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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk presented by
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Welcome man, Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony
White along with Jack Pilgrim. No, Larry Larry Vault is
well watching in Maine or something something like that. But
we're coming to you from Clark's Main Street Marcus Studios
in downtown Lexington, Kentucky. Return and refresh and refuel at
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Clark's Pumper Shop. Good morning, Jack Pilgrim.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Well, how buddy, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
It's just you and I today, Manoe mano, and I
will tell you this. I will. I'm gonna almost certainly
guarantee i will have Van House come in to replace
you at ten thirty because Larry Vault is not available.
And I'm gonna if you turn on your radio and
you and I are going to discuss it as well,
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I am gonna convince you that our football team will
go five hundred or better. I'm at I absolutely, I
know absolutely, I am gonna if I do not convince you,
and this is where I will, This is where I
will go with this hoping if I do not convince
you that then Mark Stoops has some problem because I'm
gonna give you all the reasons to believe we should up,
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because up until this point, everybody believe we should. But
I've been looking at others teams. I know some of
the work we've been doing. Zach Calzada has said that
we gotta be we gotta move the chains, gotta we
gotta get the ball out of our hands. We have to.
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He's used some keywords that I've told you for years.
And Bush Hampton, I think understands that the everybody chicks
big Blue Nation, that everybody digs the long ball, like
everybody likes to big play. You know what a white
likes jack three and a half yards to play because
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you know what happened with three and a half yards
to play? You keep moving the choint.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, we've seen plenty of that. What Chris Rodriguez, Benny's now,
I feel.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
You and they were fortunate enough to give us five
or six yards to play, so all I wanted was three.
So those are some of the things we've discussed on
or those are some of the things that was discussed
after yesterday's scrimmage practice. Live for Go. We're gonna have
coach stew On at ten thirty. He kind of discussed
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some of that. The offensive line seems to be better,
We're getting better in a lot of positions, Jack Pilgrim,
and we did have a terrible end of a season
last year. I don't think anybody can be upset with
the first five games was last season. I mean, maybe
the loss to Georgia you could be upset about it,
But to play a championship contender that tight, I think
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there's a lot to take from it. We may have
should have been a little bit more aggressive and went
for a score instead of a twelve thirteen game. We
could have possibly won the game, but the fact that
we were in the slugfest with one of the top
teams in the country shows that we had the Jimmies
and Joe's. But as a season progress, we kind of
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took our foot off the gas and that was history.
But we have gotten better. It seems like we've gotten
better at a lot of positions. Offensive line and maybe
quarterback and a lot of other teams have lost lost
a lot of power, which we're going to talk about today.
So I do think that there's an opportunity for five
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hundred and I want to prove that, and like I said,
I'll give you the reasoning that if we do not,
then you can question Mark Stoops on why didn't you
do X Y Z, because we're going to give you
all the reasons and you still that what's the word
I want to use? Determine that we cannot can to
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have a successful season. And I know Larry Vault was
was gas light last week for the past couple of weeks, but.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I wouldn't say I'm determined for any Like it's not
that I'm sitting here rooting for our failures. Like I'm
a diehard Kentucky fan and I want Kentucky to win
every single football game. And I would be there screaming
and yelling just like everybody listening, just like you would be,
and you know, going to the college football playoff and
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following wherever they go.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I'm that type of fan.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
But it's just the buy in and the you know,
wanting to see it, to believe it, and all those things.
Because again, we were sitting in a similar spot last summer,
hearing similar and again I think they've been very intentional
with how quiet they've been about, you know, building up
hype and trying to set unrealistic expectations, and you know,
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I think Mark Stoops even had a quote yesterday where
he's like, I think my team has done a pretty
good job of just shutting the heck up and letting
their you know, play behind the scenes do the talking
instead of wanting to build kind of this artificial, you know,
reputation for these guys that isn't you know, sustainable when
the season actually starts. So I have appreciated the you know,
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Mark Stoops is just like me in that regard.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Of show me, don't tell me.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
He knows that there's no value in, you know, spouting
out nonsense to the media. So just let the play
do the talking. And I think hearing some of the
early returns from yesterday's scrimmage, I think that's kind of
the vibe is they took care of business, put the
ball in the end zone. You know, I think got
some real good situational stuff done, and the both quarterbacks
look good for the first time, got some QB one
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reps for Cutter Bowley. You know, kind of the going
back to bush Hamden seventy five, twenty five, back and
forth that he said that he would look hope for
with Kyle Zauta getting seventy five percent of the ones
and Cutter getting twenty five percent of those, So I
think we're starting to round in the form a little bit.
Stoop said that the consistency was where he wanted it
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to be.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
After a very.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Inconsistent highs and lows kind of start to fall camp
kind of starting to figure each other out and kind
of get to the vision and the product that we're
looking for.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
So again, good.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Good signs, but I need to see it.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
With my own two eyes.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Against Toledo.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I'm going to convince you, and the listener is going
to be convinced just because I'm going to convince you.
But do you feel last year, before we get into
the details of our schedule and who's on our schedule
and what they have lost and what they are returning,
you'll be surprised, Jack Pilgrim. But I do know last
year there was a lot of optimism with I was optimistic,
and I was rightfully optimistic because our defense was going
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to be so good, and our defense was really good
against a ten win Ole Miss, potential playoff Ole Miss.
They were really good against Georgia, a thirteen point Georgia team,
and then, like I said, the wheels fall off. I thought,
I think they lost motivation or maybe they lost that edge.
Like you said, I think Stoops is back with that
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edge because we had a lot of guys who believe
and get this. Jack somebody puts on Kentucky football jersey.
Now I ain't saying basketball jersey, puts on the Kentucky
football jersey and says, you know what we are Kentucky.
We're just going to walk out here and win this game.
And that's where it got to. So now I think
we're back to the blue collar. But in those first
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couple of games, our defense was going was what I
thought our defense was going to be. I don't know
if it was personalities in the locker room. I don't
know what the situation was, but I get that feel,
the same feel you get that Mark Stoops is back
to we're going to grind. He got guys that's going
to come in and play. It's not about the stars.
You know, some guys on the lower level that wants
to come on to come to the power five, power
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four level and prove themselves wherever. I think last year
we got to the point where some guys thought they
had made it, thought they had NFL potential, thought maybe
that they were better than the university or better than
the SEC, and then when it didn't go the way,
they just stopped playing. But the guys we got now
we're here to prove a point. And I think that
kind of uh echoes and mirrors. But Mark Stoops in
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the Youngstown mentality.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yeah, I think that's and if this is going to work,
that is the motto. That is how we're going to
get back to seven win seasons with upside of nine ten,
you know, flirting with outside of the college football playoff
kind of. You know, that's that is what this program
can be. We've seen it under Mark Stoops, and that's
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what I'm rooting for. Like, I want this to work.
I want things to get back on the right track.
And again, like I think that they are kind of
quietly confident internally about them having the you know, the
just the in the trenches kind of getting that blue collar,
bring your lunch palo to work kind of mentality. I
think they have a lot that stuff and that that
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edge and that again, we have seen Mark Stoops in
this position at his best when he peopled doubt and
people think he's incapable of something. This is when he
kind of steps steps up and rises to the occasion.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
So, you know, the whole it did.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
He didn't like the motivated Mark Stoops kind of memes
and everything that's kind of come from the off season,
but like maybe that's what he needed. Maybe he needed,
you know, to kind of get prodded and jabbed a
little bit to you know, build up that confidence to
throw a haymaker back. Like that's that's how he operates
and how he operates.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
You know, at his best. So I'm hoping So I.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Think that again the early returns, I heard awesome things
reading good things about yesterday's scrimmage, and I'm right there
with you. I'm I'm hopeful that we can get back
to to five hundred or above because I do think
there are some factors at play that could work in
Kentucky's favor with the scheduling and like you said, you know,
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different different teams, but there's there's just a long road
ahead to just make every fan that's listening to the
show just believe that you know that it's you know,
the boy who cried Wolf. It's like you can't just
keep saying speaking good football into existence after you know,
two absolute mediocre years compared to what the talent suggested
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on the team, seven wins back to back and then
kind of the bottom falling out going to four and
eight last year, Like you gotta you gotta get that
buy in back. And I think they're doing a good
job up to this point with you know, twenty days
left until kickoff.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
And I agree with you, and I understand why the
fan base. That's why I want to convince the fan
base that to hold your horses. Because we had the
pieces in place, the guys just stopped showing up. So I,
like you said, if you have on the job, if
someone doesn't show up to work, you know it strange.
Everybody stresses the job. You're gonna lose probably gonna lose
revenue because you don't have enough people, and everybody's gonna
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streights and after a while, people are going to start
quitting if you have to do two people's jobs. So
I don't think the product last year was the problem. Now,
I still give Mark Stoops. I think he does deserve
responsibility for it because he did not make those guys
show up. He did not make those guys push through
and that's where I think things went wrong. So we're
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going to discuss that. And Jack Pilgrim, I don't know.
There was an open note to Lexington Fair County high
school football coaches about I'm going to read it to
us on that everybody's everybody's scrimmage yesterday. It was kind
of like the preseason for high school football and apparently
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people acted the food and there was an open note
to the coaches and it was published on Twitter, and
I kind of want I think sportsmanship was poor. I
tried to reach out to some people that I know
are coaches or that have kids that play on the
team to see with some of the ongoings. But so
it wasn't the isolated incident Jack, It was I guess
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all over Fat County. But there's an open note and
I kind of want to address that and hopefully someone
can call in and tell us was bad because we
have talked to we have talked to the commissioners about
KHSA in general, and it's hard to find refereeing, like
just the oral around high school football has starting to
fall off around here, and just to have an open
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note and then to be published to the public is
it's kind of interesting, Jack, and we probably discussed a
little bit of that. Won't we come back just because
I'm gonna get your take it maybe you have some
insight on it. But if you would like to join
the show eight five nine two eight zero two two
eight seven eight five nine to eight zero cats And
if you were at the scrimmage is yesterday, you can
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fill in the blanks on what occurred at the scrimmage
you were at. We would like to hear from that.
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Speaker 1 (12:57):
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Speaker 2 (13:07):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank, Sonny when the Sports Talk. I'm
Anthony White along with Jack Pilgrim. Stockyards Bank has been
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financial needs. I know, before we went to break Jack Pilgrim,
I kind of threw two different situations. Ron. We're still
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talking to UK football, which is going to be the
crux of the show. But did you hear about the
open note to Lexington High School football coaches? I haven't.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I'm trying to look it up and find it. Do
you have it available to read on the air? I
think listeners will probably enjoy that I do.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
It says open note to all of his high head
football coaches. This being sent solely to the head football coaches,
is not copied to administration and is not copied to
the staff. Yesterday was not our finest hour in our
first scrimmages, but I am confident that this is one
night thing. Hopefully it is a chance to reset. Perhaps
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it was a full moon, perhaps many hot dogs. Perhaps
it hadn't drilled some of the things about sportsmanship into
our team. Because of yesterday, we have a few schools
that will be required to submit available video and situations
and otherwise penalized as a team for things occurred be
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or they will be missing players from a regular season
game one because of the ejections, be missing coaches from
the first two regular season and first two regular season games,
and playing a school issue, paying a school issue fine.
They will be fine for failure to control the team
and the fights that broke out resulted in a scrimmageous ending. Again,
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this is a chance to reset and reiterate. And none
of none of this next list is new yet it
is your responsibility. So it's just the second part is
just reiterating the things that have always been in place.
But because of yesterday, apparently some kids will miss the
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game one, some coaches will miss the first two games.
And apparently some fights broke out. It's not one fight,
and that's what's crazy, is I don't it was just
not one fight, which was crazy. And you know, we
talked to the commissioner a KSA commissioner, and it was
a couple, yeah, maybe two or three years ago where
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they were looking for referees and they say it's hard
to find referees because the fans are being too hostile,
and you know, people's health and families are in jeopardy
through some of these things. But uh, and apparently there
were some fights yesterday. And I live very very close
to Bryan Station High School, so I'm gonna assume it
wasn't there. I didn't hear an uproar, and I didn't
hear police sirens or anything. But uh, yeah, the open
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note seems to seems to reiterate that there's a whole
lot of and then you know one thing about it, Jack,
When you in high school, there's some rivals, Like each
team probably has a cross state, right, but I'm sure
you guys had a rival out of Eastern. But when
you scrimmage somebody, you scrimmage someone, you know, you both
doing each other solid, you both doing each other's justice.
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Like you come help us out, you know, we take
care of each other. You know, dust yourself off and
go home at the end of the day, go watch
the film and see where you need to make adjustments.
So there's really no fuel. You wouldn't you wouldn't make
a preseason scrimmage with your rival. That is, you know,
because you saving your rival for the season, and that's
something that's going It can be fewed. I can understand
if it was a game, but this is just a scrimmage.
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And you got dust up at the scrimmage and and
he said coaches will be ejected. So apparently coaches must
have been throwing fisticals. Yikes.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Yeah, I mean my instinct is, you know, let the
kids play. It's you know, getting I think there's a
you know, start a fall camp, getting ready for the season.
You know, we're just the scrimmages are here. We're just
now kind of getting into the all right, high school
football season is here, and then you know, kids are
wanting to kind of let their emotions out and kind
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of prove themselves. And like, you know, there's a it's
it's football. You know, it's a physical sport, it's a
contact sport. We're gonna you know, get some anger anger
out when the paths start popping. But there's also a
fine line there making sure that it's it's respectful and
you know it doesn't turn into a you know, season
altering thing because that's that you know that that stanks you. You
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want the kids to be able to play and a
lot of these kids that's their last you know hoorah
with graduating as high school seniors and all those things.
So don't don't do anything stupid to ruin your your eligibility.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
You know, if you got to.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Get the some extra own fund almost paths pop and
I get it, but but let's you know, let's keep
it civil in Lexington. We want to see some some
high high level competition that this fall and don't need
in any interruptions because of some nonsense in the summer.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Yeah, I would really have reached out to people. I
haven't got any responses back yet to see exactly what occurred.
But I do think I'm with you. I do think
that you you supposed to get the pads popping. That's
the first time you're going to get somebody who else
is other than your teammate. The part that kind of
concerns me, and I'm assuming little Billy and me may
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or may not play football. You ever played football, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
It's one of those I would love for I love
for my children to play football. But my wife, I
think that what suck. We just watched like the Quarterbacks
on on Netflix, and when all of those high level
quarterbacks making hundreds of millions of dollars in the NFL,
all of them are making their kids play flag football
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and not not playing tackle football because they have gotten
their heads bashed in and don't want the same thing
to happen to their children. It does not give me
a great argument for starting starting my kids in the
tackle football. So we're working on it. We're trying, but
I'm not currently winning the fight. When when I'm pushing
for baby ability, he's growing out to be a a
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good looking like you know, pass rush edge rusher, so
hopefully I can do some convincing.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, that was my point. I said, the coaches being
involved in it. So by the time he becomes maybe
that's going to be the coacher where the coaches are
acting worse than the kids, and you cannot If you
don't say a good example for the kids, then you
don't you don't get you know, the product you want
to get. But I will say this before and I
don't want you to feel bad. I will say this.
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When I talked to Tim Couch a long time ago,
when this son was very very little, he said he
would not allow his son to play football, and I
think it turned into he would not force him or
or want him to play football. But his sons did
wind up actually playing football, so that is fine again.
Joan The show eight five nine to eight zero two
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Speaker 1 (20:22):
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It's broughket to you by Country Boy Brewing Jack Pilgrim.
As I stated on the onset of the show, I'm
gonna do some convincing. I'm gonna dig into you a
little bit. We're gonna try to figure some things out.
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So so hold on to your hat, and I want
to ask you one quick question. Do you know who? What?
A second? Do you know who Jackson Dart is?
Speaker 3 (21:09):
I am familiar.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Do you know who Austin Simmons is?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
I'm familiar.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yep. Austin Simmons is the quarterback that is placing Jackson
Dart that Old Miss, the same Old Miss team we
beat last year. Do you think Austin Simmons, who also
plays baseball, do you think he is a better option
at quarterback than Jackson Dart was the team that we
beat last year down in Oxford.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
I do not see him being a first round pick
in next Springs draft. So no, I do not think so.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
So in that point, and maybe we do not know
what Zach Calzada can do or cutter Bowley, because I'm
hearing that that situation may not although the reps are
distributed disproportionately, maybe Zach or Cutter may or may not
have an advantage over there. Do you think we probably
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improved in that position over an old Miss team that
we beat in Oxford last year with losing Jackson Dark Again,
we talked about.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
It last week, and I know, I think, yes, they
are probably worse off this year than they, you know,
they were last year, And we are better off this
year than we were last year, at least on paper
from what we can tell. But again, we haven't seen
any of these teams play. We haven't seen what Zach
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calls outa looks like wearing a Kentucky jersey. Like there's
so many moving parts on both sides that yes, they
lost a ton, but.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
We lost a ton on paper.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
They had to replace those those guys, We had to
replace those guys. So I just I just have a
really hard time buying into the you know, a obsessing
over one game on the schedule when that was the
one outlier out of many absolute disgraceful performances. So like,
I just yes, I do see a scenario here or
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there where it could be a little bit better than
it was last year, a little bit worse than it
was last year. But it's it's about the full twelve
twelve game sample size, not just one outlier performance from
a year ago.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Oh No, we're not. No, I'm not. I'm not. Just folks,
that's the first SEC game on the schedule. We're going
through the schedule. We're gonna go through the schedule, so
and you won't be here probably for the tail end
of it. No, So I'm not obsessing over that. But
that is because I'm assuming you're gonna I'm assuming I
know how much of a fan you are. I'm assuming
you're giving us Toledo, at least Toledo Eastern Michigan in
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Texas Tech. You're gonna give me those three. I'm assuming
we're playing Texas Tech. I'm Tennessee Tech, Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
The Red Raiders are coming to Tennessee Tech. Man, I
don't we might be foreign eight again. Now, No, yes,
I will. I will give you those three.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yes, Okay, So I'm gonna convince you, and when Van
comes on, We're going to convince the fan base throughout
the show that we're gonna find another three games which
you give you five and like I said, Old Miss
was the first one, and I you don't. I can't
find a whole lot of reason and you can make
it up just because of history. Are you just not
a fan or you just don't believe you can absolutely
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do that? But you know who my competits is the
senior six foot seven, three and fifty pounds offensive tackle. Yep,
I gotcha, he played it. He played at Old Miss
last year on that same Old Miss team we beat
down in Oxford. But now he's playing at Florida State
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because so the senior tackle has transferred out.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Yep, that's a hit, the many hits.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
So I'm gonna continue to do this until I can
convince you that that we're gonna find six wins. So
have I convinced you at this point before go any further?
Have I convinced you at this point that possibly that's
when if you had, if if you were Vegas will
be your or what were your your percentage unless winning
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that game based off of what you know and what
what we discussed thus.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Far forty percent?
Speaker 2 (25:20):
So you still don't think we have the edge to
win at home against a team No, I would not lost.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
It's an edge at all. I think again, I think
there's going to be a mental side of things as
well with Lane Kiffin, who is as petty and vindictive
and just he has that I don't get embarrassed kind
of vibe that he wants to go above and beyond
to return the favor if that, If that happens, and
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I think he is going to pour more from a scheme,
from a game planning, from your preparation standpoint, no matter
who's in that locker room, the guy up top is
still in that locker room, and I think he's gonna
come in looking to make a statement in that game.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yes, so I do.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
I am scared of Lane kiffen in that matchup, no
matter what the person else says.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
And we just have to lay down for them that
that's not what I say. That's not you're saying. Lane
Kiffin is upset and he's gonna come in and do
this as if, as if, as if Florida and uh
Prude and those guys haven't felt like for the past
couple of years which were tied to lose the Kentucky
Let me let me ask you this.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Do you trust Mark Stoops on his coaching a plus
game versus Lane Kiffin at his coaching a plus game.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yes I do. Between those, yes I do. Because their defense,
Oh missus defense last year gave up four point five
yards of play and.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Was not good seven points a game.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
So here's here's where my battle is. My battle is
if you put if, I will put our defense up
against anybody in the country. So if if if it
were a last possession, our defense on the field against
Lane King, I would probably take our defense. If it's
our offense, this year's offense, which I'm with you, I
have no idea what's gonna happen, but our offense against
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their defense, which gives up for if Bush Hampton this
year is gonna do what I think he's gonna do,
just keep moving to change and matriculate the ball down
the field, I take our offense against their poor defense
more than I will take as great as a head
coach as Lane Kiffin and the offensive coordinator and play
caller and tempo guy that Lane Kiffin is. I will
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take Brad White well. I would I would not give
I would not give Lane Kiffin a win over that.
That's my whole point. My point is our defense against
their offense could be a push our defense, our offense
against their defense. I think we win it. That's the
whole point I was making, And I do understand your point,
but I have to disagree with it respectfully.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
All Right, that's fair, but you get where I'm coming from,
where this isn't just laying kiff in on a you know,
any any given Saturday. You know, like there's just so
much more that goes into it for him in this game,
Like you saw how disrespected I don't even not even disrespected,
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But his response to that loss was just like, well,
what are you gonna do when you have Mark Stoops
doing something totally out of the ordinary to pull out
all the stops to beat me? Then yes, congratulations, they
took care of business in Oxford. But like I do
think that he has an emotional pettiness to him that
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if there's ever been a time for him to draw
up you know, trick plays and just exotic, crazy stuff
to go above and beyond to win this game over
many others, especially to kind of set the tone for
the rest of the season for them and what they
hope to be kind of proving people wrong that they
are even going to take a massive step back like
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some are some are projecting them to, Like I think
that is going to be kind of the emotional edge
for us like it was last year with South Carolina.
It's going to be a very similar vibe for them
to say, all right, who are we and how can
we prove that we belong among the best of the best.
They're gonna use Kentucky as an example. That's my concern.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
It's funny you say that because Shane Biemer in South
Carolina was the next team we're gonna talk about. We're
gonna talk, but let's get to the big ass fans hotline.
Because John Short has been waiting. Good morning, John Short,
What do you have for us?
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Nothing too much already for volleyball and soccer and the
football season. Soccer begins this mouth too.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
For Kentucky, it absolutely does.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
On who we're playing. The first thing is we must recognition.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Uh Lipscomb at three pm in volleyball.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
List can't taking all above it? Soccer begin Listen to soccer.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
No, No, we got Ohio State August twenty third at
five pm at Memorial.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Then he gains a high saint Listen, Yeah, and who's
the first thing in soccer.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Oh one second, that's like it at women's soccer, men's soccer,
women's soccer.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Both of them.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Jackson State is August fourteenth, seven point thirty for the women.
Men is Northern Kentucky August sixteenth at seventh.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Win win looe of those games by Tim Biggins in soccer, yep,
I don't think it happened.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
You You have lofty expectations, and you did say you're
waiting for the football season as well, Jack Pilgrim and
Larry Vaught doesn't think it's going to be a successful
football season. What do you think we're gonna go in football?
You're gonna say fifteen to no, But what's the what's
your realistic expectation?
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Listen, I was gonna say every year toil to take it,
actually does it? That's it gonna do? Because I believe
in the playoffs. Take you make the playoffs. I think
Vandon Billet, Georgia Alabama or being the playoffs. Jax sline
being in playoffs. They seek me to see being in
the playoffs. But all the SEC team that's right, why not?
That has been done before and he's to be done.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I got you, I got you? What else? You got
for us.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
That's pretty much about it, because I ain't get there.
I know we're getting ready. I know we're twenty days
way the football season begins.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yes, indeed it's gonna be.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
That'll be great.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Well, we appreciate the call, John Short, you're a great American,
the great American, So Jack Pilgrim back to you. South Carolina,
Shane Biemer and the guys. They put a whooping on
this last year. They put a whooping on this thirty
one six correct, and I hated every second of it.
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And you don't think that, uh do you think that
Sellers is all?
Speaker 4 (32:01):
He was.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Ten or fourteen, one hundred and sixty six yards, two touchdowns.
He was sacked four times, though, and we did not
produce a whole lot of anything. Brock Vandergriff tent three
or ten, no touchdowns, four sacks for him. It was
just a rough day all along. And it's funny because
we talked about Old Miss first and now we're on
South Carolina and now you seem to think that South
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Carolina has our number, as if Mark Stoop's Bush Hamden
and those guys are not going to have us be
looking to seek restribution for these guys. But Old Miss
and Elaine Kiffin is gonna be upset with us, and
they're going to come in and they're not going to
let us beat them again. But we have to lay
down for South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Didn't even you didn't even give me a chance.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
I didn't know before we went into it. You go ahead,
all right, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
I didn't say i'd said I hated every second of
last year's thirty one to six beat down. Of course
everybody did, but I haven't said anything about this one.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Uh No.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
The the level of respect I have for Lane Kiffin
and his coaching ability, I feel the absolute opposite about
Beamer can't stand. I think he's a dork. I think,
uh he is totally overrated. And no, I do not
think Sellers is a heisman. He on that sec Netflix
show that I watched, he was comparing Sellers to Michael
(33:23):
Vick and there's a bunch of absolute non absolute nonsense.
So h No, I think he's corny. I think he's
just the worst. I think I just can't I can't
stand him. So the opposite argument that I had for
Ole Miss about the edge that he that Lane Kiffin
is going to come in with and wanting to make
a statement, it's gonna be the exact opposite for Kentucky.
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I think that is gonna be the pendulum swinging moment
of the season where whatever happens, you know, against against
Ole Miss is what it is. But if you if
you're going to steal a couple of wins to get
back to the promised land of you know, five hundred
or better for our version of promised land next season.
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Obviously that's not the long term expectation or goal, but
for next season, South Carolina I almost view as a
must win, like that's the one that you gotta, like
one of those swing games that if you're gonna inch
back to the territory that you're looking for, you gotta
beat South Carolina. You gotta, you know, figure out how
to you know, get revenge on that one. And it
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doesn't have to be pretty. They could win three nothing.
As long as you have more points than the game
Cocks at the final buzzer, that is a successful trip.
And I think if they're going bowling next season, you
have to beat South Carolina.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Yeah, and I'm with you. I have this the total
different or the total opposite opinion on the South Carolina game,
because I think their defense, if our offense can muster
up just some stability, stay on the field, move the
bar matrico laid down the field. I do. I do
think we have an opportunity because their defense was really good.
I'm not sold on their offense. I'm not sold on Sellers.
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They have transferred running back in so obviously they had
some issues to address on the offensive side of the ball.
But again, as I stated, I put our defense up
against ay its top top teams in the country offensively,
their defense was just so stout last year that I'm
hoping and I'm praying, I got my fingers crossed that
our offense will put up more production this year. And
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I wouldn't be mad if you gave me fifty to
fifty on this South Carolina game. But if you gave
me forty sixty on Old Miss, then I can't see
you giving me that. But we happy here to break Jack,
so we'll concene this conversation after that. You're listening to
Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk on news radio six
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Speaker 1 (35:44):
This is Stockyards Bank Sunday Mornings Sports Talk, presented by
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Speaker 2 (35:52):
WLAP Welcome Back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm
Anthony White along with Jack Pilgrim, talking UK football, looking
over the schedule, seeing where we can find some wins
and seeing what what we feel the advantages are. And
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I found it. I've been convinced on our podcast and
just talking to people, I've been convinced that we could
go five hundred. And if we don't, then I think
we've probably not improved. That we dropped the ball somewhere
in that And that's the case. If you want to
address or blame Mark Stoops, then you can do that.
But I do think we have all the pieces and
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the components in place to at least go five hundred
in this conference. And I'm not saying it's a given,
but as we are talking here on the show, I
do think it's it's a possibility. And Jack, we were
talking about South Carolina. You said, I know you don't
believe in being ory. You don't believe in you think
it's fool's goal with South Carolina has accomplished here in
the past couple of years, but you still never told
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me if you believe that that's the game that we
can we can win or or where we So I
want to keep track of our progress as far as
what you think our record is at that point in
the season.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Give me, give me fifty five percent chance on that one.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
I do.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
I like the little mental edge over us. I think
it's more of a kind of wash in terms of
talent and what you know, the personnel side of things.
I do think it's it's more of a wash because
I'm you know, not as high on on South Carolina as.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Others may be.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
But yeah, I like the mental edge going going to
Kentucky on that one.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
So you got so at this point we still have Toledo,
Eastern Michigan, and uh Tennessee Tech. And between between Old
Miss and South Carolina, you got us win a win
of those because you you it didn't sound like you
gave us Old Miss. But it's sounds like you're giving
up to say age with South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
I think that's fair.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Okay. And the next game we would have and the
SEC will be against Georgia. Carson Beck is not returning
to Georgia, a Georgia team that we lost twelve to thirteen,
Like we lost a very close game. Gunner Stock then
is stepping in at quarterback. The junior quarterback is stepping
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in a quarterback, and they're not really expecting him to
light it up as a past couple quarterbacks have done
at Georgia. But maybe you feel that he has enough power.
Maybe the name Georgia just scares everybody in the Commonwealth
to where Georgia is just gonna beat us just because
that's their name. Yes, I do so we have we
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have no chances. That's and that is because it's in Georgia.
Or you just think we don't have a chance to
compete with Georgia at all, although we had him at
home on the ropes.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
I think we are going to be a very thin
I think this is going to be a high floor,
low low, low ceiling team that will not have the
Jimmys and Joe's to match up with the four and
five stars loaded on Georgia's roster. I think that's just
gonna be a personnel issue. I don't think I think Kentucky,
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you know, I think there's a lot of mutual respect there.
I think Kirby obviously thinks that the world of Mark stoops,
and you know, as we saw last year, you know,
for some reason, it does feel like more often than not.
Obviously a couple years ago it was the outlier that
was a beatdown of all beatdowns, but most seasons of
you know, for an absolute juggernaut powerhouse that doesn't you know,
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lose many games and doesn't have many close games. I
think Kentucky of that bunch does compete the hardest against Georgia.
But I just don't think that that's I don't think
that's gonna be a reality for this upcoming season.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
So at this point, everybody, we are at three and two.
We had three and two five games in the season.
Jack Pilgrim is starting to lean onto the good side.
We still have Texas left, Tennessee, Auburn, Florida, Vanderbilt, and
Louisville to go over. But if you would like to
join the show, you can call in the let's know
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what you think eight five nine to eight zero two
two eight seven eight five nine to eight zero cats
or Also there's some scuttle butck going on about UK
or Lexington football scrimmage yesterday Week negative one zero week zero.
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A lot of scrimmage is won there. Obviously there are
some bad blood or temperatures got high. Fill us in
on some of that information. We'll continue this show after
this year. Listening to Stockyards Bank Sunday morning sports talk
on news radio six thirty WAP
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Welcome man, Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony
White along with Jack Pilgrim. No, Larry Larry Vault is
well watching in Maine or something something like that. But
we're coming to you from Clark's Main Street Marcus Studios
in downtown Lexington, Kentucky. Return and refresh and refuel at
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Clark's Pumper Shop. Good morning, Jack Pilgrim.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Well, how buddy, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
It's just you and I today, Manoe mano, and I
will tell you this. I will. I'm gonna almost certainly
guarantee i will have Van House come in to replace
you at ten thirty because Larry Vault is not available.
And I'm gonna if you turn on your radio and
you and I are going to discuss it as well,
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I am gonna convince you that our football team will
go five hundred or better. I'm at I absolutely, I
know absolutely, I am gonna if I do not convince you,
and this is where I will, This is where I
will go with this hoping if I do not convince
you that then Mark Stoops has some problem because I'm
gonna give you all the reasons to believe we should up,
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because up until this point, everybody believe we should. But
I've been looking at others teams. I know some of
the work we've been doing. Zach Calzada has said that
we gotta be we gotta move the chains, gotta we
gotta get the ball out of our hands. We have to.
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He's used some keywords that I've told you for years.
And Bush Hampton, I think understands that the everybody chicks
big Blue Nation, that everybody digs the long ball, like
everybody likes to big play. You know what a white
likes jack three and a half yards to play because
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you know what happened with three and a half yards
to play? You keep moving the choint.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, we've seen plenty of that. What Chris Rodriguez, Benny's now,
I feel.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
You and they were fortunate enough to give us five
or six yards to play, so all I wanted was three.
So those are some of the things we've discussed on
or those are some of the things that was discussed
after yesterday's scrimmage practice. Live for Go. We're gonna have
coach stew On at ten thirty. He kind of discussed
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some of that. The offensive line seems to be better,
We're getting better in a lot of positions, Jack Pilgrim,
and we did have a terrible end of a season
last year. I don't think anybody can be upset with
the first five games was last season. I mean, maybe
the loss to Georgia you could be upset about it,
But to play a championship contender that tight, I think
(02:56):
there's a lot to take from it. We may have
should have been a little bit more aggressive and went
for a score instead of a twelve thirteen game. We
could have possibly won the game, but the fact that
we were in the slugfest with one of the top
teams in the country shows that we had the Jimmies
and Joe's. But as a season progress, we kind of
(03:19):
took our foot off the gas and that was history.
But we have gotten better. It seems like we've gotten
better at a lot of positions. Offensive line and maybe
quarterback and a lot of other teams have lost lost
a lot of power, which we're going to talk about today.
So I do think that there's an opportunity for five
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hundred and I want to prove that, and like I said,
I'll give you the reasoning that if we do not,
then you can question Mark Stoops on why didn't you
do X Y Z, because we're going to give you
all the reasons and you still that what's the word
I want to use? Determine that we cannot can to
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have a successful season. And I know Larry Vault was
was gas light last week for the past couple of weeks, but.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I wouldn't say I'm determined for any Like it's not
that I'm sitting here rooting for our failures. Like I'm
a diehard Kentucky fan and I want Kentucky to win
every single football game. And I would be there screaming
and yelling just like everybody listening, just like you would be,
and you know, going to the college football playoff and
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following wherever they go.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I'm that type of fan.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
But it's just the buy in and the you know,
wanting to see it, to believe it, and all those things.
Because again, we were sitting in a similar spot last summer,
hearing similar and again I think they've been very intentional
with how quiet they've been about, you know, building up
hype and trying to set unrealistic expectations, and you know,
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I think Mark Stoops even had a quote yesterday where
he's like, I think my team has done a pretty
good job of just shutting the heck up and letting
their you know, play behind the scenes do the talking
instead of wanting to build kind of this artificial, you know,
reputation for these guys that isn't you know, sustainable when
the season actually starts. So I have appreciated the you know,
(05:17):
Mark Stoops is just like me in that regard.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Of show me, don't tell me.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
He knows that there's no value in, you know, spouting
out nonsense to the media. So just let the play
do the talking. And I think hearing some of the
early returns from yesterday's scrimmage, I think that's kind of
the vibe is they took care of business, put the
ball in the end zone. You know, I think got
some real good situational stuff done, and the both quarterbacks
look good for the first time, got some QB one
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reps for Cutter Bowley. You know, kind of the going
back to bush Hamden seventy five, twenty five, back and
forth that he said that he would look hope for
with Kyle Zauta getting seventy five percent of the ones
and Cutter getting twenty five percent of those, So I
think we're starting to round in the form a little bit.
Stoop said that the consistency was where he wanted it
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to be.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
After a very.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Inconsistent highs and lows kind of start to fall camp
kind of starting to figure each other out and kind
of get to the vision and the product that we're
looking for.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
So again, good.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Good signs, but I need to see it.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
With my own two eyes.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Against Toledo.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I'm going to convince you, and the listener is going
to be convinced just because I'm going to convince you.
But do you feel last year, before we get into
the details of our schedule and who's on our schedule
and what they have lost and what they are returning,
you'll be surprised, Jack Pilgrim. But I do know last
year there was a lot of optimism with I was optimistic,
and I was rightfully optimistic because our defense was going
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to be so good, and our defense was really good
against a ten win Ole Miss, potential playoff Ole Miss.
They were really good against Georgia, a thirteen point Georgia team,
and then, like I said, the wheels fall off. I thought,
I think they lost motivation or maybe they lost that edge.
Like you said, I think Stoops is back with that
(07:07):
edge because we had a lot of guys who believe
and get this. Jack somebody puts on Kentucky football jersey.
Now I ain't saying basketball jersey, puts on the Kentucky
football jersey and says, you know what we are Kentucky.
We're just going to walk out here and win this game.
And that's where it got to. So now I think
we're back to the blue collar. But in those first
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couple of games, our defense was going was what I
thought our defense was going to be. I don't know
if it was personalities in the locker room. I don't
know what the situation was, but I get that feel,
the same feel you get that Mark Stoops is back
to we're going to grind. He got guys that's going
to come in and play. It's not about the stars.
You know, some guys on the lower level that wants
to come on to come to the power five, power
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four level and prove themselves wherever. I think last year
we got to the point where some guys thought they
had made it, thought they had NFL potential, thought maybe
that they were better than the university or better than
the SEC, and then when it didn't go the way,
they just stopped playing. But the guys we got now
we're here to prove a point. And I think that
kind of uh echoes and mirrors. But Mark Stoops in
(08:12):
the Youngstown mentality.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yeah, I think that's and if this is going to work,
that is the motto. That is how we're going to
get back to seven win seasons with upside of nine ten,
you know, flirting with outside of the college football playoff
kind of. You know, that's that is what this program
can be. We've seen it under Mark Stoops, and that's
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what I'm rooting for. Like, I want this to work.
I want things to get back on the right track.
And again, like I think that they are kind of
quietly confident internally about them having the you know, the
just the in the trenches kind of getting that blue collar,
bring your lunch palo to work kind of mentality. I
think they have a lot that stuff and that that
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edge and that again, we have seen Mark Stoops in
this position at his best when he peopled doubt and
people think he's incapable of something. This is when he
kind of steps steps up and rises to the occasion.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
So, you know, the whole it did.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
He didn't like the motivated Mark Stoops kind of memes
and everything that's kind of come from the off season,
but like maybe that's what he needed. Maybe he needed,
you know, to kind of get prodded and jabbed a
little bit to you know, build up that confidence to
throw a haymaker back. Like that's that's how he operates
and how he operates.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
You know, at his best. So I'm hoping So I.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Think that again the early returns, I heard awesome things
reading good things about yesterday's scrimmage, and I'm right there
with you. I'm I'm hopeful that we can get back
to to five hundred or above because I do think
there are some factors at play that could work in
Kentucky's favor with the scheduling and like you said, you know,
(09:58):
different different teams, but there's there's just a long road
ahead to just make every fan that's listening to the
show just believe that you know that it's you know,
the boy who cried Wolf. It's like you can't just
keep saying speaking good football into existence after you know,
two absolute mediocre years compared to what the talent suggested
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on the team, seven wins back to back and then
kind of the bottom falling out going to four and
eight last year, Like you gotta you gotta get that
buy in back. And I think they're doing a good
job up to this point with you know, twenty days
left until kickoff.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
And I agree with you, and I understand why the
fan base. That's why I want to convince the fan
base that to hold your horses. Because we had the
pieces in place, the guys just stopped showing up. So I,
like you said, if you have on the job, if
someone doesn't show up to work, you know it strange.
Everybody stresses the job. You're gonna lose probably gonna lose
revenue because you don't have enough people, and everybody's gonna
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streights and after a while, people are going to start
quitting if you have to do two people's jobs. So
I don't think the product last year was the problem. Now,
I still give Mark Stoops. I think he does deserve
responsibility for it because he did not make those guys
show up. He did not make those guys push through
and that's where I think things went wrong. So we're
(11:20):
going to discuss that. And Jack Pilgrim, I don't know.
There was an open note to Lexington Fair County high
school football coaches about I'm going to read it to
us on that everybody's everybody's scrimmage yesterday. It was kind
of like the preseason for high school football and apparently
(11:44):
people acted the food and there was an open note
to the coaches and it was published on Twitter, and
I kind of want I think sportsmanship was poor. I
tried to reach out to some people that I know
are coaches or that have kids that play on the
team to see with some of the ongoings. But so
it wasn't the isolated incident Jack, It was I guess
(12:04):
all over Fat County. But there's an open note and
I kind of want to address that and hopefully someone
can call in and tell us was bad because we
have talked to we have talked to the commissioners about
KHSA in general, and it's hard to find refereeing, like
just the oral around high school football has starting to
fall off around here, and just to have an open
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note and then to be published to the public is
it's kind of interesting, Jack, and we probably discussed a
little bit of that. Won't we come back just because
I'm gonna get your take it maybe you have some
insight on it. But if you would like to join
the show eight five nine two eight zero two two
eight seven eight five nine to eight zero cats And
if you were at the scrimmage is yesterday, you can
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fill in the blanks on what occurred at the scrimmage
you were at. We would like to hear from that.
We will be back after this. You're listening to Stockyards
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Welcome back Stockyards Bank, Sonny when the Sports Talk. I'm
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financial needs. I know, before we went to break Jack Pilgrim,
I kind of threw two different situations. Ron. We're still
(13:31):
talking to UK football, which is going to be the
crux of the show. But did you hear about the
open note to Lexington High School football coaches? I haven't.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I'm trying to look it up and find it. Do
you have it available to read on the air? I
think listeners will probably enjoy that I do.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
It says open note to all of his high head
football coaches. This being sent solely to the head football coaches,
is not copied to administration and is not copied to
the staff. Yesterday was not our finest hour in our
first scrimmages, but I am confident that this is one
night thing. Hopefully it is a chance to reset. Perhaps
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it was a full moon, perhaps many hot dogs. Perhaps
it hadn't drilled some of the things about sportsmanship into
our team. Because of yesterday, we have a few schools
that will be required to submit available video and situations
and otherwise penalized as a team for things occurred be
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or they will be missing players from a regular season
game one because of the ejections, be missing coaches from
the first two regular season and first two regular season games,
and playing a school issue, paying a school issue fine.
They will be fine for failure to control the team
and the fights that broke out resulted in a scrimmageous ending. Again,
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this is a chance to reset and reiterate. And none
of none of this next list is new yet it
is your responsibility. So it's just the second part is
just reiterating the things that have always been in place.
But because of yesterday, apparently some kids will miss the
(15:26):
game one, some coaches will miss the first two games.
And apparently some fights broke out. It's not one fight,
and that's what's crazy, is I don't it was just
not one fight, which was crazy. And you know, we
talked to the commissioner a KSA commissioner, and it was
a couple, yeah, maybe two or three years ago where
(15:48):
they were looking for referees and they say it's hard
to find referees because the fans are being too hostile,
and you know, people's health and families are in jeopardy
through some of these things. But uh, and apparently there
were some fights yesterday. And I live very very close
to Bryan Station High School, so I'm gonna assume it
wasn't there. I didn't hear an uproar, and I didn't
hear police sirens or anything. But uh, yeah, the open
(16:14):
note seems to seems to reiterate that there's a whole
lot of and then you know one thing about it, Jack,
When you in high school, there's some rivals, Like each
team probably has a cross state, right, but I'm sure
you guys had a rival out of Eastern. But when
you scrimmage somebody, you scrimmage someone, you know, you both
doing each other solid, you both doing each other's justice.
(16:36):
Like you come help us out, you know, we take
care of each other. You know, dust yourself off and
go home at the end of the day, go watch
the film and see where you need to make adjustments.
So there's really no fuel. You wouldn't you wouldn't make
a preseason scrimmage with your rival. That is, you know,
because you saving your rival for the season, and that's
something that's going It can be fewed. I can understand
if it was a game, but this is just a scrimmage.
(16:59):
And you got dust up at the scrimmage and and
he said coaches will be ejected. So apparently coaches must
have been throwing fisticals. Yikes.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Yeah, I mean my instinct is, you know, let the
kids play. It's you know, getting I think there's a
you know, start a fall camp, getting ready for the season.
You know, we're just the scrimmages are here. We're just
now kind of getting into the all right, high school
football season is here, and then you know, kids are
wanting to kind of let their emotions out and kind
(17:30):
of prove themselves. And like, you know, there's a it's
it's football. You know, it's a physical sport, it's a
contact sport. We're gonna you know, get some anger anger
out when the paths start popping. But there's also a
fine line there making sure that it's it's respectful and
you know it doesn't turn into a you know, season
altering thing because that's that you know that that stanks you. You
(17:51):
want the kids to be able to play and a
lot of these kids that's their last you know hoorah
with graduating as high school seniors and all those things.
So don't don't do anything stupid to ruin your your eligibility.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
You know, if you got to.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Get the some extra own fund almost paths pop and
I get it, but but let's you know, let's keep
it civil in Lexington. We want to see some some
high high level competition that this fall and don't need
in any interruptions because of some nonsense in the summer.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Yeah, I would really have reached out to people. I
haven't got any responses back yet to see exactly what occurred.
But I do think I'm with you. I do think
that you you supposed to get the pads popping. That's
the first time you're going to get somebody who else
is other than your teammate. The part that kind of
concerns me, and I'm assuming little Billy and me may
(18:40):
or may not play football. You ever played football, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
It's one of those I would love for I love
for my children to play football. But my wife, I
think that what suck. We just watched like the Quarterbacks
on on Netflix, and when all of those high level
quarterbacks making hundreds of millions of dollars in the NFL,
all of them are making their kids play flag football
(19:07):
and not not playing tackle football because they have gotten
their heads bashed in and don't want the same thing
to happen to their children. It does not give me
a great argument for starting starting my kids in the
tackle football. So we're working on it. We're trying, but
I'm not currently winning the fight. When when I'm pushing
for baby ability, he's growing out to be a a
(19:28):
good looking like you know, pass rush edge rusher, so
hopefully I can do some convincing.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, that was my point. I said, the coaches being
involved in it. So by the time he becomes maybe
that's going to be the coacher where the coaches are
acting worse than the kids, and you cannot If you
don't say a good example for the kids, then you
don't you don't get you know, the product you want
to get. But I will say this before and I
don't want you to feel bad. I will say this.
(19:54):
When I talked to Tim Couch a long time ago,
when this son was very very little, he said he
would not allow his son to play football, and I
think it turned into he would not force him or
or want him to play football. But his sons did
wind up actually playing football, so that is fine again.
Joan The show eight five nine to eight zero two
(20:14):
two eight seven eight five nine two eight zero Cats.
We will be back after this year. Listening to Stockyards
Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk on news radio six thirty WLAP.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
This is Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk presented by
the lead Troop Boards Radio Network on six thirty w LAP.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony
White along with Jack Pilgrim. This offer Sunday Morning Sports Talk.
It's broughket to you by Country Boy Brewing Jack Pilgrim.
As I stated on the onset of the show, I'm
gonna do some convincing. I'm gonna dig into you a
little bit. We're gonna try to figure some things out.
(20:54):
So so hold on to your hat, and I want
to ask you one quick question. Do you know who? What?
A second? Do you know who Jackson Dart is?
Speaker 3 (21:09):
I am familiar.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Do you know who Austin Simmons is?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
I'm familiar.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yep. Austin Simmons is the quarterback that is placing Jackson
Dart that Old Miss, the same Old Miss team we
beat last year. Do you think Austin Simmons, who also
plays baseball, do you think he is a better option
at quarterback than Jackson Dart was the team that we
beat last year down in Oxford.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
I do not see him being a first round pick
in next Springs draft. So no, I do not think so.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
So in that point, and maybe we do not know
what Zach Calzada can do or cutter Bowley, because I'm
hearing that that situation may not although the reps are
distributed disproportionately, maybe Zach or Cutter may or may not
have an advantage over there. Do you think we probably
(22:07):
improved in that position over an old Miss team that
we beat in Oxford last year with losing Jackson Dark Again,
we talked about.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
It last week, and I know, I think, yes, they
are probably worse off this year than they, you know,
they were last year, And we are better off this
year than we were last year, at least on paper
from what we can tell. But again, we haven't seen
any of these teams play. We haven't seen what Zach
(22:39):
calls outa looks like wearing a Kentucky jersey. Like there's
so many moving parts on both sides that yes, they
lost a ton, but.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
We lost a ton on paper.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
They had to replace those those guys, We had to
replace those guys. So I just I just have a
really hard time buying into the you know, a obsessing
over one game on the schedule when that was the
one outlier out of many absolute disgraceful performances. So like,
I just yes, I do see a scenario here or
(23:12):
there where it could be a little bit better than
it was last year, a little bit worse than it
was last year. But it's it's about the full twelve
twelve game sample size, not just one outlier performance from
a year ago.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Oh No, we're not. No, I'm not. I'm not. Just folks,
that's the first SEC game on the schedule. We're going
through the schedule. We're gonna go through the schedule, so
and you won't be here probably for the tail end
of it. No, So I'm not obsessing over that. But
that is because I'm assuming you're gonna I'm assuming I
know how much of a fan you are. I'm assuming
you're giving us Toledo, at least Toledo Eastern Michigan in
(23:45):
Texas Tech. You're gonna give me those three. I'm assuming
we're playing Texas Tech. I'm Tennessee Tech, Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
The Red Raiders are coming to Tennessee Tech. Man, I
don't we might be foreign eight again. Now, No, yes,
I will. I will give you those three.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yes, Okay, So I'm gonna convince you, and when Van
comes on, We're going to convince the fan base throughout
the show that we're gonna find another three games which
you give you five and like I said, Old Miss
was the first one, and I you don't. I can't
find a whole lot of reason and you can make
it up just because of history. Are you just not
a fan or you just don't believe you can absolutely
(24:22):
do that? But you know who my competits is the
senior six foot seven, three and fifty pounds offensive tackle. Yep,
I gotcha, he played it. He played at Old Miss
last year on that same Old Miss team we beat
down in Oxford. But now he's playing at Florida State
(24:42):
because so the senior tackle has transferred out.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Yep, that's a hit, the many hits.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
So I'm gonna continue to do this until I can
convince you that that we're gonna find six wins. So
have I convinced you at this point before go any further?
Have I convinced you at this point that possibly that's
when if you had, if if you were Vegas will
be your or what were your your percentage unless winning
(25:11):
that game based off of what you know and what
what we discussed thus.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Far forty percent?
Speaker 2 (25:20):
So you still don't think we have the edge to
win at home against a team No, I would not lost.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
It's an edge at all. I think again, I think
there's going to be a mental side of things as
well with Lane Kiffin, who is as petty and vindictive
and just he has that I don't get embarrassed kind
of vibe that he wants to go above and beyond
to return the favor if that, If that happens, and
(25:47):
I think he is going to pour more from a scheme,
from a game planning, from your preparation standpoint, no matter
who's in that locker room, the guy up top is
still in that locker room, and I think he's gonna
come in looking to make a statement in that game.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yes, so I do.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
I am scared of Lane kiffen in that matchup, no
matter what the person else says.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
And we just have to lay down for them that
that's not what I say. That's not you're saying. Lane
Kiffin is upset and he's gonna come in and do
this as if, as if, as if Florida and uh
Prude and those guys haven't felt like for the past
couple of years which were tied to lose the Kentucky
Let me let me ask you this.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Do you trust Mark Stoops on his coaching a plus
game versus Lane Kiffin at his coaching a plus game.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yes I do. Between those, yes I do. Because their defense,
Oh missus defense last year gave up four point five
yards of play and.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Was not good seven points a game.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
So here's here's where my battle is. My battle is
if you put if, I will put our defense up
against anybody in the country. So if if if it
were a last possession, our defense on the field against
Lane King, I would probably take our defense. If it's
our offense, this year's offense, which I'm with you, I
have no idea what's gonna happen, but our offense against
(27:10):
their defense, which gives up for if Bush Hampton this
year is gonna do what I think he's gonna do,
just keep moving to change and matriculate the ball down
the field, I take our offense against their poor defense
more than I will take as great as a head
coach as Lane Kiffin and the offensive coordinator and play
caller and tempo guy that Lane Kiffin is. I will
(27:33):
take Brad White well. I would I would not give
I would not give Lane Kiffin a win over that.
That's my whole point. My point is our defense against
their offense could be a push our defense, our offense
against their defense. I think we win it. That's the
whole point I was making, And I do understand your point,
but I have to disagree with it respectfully.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
All Right, that's fair, but you get where I'm coming from,
where this isn't just laying kiff in on a you know,
any any given Saturday. You know, like there's just so
much more that goes into it for him in this game,
Like you saw how disrespected I don't even not even disrespected,
(28:16):
But his response to that loss was just like, well,
what are you gonna do when you have Mark Stoops
doing something totally out of the ordinary to pull out
all the stops to beat me? Then yes, congratulations, they
took care of business in Oxford. But like I do
think that he has an emotional pettiness to him that
(28:40):
if there's ever been a time for him to draw
up you know, trick plays and just exotic, crazy stuff
to go above and beyond to win this game over
many others, especially to kind of set the tone for
the rest of the season for them and what they
hope to be kind of proving people wrong that they
are even going to take a massive step back like
(29:02):
some are some are projecting them to, Like I think
that is going to be kind of the emotional edge
for us like it was last year with South Carolina.
It's going to be a very similar vibe for them
to say, all right, who are we and how can
we prove that we belong among the best of the best.
They're gonna use Kentucky as an example. That's my concern.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
It's funny you say that because Shane Biemer in South
Carolina was the next team we're gonna talk about. We're
gonna talk, but let's get to the big ass fans hotline.
Because John Short has been waiting. Good morning, John Short,
What do you have for us?
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Nothing too much already for volleyball and soccer and the
football season. Soccer begins this mouth too.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
For Kentucky, it absolutely does.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
On who we're playing. The first thing is we must recognition.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Uh Lipscomb at three pm in volleyball.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
List can't taking all above it? Soccer begin Listen to soccer.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
No, No, we got Ohio State August twenty third at
five pm at Memorial.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Then he gains a high saint Listen, Yeah, and who's
the first thing in soccer.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Oh one second, that's like it at women's soccer, men's soccer,
women's soccer.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Both of them.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Jackson State is August fourteenth, seven point thirty for the women.
Men is Northern Kentucky August sixteenth at seventh.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Win win looe of those games by Tim Biggins in soccer, yep,
I don't think it happened.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
You You have lofty expectations, and you did say you're
waiting for the football season as well, Jack Pilgrim and
Larry Vaught doesn't think it's going to be a successful
football season. What do you think we're gonna go in football?
You're gonna say fifteen to no, But what's the what's
your realistic expectation?
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Listen, I was gonna say every year toil to take it,
actually does it? That's it gonna do? Because I believe
in the playoffs. Take you make the playoffs. I think
Vandon Billet, Georgia Alabama or being the playoffs. Jax sline
being in playoffs. They seek me to see being in
the playoffs. But all the SEC team that's right, why not?
That has been done before and he's to be done.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I got you, I got you? What else? You got
for us.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
That's pretty much about it, because I ain't get there.
I know we're getting ready. I know we're twenty days
way the football season begins.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yes, indeed it's gonna be.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
That'll be great.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Well, we appreciate the call, John Short, you're a great American,
the great American, So Jack Pilgrim back to you. South Carolina,
Shane Biemer and the guys. They put a whooping on
this last year. They put a whooping on this thirty
one six correct, and I hated every second of it.
(31:57):
And you don't think that, uh do you think that
Sellers is all?
Speaker 4 (32:01):
He was.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Ten or fourteen, one hundred and sixty six yards, two touchdowns.
He was sacked four times, though, and we did not
produce a whole lot of anything. Brock Vandergriff tent three
or ten, no touchdowns, four sacks for him. It was
just a rough day all along. And it's funny because
we talked about Old Miss first and now we're on
South Carolina and now you seem to think that South
(32:26):
Carolina has our number, as if Mark Stoop's Bush Hamden
and those guys are not going to have us be
looking to seek restribution for these guys. But Old Miss
and Elaine Kiffin is gonna be upset with us, and
they're going to come in and they're not going to
let us beat them again. But we have to lay
down for South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Didn't even you didn't even give me a chance.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
I didn't know before we went into it. You go ahead,
all right, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
I didn't say i'd said I hated every second of
last year's thirty one to six beat down. Of course
everybody did, but I haven't said anything about this one.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Uh No.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
The the level of respect I have for Lane Kiffin
and his coaching ability, I feel the absolute opposite about
Beamer can't stand. I think he's a dork. I think,
uh he is totally overrated. And no, I do not
think Sellers is a heisman. He on that sec Netflix
show that I watched, he was comparing Sellers to Michael
(33:23):
Vick and there's a bunch of absolute non absolute nonsense.
So h No, I think he's corny. I think he's
just the worst. I think I just can't I can't
stand him. So the opposite argument that I had for
Ole Miss about the edge that he that Lane Kiffin
is going to come in with and wanting to make
a statement, it's gonna be the exact opposite for Kentucky.
(33:45):
I think that is gonna be the pendulum swinging moment
of the season where whatever happens, you know, against against
Ole Miss is what it is. But if you if
you're going to steal a couple of wins to get
back to the promised land of you know, five hundred
or better for our version of promised land next season.
(34:07):
Obviously that's not the long term expectation or goal, but
for next season, South Carolina I almost view as a
must win, like that's the one that you gotta, like
one of those swing games that if you're gonna inch
back to the territory that you're looking for, you gotta
beat South Carolina. You gotta, you know, figure out how
to you know, get revenge on that one. And it
(34:29):
doesn't have to be pretty. They could win three nothing.
As long as you have more points than the game
Cocks at the final buzzer, that is a successful trip.
And I think if they're going bowling next season, you
have to beat South Carolina.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Yeah, and I'm with you. I have this the total
different or the total opposite opinion on the South Carolina game,
because I think their defense, if our offense can muster
up just some stability, stay on the field, move the
bar matrico laid down the field. I do. I do
think we have an opportunity because their defense was really good.
I'm not sold on their offense. I'm not sold on Sellers.
(35:04):
They have transferred running back in so obviously they had
some issues to address on the offensive side of the ball.
But again, as I stated, I put our defense up
against ay its top top teams in the country offensively,
their defense was just so stout last year that I'm
hoping and I'm praying, I got my fingers crossed that
our offense will put up more production this year. And
(35:27):
I wouldn't be mad if you gave me fifty to
fifty on this South Carolina game. But if you gave
me forty sixty on Old Miss, then I can't see
you giving me that. But we happy here to break Jack,
so we'll concene this conversation after that. You're listening to
Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk on news radio six
thirty WLAP.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
This is Stockyards Bank Sunday Mornings Sports Talk, presented by
the lead Troop Boards Radio Network on six thirty.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
WLAP Welcome Back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm
Anthony White along with Jack Pilgrim, talking UK football, looking
over the schedule, seeing where we can find some wins
and seeing what what we feel the advantages are. And
(36:13):
I found it. I've been convinced on our podcast and
just talking to people, I've been convinced that we could
go five hundred. And if we don't, then I think
we've probably not improved. That we dropped the ball somewhere
in that And that's the case. If you want to
address or blame Mark Stoops, then you can do that.
But I do think we have all the pieces and
(36:33):
the components in place to at least go five hundred
in this conference. And I'm not saying it's a given,
but as we are talking here on the show, I
do think it's it's a possibility. And Jack, we were
talking about South Carolina. You said, I know you don't
believe in being ory. You don't believe in you think
it's fool's goal with South Carolina has accomplished here in
the past couple of years, but you still never told
(36:56):
me if you believe that that's the game that we
can we can win or or where we So I
want to keep track of our progress as far as
what you think our record is at that point in
the season.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Give me, give me fifty five percent chance on that one.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
I do.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
I like the little mental edge over us. I think
it's more of a kind of wash in terms of
talent and what you know, the personnel side of things.
I do think it's it's more of a wash because
I'm you know, not as high on on South Carolina as.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Others may be.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
But yeah, I like the mental edge going going to
Kentucky on that one.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
So you got so at this point we still have Toledo,
Eastern Michigan, and uh Tennessee Tech. And between between Old
Miss and South Carolina, you got us win a win
of those because you you it didn't sound like you
gave us Old Miss. But it's sounds like you're giving
up to say age with South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
I think that's fair.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Okay. And the next game we would have and the
SEC will be against Georgia. Carson Beck is not returning
to Georgia, a Georgia team that we lost twelve to thirteen,
Like we lost a very close game. Gunner Stock then
is stepping in at quarterback. The junior quarterback is stepping
(38:19):
in a quarterback, and they're not really expecting him to
light it up as a past couple quarterbacks have done
at Georgia. But maybe you feel that he has enough power.
Maybe the name Georgia just scares everybody in the Commonwealth
to where Georgia is just gonna beat us just because
that's their name. Yes, I do so we have we
(38:44):
have no chances. That's and that is because it's in Georgia.
Or you just think we don't have a chance to
compete with Georgia at all, although we had him at
home on the ropes.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
I think we are going to be a very thin
I think this is going to be a high floor,
low low, low ceiling team that will not have the
Jimmys and Joe's to match up with the four and
five stars loaded on Georgia's roster. I think that's just
gonna be a personnel issue. I don't think I think Kentucky,
(39:14):
you know, I think there's a lot of mutual respect there.
I think Kirby obviously thinks that the world of Mark stoops,
and you know, as we saw last year, you know,
for some reason, it does feel like more often than not.
Obviously a couple years ago it was the outlier that
was a beatdown of all beatdowns, but most seasons of
you know, for an absolute juggernaut powerhouse that doesn't you know,
(39:40):
lose many games and doesn't have many close games. I
think Kentucky of that bunch does compete the hardest against Georgia.
But I just don't think that that's I don't think
that's gonna be a reality for this upcoming season.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
So at this point, everybody, we are at three and two.
We had three and two five games in the season.
Jack Pilgrim is starting to lean onto the good side.
We still have Texas left, Tennessee, Auburn, Florida, Vanderbilt, and
Louisville to go over. But if you would like to
join the show, you can call in the let's know
(40:13):
what you think eight five nine to eight zero two
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or Also there's some scuttle butck going on about UK
or Lexington football scrimmage yesterday Week negative one zero week zero.
(40:34):
A lot of scrimmage is won there. Obviously there are
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