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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk presented by
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Welcome back to Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk on
Anthony White along with Larry Vaught and Jack Pilgrim, coming
to you from Clark's Main Street Market Studio in downtown Lexington, Kentucky. Return,
refreshed and refuse talking about UK football tough overtime loss
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to the Texas Longhorns here in Lexington, homecoming weekend, Keenland
fall meat, A lot of things going on, Blue and
White games this weekend. We got Florida playing volleyball over
Memorial College Center.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I was going to say, there's so much going on.
You got Scarefest happening at Central Bank Center. So much
was happening. The entire city was gridlocked.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I didn't know, Scar, I didn't know that was going on. Ye,
traffic was a mess on Friday night. That sounds about right,
even Friday afternoon. But there were some accidents. Yeah, there
was an accident a lot of things, so yeah, it was.
It took me and you what about thirty minutes north
of Georgetown, both.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Not north of Georgetown, No, I live in Lexington. I
mean where you're from. Oh, where I'm from. I'm from
northern Kentucky. But we can go all the way back
to Georgetown. Sure, let's do that.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Oh no. So I was coming back from Georgetown, okay.
And it took me and my sister and my mother
two hours and fifteen minutes yep to get back to Lexington.
And I live in North Lexington, right off the freeway.
I live right off of the freeway.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
My parents came from Georgetown on Friday to go to
the Blue White Game yep. And it took them almost
three hours from Georgetown to get to Memorial Coliseum. And
I told them, do not go downtown. Do not go downtown,
Do not go by Rapperena. I get a call two
hours later, the hell, all these people dressed up for downtown.
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What's going on? I said, That's why I told you
not to go downtown.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
How do you get to how do you get the Reparena?
Not going downtown? I mean, uh, Memorial Coliseum without going downtown.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Oh you cut across I have to, you can cut
across Oliver Lewis Way. I told him not to go downtown,
go go to Memorial Coliseum. Will you can cut across
Oliver Lewis Way to get into campus and Broadway. That's
where I wanted.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Them to go.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
But they went downtown okay, and stopped at Scarefest.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Okay, no big deal.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
But it was a mess on Friday, and.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I absolutely agree. I was stuck in it. Let's get
back to the phone lines and see what Larry has
to say. Larry has returned. What do you got for?
Is Larry?
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Well? Can you hear me?
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Ask me?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
We can now?
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Okay, I guess I was sitting in the own. I
changed songs, say you know what's a frustrating about me?
For something? That older guy called he's older and made
a call it in And see, I've seen this over
the year so many times, like you said the Marquigue saying,
and you go back opposite in Kentucky playing Tennessee and
they blocked the field goal. And then I've seen Jerry
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Lorenzen he grave him by the hand. We had Florida
Bee and they get over in the air section, and it's
just so many things over the years that we we well.
The LSU game, I was there that game. They told
to hell of Merton bounced off one player, and they
went in so many things over the years as we've seen.
That's why Kentucky fans that are older especially have seen
all this stuff. And I kind of thought maybe we
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got pasted that a few years ago when Mark Stroughs
first came here, we were winning a lot of these
close games. But things like we've kind of went back
to the old days, you know, of having the game.
You know practically well, we out play teams. You know,
the stats said we outplayed them all, you know, real good.
But but the scorer is always they win. But you know,
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as far as the game, when he went for it
for fort Trice said, don't do it. Kicksfield go That's
that's my first instinct say. But of course you had
a lot of people that gets mad at him too,
and and if you don't go for it, why do
you go for it? So it's kind of one of
them deals that I guess he just wanted to take
a chance and try to win it. But you don't
go over top of a brick wall. I mean, when
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he done that dive, I thought, oh my gosh, he's
going to head a wall and he didn't. He Then
I said, we're beat because their field goal kicker is
a good kicker. All they had to do was kick
a field goal. But you know, you've seen this coming
so many times, and you sit in there thinking, why
can't we have this kind of luck? You know, better
luck than this. You know, some of we make our
own luck. But some of these choices, I don't know.
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I thought, you know, like to say, Anthony, you know,
there's so many things over the years that just frustrates
those fans that you know, you're wondering, why can't it
happen to us? You know? And I ask one question, Larry,
if you was going to pick coach, either would you
pick Indiana coach or Vanderbilt? I would kick Indiana coach
when you right now.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
I was voting today, Yes, I would go with Indiana.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
You got eleven million dollars to pay him, Larry or Larry,
either one of you all got lit million dollars a
pound that Indiana paint.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Him eleven megion and when they hired.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Him, No, they just signed him last week. All he
did well, it turns out to be eleven eleven eleven
is some change, right, Larry?
Speaker 6 (05:16):
Yeah, it's only ninety two million dollars for a year.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Yes, No, they just yet Larry up from eleven. They
just they just signed an extension and it puts him
about almost so I think about eleven million dollars a year.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
So if he turns out to this like what Mark
has right, they could be hurting, you know. I mean
he got You got to get the guy credit. He's
back up two years a row. Where they can keep
this up or not? I mean, you know they they
blowing out everybody. I've been trying of waiting when player
at Old House State, see what happens with I mean
the same as with Vandy. When this quarterback leaves, I'm
gonna see how good bandy is. You know, this guy
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here seems like he just got savvy about him, that
he just knows how to get things done. But I
will say that our quarterback, if Texas quarterb this Heischler
material irs is to you, I mean he out played him.
I mean we did everything ship win the game. I mean,
really way y'all say it.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I agree with you, Larry, thank you, thank you for
the call. Larry. I absolutely agree with that. And Jack,
before we switch over to basketball really quickly, I did
want to ask based off what Larry was saying, because,
like I said, you've been You've been pretty reasonable throughout
this football season. You know, I got got on you
a little bit, but you've been absolutely reasonable and you've
been right more than not. But Larry did bring up,
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and this is something I find interesting that the Bluegrass
Miracle a lot of the Mark Higgs. I don't remember
the Mark Higgs. I was not really falling Kentucky at
that point in time. I guess you can bring up
the not the Tennessee game without without going to Randall Kyle.
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But we also stopped hester on the number on the
LSU year when LSU won the national championship. We also
stopped him on shorten a short yardage in overtime to
end the game. So but all the things he brought
up were not all under Mark Stoops. So it's just
kind of the history of UK football. But everybody seeing
sounds as if Mark Stoops is making the most bone
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headed decisions. And I'm not gonna say he's not. He's
made plenty of them in the past couple of years.
But the history they were talking about is saying that
you know, this has been going on for years with us,
So does why wise Mark Stoops catch all this that
he's incompetent or he can't manage. When it's been happening
for years, how much money does Mark Stoops make? Many
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million dollars wasn't a thing until how many Brooks those
guys are only I mean how I was only making
like one point three so millions of dollars. Contract hasn't
become a thing over the past couple of years. Mark
Stoups hasn't been a head coach for thirteen years, so
even with inflation, he was gonna come up from three
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million whatever upto is going to be overday.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Yeah, but that's that's just what we do. As you know,
we pocket watch. We we when things go like it's
the same thing with Ni l and you see the
Hunter Dickinson's of the world and you get the you know,
the big dollar transfer portal editions or whatever, and when
they're not performing up to the standard of the school
or their own coaching ability or playing ability or whatever
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the case is. You know, people go directly to the hey,
well you're paid X number of dollars to you know,
it's you at your job, me at my job. If
you're not performing up to the standard, that your employer.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
You know, asks of you.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
They say, hey, you know, we're we're paying you this
to do your job, and you're not doing it well enough.
And that's why, you know, you on a day to
day basis, you know, the average person gets gets fired
over those things, or you know, they they're they're you
know that they have some type of you know, meeting
or some type of performance check or whatever the case is.
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So it's the exact same thing with with Mark Steuke's
it's just you know, highlighted and sharp eyed and underlying
an exclamation mark because he is a top ten paid
coach in college football, and so every little decision that
has made, whether it's his direct decision for you know,
the play call again, we've said that, We've we've talked
about how you know stops Stoops always says it's always
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on the offensive coordinator, and you know he distances himself
from that. But at the end of the day, it's
it's you know, the person in charge is the one
that's held accountable for the little kind of nickel and
dimes stuff. So yeah, like I you know, is he
the direct cause of some of the downfalls this season,
this game, whatever the case is you know, not not
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always the case, but he is paid to be the
front line, uh you know, first line or defense for
for public criticism.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
That's because that's that's what he's paid to do.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
So uh yeah, I I just think it's circle out
of circumstance. But also you know his role and his
responsibility to to take the brunt of it because he's
he's paid, He's paid accordingly.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
That is understandable. Let's get to the phone lines and
see what Doyle has to say. Good morning, Doyle, what
do you got for us?
Speaker 7 (10:19):
Hey? Uh, Anthony, my son and you are friends golf
and buddies.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
So you know who I am, Yes, sir, indeed, yeah,
how you doing doing good? Doing good? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (10:31):
And not get your key out of the ignition that
this means that your baddy is dead and your whole
computer just flows up inside your car. So I think
if you charge your baddy, get a little charge bull
and shift kick right back out. But anyway, I don't
understand and and and and I didn't listen to the
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I didn't listen to the uh Post show, which with
with with Coach Dukes. I don't understand the reluctancy that
he has in playing these big teams when and this
is this is what, this is my piece and you
don't have nothing to lose. Your third and one can't
get it. You're fourth and one, you can't get it.
You're in over today, You're you're you're your fourth and
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one kick the field goal. I don't understand that. And
then you know, I don't know if he told his
office coordinator in the bus or what. I just don't
understand it. You know, the same thing happened last year.
I think it was against George or somebody he had.
You have nothing to lose in these big games. You're
you're underdog, and you know this. Maybe I'm just seeing
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it in a different light, but I don't know what
what say you are you guys? Have you talked about
a mischief for about half an hour?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Uh? Thank you for the call, Doyle. Uh Larry Vaught
is I think you on both sides. I think he
did take so when people so people say, and you
have nothing to lose, take risks. I believe that's what
he did by going for it. I think going for
the field goal is more so settling. Larry or you
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agree with Doyle that take the points and then just
you know, see how the thing plays off. I don't know.
I don't think he can win at this point, just
because I think the fan base is already fed up.
But based off of what Doyle said, do you think
that he do? You do you think it is more
so taken the risk by taking the field goal and
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keep playing it out as opposed to taking the opportunity
to score.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
I can't tell you I feel, Anthony. When you have
the bomb first in overtime, you've got to get points
because if you don't, you're just basically saying the game's
overcause even you get a touchdown, they can still get
the touchdown and tie. But if you get no points, yeah,
I think you've got to get points. And especially if
you're going to run the same damn place it's been
stopping the whole game. Why run that? And again, as
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emphasized bush Hampton said, we made that decision. So I
think that's what they brought Dante out l N four.
It was to be this short yard as specialist. That's
what they were going to do, and it had no
chance to work. So I think you've got to do
it now. I do think if if Texas had had
scored a touchdown. If you could take a bat a
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field goal, he'd got blistered for that. But I still
think the smart thing you've got to do there is
you've got to get points on the board and trust
your defense that hadn't given up how many drives that
Texas had of twenty five yards during the game two
or I mean, they've gone three and out every time
but once in the second half. Hadn't they trust your defense?
If they were going to give up more than a
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field goal, then the worst you're gonna do is you're
gonna play overtime again. But I don't get it. I
I didn't want to ask you on that second down
play down there at the goal line when Cutter rolled out,
just from looking on TV.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
If he hits the corner, yep.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
That's what.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
Yeah. Again, I can't fault the guy that he baby
saw something we didn't. But I thought if he just
stayed outside, I thought.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
He was going he definitely could. I think he could
at least dove and knocked up the pieline and that
would be counted as a score. But yeah, that's what.
I don't know what he's I'm with you, I don't
know what he saw to stop. But he's not a
speed merchant, so he's not tuned to you know, let me,
let me use my speed and things. I was thinking
the same thing. But like said, he's young. The rust
is the rust is flying off a cutter. So he's
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he's he's maturing, he's he's coming along. That's yes. I
guess that's a learning, learning thing. Once he watched the film,
I think he'll be.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
Wi is flowing. He just gonna run over somebody's butt.
He was stricked to go to the zone. That was
the shortest path that he was going.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah, I agree with you. We will be back after this.
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financial needs. Jack Pilgrim, we did have a Blue and
White game this weekend, and I must say me personally,
I think I don't know if I expect I was underwhelmed.
I really really impressed about a lot of things that
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I saw, and it maybe that's what they were out there,
just having fun time. You know, usually it's like a
dunk fest or showing something and maybe our defense is
just that good, whereas it's tough for us to get
a lot of shots off. But what was your assessment
on the Blue and White game? Am I wrong fulfilling
underwhelmed from what I witnessed or is that what it
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was planning to be?
Speaker 4 (15:59):
No, I don't. I mean, it just depends on what
you're looking for. Because on one side of the aisle,
you could say that that was the toughest most competitive
Blue White game or scrimmage or sequence, whatever we want
to call that, because it was, you know, one quarter
of play in an.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Elam ending and they called it.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
So I didn't really love the setup. But I think
you can understand where Pope is coming from. When your
you know, star point guard goes down with a shoulder injury,
he kind of lets the air out of the building
and doesn't you know, want him to say, let's keep
this thing, keep this thing rolling. I think that the
mood was kind of gone at that point. So yeah,
I think all eyes are on Jalen Low. But outside
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of of that, I thought that they were super competitive
and and you know, defense was up, and they were
playing with a level of physicality and toughness that we
haven't seen in that event in a very very long time.
So that creates an ugly, uh, you know, ugly performance
of kind of defensive haymakers hoping for you know, one
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offensive side. I slightly outmatched the defense, so that was
I appreciated the tenacity that we saw, even if it
led to a kind of you know, not the sexiest
product in the world. But yeah, all eyes were on
jay Lon Low and Larry Vaught, our very own Larry
Vaught just put out a very important update that I'd
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like to hear from him on that as well. But yeah,
i'd heard nothing but good things about Low since since then.
I think it was more of a scary thing. I
watched the training staff kind of RePOP it back into
place while he was laying there just inexcruciating pain on
the ground there at the Memorial Coliseum. So I watched it,
didn't you know, wasn't able to move his arm at all,
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brought him back to the to the locker room. Pope
said afterward that they were going to do additional imaging
on Saturday, and apparently all the imaging came back mostly
clean and definitely more good news and bad more. It's
going to be about pain tolerance, and you know, does
this turn into a Lamont Butler kind of deal where
it's something that you know, randomly pops up every once
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in a while. I think that's going to be something
that we need to monitor, but definitely not something that's
going to be long lasting, something that's going to linger
into you know, it was the out for the years
you have to have surgery, you know, not all of
those kind of big picture questions that we had concerns
about leaving the event. I don't think that's something we
have to we have to worry about any longer. So, Larry,
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I want to want to give you credit where to
do because you're you're update with awesome. Well, what what
did you put on your site this morning?
Speaker 6 (18:30):
Well, I talk the source that I trust one thousand
percent who said that the MRI came back negative, that
there's a little question about and I didn't know this.
Maybe you did, Jack, but that he took a fall
in June, and maybe that it kind of contributed to this.
Maybe not no way to know for sure, but again
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just kind of checking, and you were right, they just
didn't totally dislocate and they were just kind of maneuvered
back in place there on the court. That optimistic. Optimistically,
maybe you get to play against Purdue. Probably not because
it wouldn't be the real reason to rush him back
that soon. But as far as it being anything of
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a real long term problem, don't think so. There was
some talk. It was from what I was told, it
was discussed that he might have to wear that harness
like Lamont Butler did last year, just maybe for precautions
or at least for a while. But the big difference
there would be it was on Lamar Butler's shooting arm,
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in the arm that he uses most of dribble and
do things with with Jayalen, it's on that off arm,
so it shouldn't be as big a deal. But overall,
the person that I talked to thought that things that
there would be no huge problems going forward for any
long term, so that just a matter of like I say,
this kind of nothing that rehab. Wait that when you
decide you want to let him get back out there.
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But I don't think there's any concern that this is
going to be dear as big an issues what Lamont's
was last year?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
And Jack, what do you look at as far as
if Jalen doesn't go against Purdue next week? Uh? Well,
I guess this week coming up? Who do we look
at the point guard? Are?
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Goodbye committee? Jasper?
Speaker 4 (20:13):
By committee?
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Jasper?
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Jasper is in Denzel Aberdeen's kind of staggering minutes and
in trade and off in that role and they're both
very capable.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Good deal. Follow Jack Pilgrim for more basketball updates. We
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Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony White,
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a country Boy brewing before we get back to football.
Larry Vaughla did is kind of to tap on some
couple of things about the basketball season, and both brought
up a good thing and brought up a good topic
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over the break. And I'm not sure if it's been
what the past three or maybe maybe it happens every
year that we have a significant injury before the season
even starts, that you're down a person and now you're
when you're down with one of the top players in
the country at a key position. Uh, maybe we just
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don't practice a whole lot, or don't practice so toughly
so we can get into the season without any injuries.
Because Bo, that was the only thing he was looking for.
He said, come out of the game, everybody clean and uninjured.
And that did not take place. But if it was
an old injury, Larry, I'm not sure if you understand,
if if you uh, I guess, what is it hyper
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stand or if it pops out of place on your
ligaments get stretched. It tends to do that quite often.
I dislocated my finger one time playing basketball and I'm
just catching the basketball with my finger would pop out
of place just because the ligaments were stretched.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Yeah, and the thing is, I mean it wasn't really
a violent play or anything like that. I mean, I'm
guessing he probably takes more contact every day in practice
of what we saw in the Blue White game. I mean,
they were not It wasn't just one of those plays
where you why the heck are they doing that? So
it's just I don't think there's any way you can
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prevent that because you've got a practice that's basically what
they were doing. But hopefully it's not going to be
any big issue. I mean, Jade Quainton's you knew he
was hurt when you signed him, so when he will
be back still remains to be seen. He had these
surgery I think in March, so it's only been what
seven months now since that surgery, so it takes a
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little bit longer than that to get back from that.
So hopeful. I'm just hoping he's back for the Star
at SEC play with him. That just gives all these
other guys more chances to play up until then. I
think they should be fine point guards in one spot.
They're not overloaded in depth. But if I'm not mistaken,
I believe Denzel Laboratin played a significant amount of point
guard at Florida last year when their starting point guard
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was heard or in foul trouble. So he can slide
over there and play. And you know, Jasper thinks he
can play point guard. And a good great thing about it.
You got two big time exhibition games coming up to
let all those guys get some experience doing that. So
if something happens to your regular season play a SEC
play or something, now that they're not thrown in there,
so maybe it'll turn out to be a weird blessing
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in disguise for Kentucky basketball.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Are you a proponent of the type, and are you
a proponent of against a team like Purdue, top ranked team,
one of the better teams that you try to get
these guys some confidence or just get them some reps,
and it hurts your confidence. I'm telling you, I didn't
know a lot about Devon. Ask you, and very early off,
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I started feeling really sorry for Devon as because I
think he was asked to do too much. I think
it was the position, the light, the light, maybe because
of Kentucky or maybe just because it's a high level
Division one basketball. He was overwhelmed. And I think sometimes
it's hard for you to recover if you get out
there and feel like, hey, you know what me in
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the NFL in college. The first couple of times I
was thrust it into a position, I was all right,
you find out very quickly, Ay, I can do this.
I can compete with these guys, and you know, there's
gonna be ups and downs, there's gonna be ebbs and flows.
But I have also been around some people. I've also
coached people that you put them into the line light
and all of a sudden they start to cower and
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things don't go right. And I think these guys do
have confidence at this level. But just being in the
University of Kentucky and everybody wants to prove something to you,
I don't want to throw people in the early Like
I said, Jasper is still a little young guy. Young
Aberdeen's a little older, so it's kind of like, Eh,
if things don't go right, do recover for it? It's
my point, Or do you have total confidence that things
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will go right?
Speaker 6 (25:04):
I think that that Aberdeen and Jasper, it would take
a lot more than anything could happen in one game
to shake either one of their confidence. So I think
they will be fine no matter what I think. Eventually,
they're probably gonna have to play a point guard because
Jalen can't play forty minutes a game all season long,
so somebody's going to be back up point guard anyway.
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So I don't think you could shake their confidence, ay
more than I think you could ever shake Tim Couch,
Craig East or Anthony White's confidence. I believe you guys
always believed what you were going to do, and it
didn't matter what happened. You believe the next play you
were going to make it work. And I think that's
just the way those two guys are, and maybe even
Colline Chandler or two. That's how they will be. So
I think they'll get through this okay. But again, after
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talking to who I talked to, I'm not near as
worried about it. It's going to be any long term
lingering problem or anything for Jalen unless something happens again.
And I guess, as you said, that would be the worry.
Would it be more apt to happen again because it's
happened the one time?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Now? Yeah, And that was another thing I was going
to ask. I'm not certain that I've known Colin to
be an isolated ball handler where you know he you know,
breaking through presses, whatever. But I guess we do have
enough confidence to him to put the ball on the
floor a couple of times to break a press, maybe
you know, get some passes up there. But have you
ever known Colin to be an isolated ball handler and
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isolation now?
Speaker 6 (26:26):
That certainly would not be his strength. Bember, He had
to do it a few times last year in certain situations,
So I mean, I don't think he would want him
doing it thirty six minutes a game, but maybe he
could do it for you four minutes a game or
something like that. But or maybe they'll have a point
forward or point center like what they did last year
with Amari that'll help out in those situations. Like say
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to me, it's not a as long as you know
Jalen's going to eventually be back and not out a
long time, He's going to be Okay. Maybe this forces
you to have to get some experience and experiment around
a little bit more right now than what you would
have in the long run, and it'll help you make
you a better team for the end of the season
or something like this happens again.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
But is there no concern that going into an optimistic season.
I believe poping in the fan base of really optimistic
about the team. You know, the the all different positions
we have, I mean the sizes we have, like we
got something from seem like we have a person for
every element. We have shooters, we have dribblers, we got defenders,
we got big bodies. I do I love the part
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of you know, getting experienced and you know, seeing how
different combinations is going to work. But without a guy
that you're gonna rely heavily on, and we do try
some other people. By the time he comes back, you
have to try to refine continuity. Do you think that
plays a part with us or do you think the
experience with different combinations are going to be far greater
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than having to work Jalen back into the lineup. If
it stends over a couple of weeks a month or so.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
Now, if it extends for a month or more than, yeah,
I think I would worry a little bit about it.
But like I say this, from what I was told,
I'm not worrying about it extending a month, So I
think it's gonna be okay. I was gonna stay optimistic.
Anthony I'm will be optimistic. You always tell me to
be more optimistic.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Of being optimistic, we are, but you know on this
show we've always been really realistic as well. So because
I don't know if we expected what Butler went through
last year to linger as long as it did, and
I don't know how much it affected you know, our
lineups or you know the production we had, but Butler's
lingered pretty or you think his lot worse than what
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Butler experienced last year.
Speaker 6 (28:42):
No, I don't think it's near as bad.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I mean, I mean maybe that Butler's was a lot worse.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
Yeah, And I think because it was on the shooting arm.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
It is his is not on his shooting arm and
his primary bow handling ar. I mean, you have to
use his left hand, but if he had his choice,
he's gonna use his right hand, just like Jalen can
use his right hand, but he's going to use his left.
So this was on his right shoulder, on his left shoulder.
So I think that makes a big difference. Because you
can remember when we had Lamont's day at last year,
they talked about when he wore that brace even when
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he go in for a layup, he couldn't fully extend
his arm to get the ball up on the board.
And I like that with that brace sound, so at
least Jalen won't have to worry about that if he
if he even has to wear it, and that's not
even a give. And I think that was just something
that was maybe discussed as a possibility just for precautionary
reasons yesterday, and I'm not even sure that will happen.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
A bow did you did you attend Blue White? What
was your take? Was it more energized than it looked
like from the videos the video Parson that we watched.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Uh, I thought it was a I don't know, kind
of a struggle a little bit between both. Now, definitely
the wind was sucked out of Memorial Colisee when Jalen
went down. I also thought it's gonna be hard to
keep Malachi off the court this season. So I don't know,
I just I came away with it just not I
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don't want to be down, but I just wasn't excited
about the Blue White scrimmage as I have been in
the past. Not saying I'm not excited about the year,
but I don't know, it just really didn't give me
much to go on other than I enjoyed seeing Jasper playing.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Yeah, and that's where I think kind of Mark Pope's thing.
I don't think Mark Pope is a flashy guy. I
don't think his brand of basketball it is good basketball.
So that's kind of what I took from. You know,
the guys were playing basketball. It wasn't a showcase of
skills or dunks or something.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
And I'm not disappointed by being there. I enjoyed being there.
I liked being there. It was fun to watch something
to do on a Friday night and involves Kentucky basketball
and Memorial College. And I don't mean to be down
on it, but I just did not walk away learning
anything that maybe we didn't already talk about previously. And
of course that will all come after Friday night and
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the next exhibition game next week against Georgetown. We're gonna
learn more and more about this team. But I did
like the elam ending towards the end, just to kind
of throw a wrinkle into it all.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
I'm with you, Larry, I kind of curious, and bo
I'm kind of curious as what you. I was a
little bit more surprised that Malachi's size. I don't know
if he's put a lot of weight on since high school,
but uh, he was a little more physical than I
expected them because when I watched him in high school,
but he was more dominant to most people. So I
don't think he had to be extremely physical, but he
did surprise me about how physical he is and just
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even his physical stature.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
Yeah, I think he would be the one guy you
would call who's been the biggest surprise from summer practice
to now on the Kentucky team, because I thought Malachi
would probably be a year away from being able to
maybe be a significant contributor to him at all. But
I think just the more you keep hearing and the
more chances you get to see he's doing really really well.
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I mean, I think this scrimmage gets do. It's something
I'm really anxious to see how Malachi handles himself there.
I think he could be the one guy that benefits
from this early season or exhibition season competition more than anybody.
Probably probably him a Jasper would be the two I think.
So I'm really really looking forward to seeing what both
of them are going to do. But I think Malachi
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has got a chance to be way better than even
I anticipated he might be.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Yeah, that's what I what I took from looking the other.
I think the other takeaway and nothing I know that
it may come across. It sounds a little bit more
negative than it should, but it seems like Otagan I
have no worries about old Way. It seems like he
was kind of pretty much in cruise control. Like you
didn't see anything you didn't get well, I mean you
didn't see what you would expect from like the explosiveness
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and the things, but you didn't see anything. That's kind
of like, I'm worried about him. It just seemed like
he was in cruise control. Is that expedition or exhibition?
Is that an expisit exhibition mindset? Or you just anything
to see here? Nothing to worry about here.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
I think over the years, if you look back, there's
been very few times at Kentucky's best players have shown
in the Blue White Game, especially now. I mean, you've
got big blue manness a week ago, which they all
really enjoy and have fun, and then in less than
a week or a week from when the Blue White Game,
you've got a game where gets Purdue coming up? Yeah,
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I imagine it's kind of hard to get overly psyched
for the Blue White when you're practicing against those guys
every day. I've never been a big fan of the
Blue White anyway, but again, I've never read a whole
lot into what anybody does in Blue White, because I
want to see when it matters more what they do,
and when it matters I think otego as you said,
he'll be this fine.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Mark Pope did announce before the Blue White scrimmage that
Away would be on some playing restrictions, so he probably
was on cruise control a little bit.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
That makes sense to me. I can see that, and
that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Let me add something to about the Blue White scrimmage.
It seemed like there was a really really nice attempt
by UK to make up for the autograph debacle last
week at the fan fest, because as soon as Mark
Pope announced that the team would be doing autographs, there
was a massive storm of people that came down to
the sidelines of the court trying to get autographs. So
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it seemed like they were trying to make good on it.
Just a little bit. Can't get them all, but you know,
good for the kids that were at the fan fest
and they were able to come Friday night and get
them autographs.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Gee, I think, yeah, I figured they would. I would.
I wouldn't be surprised. Maybe they heard it on Sunday
Morning Sports Talk. Who knows keep listening to Sunday Morning Sports.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Actually I did run into a few people saying they
listened to us on Sunday Morning Sports Talk and they
enjoyed the positive spin we put on things.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Yeah, So thanks for listening and we.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Will continue this show after this. You were listening to
Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk on news radio s WLAB.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
This is Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk, presented by
the lead Troop Barde Radio Network on six thirty WLAP.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk, I mean
Anthony White, along with Larry Vaught and producer Bo Robinson.
This hour Sunday Morning Sports Talk had brought you back
Country Boy brewing. Short segment here, but nonetheless a segment
at all. Larry Father's quite a few things going on.
(35:34):
I don't know if I'm not gonna bring up Little
for Football just for whatever reason, but by the time
this show is over, I'm going to ask you about that,
Larry Vaught, because I'm just curious of how some people
feel about it, how some friendships are mending because of that.
But one thing I did want to ask you about
off our current football, our defense. Our defense played a
(35:56):
really good game this week. I think our corners were more.
Hopefully we will Hopefully we will get healthy. And I
think maybe some people are checked out, but I do
think the effort is there. I think we found some
things out offensively, and I'm not concerned about that. But
this is something we talked about before, and I gave
you insight on why. I didn't know if it was
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a good decision or not. As much as I loved
the kid, I didn't know if it was a good
decision or not. But I don't think unless you have
a dynamic returner, I don't think it's good to have
defensive players on punt return as the punt return guy
because there's so many things going on, And Larry Vald,
I don't know if you know this or not. If
the punt returner returns, say it's your safety, say it's
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a cornerback. If he returns the ball seventy yards for
a touchdown, what happens next he has to defense if
he gets burnt. Say you get burnt or something happens,
just so anything mentally happens to you, and they're going
to punt the ball to you. Do you think your
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mind it's clear? Maybe you got your bail run, maybe
you got shook in the in the uh in the hole.
Do you think that plays on their mindset?
Speaker 6 (37:09):
I would have to think so. Yes.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
If you if you muff one punt, do you think
you're susceptible to muffing another punt?
Speaker 6 (37:19):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Okay, So months ago when I told you, I don't know,
I love time and I think he can't. I don't know.
Put it like this, do you think there was a
return on investment by having him as a punt returner?
And do you think he's going to return continue as
the punt returner of the weeks going forward?
Speaker 6 (37:37):
Well, since he didn't end the game as a punt returner,
I guess would be no.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Well that could have just been because at that point
in time, we just wanted to clear his head. But
I always wanted his head clear anyways, I didn't want
to return to the punt. But again, we he doesn't
return a lot of them because we're not. We're just
not having an opportunity to return to a lot of punts.
So it's really a fair catcher, you know, just a
regular catch is not like you know, we're setting up
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exotic return games where we're trying to get them to
break loose. So just take them off. And I would say,
and I wanted to say do it before this point
because now the way you sounded as if maybe it's
a disciplinary thing or it's a negative known I had
a positive spin on it. We just don't want defensive
players on there. And I can give you numerous reasons
why we don't want defensive players as your deep guy.
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But when we cook, when we come back, we'll have
shows on to talk about UK volleyball will be interesting
because at three o'clock they take on the Florida Gators
and we're looking forward to it. We'll be back after
this year. Listening to stockyards Banks send them on the
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This is Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk presented by
the lead Troop Bordge Radio Network on six point thirty WLAP.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Welcome back to Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk on
Anthony White along with Larry Vaught and Jack Pilgrim, coming
to you from Clark's Main Street Market Studio in downtown Lexington, Kentucky. Return,
refreshed and refuse talking about UK football tough overtime loss
(00:29):
to the Texas Longhorns here in Lexington, homecoming weekend, Keenland
fall meat, A lot of things going on, Blue and
White games this weekend. We got Florida playing volleyball over
Memorial College Center.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I was going to say, there's so much going on.
You got Scarefest happening at Central Bank Center. So much
was happening. The entire city was gridlocked.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I didn't know, Scar, I didn't know that was going on. Ye,
traffic was a mess on Friday night. That sounds about right,
even Friday afternoon. But there were some accidents. Yeah, there
was an accident a lot of things, so yeah, it was.
It took me and you what about thirty minutes north
of Georgetown, both.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Not north of Georgetown, No, I live in Lexington. I
mean where you're from. Oh, where I'm from. I'm from
northern Kentucky. But we can go all the way back
to Georgetown. Sure, let's do that.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Oh no. So I was coming back from Georgetown, okay.
And it took me and my sister and my mother
two hours and fifteen minutes yep to get back to Lexington.
And I live in North Lexington, right off the freeway.
I live right off of the freeway.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
My parents came from Georgetown on Friday to go to
the Blue White Game yep. And it took them almost
three hours from Georgetown to get to Memorial Coliseum. And
I told them, do not go downtown. Do not go downtown,
Do not go by Rapperena. I get a call two
hours later, the hell, all these people dressed up for downtown.
(02:01):
What's going on? I said, That's why I told you
not to go downtown.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
How do you get to how do you get the Reparena?
Not going downtown? I mean, uh, Memorial Coliseum without going downtown.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Oh you cut across I have to, you can cut
across Oliver Lewis Way. I told him not to go downtown,
go go to Memorial Coliseum. Will you can cut across
Oliver Lewis Way to get into campus and Broadway. That's
where I wanted.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Them to go.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
But they went downtown okay, and stopped at Scarefest.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Okay, no big deal.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
But it was a mess on Friday, and.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I absolutely agree. I was stuck in it. Let's get
back to the phone lines and see what Larry has
to say. Larry has returned. What do you got for?
Is Larry?
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Well? Can you hear me?
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Ask me?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
We can now?
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Okay, I guess I was sitting in the own. I
changed songs, say you know what's a frustrating about me?
For something? That older guy called he's older and made
a call it in And see, I've seen this over
the year so many times, like you said the Marquigue saying,
and you go back opposite in Kentucky playing Tennessee and
they blocked the field goal. And then I've seen Jerry
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Lorenzen he grave him by the hand. We had Florida
Bee and they get over in the air section, and it's
just so many things over the years that we we well.
The LSU game, I was there that game. They told
to hell of Merton bounced off one player, and they
went in so many things over the years as we've seen.
That's why Kentucky fans that are older especially have seen
all this stuff. And I kind of thought maybe we
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got pasted that a few years ago when Mark Stroughs
first came here, we were winning a lot of these
close games. But things like we've kind of went back
to the old days, you know, of having the game.
You know practically well, we out play teams. You know,
the stats said we outplayed them all, you know, real good.
But but the scorer is always they win. But you know,
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as far as the game, when he went for it
for fort Trice said, don't do it. Kicksfield go That's
that's my first instinct say. But of course you had
a lot of people that gets mad at him too,
and and if you don't go for it, why do
you go for it? So it's kind of one of
them deals that I guess he just wanted to take
a chance and try to win it. But you don't
go over top of a brick wall. I mean, when
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he done that dive, I thought, oh my gosh, he's
going to head a wall and he didn't. He Then
I said, we're beat because their field goal kicker is
a good kicker. All they had to do was kick
a field goal. But you know, you've seen this coming
so many times, and you sit in there thinking, why
can't we have this kind of luck? You know, better
luck than this. You know, some of we make our
own luck. But some of these choices, I don't know.
(04:33):
I thought, you know, like to say, Anthony, you know,
there's so many things over the years that just frustrates
those fans that you know, you're wondering, why can't it
happen to us? You know? And I ask one question, Larry,
if you was going to pick coach, either would you
pick Indiana coach or Vanderbilt? I would kick Indiana coach
when you right now.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
I was voting today, Yes, I would go with Indiana.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
You got eleven million dollars to pay him, Larry or Larry,
either one of you all got lit million dollars a
pound that Indiana paint.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Him eleven megion and when they hired.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Him, No, they just signed him last week. All he
did well, it turns out to be eleven eleven eleven
is some change, right, Larry?
Speaker 6 (05:16):
Yeah, it's only ninety two million dollars for a year.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Yes, No, they just yet Larry up from eleven. They
just they just signed an extension and it puts him
about almost so I think about eleven million dollars a year.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
So if he turns out to this like what Mark
has right, they could be hurting, you know. I mean
he got You got to get the guy credit. He's
back up two years a row. Where they can keep
this up or not? I mean, you know they they
blowing out everybody. I've been trying of waiting when player
at Old House State, see what happens with I mean
the same as with Vandy. When this quarterback leaves, I'm
gonna see how good bandy is. You know, this guy
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here seems like he just got savvy about him, that
he just knows how to get things done. But I
will say that our quarterback, if Texas quarterb this Heischler
material irs is to you, I mean he out played him.
I mean we did everything ship win the game. I mean,
really way y'all say it.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I agree with you, Larry, thank you, thank you for
the call. Larry. I absolutely agree with that. And Jack,
before we switch over to basketball really quickly, I did
want to ask based off what Larry was saying, because,
like I said, you've been You've been pretty reasonable throughout
this football season. You know, I got got on you
a little bit, but you've been absolutely reasonable and you've
been right more than not. But Larry did bring up,
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and this is something I find interesting that the Bluegrass
Miracle a lot of the Mark Higgs. I don't remember
the Mark Higgs. I was not really falling Kentucky at
that point in time. I guess you can bring up
the not the Tennessee game without without going to Randall Kyle.
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But we also stopped hester on the number on the
LSU year when LSU won the national championship. We also
stopped him on shorten a short yardage in overtime to
end the game. So but all the things he brought
up were not all under Mark Stoops. So it's just
kind of the history of UK football. But everybody seeing
sounds as if Mark Stoops is making the most bone
(07:14):
headed decisions. And I'm not gonna say he's not. He's
made plenty of them in the past couple of years.
But the history they were talking about is saying that
you know, this has been going on for years with us,
So does why wise Mark Stoops catch all this that
he's incompetent or he can't manage. When it's been happening
for years, how much money does Mark Stoops make? Many
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million dollars wasn't a thing until how many Brooks those
guys are only I mean how I was only making
like one point three so millions of dollars. Contract hasn't
become a thing over the past couple of years. Mark
Stoups hasn't been a head coach for thirteen years, so
even with inflation, he was gonna come up from three
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million whatever upto is going to be overday.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Yeah, but that's that's just what we do. As you know,
we pocket watch. We we when things go like it's
the same thing with Ni l and you see the
Hunter Dickinson's of the world and you get the you know,
the big dollar transfer portal editions or whatever, and when
they're not performing up to the standard of the school
or their own coaching ability or playing ability or whatever
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the case is. You know, people go directly to the hey,
well you're paid X number of dollars to you know,
it's you at your job, me at my job. If
you're not performing up to the standard, that your employer.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
You know, asks of you.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
They say, hey, you know, we're we're paying you this
to do your job, and you're not doing it well enough.
And that's why, you know, you on a day to
day basis, you know, the average person gets gets fired
over those things, or you know, they they're they're you
know that they have some type of you know, meeting
or some type of performance check or whatever the case is.
(09:03):
So it's the exact same thing with with Mark Steuke's
it's just you know, highlighted and sharp eyed and underlying
an exclamation mark because he is a top ten paid
coach in college football, and so every little decision that
has made, whether it's his direct decision for you know,
the play call again, we've said that, We've we've talked
about how you know stops Stoops always says it's always
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on the offensive coordinator, and you know he distances himself
from that. But at the end of the day, it's
it's you know, the person in charge is the one
that's held accountable for the little kind of nickel and
dimes stuff. So yeah, like I you know, is he
the direct cause of some of the downfalls this season,
this game, whatever the case is you know, not not
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always the case, but he is paid to be the
front line, uh you know, first line or defense for
for public criticism.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
That's because that's that's what he's paid to do.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
So uh yeah, I I just think it's circle out
of circumstance. But also you know his role and his
responsibility to to take the brunt of it because he's
he's paid, He's paid accordingly.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
That is understandable. Let's get to the phone lines and
see what Doyle has to say. Good morning, Doyle, what
do you got for us?
Speaker 7 (10:19):
Hey? Uh, Anthony, my son and you are friends golf
and buddies.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
So you know who I am, Yes, sir, indeed, yeah,
how you doing doing good? Doing good? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (10:31):
And not get your key out of the ignition that
this means that your baddy is dead and your whole
computer just flows up inside your car. So I think
if you charge your baddy, get a little charge bull
and shift kick right back out. But anyway, I don't
understand and and and and I didn't listen to the
(10:52):
I didn't listen to the uh Post show, which with
with with Coach Dukes. I don't understand the reluctancy that
he has in playing these big teams when and this
is this is what, this is my piece and you
don't have nothing to lose. Your third and one can't
get it. You're fourth and one, you can't get it.
You're in over today, You're you're you're your fourth and
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one kick the field goal. I don't understand that. And
then you know, I don't know if he told his
office coordinator in the bus or what. I just don't
understand it. You know, the same thing happened last year.
I think it was against George or somebody he had.
You have nothing to lose in these big games. You're
you're underdog, and you know this. Maybe I'm just seeing
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it in a different light, but I don't know what
what say you are you guys? Have you talked about
a mischief for about half an hour?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Uh? Thank you for the call, Doyle. Uh Larry Vaught
is I think you on both sides. I think he
did take so when people so people say, and you
have nothing to lose, take risks. I believe that's what
he did by going for it. I think going for
the field goal is more so settling. Larry or you
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agree with Doyle that take the points and then just
you know, see how the thing plays off. I don't know.
I don't think he can win at this point, just
because I think the fan base is already fed up.
But based off of what Doyle said, do you think
that he do? You do you think it is more
so taken the risk by taking the field goal and
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keep playing it out as opposed to taking the opportunity
to score.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
I can't tell you I feel, Anthony. When you have
the bomb first in overtime, you've got to get points
because if you don't, you're just basically saying the game's
overcause even you get a touchdown, they can still get
the touchdown and tie. But if you get no points, yeah,
I think you've got to get points. And especially if
you're going to run the same damn place it's been
stopping the whole game. Why run that? And again, as
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emphasized bush Hampton said, we made that decision. So I
think that's what they brought Dante out l N four.
It was to be this short yard as specialist. That's
what they were going to do, and it had no
chance to work. So I think you've got to do
it now. I do think if if Texas had had
scored a touchdown. If you could take a bat a
(13:15):
field goal, he'd got blistered for that. But I still
think the smart thing you've got to do there is
you've got to get points on the board and trust
your defense that hadn't given up how many drives that
Texas had of twenty five yards during the game two
or I mean, they've gone three and out every time
but once in the second half. Hadn't they trust your defense?
If they were going to give up more than a
(13:36):
field goal, then the worst you're gonna do is you're
gonna play overtime again. But I don't get it. I
I didn't want to ask you on that second down
play down there at the goal line when Cutter rolled out,
just from looking on TV.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
If he hits the corner, yep.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
That's what.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
Yeah. Again, I can't fault the guy that he baby
saw something we didn't. But I thought if he just
stayed outside, I thought.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
He was going he definitely could. I think he could
at least dove and knocked up the pieline and that
would be counted as a score. But yeah, that's what.
I don't know what he's I'm with you, I don't
know what he saw to stop. But he's not a
speed merchant, so he's not tuned to you know, let me,
let me use my speed and things. I was thinking
the same thing. But like said, he's young. The rust
is the rust is flying off a cutter. So he's
(14:20):
he's he's maturing, he's he's coming along. That's yes. I
guess that's a learning, learning thing. Once he watched the film,
I think he'll be.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
Wi is flowing. He just gonna run over somebody's butt.
He was stricked to go to the zone. That was
the shortest path that he was going.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah, I agree with you. We will be back after this.
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financial needs. Jack Pilgrim, we did have a Blue and
White game this weekend, and I must say me personally,
I think I don't know if I expect I was underwhelmed.
I really really impressed about a lot of things that
(15:34):
I saw, and it maybe that's what they were out there,
just having fun time. You know, usually it's like a
dunk fest or showing something and maybe our defense is
just that good, whereas it's tough for us to get
a lot of shots off. But what was your assessment
on the Blue and White game? Am I wrong fulfilling
underwhelmed from what I witnessed or is that what it
(15:57):
was planning to be?
Speaker 4 (15:59):
No, I don't. I mean, it just depends on what
you're looking for. Because on one side of the aisle,
you could say that that was the toughest most competitive
Blue White game or scrimmage or sequence, whatever we want
to call that, because it was, you know, one quarter
of play in an.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Elam ending and they called it.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
So I didn't really love the setup. But I think
you can understand where Pope is coming from. When your
you know, star point guard goes down with a shoulder injury,
he kind of lets the air out of the building
and doesn't you know, want him to say, let's keep
this thing, keep this thing rolling. I think that the
mood was kind of gone at that point. So yeah,
I think all eyes are on Jalen Low. But outside
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of of that, I thought that they were super competitive
and and you know, defense was up, and they were
playing with a level of physicality and toughness that we
haven't seen in that event in a very very long time.
So that creates an ugly, uh, you know, ugly performance
of kind of defensive haymakers hoping for you know, one
(16:59):
offensive side. I slightly outmatched the defense, so that was
I appreciated the tenacity that we saw, even if it
led to a kind of you know, not the sexiest
product in the world. But yeah, all eyes were on
jay Lon Low and Larry Vaught, our very own Larry
Vaught just put out a very important update that I'd
(17:19):
like to hear from him on that as well. But yeah,
i'd heard nothing but good things about Low since since then.
I think it was more of a scary thing. I
watched the training staff kind of RePOP it back into
place while he was laying there just inexcruciating pain on
the ground there at the Memorial Coliseum. So I watched it,
didn't you know, wasn't able to move his arm at all,
(17:40):
brought him back to the to the locker room. Pope
said afterward that they were going to do additional imaging
on Saturday, and apparently all the imaging came back mostly
clean and definitely more good news and bad more. It's
going to be about pain tolerance, and you know, does
this turn into a Lamont Butler kind of deal where
it's something that you know, randomly pops up every once
(18:01):
in a while. I think that's going to be something
that we need to monitor, but definitely not something that's
going to be long lasting, something that's going to linger
into you know, it was the out for the years
you have to have surgery, you know, not all of
those kind of big picture questions that we had concerns
about leaving the event. I don't think that's something we
have to we have to worry about any longer. So, Larry,
(18:22):
I want to want to give you credit where to
do because you're you're update with awesome. Well, what what
did you put on your site this morning?
Speaker 6 (18:30):
Well, I talk the source that I trust one thousand
percent who said that the MRI came back negative, that
there's a little question about and I didn't know this.
Maybe you did, Jack, but that he took a fall
in June, and maybe that it kind of contributed to this.
Maybe not no way to know for sure, but again
(18:51):
just kind of checking, and you were right, they just
didn't totally dislocate and they were just kind of maneuvered
back in place there on the court. That optimistic. Optimistically,
maybe you get to play against Purdue. Probably not because
it wouldn't be the real reason to rush him back
that soon. But as far as it being anything of
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a real long term problem, don't think so. There was
some talk. It was from what I was told, it
was discussed that he might have to wear that harness
like Lamont Butler did last year, just maybe for precautions
or at least for a while. But the big difference
there would be it was on Lamar Butler's shooting arm,
(19:31):
in the arm that he uses most of dribble and
do things with with Jayalen, it's on that off arm,
so it shouldn't be as big a deal. But overall,
the person that I talked to thought that things that
there would be no huge problems going forward for any
long term, so that just a matter of like I say,
this kind of nothing that rehab. Wait that when you
decide you want to let him get back out there.
(19:53):
But I don't think there's any concern that this is
going to be dear as big an issues what Lamont's
was last year?
Speaker 2 (20:00):
And Jack, what do you look at as far as
if Jalen doesn't go against Purdue next week? Uh? Well,
I guess this week coming up? Who do we look
at the point guard? Are?
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Goodbye committee? Jasper?
Speaker 4 (20:13):
By committee?
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Jasper?
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Jasper is in Denzel Aberdeen's kind of staggering minutes and
in trade and off in that role and they're both
very capable.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Good deal. Follow Jack Pilgrim for more basketball updates. We
will continue this show after the break. You're listening to
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Speaker 2 (20:45):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony White,
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a country Boy brewing before we get back to football.
Larry Vaughla did is kind of to tap on some
couple of things about the basketball season, and both brought
up a good thing and brought up a good topic
(21:06):
over the break. And I'm not sure if it's been
what the past three or maybe maybe it happens every
year that we have a significant injury before the season
even starts, that you're down a person and now you're
when you're down with one of the top players in
the country at a key position. Uh, maybe we just
(21:28):
don't practice a whole lot, or don't practice so toughly
so we can get into the season without any injuries.
Because Bo, that was the only thing he was looking for.
He said, come out of the game, everybody clean and uninjured.
And that did not take place. But if it was
an old injury, Larry, I'm not sure if you understand,
if if you uh, I guess, what is it hyper
(21:50):
stand or if it pops out of place on your
ligaments get stretched. It tends to do that quite often.
I dislocated my finger one time playing basketball and I'm
just catching the basketball with my finger would pop out
of place just because the ligaments were stretched.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Yeah, and the thing is, I mean it wasn't really
a violent play or anything like that. I mean, I'm
guessing he probably takes more contact every day in practice
of what we saw in the Blue White game. I mean,
they were not It wasn't just one of those plays
where you why the heck are they doing that? So
it's just I don't think there's any way you can
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prevent that because you've got a practice that's basically what
they were doing. But hopefully it's not going to be
any big issue. I mean, Jade Quainton's you knew he
was hurt when you signed him, so when he will
be back still remains to be seen. He had these
surgery I think in March, so it's only been what
seven months now since that surgery, so it takes a
(22:50):
little bit longer than that to get back from that.
So hopeful. I'm just hoping he's back for the Star
at SEC play with him. That just gives all these
other guys more chances to play up until then. I
think they should be fine point guards in one spot.
They're not overloaded in depth. But if I'm not mistaken,
I believe Denzel Laboratin played a significant amount of point
guard at Florida last year when their starting point guard
(23:13):
was heard or in foul trouble. So he can slide
over there and play. And you know, Jasper thinks he
can play point guard. And a good great thing about it.
You got two big time exhibition games coming up to
let all those guys get some experience doing that. So
if something happens to your regular season play a SEC
play or something, now that they're not thrown in there,
so maybe it'll turn out to be a weird blessing
(23:34):
in disguise for Kentucky basketball.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Are you a proponent of the type, and are you
a proponent of against a team like Purdue, top ranked team,
one of the better teams that you try to get
these guys some confidence or just get them some reps,
and it hurts your confidence. I'm telling you, I didn't
know a lot about Devon. Ask you, and very early off,
(23:57):
I started feeling really sorry for Devon as because I
think he was asked to do too much. I think
it was the position, the light, the light, maybe because
of Kentucky or maybe just because it's a high level
Division one basketball. He was overwhelmed. And I think sometimes
it's hard for you to recover if you get out
there and feel like, hey, you know what me in
(24:18):
the NFL in college. The first couple of times I
was thrust it into a position, I was all right,
you find out very quickly, Ay, I can do this.
I can compete with these guys, and you know, there's
gonna be ups and downs, there's gonna be ebbs and flows.
But I have also been around some people. I've also
coached people that you put them into the line light
and all of a sudden they start to cower and
(24:38):
things don't go right. And I think these guys do
have confidence at this level. But just being in the
University of Kentucky and everybody wants to prove something to you,
I don't want to throw people in the early Like
I said, Jasper is still a little young guy. Young
Aberdeen's a little older, so it's kind of like, Eh,
if things don't go right, do recover for it? It's
my point, Or do you have total confidence that things
(25:00):
will go right?
Speaker 6 (25:04):
I think that that Aberdeen and Jasper, it would take
a lot more than anything could happen in one game
to shake either one of their confidence. So I think
they will be fine no matter what I think. Eventually,
they're probably gonna have to play a point guard because
Jalen can't play forty minutes a game all season long,
so somebody's going to be back up point guard anyway.
(25:25):
So I don't think you could shake their confidence, ay
more than I think you could ever shake Tim Couch,
Craig East or Anthony White's confidence. I believe you guys
always believed what you were going to do, and it
didn't matter what happened. You believe the next play you
were going to make it work. And I think that's
just the way those two guys are, and maybe even
Colline Chandler or two. That's how they will be. So
I think they'll get through this okay. But again, after
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talking to who I talked to, I'm not near as
worried about it. It's going to be any long term
lingering problem or anything for Jalen unless something happens again.
And I guess, as you said, that would be the worry.
Would it be more apt to happen again because it's
happened the one time?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Now? Yeah, And that was another thing I was going
to ask. I'm not certain that I've known Colin to
be an isolated ball handler where you know he you know,
breaking through presses, whatever. But I guess we do have
enough confidence to him to put the ball on the
floor a couple of times to break a press, maybe
you know, get some passes up there. But have you
ever known Colin to be an isolated ball handler and
(26:24):
isolation now?
Speaker 6 (26:26):
That certainly would not be his strength. Bember, He had
to do it a few times last year in certain situations,
So I mean, I don't think he would want him
doing it thirty six minutes a game, but maybe he
could do it for you four minutes a game or
something like that. But or maybe they'll have a point
forward or point center like what they did last year
with Amari that'll help out in those situations. Like say
(26:48):
to me, it's not a as long as you know
Jalen's going to eventually be back and not out a
long time, He's going to be Okay. Maybe this forces
you to have to get some experience and experiment around
a little bit more right now than what you would
have in the long run, and it'll help you make
you a better team for the end of the season
or something like this happens again.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
But is there no concern that going into an optimistic season.
I believe poping in the fan base of really optimistic
about the team. You know, the the all different positions
we have, I mean the sizes we have, like we
got something from seem like we have a person for
every element. We have shooters, we have dribblers, we got defenders,
we got big bodies. I do I love the part
(27:32):
of you know, getting experienced and you know, seeing how
different combinations is going to work. But without a guy
that you're gonna rely heavily on, and we do try
some other people. By the time he comes back, you
have to try to refine continuity. Do you think that
plays a part with us or do you think the
experience with different combinations are going to be far greater
(27:54):
than having to work Jalen back into the lineup. If
it stends over a couple of weeks a month or so.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
Now, if it extends for a month or more than, yeah,
I think I would worry a little bit about it.
But like I say this, from what I was told,
I'm not worrying about it extending a month, So I
think it's gonna be okay. I was gonna stay optimistic.
Anthony I'm will be optimistic. You always tell me to
be more optimistic.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Of being optimistic, we are, but you know on this
show we've always been really realistic as well. So because
I don't know if we expected what Butler went through
last year to linger as long as it did, and
I don't know how much it affected you know, our
lineups or you know the production we had, but Butler's
lingered pretty or you think his lot worse than what
(28:39):
Butler experienced last year.
Speaker 6 (28:42):
No, I don't think it's near as bad.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I mean, I mean maybe that Butler's was a lot worse.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
Yeah, And I think because it was on the shooting arm.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
It is his is not on his shooting arm and
his primary bow handling ar. I mean, you have to
use his left hand, but if he had his choice,
he's gonna use his right hand, just like Jalen can
use his right hand, but he's going to use his left.
So this was on his right shoulder, on his left shoulder.
So I think that makes a big difference. Because you
can remember when we had Lamont's day at last year,
they talked about when he wore that brace even when
(29:14):
he go in for a layup, he couldn't fully extend
his arm to get the ball up on the board.
And I like that with that brace sound, so at
least Jalen won't have to worry about that if he
if he even has to wear it, and that's not
even a give. And I think that was just something
that was maybe discussed as a possibility just for precautionary
reasons yesterday, and I'm not even sure that will happen.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
A bow did you did you attend Blue White? What
was your take? Was it more energized than it looked
like from the videos the video Parson that we watched.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Uh, I thought it was a I don't know, kind
of a struggle a little bit between both. Now, definitely
the wind was sucked out of Memorial Colisee when Jalen
went down. I also thought it's gonna be hard to
keep Malachi off the court this season. So I don't know,
I just I came away with it just not I
(30:09):
don't want to be down, but I just wasn't excited
about the Blue White scrimmage as I have been in
the past. Not saying I'm not excited about the year,
but I don't know, it just really didn't give me
much to go on other than I enjoyed seeing Jasper playing.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Yeah, and that's where I think kind of Mark Pope's thing.
I don't think Mark Pope is a flashy guy. I
don't think his brand of basketball it is good basketball.
So that's kind of what I took from. You know,
the guys were playing basketball. It wasn't a showcase of
skills or dunks or something.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
And I'm not disappointed by being there. I enjoyed being there.
I liked being there. It was fun to watch something
to do on a Friday night and involves Kentucky basketball
and Memorial College. And I don't mean to be down
on it, but I just did not walk away learning
anything that maybe we didn't already talk about previously. And
of course that will all come after Friday night and
(30:58):
the next exhibition game next week against Georgetown. We're gonna
learn more and more about this team. But I did
like the elam ending towards the end, just to kind
of throw a wrinkle into it all.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
I'm with you, Larry, I kind of curious, and bo
I'm kind of curious as what you. I was a
little bit more surprised that Malachi's size. I don't know
if he's put a lot of weight on since high school,
but uh, he was a little more physical than I
expected them because when I watched him in high school,
but he was more dominant to most people. So I
don't think he had to be extremely physical, but he
did surprise me about how physical he is and just
(31:31):
even his physical stature.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
Yeah, I think he would be the one guy you
would call who's been the biggest surprise from summer practice
to now on the Kentucky team, because I thought Malachi
would probably be a year away from being able to
maybe be a significant contributor to him at all. But
I think just the more you keep hearing and the
more chances you get to see he's doing really really well.
(31:58):
I mean, I think this scrimmage gets do. It's something
I'm really anxious to see how Malachi handles himself there.
I think he could be the one guy that benefits
from this early season or exhibition season competition more than anybody.
Probably probably him a Jasper would be the two I think.
So I'm really really looking forward to seeing what both
of them are going to do. But I think Malachi
(32:18):
has got a chance to be way better than even
I anticipated he might be.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Yeah, that's what I what I took from looking the other.
I think the other takeaway and nothing I know that
it may come across. It sounds a little bit more
negative than it should, but it seems like Otagan I
have no worries about old Way. It seems like he
was kind of pretty much in cruise control. Like you
didn't see anything you didn't get well, I mean you
didn't see what you would expect from like the explosiveness
(32:46):
and the things, but you didn't see anything. That's kind
of like, I'm worried about him. It just seemed like
he was in cruise control. Is that expedition or exhibition?
Is that an expisit exhibition mindset? Or you just anything
to see here? Nothing to worry about here.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
I think over the years, if you look back, there's
been very few times at Kentucky's best players have shown
in the Blue White Game, especially now. I mean, you've
got big blue manness a week ago, which they all
really enjoy and have fun, and then in less than
a week or a week from when the Blue White Game,
you've got a game where gets Purdue coming up? Yeah,
(33:26):
I imagine it's kind of hard to get overly psyched
for the Blue White when you're practicing against those guys
every day. I've never been a big fan of the
Blue White anyway, but again, I've never read a whole
lot into what anybody does in Blue White, because I
want to see when it matters more what they do,
and when it matters I think otego as you said,
he'll be this fine.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Mark Pope did announce before the Blue White scrimmage that
Away would be on some playing restrictions, so he probably
was on cruise control a little bit.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
That makes sense to me. I can see that, and
that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Let me add something to about the Blue White scrimmage.
It seemed like there was a really really nice attempt
by UK to make up for the autograph debacle last
week at the fan fest, because as soon as Mark
Pope announced that the team would be doing autographs, there
was a massive storm of people that came down to
the sidelines of the court trying to get autographs. So
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it seemed like they were trying to make good on it.
Just a little bit. Can't get them all, but you know,
good for the kids that were at the fan fest
and they were able to come Friday night and get
them autographs.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Gee, I think, yeah, I figured they would. I would.
I wouldn't be surprised. Maybe they heard it on Sunday
Morning Sports Talk. Who knows keep listening to Sunday Morning Sports.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Actually I did run into a few people saying they
listened to us on Sunday Morning Sports Talk and they
enjoyed the positive spin we put on things.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Yeah, So thanks for listening and we.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Will continue this show after this. You were listening to
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Speaker 1 (35:02):
This is Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk, presented by
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Speaker 2 (35:13):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk, I mean
Anthony White, along with Larry Vaught and producer Bo Robinson.
This hour Sunday Morning Sports Talk had brought you back
Country Boy brewing. Short segment here, but nonetheless a segment
at all. Larry Father's quite a few things going on.
(35:34):
I don't know if I'm not gonna bring up Little
for Football just for whatever reason, but by the time
this show is over, I'm going to ask you about that,
Larry Vaught, because I'm just curious of how some people
feel about it, how some friendships are mending because of that.
But one thing I did want to ask you about
off our current football, our defense. Our defense played a
(35:56):
really good game this week. I think our corners were more.
Hopefully we will Hopefully we will get healthy. And I
think maybe some people are checked out, but I do
think the effort is there. I think we found some
things out offensively, and I'm not concerned about that. But
this is something we talked about before, and I gave
you insight on why. I didn't know if it was
(36:17):
a good decision or not. As much as I loved
the kid, I didn't know if it was a good
decision or not. But I don't think unless you have
a dynamic returner, I don't think it's good to have
defensive players on punt return as the punt return guy
because there's so many things going on, And Larry Vald,
I don't know if you know this or not. If
the punt returner returns, say it's your safety, say it's
(36:39):
a cornerback. If he returns the ball seventy yards for
a touchdown, what happens next he has to defense if
he gets burnt. Say you get burnt or something happens,
just so anything mentally happens to you, and they're going
to punt the ball to you. Do you think your
(36:59):
mind it's clear? Maybe you got your bail run, maybe
you got shook in the in the uh in the hole.
Do you think that plays on their mindset?
Speaker 6 (37:09):
I would have to think so. Yes.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
If you if you muff one punt, do you think
you're susceptible to muffing another punt?
Speaker 6 (37:19):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Okay, So months ago when I told you, I don't know,
I love time and I think he can't. I don't know.
Put it like this, do you think there was a
return on investment by having him as a punt returner?
And do you think he's going to return continue as
the punt returner of the weeks going forward?
Speaker 6 (37:37):
Well, since he didn't end the game as a punt returner,
I guess would be no.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Well that could have just been because at that point
in time, we just wanted to clear his head. But
I always wanted his head clear anyways, I didn't want
to return to the punt. But again, we he doesn't
return a lot of them because we're not. We're just
not having an opportunity to return to a lot of punts.
So it's really a fair catcher, you know, just a
regular catch is not like you know, we're setting up
(38:02):
exotic return games where we're trying to get them to
break loose. So just take them off. And I would say,
and I wanted to say do it before this point
because now the way you sounded as if maybe it's
a disciplinary thing or it's a negative known I had
a positive spin on it. We just don't want defensive
players on there. And I can give you numerous reasons
why we don't want defensive players as your deep guy.
(38:25):
But when we cook, when we come back, we'll have
shows on to talk about UK volleyball will be interesting
because at three o'clock they take on the Florida Gators
and we're looking forward to it. We'll be back after
this year. Listening to stockyards Banks send them on the
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It’s 1996 in rural North Carolina, and an oddball crew makes history when they pull off America’s third largest cash heist. But it’s all downhill from there. Join host Johnny Knoxville as he unspools a wild and woolly tale about a group of regular ‘ol folks who risked it all for a chance at a better life. CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist answers the question: what would you do with 17.3 million dollars? The answer includes diamond rings, mansions, velvet Elvis paintings, plus a run for the border, murder-for-hire-plots, and FBI busts.
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
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