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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk, presented by
the lead troop Boards Radio Network on six point thirty WLAP.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony White,
along with Larry Vaught and producer Bo Robinson, coming to
you from Clark's Main Street Market Studios in downtown Lake Santeen, Kentucky.
Looks like my phone got broke. Uh, Larry Vaught, I
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just want to preface this conversation with I really really
respect you your profession and your opinion and you as
a person. The disrespect that you exude toward our football
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team and just the University of Kentucky in general today.
I understand your reservations and understand why you you. You
don't want to be completely bought into what I'm telling you,
but I'm trying to convince you to do the right thing,
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and you keep fighting against me. Larry Vaudivan, I'm going
to state this, I'm not fighting.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yes, you are, I'm just not at this point. I'm
just not as optimistic as you are.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I'm not really optimistic. I'm rational. I just want you
to be rational. So that's where I think the disrespect comes.
Because I don't think you're being rational. I think you
And this is why I say this, Larry Vat And
we did this all last week, and I've been doing
this for the past couple of weeks, so I'm getting
well versed at reciting some of these things. And just
this week, because I think we're two weeks away from
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game day, everybody keeps bringing up Toledo. All we got
to worry about Toledo, and I again, I repeat, I don't.
I don't think there's any we should be overlooking any teams.
And I think as a player or a teammate that's
been an underdog in a lot of games in my life,
that I understand the whole idea that you might be,
you know, we may be underdog, or or that Toledo
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may be the underdogs and they may feel disrespected and
come out and do something they shouldn't do. I do
know that before we went to break you told me
you were kind of concerned about Toledo because Toledo beat
Mississippi State forty one to seventeen in Starkville last year,
and you you spoke about that, and you also spoke
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that they beat Pittsburgh in Detroit Michigan and Bowl game
forty eight to forty six and six overtimes, right, I
don't don't.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Have any overtime. So was that w They were more
than a touchdown underdog in those games?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
And they uh, and they weren't undefeated. I'm assuming because
only games you speak about are the Mississippi State game
and the Pittsburgh game. So they went undefeated.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
No, I think they love scope for games.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
We're going to have to try to get Larry.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
At this time, hear ago.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
So tell you what, Larry, we are having some issues
trying to make out your reasoning for Kentucky football. So
if you don't mind, I'm gonna call you back. Okay,
all right, hang on, Anthony. That was the best way
I could put it to cover for you.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Man. Oh well, No, I was trying to give him
a break. But I will say once he comes back,
I will I can continue to explain when Larry Vall
pointed out, and everybody keeps pointing out that just Tello
team that beat Mississippi State last year and beat Pittsburgh
last year. They scored forty some points against Misissippi State
and they scored forty some points against Pittsburgh and six overtimes.
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They're definitely not scoring that many points on our defense.
The problem is that no one's pointing out that they
also lost to Buffalo, they lost to Bowling Green, they
lost to Ohio, they lost the Akron. So I guess
what I was trying to explain to Larry. What was
that you point out to Pittsburgh win and Mississippi State win.
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We're good wins. They also scored forty some points, which
they want to do on our defense. But he and
this is why I say, you got to be rational
because you did not point out that they lost the Akron,
they lost Ohio University, they lost to Bowling Green, they
lost to Buffalo. If they didn't score a heck of
a lot of points, they even lost to Western Kentucky.
But I get Western Kentucky some credit because they have
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been sneaky sneaky good these past couple of years. So
just I don't know, I'm billing myself. I'm building myself confidence,
I'm building up I try to build the fan base
confidence that this team is better than what they think
they are. And I think they're better than what we
think they're going to be because they're going to play harder,
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they're going to give more effort. That team last year
was better than a lot of teams in the country.
And not convinced Larry Vault before his phone was breaking
up and he said that we were ninety three. I thought,
I thought we could go nine to three. We could
have went nine to three. We definitely could have went
nine to three. That team gave up. All right, we
have we have Larry. We don't need to hear. We know,
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we don't need to hear. We don't need to hear
Larry Vaught say anything at this point. Come on, no, no,
because because Larry Vats being irrational and I think it's disrespectful.
He's watched enough football. He know that the culture has
changed around here. And I absolutely understand that he's saying
that for him to hear from inside and other people
that you know, the culture needs to rebuild. We are
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rebuilding the culture. So give give him the benefit of
the doubt that we're getting back to because all these
these new parts, we these fifty new players we brought
in from the transfer portal. I think they're hungry and
they don't deserve to be disrespected by what happened last year. Now,
Dion Walker. He should walk around his head down, barring
some of those guys who were on that team last
year who had a lot of upside to him and
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did not compete to that level. They should walk around
their heads down. But these guys that are new because
they came from mid majors do not deserve for Larry
Vaught to be Turntina. They need to worry about They
need to worry about Toledo. Toledo beat Mississippi State last year.
They beat Pittsburgh last year. But I don't know if
you heard or not when you were on break, Larry Vaugh,
but they also you didn't say anything about them losing Akron, Ohio, Bowling, Green, Buffalo,
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Western Kentucky. You ain't say nothing about that. I guess
the forty points they scored on Misissippi State and Pittsburgh
they're gonna do to us.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
I don't know. I mean, I hope you're right about
this team, but I've just came quite jump on the bandwagon.
But like that until I see a little bit more.
Because you can be as hungry as you want, but
you still got to be able to have some talent,
and you've still got to be able to play, and
a lot of these guys we just haven't seen play yet,
so let's see what happens. And I think we've talked
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about before that sometimes when a player transfers from a team,
maybe there was a problem with that player at that team.
Like you said, it's good to get rid of the
transfers that Kentucky did well. And yeah, you're hoping that
all these guys come in and the are the kind
of player you think. But this time of year ago
it sounded great too. Whatever you talk to players, those
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guys that came in last year, they sure sounded hungry,
they sure seen hungry. But when the season started, whatever
it was just didn't click.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
No, sir, And I will tell you this, Larry, but
I told you three years ago that there was going
to be a problem with the transfer a portal. And
I never told you why because I knew the difficulty
I have told you off air. I knew the difficulties
the coaches were having motivating these players, keeping the players engaged,
having to recruit them every year. So that told me
the motivation were leaving those play well. The motivation to
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compete if your only motivation to compete is is money,
or I guess really money because playing time. If your
motivation is money and you get the playing time, you
don't compete. You just hurt the fan base, you hurt
the coaching staff because you can cost the coach their job.
You can get someone hurt. When I told you that
three years ago, that was the main purpose I was
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telling you that that I was concerned that these players
are not going to be motivated. And I had one
player and specific and I don't know if I ever
told you the name that I knew was going to
be difficult to keep, and if we did keep them,
was going to be a dog on headache. And I
think that manifested itself. So no, those guys weren't hungry.
So the statement you just made again further as to
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the disrespect that they did.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Not how do you know these guys here right now
are going to be that different.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I do not know that. I do not know that,
but I know when you're saying they came from schools
when they can when they came from schools. They came
from schools because they may have been overlooked, or they
may have they didn't come to this level or University
of Kentucky saying, well, yeah, this school needs me more
than I need them. No, they need to play in
the SEC and they don't want to be embarrassed. Some
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of the guys we had on that roster last year,
all they wanted to do was make money and they
weren't gonna be embarrassed because they were compensated with the Patcheock.
I'm telling you, I can't tell you I know this
for a certain I'm not gonna tell you I don't
know it for certain.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Was the guys this year aren't playing for free. They
didn't come here and say I don't need any money.
I'm just gonna go come because I wanted to do
all the things you just said. They're all getting paid too.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Why why do you see so you saw Will Levice
dropped from first round to second round, sitting in the
green room all that time. What makes a player drop
from first round to fourth round? Now, if you've seen
players dropping the draft, I mean you've seen Shad or
Sanders dropping it. But what makes a player drop from
first the fourth round?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Larry Vaught, I would say production, okay.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
And that's usually uh usually directly proportional proportionate to your
output effort, right, Okay, So that that's the whole point.
I'm telling you, Larry Vaux, guys stop giving effort. The
same team you saw against oh Miss, the same guys
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you saw against UH Georgia. After a while, I don't
know why they stopped pulling the rope. I have no idea.
And you say, right, I understand you're saying these new
guys might not. I'm telling you, do not disrespect because
you have no reason to think they won't. I had
a reason to think some of those guys last year
who laid down, I had reason to think they would.
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I have no reason to I would not. I would not.
You can't cover going nine and three because no, I
knew they had the ability to lay down. I didn't
know they would.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Oh okay, okay in.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
The first five games, did.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
They South Caline, I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
So whatever, So like you like you, like you've alluded to,
and maybe you know something more, Maybe something happened in
the locker room. I don't know. I don't know. I'm
not certain, like you said, it could have it could
have been tons of things. But I just and I'm
you know, I'm being lighthearted about the disrespect thing. But
if I were a player and I just came to
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the University of Kentucky and I had sports writers saying
that this team's going to be bad because and I
had nothing to do with last year's team. This is
coming from Larry. This is coming from a guy in
nineteen ninety nineteen ninety six was kicked off the football
team and then it came back in ninety seven as
a starting running back.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yeah, and hopefully being picked last in the SEC or
next to last almost every hole that you've seen out there,
hopefully that we'll motivate guys and get them back to
doing some things that maybe they hadn't done before. But
to me, I've still got to see it. And again,
I've talked to some people who I trust and I
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respect their football knowledge, who've had access to seeing practices
at all, who are maybe not quite as optimistic as
you are about this team. So I'm factoring some of
that into what I'm hearing too.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I give you, I give you, just be a little bit,
just cast a little more leniency on some of these
guys that you didn't see play last year. I understand
your question, but I'd just say castle leenency on them.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Well, I mean, I'm nobody. I don't they go twelve
and thirteen or whatever. I'm just saying, if you asked
me to give my opinion, and my honest opinion, that's
what I'm giving you. That I got to wait and
see to know because there's just so many unknowns on
this team that we just still don't know about. I mean,
I'm kind of wondering, Well, let's just talk about running back.
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I mean, they brought in two transfers who are going
to be looks like one and two, and yet to
what the last two weeks and the scrimwhich is they
haven't participated. Now maybe that's the how mummy philosophy, let's
just don't get on hit or whatever. But one of
them is banged up a little bit, and how much
it's a little bit, we don't know. So again, I've
kind of got to seal to see what's going to happen.
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The guys they brought into the offensive line. I mean,
it sounds great on paper, but this time last year
it sounded great on paper too.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Let's put a pin in that. Alvin. I'm sorry, Larry
got me off. Hold on, Alvin. When we've come back,
we will get you, Larry Watt put a pin in
the running back in depth chart conversation. We'll continue this
conversation when we come back. You're listening Stockyards Bank Sunday
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Speaker 1 (13:50):
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Speaker 2 (13:59):
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Debbie downer. But who's not a Debbie downer? It's Alvin.
So Alvin, can you help me out so I don't
have to continue talking to Larry ever since Jack left
to show Larry's Larry's stuck in my crawl?
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Well, I think you want a co host that you
know will have their own point of views and point
out things that might be disagreeable, but in some ways
you both could be right and both have the perspective
that we'll translate on the football field. So it's it's
good that type of engagement opinions, you know, Milord in
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some instances. In some instances, uh, it doesn't. So I
enjoyed both for what the back and forth that you
duds was engaging in. With that said, Anthony, I think
about passing strategies Steet Speare, I think had the fun
done many that a couple of decades or two ago.
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The Houston Cougars had the run and shoot with Davy
Klingle and Andre Ware I believe.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
I think throwing the ball all over the field with
the you know, the receivers that that you would have,
and how Mummy's air raid was a very exciting offensive strategy,
uh you know with you and of course the great
Tim Couch surrounded with Craig East and key O Samford
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and I forget a couple of other uh wide receivers
in the tight end and that type of excitement. Jimmie,
will you know, allow the fans to enjoy your offense
strategy and the defense you know reeling if you will
have you what does sports dods have to do to
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bring a passing game to his offense because seemingly it's
been boring two quarterbacks with O'Leary and McGriff. Last year,
Lewis was a little bit better than those two. Do
you think the passing game where UK football will energize
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the team and energize the fan base?
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Appreciate the call? Alvin? Uh, Bill, hold on, I don't
want to put you up against a break. We're gonna
uh over this round for a second and we will
get you when we come back from the break. But
Larry Vaughtuh, I know I've said the past couple weeks.
You weren't on the show last week, And I don't
know if you remember the Seattle Seahawks and a lot
of a lot of maybe with exception of Patrick Mahomes,
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even Peyton Manning, Tom Brady won games because of defense.
They were just managers. Like Peyton Manning could air it out.
But his last couple of years he won Super Bowl
and those other things because his defense was really good.
And I hear what Alvin is saying. I wonder if
you agree with me for once today that I don't
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think we really need a passing office. I think we
need to move the chains, whether that is you know,
throwing hots off the blitz to get three yards, four yards,
whatever it is. If we get blitzed, don't take the sack,
but know where the blitz is coming from and know
where your opportunity is to move the ball down the field.
I don't because even the air raid that we ran
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was not a deep pass game. Everything was like five,
five to seven yards getting the ball out of his hands,
get a mismatch. Craig Yust could take a five yard hitch,
and there's times he ran faders or posts to the house,
but most of the offense was predicatal and getting the
ball in Craigy's sands five to seven yards down the field,
myself five to seven yards down the field, Quentin McCorry
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kill Samford.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
But so to answer Alvin's question, Larry VOI, I don't
really think that we need to have the offense to
be explosive, to be exciting to the fan base and
to get us wins. I think we just have to
manage the game better on the offensive, society the ball,
keep the keep the chains moving, and not go three
and out so often.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Well, I don't know that I thought Alvan meant you
had to throw at forty yards downfield. I think just
to have any kind of passing game was what he
was meaning. And I think, yeah, if you could consistently,
you know, complete five six eight yard passes, that is fine.
You know, mix in a deep one every now and
then if you get to get the changs. But as
you said, just to pick up first downs. But I
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don't think you can just line up and run it
every time. You're about to be able to throw it
some and throw it effectively. And what they can do
this year that's going to kind of be determage at.
The passing game hasn't been very good the last couple
of years, and you got to be able to throw
it some. Well, i'll take it back, little Leary. I
think was better than what we getting credit for. But
last year you got to be able to throw it some.
You don't have to be able to throw it forty
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times a game, but you got to be able to
the way. You got to be able to complete some.
You can tell it all you are. You got to
be able to complete some, as you said, to move
the chain. So let me rephrase that. They got to
be able to complete some passes this.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Year, and that's what I think. Hopefully album that answered
your question. Like you said, I think if we know
where the pressure is coming from, a lot of times
the past two years that we knew where the pressure
was coming from and we took the hit or took
the loss of yardist. When the pressure comes, get the
ball out of your hands, and those are hot routes.
Just have a scheme where you have outlets when the
pressure is coming. We'll continue this show after this break.
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Speaker 1 (19:52):
This is Stockyards Bank Sunday Mornings Sports Talk, presented by
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Speaker 2 (20:01):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning sports Talk. Come Anthony
White along with Larry Vaught and producer Bo Robinson. This
hour Sunday Morning sports Talks brought to you by country
Boy Brewing Larry Vaught. The biggest fans hot line are
red Hot. I think everybody else is mad at you,
just like I am. But before we go to the
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big ass fans hotline, Larry Vaughugh, I just want you
to know that your beloved Toledo Rockets finish four and
four in the MAC Conference, sixth, sixth in the conference,
and you won't brad whiting them to be scared of them?
All right, Okay, you got that right.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
I love the way you twist words when you want
to make it come out the way you want to do.
That's okay, go a Yeah, I'm big guy, I can
take it.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Hey, Bill, Bill, thanks for holding on the big ass
Fans hot line. Helped me out.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
Help me out, man, I'm sorry. I'm God's gonna be
helping you out too much.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Me.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
A couple of things. Number One, when you're getting paid
the kind of money these nil people are getting paid,
they don't they don't need the protection of an eighteen
year old kids, blah blah blah. If they're getting paid
that kind of money, and you think and know that
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there's an individual player that has has thrown it in
the towel, then they needed to be called.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Out as number one agreed.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
Well, then how come we're not hearing anybody's names.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Oh no, I'm not doing that, not to know, not
if it was your people.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
They're getting paid one hundreds of thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
But there are also human beings though, and also somebody's son.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
Well, I mean pro players, they get criticism by name.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Those are adults, well adults.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
Well, they're getting paid money.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I agree, I agree. What you go ahead? Okay, go ahead, Okay.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
The second thing is I started following Kentucky in nineteen
fifty eight, and so you see patterns over the years. Here,
here's a pattern. This time of the year is about
selling tickets number one, number two. When you got a
team every year tells you how much better the attitude
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is this year than it was last year. You never
hear about the bad attitude the team has during the
current year. It's always next year. So from a leterry's perspective,
I can appreciate the skepticism of these guys are going
to be different. They may be different, but I can
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see why you're skeptical because you've heard it a million times.
They never tell you the attitude today during the current year.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Well, thank you, Bill, Bill.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
I appreciate it, cause I think Larry must have text
you and told you the call. But I honestly I do.
I do. I do appreciate the cause I did. I
don't disagree with you, Bill.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
Okay, all right, you ever got to talk about directions
where she tell you to go.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Thanks, thank you for the cover. Uh no, so no,
I do agree with Bill, but Larry Vaught put all
of our prior conversation aside, and I do understand where
Bill's coming from. Do you think it would be correct
for me to call anyone out by name or do
you think is enough that I can understand that the
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fan base is not happy, but I'm giving them reasoning
on why I think things happen.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
I really have mixed motions about that now, Anthony, because
of the guy's thinking five hundred thousand dollars or a
billion dollars, but he's on nineteen. Yeah, you say he's
just a kid and you don't want to call him out,
But when he's making more than the majority of us
will ever make, then I think when you take that money,
some responsibility comes with it, and that would include that
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when you're not doing what you're supposed to, that you're
going to get called out more than what you would
have if you just were there on a scholarship. So
I think when you have the big dollars involved, comes
a lot more responsibility of what's going to go along
with it, and that you're going to be held a
lot more accountable, where your coaches all the time talk
about being held accountable. So if you want to put
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that money in your bank account, I think you've got
to be accountable if you don't live up to what
you're being paid to do, just like we would be
in any other job. And if you're eighteen, I mean,
that's just going to be a fact of life.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Now.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
If you're going to make that kind of money, you're
going to have to accept that kind of accountability.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I think what if his name was Cody Vaught, would
you feel the same way?
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Yeah, I would if he was making if he was
making more, not made my lifetime, he was making more
in one year than what I was good to money.
I mean, I think when you sign up for this
part of it, that's going to be some of it,
because I mean, you're asking the bills of the world
to contribute more money, to pay more to come to games,
to donate to this and donate to that. But yet
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say well, but yet, don't criticize Kobe Valcozy dropped four
passes and he's only making six hundred thousand dollars this
year because he's only eighteen. We can't expect him to
catch him. Well, when he's making six hundred thousand dollars,
you're going to expect him to catch them.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Let me say one more thing, then we're gonna get
to the phone and see what Tony has for was
I'm going to ask you this then, Larry, But what
if what if at the conclusion of the season that
the player comes across as injured, Now, maybe as an
injury because I have been injured, as we stayed before,
justin Netteger has been injured the whole season. You remember
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a guy named Billy Jack Haskins. Sure he had two
shoulders and one of them didn't work as a quarterback,
and everybody knew that, but that didn't stop him for
putting forth effort. So my point is, so what if?
What if? What if? What if the media was told that, well,
that player that seemed like they may not have been
given effort was hurt the whole season? Is that? Now?
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Do you I think of this day as salaries? You're
going to do just like you do in the NFL.
You're good to have an injury report that you make
that information available.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Okay, I'm saying there's a lot more to it just
than calling somebody out. But and you can feel free
to call out whoever you want to call out. Larry,
I'm telling you I'm not doing it, and I understand
where Bill's coming from. Uh, but I think if you
read between the lines or you ask around, you can
figure out who these people are that may or may
not have been putting forth the effort they should have
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been for whatever reason.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Uh, let me get to the big ass fans hotline,
because hopefully you didn't text Tony two to tell him
to call in and support you total Tony, thanksful holding man,
what you got for us? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (26:59):
I did get Larry's, so go for it, telling them. Well,
what I've got to share with you guys this morning
is I've been a football fan for football first fan
for a while, and it seems like the effort and
how prepared our team is to play has been like
on a study decline over the last three years. And
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I'm more worried about the season. I don't care about
the players or lineup as more as about the coaching staff.
You know, I'm a big soup Sky I've been pulling
for him since the beginning, But can they put together
a program this quickly in the offseason, bringing in fifty
new players while you know, all the colleges are dealing
with the same system, whether it's or paying them or
not paying them. I mean, when they get them the
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field on Saturday, everybody's got to deal with the same rules.
So you know, we got to make it work. And
that's where I'm worried about, is can this staff, you know,
get a team together and get them on the field
and prepared and put out a good effort. I mean,
that's what the fans want to see, and it's just
been too sloppy the last three years and we just
want to see that no moment.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Tony, How would you feel if I speculated, if I
strongly speculated that the concerns you have are concerns that
a lot of people have, concerns that I had, And
my speculation could have been that Mark Stops turned a
blind eye to a lot of things that happened and
which led to what you are witnessing what you call
lack of effort, lack of accountability. But after last season,
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it could have been a gut punch. Maybe that could
have been which led to some dissension between hisself and
big dog. So the things you are saying, maybe I
think came to the forefront because of the fore and
eighth season and the fan base calling for change, and
you're saying, how fast can it be changed? I don't
have a problem with that, But could you subscribe to
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the idea that maybe after last season opened some of
the coaching staff's eyes and possibly the biggest eyes of
the head coach.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
Sure, sure, that's a maybe, But that doesn't mean I'm
not going to be concerned about a lesson, you know,
Toledo in the first game. I have no idea what's
gonna happen when they get on the field, you know,
with this group, I hope it's I hope it's positively maybe.
I hope so. I mean, that's what's what we all
are hoping. But until until we see Smaxuell football against
so money other than other Kentucky players, we'll we'll find out,
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you know, I hope that's the case.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Well, I appreciate the call, Tony, thank you for that. Uh,
Larry Vaught, You've got the fan base kind of round up,
and I think you do know I do not disagree
with you, Bill or Tony's opinion I'm just looking at
from a player's perspective, which I have done for a
long time. On this show is always giving you guys
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a player's perspective, and I try to support the players
as much as I can. But if I'm hearing things
like you said, you're hearing things or from inside the
locker room, outside of the locker room, or just people
who know, and these players aren't like you're saying, not
holding each other accountable or not give an effort, then me,
as a player, I can't. I can't really support you.
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So that's when I make some of the comments I make.
But I do believe a lot of these guys who
you haven't seen play McCallan, dowbtem A lot of these
guys you haven't seen play. I can't with certainty doubt them.
I can't doubt them for any reason. I've been doubted
before and it really really irritates me and it makes
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me play harder, which that's what you're expecting to see.
But as a player, I wouldn't doubt my teammate now
if I see sambagging now, all of a sudden, you know,
we got a whole other issue, which I told you
about on this show a lot of times, there's always
been people on different sides of the ball that would
that would hold the players accountable. And I will say
this also, Larry, that if I feel that some of
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those players with sambagging or not, I'm not gonna say,
sam Bag, I think they gave up at some point.
And you've interviewed guys who said you thought players give
an effort at some point during the season for whatever reason.
I don't know what it is. You also know, just
from being around sports and seeing guys for all these
years on that played at Kentucky, that there's no way
you're gonna line up to somebody knowing they're not giving
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full effort. Now, if you accept that and you can
and you start to do that, or you do that
as well, now it starts to trickle. It becomes contagious,
and it's like I said, it's unhealthy because someone could
get hurt. And it also affects the fan base, coaches
salaries and all those other things. But uh, I think
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that's the biggest thing for me.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Yeah, and I think we're gonna we'll get a chance
to see I mean, I'm one. I think Kentucky will
beat Toledo. I think Kentucky will will win that game.
And because I think I see a rejuvenated Mark Soops,
I think he's probably been I had a bigger thumbprint
on this team. That might be what he had the
last couple of years. Think he's maybe his work ethic
has kind of been uh ramp back up. And I've
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always told you, I've always held Kentucky football handles adversity
better than handle's prosperity. And they were full of prosperity
going into last year. I mean, they couldn't wait to
tell you how good they were, how they were going
to be in the play I mean they weren't even
talking about all they talk about playoffs, which is great
to have big aspirations, but then you can't go out
there and play like they did for most of the
season and do those kind of things. So again, this
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team has said all the right things. I've been around them.
The guys seemed like they're focused in but it's hard
to know what August because I've never heard of any
team say, man, we're going to suck this year. Nobody's
ever just said that, you know that we'll be lucky
to match four and eight. Nobody's going to say that.
So that's why I think, wouldn't you talking like the
Bill and Tony me whereas all kind of on the
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same boat hoping the team's going to be better, but
kind of got to wait and let somebody show it
and prove it to us. And there's a lot of
different pieces. I mean, good guys, when Mark Stoups can't
even tell you right now who thinks his best receivers
are going to be, that's either a really good thing
because you've got fourteen studs that group, or why do
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we not have a number one guy? Why can't we
tell that at Also, it's just a lot of things.
Mark's keeping a lot of stuff really close to his
vest right now. His press conference after the scrimmage yesterday
revealed basically nothing. I mean, probably the most significant information
that he gave out was that Cole Anner, a walk
one receiver from Bull County, was after the year that
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he heard he blew his knee out on a fan
day in that scrimmage. But other than that, he didn't
say much of anything to give anything away good, bad,
or indifferent. And also that tells me he's locked down,
ready to go play. Right now and hopefully his guys
will be the same way.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
And exaid, I don't, I do not disagree with a
lot of things you said, but I won't want to
say one thing before we had to break. I'm gonna
ask you really quickly, one thing before we had to break.
Everything you've heard about David Gusta, is it fair for
him to have the way for you to prove something
to him? And I'm not saying good or bad. And
that's one thing I'm not giving you credit for. You're
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not saying you believe less or more in this team.
You're just saying you don't have a belief. But I'm
just saying everything I'm hearing about David Gusta, I would
like to give him credit at the end. I would.
I will remove the credit if it's warranted. But what
I would want him to say was, well, that defensive line,
we don't know anything about him. He's not gonna That's
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just how I feel. That's kind of how I feel
about this team, all these new guys. I'm giving them
a mulligain, I'm giving them a clean slate.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Well, I'll put it this way, if David Guesta was
playing quarterback, running back, offensive tackle, linebacker. I'd be ready
to go nine and three with Kentuck kickers. But I
think he's got a track record that's very proven out
there with where he was and all the numbers and
everything back him up in a big in a big way.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
So he had a.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
David Gusta at every position that I'd be ready to
go nine and three. Right now.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
That is Larry Vaught. We'll be back to close out
this show. You were listening to Stockyards Back Sunday Morning
Sports Talk on news radio six thirty WLP.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
This is Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk presented by
the lead Troop Barge Radio Network on six thirty w LAP.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk on Anthony
White along with Larry Vaux and producer Bowl Robinson here
talking UK football, getting his bandwagon ribbed up, put a
new alternator on it, got a new transmission put in,
so we were ready to go for this season.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
We gotta get it off the lot. Oh yeah, we
gotta get it out of the garage door first and
then off the lot.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
We're gonna We're gonna test driving next week. We're gonna
test driving next week and we'll be driving it down
the street a week after that. But Larry Vaught bow
Robinson's walking around with the very nice picture of Elvis,
and why is that boat?
Speaker 4 (35:53):
This is my yearly celebration remembering Elvis. He passed away
August sixteenth, nineteen seventy seven. And Tony, you know, you
and I are in a unique position because we're both
forty eight years old and we were the last generation
to be alive when Elvis was alive.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Think about that.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
What I mean, you're sure Elvis is dead?
Speaker 4 (36:19):
He just went home. Actually he's not dead. He just
went home. August twenty third, nineteen seventy seven. That was
the concert that was supposed to happen at Roperina.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Larry, I remember that, Yes, sir, twenty.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
One thousand tickets sold. The tickets went on sale July
thirty first, and I think for about fifteen dollars you
could have set lower arena to see Elvis.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Wow, if you.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Would have played so hardy sold out at no time flat.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Yeah, it was pretty dagone quick. And I think the
original plan was just to have the lower bowl the
lower arena for Elvis, and that sold out pretty quickly,
and then they opened up the upper ones and I've
always wanted to get my hands on an Elvis ticket
of up Arena. I'm sure it's on eBay. I haven't
looked in a while, but I would love to get
my hands on one for my collection.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Well, if your sister's listening this wanting to be a
great Christmas press, I for her to get you.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
By the way, shout out to the Oscar Mayer Wiener
mobile that's been driving around Lexington and Georgetown over the weekend. Anthony,
be good on the road. When you see the Oscar
Mayer winder Mobile. Don't try to speed, don't try to
catch up.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
What is it doing? Is it gonna hand me? Is
it when you used to see the red bull cars
driving down the street, especially in Europe, when they'll stop
in the middle street and run and give you a
red Bull? Are they gonna give me a hot Do
I think they give out hot dogs?
Speaker 4 (37:37):
The Oscar Mayer Winter Mobile is going to be over
at Legends Field this afternoon, So Anthony, if you go
over there and you get a picture with the Oscar
Mayer Wiener Mobile, just make sure you relish the moment.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Relish the moment. I like that though good, it's good
a job with that if you're done with music.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
As far as if this show hasn't been rough enough
for me, I got to put up with this kind
of anyways.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Think it'll be better next Sunday. Remember you'll have the
Bali and Molly firm in the studio with you.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Hopefully, Yeah, hopefully they'll be better. They'll be more supportive
than you are. Thank you all for listening. Thanks to
Larry Va, Thanks to Jack Pilgrim, Thanks the bout Robin
is always keeping us on air. I'm Anthony White and
this has been Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning, the Sports Talking
News Radio six point thirty WLAP
This is Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk, presented by
the lead troop Boards Radio Network on six point thirty WLAP.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony White,
along with Larry Vaught and producer Bo Robinson, coming to
you from Clark's Main Street Market Studios in downtown Lake Santeen, Kentucky.
Looks like my phone got broke. Uh, Larry Vaught, I
(00:30):
just want to preface this conversation with I really really
respect you your profession and your opinion and you as
a person. The disrespect that you exude toward our football
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team and just the University of Kentucky in general today.
I understand your reservations and understand why you you. You
don't want to be completely bought into what I'm telling you,
but I'm trying to convince you to do the right thing,
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and you keep fighting against me. Larry Vaudivan, I'm going
to state this, I'm not fighting.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yes, you are, I'm just not at this point. I'm
just not as optimistic as you are.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I'm not really optimistic. I'm rational. I just want you
to be rational. So that's where I think the disrespect comes.
Because I don't think you're being rational. I think you
And this is why I say this, Larry Vat And
we did this all last week, and I've been doing
this for the past couple of weeks, so I'm getting
well versed at reciting some of these things. And just
this week, because I think we're two weeks away from
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game day, everybody keeps bringing up Toledo. All we got
to worry about Toledo, and I again, I repeat, I don't.
I don't think there's any we should be overlooking any teams.
And I think as a player or a teammate that's
been an underdog in a lot of games in my life,
that I understand the whole idea that you might be,
you know, we may be underdog, or or that Toledo
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may be the underdogs and they may feel disrespected and
come out and do something they shouldn't do. I do
know that before we went to break you told me
you were kind of concerned about Toledo because Toledo beat
Mississippi State forty one to seventeen in Starkville last year,
and you you spoke about that, and you also spoke
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that they beat Pittsburgh in Detroit Michigan and Bowl game
forty eight to forty six and six overtimes, right, I
don't don't.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Have any overtime. So was that w They were more
than a touchdown underdog in those games?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
And they uh, and they weren't undefeated. I'm assuming because
only games you speak about are the Mississippi State game
and the Pittsburgh game. So they went undefeated.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
No, I think they love scope for games.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
We're going to have to try to get Larry.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
At this time, hear ago.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
So tell you what, Larry, we are having some issues
trying to make out your reasoning for Kentucky football. So
if you don't mind, I'm gonna call you back. Okay,
all right, hang on, Anthony. That was the best way
I could put it to cover for you.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Man. Oh well, No, I was trying to give him
a break. But I will say once he comes back,
I will I can continue to explain when Larry Vall
pointed out, and everybody keeps pointing out that just Tello
team that beat Mississippi State last year and beat Pittsburgh
last year. They scored forty some points against Misissippi State
and they scored forty some points against Pittsburgh and six overtimes.
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They're definitely not scoring that many points on our defense.
The problem is that no one's pointing out that they
also lost to Buffalo, they lost to Bowling Green, they
lost to Ohio, they lost the Akron. So I guess
what I was trying to explain to Larry. What was
that you point out to Pittsburgh win and Mississippi State win.
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We're good wins. They also scored forty some points, which
they want to do on our defense. But he and
this is why I say, you got to be rational
because you did not point out that they lost the Akron,
they lost Ohio University, they lost to Bowling Green, they
lost to Buffalo. If they didn't score a heck of
a lot of points, they even lost to Western Kentucky.
But I get Western Kentucky some credit because they have
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been sneaky sneaky good these past couple of years. So
just I don't know, I'm billing myself. I'm building myself confidence,
I'm building up I try to build the fan base
confidence that this team is better than what they think
they are. And I think they're better than what we
think they're going to be because they're going to play harder,
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they're going to give more effort. That team last year
was better than a lot of teams in the country.
And not convinced Larry Vault before his phone was breaking
up and he said that we were ninety three. I thought,
I thought we could go nine to three. We could
have went nine to three. We definitely could have went
nine to three. That team gave up. All right, we
have we have Larry. We don't need to hear. We know,
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we don't need to hear. We don't need to hear
Larry Vaught say anything at this point. Come on, no, no,
because because Larry Vats being irrational and I think it's disrespectful.
He's watched enough football. He know that the culture has
changed around here. And I absolutely understand that he's saying
that for him to hear from inside and other people
that you know, the culture needs to rebuild. We are
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rebuilding the culture. So give give him the benefit of
the doubt that we're getting back to because all these
these new parts, we these fifty new players we brought
in from the transfer portal. I think they're hungry and
they don't deserve to be disrespected by what happened last year. Now,
Dion Walker. He should walk around his head down, barring
some of those guys who were on that team last
year who had a lot of upside to him and
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did not compete to that level. They should walk around
their heads down. But these guys that are new because
they came from mid majors do not deserve for Larry
Vaught to be Turntina. They need to worry about They
need to worry about Toledo. Toledo beat Mississippi State last year.
They beat Pittsburgh last year. But I don't know if
you heard or not when you were on break, Larry Vaugh,
but they also you didn't say anything about them losing Akron, Ohio, Bowling, Green, Buffalo,
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Western Kentucky. You ain't say nothing about that. I guess
the forty points they scored on Misissippi State and Pittsburgh
they're gonna do to us.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
I don't know. I mean, I hope you're right about
this team, but I've just came quite jump on the bandwagon.
But like that until I see a little bit more.
Because you can be as hungry as you want, but
you still got to be able to have some talent,
and you've still got to be able to play, and
a lot of these guys we just haven't seen play yet,
so let's see what happens. And I think we've talked
(07:10):
about before that sometimes when a player transfers from a team,
maybe there was a problem with that player at that team.
Like you said, it's good to get rid of the
transfers that Kentucky did well. And yeah, you're hoping that
all these guys come in and the are the kind
of player you think. But this time of year ago
it sounded great too. Whatever you talk to players, those
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guys that came in last year, they sure sounded hungry,
they sure seen hungry. But when the season started, whatever
it was just didn't click.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
No, sir, And I will tell you this, Larry, but
I told you three years ago that there was going
to be a problem with the transfer a portal. And
I never told you why because I knew the difficulty
I have told you off air. I knew the difficulties
the coaches were having motivating these players, keeping the players engaged,
having to recruit them every year. So that told me
the motivation were leaving those play well. The motivation to
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compete if your only motivation to compete is is money,
or I guess really money because playing time. If your
motivation is money and you get the playing time, you
don't compete. You just hurt the fan base, you hurt
the coaching staff because you can cost the coach their job.
You can get someone hurt. When I told you that
three years ago, that was the main purpose I was
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telling you that that I was concerned that these players
are not going to be motivated. And I had one
player and specific and I don't know if I ever
told you the name that I knew was going to
be difficult to keep, and if we did keep them,
was going to be a dog on headache. And I
think that manifested itself. So no, those guys weren't hungry.
So the statement you just made again further as to
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the disrespect that they did.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Not how do you know these guys here right now
are going to be that different.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I do not know that. I do not know that,
but I know when you're saying they came from schools
when they can when they came from schools. They came
from schools because they may have been overlooked, or they
may have they didn't come to this level or University
of Kentucky saying, well, yeah, this school needs me more
than I need them. No, they need to play in
the SEC and they don't want to be embarrassed. Some
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of the guys we had on that roster last year,
all they wanted to do was make money and they
weren't gonna be embarrassed because they were compensated with the Patcheock.
I'm telling you, I can't tell you I know this
for a certain I'm not gonna tell you I don't
know it for certain.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Was the guys this year aren't playing for free. They
didn't come here and say I don't need any money.
I'm just gonna go come because I wanted to do
all the things you just said. They're all getting paid too.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Why why do you see so you saw Will Levice
dropped from first round to second round, sitting in the
green room all that time. What makes a player drop
from first round to fourth round? Now, if you've seen
players dropping the draft, I mean you've seen Shad or
Sanders dropping it. But what makes a player drop from
first the fourth round?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Larry Vaught, I would say production, okay.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
And that's usually uh usually directly proportional proportionate to your
output effort, right, Okay, So that that's the whole point.
I'm telling you, Larry Vaux, guys stop giving effort. The
same team you saw against oh Miss, the same guys
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you saw against UH Georgia. After a while, I don't
know why they stopped pulling the rope. I have no idea.
And you say, right, I understand you're saying these new
guys might not. I'm telling you, do not disrespect because
you have no reason to think they won't. I had
a reason to think some of those guys last year
who laid down, I had reason to think they would.
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I have no reason to I would not. I would not.
You can't cover going nine and three because no, I
knew they had the ability to lay down. I didn't
know they would.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Oh okay, okay in.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
The first five games, did.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
They South Caline, I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
So whatever, So like you like you, like you've alluded to,
and maybe you know something more, Maybe something happened in
the locker room. I don't know. I don't know. I'm
not certain, like you said, it could have it could
have been tons of things. But I just and I'm
you know, I'm being lighthearted about the disrespect thing. But
if I were a player and I just came to
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the University of Kentucky and I had sports writers saying
that this team's going to be bad because and I
had nothing to do with last year's team. This is
coming from Larry. This is coming from a guy in
nineteen ninety nineteen ninety six was kicked off the football
team and then it came back in ninety seven as
a starting running back.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yeah, and hopefully being picked last in the SEC or
next to last almost every hole that you've seen out there,
hopefully that we'll motivate guys and get them back to
doing some things that maybe they hadn't done before. But
to me, I've still got to see it. And again,
I've talked to some people who I trust and I
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respect their football knowledge, who've had access to seeing practices
at all, who are maybe not quite as optimistic as
you are about this team. So I'm factoring some of
that into what I'm hearing too.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I give you, I give you, just be a little bit,
just cast a little more leniency on some of these
guys that you didn't see play last year. I understand
your question, but I'd just say castle leenency on them.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Well, I mean, I'm nobody. I don't they go twelve
and thirteen or whatever. I'm just saying, if you asked
me to give my opinion, and my honest opinion, that's
what I'm giving you. That I got to wait and
see to know because there's just so many unknowns on
this team that we just still don't know about. I mean,
I'm kind of wondering, Well, let's just talk about running back.
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I mean, they brought in two transfers who are going
to be looks like one and two, and yet to
what the last two weeks and the scrimwhich is they
haven't participated. Now maybe that's the how mummy philosophy, let's
just don't get on hit or whatever. But one of
them is banged up a little bit, and how much
it's a little bit, we don't know. So again, I've
kind of got to seal to see what's going to happen.
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The guys they brought into the offensive line. I mean,
it sounds great on paper, but this time last year
it sounded great on paper too.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Let's put a pin in that. Alvin. I'm sorry, Larry
got me off. Hold on, Alvin. When we've come back,
we will get you, Larry Watt put a pin in
the running back in depth chart conversation. We'll continue this
conversation when we come back. You're listening Stockyards Bank Sunday
when the Sports Talk on news Radio six thirty.
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(14:21):
Debbie downer. But who's not a Debbie downer? It's Alvin.
So Alvin, can you help me out so I don't
have to continue talking to Larry ever since Jack left
to show Larry's Larry's stuck in my crawl?
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Well, I think you want a co host that you
know will have their own point of views and point
out things that might be disagreeable, but in some ways
you both could be right and both have the perspective
that we'll translate on the football field. So it's it's
good that type of engagement opinions, you know, Milord in
(15:02):
some instances. In some instances, uh, it doesn't. So I
enjoyed both for what the back and forth that you
duds was engaging in. With that said, Anthony, I think
about passing strategies Steet Speare, I think had the fun
done many that a couple of decades or two ago.
(15:23):
The Houston Cougars had the run and shoot with Davy
Klingle and Andre Ware I believe.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
I think throwing the ball all over the field with
the you know, the receivers that that you would have,
and how Mummy's air raid was a very exciting offensive strategy,
uh you know with you and of course the great
Tim Couch surrounded with Craig East and key O Samford
(15:53):
and I forget a couple of other uh wide receivers
in the tight end and that type of excitement. Jimmie,
will you know, allow the fans to enjoy your offense
strategy and the defense you know reeling if you will
have you what does sports dods have to do to
(16:16):
bring a passing game to his offense because seemingly it's
been boring two quarterbacks with O'Leary and McGriff. Last year,
Lewis was a little bit better than those two. Do
you think the passing game where UK football will energize
(16:36):
the team and energize the fan base?
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Appreciate the call? Alvin? Uh, Bill, hold on, I don't
want to put you up against a break. We're gonna
uh over this round for a second and we will
get you when we come back from the break. But
Larry Vaughtuh, I know I've said the past couple weeks.
You weren't on the show last week, And I don't
know if you remember the Seattle Seahawks and a lot
of a lot of maybe with exception of Patrick Mahomes,
(17:04):
even Peyton Manning, Tom Brady won games because of defense.
They were just managers. Like Peyton Manning could air it out.
But his last couple of years he won Super Bowl
and those other things because his defense was really good.
And I hear what Alvin is saying. I wonder if
you agree with me for once today that I don't
(17:27):
think we really need a passing office. I think we
need to move the chains, whether that is you know,
throwing hots off the blitz to get three yards, four yards,
whatever it is. If we get blitzed, don't take the sack,
but know where the blitz is coming from and know
where your opportunity is to move the ball down the field.
I don't because even the air raid that we ran
(17:48):
was not a deep pass game. Everything was like five,
five to seven yards getting the ball out of his hands,
get a mismatch. Craig Yust could take a five yard hitch,
and there's times he ran faders or posts to the house,
but most of the offense was predicatal and getting the
ball in Craigy's sands five to seven yards down the field,
myself five to seven yards down the field, Quentin McCorry
(18:08):
kill Samford.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
But so to answer Alvin's question, Larry VOI, I don't
really think that we need to have the offense to
be explosive, to be exciting to the fan base and
to get us wins. I think we just have to
manage the game better on the offensive, society the ball,
keep the keep the chains moving, and not go three
and out so often.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Well, I don't know that I thought Alvan meant you
had to throw at forty yards downfield. I think just
to have any kind of passing game was what he
was meaning. And I think, yeah, if you could consistently,
you know, complete five six eight yard passes, that is fine.
You know, mix in a deep one every now and
then if you get to get the changs. But as
you said, just to pick up first downs. But I
(18:52):
don't think you can just line up and run it
every time. You're about to be able to throw it
some and throw it effectively. And what they can do
this year that's going to kind of be determage at.
The passing game hasn't been very good the last couple
of years, and you got to be able to throw
it some. Well, i'll take it back, little Leary. I
think was better than what we getting credit for. But
last year you got to be able to throw it some.
You don't have to be able to throw it forty
(19:13):
times a game, but you got to be able to
the way. You got to be able to complete some.
You can tell it all you are. You got to
be able to complete some, as you said, to move
the chain. So let me rephrase that. They got to
be able to complete some passes this.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Year, and that's what I think. Hopefully album that answered
your question. Like you said, I think if we know
where the pressure is coming from, a lot of times
the past two years that we knew where the pressure
was coming from and we took the hit or took
the loss of yardist. When the pressure comes, get the
ball out of your hands, and those are hot routes.
Just have a scheme where you have outlets when the
pressure is coming. We'll continue this show after this break.
(19:48):
You're listening to Stockyards Bank Sunday when a Sports Talk
on news radio six thirty WLAP.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
This is Stockyards Bank Sunday Mornings Sports Talk, presented by
the lead troop for IT Radio Network on six thirty
w l AP.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning sports Talk. Come Anthony
White along with Larry Vaught and producer Bo Robinson. This
hour Sunday Morning sports Talks brought to you by country
Boy Brewing Larry Vaught. The biggest fans hot line are
red Hot. I think everybody else is mad at you,
just like I am. But before we go to the
(20:22):
big ass fans hotline, Larry Vaughugh, I just want you
to know that your beloved Toledo Rockets finish four and
four in the MAC Conference, sixth, sixth in the conference,
and you won't brad whiting them to be scared of them?
All right, Okay, you got that right.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
I love the way you twist words when you want
to make it come out the way you want to do.
That's okay, go a Yeah, I'm big guy, I can
take it.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Hey, Bill, Bill, thanks for holding on the big ass
Fans hot line. Helped me out.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
Help me out, man, I'm sorry. I'm God's gonna be
helping you out too much.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Me.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
A couple of things. Number One, when you're getting paid
the kind of money these nil people are getting paid,
they don't they don't need the protection of an eighteen
year old kids, blah blah blah. If they're getting paid
that kind of money, and you think and know that
(21:23):
there's an individual player that has has thrown it in
the towel, then they needed to be called.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Out as number one agreed.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
Well, then how come we're not hearing anybody's names.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Oh no, I'm not doing that, not to know, not
if it was your people.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
They're getting paid one hundreds of thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
But there are also human beings though, and also somebody's son.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
Well, I mean pro players, they get criticism by name.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Those are adults, well adults.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
Well, they're getting paid money.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I agree, I agree. What you go ahead? Okay, go ahead, Okay.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
The second thing is I started following Kentucky in nineteen
fifty eight, and so you see patterns over the years. Here,
here's a pattern. This time of the year is about
selling tickets number one, number two. When you got a
team every year tells you how much better the attitude
(22:31):
is this year than it was last year. You never
hear about the bad attitude the team has during the
current year. It's always next year. So from a leterry's perspective,
I can appreciate the skepticism of these guys are going
to be different. They may be different, but I can
(22:52):
see why you're skeptical because you've heard it a million times.
They never tell you the attitude today during the current year.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Well, thank you, Bill, Bill.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
I appreciate it, cause I think Larry must have text
you and told you the call. But I honestly I do.
I do. I do appreciate the cause I did. I
don't disagree with you, Bill.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
Okay, all right, you ever got to talk about directions
where she tell you to go.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Thanks, thank you for the cover. Uh no, so no,
I do agree with Bill, but Larry Vaught put all
of our prior conversation aside, and I do understand where
Bill's coming from. Do you think it would be correct
for me to call anyone out by name or do
you think is enough that I can understand that the
(23:41):
fan base is not happy, but I'm giving them reasoning
on why I think things happen.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
I really have mixed motions about that now, Anthony, because
of the guy's thinking five hundred thousand dollars or a
billion dollars, but he's on nineteen. Yeah, you say he's
just a kid and you don't want to call him out,
But when he's making more than the majority of us
will ever make, then I think when you take that money,
some responsibility comes with it, and that would include that
(24:10):
when you're not doing what you're supposed to, that you're
going to get called out more than what you would
have if you just were there on a scholarship. So
I think when you have the big dollars involved, comes
a lot more responsibility of what's going to go along
with it, and that you're going to be held a
lot more accountable, where your coaches all the time talk
about being held accountable. So if you want to put
(24:31):
that money in your bank account, I think you've got
to be accountable if you don't live up to what
you're being paid to do, just like we would be
in any other job. And if you're eighteen, I mean,
that's just going to be a fact of life.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Now.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
If you're going to make that kind of money, you're
going to have to accept that kind of accountability.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I think what if his name was Cody Vaught, would
you feel the same way?
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Yeah, I would if he was making if he was
making more, not made my lifetime, he was making more
in one year than what I was good to money.
I mean, I think when you sign up for this
part of it, that's going to be some of it,
because I mean, you're asking the bills of the world
to contribute more money, to pay more to come to games,
to donate to this and donate to that. But yet
(25:11):
say well, but yet, don't criticize Kobe Valcozy dropped four
passes and he's only making six hundred thousand dollars this
year because he's only eighteen. We can't expect him to
catch him. Well, when he's making six hundred thousand dollars,
you're going to expect him to catch them.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Let me say one more thing, then we're gonna get
to the phone and see what Tony has for was
I'm going to ask you this then, Larry, But what
if what if at the conclusion of the season that
the player comes across as injured, Now, maybe as an
injury because I have been injured, as we stayed before,
justin Netteger has been injured the whole season. You remember
(25:48):
a guy named Billy Jack Haskins. Sure he had two
shoulders and one of them didn't work as a quarterback,
and everybody knew that, but that didn't stop him for
putting forth effort. So my point is, so what if?
What if? What if? What if the media was told that, well,
that player that seemed like they may not have been
given effort was hurt the whole season? Is that? Now?
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Do you I think of this day as salaries? You're
going to do just like you do in the NFL.
You're good to have an injury report that you make
that information available.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Okay, I'm saying there's a lot more to it just
than calling somebody out. But and you can feel free
to call out whoever you want to call out. Larry,
I'm telling you I'm not doing it, and I understand
where Bill's coming from. Uh, but I think if you
read between the lines or you ask around, you can
figure out who these people are that may or may
not have been putting forth the effort they should have
(26:41):
been for whatever reason.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Uh, let me get to the big ass fans hotline,
because hopefully you didn't text Tony two to tell him
to call in and support you total Tony, thanksful holding man,
what you got for us? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (26:59):
I did get Larry's, so go for it, telling them. Well,
what I've got to share with you guys this morning
is I've been a football fan for football first fan
for a while, and it seems like the effort and
how prepared our team is to play has been like
on a study decline over the last three years. And
(27:20):
I'm more worried about the season. I don't care about
the players or lineup as more as about the coaching staff.
You know, I'm a big soup Sky I've been pulling
for him since the beginning, But can they put together
a program this quickly in the offseason, bringing in fifty
new players while you know, all the colleges are dealing
with the same system, whether it's or paying them or
not paying them. I mean, when they get them the
(27:42):
field on Saturday, everybody's got to deal with the same rules.
So you know, we got to make it work. And
that's where I'm worried about, is can this staff, you know,
get a team together and get them on the field
and prepared and put out a good effort. I mean,
that's what the fans want to see, and it's just
been too sloppy the last three years and we just
want to see that no moment.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Tony, How would you feel if I speculated, if I
strongly speculated that the concerns you have are concerns that
a lot of people have, concerns that I had, And
my speculation could have been that Mark Stops turned a
blind eye to a lot of things that happened and
which led to what you are witnessing what you call
lack of effort, lack of accountability. But after last season,
(28:25):
it could have been a gut punch. Maybe that could
have been which led to some dissension between hisself and
big dog. So the things you are saying, maybe I
think came to the forefront because of the fore and
eighth season and the fan base calling for change, and
you're saying, how fast can it be changed? I don't
have a problem with that, But could you subscribe to
(28:46):
the idea that maybe after last season opened some of
the coaching staff's eyes and possibly the biggest eyes of
the head coach.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
Sure, sure, that's a maybe, But that doesn't mean I'm
not going to be concerned about a lesson, you know,
Toledo in the first game. I have no idea what's
gonna happen when they get on the field, you know,
with this group, I hope it's I hope it's positively maybe.
I hope so. I mean, that's what's what we all
are hoping. But until until we see Smaxuell football against
so money other than other Kentucky players, we'll we'll find out,
(29:19):
you know, I hope that's the case.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Well, I appreciate the call, Tony, thank you for that. Uh,
Larry Vaught, You've got the fan base kind of round up,
and I think you do know I do not disagree
with you, Bill or Tony's opinion I'm just looking at
from a player's perspective, which I have done for a
long time. On this show is always giving you guys
(29:43):
a player's perspective, and I try to support the players
as much as I can. But if I'm hearing things
like you said, you're hearing things or from inside the
locker room, outside of the locker room, or just people
who know, and these players aren't like you're saying, not
holding each other accountable or not give an effort, then me,
as a player, I can't. I can't really support you.
(30:04):
So that's when I make some of the comments I make.
But I do believe a lot of these guys who
you haven't seen play McCallan, dowbtem A lot of these
guys you haven't seen play. I can't with certainty doubt them.
I can't doubt them for any reason. I've been doubted
before and it really really irritates me and it makes
(30:26):
me play harder, which that's what you're expecting to see.
But as a player, I wouldn't doubt my teammate now
if I see sambagging now, all of a sudden, you know,
we got a whole other issue, which I told you
about on this show a lot of times, there's always
been people on different sides of the ball that would
that would hold the players accountable. And I will say
this also, Larry, that if I feel that some of
(30:51):
those players with sambagging or not, I'm not gonna say,
sam Bag, I think they gave up at some point.
And you've interviewed guys who said you thought players give
an effort at some point during the season for whatever reason.
I don't know what it is. You also know, just
from being around sports and seeing guys for all these
years on that played at Kentucky, that there's no way
you're gonna line up to somebody knowing they're not giving
(31:13):
full effort. Now, if you accept that and you can
and you start to do that, or you do that
as well, now it starts to trickle. It becomes contagious,
and it's like I said, it's unhealthy because someone could
get hurt. And it also affects the fan base, coaches
salaries and all those other things. But uh, I think
(31:34):
that's the biggest thing for me.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Yeah, and I think we're gonna we'll get a chance
to see I mean, I'm one. I think Kentucky will
beat Toledo. I think Kentucky will will win that game.
And because I think I see a rejuvenated Mark Soops,
I think he's probably been I had a bigger thumbprint
on this team. That might be what he had the
last couple of years. Think he's maybe his work ethic
has kind of been uh ramp back up. And I've
(32:00):
always told you, I've always held Kentucky football handles adversity
better than handle's prosperity. And they were full of prosperity
going into last year. I mean, they couldn't wait to
tell you how good they were, how they were going
to be in the play I mean they weren't even
talking about all they talk about playoffs, which is great
to have big aspirations, but then you can't go out
there and play like they did for most of the
season and do those kind of things. So again, this
(32:23):
team has said all the right things. I've been around them.
The guys seemed like they're focused in but it's hard
to know what August because I've never heard of any
team say, man, we're going to suck this year. Nobody's
ever just said that, you know that we'll be lucky
to match four and eight. Nobody's going to say that.
So that's why I think, wouldn't you talking like the
Bill and Tony me whereas all kind of on the
(32:45):
same boat hoping the team's going to be better, but
kind of got to wait and let somebody show it
and prove it to us. And there's a lot of
different pieces. I mean, good guys, when Mark Stoups can't
even tell you right now who thinks his best receivers
are going to be, that's either a really good thing
because you've got fourteen studs that group, or why do
(33:05):
we not have a number one guy? Why can't we
tell that at Also, it's just a lot of things.
Mark's keeping a lot of stuff really close to his
vest right now. His press conference after the scrimmage yesterday
revealed basically nothing. I mean, probably the most significant information
that he gave out was that Cole Anner, a walk
one receiver from Bull County, was after the year that
(33:26):
he heard he blew his knee out on a fan
day in that scrimmage. But other than that, he didn't
say much of anything to give anything away good, bad,
or indifferent. And also that tells me he's locked down,
ready to go play. Right now and hopefully his guys
will be the same way.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
And exaid, I don't, I do not disagree with a
lot of things you said, but I won't want to
say one thing before we had to break. I'm gonna
ask you really quickly, one thing before we had to break.
Everything you've heard about David Gusta, is it fair for
him to have the way for you to prove something
to him? And I'm not saying good or bad. And
that's one thing I'm not giving you credit for. You're
(34:04):
not saying you believe less or more in this team.
You're just saying you don't have a belief. But I'm
just saying everything I'm hearing about David Gusta, I would
like to give him credit at the end. I would.
I will remove the credit if it's warranted. But what
I would want him to say was, well, that defensive line,
we don't know anything about him. He's not gonna That's
(34:27):
just how I feel. That's kind of how I feel
about this team, all these new guys. I'm giving them
a mulligain, I'm giving them a clean slate.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Well, I'll put it this way, if David Guesta was
playing quarterback, running back, offensive tackle, linebacker. I'd be ready
to go nine and three with Kentuck kickers. But I
think he's got a track record that's very proven out
there with where he was and all the numbers and
everything back him up in a big in a big way.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
So he had a.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
David Gusta at every position that I'd be ready to
go nine and three. Right now.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
That is Larry Vaught. We'll be back to close out
this show. You were listening to Stockyards Back Sunday Morning
Sports Talk on news radio six thirty WLP.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
This is Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk presented by
the lead Troop Barge Radio Network on six thirty w LAP.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk on Anthony
White along with Larry Vaux and producer Bowl Robinson here
talking UK football, getting his bandwagon ribbed up, put a
new alternator on it, got a new transmission put in,
so we were ready to go for this season.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
We gotta get it off the lot. Oh yeah, we
gotta get it out of the garage door first and
then off the lot.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
We're gonna We're gonna test driving next week. We're gonna
test driving next week and we'll be driving it down
the street a week after that. But Larry Vaught bow
Robinson's walking around with the very nice picture of Elvis,
and why is that boat?
Speaker 4 (35:53):
This is my yearly celebration remembering Elvis. He passed away
August sixteenth, nineteen seventy seven. And Tony, you know, you
and I are in a unique position because we're both
forty eight years old and we were the last generation
to be alive when Elvis was alive.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Think about that.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
What I mean, you're sure Elvis is dead?
Speaker 4 (36:19):
He just went home. Actually he's not dead. He just
went home. August twenty third, nineteen seventy seven. That was
the concert that was supposed to happen at Roperina.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Larry, I remember that, Yes, sir, twenty.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
One thousand tickets sold. The tickets went on sale July
thirty first, and I think for about fifteen dollars you
could have set lower arena to see Elvis.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Wow, if you.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Would have played so hardy sold out at no time flat.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Yeah, it was pretty dagone quick. And I think the
original plan was just to have the lower bowl the
lower arena for Elvis, and that sold out pretty quickly,
and then they opened up the upper ones and I've
always wanted to get my hands on an Elvis ticket
of up Arena. I'm sure it's on eBay. I haven't
looked in a while, but I would love to get
my hands on one for my collection.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Well, if your sister's listening this wanting to be a
great Christmas press, I for her to get you.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
By the way, shout out to the Oscar Mayer Wiener
mobile that's been driving around Lexington and Georgetown over the weekend. Anthony,
be good on the road. When you see the Oscar
Mayer winder Mobile. Don't try to speed, don't try to
catch up.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
What is it doing? Is it gonna hand me? Is
it when you used to see the red bull cars
driving down the street, especially in Europe, when they'll stop
in the middle street and run and give you a
red Bull? Are they gonna give me a hot Do
I think they give out hot dogs?
Speaker 4 (37:37):
The Oscar Mayer Winter Mobile is going to be over
at Legends Field this afternoon, So Anthony, if you go
over there and you get a picture with the Oscar
Mayer Wiener Mobile, just make sure you relish the moment.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Relish the moment. I like that though good, it's good
a job with that if you're done with music.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
As far as if this show hasn't been rough enough
for me, I got to put up with this kind
of anyways.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Think it'll be better next Sunday. Remember you'll have the
Bali and Molly firm in the studio with you.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Hopefully, Yeah, hopefully they'll be better. They'll be more supportive
than you are. Thank you all for listening. Thanks to
Larry Va, Thanks to Jack Pilgrim, Thanks the bout Robin
is always keeping us on air. I'm Anthony White and
this has been Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning, the Sports Talking
News Radio six point thirty WLAP
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