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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk presented by
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony
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Twitter on our x feed. Todd Keeling says he's interested
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here we have to say about media days, which we
talked some media days with Mark Stuke's comments and the players,
he says, and I'm starting to be convinced a little bit.
I don't know why, because I think I can I
think I can recognize coach speak when I hear it.
And I said, we don't really get a visual or
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ocular proof of if the offense line is going to
be better if Zach comes out as with it what
he said, he's gonna with that. He's been named the starter,
which Mark Stoops, as Media Day said he wasn't named
the starter, but Todd Keeling said he's he kind of
senses that Mark stoops are showing some determination to prove
everybody wrong right now, like to to get back in
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to get his respect back. Are you starting to sense
that or you are? You still remain everything's remaining to
be seeing you not buying or drinking any type of
kool aid.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Well, I would hope he's intended all doing that, because
you certainly ought to after you go four and eight
and you're picked fifteenth in the SEC. I wouldn't think
you'll be petting yourself on the back saying, man, everybody
thinks I'm pretty pretty good. I mean, would you ought
to be motivated to try to prove people wrong? And
if you're not, then you should have just left, will
be my opinion on that. So I don't buy a
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whole lot into that, because when you kind of go
down and hit the bottom, you ought to be really,
really motivated to get out of that spot. So yeah,
I would, I would certainly think that that auto the case.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Yes, And I.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Think more of mine is you saying, and a lot
of people are saying, I don't know if foreign eat
is the worst thing that can happen to us. I
think he set the bar so high everybody looks a
foreignate is terrible and a win an oh miss down
in Oxford is has not nothing to turn your nose
up at. And taking Georgia to the to the wire.
It is where the wheels fell off and we stopped
seeming motivated and the players started not caring. Is where
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things went bad. But imagine they cared all season, and
it has some mental toughness. So I kind of hear
what he's saying. I think he kind of let his
foot off the gas. And a lot of things you've reported,
you know, talking to the players that the players kind
of feel like they let their foot off the gas.
Why that would happen? How could that happen? I really
don't know and cannot pinpoint why that would be acceptable.
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Who would say, let me take because other people can
get hurt. I told you that there's eleven players on
the field. If one player takes the playoff, you can
get your teammate hurt. So that's why you really don't
give up, especially in the team sport like that. Maybe
in basketball you can sand bag and snowbird and I
come up the court and play defense or vice versas,
like the little young ball used to do in high school.
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But in football, all eleven players have to be engaged
or someone could possibly get hurt. So I don't understand
the idea that we took our foot off the gas,
Why we did it, how we did it, what was
the purpose in doing it? Who allowed you to do it?
But I do since a little bit that stupents know
that he should have or probably could have done more,
and I think he's going to do it.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
You agree with me or not, well, I would hope,
So I'm not going to agree until we see what happens.
You asked me again if to play Toledo and O miss,
and then I'll see what kind of answer I have
for you. Then I think I just got to see
to believe, because again, preseason posed don't mean a lot.
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But when you're picked fifteenth in the SEC and the
only player you have on any of the all of
the three all SEC preseason teams is your punitized for
second second team, you've got a lot to prove.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
So last year, having a lot of people on a
preseason in NFL draft boards, that meant that meant anything
to you, because you can't have both ways, Larry Vaut,
last year we had plenty of people who supposed to
get drafted.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
It meant that the talent on the team was it
was better or perceived to be better than what the
talent on this team is perceived to be.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
So now because the talent isn't perceived to be better,
then we can't be optimistic, or we shouldn't be optimistic,
or you're just not optimistic.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
No, I'm not. I need I need to see to believe.
Of course, teams like Indiana and Vanderbilt they showed last
year that you could do that. I've seen Kentucky teams
show that you can do that. But when you turn
half of your roster over, which again I said, it's
not a bad thing when you go four and eight,
When you turn half that roster over, there's a lot
of unknowns. I mean, I don't know how anybody can say, yeah,
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we know we're going to do this and come do
that because half the team is new. You've got to
I think most of us need to see it to
be able to believe it.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Seeinging and believing and what we've heard, what I've what
I've been told. And uh, I don't really read a
lot of message boards, but van Heus and a lot
of other people I work with does read a lot
of message boards. What do you how much stock do
you put in Mark Stoop's telling SEC media that Zach
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Carzada has not essentially won the starting position. It is
between him and Cutter Bowley. How much stock do you
put in that?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
None?
Speaker 5 (05:40):
None.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Based based on what we seem to uh proceed from
watching practice and everything I've heard from anybody that's been
privy to practice, or any players on the team or anything,
I think it's Calzada has the job going into the
season now. Could cut Her get a chance to play early, yes,
he could, But I don't think like you're getting to
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start practice here in a couple of weeks and it's
going to be what we've got to decide real quick,
who's going to be our starting quarterback? I think that's
already been determined.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
What would be his purpose? But what would be his
purpose of misdirecting that comment to secure Currve Bowley for
another year or to keep the rest of the SEC
off balance on who they're going to see in week two?
What would be the what would be his purpose or not?
I mean, I don't think it bowls well for cows
outa if he knows that, and I don't know how
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well it will affect Cutter Bowley. If Carr Bowley knows
otherwise or not getting any reps in practice, and then
this is being said in the national media.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I think Cutter probably already knows from based something the
reps he got during the spring would be my guess
from all that I've heard and seen. So I don't
think anything that.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
Was gonna be said.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
It was gonna be a be surprised to Cutter, but
I think that coaches a lot of times just just
do that, just to say it and then we'll see
what happens. But I don't think there's any change that
he's not going to make Zach Calzatta the starter for
the first game. I mean, he talked about that he
didn't know when Cutters time would be. He didn't say
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it's very likely going to be August thirtieth against Toledo.
He said he didn't know when Cutters time was going
to be, that he was the quarterback of the future.
So those things to me tell me that Zach Calzato
is the quarterback that he's planning on having under center
when they take their first stamp against Toledo.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
What's perplexing to me. On top of that, before we
had to break before we come back with Lincoln Watkins
four start tight end out of Michigan. Uh, interesting to me?
Who do you who do you think is going to
be started running back? I'm starting to hear a whole
lot of buzz about other different names. Is Dante penciled
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in or market in permanent? Market in as a starter?
Speaker 4 (07:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
I don't necessarily know, because you heard a lot about him,
you're hearing some McCallan. I'm like you, I kind of
can't wonder what's happened to our guy who all he
does is go and gain yards whenever he's giving the ball.
But it seems like he's always there's something that that
he's doing that they don't like or they don't think
he's doing right. But will Cox just seems like he's
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just giving the ball. He just makes runs and gets
your yards. But apparently, I mean, I don't know about you,
but I don't hear much talk about him at all.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
No, I don't. I don't, Like I said, Jason Patterson
keeps coming up again, And like I said, we got
our boy to Vanni. I still think he has a
lot that he can show. So long as we're developing
these guys and giving him opportunity. I'm fine with it.
I don't just want to live in the portal. I
don't mind bringing a running back in, a running back
or two out of the portal, you know, to make
sure we have depth. But I think some of these
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young guys, like I said, especially to Vannie Jason, and
like I said, Will Coxy, just seems to be something
always going on with him. I guess off of the
football field. But I'm not in the locker room to
determine that. Larry Vault no me.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
All I can do. All I can do just watch
what he does on the field, and what we've seen
him do on the field has been pretty good.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
And what we are going to see on the field
in the future is Lincoln Watkins, and we will talk
to him when we come back from this break. You're
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Speaker 1 (09:17):
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Speaker 2 (09:26):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony
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We are now proud to be joined by UK Tidy
UK Commit tight End out of Michigan. Lincoln Watkins, Good morning,
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mister Watkins. How are you doing doing wells one?
Speaker 5 (09:54):
How you guys doing We're.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Doing pretty good. We're doing pretty good so far. I
was glad to have you get up early in. It's
also good to see Larry Vault calls it the Big House,
but ever since Kobe, he hasn't been to the Big House.
And I'm glad to see a man grounded in faith
that you went to the Big House before you joined
the show.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Yes, sir, yeah, I just got a true service now
actually so sitting in one of the classrooms and tuning
into the call. So I appreciate you guys making the
time to do this.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Thanks for George. So, how was it, What was the
journey liked to becoming a UK commit? Who'd you recruit
at you and what was your focus or what were
some of the key points of you choosing Kentucky?
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Yees, sir, yeah, Well, process started way back in ninth grade.
You know, it's been going for a while. I collected
up to I was at thirty three offers by the
end of it. So it was a big blessing. You know.
I had a lot of interest from some amazing schools.
As I kind of narrowed down my past this past year,
I got down to well, you know what really mattered
to me. And for me, I'm a very relational person.
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That's how my family really views this process. It's a
little bigger in football for us who might be surrounded
by you know, who's going to be growing, mean, the
young man that I am, that I'm going to become.
And so for us, we came down to a couple
of schools. We got down to Nebraska, Florida, and Kentucky
really wasn't in the mix to the end. So when
coach Derek Shay got the job, you know, just in
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this last twelve days at the June period, he got
the job and the next day he got onto us
and he's on Twitter strolling and seeing I had posted.
I had a little complications with one of my schools,
and I wanted to make sure that I had more
than just one option to be looking at. I wanted
to make sure that was fare and I felt led
to do that, so I made a couple of posts
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and he's seen that and he told me that in
his mind, he was like, Wow, this kid's still out there.
I got to reach out and he got on the phone,
you know, multiple times over the course of a day
or two, and my family decided, Hey, you know, heck,
let's try it. Let's let's give him a chance. Let's
get down to Kentucky and see what they're about, you know.
So that's exactly what we did, and we went on
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down there was on a Tuesday, and we were there
for two days in between official visit weekends, and I
mean we just fell in love it. It was amazing,
you know. They just you can really tell it. They
know what they're doing in the recruiting game, and they
did a great job recruiting me the type of person
I am, for sure, so it was great.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
And coach she has just been thrust into that position
just kind of recently. No one knows anything about his
recruiting ability or even it's him being a position coach
at that point. So it's safe to say that he
hit the ground running at like you said, until he
got into position your interest grew. Is it safe to
say that coach is a guy that's gonna do a
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great job at the recruiting end of that position?
Speaker 5 (12:40):
Coachhun, Yeah, I would say, like you had mentioned, I
mean a lot of a lot of people know about
you know what he's about. He's down at you know,
l s U for what some six years I believe
it was, and prior to that, he was at IMG
and you know, he's he's made his rounds. But I
think the big thing is the people he's surrounded by.
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Coaches just doding a great job, you know, putting amazing
people in positions there and it's really going to help them.
But in the recruiting game, for me, he wasn't a big,
heavy hitter like a lot of coaches. He wasn't here
to sell you everything, and he wasn't here to try
and win you over. In the recruiting game. He kind
of put it as it was. He you know, laid
the cards straight for us and just said, this is
what I got to offer you, this is what we
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have to offer you, this is my vision for you.
And I mean he just came at us as as
a straight up guy really just encouraging us and you know,
what we believe in and what we're standing for, and
that they can offer that to us, and what he
believes as a coach, and just being able to align
like that with a coach so well on so many
different areas of life, not just around football. It made
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it really easy. You know, when you when you find
bonds of people like that, that's the people you want
to sind yourself with, and especially in college football because
it's hard and it's a long it's a long journey.
You know that some anywhere from three to five years,
some cases in six years that we've seen recently, want
of good people around you. And he's he's a guy
that you want to surround yourself with, and I mean
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just talking football with them. He knows the stuff. He's
very knowledgeable. I like the way you've used the game.
You know, he was an old line guy back in
the day, so obviously he's had his fair share of
offensive drills and you know his reps over the years.
But as he approaches the tight end position with that knowledge,
I like the way he thinks about it. He's he's
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very open minded to the versatility of what the tight
end could be. You know, he's a he's a guy
who has a blocking background, so he can, you know,
really advance my skills in that area. But he's willing
to incorporate my skill set as a receiver more so,
which is where I've been the past couple of years.
And I mean him, along with Coach Bush and Coach Stoops,
I mean, that's what they want to do with me.
They want to have me as a flex guy and
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throw me all over the place. And I mean that's
what I've always done and that's what I'm up for.
And there's a lot of opportunity there, so it's gonna
be great.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Anthony. One of the things I really like about Lincoln
and talked about Derek, she is a recruiter. I don't know,
I really worry too much about the UK recruiters right
now because Lincoln's pretty darn good recruiter himself. Link at
this talk a little bit about after you committed, some
of the guys that you talk to hoping to get
to join you at Kentucky and maybe have many of
them now have committed to Kentucky.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Yes, sir, Yeah, you know, it's been great. There's so
many good people around us. I know, on my official visit.
I came back that next weekend with my family. My
grandpa joined us, just to spend some more time with
the staff because it was such a new experience. And
we are down there with some big time guys and
many of those guys who had committed, you know, thereafter
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pretty recently, we had a lot of guys who were
previously committed as well, and I got in contact with
them and we were texting the like, Hey, these guys.
I told them, like, they're on the visit right now, y'all,
you should hit them up and just start talking to
him some bo over here. And for me, I mean,
I just bought into what they're telling me. I bought
into the process. I believe in what coach is standing
for his vision for that team, and I just heard
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that with the guys. I mean, that was really it.
I know, the guys that were with me, Ben Duncomb
is one of the big ones, and Tyreekjemison. I really
connected with those two guys, and I'm like, I don't
really know where you are in your process, but I
mean I fell in love with it here and I
think you guys belong here. You know, I love you guys.
Hang out with you guys this weekend. I take week
to something special. And that was really it, just talking
over that weekend, just really trying to encourage them their decision, saying,
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you know, if it's not here, it's not here. But
I thinks it's a place for it, and I'd love
to play with you guys. They went home, they told
me when they're gonna make their decisions. I know, I
talked to Tyreek and he said that he was going
to end up committing there. He just hadn't made his
announcement yet, of course. And then following that, coach I
just have been talking to him like, Hey, is there
anyone that we're really close on the nex should message
and it's a couple of guys like Matt Fanatowski reached
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out to him a couple of times. I know my
mom spoke to his mom as well, just because we're
in the same kind of situation. You know, we want
to be closer to home, and his family means a
lot to him, and so that was a big part
of his recruitment. You know, he had these huge schools
and the end of this process his top player in
the country. And it was cool the talking I had
with him and just small talk, nothing crazy, just trying
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to be an encouragement honestly, and it was great and
obviously it worked in the end, you know, with everyone
who was talking to him and helping them out. But
this class has really come together collectively and made a
really big team effort to do what we've done. And
we have some big time names. You know. We got
five four star recruits in the span of I mean
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maybe two weeks. So it's a big time for Kentucky
and I'm really excited to see what we're going to do.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
And on the recruiting trail for you guys, are they
the coaches discussing or do you guys at this age
don't care about what the team did last year because
you went part of the team, or is that something
in any part of their sales pitch for you guys
coming here that last year was a down year based
off of the trajectory that Stooped in the UK was
on for a while.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Yeah sir, Yeah, so, I mean, I guess I put
it this. Anyone with a football mind and a knowledge
of football, if they're just you know, taking coach Dukes
off the last season they're kind of stupid. In my opinion.
He's a longer as long as tenured coaching SEC and
you know there's a reason for that. He's done some
great things and it's there's no telling what he's going
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to do in the future. And I mean as a
sales pitch to us, it's like you had mentioned, they
completely is like, yeah, we know season one to have,
We're not going to hide that, We're not gonna be
shy about it. It's true it sucked, but they said
they brought in a lot of guys and the culture
was where they wanted to. They're huge on what the
culture is in that just in the locker room. And
after this season, you know, a lot of guys had left.
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I'm sure some of them they were an encouragement to
just because that wasn't the place for them. They didn't
sit in the didn't mesh with the guys that were there.
I mean, they had about thirty some players come in.
He has about a third of their team that's brand
new this year, so a lot of a lot of
good culture guys. That's the huge thing on their recruitment
processes they had. I mean, while I was on my
official visit. There's guys there who just weren't resembling what
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they were looking for in an athlete, and they laid
it straight for him, saying, we're an amazing player, but
it's not what we want, you know. It's for them,
it's not just can you play football, it's who are
you as a young man? You know, how do you
hold yourself? How do you carry yourself? Just you know,
as an adult. I mean we're adults at this point
in our life, and can you do adult things outside
of football? And that's that's a huge thing. So you
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can really tell that too in the locker room. The
guy that spent my time with all very respectables, very
personal people, and it makes you feel a whole lot
more at home. It's a very big family environment, i'd say.
And for us, we're all looking at it as Look,
this is a new team this year. It's gonna be
something different, but it's going to be even better with
this class coming in. We can do our own thing.
We can do something new that no one's ever seen before.
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And that's that's the hope for the future. There's no
talent what's going to happen, But we got faith that
we can do something special and you know that's what
we're hoped for right.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Now, Lincoln, can you hold on through the break? So
I wanted to ask you about some philosophies that I've
been telling Larry Vaught about for many years. Is it
possible I can get you back after this break? That
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This is Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk, presented by
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Speaker 2 (20:27):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony
White along with Larry Vault. This hour of Sunday Morning
Sports talks about you by Country Boy Brewing and we're
still joined by Lincoln Watkins, UK University of Kentucky football
tight end commit talking about the process and getting to
University of Kentucky. And he has a future looks like
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he has a bright future of recruiting if he decides
to do that after his football career is over. But Lincoln,
when I'm impressed about Larry Vaught informed me and I've
been working on this show with Larry Vauk for twenty
years Lincoln, and I've told Larry Vaught a lot of times,
all I want is an offensive coordinator or an offensive
scheme that moved the change. And I was tickled. I
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was tickled paint when Larry Vault told me you had
that same philosophy. Where'd you pick that philosophy up from?
Is it from coaching, parenting or is that something you
discovered yourself?
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Well, I guess I'll tell you that when I first
started football, I kind of started later in a lot
of guys. I started around twelve, I think twelve thirteen
years old when I started playing football. And my first
football coach is my buddy's dad, and his philosophy was
first down every time touched the ball. If you don't
get a first down, you better fight every chance you
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get for it. And that's how we played. I mean,
I played quarterback and the past wasn't open, I'd run
and if I didn't get first down, he throwed me
out there and make it go again. I got one.
And that's how we played football. I mean, we did
amazing and I don't think I think my first loss
was my freshman year of high school. An amazing team.
I was surrounded by a lot of good players, and
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that's what we did. Let's get a first time every time,
and if you didn't get on the second play, and
that's I just lived that way since then playing football,
and it's it's done a lot for me. You know.
It's that's the way to win, and it works. That's
what I love doing. Chains, keep them going, so uh,
you know, score a touchdown, go bag, do it all over.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Again, Larry vaugh It took him to explain that to you.
And I've been trying to tell you that for twenty
maybe maybe even more in the twenty years, because you've
covered me for thirty years, Larry Vot.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
I've never said I didn't understand that, Anthony. I just said,
it's okay to score.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
Thanks.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
But I also just told you that I knew as
soon as Lincoln told me that that you were going
to fall in love with him. I'm afraid you would.
He let me flcome the whole show. But I knew
when he said, out of his seventy eight touches last year,
said me to win for first downs, and he talked
about the importance of that. I said, oh my gosh,
Lincoln's got a soul mate and Anthony White that you
guys are going to be okay, then that Lincoln, you
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do you do agree though, if you make the play,
you get the first it's steel okay to go all
the way and get the end zone score touchdown on
the same play, correct one.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
I guess my philosophy on that is first the first
thing in mind score touchdowns. You can't at least get
that first down, you know, move to chain. So but
I mean, yeah, that's the first look of course always.
But you know, as a tight end, you know you're
getting the ball on traffic, You're you probably got a
break about three or four before you getting the old field.
So I just like fighting through guys, know and trying
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to get up or if I'm playing a quarterback on
the back field, I got to get through a whole
full chain of guys, you know. So, but yeah, I know,
most definitely that's the first look.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
And now I've heard you talk a little bit about
the utilization of, you know, the tight end in the game.
Are you as opposed to Uh, We've had some great
tight ends come through here. Actually, I played with one,
probably one of the all time leading receivers in a
UK history at the tight end position. But are you
opposed to blocking more than catching or have they told
you that they're going to target the tight ends a
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whole lot more? Because that's one thing, Larry, it's always
interesting how much we're gonna target the tight end. Why,
I don't know, because you were just like a running back.
You got a black. If you got a black, you
gotta catch. If you got to catch, and by god,
if you got to run, you gotta run. You just
do what the team needs you to do.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
Yes, sir, I mean it's the most worsatile position on
offense in my mind. You know, I got a blacklick
alignment runner outs like receivers. It's it's not easy by
any means, but it takes a special person for sure.
Now for me, I mean I'm not no, I'm You've
got a block to catch black and then you get
on a field, you go run some routes. That's that's
the first thing. You know that literally the first thing
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in mind is learned how to black. And I'm not
opposed to that whatsoever. I know. For me, I just
had a skill set of a receiver in my whole life.
So I've been utilized in that way because it's been
I've just been a lot more dominant there.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
But I mean I blocked.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
I played receiver in high school, so it's hard. You know,
I'm not going against the big guys as much. I'm
just blocking corners and usually I'm taking the sideline for
a sweep around the edge. But yeah, no in college,
and that's a big thing that I'm looking for. Coach
he wants he wants me to be a guy who
whether we want to go from eleven to ten personnel
or out to twelve, I don't have to come out
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of the game. Uh that's our thought, you know, being
a guy where you're making those changes. You know, teams
know what you're doing. But the same guys in the
game all the time. It makes it pretty dang easy.
So I mean, for me, that's that's gonna be a
big thing. Uh as transitioning into college, just how I
take on that rule and if I can accept that,
you know, that's that's my goal on end goal. I
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played a lot of quarterbacks in my years, so be
able to do some wild cast stuff. I know, if
talk with coach and as you mentioned as far as
cut in usage with Coach Bush. I mean, I think
that's not gonna be an issue in these coming years.
We have some special guys in the program now and upcoming.
I believe you know, I got guys younger than me
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that I know UK's recruiting. It are some really special
players and I think I can help make an impact there.
You know, you're seeing what coach has done in the
past at Boise State Missouri. You know, a huge and
type and usage, and especially since coming years, I think
when you have the right athletes, you can definitely incorporate
that more. It's it's the thing that a lot offense
coordinators want to do. It's just if they're the right
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guys there to do it. So I mean, I hope
and pray that that's going to be the case coming
but I think you've promising for you guys that you'll
be seeing a lot more of that, hopefully.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
And I also like link in the fact that you
play the outside linebacker on defense, which shows me you've
got a lot of toughness to you. But you alsea
have a lot of competitors that you don't want to
come up that feel that you want to be out
there every play. You can be out there.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Yeah, sir, Yeah, that's I mean, that's kind of how
we were raised up here. You know, smaller football teams,
not many guys playing, but just playing gritty, tough football.
That's that's kind of how we were raised. You play
offense and you play defense. I've always played off That
backer got my you know, kind of got my feet
wet playing defensive end. But I've always loved backer. I
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just I like playing with aggression. That's a big thing.
I know, coach said, know in my film, a lot
of coaches recruit me. They look my defensive film more
than offin film, just because I play so aggressively and
so I'm such a physical football player, which can help
me in the blocking game. You know. It shows I'm
not going to shy away from the contact and me,
I mean that's from my mentality. You know. I think
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a lot of a lot of coaches tell me that
in person, I'm a lot nicer of the person that
they figured I would be because I go out there
and you know, I'm just completely different person on the
football field. But in my mind that's how it should be.
I was pretty neat actually bringing up the defenses side
of things. Last year, I was a first team All
State as an outside linebacker, and everyone was like, I
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thought this guy was tight of end. But I was
surprised myself. But it was just a cool thing that shows,
you know, the versatility in the game of football. You know,
if you can do one thing well, you should be
able to do other things well. That's kind of how
I approach it. I've always been a guy who isn't
just excellent at one position necessarily, but I'm I'm pretty
good at a lot of positions. And for me, that's
how I'd rather have it any day of the week.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
And looking at bush offense last year, I don't think
he got a lot of the things that he wanted
to get out of his offense. I don't think they
got enough plays in. But there's a lot of times
that they are you aware that they move the tight
end to the backfield sometimes the pool they may start
off in the backfield and you know, move to the slot.
But the tight ends a lot of times lineup in
the backfield, as you said, just to keep the defense honest.
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And sometimes you may be pulling from there. Sometimes you
may be going on the route. Are you aware that
the tight ends do line up in the backfield at times.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
Yeah, So we did a little bit of film breakdown
when I was down there, and so Coach and I have,
you know, gone all over that process a lot. We
I said in about a three hour meeting with Coach Bush,
just breaking down really what their ideal is for me
and what they've done with other guys, and yeah, some
aware of that. That's something that I'm actually incorporating my
high school offense this year. We have a new coaching
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offenseive coordinator, so we're gonna mix it in a lot
of stuff like that, kind of which would be good
for me. Prep you know, understand you know how that
works is but keeping the defensive honest exactly what you're saying,
I think that's gonna be a great thing for us.
And that's something I'm gonna love to do. I like
moving around and you know, trying to throw people off.
If they can't find you on film, and you know
they can't prepare for you, they can't beat you. So
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just hopefully we can you know, line up any formation
and run all sorts of different concepts out of them.
That's that's when you're your strongest. So that's what I'm
looking forward to a lot.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
And my last question for you, I don't know if
Larry has a question my life. It's so you've tol
ud a lot about yourself. But if you had to
sure give a sales pitch to the big Blue Nation,
what are they going to be getting with Lincoln Watkins.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
Well, I guess I'll tell them that they're gonna get
a big community edition. I'd say I'm gonna I'm gonna
try really involved in the community out there, you know,
doing it for the people. That's what football is about.
You know, it's a community sport and I've seen that
with Kentucky football. But hopefully the next biggest tight nd
out of the University of Kentucky. My goal is to
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be the all time you know, reception and uh touchdown
leader at the tight end position, but just a big time,
hardcore football player. I'm going to represent everybody well and
represented state of Kentucky, but also representing the state of
Michigan as well, my hometown and uh, just the guy
who's gonna be there ready to play football, love the
people around him and make sure he shows love to
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everyone that's you know, supporting me in my process.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Well, Lincoln, You've done great this morning, just like I
knew that you would certainly appreciate it. Just make sure
that you and now we know this too, and your
mother keep making those recruiting calls. Keep that rocks for
getting stocked.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
Okay, just there, I'll make sure I get on that
for you all. And okay, you guys on what's going on.
I appreciate you guys having me on here today.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
All right, thank you, Lincoln. We will be back after this.
You are listening to Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk
on news radio six thirty WLAP.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
This is Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk, presented by
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Speaker 2 (31:00):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony
White along with Larry Vaught. It's thanks to Lincoln. Why
can four star tight end commit to University of Kentucky football?
Larry Vaught Clay David could be David Clay, but on Twitter,
it says on ex it says Clay David has a
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question which maybe Bo may be better off answer, because
I think between the three of us, both probably is
affected by this little bit more than myself for Larry Vaught.
They receive their season ticket renewal from UK Basketball, they're
curious on the thoughts of the show that they are
now the seats now comes the mandatory k Fund donation
in addition to increased pricing. Do you think that will
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affect renewals? Larry vaulton you the voice of the people.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
I don't think it will this year because of the
way the pay scale and all is going, and also
because of the excitement that Mark Poe has generated, because
I believe the things them will be. If you don't
take your ticket, somebody else is going.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
To this year.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
But hasn't that been the way has been for majority
of the history of Kentucky basketball, Like they've really never
really probably had trouble selling the tickets of people just
waiting for you not to get them so someone else
can get them, or has that changed?
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Had it changed the last couple of years. I think
there's been some opportunities that you could get tickets that
you had before, and there's always been some of the
tickets I think that we're tied to you had to
make a certain donation to a fun bow. Ain't no
better about that than me? Says, I've ever had season tickets.
I think that's always been the case with some tickets,
but maybe it's the case with all tickets.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Now, You're right, some tickets you have to donate to
the K Fund, some tickets you don't. Or if you
want to be economically and financially responsible, you just wait
until those single game tickets become available. Or I think
they'll do season packages again where you buy four games
and just to boy the K Fund altogether.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Huh and Larry, I guess Larry Ambo does the whole idea,
the mandatory donations considering the new landscape of the revenue
sharing for sports and college sports in general, and the
power for does that do you think people are, like
you said, are they more okay with paying it and
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having the price increase because they know or how soon
where the money is going, rather than, you know, just
feeling like there's extra paying kinds of basically it seem
like you're directly to me, it kind of seems like
you're directly paying the players, so you it's not you know,
you're giving it to barn Hard and the athletic department.
The athletic department and they're distributing how they want to.
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It seems as if, you know, it should be going
directly to the profit share.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
I don't know about BO. I've got some friends that
think this is fine and they understand it. I got
some that absolutely hated and are a fit about it.
So I don't know how bose group of friends would
feel about that, but I'd say mine are about split
fifty fifty on it.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Are you got BO Are y'all y'all still do tickets
or have y'all stopped doing that or they gave them
all the lacy all of a sudden you don't get
them no more.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
My family gave the season tickets up a few years ago.
I still go. You know that, I still go now.
As far as like friends and the talent fee kind
of like what Tennessee did and the money going to
the players. I think my friends that are season ticket holders,
they're totally fine with it as long as the UK
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is winning.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Yeah, good point, good point.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Yeah. So that and the crazy thing about it, if
this is going to be the future and you are
excited about what Mark Pope is going to do, it's
saying and I don't even want to give even to
give it one second of a thought, the same things
doesn't turn out the way Mark Pope wants to kind
of like things took a turn for Mark Stoops last year,
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Say it doesn't. Is that making things unrecoverable? Because like
I said, I think everybody's motivated off what Mark Pope
did his first year and that with the better and
the more, uh understand the roster understands a little bit
more because Mark Pope just had to throw a roster
together at the last minute last year. But now him
having a roster that he's able to construct the way
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he wants to get, you know, have a lot of
hands on time with these guys. If things doesn't turn
out the way he expects, and now they're they raising
the ticket prices and things like that because this thing
spiral out. Are you you think just the the history
of Kentucky basketball sustained, Larry I thought both An answered.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
I think if you don't win, it always is going
to be shaky times. But I think Kentucky basketball is
going to stay in that position. Just like what when
Dennis Johnson said we had him. There's just a little
bit of difference in the magnitude of UK basketball versus
UK football and that's probably never going to change.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
You're not going to tell twenty thousand people to stay
home on a UK basketball night. Yeah, that's right. You know,
it's like telling people, you know they want to they're
not happy with football, stay home. Hit UK in the
pocket where it is, don't buy the tickets. You're not
going to tell that many people to stay home. It's
not going to happen. You can't tell anybody to do
anything anymore, So what good is that going to do.
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There's always going to be people that have a little
money to throw towards tickets and go to UK athletic events.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Well they did. I mean, I fire you. I wouldn't
tell that joker Phillips. They did the joker Phillips.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Oh, I know because I was there for a few
of those games and I froze that last game when
they lost to Vanderbilt. I was there, So nobody tell
me to stay home. Yeah, I get it. But people
are going to go regardless.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Speaking of going to go, are you going to TV?
Are you going to Memorial College Sam at two thirty
to day or not? Or are the Blues Brothers going
Are they they will be Friday?
Speaker 4 (37:03):
Yeah, they will be there. They are in for the
long haul when it comes to TBT and if it
works out to where Live Familia plays the Ville and
that game coming up, I think next week they're going
to be there already. Talk to them about it. Okay,
So I'm kind of like their booking agent and you
you are.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
For the UK women's games. How they've been invited to
those bo.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Yes, it has been discussed, Okay.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Discussed and planned are two different things. You sound a
little bit uncertain for them well as their booking agent.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
They planned on discussing UK women's basketball for the upcoming season.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
After the last week show you have to you gotta
go watch women's basketball? Oh, I agree, A mill a
mill a MILLI is going to put in work. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
And I didn't know that song when I played it
last week. You you still hadn't heard it after you
played it. I mean, I've never heard that before my
life until Cammy told me in the break that would
be a good song to play.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Are you not a little Wayne fan?
Speaker 4 (38:06):
I mean I don't listen to will Lil Wayne. It's
not my wheelhouse. I know who he is. I mean,
you should give me a little credit for that as
a disc jockey.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
I thought that, Wow, I'm a little surprised at you.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
But I'm good enough doing what I do on Sunday mornings.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
And it's different if I heard if I've heard songs
before and I don't know who sing them, a lot
of times, you can tell me who's who sings the songs,
but I would have heard most of the time I've
heard the songs, whether I know the names of them
or the artists or not. So you kind of really
surprised me with your with your knowledge of music that
you are not.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
I don't know Wayne, I don't know at all. We
should be happy that I know who little Wayne is
at this point in my career.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Absolutely. And I didn't get your before we get off here.
I didn't get your your take, and I didn't ask you.
But after today's show and Media SEC Media Day, are you,
are you a little bit more convinced or optimistic about
this football season or you, like Larry Watt, you still negative, Nancy,
because we gotta start getting that bandwagon together.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
Man.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
See, if we can't get a new alternator, can.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
We start the bandwagon a few games into the season.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
We got to have it.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
We have to have it out of the yard we
have the bandwagon is not out of the parking lot
yet at all.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Does it have gas in it?
Speaker 4 (39:28):
Very little?
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Does it have an engine?
Speaker 4 (39:32):
A little bit of an engine, A little engine that could,
a little big blue engine that could.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
We got to sustain this show. You and Larry's negativity
is not gonna lost the saint not sustain this show
through August and September to get ready for this whole thing.
Got to do better. I'll try, Larry Wall. We need
you to do better, man, We need you to do better.
Thanks to Jack Pilgrim joining us for a little time.
Welcome into the world, little Miles Pilgrim. Thanks to Lincoln
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Lincoln Watkins for joining us this morning. Thanks to Brittany
Harris to join us TBT. Tune in Fox fifty six
for my familiar TBT game at two point thirty today.
Thanks to Larry vaudas always Bo Robinson. I'm Anthony whit
and this has been stock Yards Banks Sunday. Wont this
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