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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk presented by
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Welcome in Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony
White along with Jack Pilgrim and Larry Vought. Coming to
you from Clark's Main Street Market Studios in downtown Lexington, Kentucky,
Clark's Pump Shop, Return, Refresh and Refuel, Larry Vought, Jack Pilgrim,
(00:30):
Welcome back, Larry Vaught. How was your vacation or whatever
it is you do. I don't consider on vacations. I
think you just take long trips.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
This long trip, that's right. It was wonderful my first
time to be up in that part of the country,
up in Maine and at Kadia National Park. And I
would encourage anyone if you've never been and have a change,
I would definitely encourage you to go one of the
most probably the most scenic spot in the United States
that we have ever been to and really really enjoyed it.
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Nice thing about it being up there in August, what
they considered hot, that was just comfortable compared to what
we've got down here. So it was really really a
pleasant trip. And the food is unbelievably good.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
What was the temperature up there?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Probably mid eighties was the high each day. But there's
a lot of shade, there's a nice breeze that blows,
and there's not near the humidity that there is here,
and at night it would get down in the low
sixties high fifties.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Did you partake in anything interesting that you typically hadn't
because you you a thrill secret. I'm not a thrill seecret.
Just gave me the regular O vanilla ice cream. I
don't eat all the I don't need the carneapologist.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Exactly a thrill seecret. We did go on a well
watching tour which was really nice, sewing abundance of whales
and even got out and lucked down and got into
a school of dolphins with about twenty of them that
the boat or the ship kind of went with for
about a mile and we really enjoyed seeing them. And
there's a lot of really neat trails in Acadia National
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Park that you can enjoy. I will say, like, have
you been to the Great Smoky Mountains National Park and
on their trails that are pretty well marked. When they
say strenuous, it's still bearable in Acadia. Their idea of
marking a trails put a little speck of blue paint
on a rock or a tree whatever, two hundred yards
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and sometimes it's kind of hard. But after the first day,
I figured out I always make sure there was somebody
in front of me on that trail and somebody behind
me on that trail. And if I didn't see somebody
in front and I looked at somebody behind that I
knew I was lost. But there was also an abundance
of like climbing on rocks and stuff to be able
to complete those trails or at a lot of routes.
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And there's even one trail that I got to. I
came here for what it was called, and you went
up about three quarters of a mile, and then to
get in the next half mile, someone said you have
to climb a ladder straight up a cliff. And I
looked at that rascal and thought, now, not at age
seventy three, I might make it up. But I didn't.
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Wasn't looking for that climb back down that ladder, so
I didn't do that one. But it's it's a really
exciting place to do a lot of things. And then
one of the neatest things Anthony in the town of
bar Harbor. There, when low tide comes, it kind of
splits in two different directions. It goes out so far
that you're able to walk across to an island. You
have about a two hour block that you can walk
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across to an island and go up and experience that
island and then walk back before the tide comes back in.
And if you're late, you have to take a water
taxi to get back.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
And that's in main.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
That's in Maine. That's in Bar Harbor, Maine.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
See jack Berry, Maine. Is That's that's your neck of
the woods, ain't it. Ain't that where you like to
support teams, ah that other kind of stuff up in
that region.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
It is. My sister just moved in at u of L.
She went on like a college tour to a bunch
of different areas and went up went up there. Really
thought hard about going up there because it is just
absolutely stunning, is everything. Larry said. I thought very hard
about it. I was kind of secretly rooting for that option.
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I love that she's close, but to give me an
excuse to go up to that beautiful area and see
her in college, but unfortunately she decided to trade out
all of that good stuff for the ugly dirty bird.
So unfortunately not going to be able to experience that.
But I'm very glad that Larry did get to.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
And oh, Jack, just tell us kind of how your
week was going, how your week has been. We haven't
talked a whole lot of basketball. I don't play on
talking a whole lot of basketball today. I am interested
on you and Larry's thoughts on the JMI contract because
as positive as I try to be about UK athletics,
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I won't get to that.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Just how was your weak.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Man and covering basketball house, how are all those things going?
Since we ain't gonna do a whole lot of basketball
talking again today.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Yeah, my week personally was good. Went and took little men.
That's weird saying that now, but both little boys to
the state fair and got to show Billy all the
animals and pigs and donkeys and horses and cows and
just everything. He's just obsessed with animals, so he just
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was losing his mind seeing thousands of them running around
there at the fairground. So that was very fun. I
had some cousins in town and they went to Malibu
Jackson in Louisville and did the little bouncy blow up
things and we're running around crazy and led to the
just the most perfect nap of all time because they
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were just sweaty and gross and just exhausted. So it
was a very relaxing yester because of you know, pouring
everything into the morning and early afternoon for a very relaxing,
stress free late afternoon and evening. So yeah, we're we're
vibes are very good over in the Pilgrim household. On
the basketball front, Yellowvich is in town. Yay about time.
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We've been waiting months and months for the Croatian Sensation
two point zero in Lexington, and he finally made it
this weekend and it just very cool to just kind
of get the full puzzle piece together and we had
that kind of missing. Well, this team isn't at full strength, obviously,
but you're also not even getting all the chemistry and
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bonding and all that stuff over the eight weeks this summer.
It sucked to not have him here for that, but
the rest of the team's coming into twenty first. Some
other players have trickled in already to start fall false semester,
including Jaden Quintons, he's getting a full head start on,
you know, really ramping up the recovery process coming back
from the torn acl So two of the probably the
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biggest piece, his most important pieces for Kentucky with Yellowvich
and Jayden Plainton's are already back on campus. And that's
exactly what I think VbN wants to hear right now
as we kind of you know, push toward number nine.
We already hurt all the summer stuff. Now it's time
to transition into what do we have in those two pieces.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Well, I guess we will talk a little basketball a
little bit because some of those things you said are interesting,
and we do need to see out the team is
forming and that jam my stuff is going to have
to I think some of the basketball will come into play.
But I do want to go back to you talk
about the State Fair, because before we came on air,
our producer had a problem with State Fair, Jack Pilgrim.
(07:37):
Is it a problem to go to the State Fair
and partake in every uh maybe food item available as
well as the the activities, and like you said, you
had livestock there is Is it bad if you if
you're eating a funnel cake and what was it bo
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that people were stuff interface of the saying.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
Thing funnel cakes and pork chop sandwiches and donut donut
cheese burgers. I've never seen such gluttonous behavior in my life.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Is that a problem, Jack Pulgrim? Is that you get
one or two days out of the year that you
can just do that.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
You do it specifically at the fair, knowing that you
are going to be indulging in gluttness behavior. That is,
that is the point. You go there to unleash your
inner disgusting, filthy self and enjoy just some some really
ridiculous things. So it was funny hearing that from him.
He said he got home at one am last night
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dealing with a fair and all the aftermath of all
that and everything. So I Friday morning knocked out a
bunch of work and carved out like a couple hours
lunchtime to take little man to go see the animals
and stuff and be able to time it to where
right when we finished, I'd be able to he'd be
able to fall right back asleep for his nap, and
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I still have the rest of the afternoon to finish
my work. So I thought I timed it perfectly thinking
that midday on a Friday, well, people are gonna be working.
There's no way that it's gonna be packed or anything.
Now it might as well have been a Saturday, Saturday afternoon,
Saturday evening. It was absolutely slammed Friday afternoon and every
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single booth there was a lined waiting for every food
and yeah, all the doughnut burgers, all the just the
absolute Friday oreos nonsense that you could find. It was
just did so many pac of people, you know, traffic
getting in, traffic getting out. I'm like, dude, if it's
a Friday at lunch for all of this stuff, I
couldn't imagine going in the weekend. So you're a better
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man than me.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Bo.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
I couldn't imagine it being even worse than it was
on Friday. But yes, Anthony, I saw all of those things,
and then some.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Larry Wall when I first came into the studio. That
was the first thing. You know, Bo's usually a level
headed guy, use an upbeat guy, but that's the first
thing that Bow brought up. He's extremely negati nancy about
going to the fair and having to see people partaking gluttony.
But I told him, I said, you get, you get
an opportunity to do.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
Things like that.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I guess when the State Fair comes around there maybe
other maybe you feel differently because I know you guys
have a couple of fairs and things back in Danville
and around your area that people, you know, take that
day to let your hair down and do things you
wouldn't normally do. But both came here on ten Now
neither now remind you. Larry, neither Boat or I got
a whole lot of sleep.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
So yeah, I kind of wanted to hear about your
adventure too. But the festivals we have around here, I
don't think match the food that you get at the
State Fair. The festivals we have around here, and what
I would call more normal type food that you would have.
The things that you can eat at the State Fair
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go away out the window.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
For me. I couldn't.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
I don't think I could do that. So but I
can also understand not having much sleep. That had a
couple of those nights because one of the days when
I was up in Maine, one of the things I
forgot to tell you that I did, Anthony, I got
up a little bit before four am one day and
went up to Cadillac Mountain in a kadie in Nasal
Park to watch where you can see the sun rise.
(11:19):
You can see it there for the first earlier than
you can't anywhere on the East Coast, So it's the
first sunrise in the United States. I'm up here, I've
had a lid two hundred of my best friends and
we're watching that sun come up at five point thirty.
But to get there yet, to be able to do,
you have to be there by four thirty.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
So and when I get engaged, That's what I'm gonna do, Larry,
get up at four o'clock in the morning, and as
soon as the sun rises. You know what I'm gonna do,
pop that ring out and I'm gonna say, I'm gonna
be thinking about you the whole time.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
You mean you're not taking her to the State Fair.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
No, I don't like sweets.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
I'm not. There's nothing glutton It's about me. You're not
going to propose with the live stock. No, No, I
don't like animals. You know that, right?
Speaker 6 (12:02):
Oh, it's fun, it's all controlled. I'm drained by the way,
Larry Jack. Just to piggyback on what you said, there
is no timing out the State Fair. It's like Nascar.
You have to commit a day, a whole day to go.
You just can't run on time because things are going
to run over. You're gonna get caught in traffic. There's
so much to do, there is so much to see,
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especially if you stay for the concerts afterwards like I did,
and you still gotta fight traffic and Waterson, which really
wasn't that bad, but you can't time it out. You
just gotta go. You just got to go and get
into it and step right all in and just watch
where you.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Step step right in. That just sounds interesting. That is Bo,
That's Bo Robinson.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
We will when we come back, We're going to talk
about Jaymi has signed a contract with the University of
Kentucky for four hundred and sixty five million dollars for
fifteen years to handle the rights of the marketing, which
they have been doing for years, but now that making
of NIL, so they will be in control of what
players can make, how they make it, who they make
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it with.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
And I find that extremely interesting.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Also, Larry Vault missed last week where we convince some
people that we can go five hundred, at least five
hundred by winning two SEC games and winning the four
out of conference games, or three SEC games and three
out of conference games and still lose a Louisville call in,
let us know a five nine to eight zero two
to eight seven eight five nine to eight zero caps.
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head on over for all their UK financial needs. Jam
I thirty one million dollars per year, Larry Vaught, do
you know that thirty one million dollars per year is
more than the twenty million dollars for the profit sharing,
so that kind of covers the profit sharing and UK
gets eighty percent of the revenue.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Did you know that?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yeah, it's the numbers are so far over my head.
I've got no comprehension. You understand none of it. I hope,
I hope it's all gonna work out. I don't know
how much that's gonna be new money. How much of
that is money that's already being brought in and you
just counted a different way. I also don't know how
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much it's gonna be. It'll limit what folks like Jack
and I do because everything will be shuttled to make
sure that JMI or in house production has the most
access to everything that's going on to UK sports. So
from a purely perspective on what I do, that's what
I wonder about. How much access the will continue to
be for others versus now how all the access will
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be just funneled to somebody directly related to JMI.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
And Larry Vaught.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
It is interesting to me because what I have done
for twenty something years of my life, it is going
to affect that as well.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Just because.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
They control the nil possibilities and directions and sponsors, They
control all that which you and I kind of I
think we have like minds on some of the things
that UK media does are just UK Athletics in general now,
and I love a lot of people who work there,
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but I do think that there are some things that
they do that is not in the best interests of
the invested individuals, which are some Sometimes it's a player,
sometimes it's coaches, and sometimes it's the media and you.
I don't consider myself media because I'm a former player
and there's a there's a little bridge between there where
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I think it kind of gets blurred. The lines get
blurred between me being media and a former player, because
I would take the side of a former player before
I'll take the side of a media But I do
know there's tension between that. But just the whole idea
that Jami gets to decide the NIL branding, I just
think there's a conflict of interest there. But I think,
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like you said, the money is bigger than you and
I know maybe Jack feels differently. And I'm just talking
football because when it comes to basketball now, I'm sure.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
I'm sure we'll have people.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Dennis a call in and want to know how much
is ja am I going to put toward football is
as opposed to basketball. But the whole idea that you
have an entity that's control roll in all your marketing
and money matters, is also invested in the players, like
you can't be impartial. Like you said, there's certain things
that they shouldn't have control over when you're a part
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of the business itself.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Yeah, it's I mean, that's the way as the part
that is I don't understand. I don't know what's going
to happen. Maybe maybe Jack's got a better comprehension, maybe
he spent more time delig into what's going to happen
and not going to happen. But it's an interesting scenario.
I'm hopefully it's going to generate the money for the
university that well, I know it'll Jaimis got to generate
the money because they don't they got to pay them anyway.
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So just be interesting to see what the money is
going to do. And I'm also interested, as you mentioned
the note, how this is going to limit in or
what all the different things they're doing, how that's going
to either expand or limit in. I all opportunities for players.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Jack, I mean, do you have any any more insight?
And I was talking to Bow before we came back
from this break. Now I'm actually right now tirelessly looking
for what the difference is between Club Blue because they
took over Club Blues acts or the Club Blues things,
and maybe they just use they hired Club Blue to
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do it and they're just paying Club Blue. But apparently
the fees have went up higher from with Club Blue
to be a part of Club Blue now that the
fees are high.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Yeah, I think it's kind of one of those deals
where they kind of swallowed Club Blue and they are
now kind of I think the collective, just in the
general senses we have known it over the last several years,
isn't necessarily going away or but it's getting put on
pause while they really addressed this revenue sharing and making
sure they stay in the black and the money is
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where it needs to be. And I think that's the
biggest positive takeaway. Money is not going to be a problem,
The revenue sharing is going to is taken care of,
and they can continue to build up the brand partnerships
and things that have. You know, they've done a really
good job with over the years dealing with you know,
two hundred different brands and things like that. So if
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you're just looking for the positives, it's that money is
going to be there. You don't have to worry about that.
And I think the brand partnerships and the doors opening
to not just them controlling NIL, because these athletes will
still be able to do their own thing. I can
talk a little bit more about it after the break,
but there are bright spots to this. I think the
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JMI president did a good job with Tom leash this
this past week talking about it.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Put a pin in that Jack and we will continue
when we come back.
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Trying to stay on air, talked the bow off air,
and I'm not changing direction, but I do. We were
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talking to Jack was giving us some insight. I do
want to clarify. I guess my statements about I don't
like the idea of being controlled by the people that
you work for. Now, it could be, it could be
perfectly fine, it could be great, Jay Am, I could
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probably and probably produce more money than Independence can do,
Club Blue or just the players could do on their own,
they probably could put more money. Larry or Jack Pilgrim.
Because you were the one speaking, I'm gonna let you
finished in what you were saying. But I do remember,
probably about ten years ago, I was trying to produce
a product.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
There was a.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Product I wanted to produce and I want to use,
and it was because of my former playership. I wanted
to utilize the UK logo. Jack Pergrim, did you have
any idea how much it would have cost me to
use the UK logo on the merchandise I was trying
to produce.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
I know it's not cheap. Yes that KSR unfortunately has
had similar issues over the years doing trying to do
something similar and being toldal we can't do certain things.
So yes, I'm with you. I understand the hassle that it.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Can sometimes be Larry Vaught and Jack Pierrim.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
I believe, not that I want to say it was more,
but I believe it was more than forty nine thousand dollars.
It was more than that, but but so no, I
think the thing can be good. I'm always optimistic about
the thing that UK has going on, but I think
it's kind of a I don't know. You got you
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to be a business person, and as Larry Vaught said
that when you're talking those that type of money, you
got to make bold statements. You got to be I
think you kind of got to be brash and just
straightforward and go for what you what you think you learned.
As Larry Vaught stated, at the end of the day,
there needs to be thirty one million dollars coming to Kentucky,
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period like whether you whether you gain that money, whether
you produce that revenue or not. Kentucky's looking for the
thirty one million dollars a year. But go ahead of
Jack Pilgrim something. You were giving us more insight on
what the contract entails, on what expectation with the deal.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Yeah, I think everybody was when they heard the news,
they immediately had the oh my gosh, we're in a
fifteen year marriage with JMI and what seems like a
constantly moving cycle of pay per play. What Collective's roles
are what revenue sharing is the cost of revenue sharing,
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how much that's going up, And it's just it felt
like a moving target and you're locking yourself into a
marriage where there is isn't a ton of flexibility on
the surface. That's where a lot of those concerns came from,
but when you dig deeper into it. And again, I
thought JMI President Paul Archie did a great job with
Tom Leach the other day in the morning, get an
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interview with him, kind of giving the basic Q and
as what you know, what we should expect and all
those things, and you know, kind of made it clear
that we are just the you know, kind of the middleman.
We're we're the facilitator for what Kentucky already does really
well as a national brand, Like when you talk to uh,
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you know, people around the program that you know, associated
with NIL. Especially the revenue sharing era was a massive
positive for them because it got away from the under
the table pay for play stuff that it just took
the highest bidder to land. When these guys were now
the actual brand relationships they matter, and the Nikes and
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the you know, the big national partnerships that Kentucky already
has that those are the ones that you can kind
of call your own shot and you know, the six
hundred dollars nil go that it has to go through
if it said, you know, a local car dealership or
a couple thousand dollars or whatever. Those deals are the
ones they're monitoring more closely than the bigger Like, hey,
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if Nike says that your brand is worth X number
of dollars, that's for Nike to decide. And that's where
Kentucky has those deep rooted relationships already. So I think
they are just going to be the facilitator. And as
Paul Archie said, you know, it's not his job to
be the general man. Jury's not gonna, you know, do
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the roster management and all that thing. It's going to
be Mark Pope says, this guy, we need this guy.
Here's what his deemed you know value is what kind
of deal can we do to make this thing work?
And he it's jmi's job to kind of put them
in position to maximize on all of the partnerships they
already have. So I think it's it's still tricky. There's
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it's okay to have some pause about it and go, okay,
well we got to be you know, creative and move
forward and progressive with this. We can't just you know,
be complacent just because the money is there. We got
to keep kind of moving the brand forward as well.
But I do think that Kentucky is well positioned with
the things that they've already done together in the relationships
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jam I does have on the national level to make
this a very good thing. So it's still tricky, but
there it can Kentucky can come out on a positive
side on the at the end of this.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Well, love me ask you you made that sound really
well and that gives me a little bit more perspective,
and I do. So it's basically putting everything, bringing everything
together where it's under one umbrella, which we have talked
about that in the show for the past couple of years.
My kind of question just because I have invested interest,
but I have personal relationships with people that so Club
Blue is going to be part of JMI maybe contracting
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or you know, hiring their services to do what they
have been doing. They just control and probably present more
revenue or funding than they had before. But then you
got the w nineteen seventy four collective. Do you think
because we have talked about this on it does all
those people or does some of those things just go
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away because they're not a big enough player, or or
do you think they collaborate with those and subcontracting.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
Yeah, so they're waiting on the Score Act. Congress is
you know, looking looking over the Score Act as a
fallout of the House settlement and kind of deciding if
collectives can still live in this pay for play world.
So it's that part is still TBD. And that's why
you're seeing not just Kentucky, but several other schools across
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that country. Some of them are still moving forward with
their their collectives as if nothing has happened. Kentucky is
I think taking more of a cautious approach where hey,
let's not just keep things moving along and dedicated resources
to something that you know could be better suited combining
combining with JMI. But there is an avenue for if
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things go flip on its head with the Score Act,
that could lead to, you know, Congress basically saying no
pay per play. You know, collectives as they were running before,
can continue to keep running. They're not. They're not you know,
a boarding mission on on Club Blue that is still
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an entity that they could flip the switch and it'd
be right back on, you know, cruising through the waters
the way it had been before. It's just hitting pause
on it more so than than stopping it all together.
That they're just kind of pushing their resources in right
now with you know this, you know the LLC and
obviously with a you know this new JMI agreement, so
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pause not not stopped entirely.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
See Larry Vaught, Does that make you feel any better?
Because again, what we what we were told was that
twenty million dollars that's going to the profit sharing had
to come out of the budget. Now, if you add
thirty one million dollars to your budget, is easier to
pay that twenty millions not having a problem.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Right Well, they're not adding a full thirty one because
how much were they already getting from JMI.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Jack That I don't know, but I do know that
it's a pretty substantial upgrade. I just don't know what
the initially, and I could google it wall you follow
that up, but I don't know off the top of
my head.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yeah, it did like a to ten or I mean
only a ten or twelve million dollars upgrade or something
like that. I mean when you're talking. So I don't know, Anthony,
it would certainly help. I don't know if it balances
that out totally or not. And again, it's also strange
to me. I don't understand any of it, and I
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don't know how players are going to figure it all out.
And also I'm kind of wondering when you're talking about collectives,
what happens over on the women's side where there's not
a whole lot of money come in. Does our buddies
at the w nineteen seventy four collective do they have
to go away? Or can they keep helping sports that
really aren't getting anything out of the pie that Kentucky's
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gonna split up. So I don't know, there's still a
lot to be done. As Jack said and.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Jerry, the entertainment district and the things that you know
that UK Athletics or Champions Blue LLC, whatever we want
to call it. Now, when they've proposed the entertainment district
and the you know, the hotels and restaurants and bars
and things nearby, those don't are not reflected in the
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current four sixty five that is what the current deal is.
And then on top of that, they kind of have
the flexibility to say, all right, what do you need
for this? What do you need for that? It's it's
more of just a long term partnership to say, all right,
if you're going to be our multimedia rights guy, and
you're you're going to be leading our charge of a
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very important you know future with nil and revenue sharings
and all of those things, you know, we need your
help financially to you know, help make that happen. So
you get the four sixty five, But on top of that,
it's the future assets with the you know, entertainment district
and those those things that are going to be so
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valuable to the to you know, the athletics department and
uh constant streams of money and new buckets of money
as as Mitch Barnhardt said said before. So it's it's
not limited to four sixty five. It could be even
above and beyond beyond that with the new the new
assets that they're going to be obtaining.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
See Jack Poop, you're making me feel better. I feel
better al ready. You know it also makes me feel better. Guys,
big Ass says hotline, you know who always comes through
and make us feel better On the Big Ass fans hotline,
John Short, John Short, what do you got for us
this morning?
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Buddy?
Speaker 7 (31:33):
Much ready for ser game today? Because tell you, I
think West Georgia gains.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Tell Us West Georgia SEC, ESPN plus SEC Network plus
though it's that little extra stuff.
Speaker 7 (31:48):
So it's not a Reglar TV.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
No, it's not a regular TV.
Speaker 7 (31:53):
Okay, we will we win today? That fifteen begins in soccer?
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Why not? Oh? Come on Short? You know what, Josh?
Speaker 2 (32:06):
So you've you've been You've been a little bit too
uh too excited these past couple of weeks. Fifteen Larry Vaught?
Can fifteen points happen in soccer?
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Are we that? Are women team that good? Fifteen points?
Speaker 5 (32:19):
Well?
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Tanner Strickland her crew are pretty good. But to win
but fifteen, I don't know. That might be a little
stretch even for John. But we will see. But then
I also read somewhere Anthony that this is the Senior
Day game for the Kentucky team.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
I saw that. Yeah, noon, yeah, and noon they're going
to do the Senior Day Day ceremony.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
How could be Senior Day school hadn't even started, has it?
Speaker 5 (32:40):
It has not?
Speaker 4 (32:41):
You know what? That is a heck?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
The concept do Senior Day at the beginning of the year.
Don't wait till the end of the year. Do that
at the beginning of year, because that way the loss,
wins lost don't matter. Just honored the seniors before the
season starts.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
I've never seen anything quite like. It's a it's a
novel idea.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
It is.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
What else you got for, John Shorten? The men are
going to play on Thursday in Western Michigan. You going
to Kalamazoo.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
Now, I don't think so. When when Down won that
one by Tim Big and that'd be a tough team.
That game be televised too.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Not ESPN plus at five thirty, Yes.
Speaker 7 (33:16):
PM plus. I wish all were televised. On the record
team you have, that'd be a great seal. On these pluses,
that'd be good. Never played the team like a division too,
like Division two or three team, that'd be fine. Only
in the pluses, that'd be fine. This is the Division
one schools were playing.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
You're right, Western Michigan, twenty in the country.
Speaker 7 (33:38):
And then a volleyball team were playing Nebraska on August
thirty one. When we'll sweep then and then we're gonna
beat And I'm ready for their game with completed for
high that'd be a good one too, So I'm ready.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Well we play we play Ohio State on the twenty third.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
When that game, yeah, who will win that one?
Speaker 2 (33:58):
To you, John, We're going to have you call in
more this year because your your numbers have been pretty lofty,
so hopefully you can bring our football team some good luck.
I've been trying to convince people, and I've been convinced
that we can win at least six games, but uh, I.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
Don't know reality. Larry Vaught's back. He was out last week.
That's why I was.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
I think I was so excited, But now Larry vaults back,
I'm starting to temper my expectations and starting to become
more of a pessimist. Thank you for the call, John Short,
You are great America. We appreciate you as always great
American team.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
We will continue to show after this year.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Listening to Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk on news
radio six thirty WLAP, welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning
Sports Talk. I'm Anthony White along with Larry Vaught and
Jack Pilgrim talking all things Kentucky sports. We discuss it all.
We discussed soccer women's soccer, men's soccer. John Short things said,
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we can get double digit wins. We're gonna have to
have John short call back during football season. Maybe can
bring our football team some good luck. But Larry Vaughn,
a team that doesn't need good luck. Is are our skinners. Winners,
they do not need good luck. And they have fan
Day yesterday, which I'm sure you didn't go to because
you sound like you ain't do a whole lot of nothing.
But Larry Vaughdon, next week, next Saturday, at five pm,
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you can go watch and play Ohio State for free.
You don't even have to pay, Larry.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Vaught That's it's a pretty pretty neat thing to be
a fly Before they'll be back in the world colleg Anda.
They've got a lot of big games, will be on
the road or at neutral sites for a few weeks
after that, it'll be a really good chance to go
see them. Had a nice turnout understand for fan Day
and all, which is really good. And again I'm pretty excited.
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I mean, I don't know that they will win the
national championship this year, but if they did, it wouldn't
surprise me.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
But if you win the SEC, are you not favorite
to win the national championship.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
If you win, are you probably?
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Probably? Not?
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Probably?
Speaker 3 (36:06):
If you win the Big Ten, you got a better
chance of being favored. But again, you could be so
dominant in the SEC that.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
You could be.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
But I would still think that overall, the Big Ten
would still be considered a better volleyball conference than Kentucky
other than the SEC.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
But Texas and Kentucky both be ranked in top ten
top five or is top top five lofty or you
say top ten?
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Yeah, definitely, I would think that they will be up there.
So yeah, I think Kentucky easily is top ten, and
if I was ranking, they certainly be higher than that.
But I think Craig's pretty happy with where they are
and what they've got going on, and you've got one
more exhibition match to tune it up. Then they get
right into it.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
So fan days kind of like football or like, yeah,
football did their spring game like this year, but the
year before. They don't keep stats or anything because they
there's really you know, notes on the fan day and
the scrimmage the I guess the white and Blue scrimmage.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
No, I mean they kind of mixed lineups up and change.
You might play for the Blue for a while, you
play for the white for a while. It's just a
change for fans to see the team and for Craig
to maybe just see if somebody plays a little better
in front of a crowd than what they play in
practice or sometimes and you probably had teammates like this
Anthony that maybe don't play as well in front of
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a crowd, that's what they play in practice. So I
think that's just a change, another change for him to
see that like what he'll get to see in the
exhibition match.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
And because it was publicized on social media, and I don't,
you know, I don't want to get everybody all hyped
up or nothing. And I was a little bit hyped
up or whatever. And I know you had a busy
week over in Maine or whatever. But so Molly and
Molly on Sunday morning sports talking is off the table
or is it on the back burner because the season
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is right around the corner.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
It's on the table for next Sunday. They have a
team function where they're all I think out of town
this morning. So but they are on the Molly the
Firm of Molly and Molly Moley. The rest of it
to Molly Tuzzo is scheduled to be in with us
next Sunday morning at eleven o'clock.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
All right, you heard it here first from Larry Vaught,
but you can hear the rest of the show when
we return from their break. You are listening Stockyards Bank
Sunday Morning Sports Talk on news radio six point thirty WLAP.
This is Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk presented by
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w LAP.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Welcome in Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony
White along with Jack Pilgrim and Larry Vought. Coming to
you from Clark's Main Street Market Studios in downtown Lexington, Kentucky,
Clark's Pump Shop, Return, Refresh and Refuel, Larry Vought, Jack Pilgrim,
(00:30):
Welcome back, Larry Vaught. How was your vacation or whatever
it is you do. I don't consider on vacations. I
think you just take long trips.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
This long trip, that's right. It was wonderful my first
time to be up in that part of the country,
up in Maine and at Kadia National Park. And I
would encourage anyone if you've never been and have a change,
I would definitely encourage you to go one of the
most probably the most scenic spot in the United States
that we have ever been to and really really enjoyed it.
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Nice thing about it being up there in August, what
they considered hot, that was just comfortable compared to what
we've got down here. So it was really really a
pleasant trip. And the food is unbelievably good.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
What was the temperature up there?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Probably mid eighties was the high each day. But there's
a lot of shade, there's a nice breeze that blows,
and there's not near the humidity that there is here,
and at night it would get down in the low
sixties high fifties.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Did you partake in anything interesting that you typically hadn't
because you you a thrill secret. I'm not a thrill seecret.
Just gave me the regular O vanilla ice cream. I
don't eat all the I don't need the carneapologist.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Exactly a thrill seecret. We did go on a well
watching tour which was really nice, sewing abundance of whales
and even got out and lucked down and got into
a school of dolphins with about twenty of them that
the boat or the ship kind of went with for
about a mile and we really enjoyed seeing them. And
there's a lot of really neat trails in Acadia National
(02:08):
Park that you can enjoy. I will say, like, have
you been to the Great Smoky Mountains National Park and
on their trails that are pretty well marked. When they
say strenuous, it's still bearable in Acadia. Their idea of
marking a trails put a little speck of blue paint
on a rock or a tree whatever, two hundred yards
(02:30):
and sometimes it's kind of hard. But after the first day,
I figured out I always make sure there was somebody
in front of me on that trail and somebody behind
me on that trail. And if I didn't see somebody
in front and I looked at somebody behind that I
knew I was lost. But there was also an abundance
of like climbing on rocks and stuff to be able
to complete those trails or at a lot of routes.
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And there's even one trail that I got to. I
came here for what it was called, and you went
up about three quarters of a mile, and then to
get in the next half mile, someone said you have
to climb a ladder straight up a cliff. And I
looked at that rascal and thought, now, not at age
seventy three, I might make it up. But I didn't.
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Wasn't looking for that climb back down that ladder, so
I didn't do that one. But it's it's a really
exciting place to do a lot of things. And then
one of the neatest things Anthony in the town of
bar Harbor. There, when low tide comes, it kind of
splits in two different directions. It goes out so far
that you're able to walk across to an island. You
have about a two hour block that you can walk
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across to an island and go up and experience that
island and then walk back before the tide comes back in.
And if you're late, you have to take a water
taxi to get back.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
And that's in main.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
That's in Maine. That's in Bar Harbor, Maine.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
See jack Berry, Maine. Is That's that's your neck of
the woods, ain't it. Ain't that where you like to
support teams, ah that other kind of stuff up in
that region.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
It is. My sister just moved in at u of L.
She went on like a college tour to a bunch
of different areas and went up went up there. Really
thought hard about going up there because it is just
absolutely stunning, is everything. Larry said. I thought very hard
about it. I was kind of secretly rooting for that option.
(04:19):
I love that she's close, but to give me an
excuse to go up to that beautiful area and see
her in college, but unfortunately she decided to trade out
all of that good stuff for the ugly dirty bird.
So unfortunately not going to be able to experience that.
But I'm very glad that Larry did get to.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
And oh, Jack, just tell us kind of how your
week was going, how your week has been. We haven't
talked a whole lot of basketball. I don't play on
talking a whole lot of basketball today. I am interested
on you and Larry's thoughts on the JMI contract because
as positive as I try to be about UK athletics,
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I won't get to that.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Just how was your weak.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Man and covering basketball house, how are all those things going?
Since we ain't gonna do a whole lot of basketball
talking again today.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Yeah, my week personally was good. Went and took little men.
That's weird saying that now, but both little boys to
the state fair and got to show Billy all the
animals and pigs and donkeys and horses and cows and
just everything. He's just obsessed with animals, so he just
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was losing his mind seeing thousands of them running around
there at the fairground. So that was very fun. I
had some cousins in town and they went to Malibu
Jackson in Louisville and did the little bouncy blow up
things and we're running around crazy and led to the
just the most perfect nap of all time because they
(05:54):
were just sweaty and gross and just exhausted. So it
was a very relaxing yester because of you know, pouring
everything into the morning and early afternoon for a very relaxing,
stress free late afternoon and evening. So yeah, we're we're
vibes are very good over in the Pilgrim household. On
the basketball front, Yellowvich is in town. Yay about time.
(06:16):
We've been waiting months and months for the Croatian Sensation
two point zero in Lexington, and he finally made it
this weekend and it just very cool to just kind
of get the full puzzle piece together and we had
that kind of missing. Well, this team isn't at full strength, obviously,
but you're also not even getting all the chemistry and
(06:37):
bonding and all that stuff over the eight weeks this summer.
It sucked to not have him here for that, but
the rest of the team's coming into twenty first. Some
other players have trickled in already to start fall false semester,
including Jaden Quintons, he's getting a full head start on,
you know, really ramping up the recovery process coming back
from the torn acl So two of the probably the
(06:59):
biggest piece, his most important pieces for Kentucky with Yellowvich
and Jayden Plainton's are already back on campus. And that's
exactly what I think VbN wants to hear right now
as we kind of you know, push toward number nine.
We already hurt all the summer stuff. Now it's time
to transition into what do we have in those two pieces.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Well, I guess we will talk a little basketball a
little bit because some of those things you said are interesting,
and we do need to see out the team is
forming and that jam my stuff is going to have
to I think some of the basketball will come into play.
But I do want to go back to you talk
about the State Fair, because before we came on air,
our producer had a problem with State Fair, Jack Pilgrim.
(07:37):
Is it a problem to go to the State Fair
and partake in every uh maybe food item available as
well as the the activities, and like you said, you
had livestock there is Is it bad if you if
you're eating a funnel cake and what was it bo
(07:59):
that people were stuff interface of the saying.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
Thing funnel cakes and pork chop sandwiches and donut donut
cheese burgers. I've never seen such gluttonous behavior in my life.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Is that a problem, Jack Pulgrim? Is that you get
one or two days out of the year that you
can just do that.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
You do it specifically at the fair, knowing that you
are going to be indulging in gluttness behavior. That is,
that is the point. You go there to unleash your
inner disgusting, filthy self and enjoy just some some really
ridiculous things. So it was funny hearing that from him.
He said he got home at one am last night
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dealing with a fair and all the aftermath of all
that and everything. So I Friday morning knocked out a
bunch of work and carved out like a couple hours
lunchtime to take little man to go see the animals
and stuff and be able to time it to where
right when we finished, I'd be able to he'd be
able to fall right back asleep for his nap, and
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I still have the rest of the afternoon to finish
my work. So I thought I timed it perfectly thinking
that midday on a Friday, well, people are gonna be working.
There's no way that it's gonna be packed or anything.
Now it might as well have been a Saturday, Saturday afternoon,
Saturday evening. It was absolutely slammed Friday afternoon and every
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single booth there was a lined waiting for every food
and yeah, all the doughnut burgers, all the just the
absolute Friday oreos nonsense that you could find. It was
just did so many pac of people, you know, traffic
getting in, traffic getting out. I'm like, dude, if it's
a Friday at lunch for all of this stuff, I
couldn't imagine going in the weekend. So you're a better
(09:41):
man than me.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Bo.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
I couldn't imagine it being even worse than it was
on Friday. But yes, Anthony, I saw all of those things,
and then some.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Larry Wall when I first came into the studio. That
was the first thing. You know, Bo's usually a level
headed guy, use an upbeat guy, but that's the first
thing that Bow brought up. He's extremely negati nancy about
going to the fair and having to see people partaking gluttony.
But I told him, I said, you get, you get
an opportunity to do.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
Things like that.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I guess when the State Fair comes around there maybe
other maybe you feel differently because I know you guys
have a couple of fairs and things back in Danville
and around your area that people, you know, take that
day to let your hair down and do things you
wouldn't normally do. But both came here on ten Now
neither now remind you. Larry, neither Boat or I got
a whole lot of sleep.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
So yeah, I kind of wanted to hear about your
adventure too. But the festivals we have around here, I
don't think match the food that you get at the
State Fair. The festivals we have around here, and what
I would call more normal type food that you would have.
The things that you can eat at the State Fair
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go away out the window.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
For me. I couldn't.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
I don't think I could do that. So but I
can also understand not having much sleep. That had a
couple of those nights because one of the days when
I was up in Maine, one of the things I
forgot to tell you that I did, Anthony, I got
up a little bit before four am one day and
went up to Cadillac Mountain in a kadie in Nasal
Park to watch where you can see the sun rise.
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You can see it there for the first earlier than
you can't anywhere on the East Coast, So it's the
first sunrise in the United States. I'm up here, I've
had a lid two hundred of my best friends and
we're watching that sun come up at five point thirty.
But to get there yet, to be able to do,
you have to be there by four thirty.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
So and when I get engaged, That's what I'm gonna do, Larry,
get up at four o'clock in the morning, and as
soon as the sun rises. You know what I'm gonna do,
pop that ring out and I'm gonna say, I'm gonna
be thinking about you the whole time.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
You mean you're not taking her to the State Fair.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
No, I don't like sweets.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
I'm not. There's nothing glutton It's about me. You're not
going to propose with the live stock. No, No, I
don't like animals. You know that, right?
Speaker 6 (12:02):
Oh, it's fun, it's all controlled. I'm drained by the way,
Larry Jack. Just to piggyback on what you said, there
is no timing out the State Fair. It's like Nascar.
You have to commit a day, a whole day to go.
You just can't run on time because things are going
to run over. You're gonna get caught in traffic. There's
so much to do, there is so much to see,
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especially if you stay for the concerts afterwards like I did,
and you still gotta fight traffic and Waterson, which really
wasn't that bad, but you can't time it out. You
just gotta go. You just got to go and get
into it and step right all in and just watch
where you.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Step step right in. That just sounds interesting. That is Bo,
That's Bo Robinson.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
We will when we come back, We're going to talk
about Jaymi has signed a contract with the University of
Kentucky for four hundred and sixty five million dollars for
fifteen years to handle the rights of the marketing, which
they have been doing for years, but now that making
of NIL, so they will be in control of what
players can make, how they make it, who they make
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it with.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
And I find that extremely interesting.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Also, Larry Vault missed last week where we convince some
people that we can go five hundred, at least five
hundred by winning two SEC games and winning the four
out of conference games, or three SEC games and three
out of conference games and still lose a Louisville call in,
let us know a five nine to eight zero two
to eight seven eight five nine to eight zero caps.
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We will continue this conversation when we come back. You're
listening to Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk on news
radio six point thirty W.
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Speaker 2 (13:48):
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(14:10):
head on over for all their UK financial needs. Jam
I thirty one million dollars per year, Larry Vaught, do
you know that thirty one million dollars per year is
more than the twenty million dollars for the profit sharing,
so that kind of covers the profit sharing and UK
gets eighty percent of the revenue.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Did you know that?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yeah, it's the numbers are so far over my head.
I've got no comprehension. You understand none of it. I hope,
I hope it's all gonna work out. I don't know
how much that's gonna be new money. How much of
that is money that's already being brought in and you
just counted a different way. I also don't know how
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much it's gonna be. It'll limit what folks like Jack
and I do because everything will be shuttled to make
sure that JMI or in house production has the most
access to everything that's going on to UK sports. So
from a purely perspective on what I do, that's what
I wonder about. How much access the will continue to
be for others versus now how all the access will
(15:16):
be just funneled to somebody directly related to JMI.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
And Larry Vaught.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
It is interesting to me because what I have done
for twenty something years of my life, it is going
to affect that as well.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Just because.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
They control the nil possibilities and directions and sponsors, They
control all that which you and I kind of I
think we have like minds on some of the things
that UK media does are just UK Athletics in general now,
and I love a lot of people who work there,
(15:54):
but I do think that there are some things that
they do that is not in the best interests of
the invested individuals, which are some Sometimes it's a player,
sometimes it's coaches, and sometimes it's the media and you.
I don't consider myself media because I'm a former player
and there's a there's a little bridge between there where
(16:14):
I think it kind of gets blurred. The lines get
blurred between me being media and a former player, because
I would take the side of a former player before
I'll take the side of a media But I do
know there's tension between that. But just the whole idea
that Jami gets to decide the NIL branding, I just
think there's a conflict of interest there. But I think,
(16:38):
like you said, the money is bigger than you and
I know maybe Jack feels differently. And I'm just talking
football because when it comes to basketball now, I'm sure.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
I'm sure we'll have people.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Dennis a call in and want to know how much
is ja am I going to put toward football is
as opposed to basketball. But the whole idea that you
have an entity that's control roll in all your marketing
and money matters, is also invested in the players, like
you can't be impartial. Like you said, there's certain things
that they shouldn't have control over when you're a part
(17:14):
of the business itself.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Yeah, it's I mean, that's the way as the part
that is I don't understand. I don't know what's going
to happen. Maybe maybe Jack's got a better comprehension, maybe
he spent more time delig into what's going to happen
and not going to happen. But it's an interesting scenario.
I'm hopefully it's going to generate the money for the
university that well, I know it'll Jaimis got to generate
the money because they don't they got to pay them anyway.
(17:40):
So just be interesting to see what the money is
going to do. And I'm also interested, as you mentioned
the note, how this is going to limit in or
what all the different things they're doing, how that's going
to either expand or limit in. I all opportunities for players.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Jack, I mean, do you have any any more insight?
And I was talking to Bow before we came back
from this break. Now I'm actually right now tirelessly looking
for what the difference is between Club Blue because they
took over Club Blues acts or the Club Blues things,
and maybe they just use they hired Club Blue to
(18:21):
do it and they're just paying Club Blue. But apparently
the fees have went up higher from with Club Blue
to be a part of Club Blue now that the
fees are high.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Yeah, I think it's kind of one of those deals
where they kind of swallowed Club Blue and they are
now kind of I think the collective, just in the
general senses we have known it over the last several years,
isn't necessarily going away or but it's getting put on
pause while they really addressed this revenue sharing and making
sure they stay in the black and the money is
(18:53):
where it needs to be. And I think that's the
biggest positive takeaway. Money is not going to be a problem,
The revenue sharing is going to is taken care of,
and they can continue to build up the brand partnerships
and things that have. You know, they've done a really
good job with over the years dealing with you know,
two hundred different brands and things like that. So if
(19:14):
you're just looking for the positives, it's that money is
going to be there. You don't have to worry about that.
And I think the brand partnerships and the doors opening
to not just them controlling NIL, because these athletes will
still be able to do their own thing. I can
talk a little bit more about it after the break,
but there are bright spots to this. I think the
(19:36):
JMI president did a good job with Tom leash this
this past week talking about it.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Put a pin in that Jack and we will continue
when we come back.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
You're listening to Stockyards Bank Sunday morn of Sports Talk
on news radio six thirty WLAP.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
This is Stockyards Bank Sunday Mornings Sports Talk presented by
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Speaker 2 (19:59):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony
White along with Larry Vauk and Jack Pilgrim. This our
Sunday morning sports Talks brought to you by Country Boy Brewing.
Trying to stay on air, talked the bow off air,
and I'm not changing direction, but I do. We were
(20:20):
talking to Jack was giving us some insight. I do
want to clarify. I guess my statements about I don't
like the idea of being controlled by the people that
you work for. Now, it could be, it could be
perfectly fine, it could be great, Jay Am, I could
(20:42):
probably and probably produce more money than Independence can do,
Club Blue or just the players could do on their own,
they probably could put more money. Larry or Jack Pilgrim.
Because you were the one speaking, I'm gonna let you
finished in what you were saying. But I do remember,
probably about ten years ago, I was trying to produce
a product.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
There was a.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Product I wanted to produce and I want to use,
and it was because of my former playership. I wanted
to utilize the UK logo. Jack Pergrim, did you have
any idea how much it would have cost me to
use the UK logo on the merchandise I was trying
to produce.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
I know it's not cheap. Yes that KSR unfortunately has
had similar issues over the years doing trying to do
something similar and being toldal we can't do certain things.
So yes, I'm with you. I understand the hassle that it.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Can sometimes be Larry Vaught and Jack Pierrim.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
I believe, not that I want to say it was more,
but I believe it was more than forty nine thousand dollars.
It was more than that, but but so no, I
think the thing can be good. I'm always optimistic about
the thing that UK has going on, but I think
it's kind of a I don't know. You got you
(22:10):
to be a business person, and as Larry Vaught said
that when you're talking those that type of money, you
got to make bold statements. You got to be I
think you kind of got to be brash and just
straightforward and go for what you what you think you learned.
As Larry Vaught stated, at the end of the day,
there needs to be thirty one million dollars coming to Kentucky,
(22:31):
period like whether you whether you gain that money, whether
you produce that revenue or not. Kentucky's looking for the
thirty one million dollars a year. But go ahead of
Jack Pilgrim something. You were giving us more insight on
what the contract entails, on what expectation with the deal.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Yeah, I think everybody was when they heard the news,
they immediately had the oh my gosh, we're in a
fifteen year marriage with JMI and what seems like a
constantly moving cycle of pay per play. What Collective's roles
are what revenue sharing is the cost of revenue sharing,
(23:11):
how much that's going up, And it's just it felt
like a moving target and you're locking yourself into a
marriage where there is isn't a ton of flexibility on
the surface. That's where a lot of those concerns came from,
but when you dig deeper into it. And again, I
thought JMI President Paul Archie did a great job with
Tom Leach the other day in the morning, get an
(23:33):
interview with him, kind of giving the basic Q and
as what you know, what we should expect and all
those things, and you know, kind of made it clear
that we are just the you know, kind of the middleman.
We're we're the facilitator for what Kentucky already does really
well as a national brand, Like when you talk to uh,
(23:54):
you know, people around the program that you know, associated
with NIL. Especially the revenue sharing era was a massive
positive for them because it got away from the under
the table pay for play stuff that it just took
the highest bidder to land. When these guys were now
the actual brand relationships they matter, and the Nikes and
(24:17):
the you know, the big national partnerships that Kentucky already
has that those are the ones that you can kind
of call your own shot and you know, the six
hundred dollars nil go that it has to go through
if it said, you know, a local car dealership or
a couple thousand dollars or whatever. Those deals are the
ones they're monitoring more closely than the bigger Like, hey,
(24:40):
if Nike says that your brand is worth X number
of dollars, that's for Nike to decide. And that's where
Kentucky has those deep rooted relationships already. So I think
they are just going to be the facilitator. And as
Paul Archie said, you know, it's not his job to
be the general man. Jury's not gonna, you know, do
(25:01):
the roster management and all that thing. It's going to
be Mark Pope says, this guy, we need this guy.
Here's what his deemed you know value is what kind
of deal can we do to make this thing work?
And he it's jmi's job to kind of put them
in position to maximize on all of the partnerships they
already have. So I think it's it's still tricky. There's
(25:25):
it's okay to have some pause about it and go, okay,
well we got to be you know, creative and move
forward and progressive with this. We can't just you know,
be complacent just because the money is there. We got
to keep kind of moving the brand forward as well.
But I do think that Kentucky is well positioned with
the things that they've already done together in the relationships
(25:47):
jam I does have on the national level to make
this a very good thing. So it's still tricky, but
there it can Kentucky can come out on a positive
side on the at the end of this.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Well, love me ask you you made that sound really
well and that gives me a little bit more perspective,
and I do. So it's basically putting everything, bringing everything
together where it's under one umbrella, which we have talked
about that in the show for the past couple of years.
My kind of question just because I have invested interest,
but I have personal relationships with people that so Club
Blue is going to be part of JMI maybe contracting
(26:23):
or you know, hiring their services to do what they
have been doing. They just control and probably present more
revenue or funding than they had before. But then you
got the w nineteen seventy four collective. Do you think
because we have talked about this on it does all
those people or does some of those things just go
(26:45):
away because they're not a big enough player, or or
do you think they collaborate with those and subcontracting.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
Yeah, so they're waiting on the Score Act. Congress is
you know, looking looking over the Score Act as a
fallout of the House settlement and kind of deciding if
collectives can still live in this pay for play world.
So it's that part is still TBD. And that's why
you're seeing not just Kentucky, but several other schools across
(27:18):
that country. Some of them are still moving forward with
their their collectives as if nothing has happened. Kentucky is
I think taking more of a cautious approach where hey,
let's not just keep things moving along and dedicated resources
to something that you know could be better suited combining
combining with JMI. But there is an avenue for if
(27:39):
things go flip on its head with the Score Act,
that could lead to, you know, Congress basically saying no
pay per play. You know, collectives as they were running before,
can continue to keep running. They're not. They're not you know,
a boarding mission on on Club Blue that is still
(28:00):
an entity that they could flip the switch and it'd
be right back on, you know, cruising through the waters
the way it had been before. It's just hitting pause
on it more so than than stopping it all together.
That they're just kind of pushing their resources in right
now with you know this, you know the LLC and
obviously with a you know this new JMI agreement, so
(28:24):
pause not not stopped entirely.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
See Larry Vaught, Does that make you feel any better?
Because again, what we what we were told was that
twenty million dollars that's going to the profit sharing had
to come out of the budget. Now, if you add
thirty one million dollars to your budget, is easier to
pay that twenty millions not having a problem.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Right Well, they're not adding a full thirty one because
how much were they already getting from JMI.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Jack That I don't know, but I do know that
it's a pretty substantial upgrade. I just don't know what
the initially, and I could google it wall you follow
that up, but I don't know off the top of
my head.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yeah, it did like a to ten or I mean
only a ten or twelve million dollars upgrade or something
like that. I mean when you're talking. So I don't know, Anthony,
it would certainly help. I don't know if it balances
that out totally or not. And again, it's also strange
to me. I don't understand any of it, and I
(29:27):
don't know how players are going to figure it all out.
And also I'm kind of wondering when you're talking about collectives,
what happens over on the women's side where there's not
a whole lot of money come in. Does our buddies
at the w nineteen seventy four collective do they have
to go away? Or can they keep helping sports that
really aren't getting anything out of the pie that Kentucky's
(29:48):
gonna split up. So I don't know, there's still a
lot to be done. As Jack said and.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Jerry, the entertainment district and the things that you know
that UK Athletics or Champions Blue LLC, whatever we want
to call it. Now, when they've proposed the entertainment district
and the you know, the hotels and restaurants and bars
and things nearby, those don't are not reflected in the
(30:17):
current four sixty five that is what the current deal is.
And then on top of that, they kind of have
the flexibility to say, all right, what do you need
for this? What do you need for that? It's it's
more of just a long term partnership to say, all right,
if you're going to be our multimedia rights guy, and
you're you're going to be leading our charge of a
(30:37):
very important you know future with nil and revenue sharings
and all of those things, you know, we need your
help financially to you know, help make that happen. So
you get the four sixty five, But on top of that,
it's the future assets with the you know, entertainment district
and those those things that are going to be so
(30:59):
valuable to the to you know, the athletics department and
uh constant streams of money and new buckets of money
as as Mitch Barnhardt said said before. So it's it's
not limited to four sixty five. It could be even
above and beyond beyond that with the new the new
assets that they're going to be obtaining.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
See Jack Poop, you're making me feel better. I feel
better al ready. You know it also makes me feel better. Guys,
big Ass says hotline, you know who always comes through
and make us feel better On the Big Ass fans hotline,
John Short, John Short, what do you got for us
this morning?
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Buddy?
Speaker 7 (31:33):
Much ready for ser game today? Because tell you, I
think West Georgia gains.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Tell Us West Georgia SEC, ESPN plus SEC Network plus
though it's that little extra stuff.
Speaker 7 (31:48):
So it's not a Reglar TV.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
No, it's not a regular TV.
Speaker 7 (31:53):
Okay, we will we win today? That fifteen begins in soccer?
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Why not? Oh? Come on Short? You know what, Josh?
Speaker 2 (32:06):
So you've you've been You've been a little bit too
uh too excited these past couple of weeks. Fifteen Larry Vaught?
Can fifteen points happen in soccer?
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Are we that? Are women team that good? Fifteen points?
Speaker 5 (32:19):
Well?
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Tanner Strickland her crew are pretty good. But to win
but fifteen, I don't know. That might be a little
stretch even for John. But we will see. But then
I also read somewhere Anthony that this is the Senior
Day game for the Kentucky team.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
I saw that. Yeah, noon, yeah, and noon they're going
to do the Senior Day Day ceremony.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
How could be Senior Day school hadn't even started, has it?
Speaker 5 (32:40):
It has not?
Speaker 4 (32:41):
You know what? That is a heck?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
The concept do Senior Day at the beginning of the year.
Don't wait till the end of the year. Do that
at the beginning of year, because that way the loss,
wins lost don't matter. Just honored the seniors before the
season starts.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
I've never seen anything quite like. It's a it's a
novel idea.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
It is.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
What else you got for, John Shorten? The men are
going to play on Thursday in Western Michigan. You going
to Kalamazoo.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
Now, I don't think so. When when Down won that
one by Tim Big and that'd be a tough team.
That game be televised too.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Not ESPN plus at five thirty, Yes.
Speaker 7 (33:16):
PM plus. I wish all were televised. On the record
team you have, that'd be a great seal. On these pluses,
that'd be good. Never played the team like a division too,
like Division two or three team, that'd be fine. Only
in the pluses, that'd be fine. This is the Division
one schools were playing.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
You're right, Western Michigan, twenty in the country.
Speaker 7 (33:38):
And then a volleyball team were playing Nebraska on August
thirty one. When we'll sweep then and then we're gonna
beat And I'm ready for their game with completed for
high that'd be a good one too, So I'm ready.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Well we play we play Ohio State on the twenty third.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
When that game, yeah, who will win that one?
Speaker 2 (33:58):
To you, John, We're going to have you call in
more this year because your your numbers have been pretty lofty,
so hopefully you can bring our football team some good luck.
I've been trying to convince people, and I've been convinced
that we can win at least six games, but uh, I.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
Don't know reality. Larry Vaught's back. He was out last week.
That's why I was.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
I think I was so excited, But now Larry vaults back,
I'm starting to temper my expectations and starting to become
more of a pessimist. Thank you for the call, John Short,
You are great America. We appreciate you as always great
American team.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
We will continue to show after this year.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Listening to Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk on news
radio six thirty WLAP, welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning
Sports Talk. I'm Anthony White along with Larry Vaught and
Jack Pilgrim talking all things Kentucky sports. We discuss it all.
We discussed soccer women's soccer, men's soccer. John Short things said,
(35:03):
we can get double digit wins. We're gonna have to
have John short call back during football season. Maybe can
bring our football team some good luck. But Larry Vaughn,
a team that doesn't need good luck. Is are our skinners. Winners,
they do not need good luck. And they have fan
Day yesterday, which I'm sure you didn't go to because
you sound like you ain't do a whole lot of nothing.
But Larry Vaughdon, next week, next Saturday, at five pm,
(35:27):
you can go watch and play Ohio State for free.
You don't even have to pay, Larry.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Vaught That's it's a pretty pretty neat thing to be
a fly Before they'll be back in the world colleg Anda.
They've got a lot of big games, will be on
the road or at neutral sites for a few weeks
after that, it'll be a really good chance to go
see them. Had a nice turnout understand for fan Day
and all, which is really good. And again I'm pretty excited.
(35:51):
I mean, I don't know that they will win the
national championship this year, but if they did, it wouldn't
surprise me.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
But if you win the SEC, are you not favorite
to win the national championship.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
If you win, are you probably?
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Probably? Not?
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Probably?
Speaker 3 (36:06):
If you win the Big Ten, you got a better
chance of being favored. But again, you could be so
dominant in the SEC that.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
You could be.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
But I would still think that overall, the Big Ten
would still be considered a better volleyball conference than Kentucky
other than the SEC.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
But Texas and Kentucky both be ranked in top ten
top five or is top top five lofty or you
say top ten?
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Yeah, definitely, I would think that they will be up there.
So yeah, I think Kentucky easily is top ten, and
if I was ranking, they certainly be higher than that.
But I think Craig's pretty happy with where they are
and what they've got going on, and you've got one
more exhibition match to tune it up. Then they get
right into it.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
So fan days kind of like football or like, yeah,
football did their spring game like this year, but the
year before. They don't keep stats or anything because they
there's really you know, notes on the fan day and
the scrimmage the I guess the white and Blue scrimmage.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
No, I mean they kind of mixed lineups up and change.
You might play for the Blue for a while, you
play for the white for a while. It's just a
change for fans to see the team and for Craig
to maybe just see if somebody plays a little better
in front of a crowd than what they play in
practice or sometimes and you probably had teammates like this
Anthony that maybe don't play as well in front of
(37:27):
a crowd, that's what they play in practice. So I
think that's just a change, another change for him to
see that like what he'll get to see in the
exhibition match.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
And because it was publicized on social media, and I don't,
you know, I don't want to get everybody all hyped
up or nothing. And I was a little bit hyped
up or whatever. And I know you had a busy
week over in Maine or whatever. But so Molly and
Molly on Sunday morning sports talking is off the table
or is it on the back burner because the season
(37:55):
is right around the corner.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
It's on the table for next Sunday. They have a
team function where they're all I think out of town
this morning. So but they are on the Molly the
Firm of Molly and Molly Moley. The rest of it
to Molly Tuzzo is scheduled to be in with us
next Sunday morning at eleven o'clock.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
All right, you heard it here first from Larry Vaught,
but you can hear the rest of the show when
we return from their break. You are listening Stockyards Bank
Sunday Morning Sports Talk on news radio six point thirty WLAP.
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