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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome in Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony
White along with Larry Vaught, coming to you from Clark's
Main Street Market studios in downtown Lexington, Kentucky, and Larry Vaught.
I said, Anthony White and Larry Vapp Because Jack Pilgrim
may still have baby hangover. We typically have a conversation
(00:27):
when he's not gonna be on, so I'm not certain
he's not gonna be on. But he's entered fatherhood for
the second time this week, so we're gonna give him
a little grace.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Because I can tell you he's not sleeping. I feel
pretty confident of that, unless he just went to sleep
for something like that, because those new ones they don't.
Let's just sleep a whole lot early, And I'm pretty
sure Dad usually gets that duty, which is ununderstandable. So
but congratulations Jack, sound like he had quite a weekend.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
But so you're saying he's not sleeping. Don't you just
get sleep whenever you can?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
You do, but you don't get much. You learn to
survive without a whole lot of sleep.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
And secondly, Larry Vaught, he's done this before, so shouldn't
he be at least a novice.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
That is, he's not a rookie anymore.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
And now it's just twice as hard now because now
you got to worry. The only time you get to
sleep is if both of them are asleep at the
same time, and that never happens.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Well, that is good. How was your week, Larry Vaught?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Well, my week was good. I got to watch my
youngest grandson play in the middle school seven on seven
over eastern Kentucky with these teammates, and I always enjoy
the one and watching him and then my buddy Tim
estes I've had. I don't know if I mentioned last
week that I had the ground hog and raccoon trouble
in my yard and we trapped the raccoon Friday night.
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But the groundhog, I think got smart of this last
night because he took the food. But the trap didn't
go off, so I gotta go back at it tonight.
But Tim took the raccoon let him out in the
middle of Lincoln County somewhere, so we got one down,
one still to go.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I always wondered, I'm not from the country, and I
know years ago we used to do a segment of
the show that we gave like household and domestic advice
on repairs, I guess DYI and just around the house things.
And I'm also in Twinsburg Heights. Pretty country. It's really
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not Cleveland. I consider I say Cleveland, but it's really
not Cleveland. And the animals typically get into the animal
trap and they get whatever they want out of there,
and the trap has been yours. You're saying the trap
did not go off. Our traps will go off, but
the food will be gone and the animal will be two.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, the food is gone. And like when we got
the raccoon Friday night, which my grandson was part of this,
and I think he placed the honey bun better than
Tim and I placed it without him last night might
have been the problem, but the raccoon dug all the
grass up underneath the caves trying to find a way
out of there, but couldn't. So we'll see what happens tonight.
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We're gona make a few changes, and hopefully. I'm sure
the groundhog is going to come back because he's been
visiting my garden every night for two weeks, so I
can't imagine it's going to change his routine now that
he got a honeybun on top of it for a
little bonus. So we'll try it again tonight. But I
did find out when I called the animal control something
I didn't know, Like, if you have a raccoon or
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a groundhog or a skunk or something in your house,
he'll come get it and trap it and remove it
for you. But if it's in your yard, they won't.
And I said, well, wouldn't it make sense if you
came and got it, Why it's in my yard, it
wouldn't get my house if we both be happier. But
apparently that's not the way it works.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
You said they'll come and get it, you mean free, I'm.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Assuming Yeah, yeah, they'll come and help you, help you
solve your propert if it's actually.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
In your house, and if it's outside, they will. There
are people that will come and get it, but you
have to pay handsomely.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Okay, So I've got my buddy. Tim asked, he's a
big game hunter, so he found he got knew somebody
that had a trap, and we said it and worked.
We we helped the raccoon in less than two hours
Friday night. Wow, pretty swaggy. Thinking we were we might
go into business but I guess the groundhog brought us
down to earth last night.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Careful who you call about removing critters from your house
and yard, because this happened to me a couple of
months ago where I had a raccoon in my attic
and I called somebody to find out how much it
would cost, and the guy told me, well, it's going
to cost three hundred dollars for me to come out,
and Wow, do an estimate. See if I can find
the raccoon. I said, dude, there's a raccoon in my attic.
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I'm just saving myself three hundred dollars by telling you this.
He didn't like that. He hung out on me. It
was like, well, he's not gonna get my business, so
I took care of it myself.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Well, so if I can't, if we don't have any
like I made to bring bow down, then call me.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I'll get rid of him.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Larry, Uh, I didn't realize Tim was. Tim is a
man of many of many tools. He has a lot
of things. I didn't know that Tim was a big
game hunter or small game hunter any type.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I didn't know he was a hunter him.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
He has a lot of talents and he sometimes kind
of gets me into things like when he had me, well,
we cured a country Ham with the four Rahers over
Lincoln County a couple of years ago and gave me
a look at country Ham. I never really country Ham
again after helping cure what just ruined me on that?
But Tim's got a lot of talents.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah, well, we appreciate Tim. I like Tom.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
He text us during the show sometimes and it brings
a smile to my face. So Tim, thanks for helping
out my man Larry, Larry Vaughugh. We have a pretty
good show today. We have Brittany Harris coming on at
ten thirty and Lincoln Watkins tighty end out of Michigan,
UK commit at eleven fifteen.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Right.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Correct, And I think folks will really enjoy him. And
I don't know whether I bow and I may not
even get to talk to him because I knew the
first time and I talked to him and he said
his whole focus on the football field was moving the
chains and getting those first downs. I thought, well, when
we get him on with Anthony, I don't know where
this conversation is going because Anthony White has preached this
for since I've ever known him. So I said, Anthony
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and Lincoln made us spend the whole time talk about
the importance of first downs this.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And we're going to get into SEC Media Day was
this week, and I've kind of changed my stance a
little bit. I think Mark Stude finally he has spoke,
could be coach speak, but I kind of like some
of the things he said, and I can get behind
some of them. But Larry Vaught, does it not? Do
you have to be a genius to realize if you
keep picking up first down You do know, Larry Vaught,
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if you keep picking up first downs, that the offense
stays on the field, the defense doesn't come on the field,
and you are progressing toward the ultimate goal of getting
to the end zone. If you don't pick up first downs,
you got to go sit on the bench. So I
don't know why that sounds so genius that pick up
first downs, Larry Vuck.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Well, I was always kind of like the Craig Geese
philosophy too, though, if you just throw it to him
in the end zone, it'll get you to touchdown and
you get on off the field.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Now, I mean that is absolutely the case. I'm saying
the first goal and this is I break it. I'm
gonna break it down more minutely. The first goal is
to pick up the first Once you pick up the
first down, Larry, you don't have to lay down on
you don't have to run out of bounds. You could
go all the way to the end zone if you
want to. The first goal is to pick up the
first down. Here's here's some profound Larry Vuck. If you
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are a football player and your goal is to pick
up a first down, so now you let the officer's
coordinators say, bush Hampden. We just pick any office of
coordinat out of there. You a guy like bush Hampden.
You want bush Hampden to say, well, it is third
and seven, It is third and eight, It is third
and three, it is third and five. What play can
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we call? What personnel do you want to use it?
You know who always wants to be in that personnel
when it's third and something. You know what person always
wants to be in the personnel when a coach is
trying to figure out how we have to keep moving
the change. You don't have to give me a specific person,
but say Larry Vaught Junior was a football player who
wants to be in that personnel.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Grouping everybody right you, So you.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Make your skill sets where you can block, you make
your skill sets where you can run, catch, whatever you
have to do to be on the field. But the
point is, when you have the personnel that can be
on the field to move the change. You can be
on the field for four downs. You could be on
the field for three downs. You could be just like
a first down. You could be a third They call
them third down backs. I don't believe in being a
third down back. I believe been every down back. But
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point being is, I think it all starts with the
mindset of I'm going to do whatever I can do
that when we need to move the chains, coach has
to have me on the field, the quarterback has to
have me on the field, and the team appreciations me be.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
On the field.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
So you're right, Me and Lincoln may just talk this
type of football all show long, But to me, you
make it sound like it's a profound thing, like wow,
that's neat that you believe that you need to get
first downs. But everybody who watches football understands the goal
of it. Why do you think they have those those
markers ten yards apart. They just have them their free
show or to pay somebody to move just so they
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can be on TV when somebody runs out of bounds.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Okay, I just wanted my bet.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
What was your bet?
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I bet a friend of mine that I could tweak
you and get you going on first downs in the
first fifteen minutes of the show today. So it worked.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Well, I mean it's just kind of said a passion.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I don't disagree with you. I just like to have
a little fun with you on that. I know how
much you believe in that, and I always and how
frustrating it gets to you sometimes where you don't just
think about this moving the chains on that third down
play instead of going d for something like that. So
I knew that would get you on, but link it
just reminds me a lot of talking to you when
I talk to him about that, which is unusual when
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you're talking to a high school senior.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
And I don't want Lincoln to get I don't want
him to get frustrated or get concerned by my passion
for it. Because Larry Vasz, they pay people, they actually
pay people to hold those ten yard chains. They pay
people to do that. Larry vaugh And if you ever
go you said your grandson plays seven or seven and
I'm sure you watched them play middle school football and
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things like that. If you do not have anybody to
hold those ten yard chains, they will not even start
the game, Larry, they don't even start the game. If
you have like, Okay, nobody really wants to do it
because you got kids. You want to sit there and
watch them. And it really kind of takes consistency where
you can't pay attention to the game.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
You got to be dedicated to it.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
What if you don't want to stay the whole game,
but they will not even start the game. If you
don't have somebody to show you those ten yards, you
got to get every play, Larry Vat.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
You're right. And Lincoln last year had seventy eight touches
and seventy two of them went for first downs.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Anthony, that's my man. See.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
See, if you don't believe in Mark Stoops right now,
just don't believe in them, because we're doing all the
right things. I ain't got a whole lot of faith
in this year, but I do got a whole lot
of faith and Mark Stoops and this staff. So I'm
getting on the band wagon, Larry for I think I'm
gonna real you in a little bit. I think I'm
gonna make you a little bit more optimistic about this season.
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I know, you know, he still has to show us
him and the staff still has to show us there's things.
Bush is returning for a second year. I don't know
the last time we had an offensive coordinator return for
a second year. But he's returning for a second year,
so we're gonna give him a chance. Bo went to
TBT like familiarly. Well, I ain't gonna say bow. Somebody
who looked like Bo was that TBT. So we're gonna
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get in to a little bit of that. We got
UK recruits coming on. Stay tuned because we're gonna put
you on a football band wagon.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
We'll be back after this year.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
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Speaker 1 (12:21):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I am
Anthony White along with Larry Vaught and Daddy Jack is out.
Daddy he may be sleeping. Larry Vaught said, he's probably
taking cat naps whatever. Babies don't let you sleep. So
congratulations to Jack Pilgrim. He's not with us this morning,
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but who is with us is Stockyards Bank and they
have been with us since nineteen oh fair nineteen oh four,
Larry Vaught, Stockyards Bank, we started the show, you would
know they have been. They've been our trust departner FO
one hundred and one years, one hundred and twenty one years.
(13:03):
Am I right under twenty four years? One years under
twenty one years? Larry Vatt that we did have a
sec media day last week past week, and uh, there's
some things that Mark Stup's discussed, and I kind of
like some of the words.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
He hasn't spoken for a while about our team.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
I do know because I'm friends with and I do
I am kind of close to some of the people
on the staff, and I keep an eye on some
of those things. Nothing has really turned turned my face
to the point where I was concerned and the silence
really didn't concern me. It just didn't sell me. But
now you know, listen to Mark stue speak. It's somewhat
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coach speak, but it's somewhat reality. I don't think we're
you know, we're we're being blown smoke about. But I
do think we have a tough schedule. I think we
have a hill to climb. But Mark Steus understands that,
and he understood still when he came here there was
a hell he had a climb two and ten team.
It's hard to turn around, especially in this conference. But
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speaking on their media day, Mark Stoops spoke about a
lot of things. What was something concerning what parts of
it was concerning Mark Stoops or any of the players
Afari or any of the other players that spoke at
What were anything they may have been concerning to you
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or something that kind of may have turned you on
made you more optimistic.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I think to me the biggest thing was again just
hearing players, because I've been hearing this from kids that
are players that have been committing to play for Kentucky
about the culture change, and to hear three current players
echoing the same words as I told you last week
or a week before. Either somebody's doing a great job
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of selling that message and making sure everybody is saying
the exact thing, or there has been some kind of
metamorphous in that UK locker room that things are that
different from last year. Even though it's kind of hard
to tell when you cut over half your team is new,
it's kind of hard for them to really, I think
you even be able to talk about what last year
was like unless it's the guys like these three that
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were at the SEC media days or a type riot
or something like that that went through it. So again,
just hear the three players that alex Ifari, Jordan loved
and Josh Cattis talk about again the difference in the culture,
how they think that's going to make a difference. Everybody
seems to be doing the right things now and all.
That's really good to hear. It does make you wonder
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what the hell was going on last year that was
that bad that everybody's wanted to emphasize how good it
is this year. So again, but still put me in
that got to see it to believe it category.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I will tell you this, Larry.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
But on Wednesday night, I do a podcast with former
UK player Van Housen. We've had, we've had, we had
joqu Liz Jones on there, and it was kind of
so basically what you asking it was kind of asked
to him that if something's not going on right in
the locker room, I guess it's a business model. One
on one, somebody needs to stand up and do something,
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whether it be the head coach, whether it be the
floor manager, if you're talking about business, or visit a teammate.
And I spoke about this for a couple of weeks ago,
Marlon McCree, just Nettecker, not even Willie Gary really had
no problem with getting in someone's face if the defense
wasn't doing anything or wasn't doing they were supposed to
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be doing. Any player on the defense, you know who,
used to get torn up a whole lot. And just
because I can share this information because I was there
and I maybe hopefully no one gets upset. Just Needecker
used to get in James Whalen's tail, not as senior
because James Whalen was All American as a senior, but
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before that, James Waiting didn't always do the things he
was supposed to do. And this is not a knock,
just why I didn't always do the things I was
supposed to do. But jess Netteger would get in because
he was a tight end and Jeff was a linebacker.
So they went against each other quite frequently. Me and
Marlon McRee went against each other quite frequently. But to
hold your players that are going to be instrumental in
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your success, to hold them accountable as something huge. And
so when we asked about some of the things that
were going on in the past couple of years, I
think John Quibs was on there before this past season started,
so he was on there from last year, twenty twenty
three season, and I asked him. He was like, yeah, man,
there's dissension in the locker room. And I've told you
this off the air and never really had to speak
on my own air, And I really don't have a
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solution that Mark Stupen's probably doesn't won't be talking about it,
probably didn't want jock talk. But there was that case,
and then you get a four and eight season following
after a former player told us that there was no
accountability in the locker room, and I asked him, now,
mind you, he was a tranfer, so why you know,
why can't you just jump this one's tail? And it's
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different if you haven't played with these guys three or
four years, it's different if you transfer in. It's hard
for you to put the hammer down because you don't
have that great relationship with these guys.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
But Jock said that.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
If he got into another or any him and uh
square of those guys got into the other player's stuff,
that the coaches would get upset.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
And they didn't like that.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
And I was upset with that, and I didn't think
that was a great culture to have, and I didn't
think that was a great thing to do.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
But I think that's kind of what led to the
four and eight.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
And that's why when I listen to Mark stops talks
now and you hear all the players talking about now
holding players accountable, knowing what they're supposed to do, and
I guess, even just I guess even communicating, that's another
thing term they use a lot, Larry Vaughnam, and if
I'm not if I'm not wrong, that they keep talking
a lot about communicating with each other. And I'm thinking,
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to myself, how do you not communicate? Which with each
other is big A fifty three and a half fifty
three and a third field wide.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
One corner can't see the other corner.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
So there takes communication from a lot of different people
to get anything communicated. But Larry, we have to take
a break, so I'll let you respond to that when
we come back. You're listening to Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning
Sports Talk on news Radio six thirty WLAP.
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Speaker 1 (19:29):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony
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GBT bus heads like they did on Friday. Yeah, Friday evening,
nine o'clock. It was pretty late, but the Blues Brothers
were Blues Brothers were there. We will get a little
bit more of that information after that. But Larry, before
we went to break, we were kind of talking about
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Mark Stoops, the program, the culture of the program. Change
is possibly made, and I said, I've talked to some more.
I've talked a lot of former players, but some of
the questions I had it was baffling to me and
as I told you one of the former linebackers that,
and he also told me that his linebacker mate would
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also join the show and confirm the things he was
telling me, because I didn't find those things to be believable.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
A guy from.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Youngstown, tough, gritty, blue collar guy coaching a bunch of guys,
and do not allow him to knuckle up. You do know,
I don't even know if you know this story. And
I'm gonna let you speak eventually, since Jack ain't here,
I'm gonna do all the talking.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Since you.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Do know the story that tied end in a line
backer got into a fight back in ninety six or
ninety five, and now I'm talking about they were throwing fisticuffs, hammlets,
throwing helmets around everyone. Everybody's trying to break them up.
Bill Curry jumps right in the middle of it and
starts pulling the tight end back because I think he
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thought he was the most dangerous out of Paduca Tillman.
Bill Curry emerges from that pile of people with a
bloody nose and just kind of like, all right, blues
a whistle, let's get back to practice. Point being is
I think coaches appreciate a good fight. I think that
if the tempo and the energy is an aggression is
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on point, I think there may be a good fight.
You also know that maybe or not because you're good
friends with Tony Franklin, that maybe have money produce some fights.
But the idea that in the past that the coaches
didn't believe any players showing aggression against each other or
allowing them to hold their teammates accountable, does that make
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you scratch your head? Is that something or is that
something you just expect from Mark Stoops and the staff,
or just something you expect from the culture of Kentucky football.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I think it's more something that I expect in today's world,
whether it's high school, of college or whatever. I just
think a lot of things are different now, and that's
one of the things that is different. I'll bow down
to your expertise on that on whether it should be
or not be, But I think a lot of it's
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just the way that the game has changed on all
levels right now with guys that sometimes the passion in
different ways like when you played and since then maybe
didn't always quite get displayed as much today, And maybe
coaches are worried there is more scrutiny. I don't know,
but I think it's a definite trend. I think it's
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probably not just a Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
But do you think it's alarming that if you've reported
on it some and I'm sure a lot of people
have told you, well, last year and they said, and
it's kind of crazy. I would say that at CC
media Day that there's been some people who said, well,
last year, we kind of gave up, Like who doesn't.
And that's why I say the passion in the aggression
needs to be met, and that is why you practice,
Larry Vat you practice at a certain level.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
I've told you for years you can never emulate the.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Consistency and the effort it takes play in and play
out in practice. Like you're never going to run as
hard as you are if you're trying to stop somebody
from scoring. You're never going to run as hard as
you can when you're trying to score in practice, because
you know it's not reality. But if the game is
on the line, so you can't do that play after play,
I mean, you're gonna run as hard as you can,
but you are not going to run with the passion
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of this do or die practice is just you know,
address rehearsal, so that that is kind of why I
do think a lot of times you have to hold
players accountable and you got to be aggressive, and you
got to show passion during practice because I want to
know who's gonna who's gonna give up in the middle
of the game. I want to know who's gonna give
up if we're down twenty points, are you are you
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gonna check out or are you gonna figure? Okay, look
we need if we get an interception for a touchdown
on sidekick and you start doing mathematics on how you
probably can get back into the game. That's how we
were in high school. Now, we didn't lose a heck
of a lot of games, but we never gave up
until the clock was over, and that was just something
we took them when I did get to college. Yeah,
I do know if there were some people who found
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felt it was okay to lose, I always I'm gonna
tell them a sword loser as it is. But just
the whole idea of not aligning the person you lined
up next to to punch the other one in the
mouth if he's not doing what he's supposed to do.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Or actually just get it, just get a dust up.
That it's just odd.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
And I know that the culture is different nowadays, but
isn't The principle of the game and the purpose of
the game is still the say Larry.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
What it is. But times are just different. I mean,
it's just a different things that go on right now.
And again, you hear coaches or I seem to coaches
all across the country talk about a lot of the
same type things. And again, like I said, a couple
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of weeks so entire Wright told me that he felt
like that one going into last year, a lot of
guys felt like all they had do was just go
out there and they were gonna win. And then when
they didn't win, and so I was gonna be kind
of tough, they did just kind of give up. Yeah,
that's kind of shocking. But again, I'm not sure with
all that goes on in college athletics today that there's
probably not a lot more of that that goes on
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than what we see or what we know about. And
it's just different that I don't think all players today
had the same passion for the game that you did, Anthony.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
That could be the case, like I said, I'm just
never I'm just a sore loser, so I try not
to lose because you probably never.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Know you didn't have a paycheck to go home kind
of console yourself too, either.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yeah, And do you think that is the problem with
the fan base or or I guess just the supporters that,
like I said, you want to see the passion, And
like I said, he from Youngstown. So I don't think
you ever stop blue collar guy from Youngstown. I don't
think you really ever stopped growing or or pushing. I
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don't care how big your paycheck is, because if you've
got a nine point whatever or ten million dollar paycheck,
don't you push for twelve or fifteen million dollar paycheck?
Speaker 2 (26:34):
I think some do. I don't think we all do.
And I mean because I think sometimes you can get
comfortable on what you've got going on. And I just
think that sometimes that it's not that you maybe don't
care if you win or lose. It's just that maybe
losing doesn't eat at you like what it used to
years ago, because now you're compensated, or just a culture say,
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I mean I see it even on the high school
level with players I don't think are being compensated that
everybody wants to win, but if they lose, not everybody
lays awake online thinking about it like you used to.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Yeah, I can get that some things I could get
behind them, Mark Stoop said, and a lot of the
defensive players. Obviously we took two defensive players one offensive
player to SEC media Day. But the one thing was
that our defense. Some people thought the defense gave up.
I can't really say the defense gave up because they
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were putting compromise positions a whole lot of times. But
I do think there's a new energy on the defense,
and the defense knows that if they got to pitch shutouts,
like I told you last year, I expect them to
pitch shutouts. In the first four weeks of the season,
they pretty much showed you what I told you they
were going to do. I think at a certain point
there was dissension between both locker rooms where the defense
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probably felt like we gotta work too hard for the
could be coming out with these loss that you guys
need to help us out, and I think, well, Bush
Hamdy coming back for the second year, Mark Stuke, this
is a little bit more. I think the defense is
more motivated because you know, Bush is getting his second year,
and Bush actually has some players has been at the
quarterback room, has been on the roster eat the running
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back room as well, has been on the roster for
more than one year, although they're trying to use new parts.
Are you sold on the fact Bush Hamley getting the
second year or do you still think that our offense
is what it is a lot of people but a
lot of people seem to be motivated that Bush is
coming back for a second year.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I don't think there's no way it can hurt anything
as a continuity there at the coordinator position. So I mean,
I didn't follow Bush for what well last year. I
think Bush obviously knows what he's doing. You just got
to have the right personnel and things. And then over
the course of Mark Stoops's career, there's been a lot
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of offensive coordinators come and go, So I think again,
I've never really known for sure how much total control
of the offensive had, how much help suggestions he's getting
from the head coach, which is not an unusual thing
at any school. But yeah, I think having Bush back
can only help those guys. Uh. And I think the
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players that I've talked to all seem to want to
Bush back, and that's usually what I go by. That
the players are saying, yeah, we want him back, and
that means they they're confident in him and don't think
he's the problem.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
That you know, it's not a problem becoming a father.
And I haven't been a father, but I have been
fathered a lot of people. Larry boy, you have been
a father. And you know who else has been a father?
Our man, Jack Pilgrim, Jack Pilgrim. I was concerned about you.
I know, Miles being brought into the world may have
taken a little steam out of you. I figured it
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might have invigorated you. And you know you didn't join
us this morning. So I'm glad, glad that you could
join us.
Speaker 7 (29:55):
Bud, I'm speechless. It has been one of a journey,
was tom Bo. Miles was two weeks early. We were
for in August, in August second arrival, and he decided
to surprise us on July eighteenth. While I was so
I arrived at Peach Jam Wednesday at.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
Like two o'clock by two.
Speaker 7 (30:19):
By Thursday, at two o'clock, I was back in the
car after Mark Pope told me to why in the
world was I still talking to him, I needed to
get in the car and get back to Shelbyville. So
by four fifteen the next morning, I had a brand
new baby. So yeah, we're we got got home from
the hospital last night and it was you know, interesting
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first night with two babies in the house and under
the same roof and trying to figure all that stuff out.
But yeah, needless to say, we're scrambling and running on fumes.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I'm assuming and from everything I see and have read
at Miles is healthy, healthy young boys. There's a healthy
young boy and everything's going well so far.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
Oh yeah, he's doing great. Mom's doing great.
Speaker 7 (31:08):
You know, she's very happy to not be running chasing
a toddler around the house with you know, nine eight
I guess eight and a half month pregnant belly and
you know, kind of that has been exhausting, and she's
been fatigued and sore and all the things. So I
think she's found some new life where you know, she
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can kind of co parent with both of the kids
and you know, having you know, it's just it's been different,
but it's been it's been nice.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
So yeah, where she's a baby's doing great.
Speaker 7 (31:41):
Billy has been very weird about this. He's not totally
loved the idea of somebody else.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Invading his space.
Speaker 7 (31:47):
And you know he's been you know, the way we
introduced him at the hospital. He was great with the
high brother high miles for to start with, and we said,
you want to hold him? No no, no, no, bye
bye bye bye bye.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Just I'm cool with looking and seeing, but beyond that.
Speaker 7 (32:07):
You know, get him away from me. So we're getting there. Well,
we'll we'll make some progress.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
And was the second time easier? Are you are you
a veteran at it or is it still the same
the same as a first night?
Speaker 7 (32:22):
Well, the the whole process was just a whole unbelievable,
just whiplash of emotions and stuff.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
So the you know, getting to the.
Speaker 7 (32:32):
Hospital all that, you know, it takes away the nerves
and the stress and all that when you've already done
it before. And uh so that part was was a
whole heck of a lot easier. But Billy's labor process
we were in the hospital from like eight am to
like midnight, was was the it was gonna took up
a whole day with new little man.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
We got to the hospital.
Speaker 7 (32:53):
So just how crazy this story is I pulled in
the driveway at my Katie's parents' house. She was staying
there while I was down at Peach Jam for the
twenty four hours I was there.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
I pulled into the.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
Driveway at twelve fifteen, you know, put down my stuff, brush,
my teeth got in bed, and as that all unfolded,
her water broke. So I was I was in the
house for fifteen minutes. I just just put my stuff down,
just my head literally just hit the pillow, and then
her water breaks and we go, well, all right, time
(33:27):
to go to the hospital. We go there and the
baby is, you know, born four hours later, so just
an absolute whirl when she pushed for five minutes. So
once it came, it was just it was he was
ready to get the heck out of there. So we're
grateful for you know how safe and healthy and all
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that stuff. But man, the timeliness was was quite the
quite the whiplash for sure.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Jack, congratulations. What's going to be funny down the road
in the future is when you have this conversation with
Miles and you say, you know, the scheduling of all this.
You were two weeks early. I was in Georgia and
I had to come back. Mark Pope told me to
come back home. You caused us a little bit of
trouble being two weeks early, because you know what, every
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father has a set of parents. They all have some
kind of adventure or something's going on, Like my dad
stopped at Arby's when my mom was having me, and
my mom still holds a grudge against my dad stopping
at Arby's before he took her to the hospital. So
I can only imagine how entertaining this story will be
with miles down the road.
Speaker 7 (34:38):
So what was funny is when I was down at Phjam,
Katie was taking a nap and you know, had a
massive contraction and usually, you know, she'd had kind.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Of the they're.
Speaker 7 (34:51):
Called Brax and Hicks contractions where it's kind of, you know,
slight pressure and you kind of feel, you know, but
they're not real like labor contractions. And she felt what
she thought was for the first time, a labor contraction,
and you know, there's a sign of if you can
sleep through it, it's usually not a real labor one.
She couldn't sleep through that one. So that was our
first uh, oh, maybe this is this is happening. So
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she you know, texted me that and was like, hey,
you may want to head to the car, or at
least start thinking about heading to the car, And you know,
I was like, well, it's you know, an eight hour
drive back home, so you know, if we're going to
do this, we better be pretty darn sure. So let's
give it just a minute. Let's, you know, see how
things go over the next you know, a couple of
minutes maybe, and just just see, let's just make you know,
(35:37):
not rush to us, you know, any assumptions and all that.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
And then they were kind of just more consistent, and
it was like, Okay, well maybe this is a real thing.
Speaker 7 (35:45):
And you know, I hadn't gotten to say hi to
Pope yet and he had just gotten there a couple
hours before, so you know, I was just kind of.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
A small icebreaker.
Speaker 7 (35:53):
Went up to him and I said, all right, Pope,
I need an expert opinion coming from somebody who's had
four baby girls, and I need your honest judgment on
when I need to get the heck in the car
and get home. And that's when he did, why are
you still talking to me? You need to be on
the road right now. And then so that video that
he recorded was totally on him. I didn't ask for
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him to do that. He said record this for me,
and so that was just totally on Pope to record
that and wanted me to send it to Katie more
than anything. Kick me out of the gym so I
could get home and see that baby. So yeah, it's
just a crazy, crazy, crazy turn of events that. Yeah,
I could definitely credit Mark Pope for getting me back
in town in time to see the birth of my
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second baby.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
That is Jack Pilgrim.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
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Speaker 1 (37:00):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talking Anthony White
along with Jack Pilgrim and Larry Vaught. Let's get to
the big ass hands hotline really quickly and see what
John Short has to say. Good morning, John Shirt, what
do you got for us?
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Well, I know it's yell gray Americans and I believe
we have a still thing, have our standing football season
this year, and then we're gonna win today against at
Auburn lumnaeteen.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Today in basketball.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
At two thirty, we whipped up on Strolls or who
were those guys? Were we whipped up on them?
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (37:32):
And it's gon be on.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
Hossports one or two today.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
It looks like it's on regular Fox, right or is
that Fox won both Regular Fox at two thirty be on.
Speaker 5 (37:46):
Campbell seven n.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
I guess I don't know, are you yes? Fox fifty six,
you're absolutely right, and well we'll win the game too,
will win the game two.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Friday, we should whoop up on John Short, but we
have to head to a break because we gotta pay
Bill John Shot. This show doesn't run itself. We appreciate
your call, and I'm with you with the number one
seed and we're gonna rally this thing all the way
to the championship and win the championship. We'll be back
after this year. And listening to Stockyards Bank Sunday morning
sports talk on news radio six thirty WLAP
Welcome in Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony
White along with Larry Vaught, coming to you from Clark's
Main Street Market studios in downtown Lexington, Kentucky, and Larry Vaught.
I said, Anthony White and Larry Vapp Because Jack Pilgrim
may still have baby hangover. We typically have a conversation
(00:27):
when he's not gonna be on, so I'm not certain
he's not gonna be on. But he's entered fatherhood for
the second time this week, so we're gonna give him
a little grace.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Because I can tell you he's not sleeping. I feel
pretty confident of that, unless he just went to sleep
for something like that, because those new ones they don't.
Let's just sleep a whole lot early, And I'm pretty
sure Dad usually gets that duty, which is ununderstandable. So
but congratulations Jack, sound like he had quite a weekend.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
But so you're saying he's not sleeping. Don't you just
get sleep whenever you can?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
You do, but you don't get much. You learn to
survive without a whole lot of sleep.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
And secondly, Larry Vaught, he's done this before, so shouldn't
he be at least a novice.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
That is, he's not a rookie anymore.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
And now it's just twice as hard now because now
you got to worry. The only time you get to
sleep is if both of them are asleep at the
same time, and that never happens.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Well, that is good. How was your week, Larry Vaught?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Well, my week was good. I got to watch my
youngest grandson play in the middle school seven on seven
over eastern Kentucky with these teammates, and I always enjoy
the one and watching him and then my buddy Tim
estes I've had. I don't know if I mentioned last
week that I had the ground hog and raccoon trouble
in my yard and we trapped the raccoon Friday night.
(01:58):
But the groundhog, I think got smart of this last
night because he took the food. But the trap didn't
go off, so I gotta go back at it tonight.
But Tim took the raccoon let him out in the
middle of Lincoln County somewhere, so we got one down,
one still to go.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I always wondered, I'm not from the country, and I
know years ago we used to do a segment of
the show that we gave like household and domestic advice
on repairs, I guess DYI and just around the house things.
And I'm also in Twinsburg Heights. Pretty country. It's really
(02:33):
not Cleveland. I consider I say Cleveland, but it's really
not Cleveland. And the animals typically get into the animal
trap and they get whatever they want out of there,
and the trap has been yours. You're saying the trap
did not go off. Our traps will go off, but
the food will be gone and the animal will be two.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, the food is gone. And like when we got
the raccoon Friday night, which my grandson was part of this,
and I think he placed the honey bun better than
Tim and I placed it without him last night might
have been the problem, but the raccoon dug all the
grass up underneath the caves trying to find a way
out of there, but couldn't. So we'll see what happens tonight.
(03:18):
We're gona make a few changes, and hopefully. I'm sure
the groundhog is going to come back because he's been
visiting my garden every night for two weeks, so I
can't imagine it's going to change his routine now that
he got a honeybun on top of it for a
little bonus. So we'll try it again tonight. But I
did find out when I called the animal control something
I didn't know, Like, if you have a raccoon or
(03:39):
a groundhog or a skunk or something in your house,
he'll come get it and trap it and remove it
for you. But if it's in your yard, they won't.
And I said, well, wouldn't it make sense if you
came and got it, Why it's in my yard, it
wouldn't get my house if we both be happier. But
apparently that's not the way it works.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
You said they'll come and get it, you mean free, I'm.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Assuming Yeah, yeah, they'll come and help you, help you
solve your propert if it's actually.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
In your house, and if it's outside, they will. There
are people that will come and get it, but you
have to pay handsomely.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Okay, So I've got my buddy. Tim asked, he's a
big game hunter, so he found he got knew somebody
that had a trap, and we said it and worked.
We we helped the raccoon in less than two hours
Friday night. Wow, pretty swaggy. Thinking we were we might
go into business but I guess the groundhog brought us
down to earth last night.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Careful who you call about removing critters from your house
and yard, because this happened to me a couple of
months ago where I had a raccoon in my attic
and I called somebody to find out how much it
would cost, and the guy told me, well, it's going
to cost three hundred dollars for me to come out,
and Wow, do an estimate. See if I can find
the raccoon. I said, dude, there's a raccoon in my attic.
(04:55):
I'm just saving myself three hundred dollars by telling you this.
He didn't like that. He hung out on me. It
was like, well, he's not gonna get my business, so
I took care of it myself.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Well, so if I can't, if we don't have any
like I made to bring bow down, then call me.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I'll get rid of him.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Larry, Uh, I didn't realize Tim was. Tim is a
man of many of many tools. He has a lot
of things. I didn't know that Tim was a big
game hunter or small game hunter any type.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I didn't know he was a hunter him.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
He has a lot of talents and he sometimes kind
of gets me into things like when he had me, well,
we cured a country Ham with the four Rahers over
Lincoln County a couple of years ago and gave me
a look at country Ham. I never really country Ham
again after helping cure what just ruined me on that?
But Tim's got a lot of talents.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah, well, we appreciate Tim. I like Tom.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
He text us during the show sometimes and it brings
a smile to my face. So Tim, thanks for helping
out my man Larry, Larry Vaughugh. We have a pretty
good show today. We have Brittany Harris coming on at
ten thirty and Lincoln Watkins tighty end out of Michigan,
UK commit at eleven fifteen.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Right.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Correct, And I think folks will really enjoy him. And
I don't know whether I bow and I may not
even get to talk to him because I knew the
first time and I talked to him and he said
his whole focus on the football field was moving the
chains and getting those first downs. I thought, well, when
we get him on with Anthony, I don't know where
this conversation is going because Anthony White has preached this
for since I've ever known him. So I said, Anthony
(06:38):
and Lincoln made us spend the whole time talk about
the importance of first downs this.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And we're going to get into SEC Media Day was
this week, and I've kind of changed my stance a
little bit. I think Mark Stude finally he has spoke,
could be coach speak, but I kind of like some
of the things he said, and I can get behind
some of them. But Larry Vaught, does it not? Do
you have to be a genius to realize if you
keep picking up first down You do know, Larry Vaught,
(07:06):
if you keep picking up first downs, that the offense
stays on the field, the defense doesn't come on the field,
and you are progressing toward the ultimate goal of getting
to the end zone. If you don't pick up first downs,
you got to go sit on the bench. So I
don't know why that sounds so genius that pick up
first downs, Larry Vuck.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Well, I was always kind of like the Craig Geese
philosophy too, though, if you just throw it to him
in the end zone, it'll get you to touchdown and
you get on off the field.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Now, I mean that is absolutely the case. I'm saying
the first goal and this is I break it. I'm
gonna break it down more minutely. The first goal is
to pick up the first Once you pick up the
first down, Larry, you don't have to lay down on
you don't have to run out of bounds. You could
go all the way to the end zone if you
want to. The first goal is to pick up the
first down. Here's here's some profound Larry Vuck. If you
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are a football player and your goal is to pick
up a first down, so now you let the officer's
coordinators say, bush Hampden. We just pick any office of
coordinat out of there. You a guy like bush Hampden.
You want bush Hampden to say, well, it is third
and seven, It is third and eight, It is third
and three, it is third and five. What play can
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we call? What personnel do you want to use it?
You know who always wants to be in that personnel
when it's third and something. You know what person always
wants to be in the personnel when a coach is
trying to figure out how we have to keep moving
the change. You don't have to give me a specific person,
but say Larry Vaught Junior was a football player who
wants to be in that personnel.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Grouping everybody right you, So you.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Make your skill sets where you can block, you make
your skill sets where you can run, catch, whatever you
have to do to be on the field. But the
point is, when you have the personnel that can be
on the field to move the change. You can be
on the field for four downs. You could be on
the field for three downs. You could be just like
a first down. You could be a third They call
them third down backs. I don't believe in being a
third down back. I believe been every down back. But
(09:02):
point being is, I think it all starts with the
mindset of I'm going to do whatever I can do
that when we need to move the chains, coach has
to have me on the field, the quarterback has to
have me on the field, and the team appreciations me be.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
On the field.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
So you're right, Me and Lincoln may just talk this
type of football all show long, But to me, you
make it sound like it's a profound thing, like wow,
that's neat that you believe that you need to get
first downs. But everybody who watches football understands the goal
of it. Why do you think they have those those
markers ten yards apart. They just have them their free
show or to pay somebody to move just so they
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can be on TV when somebody runs out of bounds.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Okay, I just wanted my bet.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
What was your bet?
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I bet a friend of mine that I could tweak
you and get you going on first downs in the
first fifteen minutes of the show today. So it worked.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Well, I mean it's just kind of said a passion.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I don't disagree with you. I just like to have
a little fun with you on that. I know how
much you believe in that, and I always and how
frustrating it gets to you sometimes where you don't just
think about this moving the chains on that third down
play instead of going d for something like that. So
I knew that would get you on, but link it
just reminds me a lot of talking to you when
I talk to him about that, which is unusual when
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you're talking to a high school senior.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
And I don't want Lincoln to get I don't want
him to get frustrated or get concerned by my passion
for it. Because Larry Vasz, they pay people, they actually
pay people to hold those ten yard chains. They pay
people to do that. Larry vaugh And if you ever
go you said your grandson plays seven or seven and
I'm sure you watched them play middle school football and
(10:39):
things like that. If you do not have anybody to
hold those ten yard chains, they will not even start
the game, Larry, they don't even start the game. If
you have like, Okay, nobody really wants to do it
because you got kids. You want to sit there and
watch them. And it really kind of takes consistency where
you can't pay attention to the game.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
You got to be dedicated to it.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
What if you don't want to stay the whole game,
but they will not even start the game. If you
don't have somebody to show you those ten yards, you
got to get every play, Larry Vat.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
You're right. And Lincoln last year had seventy eight touches
and seventy two of them went for first downs.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Anthony, that's my man. See.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
See, if you don't believe in Mark Stoops right now,
just don't believe in them, because we're doing all the
right things. I ain't got a whole lot of faith
in this year, but I do got a whole lot
of faith and Mark Stoops and this staff. So I'm
getting on the band wagon, Larry for I think I'm
gonna real you in a little bit. I think I'm
gonna make you a little bit more optimistic about this season.
(11:36):
I know, you know, he still has to show us
him and the staff still has to show us there's things.
Bush is returning for a second year. I don't know
the last time we had an offensive coordinator return for
a second year. But he's returning for a second year,
so we're gonna give him a chance. Bo went to
TBT like familiarly. Well, I ain't gonna say bow. Somebody
who looked like Bo was that TBT. So we're gonna
(11:59):
get in to a little bit of that. We got
UK recruits coming on. Stay tuned because we're gonna put
you on a football band wagon.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
We'll be back after this year.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
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Speaker 1 (12:21):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I am
Anthony White along with Larry Vaught and Daddy Jack is out.
Daddy he may be sleeping. Larry Vaught said, he's probably
taking cat naps whatever. Babies don't let you sleep. So
congratulations to Jack Pilgrim. He's not with us this morning,
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but who is with us is Stockyards Bank and they
have been with us since nineteen oh fair nineteen oh four,
Larry Vaught, Stockyards Bank, we started the show, you would
know they have been. They've been our trust departner FO
one hundred and one years, one hundred and twenty one years.
(13:03):
Am I right under twenty four years? One years under
twenty one years? Larry Vatt that we did have a
sec media day last week past week, and uh, there's
some things that Mark Stup's discussed, and I kind of
like some of the words.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
He hasn't spoken for a while about our team.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
I do know because I'm friends with and I do
I am kind of close to some of the people
on the staff, and I keep an eye on some
of those things. Nothing has really turned turned my face
to the point where I was concerned and the silence
really didn't concern me. It just didn't sell me. But
now you know, listen to Mark stue speak. It's somewhat
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coach speak, but it's somewhat reality. I don't think we're
you know, we're we're being blown smoke about. But I
do think we have a tough schedule. I think we
have a hill to climb. But Mark Steus understands that,
and he understood still when he came here there was
a hell he had a climb two and ten team.
It's hard to turn around, especially in this conference. But
(14:06):
speaking on their media day, Mark Stoops spoke about a
lot of things. What was something concerning what parts of
it was concerning Mark Stoops or any of the players
Afari or any of the other players that spoke at
What were anything they may have been concerning to you
(14:26):
or something that kind of may have turned you on
made you more optimistic.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I think to me the biggest thing was again just
hearing players, because I've been hearing this from kids that
are players that have been committing to play for Kentucky
about the culture change, and to hear three current players
echoing the same words as I told you last week
or a week before. Either somebody's doing a great job
(14:56):
of selling that message and making sure everybody is saying
the exact thing, or there has been some kind of
metamorphous in that UK locker room that things are that
different from last year. Even though it's kind of hard
to tell when you cut over half your team is new,
it's kind of hard for them to really, I think
you even be able to talk about what last year
was like unless it's the guys like these three that
(15:18):
were at the SEC media days or a type riot
or something like that that went through it. So again,
just hear the three players that alex Ifari, Jordan loved
and Josh Cattis talk about again the difference in the culture,
how they think that's going to make a difference. Everybody
seems to be doing the right things now and all.
That's really good to hear. It does make you wonder
(15:38):
what the hell was going on last year that was
that bad that everybody's wanted to emphasize how good it
is this year. So again, but still put me in
that got to see it to believe it category.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I will tell you this, Larry.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
But on Wednesday night, I do a podcast with former
UK player Van Housen. We've had, we've had, we had
joqu Liz Jones on there, and it was kind of
so basically what you asking it was kind of asked
to him that if something's not going on right in
the locker room, I guess it's a business model. One
on one, somebody needs to stand up and do something,
(16:14):
whether it be the head coach, whether it be the
floor manager, if you're talking about business, or visit a teammate.
And I spoke about this for a couple of weeks ago,
Marlon McCree, just Nettecker, not even Willie Gary really had
no problem with getting in someone's face if the defense
wasn't doing anything or wasn't doing they were supposed to
(16:34):
be doing. Any player on the defense, you know who,
used to get torn up a whole lot. And just
because I can share this information because I was there
and I maybe hopefully no one gets upset. Just Needecker
used to get in James Whalen's tail, not as senior
because James Whalen was All American as a senior, but
(16:55):
before that, James Waiting didn't always do the things he
was supposed to do. And this is not a knock,
just why I didn't always do the things I was
supposed to do. But jess Netteger would get in because
he was a tight end and Jeff was a linebacker.
So they went against each other quite frequently. Me and
Marlon McRee went against each other quite frequently. But to
hold your players that are going to be instrumental in
(17:18):
your success, to hold them accountable as something huge. And
so when we asked about some of the things that
were going on in the past couple of years, I
think John Quibs was on there before this past season started,
so he was on there from last year, twenty twenty
three season, and I asked him. He was like, yeah, man,
there's dissension in the locker room. And I've told you
this off the air and never really had to speak
on my own air, And I really don't have a
(17:40):
solution that Mark Stupen's probably doesn't won't be talking about it,
probably didn't want jock talk. But there was that case,
and then you get a four and eight season following
after a former player told us that there was no
accountability in the locker room, and I asked him, now,
mind you, he was a tranfer, so why you know,
why can't you just jump this one's tail? And it's
(18:01):
different if you haven't played with these guys three or
four years, it's different if you transfer in. It's hard
for you to put the hammer down because you don't
have that great relationship with these guys.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
But Jock said that.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
If he got into another or any him and uh
square of those guys got into the other player's stuff,
that the coaches would get upset.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
And they didn't like that.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
And I was upset with that, and I didn't think
that was a great culture to have, and I didn't
think that was a great thing to do.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
But I think that's kind of what led to the
four and eight.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
And that's why when I listen to Mark stops talks
now and you hear all the players talking about now
holding players accountable, knowing what they're supposed to do, and
I guess, even just I guess even communicating, that's another
thing term they use a lot, Larry Vaughnam, and if
I'm not if I'm not wrong, that they keep talking
a lot about communicating with each other. And I'm thinking,
(18:56):
to myself, how do you not communicate? Which with each
other is big A fifty three and a half fifty
three and a third field wide.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
One corner can't see the other corner.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
So there takes communication from a lot of different people
to get anything communicated. But Larry, we have to take
a break, so I'll let you respond to that when
we come back. You're listening to Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning
Sports Talk on news Radio six thirty WLAP.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
This is Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk, presented by
the lead Troop Bards Radio Network on six thirty WLAP.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony
White along with Larry Vach. This hour of Sunday Morning
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(19:50):
GBT bus heads like they did on Friday. Yeah, Friday evening,
nine o'clock. It was pretty late, but the Blues Brothers
were Blues Brothers were there. We will get a little
bit more of that information after that. But Larry, before
we went to break, we were kind of talking about
(20:10):
Mark Stoops, the program, the culture of the program. Change
is possibly made, and I said, I've talked to some more.
I've talked a lot of former players, but some of
the questions I had it was baffling to me and
as I told you one of the former linebackers that,
and he also told me that his linebacker mate would
(20:33):
also join the show and confirm the things he was
telling me, because I didn't find those things to be believable.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
A guy from.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Youngstown, tough, gritty, blue collar guy coaching a bunch of guys,
and do not allow him to knuckle up. You do know,
I don't even know if you know this story. And
I'm gonna let you speak eventually, since Jack ain't here,
I'm gonna do all the talking.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Since you.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Do know the story that tied end in a line
backer got into a fight back in ninety six or
ninety five, and now I'm talking about they were throwing fisticuffs, hammlets,
throwing helmets around everyone. Everybody's trying to break them up.
Bill Curry jumps right in the middle of it and
starts pulling the tight end back because I think he
(21:19):
thought he was the most dangerous out of Paduca Tillman.
Bill Curry emerges from that pile of people with a
bloody nose and just kind of like, all right, blues
a whistle, let's get back to practice. Point being is
I think coaches appreciate a good fight. I think that
if the tempo and the energy is an aggression is
(21:43):
on point, I think there may be a good fight.
You also know that maybe or not because you're good
friends with Tony Franklin, that maybe have money produce some fights.
But the idea that in the past that the coaches
didn't believe any players showing aggression against each other or
allowing them to hold their teammates accountable, does that make
(22:06):
you scratch your head? Is that something or is that
something you just expect from Mark Stoops and the staff,
or just something you expect from the culture of Kentucky football.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I think it's more something that I expect in today's world,
whether it's high school, of college or whatever. I just
think a lot of things are different now, and that's
one of the things that is different. I'll bow down
to your expertise on that on whether it should be
or not be, But I think a lot of it's
(22:37):
just the way that the game has changed on all
levels right now with guys that sometimes the passion in
different ways like when you played and since then maybe
didn't always quite get displayed as much today, And maybe
coaches are worried there is more scrutiny. I don't know,
but I think it's a definite trend. I think it's
(22:58):
probably not just a Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
But do you think it's alarming that if you've reported
on it some and I'm sure a lot of people
have told you, well, last year and they said, and
it's kind of crazy. I would say that at CC
media Day that there's been some people who said, well,
last year, we kind of gave up, Like who doesn't.
And that's why I say the passion in the aggression
needs to be met, and that is why you practice,
Larry Vat you practice at a certain level.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
I've told you for years you can never emulate the.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Consistency and the effort it takes play in and play
out in practice. Like you're never going to run as
hard as you are if you're trying to stop somebody
from scoring. You're never going to run as hard as
you can when you're trying to score in practice, because
you know it's not reality. But if the game is
on the line, so you can't do that play after play,
I mean, you're gonna run as hard as you can,
but you are not going to run with the passion
(23:53):
of this do or die practice is just you know,
address rehearsal, so that that is kind of why I
do think a lot of times you have to hold
players accountable and you got to be aggressive, and you
got to show passion during practice because I want to
know who's gonna who's gonna give up in the middle
of the game. I want to know who's gonna give
up if we're down twenty points, are you are you
(24:13):
gonna check out or are you gonna figure? Okay, look
we need if we get an interception for a touchdown
on sidekick and you start doing mathematics on how you
probably can get back into the game. That's how we
were in high school. Now, we didn't lose a heck
of a lot of games, but we never gave up
until the clock was over, and that was just something
we took them when I did get to college. Yeah,
I do know if there were some people who found
(24:35):
felt it was okay to lose, I always I'm gonna
tell them a sword loser as it is. But just
the whole idea of not aligning the person you lined
up next to to punch the other one in the
mouth if he's not doing what he's supposed to do.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Or actually just get it, just get a dust up.
That it's just odd.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
And I know that the culture is different nowadays, but
isn't The principle of the game and the purpose of
the game is still the say Larry.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
What it is. But times are just different. I mean,
it's just a different things that go on right now.
And again, you hear coaches or I seem to coaches
all across the country talk about a lot of the
same type things. And again, like I said, a couple
(25:21):
of weeks so entire Wright told me that he felt
like that one going into last year, a lot of
guys felt like all they had do was just go
out there and they were gonna win. And then when
they didn't win, and so I was gonna be kind
of tough, they did just kind of give up. Yeah,
that's kind of shocking. But again, I'm not sure with
all that goes on in college athletics today that there's
probably not a lot more of that that goes on
(25:42):
than what we see or what we know about. And
it's just different that I don't think all players today
had the same passion for the game that you did, Anthony.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
That could be the case, like I said, I'm just
never I'm just a sore loser, so I try not
to lose because you probably never.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Know you didn't have a paycheck to go home kind
of console yourself too, either.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yeah, And do you think that is the problem with
the fan base or or I guess just the supporters that,
like I said, you want to see the passion, And
like I said, he from Youngstown. So I don't think
you ever stop blue collar guy from Youngstown. I don't
think you really ever stopped growing or or pushing. I
(26:23):
don't care how big your paycheck is, because if you've
got a nine point whatever or ten million dollar paycheck,
don't you push for twelve or fifteen million dollar paycheck?
Speaker 2 (26:34):
I think some do. I don't think we all do.
And I mean because I think sometimes you can get
comfortable on what you've got going on. And I just
think that sometimes that it's not that you maybe don't
care if you win or lose. It's just that maybe
losing doesn't eat at you like what it used to
years ago, because now you're compensated, or just a culture say,
(26:54):
I mean I see it even on the high school
level with players I don't think are being compensated that
everybody wants to win, but if they lose, not everybody
lays awake online thinking about it like you used to.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Yeah, I can get that some things I could get
behind them, Mark Stoop said, and a lot of the
defensive players. Obviously we took two defensive players one offensive
player to SEC media Day. But the one thing was
that our defense. Some people thought the defense gave up.
I can't really say the defense gave up because they
(27:27):
were putting compromise positions a whole lot of times. But
I do think there's a new energy on the defense,
and the defense knows that if they got to pitch shutouts,
like I told you last year, I expect them to
pitch shutouts. In the first four weeks of the season,
they pretty much showed you what I told you they
were going to do. I think at a certain point
there was dissension between both locker rooms where the defense
(27:50):
probably felt like we gotta work too hard for the
could be coming out with these loss that you guys
need to help us out, and I think, well, Bush
Hamdy coming back for the second year, Mark Stuke, this
is a little bit more. I think the defense is
more motivated because you know, Bush is getting his second year,
and Bush actually has some players has been at the
quarterback room, has been on the roster eat the running
(28:11):
back room as well, has been on the roster for
more than one year, although they're trying to use new parts.
Are you sold on the fact Bush Hamley getting the
second year or do you still think that our offense
is what it is a lot of people but a
lot of people seem to be motivated that Bush is
coming back for a second year.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
I don't think there's no way it can hurt anything
as a continuity there at the coordinator position. So I mean,
I didn't follow Bush for what well last year. I
think Bush obviously knows what he's doing. You just got
to have the right personnel and things. And then over
the course of Mark Stoops's career, there's been a lot
(28:52):
of offensive coordinators come and go, So I think again,
I've never really known for sure how much total control
of the offensive had, how much help suggestions he's getting
from the head coach, which is not an unusual thing
at any school. But yeah, I think having Bush back
can only help those guys. Uh. And I think the
(29:13):
players that I've talked to all seem to want to
Bush back, and that's usually what I go by. That
the players are saying, yeah, we want him back, and
that means they they're confident in him and don't think
he's the problem.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
That you know, it's not a problem becoming a father.
And I haven't been a father, but I have been
fathered a lot of people. Larry boy, you have been
a father. And you know who else has been a father?
Our man, Jack Pilgrim, Jack Pilgrim. I was concerned about you.
I know, Miles being brought into the world may have
taken a little steam out of you. I figured it
(29:47):
might have invigorated you. And you know you didn't join
us this morning. So I'm glad, glad that you could
join us.
Speaker 7 (29:55):
Bud, I'm speechless. It has been one of a journey,
was tom Bo. Miles was two weeks early. We were
for in August, in August second arrival, and he decided
to surprise us on July eighteenth. While I was so
I arrived at Peach Jam Wednesday at.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
Like two o'clock by two.
Speaker 7 (30:19):
By Thursday, at two o'clock, I was back in the
car after Mark Pope told me to why in the
world was I still talking to him, I needed to
get in the car and get back to Shelbyville. So
by four fifteen the next morning, I had a brand
new baby. So yeah, we're we got got home from
the hospital last night and it was you know, interesting
(30:42):
first night with two babies in the house and under
the same roof and trying to figure all that stuff out.
But yeah, needless to say, we're scrambling and running on fumes.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I'm assuming and from everything I see and have read
at Miles is healthy, healthy young boys. There's a healthy
young boy and everything's going well so far.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
Oh yeah, he's doing great. Mom's doing great.
Speaker 7 (31:08):
You know, she's very happy to not be running chasing
a toddler around the house with you know, nine eight
I guess eight and a half month pregnant belly and
you know, kind of that has been exhausting, and she's
been fatigued and sore and all the things. So I
think she's found some new life where you know, she
(31:28):
can kind of co parent with both of the kids
and you know, having you know, it's just it's been different,
but it's been it's been nice.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
So yeah, where she's a baby's doing great.
Speaker 7 (31:41):
Billy has been very weird about this. He's not totally
loved the idea of somebody else.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Invading his space.
Speaker 7 (31:47):
And you know he's been you know, the way we
introduced him at the hospital. He was great with the
high brother high miles for to start with, and we said,
you want to hold him? No no, no, no, bye
bye bye bye bye.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Just I'm cool with looking and seeing, but beyond that.
Speaker 7 (32:07):
You know, get him away from me. So we're getting there. Well,
we'll we'll make some progress.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
And was the second time easier? Are you are you
a veteran at it or is it still the same
the same as a first night?
Speaker 7 (32:22):
Well, the the whole process was just a whole unbelievable,
just whiplash of emotions and stuff.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
So the you know, getting to the.
Speaker 7 (32:32):
Hospital all that, you know, it takes away the nerves
and the stress and all that when you've already done
it before. And uh so that part was was a
whole heck of a lot easier. But Billy's labor process
we were in the hospital from like eight am to
like midnight, was was the it was gonna took up
a whole day with new little man.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
We got to the hospital.
Speaker 7 (32:53):
So just how crazy this story is I pulled in
the driveway at my Katie's parents' house. She was staying
there while I was down at Peach Jam for the
twenty four hours I was there.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
I pulled into the.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
Driveway at twelve fifteen, you know, put down my stuff, brush,
my teeth got in bed, and as that all unfolded,
her water broke. So I was I was in the
house for fifteen minutes. I just just put my stuff down,
just my head literally just hit the pillow, and then
her water breaks and we go, well, all right, time
(33:27):
to go to the hospital. We go there and the
baby is, you know, born four hours later, so just
an absolute whirl when she pushed for five minutes. So
once it came, it was just it was he was
ready to get the heck out of there. So we're
grateful for you know how safe and healthy and all
(33:48):
that stuff. But man, the timeliness was was quite the
quite the whiplash for sure.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Jack, congratulations. What's going to be funny down the road
in the future is when you have this conversation with
Miles and you say, you know, the scheduling of all this.
You were two weeks early. I was in Georgia and
I had to come back. Mark Pope told me to
come back home. You caused us a little bit of
trouble being two weeks early, because you know what, every
(34:16):
father has a set of parents. They all have some
kind of adventure or something's going on, Like my dad
stopped at Arby's when my mom was having me, and
my mom still holds a grudge against my dad stopping
at Arby's before he took her to the hospital. So
I can only imagine how entertaining this story will be
with miles down the road.
Speaker 7 (34:38):
So what was funny is when I was down at Phjam,
Katie was taking a nap and you know, had a
massive contraction and usually, you know, she'd had kind.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Of the they're.
Speaker 7 (34:51):
Called Brax and Hicks contractions where it's kind of, you know,
slight pressure and you kind of feel, you know, but
they're not real like labor contractions. And she felt what
she thought was for the first time, a labor contraction,
and you know, there's a sign of if you can
sleep through it, it's usually not a real labor one.
She couldn't sleep through that one. So that was our
first uh, oh, maybe this is this is happening. So
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she you know, texted me that and was like, hey,
you may want to head to the car, or at
least start thinking about heading to the car, And you know,
I was like, well, it's you know, an eight hour
drive back home, so you know, if we're going to
do this, we better be pretty darn sure. So let's
give it just a minute. Let's, you know, see how
things go over the next you know, a couple of
minutes maybe, and just just see, let's just make you know,
(35:37):
not rush to us, you know, any assumptions and all that.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
And then they were kind of just more consistent, and
it was like, Okay, well maybe this is a real thing.
Speaker 7 (35:45):
And you know, I hadn't gotten to say hi to
Pope yet and he had just gotten there a couple
hours before, so you know, I was just kind of.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
A small icebreaker.
Speaker 7 (35:53):
Went up to him and I said, all right, Pope,
I need an expert opinion coming from somebody who's had
four baby girls, and I need your honest judgment on
when I need to get the heck in the car
and get home. And that's when he did, why are
you still talking to me? You need to be on
the road right now. And then so that video that
he recorded was totally on him. I didn't ask for
(36:14):
him to do that. He said record this for me,
and so that was just totally on Pope to record
that and wanted me to send it to Katie more
than anything. Kick me out of the gym so I
could get home and see that baby. So yeah, it's
just a crazy, crazy, crazy turn of events that. Yeah,
I could definitely credit Mark Pope for getting me back
in town in time to see the birth of my
(36:38):
second baby.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
That is Jack Pilgrim.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
If you've liked to join the show eight nine to
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Speaker 6 (36:50):
This is Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk presented by
the lead Troop Boorde Radio Network on six thirty WLAP.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talking Anthony White
along with Jack Pilgrim and Larry Vaught. Let's get to
the big ass hands hotline really quickly and see what
John Short has to say. Good morning, John Shirt, what
do you got for us?
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Well, I know it's yell gray Americans and I believe
we have a still thing, have our standing football season
this year, and then we're gonna win today against at
Auburn lumnaeteen.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Today in basketball.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
At two thirty, we whipped up on Strolls or who
were those guys? Were we whipped up on them?
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (37:32):
And it's gon be on.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
Hossports one or two today.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
It looks like it's on regular Fox, right or is
that Fox won both Regular Fox at two thirty be on.
Speaker 5 (37:46):
Campbell seven n.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
I guess I don't know, are you yes? Fox fifty six,
you're absolutely right, and well we'll win the game too,
will win the game two.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Friday, we should whoop up on John Short, but we
have to head to a break because we gotta pay
Bill John Shot. This show doesn't run itself. We appreciate
your call, and I'm with you with the number one
seed and we're gonna rally this thing all the way
to the championship and win the championship. We'll be back
after this year. And listening to Stockyards Bank Sunday morning
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.