:35:17):
So she was.

Speaker 3 (01:35:20):
Flat runner, but she never produced anything, and she was
very disappointing. Is it about that? Isn't that something the
best you could do?

Speaker 2 (01:35:28):
Is makes you wonder why?

Speaker 3 (01:35:32):
That's just well, they can't all be great, great horses,
and but yeah, those of the candidate usually make it,
you know, but there's been some really good ones when
win there thing by the way, uh, let's see you
want to do a little something on.

Speaker 2 (01:35:53):
Land.

Speaker 3 (01:35:54):
Joe Palmer wrote, how much time we got left? Got
plenty of time?

Speaker 2 (01:36:02):
Yeah, You're good.

Speaker 3 (01:36:07):
This was written by Joe Palmer a few years boy
back in the nineteen fifties dated lection in Kentucky. It's
called Keenan and Keene after Boo in Jamaica and even
hoved a Gras, which, by the way, I heard that
mispronounced yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:36:27):
Have the gray seat, holy.

Speaker 3 (01:36:29):
Hoard the gray I have it, have a grace, I think?
Is that what you two announcers on it? You think
no better?

Speaker 2 (01:36:37):
You would think.

Speaker 3 (01:36:40):
I started. I hollered at him, but they didn't hear me.
Oh you must not.

Speaker 2 (01:36:44):
Ahead the television turned up loud.

Speaker 3 (01:36:46):
Well, I'm hollering at them anyway. After Bow in Jamaica,
and even Hobby a Gras, which has kept some of
the original friendly tone. It was like old slippers and
the last cigarette before the fire. They have a days
racing at Keenan. It may be just because of a
sentimental recollection, for when this onlooker drink his first julip

(01:37:07):
in the Big Stone clubhouse there it was still the
property of John Oliver Keen, a man with peculiar vision,
who nevertheless did not anticipate the monument to memory that
Keendan has become Jack Keane as he was called all
over the turf from this country. Was a Russian. What

(01:37:27):
the Russians called him when he trained there, I cannot say,
but it was unprinterable because he won too many races.
Was a blunt and vere growth and fundamentally kind man
with a high standard of profession. If he had engineered
the pyramids, he would have decided that two or three
more twenty four foot layers the stone would have made

(01:37:50):
it better, and they would have got him too, whatever
objection to the Egyptian treasurer might have made. He built
a track at Ashton in the early twenties, which may
stir a few vague members with the name of Raceland.
It was the cost of about three hundred and fifty
thouve dollars dollars were dollars in those days, and its

(01:38:12):
original plans, but when teen got through, the bill was
near seven hundred and fifty seven. Because he kept on
seeing ways he could make it better, and he kept
on riding over the stockholders who could see ready and
every sun set. The stockholders were right too. Raceland did
not even hold leave a ghost. The point is that

(01:38:32):
when Jack Kane started to build it, it was the
thing to be done, or perhaps just show the slow
and satisfying dreams of doing it, which I weighed in
material considerations. Joy said about billing Keenan as a private
training track and a place to entertain his friends manager,
it was fairly obvious to lead the same friends that

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division without paced construction. Henry Cash couldn't build as fast
as Keenan could dream as keene could dream. Why he
wanted them out on the sixteenth track instead of the
conventional mouse. This old looker couldn't say why he wanted
the clubhouse with new home houses and the offices of Keenan,

(01:39:18):
a library and a couple of dining rooms and an
apartment or so he still leads peace, yet still leads
to lees for eight hundred people to see the races.
Didn't quite clear either, that no why he wanted the
stalls for a hundred horses and training. In the nature
of things, he ran out of money a building money,
that is, though he still held the track of land

(01:39:40):
that Patrick Henry had granted to his ancestors in the
days when Kentucky was part of the Old Dominion, and
he still could maintain his stood and his racing stable.
But manners were easier all around when he sold off
the section which is now Keenlan for approximately one hundred
thousand dollars to the a group of men who founded

(01:40:01):
the present Keenland track. These men half Ice ev Major
Louis Beard and Nose had vision too, but theirs took
in things like bank balances and tangible assets, and they
built a racetrack solid and four square and satisfactorily financed.
And they say the first venture in the fall of

(01:40:21):
nineteen thirty five. This tourist is not customarily paying much
attention the total zatter, but we watched that one like
a frocker cats around a mousehold. No, I'm quite aware of.
This simile is both ill chosen and somewhat mixed. It
run up in ten days of racing approximately what has
been the last race at Jamaica Inn Saritay. The average

(01:40:44):
was fifty six thousand dollars a day, and you would
get some idea of the hoventry husbandry of Kingland organization.
When I say that that was enough, well, things have
come on since and no one has to watch the
total later anymore. The big stables gave generously of their
horses when they ran for peanuts. The officers not merely

(01:41:08):
served without salary. They paid their way in. They put
things on them nonprofit basis when it seemed the nonprofit
anger would take care of itself, and universities and foundations
have reaped the returns which came later. That's true. If
PINU didn't it?

Speaker 5 (01:41:27):
How about that?

Speaker 3 (01:41:28):
How about that? Is right?

Speaker 2 (01:41:30):
It can't write, okay, I think it's spend thrift time.

Speaker 3 (01:41:35):
Is the time for spendrift again? Let me see where
we're going on with here. I'm digging around looking for something,
something to talk about. Where did you put spend rift?
I got right in front of him.

Speaker 2 (01:41:55):
Oh my god, scare me.

Speaker 3 (01:41:58):
The desk and Sally.

Speaker 2 (01:42:01):
Oh yeah, I love Sally Dan. It's funny when you
go to the sales and you buy something, you go
first to coy Ward insure it. Then the next stop
is Sally vand to get them home. Not as good
as it gets.

Speaker 5 (01:42:20):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:42:26):
That.

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
I'm waiting for you to do.

Speaker 3 (01:42:29):
Oh spender, Oh excuse me, well, and just for that,
I'll do it, okay. The Spencer's Day inside the winners
of seven stakes last weekend in the Mischief side two
of them. Imagination won the Grade two Center Anita Sprint Championship.

(01:42:50):
That's a winner you're in for the Breeders Cup. Friend
and Mischief in Motion won one hundred and fifty found
dollar Christiania Stakes of Delaware in twenty five in the
Mistiss Sad already twenty stakes winners, thirteen of them Greatest
Stakes winner five Grade one and his lean over the

(01:43:10):
number two ranks sire is some seven million dollars now
Omaha Beach. The nation's number one third crop sire is
the Sarah Nevada Beach winner of the Grade one Goodwood
Station sant Anita, beating older horses.

Speaker 5 (01:43:28):
The E. L.

Speaker 3 (01:43:29):
Gaylord Memorial in Remington went to Woodstock, a two yeld
fully by Jopon Yopon the nation's number one ranked freshman shire.
The Grade three four hundred and found Out of Oklahoma
Derby winner bracket Buster is by Vocoma, the nation's number
one second crop sire, with runners by in the midst

(01:43:50):
of at Omaha Beach finished in second third to him
and went on through the first foes by base in
her stands over Spenfry Farm, a two year old and
some of thea by Basin won one hundred thousand dollars
hour Sorority Stakes at Perimeter and Mystic dan By. Golden
Cents won the Grade two five hundred thousand dollars Lucas

(01:44:13):
Classic Stakes at Churchill Towns and much the same style
that he displayed to win the Kentucky Derby last year.
He has now earned four million, eight hundred and nineteen thousand,
one hundred and sixteen dollars. Golden Cens is also the
sy course of Fastano Sunset, one of the Grade one
Madison Stakes this year and of over a million dollars

(01:44:36):
and multiple Grade one win of going to Vegas and
the multiple graded stakes winn to buy My Standards went
over to million, two hundred and ninety four thousand, four
hundred and thirty dollars and the stable made expensive farm
the Breeders Farm. For more on the spencer stands called
Dave of Brian and Mark and Daniel eight five nine
two five four zero zero physical and the website is

(01:44:59):
then dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:45:02):
All right, I get to talk a little bit about
Sally Benn. The cat wants in.

Speaker 5 (01:45:08):
He wants to watch the.

Speaker 3 (01:45:11):
Our cat.

Speaker 2 (01:45:12):
Our cat wants to watch the big race in France
in about twenty minutes. Anyway, I want to talk about
sally horse fans there absolutely the best. I mean, it's
one thing to have all the really top equipment and
all that good stuff, but the other half is to

(01:45:33):
have drivers that are experienced and also horsemen. Has two
parts of that job, and there aren't all that many
people can do both, and that's the truth. So they're
really proud of their drivers at sally Van because they're

(01:45:56):
experienced drivers and their experienced horsemen. That's the winning combination.

Speaker 3 (01:46:02):
Plus the fact that their rigs.

Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
Are in fantastic shape and a yeah, they're just they're
just terrific. I love to see him come down the
road because they drive carefully and nothing's as pretty as
a rig like that.

Speaker 5 (01:46:18):
It's as beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:46:20):
So you going to Pony Club or you're going to
the Breers Cup or whatever you're going to do. Uh,
you know, the person behind the wheels one of the
best in the business. People with sally Van wouldn't have
it any other way. And that's for why oh for
more than half a century Sally Van's two five five

(01:46:44):
nine four oh six fafest way to the Winter Circle.
And you know, I can remember when Betsy was in
Pony Club, the Pierrat kids came in a Sali van.
I mean they have this beautiful van come in and
off would come the little pony and it had a
protection over its ears and all four legs are wrapped

(01:47:08):
and tail was I mean it was adorable.

Speaker 3 (01:47:11):
Was so cute. That's a Peat family is a great family.

Speaker 2 (01:47:14):
Yeah, They're wonderful and they just there's nothing other than
they want to do it the right way.

Speaker 3 (01:47:22):
That's the way they Oh, great grandfather, he was a
great friend of mine. Yeah, pappyid Yeah. And Pappy was
a little restaurant down on that's on the Limasoon Shoe.
He was a trainer, yeah, and pretty good. And all

(01:47:46):
these people would come into his restaurant eat and everything.
You know, he couldn't remember all their names, so he
just called everybody John. Yeah. I was John, Dad was John.
Everybody was John.

Speaker 2 (01:47:59):
Yeah. Yeah, I love that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:48:02):
Yeah, and he was he was a really fun guy.
I spent one oh one, three or four months I
guess he'd gone fishing and stepped on the ground all oh,
broke his ankles. Yeah, and uh I would pick him
up like at five thirty in the morning, Yeah, and

(01:48:24):
we go out to Keenlan and he would train his horses,
and I take him home and I'd go to work.

Speaker 5 (01:48:28):
Oh that's great.

Speaker 3 (01:48:29):
I love it. And I love that old man. He
was so much fun. And it's a great family, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:48:37):
Yeah, they're super nice people.

Speaker 3 (01:48:40):
Yeah, they really are.

Speaker 2 (01:48:42):
I loved his hats and I loved his tides. You
know here, it's just one of a time.

Speaker 3 (01:48:48):
Yeah, he really was. I love it. He trained old
America and we got his picture hanging on the way.

Speaker 2 (01:48:54):
They're all Americans. Yeah, Aleric and the one that you
went MHM had the Blacksmith played the Blacksmith and Alaric
and died.

Speaker 3 (01:49:06):
Brokers show came out there later that day and he
broken his shoulder. Eric, but he was he was out
of a man named Little Chris and Little Chris and
he was by burn Borough and she'd already had Prisin
and uh another I'm having a brain now and two

(01:49:32):
stakes winners. Yeah, and mister Hodgens didn't like him. He
got rid of both of them. I think it was
because American, because American is was Irish. It means naughty boy,
and he lived up to it. Yeah, and uh, hell
they couldn't not only could have get out training, he

(01:49:53):
couldn't get him too the racetrack. He gave him the
day they'd like him. Dad took him down and Jaamin
Canning turned him loose with three old work horses down there,
left him out there and left in November and snow
was flying and everything, you know, the old workhorses and
beat the hell out of him. He took his trailer

(01:50:15):
down there, and when the trailer was a one horse
Dick Channer's one horse van took that down there, and
he says, out of a horse tore down. Wanted to
get get out of there. I said, getting me out
of here. And he was fine after that. This town
was fine. Mister Hudd and Pathy patched them together. Took

(01:50:38):
him the river downs for his first start. And there
was a couple of people I won't mention their names,
but they were big gamblers. He had something in down
there that the first time started here was Old America
and he's four or four year olds. Never got to
the races. Yeah, he then three quarters and pad Alerican

(01:50:59):
and three quarters and nine and change in one part
you could throw a rock. Yeah, went up to took
him up to to Ohio and he's one. He used
to run his fifteen dollars stakes up there, yeah, and
one several of those there was a Thistledowns And of

(01:51:22):
course Randall Park was right across the street. Randall's gone
lass parking lot. But he came back to Paris, I
mean back to Canland to run in him in the
fall and they put him in against the race that
a Dixanna Philly that was a favorite I can't remember.

(01:51:44):
And American ooka track record that day.

Speaker 2 (01:51:50):
That's fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:51:51):
I love it. Yeah. I remember a friend of mine,
the black famous black Smith. He used to do having
a serious oh.

Speaker 2 (01:52:04):
I know, like to trim him up tight. Huh you
like the trim mayor's up tight.

Speaker 3 (01:52:09):
No, no, no, not him. No. This is a racetrack guy, okay,
and really good when the best he did all he did,
all of Camets Horses and you know Station and all
those ones. But anyway, he was coming out of the
paddock and I was going into bed getting ready to

(01:52:30):
I was going in to look at American and he
was coming out. He came running by me and he
looked at me. Mis says Herschel, this is like a
license to steel, and he was right, okay, Well you
got about four minutes. Yeah, well they I guess they're

(01:52:53):
going to run the pretty This is just me. I'm sneeze.

Speaker 2 (01:53:00):
I don't know. They got a deal going with the
winner of the arc in the winner of this champagne.

Speaker 3 (01:53:06):
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:53:08):
It's on Fox Sports one since I don't bet.

Speaker 3 (01:53:14):
Yeah, well, anyway, anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:53:17):
We could talk about the training center. It's sure is
a great place to train.

Speaker 5 (01:53:23):
Yeah, it is, even we won races.

Speaker 3 (01:53:28):
Even we won races.

Speaker 2 (01:53:31):
No, it really is the nicest people.

Speaker 3 (01:53:35):
We were out there. How many years What was the
number that barn we had, barn eleven?

Speaker 5 (01:53:41):
It really was eighteen.

Speaker 3 (01:53:44):
I forget now how soon we forget because we're kind
of separators up on a little end time there.

Speaker 2 (01:53:51):
Yeah, that was nice. We went up there to check
it because somebody had hired.

Speaker 5 (01:53:55):
Somebody to build that.

Speaker 2 (01:53:56):
Yeah barn and I went up and I loved in
every stall. Right by the stall door was their very
own electric light switch.

Speaker 3 (01:54:08):
Light switch so.

Speaker 2 (01:54:10):
They could turn it all. I said, listen to the commitment.

Speaker 5 (01:54:15):
They don't know how to do this, take it off.

Speaker 3 (01:54:18):
They did. Yeah. I think it was born eleven. Yeah,
the first barn we had when we leased out there.
Remember we got caught in that flood. We called it
the Titanic's and they moved us up the hill up
the Yeah, that's right, and it was originally that was

(01:54:39):
when Spendscrift owned it.

Speaker 2 (01:54:41):
Yeah, we had a little girl work for us, and
she started talking about breaking two horses at once out
of the gate. She was a little off, remember her.

Speaker 3 (01:54:55):
Yes, she hadn't If she wasn't manty, she was going
to be physically.

Speaker 2 (01:54:58):
Yeah, buddy, it's funny. A lot of friends out there.

Speaker 3 (01:55:04):
Yeah, well, it won't be too much longer now. Anyway.
It's a great place to train horses out there. And
if you call them up and ask them a stall,
if they don't have a stall, well I ask go
around and then they'll they'll work with you. They'll work
with you. And sometimes you can just walk through the

(01:55:25):
barn area right and see if somebody's got an extra
couple of stalls or something like that. They got them
up one mile track and a five eighth mile track,
and they got to start and gay, they got official crocker.
They've got grass gallops center back. You got great facilities,
and the best thing about the place the horse. You know,

(01:55:45):
they engrage the horse there, and they've got just nice
people in the great atmosphere. Horses horses love friendly all right,
hats free star rates is very reasonable. Yeah they are.

Speaker 5 (01:56:06):
Yeah, and they're nice big stalls too, They're not junky
little stalls.

Speaker 3 (01:56:14):
We're about to run out of time here. We're waiting
for happy trails, waiting for happy trails.

Speaker 2 (01:56:18):
Then Dale Levin wrote that song.

Speaker 5 (01:56:22):
She did, She sure did a bunch.

Speaker 3 (01:56:25):
Then Rogers, Roy Rogers told that told it. Huh didn't Roy?
Didn't Roy Rogers do that song?

Speaker 5 (01:56:34):
They both said a duet.

Speaker 2 (01:56:37):
Oh Harry coming.

Speaker 3 (01:56:43):
There we go? Now, ain't that happy Trails made? It's
time to say goodbye, Thank you all for listening. To
talk to you next week.

Speaker 4 (01:56:54):
Who cares about the clouds when we're too game?

Speaker 2 (01:57:00):
Us Segas