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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the home of the Wildcats. Six thirty WLAP.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome back to Stockyards Bank, Sunday Morning Sports tal Care
on News Radio sixty WLAP. I'm Larry Veltz sitting in
the Clark's Pumping Shop studio here in downtown Lexington. Anthony
White's up visiting mom, getting ready to bring her back
to Lexington with him for a week of glorious bliss.
I am sure, but right now we might have the
happiest UK fan on earth with us right now, one
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and only. JD Shelburn, Who's just what about twelve hours
off your Grand o Opry deve. You probably hadn't been
to bed yet, heavy JD.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
You know it's funny you say that. I think I
went to bed. We had an after party last night.
I went to bed about three o'clock and woke up
about seven thirty. So I'm ready to go again.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Well, tell us a little bit about what it was
like to perform at the Grand Old Opry.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Unbelievable. Just it's the technical country music, the biggest stage
of country music. I've been told last night many times,
and to finally get the invitation two weeks ago yesterday,
it was just I'm still speachless, to be honest, just
a moment we arrived to the way they treated us
to the debut. Walking out on stage at the Circle,
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you know, Steve Warner introduced me. It just I mean,
it's just just a moment that I'll never forget. I mean,
just the whole experience is unforgettable. To play on the
opera stage, a sound, just everything from start to finish
last night, it just could not have been any better,
and I'm just so grateful for the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Did you have a tier or two in your eye
when you went out there?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
I did?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
You know, it's Steve Warner kind of broke the ice,
of course, you know, Kentucky and John Connelly was backstage
with me as I walked out, and you know, they
just kind of kind of told me to just kind
of take it all in. It's going to go super fast,
and it just kind of broke the ice. But I
just had a tear there at the very end as
I was walking off stage. The Opera actually shared a
video on their socials last night, and I'm so glad
they got and we I just kind of lost it
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there at the end. But it was, you know, once
I went out on the ages like kind of like
time to go to work, and it seemed like I
got through both songs great, and the end is just
it could hold it any longer.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, because for people aren't familiar with the opry unless
it has changed, whether you're the world's greatest entertainer ever
or somebody making their first time making their opry debut.
You do two songs, correct, exactly?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Yeah, sometimes people some people get three. The ones that
get three are usually the one that kind of MC
the segment. And so yeah, Steve Warner MC this segment
last night. He was the Opry Square. Answers came out
first and Steve came out. He introduced them, and then
he performed three songs, and then I came at the
end the first segment. So it seems like most most
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artists get two, but some very few get three.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
So which two did you pick?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
So my current singles called Summertime All Year off my
new record coming out this year. I did that one
first and then it ended out with church few bars.
Still that's probably my most popular song. There was a
number one video on CMT four US, and so I
wanted to kind of do an upbeat song and then
kind of slow it down there at the end. And
many fans told me last night that I couldn't have
picked two more perfect songs for the situation, so most great.
I didn't forget the words. That was really just concerned
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I was gonna forget words to do. It's all the
adrenaline going in the moment, but muscle memory kicked in.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
JD.
Speaker 6 (03:16):
You you professionally, You've been doing this for a long time,
and as Larry said at the opera, you know he
becomes emotional at some point. I kind of relate this
to when people say, oh, you played with Tim Coles
someone else. I played with Tom Brady as well. At
any point, do you get to the point where you
was just like, look, I'm a professional and all this
is just life, or are you just a guy who's
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just kind of wired where any opportunity, you know, you
just any opportunity you get you just grateful for because
I'm assume when nothing really should surprise.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
You at this point, Well, you are correct. Yeah, I've
done this over three thousand times. I've actually was able
to actually go through and figure out how many shows
I've played for just throughout my career. It's right over
three thousands. I've done this so many times. At the
end of the day, it's you know, you're walking out
to another stage spotlight, and you know, obviously the operation
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is a little bit different because of the history and
how long I wanted to play this particular stage. So
at one moment you just go out and you're like,
you know what I walked on the stage is thousands
of times and at the end of the day, you
just got to go out there and just do what
you've done. I do every night. I mean I was
at first like Casino the night before, you know, playing
a show there. So it's just like, you know, you
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just sometimes just kind of grin and bear, just do
what you do every night and hope you get through it.
And last night I did get through it, but the
end kind of kind of took me there then.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
So did you wear any UK gear out there?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
JD. You know someone said you ought to get someone
said you want to get on the stage to say
go cats, real, real, real, loud as loud as you could.
So but once I'm walkd in that space in that
circle last night, step I put in that circle in
that spotlight hits you in the face it's like you
don't you can't think of anything, you don't very do
good to remember your name. It's like, you know, I
didn't even. I didn't even I forget to think my
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wife last night, and there's my guitar player. I just
it was just one of those things. It's like in
the moment, you're like, oh, I should have thanked them,
But when you're in the moment, things just roll out.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
JD.
Speaker 7 (05:07):
Did you get to the point where after it was
all over with and the emotions kind of made their
process through your mind, you're thinking, how did I get
through all that because it was such a.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Big deal for you. Yeah. Yeah, I took a deep breath.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Actually, my road manager backstage instead of prayer with me
right when I walked on, they were actually doing the
intro for me, and he kind of pulled me aside
and said a little prayer. I think that really helped
calm my nerves a little, because I was really nervous.
But you know, once I when I got my invitation,
I had no idea what time I would be on
the show, and I thought the later the show, the
later my performance on the show, the nervous more nervous,
I'm gonna be. But I was actually second artist out yesterday, so.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
That really helped me.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
You know, once the show started, the curtain went up,
It's like, okay, I'm next, So I've had time to
get nervous, to be honest, but I definitely it was
definitely a moment last night. I'll never forget the feeling
that I had backstage. I don't get that at every show.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
What's the backstage? What's backstage like at the operating I'm
not talking about wild after parties or anything like that,
but because it is a live radio broadcast and there's
a lot going on, talk about that with us in
the backstage and some of the directions you're getting before you.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Go on, it's very quiet and very personable. Every artist
has their own dressing room, and I had a special
dress room last night since it was my debut. It
was called it in the Circle is basically the first
dressing room when you check in with the security. With
your checking into security and just everybody's just so nice.
Everyone's going from room to room and they're practicing in
certain rooms and every door is open. I mean I
walked right in Steve warner dressing room last night. And
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he welcomed me with open arms and we chitchatted for
a minute. And John Collins out there talking to people
in the hallways, and it's almost just like it. You're
just like you know, you're at a church, you're going
to Sunday school. I mean, everyone's just so nice and
just so welcoming, and I mean they could not have
been nicer to my whole family. I got so last night.
I got ten backstage passes and I could bring like
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six workers considered like guitar players, photographers, And then I
had twenty tickets out front, and they let my family backstage,
walk out into the mezzanine and watch the show out front.
They gave him an option, you want to watch backstage
or out front. I just thought that was so nice.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Mom and Dad.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
I got to go out front and enjoy it last night,
and in church pew, and and then after the show
they got to come right backstage. So it just it's
just great. And this lady come up to me last night,
she said, now I want you to let's let you know.
My nickname is Lemonade, and I'm here for you anytime
you need me for anything. And so come to find
out later she makes the world famous lemonade in the
backstage at the opera and the popcorn, so pretty cool.
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I met all sorts of people last night.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Wow, well it's very very cool. And indeed, JD. Of
course you've got a lot of things going on right now.
You still might be the only again I know personally
this guy his own bourbon.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Hey, yeah, you know, I'm really excited about that. That's
that's been an amazing journey. Matter of fact, I'm gonna
be in Electionington next thurd It's coming Thursday at Beaumont
Center Liquor Barn, So I'm looking forward to, uh to
doing that.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
In liquor Bar.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
I'm doing a lot of signings, you know. That's that's
coming up, and seeing people purchased my bourbon and it's
actually selling off the shelf, which is just mind boggling
that people are buying my bourbon. I'm loving it. So
all those Kentucky fans listening out there, I'll be in
Beaumont Center next next Thursday, This coming Thursday, obviously signing
of the bottles one on one small batch.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
So if our producer Bow shows up out there, you
can take good care of him then.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Right of course, did you get Did you go to
the one Danville and took a snapshot of one? Didn't you?
Speaker 5 (08:24):
I did?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Then they said it's selling off the shelf quicker than
they could get it in, so they had people.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
I love one.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
So hopefully maybe you'll get to Danvil one day and
do a signing.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
That's in the plans.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Hey, real quick, I'm gonna be at Beaumont Center Liquor
Barn Thursday to tenth, from five to seven.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Come see me five to seven. Okay, Now do you
think JD? Now that you've maybe Anthony could chime in
on this too. Now that you have played at the
Grand Ole Opry, you think maybe now people will invite
you to sing a national anthem at the UK sporting event.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I really hope. So, you know, I've had many people.
Had someone last at the Opery last night asking you
think you ever sing of a UK basketball game? And
I thought it was kind of funny they asked me that.
I said, man, I hope. So, I mean, I'm a
lifelong Kentucky fan. And you know, even did WSM de
Cody show the night before. Of course he's a Kentucky native.
He asked me about Mark Pope on the air and
about you know, your k sports and all that stuff,
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and he asked me if I'd done the anthem and
so hopefully this will get me over the edge to
finally make my debut reper ener for an anthem this year.
So I got my fingers crossed and.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
I got you back.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
Man, I didn't assume that you wasn't. It's what I
follow you on social media and those things. So UK
media do the right thing and get to get the
man out there.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
It isn't.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
It ain't like you got a bagging? Are you going
to do to make the phone call? But Jacky, I
do I do kind of want to ask you just
because you're so humble. I mean, you know you're Kentucky
and you you just seem to embrace the warmth like
you you're a superstar.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
You don't act like a superstar. Where does that? Where
does that come from?
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Like?
Speaker 5 (09:57):
And I know it's not tough. It's tough to say.
You're not going to say, yeah, I'm an arrogant so
and so.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
But no, like you were very personable, approachable, as I said, appreciative.
Well how does that happen when you have so many
people clamoring for your entertainment.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
I think it's how I started my upbringing. You know,
you know, Mom and Dad wasn't a country music star.
I wasn't born into the music world. I started playing
guitar in college at the University of University of Kentucky
back in O two when I was going to college
in Lexton and found a guitar and started from the bottom.
I mean I was playing to nobody, I mean, playing
the churches and nursing homes and picnics. And then I
started going to Louisville and playing a lot more opportunity
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in lois to play music, and started building a little
fan base. And now I literally started at the bottom
and I'm just kind of built my own ship for
seventeen years since moved the Nashville and I wait and
to finally make it to Grand of Operay. I mean,
I'm obviously made a living doing this for seventeen years,
and you know, I've literally like earned it DoD dollar
handshake by handshake through fans and the fans that propelled
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me to where I'm at. I think this where I started.
Nothing was forgiven to me. Man, I didn't get I mean,
I knew when I moved to Nashville in two thousand
and seven. I knew one person, and that one person
was an artist, and I could never get him to
call me back to help me for nothing. And I
thought to myself, if I ever get to a point
one day where I'm somewhat successful, I'm never going to
be that way to someone else. And it's like, when
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I moved down, you don't know anybody. You're forced to
do things on your own and meet people and shake
hands and go out and network. And I just did that,
and luckily the dots started to connect and people seemed
to really kind of gravitate towards my songwriting and just
musicianship of just being nice to people. Being nice to
people has propelled me to so many opportunities and just
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it's so many different situations. I remember one time I
was at Texas Roadhouse eating a burger. I was literally
taking a bite of my burger, chewing the burger, and
someone come up and asked for a photo. I could
have easily said can I finish my burger, but I
saw the burger, took a photo, and I've just had
so many pictures moments like that where I've just never
been rude to people, and that's kind of whey. That's
why I'm where I'm at today.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Hey, Anthony, and you know who? You know who JD
comes up to the lection and hangs out with Sometimes.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
I can't. I'm anxious to find.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Out Mark Pope they're buds.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I didn't know that you're, sir, But no, he's a
but he's a rock star.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
And Larry Vaugh JD. When Larry Vaught was was our age.
He was a rock star.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
So I can't imagine what your lifestyle was like. But
I also went to college with Pope Mark. Now I
know Mark, don't live a kind of lifestyle. You live
three four hours of sleep, standing up at three or
four in the morning, JD.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
You know Larry Voss a legend man. I tell everybody
he's a legend, living, legend man, living legend.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
The living's important part right there. Let's let's let's hope
they continue this. But good congratulations JD. And again, tell
folks where they can come out and see you here
Thursday night if they want to.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Yeah, I'm gonna be lexand Kentucky Beaumont Center, Liquor Barn
signing my new bottle of one on one small batch
presented by Inclusion Brand, and I'm really excited to be
there from five to seven this Thursday. We'd love to
see a lot of my Kentucky folks and friends. This
will be our first signing and one of our probably
only signings in the Lection and area. We're gonna do
a bunch of them all over the state. Lections next
on our list, So this Thursday, Beaumont Center Liquor Barn,
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five to seven. Love to see you, guys, And if
you just.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Would like to come out and hear JD perform, it's
about a month from a month from now. He'll be
in Danville on August the seventh performing, So come on
down to our town and listen to some j D.
Shelber music.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Thank you so much for all the support through the
years with you, guys, man, I.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Never forget it, all right, JD. Well, thank you. Tell Amy,
I'm sorry you forgot her, but I know you still
love her, so hopefully you'll survive that.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I'm in a dog house. Later, I'm coming your house
and sleeping for the week.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
All right, anytime, buddy, So thank you again.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
Brother.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
All right, stay with us here. We'll take a break
on Sunday, Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk and be
back with more.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
This is the home of the Wildcats, six thirty w LAP.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Hey deeven Telco or the JD Shelburd Music with But
that's what we got to do here on Stockyards Bank
Sunday Morning Sports Talk on news Radio six thirty WLAP.
So appreciate JD's joining us, coming off with his debut
with the Opry last night and hopefully won't be his
last time there. I don't think it will be. But
just always good Anthony to see a Kentucky and do
so well.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
Absolutely, man, let's say his personal guy. Man, I've never
met him. I follow him on social media. You know,
I'm an introvert or whatever, but no, I love this story.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
Man. They said he got it from the mud. That's
what we say in the hood, Larry, Okay, he got
it from the mud. I mean he got it from
the dirty.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
Wasn't given anything but a humble guy UK and I'm
surprised that he hasn't played UK football basketball, but he
should be able to do national anthem.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
He's done a pre hes, he's done. He did one
of the pregame concerts at the football before they stop
doing those. But he's never saying the national anthem at
a UK sporting event, which, considering he was the UK
Alumni of the Year a few years ago, would seemed
like a pretty natural fit. So maybe maybe it will
happen at Allso but we'll see. Now, coming up at
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ten thirty, we're going to have somebody that you you're
going to get to know pretty well. I think Alabama
defensive lineman Garrett Witherington, who is committed to Kentucky a
really intriguing type player. Again, one of these guys that
your buddy and mar Stewart is bringing in. He's about
about two hundred and ninety pounds, says he can play
multiple positions. They're kind of looking at him as a hybrid,
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he said. So he he really likes everything about Kentucky.
It's kind of interesting. His mom went to Auburn, his
dad went to Alabama, and now he says he's ready
to come up to Kentucky and beat up on both
of them. So I like his attitude.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
Larr, do you know, you know when you know the
last couple d lineman or edge hybrid, you know how
many like the last couple of people with hybrids, right right,
last couple of people.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Has been a D lineman.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
But you know I played edge this, that and the.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Other, right right. You know why that is?
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I guess they're just that versatile.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
That Now, that is part of it.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
For you to play here, you gotta be versial. For
you to play for Brad or n Ward. You got
versatile if you if your hand is in the dirt,
you and an whar's room.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
If you are stand up, you in Brad's room, I
got you.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Okay, yeah, so Brad, So.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Brad don't want to look bad.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
So but Edward probably does a whole lot of the work,
but he comes in under a whole nother blanket or whatever.
But I respect Brad, you know, I respect the White
and Steward a whole lot. So it's but that is
a funny thing. I just keep noticing on I'm watching
the film, like this guy is definitely a D lineman,
but in the three four defense, it kind of looks different.
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But when you start label them, and I found this
just from inside information, when you start labeling him as
an edge rusher instead of a tackle or in, then
he changes the room that he that he meets.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
It I got you, Okay, Now let me ask Anthony.
We we talked to s briefroinly. We got a couple
of minutes before we go to break and then we'll
come back and we'll get Garrett on.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Here with us.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
But caler Larry that started us off today was worried
about the Kentucky didn't have any commitments from en State
players this year, and I don't think they have any
commitments from anybody in Ohio this year. Does that worry
you or do you think that's just kind of a
shift in direction that Mark Soups is going to go
with his football recruiting.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
Now, I think it's a shift in direction, and I
think there I think there's a huge stigma about uh.
I think there's the coaching staff being from Ohio, and
that's the only Northern maybe Ohio, maybe Michigan, that's the
only those are the only northern states that are really
in the top, you know, football categories, when you're talking
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about high school or just the culture of football. You
got Georgia, who's who's heavy, Florida's heavy, California's heavy, Texas heavy.
But when you get to the north, it's usually Ohio
or or Michigan. So that's why I think that kind
of went away. But I think we were maybe scrubbling about.
We got lucky with Limbo, and we got lucky with
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Benny Sneill. We got lucky with a lot of those guys.
You just can't live off that the same way we
can't live at the quarterback situation in the portal. So
I think that they're trying to migrate back down south,
you know. I think we're trying to, you know, get
down Florida, Georgia. The guys were playing against Georgia probably
don't have to leave the state. Florida probably don't have
to leave the state. Texas don't have to leave the state.
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And this is not a knock on Kentucky football. Yeah,
I know you're saying we should get some of the
top guys from the state, But I think to make
a point, I think we are trying to, uh, you know,
bring some guys that may be culture because the high
school level they played little, the levels they played in
high school, you got a smaller gap that you have
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to feel when you come to the SEC. So I
don't think it's a knot. I don't think it's events.
I think Vinz may have been comfortable in Kentucky and
Ohio because that was his area, and he may we
may have had a little too much leverage, but you know,
we got a long show, so we can discuss that.
But I don't think it's a problem with us not
getting Ohio or Kentucky no more.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
No.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I mean, because what you want to do is get
the best players you could get, no matter where they're from.
So that's what he's going to take. And like I said,
when you're coming off four and eight, you got to
do some things different. So now when we come back,
we will we'll talk with Garrett Withington Witherington out of Alabama,
of recent UK football commit. I think you're going to
enjoy listening to, so stay with us here on Stockyards
Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk on news Radio six thirty WLAP.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
This is the home of the Wildcats, six thirty WLAP.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Great choice of your music here, Bo to introduce our
next guests here on Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk.
We have Garrett Witherington, UK football commit, defensive lineman, versatile
defensive lineman out of Alabama, briar Wood Christian in Birmingham,
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So Garrett, thank you for taking a few minutes beyond
with us this morning. Yes, sir, tell us a little
bit about what it was about the University of Kentucky
that you like so well that made you go ahead
and decide. Now I'm gonna go ahead and pick Kentucky
and now over Penn State, Mississippi State, Georgia Tech, Stanford
and other schools.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
There were a lot of things that kind of added
up to maybe decide Kentucky, but some of the main
things were definitely all the coaching and all the relationships
between the coaches and between the players. When I was
up there, it just really felt like home to me.
Just talking to all the other d linemen and all
the other recruits that are committed there. I mean, I
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really saw myself being there with them and winning games
with them.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
So tell us just a little bit about yourself, Garrett,
how you kind of describe yourself as a player.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
So I'm a big defensive tackle. So my main part
of my game is run stopping and pass rush. So
one thing that I do very well is I read
the offense. So I can read blocks very well and
get to the whoever has the ball.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
So, now our co host here is Anthony White, as
I told your former Oaly sec running back, but more
important to you good friends with and mar Stewart, the
defensive line coach. So Anthony, I want you to pass
on to big stew the fact that Garrett can also
play tight in and catch passes and cut a touchdown
pass two years ago in the playoffs, so he might
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need to think about sharing him little bit over on
that offensive side.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
That is crazy, Garrett is what was the recruiting process,
like like that's my homeboy, that's my that's my guy.
We came in in nineteen ninety five, which I know
a long time ago, but we came in toge what
is a relationship or just in recruit process, Like with
coach Stu.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Chach. Stu is awesome just the whole time. He just
was just very personal and great. He would face timmy
every now and then we were just talking on the
phone and just he kept trying to get me up
there for an official visit. And I finally found some
room and I made it happen and didn't look back.
So it was awesome. Him, Chris, Brad White and all
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those guys are just super cool. One thing about it
it's just how close they are with each other. I
always joke around and have like funny talks to each other,
and that's one of the best parts. So you gotta
have fun. You're doing it every day.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
So and Garrett, I know coach Stu likes versatility on
his defensive line. You know guys that can play different positions.
But I know that the listeners may not understand what's
your father's technique because I know you said tackle. They
got you with hybrid. There's a lot of different things
you probably can do. Uh what's what's where's you where
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your comfort zone end as far as on the defensive front.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
So I can play anything from strong side defensive end
all the way to noseguard. So this off season, I've
done a lot of training and trying to get bigger.
So I went from about two sixty to two ninety.
So my speech said the same. So you kind of
maybe more versatile across the whole front, being either a
strong side defensive end, detack or noseguard. So anything over there.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
And a lot of people ask me this. I run
a podcast. I mean, Larry Vault does a lot of
I mean, then this is a question. A lot of
people are being asked, you can be honest with us
or you can be honest with me. I don't know
about Larry. I don't know what Larry's gonna do with
this information. But coming off a Foreign A season, a
lot of people are saying, why would you want to
come over?
Speaker 5 (23:46):
They four and eight? And I always tell Larry Vault
the year in nineteen ninety four Kentucky was one in ten.
They saw me.
Speaker 6 (23:54):
Yeah, we wouldn't go one to ten with you. So
the foreign the Foreign A season that year, did that
influence you any bit? Or is that something there that
played no part in you de signed to come here.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
It's definitely something I thought about. It's hard not to,
you know, but just hearing all those guys talk and
you can really tell there's something different going on with
the players and everything. Uh yeah, you can just really
tell us different. When coach Brad White came to my house,
that was one of the first things he talked about
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with me, is just the culture is just different this year.
And when I was up there, so we watched their
OTA practice and just seeing all those guys flying field
was awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
How how much contact that you have with Mark Stoops
during your recruitment.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
A good bit, but it was it was mostly obviously
Coach Stewart and Chris brad White, but it really picked
up when I went up there. So when I went
up there, that's that was kind of our first real meeting,
like in person, and after that we stayed in contact
until I committed. So but it was great, Garrett.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Your commitment kind of surprised me a little bit when
it came because I didn't know that you've seen that
high in conect when you left to come up here
for your visit. Even in the back of your mind,
did you think, well, I'm probably just going to be
making this visit but I don't know about Kentucky, or
did you think you were already intrigued enough you were thinking,
if this goes well, I might just go ahead and
commit to Kentucky.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
So I was really happy about it from when I
went up there because I went to a game this
last year against Southern miss Okay and it was a
game that got delayed and we were just sitting in
there for a few hours. But it was awesome seeing
all the part of the facilities and all that really
intrigued me. But going up there, it definitely exceeded my expectations.
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I haven't canceled a few visits after that.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
So was there any particular play or anything you talked
to on either one of your visits that really kind
of resonated with you?
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Kaylin Edwards for Kentucky, he was awesome to talk to
Big d Tackle.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Yes, big big as a keyword there.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Yeah, he was awesome. So we went to dinner at
the it was It was a really nice restaurant. There's
one downtown and out far away but I can't remember
the name of it, but sitting there talking to him
with all the guys was awesome.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
And Garrett Ben Duncan, he committed a couple a week
I think a week before you did or whatever have you?
Are you are you guys, that's the new thing you
all do now, like you guys recruit each other and
make contact before you all come here. Have you talked
to Ben or any the incoming guys with you? Have
you built on any type of relationship with those guys.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
So we're all in a big group chat and we
talked every day in it. So that's one big thing
that I really enjoy talking to all those guys. I
thing the one person that I did talk to before
I committed was Dallas. He's the wide receiver. So we
went to on a we went to on a few
other official visits with each other, and we were texting
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and seeing what we both liked, and he told me
he thought he was there many Kentucky and I was like, okay,
And then I went out there and I was like, wow,
I see why you thought that. So we started talking
on the.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
One thing that kind of did. It's kind of intrigues me.
Garrett is a lot of people talked about as Anthony
said that four and eight last year, the culture didn't
seem right on the team. Now the coaches have been
talked about the culture is totally different, which again, coaches
are never going to tell you the culture's bad. I
mean we all know that, but now here in recruits
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like you and Ben Duncomb and others talking about boy,
I really really like the culture that I saw when
I found in Kentucky. Kind of explained a little bit
more to our listeners exactly what there was about that
culture that maybe stood out to you from being different
some of the other places that you visited.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
One thing that I felt was everybody was on the
same page the whole time. When it went from the
players to the position coaches, to the coordinators to the
head coach, everybody, I thought too. I felt like I
had the same goal and still so seeing that was good.
And then a thing else about the culture is just
how much work they get in while.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
Having fun with it.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Like I said earlier, doing it every day, if you
don't have some guys to have some fun with it
not going to be enjoyable. But seeing how much fun,
especially Chris Stewart and Chris brad White, how they kind
of talk back to each other and stuff like that
was just really fun to see.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
So, Hey, Garrett, I kind of kind of picked back
and off with Larry said the program. Have you ever
seen the movie The Program, which was out in the
early two thousand You weren't even born, but it's a
good football move.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
You ever seen the program?
Speaker 4 (29:09):
I probably have, but I can't remember the name, but
I probably have.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
So the coach on the program says, yeah, he's talking
to the parents trying to recruit the kid, and he's like, well,
my word is strong as oak. And that always stuck
with me and the reason I came to Kentucky is
because ray Dor all of my letters were handwritten and
there was always some personal comment in there. It's not
like you print up a letter and send it to
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every kid in the state. What is it because everybody
we talked to, like you've said it multiple times that
the coaches they convince What is it that convinces you
that they're going to do what they say and that
because your parents are putting you in their hands that
you true? What does that make them so trustworthy? What
kind of comments situation other than the other player, anybody
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can tell the same thing. What is it that Kentucky
does to let you know that, hey, I can trust
these people. I'm gonna be happy here.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
So one thing in particular was when we went to
Chris brad White's house. It was just me and my
family and then a few of the recruits and him
and his family. So when he brought me around his family,
kind of, I don't know, just like the family atmosphere
kind of made me feel like hole, that makes sense.
He told me he'll have the guys over all the
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time and was hanging out with him in his backyard
and just talking it up with him. Was just it
really made me feel like home. So that was one
thing in particular that stood out to me.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
So, and I know it's getting ready for your season
to be kicking off and everything. Get tell folks a
little bit about what kind of year you expect your
team to have and will you be in early enroly.
Will you be in Kentucky in January?
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Then yeah, obviously we're looking to make a state championships,
so that's goal for my entire team. So we definitely
need to bounce back a year after last year, so
I sure we broke even and then that's about it.
So this year we're definitely looking to turn that around
and get far in the playoffs. So I will be
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early enrollly. I'm actually after I get off the toime,
I'm gonna do some summer school to make sure that happens.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
But yeah, well, good luck to your summer school and
on a Sunday in July. That shows your dedication to
getting here. So we appreciate you taking the time to
be with us this morning. Look forward to having a
chance to see you in the near future.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Then yes, sir, good talking to you.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
All right, thank you again, stay with us here now
it's Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk here on news
Radio six thirty WLAP. We'll take a short break and
then be back.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
This is the home of the Wildcats, six thirty WLAP.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Another great choice of music there by Bo Robin Sennessey
brings us back on Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk
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this hour Sunday Morning Sports Talk has brought to you.
But Country Boy Brewing appreciate Geared Witherton sharing a little
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few thoughts on his commitment to Kentucky. At eleven o'clock,
we'll have Tawny Beckham coming up to talk about the
champions weekend and the TBT coming up. Anthony, we had
a question on the social media from a Cats fan
seventy four that wanted to know about a little bit
about what we expect from the team this year. I
think we've football team. We've kind of talked about that,
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but he's also asking about the announcement coming up today,
A big, big announcement for Kentucky football, potentially with the
quarterback Matt Panakotski Panatowski out of Cincinnata. Who's picking between Alabama, Oregon,
Arkansas and Kentucky. Alabama and Oregon have both had recent
foot quarterbacks commit to them. A lot of speculation he
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might pick Kentucky. He's a five star, top three hundred player.
Any thoughts on that and if he does pick Kentucky
what that could mean for Kentucky football.
Speaker 6 (33:11):
No, First of all, the program, if we stayed on
here several times, I do think there was a state
of panic, and that may have been we haven't gotten
to that point. I know we got guests lined up,
so I kind of want to address that. It may
there may have been a state of panic with events
and it kind of reminds me Larry you may you
agree or not agree when Brooks first left that a
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lot of inside people were saying Brooks understood that the
resources weren't there. He was putting in the effort, but
it wasn't Everything wasn't lining up. But as far as
the quarterback out of Cincinnati, I think it's great for us.
We absolutely need quarterbacks. But for the past, the problem
I have Larry Vaught for the past with twelve thirteen
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years and bringing in quarterbacks and if we're not developing.
I don't care like the stars. And this is one
thing I feel as a player. Them stars are not
walking out there on the field. Those stars look cute
until you on the swamp or to you between the hedges,
there's those stars. And this is not a knock on
This is not a knock on the quarterback at all.
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You ask me for my opinion, and I have had
this problem for them a little while. When we bring
in a quarterback, if we're gonna bring one, whether it
be cutter, whether it be uh star uh sounders that
if we bring let's let's develop them. Because if we're
not gonna develop them, if we have a five star
quarterback and don't have a resources develop them, then even
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if you come in as the best quarterback in high school.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
You still have to you know, you have to be
tall up.
Speaker 6 (34:47):
There's a lot of things you gott adjust to at
this level, especially in the SEC, and the biggest thing
is the speed of the game. And you could process
in high school if you're one of the biggest players,
or you got a great offensive line, or you got
your high h school is traditionally good at powerhouse and
they have a system and none of this I repeat,
Larry Vard, none of this has anything to do with
the kid at all. It is when you were asking
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me what does that mean for Kentucky? That means Kentucky
need to get there, get off their Keystris, and develop
a quarterback. So if he comes here and he's everything
he's meant to be, just develop him. I don't want
to hear two years, even if he redshirts this year,
I don't want to hear next year, or I don't
I don't want to hear his second year.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
Yeah, well we don't know. What do you mean, do you, Larry?
Do you hire somebody that you don't plan, that you
do not plan to advance in your business?
Speaker 4 (35:39):
No? I do not.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
So I hope we get him and hoping this ain't
bad pr for him. But but I'm giving and we've
only had we only have Bush and his system for
all year. So I'm you know, I'm cool with it.
I'm cool with it. I'm just I'm just really not
so on the idea of us developing a quarterback. So
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I hope he gets signed here, but from athlete's standpoint,
I'll be convinced to us. But from athlete standpoint, I
hope more that Kentucky does something with him.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
If he does, let me ask you this, Anthony. If
Kentucky went let's say seven and five last year, do
you think Cutter Bowley would be the starting quarterback this
season instead of going out and getting somebody because they
wouldn't have felt the pressure that they have to win
game one immediately. Do you think Cutter would have maybe
been the guy that would have been starting if they'd
have not had a four and eight season last year.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
That's a loaded question, Larry, because he was the reason
we went seventy five. He was part of the reason
we went four and eight. Not knocking the kid, I
love the kid. In this game, it didn't translate to
because our defense was were pretty good. Only like I said,
there was a lot of things going offensively. No, if
we if we had win seventy five, I would assume
he would have been part of the solution why we
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went seventy five.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
But you may differ. I feel like he was part
of the reason we went four to eight.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Well, he didn't really play that much. Vandergriff was the
main guy, and they went hit seventy five with him.
I don't think they'd have felt quite the need to
have to win day one with a guy that's what
years old this year.
Speaker 6 (37:16):
Let me return this question to you in Larry, I
know you gotta get to a break. Let me return
this question to you really quickly, though. So if we
went seventy five and Cutter never touched the field, would
Cutter get a chance?
Speaker 2 (37:27):
I say?
Speaker 5 (37:27):
Yet? Next year?
Speaker 2 (37:28):
This year, I say, you would have.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Right.
Speaker 6 (37:31):
So my point is when we did give him chances,
I'm not sure people were sold. And Larry Vark, I'm
on Cutter. I'm not sure that the Cutter we saw
was a cutter. I know he can beat because we didn't.
I've been saying this all along. We haven't had a
whole lot of protection. So I do think Cutter can
play football. He can spin the ball, that's no doubt.
But I'm saying if if we went seventy five with Brock,
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then Cutter probably would get a fair chance. Okay, he
put him in a few times with a terrible line
and he didn't look good.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
All right, So all right, stay with us here on
Stockyards Bank, Sunday morning Sports Talk. When we come back,
we have twenty Beckham talk, a little La Familiad TBT
and Champions weekend,
This is the home of the Wildcats. Six thirty WLAP.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome back to Stockyards Bank, Sunday Morning Sports tal Care
on News Radio sixty WLAP. I'm Larry Veltz sitting in
the Clark's Pumping Shop studio here in downtown Lexington. Anthony
White's up visiting mom, getting ready to bring her back
to Lexington with him for a week of glorious bliss.
I am sure, but right now we might have the
happiest UK fan on earth with us right now, one
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and only. JD Shelburn, Who's just what about twelve hours
off your Grand o Opry deve. You probably hadn't been
to bed yet, heavy JD.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
You know it's funny you say that. I think I
went to bed. We had an after party last night.
I went to bed about three o'clock and woke up
about seven thirty. So I'm ready to go again.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Well, tell us a little bit about what it was
like to perform at the Grand Old Opry.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Unbelievable. Just it's the technical country music, the biggest stage
of country music. I've been told last night many times,
and to finally get the invitation two weeks ago yesterday,
it was just I'm still speachless, to be honest, just
a moment we arrived to the way they treated us
to the debut. Walking out on stage at the Circle,
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you know, Steve Warner introduced me. It just I mean,
it's just just a moment that I'll never forget. I mean,
just the whole experience is unforgettable. To play on the
opera stage, a sound, just everything from start to finish
last night, it just could not have been any better,
and I'm just so grateful for the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Did you have a tier or two in your eye
when you went out there?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
I did?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
You know, it's Steve Warner kind of broke the ice,
of course, you know, Kentucky and John Connelly was backstage
with me as I walked out, and you know, they
just kind of kind of told me to just kind
of take it all in. It's going to go super fast,
and it just kind of broke the ice. But I
just had a tear there at the very end as
I was walking off stage. The Opera actually shared a
video on their socials last night, and I'm so glad
they got and we I just kind of lost it
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there at the end. But it was, you know, once
I went out on the ages like kind of like
time to go to work, and it seemed like I
got through both songs great, and the end is just
it could hold it any longer.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, because for people aren't familiar with the opry unless
it has changed, whether you're the world's greatest entertainer ever
or somebody making their first time making their opry debut.
You do two songs, correct, exactly?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Yeah, sometimes people some people get three. The ones that
get three are usually the one that kind of MC
the segment. And so yeah, Steve Warner MC this segment
last night. He was the Opry Square. Answers came out
first and Steve came out. He introduced them, and then
he performed three songs, and then I came at the
end the first segment. So it seems like most most
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artists get two, but some very few get three.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
So which two did you pick?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
So my current singles called Summertime All Year off my
new record coming out this year. I did that one
first and then it ended out with church few bars.
Still that's probably my most popular song. There was a
number one video on CMT four US, and so I
wanted to kind of do an upbeat song and then
kind of slow it down there at the end. And
many fans told me last night that I couldn't have
picked two more perfect songs for the situation, so most great.
I didn't forget the words. That was really just concerned
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I was gonna forget words to do. It's all the
adrenaline going in the moment, but muscle memory kicked in.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
JD.
Speaker 6 (03:16):
You you professionally, You've been doing this for a long time,
and as Larry said at the opera, you know he
becomes emotional at some point. I kind of relate this
to when people say, oh, you played with Tim Coles
someone else. I played with Tom Brady as well. At
any point, do you get to the point where you
was just like, look, I'm a professional and all this
is just life, or are you just a guy who's
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just kind of wired where any opportunity, you know, you
just any opportunity you get you just grateful for because
I'm assume when nothing really should surprise.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
You at this point, Well, you are correct. Yeah, I've
done this over three thousand times. I've actually was able
to actually go through and figure out how many shows
I've played for just throughout my career. It's right over
three thousands. I've done this so many times. At the
end of the day, it's you know, you're walking out
to another stage spotlight, and you know, obviously the operation
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is a little bit different because of the history and
how long I wanted to play this particular stage. So
at one moment you just go out and you're like,
you know what I walked on the stage is thousands
of times and at the end of the day, you
just got to go out there and just do what
you've done. I do every night. I mean I was
at first like Casino the night before, you know, playing
a show there. So it's just like, you know, you
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just sometimes just kind of grin and bear, just do
what you do every night and hope you get through it.
And last night I did get through it, but the
end kind of kind of took me there then.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
So did you wear any UK gear out there?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
JD. You know someone said you ought to get someone
said you want to get on the stage to say
go cats, real, real, real, loud as loud as you could.
So but once I'm walkd in that space in that
circle last night, step I put in that circle in
that spotlight hits you in the face it's like you
don't you can't think of anything, you don't very do
good to remember your name. It's like, you know, I
didn't even. I didn't even I forget to think my
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wife last night, and there's my guitar player. I just
it was just one of those things. It's like in
the moment, you're like, oh, I should have thanked them,
But when you're in the moment, things just roll out.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
JD.
Speaker 7 (05:07):
Did you get to the point where after it was
all over with and the emotions kind of made their
process through your mind, you're thinking, how did I get
through all that because it was such a.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Big deal for you. Yeah. Yeah, I took a deep breath.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Actually, my road manager backstage instead of prayer with me
right when I walked on, they were actually doing the
intro for me, and he kind of pulled me aside
and said a little prayer. I think that really helped
calm my nerves a little, because I was really nervous.
But you know, once I when I got my invitation,
I had no idea what time I would be on
the show, and I thought the later the show, the
later my performance on the show, the nervous more nervous,
I'm gonna be. But I was actually second artist out yesterday, so.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
That really helped me.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
You know, once the show started, the curtain went up,
It's like, okay, I'm next, So I've had time to
get nervous, to be honest, but I definitely it was
definitely a moment last night. I'll never forget the feeling
that I had backstage. I don't get that at every show.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
What's the backstage? What's backstage like at the operating I'm
not talking about wild after parties or anything like that,
but because it is a live radio broadcast and there's
a lot going on, talk about that with us in
the backstage and some of the directions you're getting before you.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Go on, it's very quiet and very personable. Every artist
has their own dressing room, and I had a special
dress room last night since it was my debut. It
was called it in the Circle is basically the first
dressing room when you check in with the security. With
your checking into security and just everybody's just so nice.
Everyone's going from room to room and they're practicing in
certain rooms and every door is open. I mean I
walked right in Steve warner dressing room last night. And
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he welcomed me with open arms and we chitchatted for
a minute. And John Collins out there talking to people
in the hallways, and it's almost just like it. You're
just like you know, you're at a church, you're going
to Sunday school. I mean, everyone's just so nice and
just so welcoming, and I mean they could not have
been nicer to my whole family. I got so last night.
I got ten backstage passes and I could bring like
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six workers considered like guitar players, photographers, And then I
had twenty tickets out front, and they let my family backstage,
walk out into the mezzanine and watch the show out front.
They gave him an option, you want to watch backstage
or out front. I just thought that was so nice.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Mom and Dad.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
I got to go out front and enjoy it last night,
and in church pew, and and then after the show
they got to come right backstage. So it just it's
just great. And this lady come up to me last night,
she said, now I want you to let's let you know.
My nickname is Lemonade, and I'm here for you anytime
you need me for anything. And so come to find
out later she makes the world famous lemonade in the
backstage at the opera and the popcorn, so pretty cool.
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I met all sorts of people last night.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Wow, well it's very very cool. And indeed, JD. Of
course you've got a lot of things going on right now.
You still might be the only again I know personally
this guy his own bourbon.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Hey, yeah, you know, I'm really excited about that. That's
that's been an amazing journey. Matter of fact, I'm gonna
be in Electionington next thurd It's coming Thursday at Beaumont
Center Liquor Barn, So I'm looking forward to, uh to
doing that.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
In liquor Bar.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
I'm doing a lot of signings, you know. That's that's
coming up, and seeing people purchased my bourbon and it's
actually selling off the shelf, which is just mind boggling
that people are buying my bourbon. I'm loving it. So
all those Kentucky fans listening out there, I'll be in
Beaumont Center next next Thursday, This coming Thursday, obviously signing
of the bottles one on one small batch.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
So if our producer Bow shows up out there, you
can take good care of him then.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Right of course, did you get Did you go to
the one Danville and took a snapshot of one? Didn't you?
Speaker 5 (08:24):
I did?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Then they said it's selling off the shelf quicker than
they could get it in, so they had people.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
I love one.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
So hopefully maybe you'll get to Danvil one day and
do a signing.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
That's in the plans.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Hey, real quick, I'm gonna be at Beaumont Center Liquor
Barn Thursday to tenth, from five to seven.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Come see me five to seven. Okay, Now do you
think JD? Now that you've maybe Anthony could chime in
on this too. Now that you have played at the
Grand Ole Opry, you think maybe now people will invite
you to sing a national anthem at the UK sporting event.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I really hope. So, you know, I've had many people.
Had someone last at the Opery last night asking you
think you ever sing of a UK basketball game? And
I thought it was kind of funny they asked me that.
I said, man, I hope. So, I mean, I'm a
lifelong Kentucky fan. And you know, even did WSM de
Cody show the night before. Of course he's a Kentucky native.
He asked me about Mark Pope on the air and
about you know, your k sports and all that stuff,
(09:13):
and he asked me if I'd done the anthem and
so hopefully this will get me over the edge to
finally make my debut reper ener for an anthem this year.
So I got my fingers crossed and.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
I got you back.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
Man, I didn't assume that you wasn't. It's what I
follow you on social media and those things. So UK
media do the right thing and get to get the
man out there.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
It isn't.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
It ain't like you got a bagging? Are you going
to do to make the phone call? But Jacky, I
do I do kind of want to ask you just
because you're so humble. I mean, you know you're Kentucky
and you you just seem to embrace the warmth like
you you're a superstar.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
You don't act like a superstar. Where does that? Where
does that come from?
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Like?
Speaker 5 (09:57):
And I know it's not tough. It's tough to say.
You're not going to say, yeah, I'm an arrogant so
and so.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
But no, like you were very personable, approachable, as I said, appreciative.
Well how does that happen when you have so many
people clamoring for your entertainment.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
I think it's how I started my upbringing. You know,
you know, Mom and Dad wasn't a country music star.
I wasn't born into the music world. I started playing
guitar in college at the University of University of Kentucky
back in O two when I was going to college
in Lexton and found a guitar and started from the bottom.
I mean I was playing to nobody, I mean, playing
the churches and nursing homes and picnics. And then I
started going to Louisville and playing a lot more opportunity
(10:37):
in lois to play music, and started building a little
fan base. And now I literally started at the bottom
and I'm just kind of built my own ship for
seventeen years since moved the Nashville and I wait and
to finally make it to Grand of Operay. I mean,
I'm obviously made a living doing this for seventeen years,
and you know, I've literally like earned it DoD dollar
handshake by handshake through fans and the fans that propelled
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me to where I'm at. I think this where I started.
Nothing was forgiven to me. Man, I didn't get I mean,
I knew when I moved to Nashville in two thousand
and seven. I knew one person, and that one person
was an artist, and I could never get him to
call me back to help me for nothing. And I
thought to myself, if I ever get to a point
one day where I'm somewhat successful, I'm never going to
be that way to someone else. And it's like, when
(11:23):
I moved down, you don't know anybody. You're forced to
do things on your own and meet people and shake
hands and go out and network. And I just did that,
and luckily the dots started to connect and people seemed
to really kind of gravitate towards my songwriting and just
musicianship of just being nice to people. Being nice to
people has propelled me to so many opportunities and just
(11:45):
it's so many different situations. I remember one time I
was at Texas Roadhouse eating a burger. I was literally
taking a bite of my burger, chewing the burger, and
someone come up and asked for a photo. I could
have easily said can I finish my burger, but I
saw the burger, took a photo, and I've just had
so many pictures moments like that where I've just never
been rude to people, and that's kind of whey. That's
why I'm where I'm at today.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Hey, Anthony, and you know who? You know who JD
comes up to the lection and hangs out with Sometimes.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
I can't. I'm anxious to find.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Out Mark Pope they're buds.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I didn't know that you're, sir, But no, he's a
but he's a rock star.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
And Larry Vaugh JD. When Larry Vaught was was our age.
He was a rock star.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
So I can't imagine what your lifestyle was like. But
I also went to college with Pope Mark. Now I
know Mark, don't live a kind of lifestyle. You live
three four hours of sleep, standing up at three or
four in the morning, JD.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
You know Larry Voss a legend man. I tell everybody
he's a legend, living, legend man, living legend.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
The living's important part right there. Let's let's let's hope
they continue this. But good congratulations JD. And again, tell
folks where they can come out and see you here
Thursday night if they want to.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Yeah, I'm gonna be lexand Kentucky Beaumont Center, Liquor Barn
signing my new bottle of one on one small batch
presented by Inclusion Brand, and I'm really excited to be
there from five to seven this Thursday. We'd love to
see a lot of my Kentucky folks and friends. This
will be our first signing and one of our probably
only signings in the Lection and area. We're gonna do
a bunch of them all over the state. Lections next
on our list, So this Thursday, Beaumont Center Liquor Barn,
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five to seven. Love to see you, guys, And if
you just.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Would like to come out and hear JD perform, it's
about a month from a month from now. He'll be
in Danville on August the seventh performing, So come on
down to our town and listen to some j D.
Shelber music.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Thank you so much for all the support through the
years with you, guys, man, I.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Never forget it, all right, JD. Well, thank you. Tell Amy,
I'm sorry you forgot her, but I know you still
love her, so hopefully you'll survive that.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I'm in a dog house. Later, I'm coming your house
and sleeping for the week.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
All right, anytime, buddy, So thank you again.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
Brother.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
All right, stay with us here. We'll take a break
on Sunday, Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk and be
back with more.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
This is the home of the Wildcats, six thirty w LAP.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Hey deeven Telco or the JD Shelburd Music with But
that's what we got to do here on Stockyards Bank
Sunday Morning Sports Talk on news Radio six thirty WLAP.
So appreciate JD's joining us, coming off with his debut
with the Opry last night and hopefully won't be his
last time there. I don't think it will be. But
just always good Anthony to see a Kentucky and do
so well.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
Absolutely, man, let's say his personal guy. Man, I've never
met him. I follow him on social media. You know,
I'm an introvert or whatever, but no, I love this story.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
Man. They said he got it from the mud. That's
what we say in the hood, Larry, Okay, he got
it from the mud. I mean he got it from
the dirty.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
Wasn't given anything but a humble guy UK and I'm
surprised that he hasn't played UK football basketball, but he
should be able to do national anthem.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
He's done a pre hes, he's done. He did one
of the pregame concerts at the football before they stop
doing those. But he's never saying the national anthem at
a UK sporting event, which, considering he was the UK
Alumni of the Year a few years ago, would seemed
like a pretty natural fit. So maybe maybe it will
happen at Allso but we'll see. Now, coming up at
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ten thirty, we're going to have somebody that you you're
going to get to know pretty well. I think Alabama
defensive lineman Garrett Witherington, who is committed to Kentucky a
really intriguing type player. Again, one of these guys that
your buddy and mar Stewart is bringing in. He's about
about two hundred and ninety pounds, says he can play
multiple positions. They're kind of looking at him as a hybrid,
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he said. So he he really likes everything about Kentucky.
It's kind of interesting. His mom went to Auburn, his
dad went to Alabama, and now he says he's ready
to come up to Kentucky and beat up on both
of them. So I like his attitude.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
Larr, do you know, you know when you know the
last couple d lineman or edge hybrid, you know how
many like the last couple of people with hybrids, right right,
last couple of people.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Has been a D lineman.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
But you know I played edge this, that and the.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Other, right right. You know why that is?
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I guess they're just that versatile.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
That Now, that is part of it.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
For you to play here, you gotta be versial. For
you to play for Brad or n Ward. You got
versatile if you if your hand is in the dirt,
you and an whar's room.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
If you are stand up, you in Brad's room, I
got you.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Okay, yeah, so Brad, So.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Brad don't want to look bad.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
So but Edward probably does a whole lot of the work,
but he comes in under a whole nother blanket or whatever.
But I respect Brad, you know, I respect the White
and Steward a whole lot. So it's but that is
a funny thing. I just keep noticing on I'm watching
the film, like this guy is definitely a D lineman,
but in the three four defense, it kind of looks different.
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But when you start label them, and I found this
just from inside information, when you start labeling him as
an edge rusher instead of a tackle or in, then
he changes the room that he that he meets.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
It I got you, Okay, Now let me ask Anthony.
We we talked to s briefroinly. We got a couple
of minutes before we go to break and then we'll
come back and we'll get Garrett on.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Here with us.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
But caler Larry that started us off today was worried
about the Kentucky didn't have any commitments from en State
players this year, and I don't think they have any
commitments from anybody in Ohio this year. Does that worry
you or do you think that's just kind of a
shift in direction that Mark Soups is going to go
with his football recruiting.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
Now, I think it's a shift in direction, and I
think there I think there's a huge stigma about uh.
I think there's the coaching staff being from Ohio, and
that's the only Northern maybe Ohio, maybe Michigan, that's the
only those are the only northern states that are really
in the top, you know, football categories, when you're talking
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about high school or just the culture of football. You
got Georgia, who's who's heavy, Florida's heavy, California's heavy, Texas heavy.
But when you get to the north, it's usually Ohio
or or Michigan. So that's why I think that kind
of went away. But I think we were maybe scrubbling about.
We got lucky with Limbo, and we got lucky with
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Benny Sneill. We got lucky with a lot of those guys.
You just can't live off that the same way we
can't live at the quarterback situation in the portal. So
I think that they're trying to migrate back down south,
you know. I think we're trying to, you know, get
down Florida, Georgia. The guys were playing against Georgia probably
don't have to leave the state. Florida probably don't have
to leave the state. Texas don't have to leave the state.
(18:34):
And this is not a knock on Kentucky football. Yeah,
I know you're saying we should get some of the
top guys from the state, But I think to make
a point, I think we are trying to, uh, you know,
bring some guys that may be culture because the high
school level they played little, the levels they played in
high school, you got a smaller gap that you have
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to feel when you come to the SEC. So I
don't think it's a knot. I don't think it's events.
I think Vinz may have been comfortable in Kentucky and
Ohio because that was his area, and he may we
may have had a little too much leverage, but you know,
we got a long show, so we can discuss that.
But I don't think it's a problem with us not
getting Ohio or Kentucky no more.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
No.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I mean, because what you want to do is get
the best players you could get, no matter where they're from.
So that's what he's going to take. And like I said,
when you're coming off four and eight, you got to
do some things different. So now when we come back,
we will we'll talk with Garrett Withington Witherington out of Alabama,
of recent UK football commit. I think you're going to
enjoy listening to, so stay with us here on Stockyards
Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk on news Radio six thirty WLAP.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
This is the home of the Wildcats, six thirty WLAP.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Great choice of your music here, Bo to introduce our
next guests here on Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk.
We have Garrett Witherington, UK football commit, defensive lineman, versatile
defensive lineman out of Alabama, briar Wood Christian in Birmingham,
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So Garrett, thank you for taking a few minutes beyond
with us this morning. Yes, sir, tell us a little
bit about what it was about the University of Kentucky
that you like so well that made you go ahead
and decide. Now I'm gonna go ahead and pick Kentucky
and now over Penn State, Mississippi State, Georgia Tech, Stanford
and other schools.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
There were a lot of things that kind of added
up to maybe decide Kentucky, but some of the main
things were definitely all the coaching and all the relationships
between the coaches and between the players. When I was
up there, it just really felt like home to me.
Just talking to all the other d linemen and all
the other recruits that are committed there. I mean, I
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really saw myself being there with them and winning games
with them.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
So tell us just a little bit about yourself, Garrett,
how you kind of describe yourself as a player.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
So I'm a big defensive tackle. So my main part
of my game is run stopping and pass rush. So
one thing that I do very well is I read
the offense. So I can read blocks very well and
get to the whoever has the ball.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
So, now our co host here is Anthony White, as
I told your former Oaly sec running back, but more
important to you good friends with and mar Stewart, the
defensive line coach. So Anthony, I want you to pass
on to big stew the fact that Garrett can also
play tight in and catch passes and cut a touchdown
pass two years ago in the playoffs, so he might
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need to think about sharing him little bit over on
that offensive side.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
That is crazy, Garrett is what was the recruiting process,
like like that's my homeboy, that's my that's my guy.
We came in in nineteen ninety five, which I know
a long time ago, but we came in toge what
is a relationship or just in recruit process, Like with
coach Stu.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Chach. Stu is awesome just the whole time. He just
was just very personal and great. He would face timmy
every now and then we were just talking on the
phone and just he kept trying to get me up
there for an official visit. And I finally found some
room and I made it happen and didn't look back.
So it was awesome. Him, Chris, Brad White and all
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those guys are just super cool. One thing about it
it's just how close they are with each other. I
always joke around and have like funny talks to each other,
and that's one of the best parts. So you gotta
have fun. You're doing it every day.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
So and Garrett, I know coach Stu likes versatility on
his defensive line. You know guys that can play different positions.
But I know that the listeners may not understand what's
your father's technique because I know you said tackle. They
got you with hybrid. There's a lot of different things
you probably can do. Uh what's what's where's you where
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your comfort zone end as far as on the defensive front.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
So I can play anything from strong side defensive end
all the way to noseguard. So this off season, I've
done a lot of training and trying to get bigger.
So I went from about two sixty to two ninety.
So my speech said the same. So you kind of
maybe more versatile across the whole front, being either a
strong side defensive end, detack or noseguard. So anything over there.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
And a lot of people ask me this. I run
a podcast. I mean, Larry Vault does a lot of
I mean, then this is a question. A lot of
people are being asked, you can be honest with us
or you can be honest with me. I don't know
about Larry. I don't know what Larry's gonna do with
this information. But coming off a Foreign A season, a
lot of people are saying, why would you want to
come over?
Speaker 5 (23:46):
They four and eight? And I always tell Larry Vault
the year in nineteen ninety four Kentucky was one in ten.
They saw me.
Speaker 6 (23:54):
Yeah, we wouldn't go one to ten with you. So
the foreign the Foreign A season that year, did that
influence you any bit? Or is that something there that
played no part in you de signed to come here.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
It's definitely something I thought about. It's hard not to,
you know, but just hearing all those guys talk and
you can really tell there's something different going on with
the players and everything. Uh yeah, you can just really
tell us different. When coach Brad White came to my house,
that was one of the first things he talked about
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with me, is just the culture is just different this year.
And when I was up there, so we watched their
OTA practice and just seeing all those guys flying field
was awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
How how much contact that you have with Mark Stoops
during your recruitment.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
A good bit, but it was it was mostly obviously
Coach Stewart and Chris brad White, but it really picked
up when I went up there. So when I went
up there, that's that was kind of our first real meeting,
like in person, and after that we stayed in contact
until I committed. So but it was great, Garrett.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Your commitment kind of surprised me a little bit when
it came because I didn't know that you've seen that
high in conect when you left to come up here
for your visit. Even in the back of your mind,
did you think, well, I'm probably just going to be
making this visit but I don't know about Kentucky, or
did you think you were already intrigued enough you were thinking,
if this goes well, I might just go ahead and
commit to Kentucky.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
So I was really happy about it from when I
went up there because I went to a game this
last year against Southern miss Okay and it was a
game that got delayed and we were just sitting in
there for a few hours. But it was awesome seeing
all the part of the facilities and all that really
intrigued me. But going up there, it definitely exceeded my expectations.
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I haven't canceled a few visits after that.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
So was there any particular play or anything you talked
to on either one of your visits that really kind
of resonated with you?
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Kaylin Edwards for Kentucky, he was awesome to talk to
Big d Tackle.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Yes, big big as a keyword there.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Yeah, he was awesome. So we went to dinner at
the it was It was a really nice restaurant. There's
one downtown and out far away but I can't remember
the name of it, but sitting there talking to him
with all the guys was awesome.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
And Garrett Ben Duncan, he committed a couple a week
I think a week before you did or whatever have you?
Are you are you guys, that's the new thing you
all do now, like you guys recruit each other and
make contact before you all come here. Have you talked
to Ben or any the incoming guys with you? Have
you built on any type of relationship with those guys.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
So we're all in a big group chat and we
talked every day in it. So that's one big thing
that I really enjoy talking to all those guys. I
thing the one person that I did talk to before
I committed was Dallas. He's the wide receiver. So we
went to on a we went to on a few
other official visits with each other, and we were texting
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and seeing what we both liked, and he told me
he thought he was there many Kentucky and I was like, okay,
And then I went out there and I was like, wow,
I see why you thought that. So we started talking
on the.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
One thing that kind of did. It's kind of intrigues me.
Garrett is a lot of people talked about as Anthony
said that four and eight last year, the culture didn't
seem right on the team. Now the coaches have been
talked about the culture is totally different, which again, coaches
are never going to tell you the culture's bad. I
mean we all know that, but now here in recruits
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like you and Ben Duncomb and others talking about boy,
I really really like the culture that I saw when
I found in Kentucky. Kind of explained a little bit
more to our listeners exactly what there was about that
culture that maybe stood out to you from being different
some of the other places that you visited.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
One thing that I felt was everybody was on the
same page the whole time. When it went from the
players to the position coaches, to the coordinators to the
head coach, everybody, I thought too. I felt like I
had the same goal and still so seeing that was good.
And then a thing else about the culture is just
how much work they get in while.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
Having fun with it.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Like I said earlier, doing it every day, if you
don't have some guys to have some fun with it
not going to be enjoyable. But seeing how much fun,
especially Chris Stewart and Chris brad White, how they kind
of talk back to each other and stuff like that
was just really fun to see.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
So, Hey, Garrett, I kind of kind of picked back
and off with Larry said the program. Have you ever
seen the movie The Program, which was out in the
early two thousand You weren't even born, but it's a
good football move.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
You ever seen the program?
Speaker 4 (29:09):
I probably have, but I can't remember the name, but
I probably have.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
So the coach on the program says, yeah, he's talking
to the parents trying to recruit the kid, and he's like, well,
my word is strong as oak. And that always stuck
with me and the reason I came to Kentucky is
because ray Dor all of my letters were handwritten and
there was always some personal comment in there. It's not
like you print up a letter and send it to
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every kid in the state. What is it because everybody
we talked to, like you've said it multiple times that
the coaches they convince What is it that convinces you
that they're going to do what they say and that
because your parents are putting you in their hands that
you true? What does that make them so trustworthy? What
kind of comments situation other than the other player, anybody
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can tell the same thing. What is it that Kentucky
does to let you know that, hey, I can trust
these people. I'm gonna be happy here.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
So one thing in particular was when we went to
Chris brad White's house. It was just me and my
family and then a few of the recruits and him
and his family. So when he brought me around his family,
kind of, I don't know, just like the family atmosphere
kind of made me feel like hole, that makes sense.
He told me he'll have the guys over all the
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time and was hanging out with him in his backyard
and just talking it up with him. Was just it
really made me feel like home. So that was one
thing in particular that stood out to me.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
So, and I know it's getting ready for your season
to be kicking off and everything. Get tell folks a
little bit about what kind of year you expect your
team to have and will you be in early enroly.
Will you be in Kentucky in January?
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Then yeah, obviously we're looking to make a state championships,
so that's goal for my entire team. So we definitely
need to bounce back a year after last year, so
I sure we broke even and then that's about it.
So this year we're definitely looking to turn that around
and get far in the playoffs. So I will be
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early enrollly. I'm actually after I get off the toime,
I'm gonna do some summer school to make sure that happens.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
But yeah, well, good luck to your summer school and
on a Sunday in July. That shows your dedication to
getting here. So we appreciate you taking the time to
be with us this morning. Look forward to having a
chance to see you in the near future.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Then yes, sir, good talking to you.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
All right, thank you again, stay with us here now
it's Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk here on news
Radio six thirty WLAP. We'll take a short break and
then be back.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
This is the home of the Wildcats, six thirty WLAP.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Another great choice of music there by Bo Robin Sennessey
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But Country Boy Brewing appreciate Geared Witherton sharing a little
(32:15):
few thoughts on his commitment to Kentucky. At eleven o'clock,
we'll have Tawny Beckham coming up to talk about the
champions weekend and the TBT coming up. Anthony, we had
a question on the social media from a Cats fan
seventy four that wanted to know about a little bit
about what we expect from the team this year. I
think we've football team. We've kind of talked about that,
(32:37):
but he's also asking about the announcement coming up today,
A big, big announcement for Kentucky football, potentially with the
quarterback Matt Panakotski Panatowski out of Cincinnata. Who's picking between Alabama, Oregon,
Arkansas and Kentucky. Alabama and Oregon have both had recent
foot quarterbacks commit to them. A lot of speculation he
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might pick Kentucky. He's a five star, top three hundred player.
Any thoughts on that and if he does pick Kentucky
what that could mean for Kentucky football.
Speaker 6 (33:11):
No, First of all, the program, if we stayed on
here several times, I do think there was a state
of panic, and that may have been we haven't gotten
to that point. I know we got guests lined up,
so I kind of want to address that. It may
there may have been a state of panic with events
and it kind of reminds me Larry you may you
agree or not agree when Brooks first left that a
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lot of inside people were saying Brooks understood that the
resources weren't there. He was putting in the effort, but
it wasn't Everything wasn't lining up. But as far as
the quarterback out of Cincinnati, I think it's great for us.
We absolutely need quarterbacks. But for the past, the problem
I have Larry Vaught for the past with twelve thirteen
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years and bringing in quarterbacks and if we're not developing.
I don't care like the stars. And this is one
thing I feel as a player. Them stars are not
walking out there on the field. Those stars look cute
until you on the swamp or to you between the hedges,
there's those stars. And this is not a knock on
This is not a knock on the quarterback at all.
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You ask me for my opinion, and I have had
this problem for them a little while. When we bring
in a quarterback, if we're gonna bring one, whether it
be cutter, whether it be uh star uh sounders that
if we bring let's let's develop them. Because if we're
not gonna develop them, if we have a five star
quarterback and don't have a resources develop them, then even
(34:41):
if you come in as the best quarterback in high school.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
You still have to you know, you have to be
tall up.
Speaker 6 (34:47):
There's a lot of things you gott adjust to at
this level, especially in the SEC, and the biggest thing
is the speed of the game. And you could process
in high school if you're one of the biggest players,
or you got a great offensive line, or you got
your high h school is traditionally good at powerhouse and
they have a system and none of this I repeat,
Larry Vard, none of this has anything to do with
the kid at all. It is when you were asking
(35:09):
me what does that mean for Kentucky? That means Kentucky
need to get there, get off their Keystris, and develop
a quarterback. So if he comes here and he's everything
he's meant to be, just develop him. I don't want
to hear two years, even if he redshirts this year,
I don't want to hear next year, or I don't
I don't want to hear his second year.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
Yeah, well we don't know. What do you mean, do you, Larry?
Do you hire somebody that you don't plan, that you
do not plan to advance in your business?
Speaker 4 (35:39):
No? I do not.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
So I hope we get him and hoping this ain't
bad pr for him. But but I'm giving and we've
only had we only have Bush and his system for
all year. So I'm you know, I'm cool with it.
I'm cool with it. I'm just I'm just really not
so on the idea of us developing a quarterback. So
(36:02):
I hope he gets signed here, but from athlete's standpoint,
I'll be convinced to us. But from athlete standpoint, I
hope more that Kentucky does something with him.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
If he does, let me ask you this, Anthony. If
Kentucky went let's say seven and five last year, do
you think Cutter Bowley would be the starting quarterback this
season instead of going out and getting somebody because they
wouldn't have felt the pressure that they have to win
game one immediately. Do you think Cutter would have maybe
been the guy that would have been starting if they'd
have not had a four and eight season last year.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
That's a loaded question, Larry, because he was the reason
we went seventy five. He was part of the reason
we went four and eight. Not knocking the kid, I
love the kid. In this game, it didn't translate to
because our defense was were pretty good. Only like I said,
there was a lot of things going offensively. No, if
we if we had win seventy five, I would assume
he would have been part of the solution why we
(36:57):
went seventy five.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
But you may differ. I feel like he was part
of the reason we went four to eight.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Well, he didn't really play that much. Vandergriff was the
main guy, and they went hit seventy five with him.
I don't think they'd have felt quite the need to
have to win day one with a guy that's what
years old this year.
Speaker 6 (37:16):
Let me return this question to you in Larry, I
know you gotta get to a break. Let me return
this question to you really quickly, though. So if we
went seventy five and Cutter never touched the field, would
Cutter get a chance?
Speaker 2 (37:27):
I say?
Speaker 5 (37:27):
Yet? Next year?
Speaker 2 (37:28):
This year, I say, you would have.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Right.
Speaker 6 (37:31):
So my point is when we did give him chances,
I'm not sure people were sold. And Larry Vark, I'm
on Cutter. I'm not sure that the Cutter we saw
was a cutter. I know he can beat because we didn't.
I've been saying this all along. We haven't had a
whole lot of protection. So I do think Cutter can
play football. He can spin the ball, that's no doubt.
But I'm saying if if we went seventy five with Brock,
(37:53):
then Cutter probably would get a fair chance. Okay, he
put him in a few times with a terrible line
and he didn't look good.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
All right, So all right, stay with us here on
Stockyards Bank, Sunday morning Sports Talk. When we come back,
we have twenty Beckham talk, a little La Familiad TBT
and Champions weekend,
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