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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports stock. I'm Anthony White,
along with Jack Pilgrim and now joined by my partner
on the Locker and host of Riding Driving Listening with
Styles Van House and as always.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Our gracious gracious producer Bo Robinson. Uh.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Coming to you from hot, extremely hot Lexington, Kentucky, Van Howes.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
I know it. If it's hot here, it has to be.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
I don't even know what the I don't even know
what the word will be used down there in the Bayou.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Normal y'all, y'all, y'all soft up there, Yeah, y'all.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
Yeah, come on, y'all, y'all can't deal with a week
of heat. Come on, man, it's always ninety here.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
I'm from the Midwest. I'm not I'm not from the
mid South thorder South. I'm from the Midwest. So eighty
eighty five is good for me.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Yeah, I got you, I got you. Yeah, it's it's uh.
If you're not used to it, boy, it could it can.
It can hit you in the wrong way. Hopefully everybody
take care of themselves. Hidre stay inside.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Before we get back to talking about Shay Jack Pigrim,
Before we want to break I asked you about you
talked about the sudden death basketball, Like, I don't know
if you know this or not then, but we had
a conversation going on. But you get when Jack respond
you can tell me how you feel. So Jack, they
do the jump ball. And I understand there's on the
time crunch because that tournament started at eight o'clock and

(01:39):
there's a poor little dude, man, poor little dude doing
the bookkeeping by itself. Jack from eight am. Was the
first game. We left at like eight something and there
was a whole other game started at nine o'clock. So
I understand that. You mean you got to stay on schedule.
We got that many games back to back to back

(02:00):
to back to back, back front to back to back
to back to front that But I asked my cousins.
They said they seen it, Like you said, they've seen
it done before. So that's not a normal format. That's
just they just use it as certain events. I kind
of like it, but I feel like we're gonna do it.
We're just gonna do an AAU or whatever. Maybe not
a high school basketball, but if we're gonna do it,

(02:20):
we're just gonna do it in those circuits in general.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
Yeah, when you get summer summer league games like this,
you know, you now is the time to test some unique, different,
different things and stuff like this is usually when we've
seen it.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
So yeah, this is a I'm glad you had a guy.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
I hope that book keeper enjoy the sleep and you know,
got some good rest and you know it doesn't have
to do another you know, twelve hour day or whatever
whatever it was yesterday. But yeah, I'm glad everything went well. It.
Like I said, what's frustrating is that event is usually
in Shelbyville, right, It's five minutes down down the street
from my house. So it's usually my favorite event to

(03:03):
go to because the you know, Kentucky coaches usually pop
over and you know, participate be a part of it.
But unfortunately got moved to Lexington, so a five minute
drive turns into a forty five minute drive back and
forth to this event.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
So you know, it stinks. This typically is one of
my favorite events of the year.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Well, I wouldn't be too I'm not gonna I can't
speak for a fact, but I wouldn't be too concerned
about the bookkeeper, Jack Pigrim, because if you worked that
long and it looked like he may have been sixteen,
between anywhere between sixteen, anywhere between fifteen and maybe nineteen,
just a young looking nineteen. But I'm sure he was
compensated pretty handsomely. I'm sure he would have had to

(03:44):
have been. But so I'm not really concerned about that.
I got another point I want to make to you,
Jack Pilgrim. I have to point this out, like I
just have to point it out because I've never seen
it in my life. But have you seen that before?
Van House? The sudden death basketball? Know you, you know
you covered your sister for a long time, followed herb.
But I don't know how much your kids play basketball.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
I've never seen it in the first overtime.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
For me, first, there's only one overtime.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
No, but what if it's tied again, you have a
double overtime. You can't what I'm saying, No, no, no, no, scratch, Anthony,
this is what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
In a regular basketball game, I'm tired.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
You're going to overtime, right, I would say, go one
to two minutes for the first one. If it goes
double overtime, then I will understand that. For me, What
if I'm the team that came from twenty down. You
know what I'm saying. What I got the momentum. They
just happen to have a six' ten guy with a,
tail and he tempted. It THAT'S bs for the first. Overtime,

(04:51):
now IF i can't do it after, two THEN i
understand we're talking about a.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
Minute, look then other thing you can. Do don't give
the coaches any time out playing a minute straight like
this whole thing on a. Tip what if my guy's
slips and.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
That's just a. Layup, No, no that's. Bogus that That midwest.
Stuff that's That midwest. Stuff y'all soft because of the.
Temperature and now y'all can't play another minute and a
half or two minutes old, time y'all salt up.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
There that is.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Rough like you, said if you've all that work you
did to come back and make it an overtime game
and then your fruits of all your labor.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
Just in two, seconds two, seconds your game is, over
that is.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Rough Jack, Pilgrim now listen to. Me listen good With
van you two BO i don't know how much you
are into scholastic, sports but, listen So Jack, pilgrim, apparently
and You i'm sure you're well aware of. This when
you go to these. Events there's a ton of referees
just sitting in the corner LIKE i don't, KNOW i
don't know if they got like like like what they

(05:59):
call them a nerve referees or. Something but there's extra
ones just over there like just you. Know but the
games are back to, back SO i know it probably gets.
Exhausting maybe somebody gets a phone called somebody's brains the,
ankle who. Knows so there's a bunch of refs over.
There now the Game i'm. Doing the GAME i am
watching Is mail And Lakota. West so the game gets

(06:24):
kind of. Heated it's a little point guard from number
five From La cota From. Mail it has a green. Light,
man dude lose ice like he can hit from. Deep
he's nice and he's just being real physical like these
these refs ain't calling no files unless you hit the
ground or somebody's. Bleeding they not calling files jack. People

(06:45):
the game gets. Tight it's like a ten point, game.
Dude at the so they break it down the four.
Points The Coda west is losing by. Four The Coda
west Steals Wall scorts, bucket little buddy doing the scoreboard by,
himself messes up and, puts so makes it a six point.
Game gives the points To. Mail the crowd goes, wild

(07:09):
so they get it. Fixed so they stopped. Playing it's
like thirty something seconds left now they stopped, playing so
now it's a two point. Game the coach From. Mail
there's a referee that has to be eighty nine years.
Old the coach From mail is in his ear the whole,
time so the fans are, like, stop there's thirty some seconds.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Left we want to get the ball. In the coach
From mail.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Is just going on and on about whatever happened on
the last thing that made it two. Points the fans are,
like take team, up get them out, there and they
inbound the ball. Again there's immediate. File the play stops.
Again the coach From mail is in his.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
Ear.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Game there's this young, cat nicely put together, cat maybe six,'
three probably two thirty.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Two forty they are two thirty two.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Twenty five so he comes over there to assist the
elderly ref and they get on. His Head jack pillger
they get so it's, the elderly it's the, young cat
probably maybe twenty eight. Twenty seven and then there's, another
referee maybe in, his thirties, who knows but he's just,
short guy just looked like may never played, Ball Before.

(08:12):
Jack pilgrim do you know when they mbalanced the ball the,
next time that twenty seven year old ref walked off
the court and sat on the bench with the other.
Reserve refs so in the clutch of, the game there's
only two refs in the game because this, Dude said
i'm not putting up with.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
This crap it just walked off the court and just sat.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Over there then when it got down to, the end
they wound up shooting free throws at like six seconds because,
you know the, you know whole. File situation then he
came back in and. Started, participating again have you ever
seen something? Like that and what would you recommend?

Speaker 5 (08:46):
FOR him i have seen sudden THAT as i have
not seen that. REFEREEING situation i will, say though like a.
Peach jam you See Like doug show and some of the,
you know, big time Big name College of, basketball officials
they lead like this liss referee conventions like they lead

(09:11):
they're like the head official of the Official officiating committee,
or whatever and they Use Like peach jam as, the
like hey we're going here's how.

Speaker 6 (09:24):
You officially officiate, a game and, you know provide kind
of hands on analysis and, you know feedback in real
time as the games are going On At.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
Peach jam, so, like yeah you Get.

Speaker 5 (09:35):
Like ted valentine and uh some, you know some of
the old HEADS like nba refs are, you know kind
of hang. Around Too But duck shallows is kind of
the main one that that pops his head in every
once in a how to lead the kind of like
The referee convention. Or WHATEVER so i wonder if that's
kind of what the, deal was where, you know there's
a head official and it's kind of like a, teaching

(09:56):
opportunity but clearly that that guy needs to be taught
a little.

Speaker 7 (09:59):
Bit more that sounds Like a kentucky fans. Worst night
mayre a referee leaving the no a gaggle. Of, referees
yeah like That dun child's laid in.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
THE pack.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
I, will say, young man whoever, you ARE and i
know someone because YOU want i know you HAVE because i,
never WITNESSED so i know you went home and. Told
somebody so whoever your, friends are if you know this
guy calling in, the show explained to me. What happened but,
YOUNG man i had. YOUR back i was kind of letting.
You KNOW but i know you had heat from. Both

(10:32):
sides you didn't know who was, attacking you who was.
SUPPORTING you i, Understand that but, YOUNG man i admire
what you're doing because referee. Is tough we've HAD A
khsa a commissioner on this show many a time trying
to recruit refereeing because refereeing. Is hard it has. Become
DANGEROUS so i do appreciate what, you did. Young man
i'm not making light of. Your situation it just shows

(10:52):
me that you had to be in an intense situation
and that is not fair for you just trying to do.
A Job But, van house before we go, to break
what would, you say and this ain't, the locker so
don't give a locker, HEAD.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Man i would, say this we need to we need
to do better as. A, Society yes and is it
this high school or just?

Speaker 4 (11:16):
Full level because it May high, All, right okay this.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
HIGH school i can understand maybe you senior kid trying
to get a scholarship to go, to college but, come,
on y'all this is A summer league in the summer
where it should be fun and it should be a
time for these guys to get better and create some
chemistry with, each other and not you and your son
trying to Get To. Fordham university, come on let's let's

(11:40):
do better.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
As fans.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
That Is van how's we will continue this conversation when we.
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Speaker 8 (11:51):
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Speaker 1 (12:02):
Welcome Back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning sports Talk On anthony
white Along With jack Pilgrim And van house and Our Producer.
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(12:22):
we let, you go a couple of little LITTLE things
I did i know we glossed over. The Earlier john
short brought, it up but we did get a, five
star six to one guard swing wing.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
Sword.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
From Canada So kenny brooks is still. At Work larry
vaughd ain't on, the show so we're safe to talk about.
Girls basketball You Think kenny brooks has shook off the
funk that ended the season. Last year our fan base
has short memories like, defensive backs but or because she

(13:03):
is she Is, from canada it's not because everybody was
TALKING about i would never Come to kentucky and then
all these people and we don't know if they are
trolls or WHATEVER, on x but everybody's Commenting On. Kenny
brooks it was trending for, a while and they seem
as if he, wouldn't recover but it seems like we're recovering.
Pretty Well, Jack, coober.

Speaker 5 (13:22):
Yeah it's, pretty, Impressive man like his second top ten
commitment in the twenty twenty, sixth class following a five
star Commitment From kaylen carroll Before McDonald's all american twenty. Twenty,
five so, you know we're talking about this multi year
kind of setting, the foundation setting the tone, of, like
hey we're gonna Have McDonald's all americans and top, ten recruits,

(13:45):
you know lining the roster top, to bottom, you know
year after year. After year, YOU know i think he's,
you know set playing a long, game obviously, you know
the year one was, A success year two is going
to be. A success but like, you know we're talking
about building a foundation for you know if, ten year,
you know potentially dominant run Here in Lexington With. Kenny brooks,
So yeah i'm thrilled at set, savvy swords really cool

(14:07):
name Picked picked kentucky OVER u C, L A, South Carolina,
Notre dame michigan number nine. Overall recruits, So Yeah kenny
brooks has those has that.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Program cooking since you're in the MEDIA and i know
you WORK, for ksrs y'all stay in the, buzz man
y'all'll keep'll keep it cracking?

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Over there what what do you?

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Attest to and this is not a bad Thing until
vince To The vince news.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
CAME up uk women's basketball wasn't a.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Whole lot i'm talking about even on, our show, you
know the father uh, Son camp uh's father. Daughter camp
it was kind, Of quiet like a lot of the
rumlins are. Really quiet what's going on even with with
our men's, Basketball team like so around campus? Is quiet
is that Something that barnhart wants to do or we

(14:53):
have to do it because we got, A report like,
you said you got what ten hours of of kids
are you gotta you gotta Do for but it's it's
tough when there's no there's, like this there's none negative
report and there's none extremely exciting.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
The report is that a?

Speaker 4 (15:08):
Good, THING yeah i mean you'd rather.

Speaker 5 (15:12):
No, controversy no you know there's a you you like
the dead. Of summer when there is, you know you
have content to. Write about and, it's like, you know
you got to get creative with recruiting stories and, you know,
random events You know game, seven tonight like you just
things happen organically. Over time but what you don't want

(15:33):
is when, you know you random things pop up in
the news with all this guy, got arrested, you know
he gets. So boring it's gets such a downtime, that people,
you know that's when people start getting creative in, their
shenanigans and you know that's that's how they pop up
in stories for the.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
Wrong reason, so yeah no news is good news in.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
That, regard well we'll take, You Know kenny brooks commitments
and you Know Cats Ad, lincoln walkins you know type
new tight, ends coach, you know flexes his recruiting muscles
for the. First time we'll take those types, of stories
but we don't. Want you we don't want.

Speaker 7 (16:06):
The Alternative tom lache called me, last week and this
was a day After The vince morrow. News broke And
what i'm getting ready to say is not a Knock against.
Vince WHATSOEVER but I told, TOM well i was kind
of worried about what you boys were going to talk
about during. The summer, tom, Said yeah vince kind of
gave us a gift for the sports. Radio, people yeah
and he's gracious enough to come this week to come

(16:29):
on the air, with us.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Even though the people tried to beat. Him, UP man
I don't i don't get. IN this i Don't think
i've gotten any type of beating up. Or slander do you.

Speaker 7 (16:36):
Know what it's been a week and. A Half now i'm.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Over it.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
I'm done he's a friend, Of, mine yeah was in the.
OTHER weekend I was i was gonna call, Him UP
but i don't. KNOW where i don't know where our
friendship lies because he in. The media once you're in,
the media you don't know who can trust you. Or not,
you know you Could Be, van house you Could Be,
larry vaup you Could Be. Jack pilgrim then you. HAVE
me i ain't on.

Speaker 7 (16:58):
Nobody's side you stand like Stone Cold steve Auston.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Van Hous What kenny brooks is, DOING though i.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
DON'T know i know track is your your number one
thing that you love to, talk about but women's basketball
is pretty near and dear. To You Has Kenny brooks
do you think he shook the? Funk off do you
think the funk was warranted or was there never any?
Funk there what do you think about what he's doing
as far as recruiting is stacking up for.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
The, future, yeah well first, of, all yeah y'all did
kind of interrupt Me Watching New Balance Outdoor, national championships
but there was no there was no Stink on kenny
Of what kenny did last year was incredible and it's
going to only get better and To get Greenway and savvy.

(17:46):
Is incredible for the twenty twenty, sixth class this has
to be with those, two commits the best class that
we've ever HAD in. UK history, i mean we got
two five star players and we started there was. NO
stink i understand there's some animosity because you we let

(18:09):
go of a, homegrown KID and i can, understand THAT
but i would tell, you this when you start, the
winning everybody has forgotten about everything that's happened in. The
past these next few years are going to. Be amazing
and it says, to ME which i was, scared of
Is That kenny brooks seems To be this is not
just a. Pit stop seems like he might be here for.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
A minute.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
You, KNOW what i just thought about it when you,
said That because i've been doing a lot. Of comparisons
you know what that comparison is, To ME and i
know it's a whole lot different because of, the backgrounds
and it's some two people are near and dear to yourself. And,
myself well so they were up in Arms About cassidy
road leaving or being asked to leave or forced.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Out whatever you.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
Know what it reminds, me of and it really hurt
me at that POINT because i didn't know How Great
tim couch was.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Gonna Be But.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Billy Jack has why why isn't everybody raising up Noise
When Billy jack haskins had a.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
Lead m that's a good point because because.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
You said, homegrown heroes what made me think about the?

Speaker 4 (19:11):
Yeah man because he got supplanted by another. Hometown hero, you.

Speaker 7 (19:18):
Know why we Didn't have twitter. Back then now that,
it's true we didn't.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Have an outlet.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
For Him if tim cost Was on tennessee would have. Been,
different yeah, You're right i'm. Just, asking yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
You're, right no, you're right. YOU'RE right i didn't think.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
About that so he got me back on got me back,
On Track, jack pilgrim before we let, you go what's gonna? Happen,
Tonight man shay gonna bring? It home and it really
got like. Thirty seconds But is shay go and bring?
It home and if he does bring? It home does
does he got to be in the TOP five uk?

Speaker 4 (19:48):
All?

Speaker 5 (19:48):
Time oh those are two very. Different, conversations man that's that's.
That's CRAZY but i mean if HE Finals Mvp world champion,
and uh you Know AND, LEAGUE mvp i feel like
you have to at least put him in. THE conversation
i just feel like it's a, you know. Weighted conversation
it's a factor in regularly, season performance, you know, postseason

(20:12):
accolades things, Like that so probably in. The conversation, but yeah,
you know we gotta probably take a whole segment or
two to knock that. One OUT but i think The thunder,
goo uh, you know win. The night there's a stat
that's like the every IN The Nba finals game seven
average is like six points margin. Of victory so it's

(20:32):
gonna be a, tight game back. And forth so we
Live for game, sevens man this is this is what
we why we do. All this it's gonna, you know
entertainment at its. Absolute peak so super excited. FOR it
i hope. It's close hope it's back. And forth hope
we get some late, you know late chaos and the.
Late magic, AND yes i do hope that a thunder pull.
IT off I hope sga pulls. It off but don't.
Forget aout, My, boy, Case, okay Case and wallace is

(20:55):
a dog and he's he's prepared for big moments, like
this so he's gonna turn around.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
Some rough you're gonna have, a, big old Big time.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Game seven thank you for your, Time today Jack churn us.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Awesome articles go Check Out, Jack Pigrim, jack pigrim Kiz
OUR ben I and bo will continue this conversation when we.
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Speaker 1 (21:34):
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I'm anthony white Along With van house And Producer.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
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yeah i can't watch a, movie now cold. Dark, Room yeah.
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Speaker 5 (23:02):
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Speaker 1 (23:07):
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came here some Satellite camps June twentieth Friday. And thursday
friday Was In laurel County and thursday Was In. Russell

(23:29):
county satellite camps for seventy. Seventeen years they were. BOTH
free i was wondering that if the One In laurel
county was to help with some recovery of some of
the disasters that has. OCCURRED there i don't Know Where russell.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
County is is? That close?

Speaker 3 (23:43):
You?

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Know, both ooh you don't even want from, the state
so you may What.

Speaker 7 (23:50):
Is russell county close to Somewhere, middle campbellsville somewhere around
not not Not, near Campbellsville but i'm thinking down that.
WAY somewhere i can't remember, at all but as far
as the satellite Camp In. LAUREL county i had a
friend of my actually a friend of, my sister who

(24:10):
lost everything in the tornado a few, weeks ago and
she was able To Meet mark pope and they took
a video together And Actually mark pope kind of called
me out a. Little bit i'll get to, that later
because y'all. Look alike i've got a story about, that
too that Happened. Last tuesday but just the Fact That

(24:31):
mark pope is. Down there he brought the Team To
laurel COUNTY and i don't know if there was any.
RECOVERY efforts i would like to think that they did
devote some time to some. Of that but just the
morale and the support that they can offer That this
kentucky basketball team can offer to the fans Then In,
laurel county it just means so much. TO them i

(24:52):
was thrilled to see some of the video and even the,
kids yesterday if You Saw, otega ohway they had cupcakes
lined out on a table for. His, Birthday, birthday yeah
and he blew out the candles and somebody said make.
A wish what was? Your wish and he looked at
those kids and, HE said i wish for everybody to
help me eat all these CUPCAKES because i can't do it.
By myself those kids. Went nuts that's what. It's about

(25:15):
That's what kentucky basketball. IS about i thought it. Was
fantastic that, Is neat that Is great. Kentucky basketball so
it's NOT a i guess it's not just solely A giant.
Caliperry Thing And mark pope, gets In And mark pope
And the reed family are probably pretty close because they
shared a basketball court in the locker. Room together so

(25:36):
there's a lot of of those THINGS that i think going.
To IT but i love to see when our university as,
a whole especially the, athletics apartment joins in with the
community and brings smiles to. People's, Faces Jamestown russell county,
out there, well southwest.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
It doesn't make It any it doesn't make it any clear.
TO me i Don't know jamestown's at.

Speaker 7 (25:57):
NEVER mind i just wanted to we need to take
this show on the road, for you so you know
the counties and the.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
County SEATS ks R.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Does X when i LISTEN, TO ksr i always hear
them in. Some county it's always some.

Speaker 7 (26:09):
County, somewhere well we'll Go to nicholasville and that'll be
our summer.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Road, trip, no.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Anyways back to uh we're TALKING about I get i
didn't get a chance to ask You vad eyes when
we were talking ABOUT S g a And Before jack,
pilgrim LEFT and i know we talked about on our
podcast kind OF, about sga what he can accomplish and
him just Being A now nba M v p is
the FIRST of UK and uk has never HAD AN

(26:40):
Nba Mvp Most. Valuable player so for him to get
a championship and A, FINALS mvp i think.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
It would be one of the. Greatest things but where
does does? He rank? Can he can you move him?

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Up there when you talk, ABOUT grace i Think His,
Jack Givens, Jamal Mashburn, Anthony Davis. Sam buie is there
anybody else that you will put above sg if he
accomplishes that the trifecta of?

Speaker 2 (27:11):
The, lake.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
See for, for me this is this is there's a
lot more nuanced to this. For me are we talk
about what's? The Criteria because i'm not sure he can
surpass a lot of people for being, the best Most. Accomplished,
kentucky Yes, at kentucky he's not. Even close now he's
talking about. Post career that's hard for me because as

(27:36):
as what's talked about this Week with lebron and the
And the ring thing And How ring coulture all that.
Stuff is one thing about him is he is the
leader of. That team he is the engine of. That
team so for me As a kentucky player that IN
the nba he might be one of, the best because

(27:57):
how many Of all kentucky players have been the number
one option for their team on the.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
Next level so on the, NEXT level i think he's
ranked pretty.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
High IN the nba level For.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
Former, kentucky Players but kentucky players, on campus he's probably
not even. Top, twenty sheesh think, About.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
It, ANTHONY look i want people TO understand i Was
at kentucky during probably one of the. Best errors is
he Better Than ron mercer when.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
He was Playing.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
At kentucky he's Better, Than antoine he's Better Than. Derrick
HENDERSON like i can list these five or six guys yourself.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
For that one team off that.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
One era so for me to say five or six
and from ninety three to, NINETY seven i GUARANTEE you
i can come up with another ten.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
To fifteen.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
He wasn't HE.

Speaker 7 (28:48):
Wasn't covid he was he WAS before covid right twenty. Seventeen,
eighteen yes.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
You Know what.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
I'm saying I'M just, i mean is he Better Than
jamal murray when he?

Speaker 4 (29:03):
Was here was he better than the guy on? His
team was he Better Than cason wallace when he?

Speaker 5 (29:11):
Was here.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
He was asked to do? Something different That's what. I'm
saying But What i'm cason, was decent.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
But HE but sja did what he was supposed.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
To, Do no i'm, Just saying i'm Not Saying cason wilder.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
Is better but that's, a, Debate right that's a.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Legitimate debate someone, can, Say No caseon wallace has a
better career on CAMPUS, than Sja and i'll, Be, like
Okay But kaseon wallace will not have A better nba Career.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
Than shade and wouldn't even. Be close you Know what.
I'm saying so what's the criteria we're?

Speaker 3 (29:48):
Going WITH because i will, say this if if you're
basing off OF his, nba career he's got to.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
Be, top five.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Top five kentucky players IN, the nba right?

Speaker 4 (29:59):
For, sure yeah, for sure no doubt.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
About it based off of what you, go ahead Who's
Better dan issel than a d Then mash those are
the three that comes to mind.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Right away it, makes me it makes me bring up
this question and it and it's it's great because you
brought Up the lebron comment and if nobody no one
knows What the lebron. Comment was lebron's comment was he
would be to go with or without the rings BECAUSE
he's i guess he was taking a Jab At, Robert Orrie.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Derek fisher he.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Was not taking any jabs than, Anyone really but you
know it's the people who come off. The Bench Even
james posey has, three rings one as a, coach too
and which is a friend. Of mine AS why i
bring the, name up it may not be relevant to
a lot, of people but so it kind of brings
this question, To You. Van House Is tom brady not

(30:59):
the greatest quarterback missions?

Speaker 4 (31:00):
History?

Speaker 2 (31:01):
History no and what do you think the? Fan base
do you think the fan base will think that?

Speaker 3 (31:06):
Same, thing see that's that's where our fans are short.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
For fanatical it's.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
No way so, the greatest one of the great consider
maybe the greatest player ever to play football.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Is not there is not, the greatest is not the
greatest player in the in their.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
College's History When tom brady couldn't win a starting position
or a, Baseball, player yeah think, about that a freshman
baseball player. At that so how can? You GREASY is
A is a is a better Quarterback at Michigan Than tom?

Speaker 4 (31:42):
Brady was think. About it we're, talking About as, ai
said it's Talking, about, Michigan, Right.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Michigan, Michigan No tom brady is not the best Quarterback
in michigan History In. Ann arbor now he's the best
quarterback Post. In arbor, but no not even.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Close NOW and i think it goes TO because i
deal with our fan base and my family Are all
ohio state. Fan bases is that where do you draw
that we draw The separation and, As so michigan fans
are Going to michigan fans are going, to collect Just
like i'm only ROOTING for okc BECAUSE of sga, LIKE
otherwise i don't want.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
To See No oklahoma indiana championship.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Like THAT already i already knew it was going, to
BE but i HAVE someone i have a, rooting interest
and so now and just like things happen if and
this IS why i. Say this if if we have
a player go to a professional level From the University
of kentucky, FOOTBALL basketball i don't even know if we
keep up with our baseball players Like Even ryan howard and,
those people if they, Do good if they, do good

(32:50):
our fan base supports them, of it and there's they're one.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Of ours, they're beloved they've.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Never forgotten if they do not, do good say they
were great in college and they not. Do GOOD because
i Haven't Heard bennie snail's name in a, long TIME
but i always Bring Up bennie snail's name because when he,
left here he was up there in the Conversation With
moe Williams And, sonny, Collins right so had he played

(33:15):
ten years or maybe one A, league mvp then, you
know it may be a. Little DIFFERENT so i. DON'T
know i just thought that conversation was. PRETTY interesting i
do think that if he continues on the trajectory, he's
going because he scored thirty points the last THREE, years
sga that our fan base will probably start labeling at

(33:36):
some point that one of The greatest kentuckian's basketball. Players
ever but you broke it down pretty eloquently that are
you do you mean their time here or a player
that is, from here because if, you bust.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Then nobody really has anything to do.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
With, you Right and i'm gonna, Say this i'm sure
you're probably close.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
To break is that?

Speaker 3 (33:56):
This look that's also SOMETHING that i highly dislike about
college hall.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
Of fames because a lot of.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Players that get into The college Hall of fame of
their institution is based off of what they did. Post
college post college is not the college hall. Of fame
that's why there's Like A National basketball Hall, of fame
there's a Collegiate basketball Hall.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
Of fame you got to separate.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
The two because what we did on campus surpasses anything
that we did on the next level because it's your
college hall. OF fame i think that's something that needs
to be addressed to because there are, some Players One,
anthony white that should be in our college Hall of
fame that's probably been deemed a little bit BECAUSE of,

(34:46):
nfl success and it.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
Shouldn't matter it.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
Really SHOULDN'T so i want fans also administrations also think.
About that stop think about after, they left think about
their time and what they help to elevate the while
they were on.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
Your.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Campus period That Is van HOWES and i think He Meant.
Anthony davis we will continue this show after. This year
Listening To Stockyards bank sunday when It sports talk when
It was radio SIX.

Speaker 8 (35:10):
Thirty wlap This Is Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning sports talk
presented by the Lead Troop Borge radio network on SIX.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Thirty wlap Welcome Back Stockyards Bank sunday one Is. Sports
Talk I'm anthony white Along With van Howes Producer boul
robinson talking ALL things, uk sports no matter what level
of sports. It is we are TALKING all, uk sports.

Speaker 7 (35:42):
No matter what the. Year is and when we don't
KNOW when, covid happened.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
It is it is. Twenty.

Speaker 7 (35:49):
TWENTY man i Was telling anthony during, THE break, i
said because we were talking about this TIMELINE and, I
said sga played twenty. Seventeen Eighteen and, ANTHONY said i
don't even KNOW when covid WAS and i said. Twenty
twenty so if it didn't come across the air. Like
THAT when i said twenty, SEVENTEEN eighteen, i said, my
god we're.

Speaker 5 (36:06):
Getting old, we.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Are man all that stuff, runs together, it does and
sensitively and. Honestly sensitively it's why it runs together for
me because my aunt died passed AWAY from covid before they,
media wise before it became public or that they RECOGNIZED what.

(36:28):
Covid was she told and this was in, twenty eighteen
so she said she kept saying something about. Corona VIRUS
and i remember THAT because i, was like that, sounds
odd that's an.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Odd dame and.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Then after she passed away than a couple of, years
later they started announcing that we had to stay home
and all this. Other stuff so that's why it doesn't
go together, for ME because i already kind.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
OF knew i had heard about it prior.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
To it becoming the national a, National thing so that's kind.
Of WHY and i, DON'T mean i don't mean to
pull the rug from underneath you like a good a
good joke, or whatever, But no but that is why
it's confusing to ME because i was already introduced to
it before it became stay home and all that. Other

(37:12):
stuff and that's when we started doing the locker and THAT'S.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
What i need to go. Back to, oh wow.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
That, is right because we did were on a six
year to locker and we STARTED, during, covid.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
Right.

Speaker 7 (37:26):
That's crazy we've been Talking about sta and how good
he's been, this year and then we realized there was
twenty seventeen eighteen and As many kentucky basketball players that
have Come Through john caliperi and, you're, THINKING oh i
forgot that he played with, this PLAYER or i forgot about,
this player and then, YOU realize i don't even remember

(37:49):
so and so that's bad because maybe, They transferred like
who's The Kick, khalil whitney, you know other than when
that article came out a couple of weeks ago about
how he just really needed a Hug and i'm Not
knocking khalil whatsoever on his struggles things. Like that it's
kind of eye opening where, you, thought, oh yeah he

(38:09):
Was at kentucky and how everything just has been running
together over the last.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Few, years now now you just took me back because
we're all around the, same age we're all probably three
hundred and sixty five days within each. Other's range and
it just made me do You've Realized anthony davis has
been out of college?

Speaker 4 (38:32):
Thirteen years.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
How About?

Speaker 7 (38:36):
John wall that's a Part of caliperry's.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
First team yah Boogie Was john wall fifteen, Years, man.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
Yeah That's.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
OLD first i first showed up at college thirty. Years Ago,
VAN house i met you.

Speaker 4 (38:55):
Years, ago father SAY that i graduated high school with thirty.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Years ago now that don't, surprise me because you you've
been had a great bed for.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
A while i just got. MY grip i just earned mine.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
Right, right, right right.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Right right we gotta get to. A, Break fan, we're,
gonna okay we're gonna talk a.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Little football there's a little couple of things.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
GOING on i think we got a renewed interest after,
you know the things that went on the past week.
Or so we've covered a whole lot. Of basketball we
Talked About. Kenny brooks We Gave. Kenny brooks it's. Just
due now let's See What mark stoops those guys got.
Going on join the show eight five nine to eight
zero two two eight seven eight five nine to Eight.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Zero cats we will be back after.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
This year listening To Sock Yards bank sunday morning sports
talk on news radio SIX thirty wlap
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