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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk on Anthony
White along with Larry Vaught and Jack Pill producer Bol Robinson,
coming to you from Clark's Main Street Market Studios in Lexington, Kentucky. Uh,
we finally will have an opportunity to talk UK basketball
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after a huge, huge, normous win over number one Perdue
preseason number one number one Jack Pilgrim.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
The big question on the floor is, and maybe you
saw up close our team scene really relaxed, Malachi Jasher,
some of the younger guys, even Trent, they look pretty,
uh pretty relaxed under under the circumstances would have been
the first game. And I know Noah played a little
bit last year, but there's some question whether it's more
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of a scrimmish tempo where everybody wasn't giving it. They're
all and and are not we that much? As the
first caller jakeson, are we that much better than Purdue?
Or is Purdue that bad? Is the question on the table.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I think that was one of my biggest frustrations, just
seeing how much Purdue fans and media members hyped up
the you know, the event, and that Purdue would far
and away the number one team in the country, three
headed monster coming back with Trey Coffin, Ran Braden Smith
and Fletcher Lawyer, and how you know, on paper they
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were you know, this is the you know, they're they're
supposed to peak earlier because of the continuity returning for Purdue,
So it makes more sense for them to be, you know,
looking the part earlier rather rather than later, compared to
Kentucky with a lot of pieces coming together injury issues,
with Jayla lowout and Jaden Quainton still out and Denzelaborty
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and sliding over to the you know, point guard for
the first time. So it shouldn't it shouldn't have looked
that Kentucky was further along than Purdue just on paper.
And I think they quickly made excuses and said, oh, well,
you know, Matt Paynter doesn't ever scout these games, and
it doesn't you know, it doesn't matter. You guys are
just celebrating the Super Bowl, just like Arkansas did a
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couple of years ago when we found ourselves in the
National Championship Game. So you know it enjoyed this, you know,
enjoy this win while we win the games that actually mattered.
And it's like, well, no, Kentucky is a top ten
team in the country, and you know, you know, with
the number, it continues to be thrown out there. But
how much Mark Pope spent on this roster with with nil?
But you know they they built a championship contending roster
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and they look like a championship contending roster. That's exactly
how you expected and wanted them to look on day one,
Game one, with fans in the stands for the very
first time. So now I was blown away by the performance.
Ignore anything you hear about Oh Purdue didn't take it,
you know seriously, and they weren't trying that hard, and
they didn't you know, run any of their real sets. No,
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it was a competitive back and forth battle that Kentucky
was the better team and executed better and they were
better coached on that night, and it was the perfect
perfect appetizer for the season. So yes, I'm going to
celebrate this win over the number one team in the country.
I love where things stand, while also knowing that there's
a lot of room for growth for Kentucky too. You know,
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Purdue was saying that, you know, there's so much upside
for us. We have so much you know, room for
growth on our end, Well, yeah, when we are missing
an All SEC point guard and a potential top five
draft pick in Jaden Quaintans and yeah, we have a
ton of room to grow as well. So I'm not
gonna apologize for that performance, that win, and what it
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means is we go into Georgetown this this upcoming week
and then certainly once a regular season starts with with
Louisville as kind of the first real headliner of the
regular season on November eleventh. I think Kentucky is is
further along than I expected them to be, and it's
only going to get better as they get back to
full strength.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Jack did it's surprised you the painter kind of not
the Kentucky defense talked about it wasn't very good at all.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
After the game, Yeah, I also was wondering what he
was watching because I was like, Kentucky's defense was pretty
darn good. And again, it's only going to get better
when you have a you know, All Conference Defensive Player
of the Year contender coming back, you know at some
point and Jaden Quaint's you know, Jalen Lowe isn't known
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for being the best defender in the world. But you know,
there are pieces around him to kind of mask some
of his mistakes, while you know, he's also an absolute
freak of nature offensively, So yeah, I didn't agree with
that in the slightest. Again, I think some of that
with sour Graves and.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
What.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
I'm not taking anything that he said or the fans
said or the media said personally, because you know, what
else are you going to say when you, you know,
talk a big game before the game and then get
your teeth knocked on somebody else's home floor. You know,
like I get it. It was embarrassing and you don't
want to accept that result, So of course you're going
to take the well, you know, you guys can take
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this way, and we'll take them when they actually matter.
You know, of course that's going to be their take.
But yeah, Kentucky fans can can don't don't apologize for
feeling good about how Kentucky looked on Friday night, because
they looked every bit of a Final four contender, National
championship contender. Uh and it should only get better front
from here as they get back to full strength.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
And before we get let's get to the phone lines
really quickly and see what Alvin has to say, good morning, Alvin.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
What do you got for us?
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Hey, good morning guys. How you doing. I agree with
what Jack. I agree with that Jack was saying. There's
one thing that also with the Purdue coach Painter, he
can't be trusted to be a number have a number
one team. He's never done good with the number one team.
I think he was also, if memories served me correctly,
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was he upset by Saint Tete with he upset during
the tournament seeding when we got beat by Saint Pete
when he deep out underdog as well?
Speaker 6 (06:09):
I don't know. I couldn't watch it after that game.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I don't know as a tournament.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
I can did get Larry, I can dig that. But yeah,
I think that Kentucky basketball being good has always been
an emotional antidote for us to follow Kentucky football when
it's bad. Uh, it was bad again last night. I
think that coming into the football season, going out of
the football season, there's gonna be questions to do he
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replace Mark Stoops. But I think there's a browther thought
out that as we see the young cut of bowling
looking good at the last two games, will there there's
those chasing him with n IL money off that roster. Yeah,
so I think that that's that's gonna be a major
concern as well. I think that that's a lot of
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things that need to be done. We always talk about, well,
who would coach Kentucky football? I mean, we had the
same I think last night was a Oakland basketball game
that sent Cali Perry out of here. I think the
way we lost to Tennessee might be the game to
send Stoops out and to ask the question who we
get to coach. We asked that question with Cali Perry
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and got Mark Pope. So I think that there is
a guy that will be energetic, be interested in Kentucky
football and would come and do a good job. Guys.
So I think we just need to, you know, embark
on what mitchis, to embark on the coaching search, to
get a coach here that is going to be invested
and get Kentucky football relevant.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
We appreciate the car Alvin Purdue in twenty twenty three
loss of Fairly Dickinson sixteen to one day were number one.
Say he lost the sixteen seedy historical loss. Yeah, that's
what I think. That's what Alvin may have referring to
that was in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
That was a team that had Angela Aminar on it.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I believe, i'm looking he should have been on it.
I don't see him on the court right now though.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Look at the box score. I believe he played in
that game.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I agree with you, Jack Pilgrim, a lot of things
Alvin said.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
It was true. I think moving along in basketball was fine.
As I said again in.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Football earlier that I do believe, and just because we're media,
I do believe if Mark Students had left in twenty
twenty one, I think our fan base would have been upset.
Someone tweeted out earlier that they think that Guy Morris
was the only coach to leave while he was still
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hot with Larry Vaught really quickly. I don't want to
go back to football, but I did want to. I
was told by a friend of both of ours who's
been in media for a long time that Guy Morris
didn't have a really didn't have an option, That there
was no he didn't have a contract with n He
was an entrant.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
Right, Yes, he had the second year, second year he
had contract.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yeah, I was told he didn't have a contract. I
was to understand that what you were on that he
left us, well.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
That none of us know for sure, but I mean,
I think he couldn't come to it. I think he'd
had contract. Maybe his contract was up after that two
and they couldn't come to an agreement, so he just.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Left, Okay, So that could have been the case, Jack Pilgrim.
I find it hard to believe, and I don't see
anywhere around it. But I can understand the the setup
that we just beat the number one team in the
country in the exhibition game, which doesn't count, which makes sense,
number one against number nine.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
How do you not change the.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Ranking if you beat the preseason number one team in
a preseason game. So it's still gonna say number it's
still gonna They're still going to stay number one. We're
still going to stay number nine after beating him. And
it's only a preseason ranking, so it doesn't really matter.
But it's only a preseason ranking.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
See Anthony. Now we're getting into the good stuff. Now
we're getting the good take from you. I've been waiting.
I've been waiting all morning, and we finally get a
good take from you. Yes, I could not agree more.
It disgusts me that we we get we put so
much emphasis on these preseason ap poles. We don't get
that nobody watches the games. You know, we haven't seen
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any of them yet. How how these teams actually look
at just a total guess based on on paper rosters
and you know, retention and you know, new additions, recruits,
all that stuff. You just you just throw something against
the wall and say, well, there's our preseason ranking. Then
we get to actually see them take the floor in
a live game, and we get to see the number
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nine team in the country destroy the number one team
in the country, to defeat them in every single category imaginable, offensive, defensive,
you know, efficiency, turnovers, all of the above. They destroy
them in every single category, and it's going to mean
nothing to the voters, you know, at the end of
the day. It drives me crazy. So yes, I do
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think that we should have a little, nice little reset
after these exhibition games. And yes they should use the
results of these exhibition games how well you play, Maybe
not with the same weight as a regular season game,
but it should mean something. I mean, the game was played,
We actually got to watch them with our own two eyes,
And yes, I think it should mean something, so hopefully
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that even though if it's not a change right now,
I think in the next couple of years we're going
to start seeing more weight being put on these exhibition games.
Is that the competition increases, We're going to.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Go to break early because I want to get into
some of these individual performances. So surprised, don't only see
whose surprise. Jack will continue this conversation after the break.
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Speaker 7 (11:51):
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Speaker 1 (12:00):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning sports Talk on Anthony
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financial banking needs. Jack, I was watching the game. There's
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a couple the I think the maturity of the physicalness
of Malacai Moreno kind of popped out to me.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I watched him in.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
High school a lot, and he's a lot bigger than
most people in high school. So I just kind of figured,
you know, he would dominate nine wasn't. I didn't really
see him really being physical and dominating, although he was
one of the best players in the state. So I
thought there would be some kind of transition or there
would be a physical problem with him transitioning into the
Division one basketball, which he surprised me. He's been surprising
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me a lot lately that he's physical enough. But the
other one, I don't think he was really a surprise,
but the how well Jasper adjusted to it, because I
thought with the same thing with him with his side
that you know, him getting bumped a little bit and
get banged around, that that may influence his game. But
it didn't seem to shake him a lot. That's why
I asked you kind of the the way the game went,
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were they not as physical as a regular season game,
or are those are young guys better than they thought. Trentoa,
for instance, was a guy that I thought may have
to work his way, but he seems like he may
need to get some minutes on the court.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Pretty well.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Who did you watch in the game that kind of
surprised you or did you learned anything about.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:32):
I thought, you know, it starts with Denzel Aberdeen at
point guard, just taking over for Jaalen Lowe, and the
head to head matchup with Braden Smith, who you know,
preseason National Player of the Year coming off you know,
all Conference honors a year ago. There's so much to
like about him and what he brings to the table.
I really thought that, you know, the game plan was
excellent against him, and I think Denzel Abertyen was a
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big reason for the game plan being executed so well.
So uh a big big tip of the cap there,
but also kind of just bleeds into other guards. And
as you said, Jasper Johnson nephew made us all very
proud with his with his performance man, just to you know,
the shot making and the just the confidence that he
had made. It's the audacity of some of the shots
he was taken, and it's the side step behind the back,
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you know, the fire and contested three and grilling. It
just just hilarious, just absolutely hilarious. For him to take
that shot and have the confidence to take that shot
and the execution to make that shot is just it's
just amazing. So yeah, I think fans should be very
very excited about the future of Jasper Johnson. But agreed.
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Malachi Moreno was definitely a standout for me. Definitely looked
the part, you know, wise beyond his years, even as
a nineteen year old. Happy birthday to Malachi on Friday.
He got a good little birthday victory, but definitely looked,
you know, older and more mature and you know, more
polished than any nineteen year old. So definitely excited for him.
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But really not one person that I thought struggled or said,
you know, I really wanted to see a little bit
more out of him. And we got ten guys playing
fifteen plus minutes and all of them kind of contributed
in some form or fashion. Even Braiden Hawthorn, it doesn't
score a point or get a rebound or a steal,
comes in with four seconds left on the game clock
at the end of the first half to kind of
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force a deflection and make make, you know, make life
difficult for Purdue with his with his length. So we're
going deep into the bench and everybody's executing and making
plays and contributing to winning. So very very impressed across
the board. But those those are some of my top standouts.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
And get Larry, I do agree with Jack talk about
painters comments. I didn't hear his comments. But talking about
his comments, you got the potential player of the year
Canada on your team who Steiny did, and so you
can say what you want to that the defense wasn't good.
Braiden Smith may feel otherwise, coach may be quiet because
my performance didn't show didn't show that in thirty two
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minutes from Braden Smith eleven points real nice.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Yeah, And I don't hear anything about how Purdue didn't
take the game seriously because they played their best players
a lot more minutes in what Kentucky played their best players,
So I mean they wanted to win. I don't buy
any of that Paynter was saying there. And now, maybe
Kentucky's not a defensive jogger not but they certainly played
much better defense Friday night to what we saw.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
Him play most of last season.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
And the one thing that I really like Jack going
into almost every season I can ever remember in the
fifty one years of doing this, you see Kentucky play
for the first time, there's always one or two players
you say, yeah, maybe they're gonna be a little bit
better than what I thought.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
But then there's also usually maybe.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
One or two you say I don't know about them,
and then maybe another one you're gonna say, but he's
gonna need some time. When you watched, especially those those
first ten guys you're talking about play, I mean, I
think every one of them was as good or better
than what I was expecting. And that's just unusual to
have everybody impressed you right off the bat.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I'll be honest. There there was a moment that I
was watching Malachi makes, you know, do things down low,
Jasper make shots, and some of the you know, Andrea
Yellovich and some of the guys that were running that
second unit, and then you look at the bench, you
look at the score scorer's table, and you see Denzel
Aberdeen and Trent Noah and and you know, Modia bat
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and some of those guys ready to check in, and
you go, oh boy, I mean this brings me back
to you know, as that one caller said said earlier
talking about thirty eight and one. It brought me back
to that time where it was just like they just
come at you in waves, and the depth just a serious,
serious issue for opponents that it's a massive positive for Kentucky.
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But just I think it's gonna definitely if we're seeing
the number one team in the country kind of break
down as the game goes on because of Kentucky's depth.
I mean, imagine what everybody else in college basketball is
gonna have to deal with. So I think I think
the there's a lot to be excited for, and I
think depth is probably the biggest reason for it.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
And Larry, we got about a minute.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Who did you find that that may have stood out
to you, were somebody you hoping for or you think
it's gonna make an impact that maybe didn't get enough
minutes just because we spread so many minutes.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Right, I don't know anybody's gonna get all the minutes
they probably deserved because there's gonna be too many good players.
I think I really needed to see for myself that
that Moe Diabatte was going to be everything that I
thought he would be, right, and I think he's.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
Going to be more.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
I mean, I like to see him out there with
the pads I'm playing football. I mean, that dude just
gives Kentucky something they hadn't had for a while. I mean,
every play I'm watching, he's bumping, knocking, doing something. Just
to let you know, he's there, and I mean that's
just hard. I really like seeing that, so that that
was one. Also thought that probably Aberdeen's a better defensive
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player than what I'd maybe been led to believe. I
believe that Jelovich I didn't know how he was going
to do, but I think he's definitely good enough get
out there on the court and do things. And then
probably both with Jasper and Malachi, I thought they could
do some things. I probably I hope they could do
some things, but after watching Hell, they might.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
Be able to do everything.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
I mean, they looked really, really good. They were so
just to everybody I did, I couldn't find anybody that
I didn't like anything about it. Man with Cam Williams
boom boom berries, those threes, I love that.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I think he's going to be I think he's gonna
be our three guy. I think that's the case. Jack
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Speaker 1 (19:51):
Welcome Back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk on Anthony.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
White along with Larry Vaught.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
This hour Sunday Morning Sports Talk is up to you
by Country Boy Brewing. During the break, we were talking
both basketball and football, and uh we let Jack Pilgrim
give us insight on basketball, and we did talk about, uh,
the performances on Friday. The one thing I did before
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we were going to break, we didn't get up because
we're gonna have Greg on the eleven o'clock. We didn't
get a whole lot of insight. Cam is a guy
that does some some things that a lot of people
can do. But I think his specialization and it goes
back to hitting hitting the half court shot, uh, hitting
the half court shot for the fan a couple of
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weeks ago that he's only taking three pointers. I wonder,
is that for just the style of Mark Stoop's, Mark
Pope's coaching. Is I wonder if that's if that's gonna
be his key? Is that gonna be his what he's
asked to do. Is that gonna be a specialization? Just
the deep box? It was two, he was two or
six from three point range. But that's all he took
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for three pointers.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Well, I tell you, coming up at eleven, we'll get
a good answer to that because we'll have Greg Williams,
his dad in here with us, who's seen a lot
of practices and of course has had two sons played
college basketball.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
But I think that's.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
What Mark wanting to be able to do is spread
that floor. Has spread that floor, and that's why he
was the first one to commit to Kentucky in the
transfer portal. I think since then, Kentucky maybe has added
more three point shooters than what Mark may be originally.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
Thought they could.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
I think they have a lot of guys that can
shoot the three, because I remember several months ago the kind
of the worry was why Kentucky will ever be as
good a three point shooting team this year?
Speaker 6 (21:39):
Heck, they might be better.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
They might not have a Kobe Bria, but overall they
might be better than what they were last year, especially
if Otega is now capable of making a couple of
three pointers or something like that, and he looked good
on the one that he made the other night.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah, so you would say, just looking at the game,
maybe the only person you wouldn't want shooting at three
out of yesterday.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Just line up is a body, probably because I've seen
I've seen Garrison hit him. We've seen Garrison. Maloki missed
badly on the one he took, but I've seen him
hit a lot of him. I watched, and he took
it with confidence. That's what I liked about with Malaca.
He didn't hesitate and all. But yeah, I think Mo
was probably, Yeah, he doesn't need to be out there
shooting threes. He did, but I think the good thing.
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But I think he understands that and accepts that. I mean,
that's what I like about him. He seems to know
my role is to do all the things somebody.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
Else wants to do. Just get the rebound.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
I like what you can rip that rebound off and
then just lead that face break or if he's not
on leading them, he's not got the ball. He just
runs like heck to get down the court and he
just he's just gonna He's a guy we talked about
who might play the most minutes. I mean, I was
the coach, I'd have a hard time setting him.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Down, do you, Mo, Yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Yeah, But I mean I know you want him fresh
and keep all of it. You just feel so good
when he's kind of like you're enforcer out there. And
also I don't know, but I mean Mark will handle
all that. And I remember one thing that I mentioned
to you a few weeks ago, the Craig Skinner said
about how do you balance such a talented roster?
Speaker 6 (23:04):
He said, you make sure you.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Let them know that they're valued in their role, whatever
their role is. And I think Mark Pope would do
a really good job of that too. And I also
thought about one thing basketball wise after the game that
I heard that if you'd have heard it, I thought
Anthony Anthony White may be running naked down Main Street
and make him so happy. Well, Otega always said something
about playing defense and how hard they're going to play.
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He said, that's our identity.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
Look at that.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
The UK basketball team played one game and they got
an identity. How long have you been calling for the
football team to have an identity?
Speaker 1 (23:34):
And that is the one thing. And like you said
with Mole and the way Aberdeen plays at the point
guard reminds you a little bit or just hounding at.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
The point guard reminds you a little bit of.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
A last year's point guard that got hurt. Everybody kind
of reminds you of that, but that does seem so you
know that always gonna get physical. Mole's gonna get physical,
Aberdeen's gonna get physical.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Uh. And I said, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Another person that when you said there's some people like,
oh wow, I'm surprised or I didn't get much out
of I say, Brandon Garrison.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I don't think he did anything to sway me that
he can't.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
I didn't expect a whole lot out of him, but
I think he gave me a slightly more than I expected.
That was a name because when you started looking at
it the way we started the game, who came on
the start lineup and looked like when everybody gets back,
when we get Low back and get the other guys back,
who were we gonna find minutes? I don't think Garrison
did anything to hurt itself, but I just think once
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other guys return, we have such such upside that Trent
or Brandon may get some minutes taken from him.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
I mean, if you get Quaintan's back, you got Quaintance,
Garrison and Marino all playing that five spot.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
I mean, I know they.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Could maybe maybe quaint to go out and play the
fourth son.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
But he's a guy.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
So I mean, that's three pretty good guys and you
only have forty minutes of that position. And again, like
Trent or Trent really played well and he shoots. He
just keeps shooting the ball well. And when a guy
makes shots, it's hard not to play him. But then again,
you put when you get low back in Queenten's back,
that's a lot of people at all. So but we
saw what happened last year when they got to some games.
You wonder if they're gonna have five guys they could play,
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So you can never have too many, I guess.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
And I guess that when you play that physical brand
of basketball that you do get banged up, you.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Must practice that. Most guys go after each other in practice.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Yeah, because I think that that was the kind of
way he was raised up or Mark Pope when he
was here. That team they had was pretty physical. Now
they had some dog on they had two NBA rosters
on one team, but uh yeah, in.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Ninety seven, but ninety six.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
But he uh so, I think that's kind of his
identity that we're gonna be physical, we're gonna play defense.
One thing when we talked, we gave Jasper a lot
of credit, gave Malachi a lot of credit. I know
Trent's not a freshman freshman, but he he seemed to get.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
A little more physical, a little more confident.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Because you thought after Perry left that you know the
Kentucky boys, you know the schedule they play in state
and in high school is not going to be what
they're gonna play in the SEC. And I'm not sure
that's why Travis left. And now I look at what
Trent is. Are you surprised that Travis left? Because but
Trent looks like he's grown, he's more physical, he's not
bothered by the game. The body looks better. Just does
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that does that surprise you? And maybe the only relation
there that they're both from the h they're both from counties,
and they're both Kentucky boys. But does that surprise? Does
that surprize you that maybe Perry left Travis. Perry left
maybe premature or it was best for everybody.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Well, I think maybe Travis looked at the roster, I
thought why Trent.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Now my point is why Trent didn't didn't.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Because he's maybe not just a guard of him. Maybe
he's and I don't know. I do think that Travis
hit four threes for Ole Miss in an exhibition game
against Houston from what I was told, right right, So
it seems like he's found a good fit for him.
But Trent is a more physical player than what Travick.
Trent was in high school. Trent was a pretty good
rebounder and all on high school too. He didn't mind
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going inside and knocking people around and doing that kind
of thing. So I think his physical style and he's
obviously his body's changed little bit and he's a really
strong kid. But he can just shoot. He can just
shoot him and Travis can both shoot, shoot, shoot some more.
I mean, they're both really good. So I hope it
works out great for both of them. But Trent, again,
another guy hard to keep you off the floor. All
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of us is make.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Shots and they it seems like everybody And that's why
I hope it's not anomally. I hope we're not getting
in front of ourselves. Well, this team is gonna shoot
fifty percent.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
From twenty six.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Yeah, yeah, it's a long way to the end to March,
shuldn't it?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
And watching the game, I think the biggest thing that
Pope wanted to do was get some some units and
some uh some see what some players look like some combinations.
See we want to get what some of those look
like on film so he can go back and watch
the film. And I don't know any combinations that you
thought went really well, But I loved the opportunity when
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Yellowvic and Reino were in there together and they were
playing high man low man. They both were and I
guess Malachi can get outside, but he was playing the
more physical role inside and they and Yellowvick would just
pop out and knock down threes or just you know,
at least spread spread the defense. So I just like
the fact that seeing and I'm not sure that they're
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both gonna get a ton of minutes at the same time. Well,
I'm not sure they're both gonna get a ton of
minutes when acquaintance comes back. But I'm not sure if
they're gonna get a ton of minutes at the same time.
But when they were in there, I love that that
unit because they were both long, so they couldn't get
into the lane. So when they're both inside the lane,
it's tough for them to get shots off. But on
the offensive end. Who are you gonna put if they're
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both stacked on the block, who you're gonna put down there?
Speaker 6 (28:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:35):
And then Yellowvick pops out is fine because to handle itself, Yeah,
and vice versa.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
And the one thing to remember too is we're all
anticipating Quaintance being back, and.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
He should be.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
But you mean any anticipate, But I mean.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
There's never a guarantee you you're coming off a knee
injury until you actually get out there.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
So you remember it's only March that he head his surgery, right,
So it's uh, it's still because if you know this,
Mark Pope has been very careful not to put a
timeline on when he's guy. He just always says he's progressing,
he's doing great, he's ahead of schedule. But he never
tells you exactly what the schedule is, which I think
is a good thing. He never said, well, I think
he'll be back November first, think could be back December first.
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Mark's been pretty vague about I think that's one thing
he does better than Cali Perry did on that that
he's not set. I think he'll be back here, Let's
just play it a little.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Slow and it's at and it's a lower. It's a
lower about an injury, which is different. But with Lamont Butler,
you think he learned something last year from Lamont Butler,
and I know we talked to him, We talked to
his dad that Lamont was gonna play regardless. But I
think during tournament play, Lamont was a little more banged
up and it is bad. And like I said, with
the upper body, the problem was Lamont was on his
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shooting hand, and it is questionable when you have a
point guard that likes to get to the bucket, and
that's what this game is primpce because he's not really
a knockdown shooter, but you and it's hard to make layups.
So I just kind of wonder if maybe Mark it's
gonna air on the Mark Pope not gonna aeroon not Like,
let's keep quaintance because even for Quinton's future, he don't
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want to mess his his leg up any any further. So, Yeah,
you got me thinking now that you're talking about well,
he says, and you you sound questionable about it.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Now you got to be concerned.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
No, I'm just saying you got to remember there's never
a guarantee. Now, now, like I do think with Jalen Lowe,
he'll probably maybe be a little bit more cautious than
he might have normally been because he might have those
Lamot Butler throwbacks and think, hey, we're still just playing
an exhibition game this week. We're not playing Jalen. Let's
let these other guys play some point guard again and
then we'll give him another week and see what happens then.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
And uh, I guess the only person we really haven't
talked a whole lot about Colin Chandler. You think, what because, oh, way,
I think did his old way things. I don't think
he really uh he was for hisself in Yeah, I
don't think he really tried to dominate her anything.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
But that's was that the same with Colin Chandler?
Speaker 6 (30:53):
Or you think, wow, did you see who?
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Mark Pope said he thought the game MVP was.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Coln Chandler.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Yeah, just because of the way he played and embraced
his role, and he had the best and again I
don't quite always understand the plus minus figures, but he
had the highest plug. He was a plus fifteen and
only score two points right right right?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Yeah, five rebounds, three assision. It's a lot of a
lot of little things that especially to mark a Pope system.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
And he played really confidently, I thought, and you could
just tell this guy he's so much better at the
start of this season he was at the start of
last season. So again another one that can just go
out there and do a lot of different things for you.
I think the biggest thing, it's just everybody has to
learn what their role is going to be and embrace
that role. And I think it'll probably take them a
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little still, a little bit longer to do that because
everybody can't average fifteen points a game.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Yeah, but if your goal is winning I don't know, Aberdeen,
and if your goal is to win a championship, I
think he brought those those kind of mindsets.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
In guys who standing that he won or one to win.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
And as I told you back in our Ara Raid days,
I don't care if Craig Quinton ko if we're scoring touchdowns,
if it's me when I get my opportunity, we're all
happy for each other. But if you get selfish guys
out there, or you know, you just want to put
up numbers, that's a whole lot different than one.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Did we want to win games.
Speaker 6 (32:16):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Considering football as an offense. In the defense, we didn't
care who got the success as long as we were successful.
And I think that's where with Pope is kind of
instilling in his team. So I think that's why he
brought some of the people pieces.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
I'd agree with that.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
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Speaker 1 (33:06):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
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Speaker 1 (33:13):
Larry Vaughs has wont to get our guests, so it's
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So if you'd like to join the show eight five
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nine to eight zero cats. Let's get to the phone
line to see what Kobe has to say. Good morning, Kobe,
what do you got for us?
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Do you think Cutter Bowley's gonna transfer?
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Do I think he's gonna transfer at the upcoming season?
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Uh, Kobe, I will tell you this.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
When you're from Kentucky and you get an opportunity to
put the uniform on, I think it holds a lot
of weight. Now, Jack Pilgrim and Larry Vaught are negative
nancies and with reason, with reason Kobe, Larry Kobe calls
in and wants to know if he if we think
that if Cutter Bowley would transfer. I think that will
depend on who we retain from next year. But do
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you agree with me, Larry, that because he's from Kentucky
he gets maybe a hometown discount as far as negotiating powers.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Probably, But I also think in this day and age,
Cutter has to balance mean, what his heart tells him
and what his head tells him. So I think he
has to make kind of a business decision for him too,
that you just can't automatically assume he's from Lexington. No
matter what we do, he's going to stay. Yeah, if
you've either got to. I think you're going to show
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him that there's a reason for him to stay other
than just money.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Uh, you got some anything else for us? Kobe? I
did have a back question. Well, thank you for that.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
That sounds like a really intelligent god do I Is
this the Kobe that I know?
Speaker 6 (34:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (34:57):
I did not know that.
Speaker 6 (34:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Why didn't he point himselves out as family members? That's
family's family show.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
He tries to be humble. Ah, there you go, Hey, Kobe,
tell tell Anthony what you did to Dennis Johnson's team?
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Thirty six thirty five five six.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Thirty five to six? How many? How many tackles are
you just tied in and you go both ways?
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Not that game?
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I done it just linebacker?
Speaker 5 (35:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
How many tackles? Three?
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Two?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
You didn't hurt anybody, did you.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
He didn't get a lot of opportunities.
Speaker 6 (35:35):
They didn't. They have to play defense very much.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
That's an old hal mummy stuff. Man. They keep the
offense out there too much. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
So but yeah, all right, Kobe, Well, thank you. I'll
see you later today.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Okay, thank you for the come.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
I did, but since we were only I did want
to ask you about the cutter thing. Here's do you
think this is gonna be taking the consideration Cutter has
gotten better everye Why he never started in the beginning
of the season and get a chance to progress to
this point, we don't know. Is there any value in
the point that he's getting better. However, he's getting better,
whether it's Mark Perry, whether it's Bush Hampden, whoever's working
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with the quarterbacks, he's gotten better every week. So the
reason he's looking good now is because he's given opportunity one.
But he's obviously given the tools and support to get
better every week. Does that not because you can go
somewhere else and not get favoritism. Somebody can pay you
case in point, you've seen in the past, you could
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pay a player plenty of money to come in ship
train him. I can go down a list of people
Zach comes out to come here and play and then
not paying out and that can be your last year
playing football. Because but the goal is make to the NFL.
So the progress he's making here, does that not say hey,
maybe I need to stick around because there's something there's
some condinuity here, or go off to another school to
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pay you a lot of money and the fit's not there.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
I think that if all things are equal, Cutter would
love to be at Kentucky. I think he'll and again
I'm just speculating here, but I think he's going to
have to feel that he's got the right pieces around him.
And I wanted to see who the right pieces are
that are coaching because I think we're at this point
right now what's going on with football none of that
can probably be answered. And as you know, in the
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transfer portal era, I mean, yeah, maybe Cutter wants to stay,
but what if all those other young receivers leave. What
if Willie Rodriguez, Cam Miller, DJ Miller, if suddenly you
look up and yeah, Cutter's here, but Jason Patterson's gone.
So I think it'll be a very interesting first month
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two or three weeks after the season ends. And then
again with all of us not knowing exactly what's going
to go on coaching wise, that'll be a decision that'll
need to be made really quickly. So the Cutter and
those guys know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
You know, who would be a great person to talk
to about that? Where did Cutter Bowley play high school FOOTBA.
Speaker 6 (38:02):
Originally? Or finished up his finish up at the Lexton Christians.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Where did Tim couches at the Lexton Christian and Tim
couch after he got over that whole decision between him
and his dad going to Tennessee, he became a Kentucky
kid and he was gonna stay at Kentucky kid based
off who they brought in to.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Prepare him for the NFL.
Speaker 6 (38:21):
They brought in Hall mommy.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
So that's who he needs to talk You need to
talk to Tommy.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
Oh okay, let's just because we're gonna bring back hal mommy.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
And if you want to know about UK basketball, if
we are really good as we showed we were on Friday,
you know who you.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Need to talk to.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Cam Williams father.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
I thought you canna say Cam Williams. I said, we
got something better. We got his dad. We'll be back
after this. You're listening Stockyards Bank Sunday morning sports Stalk
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