Sunday Morning Sports Talk - June 1, 2025 - Hour 1

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the home of the Wildcats. Six thirty wlap
Welcome in Stockyards Bank, Sunday Morning Sports Talk.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'm Anthony White, along.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
With the usual suspects, Jack Pilgrim and Larry Vatt, coming
to you from Clark's Main Street Market Studios and beautiful
downtown Lexing and Lexington, Kentucky. Return refresh every fuel.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Guys. I've had a night like I haven't had it
a long time.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
So you guys gonna have to hold me down today
because I ain't feeling the best. Did some things I
shouldn't have done, did a whole lot of things I
shouldn't have done. And Jack Pilgrim, I'm not your age,
but I acted like I was your age, and I
was happy always coming back.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
How was your weekend, Jack Pilgrim? It is good. It's
beautiful outside.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
First time getting to enjoy the sunshine. My family has
a pool in their backyard, so we spent all spring
getting swimming lessons for a little man and kind of
put them to the test yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
And I did did some.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Swimming that hung out with Mom and and you know
that side of the family last night for a dinner.
So it's been a very nice just relaxing, enjoying the
kind of turn this summer weekend. So unfortunately not uh
not feeling the way you or I guess fortunately not
feeling the way you are. But it's unfortunate you are

(01:30):
feeling the way you are, So I'm sorry to hear that, Anthony.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
I don't want to start any problems in the house.
But isn't your wife's family your family, so you don't
have to preface it by saying my wife's family.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
Well, when you are, then then have to say, well,
my like my side, my wife's side of the.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Family, then my side of the family. You know, when
you're when you're doing.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
Multiple stops, you gotta specify. But now we're all one,
one very happy family.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Larry Vaught, Are there two different size of a family
when you holy matrimony?

Speaker 5 (02:02):
Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Oh I didn't know that. That's why I'm not inhabit
holy matrimony. How was your week?

Speaker 5 (02:09):
Yeah, there's day good. I'm feeling pretty down, but not
for the same reasons as you. I was pretty heavily
involved with the Great American Race Band Festival here in
Danville this week, So between Thursday and Saturday, I think
I spent I was trying to count. I think thirty
nine hours or something forty hours down there helping do things.

(02:30):
So my butt's dray.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
What do you may you feeling down? I thought you
loved doing that. You love giving back to the community.

Speaker 5 (02:38):
I do, but I may have given back more than
my body had in it.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
How did it fair though?

Speaker 6 (02:47):
How did it fair? Though?

Speaker 3 (02:48):
It wasn't It wasn't extremely rainy Thursday and Friday.

Speaker 5 (02:53):
Or Thursday manageable, not unmanageable. Thursday we had a little
bit of rain, and Friday Friday morning it rained. The
time our festival got going, we were in pretty good shape.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Okay, Well, I got good news for you though, because
I know I see Jack Pilgrim has turned itself a
little bit to football. I know you call this a
football state, but I got Van Hys coming on at
eleven o'clock with us to talk a little bit.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
About the state of UK football.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
He may make you feel a whole well, a little
bit better and listeners a little bit better about what's
going on. And I saw Jack reporting this week and
the comments Mark Stupid has made about this upcoming season,
that and his expectation and the changes, and I think
it gives you I'm not. It's nothing to jump up
and down about. I don't think people are rushing to

(03:41):
the ticketmaster or anything. But I do think it gives
you a little bit of okay, because I think there
were some people who were concerned that maybe we thrown
the tie in on football and we were just gonna
ride this contract out and just take what we get,
considering our offensive line coach got a raise. And I'll

(04:02):
start there because oh way is big al Way returning
is big business. But I do want to get some
football talk in because I'm concerned about our football team,
and I know the state of Kentucky is concerned about
our football team.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
I got faith in them. Do I expect us to
win six games this year? Now?

Speaker 3 (04:20):
But do I expect us to put out a good
product and get back to the old blue collar ways. Yeah,
and that may or may not start. We're given our
office line coach one hundred thousand dollars raised, Jack Pilgrim.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
But that's what happened this week.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
Yeah, that did technically happen, and it was a very
polarizing decision. The fan base reacted to it exactly the
way I expected them to react to it. Yeah, I
don't take a whole lot from that, because I think
when you're in this business, it's kind of a if
you fail miserably, you get fired, and it's dramatic, know

(05:00):
kind of you know, a dramatic breakup, and if you're retained,
it almost always ends in a raise. Like it's you
you're either moving forward or falling backward. There's no real
kind of staying the same in this business. So it
doesn't really shock me that there's kind of one of those,
you know, built in raises, and and he got that
built in race, so it wasn't necessarily that.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
But I think the bigger takeaways I've.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
Watched that All s All Access Spring kind of meeting
thing that was on SEC Network where Stoop sat.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Down with Randall Cobb.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
We got some kind of behind the scenes looks at Springball,
and you know, Bush Hampden talked, we got some Brad
White talk and you know, I think there's no delusion
in that building about the challenge they have ahead and
you know what what last year was and how they
had to fix it and how difficult of a fixed

(05:57):
it fix it was. So to hear the it from
their own mouths, you know, and sit down with Randall
Cobb and just kind of one offs with the two coordinators.
You kind of got a sense it like, hey, we're
not here necessarily to, you know, tell you how we're going.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
To fix things and run our mouths all off season.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
Why we haven't heard a lot from Stoops, why we
haven't heard a lot from the coordinators, where it's just
you know, we're we're here to take care of business
and you know, kind of establish some accountability in this
locker room and get back to, like you said, the
blue collar ways that clearly was missing last season. So
it was a lot of kind of show me, don't
tell me in that all access that I think I

(06:36):
appreciated and I agree with you it's going to be better.
But how much better, I think is what you know,
what is up to them to decide.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
But I do think they're going to be better.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Larry Vaux, what was your h I guess you're following
even your personal opinion about them actually going through.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
As Jack said, the one hundred thousand.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Dollars raised for which puts our offensive line coach at
about nine hundred thousand dollars a year almost a million
dollars a year. Up there almost where coordinators are paid.
Were coordinators compensated for for what we've seen? And now
leave no mistake, there leave no discussion.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Larry Vault that.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Is a good friend of Mark Mark stoops. So I
don't know if it's a friendly raids or as Jack said,
it's just business as usual. How did your people feeling?
How do you feel about that?

Speaker 5 (07:39):
Well? I don't know what prompted it. I just know
And it seems to me like maybe you and Jack
would disagree. But if you wanted to make the most
horrible pr move you could make in the off season
to infuriate Kentucky fans, it would be to give the
coach of the of the group that seemed to be
criticized more than any other group last year, to give

(08:03):
that person a raise and not give and and just
I mean and really not try to explain it. I mean,
I just don't see any way that that was merited.
And I think that's just I don't get it. It's
just a way. I think it's kind of a slapping
the fan. The most are slapping the face of most
UK fans. And based on the people that I talked

(08:25):
to and correspond with, and it messaged me and so
forth like that. I've not seen one person that thought
it was a good idea. Again, that's a I know
that's a small percentage, But in my little world, I've
seen nobody that's tew that was a good move. In fact,
I've had a lot to suggest it should have gone
the other way and taken away two hundred thousands.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Yeah, and that I think that would cate. That's what catapaulted.

Speaker 6 (08:50):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
I think Jim Harbaugh at Michigan to change his when
he gave up half of his salary when he gave
up half of his salary to h or not have,
but it gave him a portion of the salary to
maintain his head coaching job and it turned around. So
Jack Pilgrim, I did want to follow up on Larry said,

(09:12):
as far as you seem to think it was just
a yearly something that should have happened, maybe in the
spending of our program has been in question because the
contract and the money that Mark Stups has kind of
seems to be a question. And that's why he's asked

(09:32):
people what Mark Steups has accomplished here is nobody has
accomplished what these accomplished here. So the fact that he's
paid nine million dollars, is that the problem or is
it the problem that we had a four and eight season,
because he's accomplished more than anybody's accomplished. Now, mind you,
the nine million dollars put them up there with coaches
who's been in the tournament or the playoffs, who's been

(09:56):
in their conference championships, Who's I've been in the top
ten throughout the season, Like he's in uncharted territories as
far as where his salary is. But what he's done
for the university is well beyond anything every anybody else
has done here. So and I know Brooks was beloved,
and I love Brooks as well, but he's exceeded what

(10:17):
Brooks has done. So I wanted Larry kind of sounds
as if they thought it was a bad decision. You
kind of sound like it was a business decision in
his business as usual. I did kind of want to
find the other side in Van. In one van we
have Van on me and Van talked about this Wednesday.
But the other side of it is, and I do
not believe this at all, but it is in the

(10:39):
back of my mind, Jack Pilgrim, is that a concession
are we conceding that you know what, look, I see
the writings on the wall. Let's just get everybody paid,
and let's just let's just get up out of here.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
I will be honest.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
That was a conversation that I have had with you know,
some of my friends and then, you know, in passing
when they asked how how could something like this happen?
It is one of the things that kind of crosses
your mind where it's like, you know, hey, I'm just
gonna get my buddies paid, and you know, we're cashing
in on for the last, you know, last hurrah and
you know, sailing off into the sunset, and maybe it

(11:22):
is I don't know, I'm trying to look. I will
freely admit I've been the Debbie Downer of Kentucky football
on this show the last couple of years, and you know,
I'm usually the one to you know, never give him
the benefit of the doubt, the staff the benefit of
the doubt. So I feel like I'm just trying, like, hey, okay,
everybody in the room acknowledges we're at rock bottom right

(11:43):
now and we're grasping at anything positive to kind of
hang on to. And you know, I guess you could
say that, you know, the Wolford's portal class was was
positive and he pulled in some talent at some key
positions and that was a you know, kind of minimal
reward for you know, hopefully for a long term payoff

(12:05):
to I don't know. I'm I'm right there with a
lot of BBN, just you know, trying to say what
I can to get us to football season and hope
for the best, because I think that's kind of where
we all are at this stage. And yes, it wasn't
a great PR move, especially right now, to come out
when it did. And how much of a massively positive

(12:25):
PR move it was. When Jim Harball went through his
one year blip or whatever if we've been calling this
and you know, took the pay cut and then responded
in the way that he did, I think it was
admirable and this is kind of the opposite of that.
But I don't know, I really don't have the answers,
but I guess that's the best I could come up with.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
That is Jack Pilgrim and our Kentucky Batcats will be
clawing their way trying to get back into the regional
The winner side of the bracket, which bo Is gonna
have to explain to me because he's in. There's like
a loser side, winner side. You go to the regionals
and there's super regionals. But our back cast will play
at twelve o'clock today, so we will only be on
to eleven forty, so do not leave your radio.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Stay on your radio.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
If you want to call in eight five to nine
to eight zero two to eight seven eight five nine
to eight zero Cats.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
We will be back after this.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
You are listening to Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk
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Speaker 1 (13:22):
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(13:44):
your banking and financial needs.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
I gotta get my voice together. Excuse me, sorry, some
third spray. I need something, man, I got some if
you need it, Hello, Tabasco Saal sent it. But it'll
help you out. I will tell you though, bot the
the throat problems as not because of my my long
weekend and my rough Saturday is more because of the

(14:08):
the allergies.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
This is allergy season.

Speaker 7 (14:10):
It's horrible.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah, So that's where that's coming from.

Speaker 7 (14:13):
Between the allergies and the cicadas. I've had enough. I
haven't seen any cicado. No, I don't have any cicadas
on my side of town. But it's Alumni from what
I can hear, Alumni Road, Tates Creek, Richmond Road. They're
really bad over there. It sounds like a really loud
weed eater constantly going. But on this side of town,

(14:34):
downtown and kind of on the north side of town too,
I don't hear.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Any No, I haven't That's what I'm saying. This year
or thus far, I haven't heard any. So but I
have my eyes and my throat will let me know
that it is allergy.

Speaker 5 (14:49):
See.

Speaker 7 (14:50):
But if you turn up enough Sunday morning sports talk
on the iHeart radio app, it will drown out the
sounds of the cicadas.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Absolutely. Man, one man, bo pitch right. Larry Vaught, we
were talking about UK football. We were talking about Mark
Stoops and I support Mark Stoops. I really I like him,
mostly because he's from Ohio, and he's hired Ohio guys,
and he's done things here that hasn't been done ever.

(15:21):
He's raised the expectation, and this is my concern. He's
raised the expectation of the state and the program to
the point where people are disappointed, which you should be
disappointed with the foreign eight season, that absolutely should be disappointed.
But he's raised the expectation where I'm not sure if

(15:41):
I agree with or not that now, if you only
win five or six games this year, if he wins
five or six games this year, I think he deserves
another raise.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
I don't know how you feel about that.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
But he's raised the expectation where people are looking to
jump ship from the program because we are accustomed or
expecting to win eight to ten games every year or
every two or three years, and that has never been
the expectation. Larry, you've been you followed this program for
I don't know, seventy years, sixty seventy years. I don't

(16:14):
know if you started when you were a kid or not.
But I'm but he's raised the expectation at that point,
which is great. But the whole idea that I'm jumping
ship if they don't do x y Z. If he
wins five or six games, he deserves a raise. Am
I wrong in thinking that?

Speaker 6 (16:33):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (16:33):
No, I don't think he maybe deserves a raise if
he wins five or six. I think he's been pretty
well compensated for the last couple of years. I think
it would be great to see him win six and
you pat him on the back and say, really, good job,
and now you're earning that money we're giving you.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Well, no, hold on, let me ask you this. So
maybe he doesn't deserve a raise, but you're saying you
pat him on the back. And this one thing I
do not like about our fan base, even as a
player and even as a media what I don't like
about our fan base is well, they're mad at him.
If he wins six games. That's our expectation. That was

(17:11):
our expectation from even taking this job, with the attrition
he's had in the turnover he's had. Winning six games,
I'm just saying he deserves a raise because I don't
expect them to win five games. Larry Vauk, I'll be
honest with you, I don't expect them to win five.
If he wins six, he exceeds my expectation. And I
think my viewpoint is better than the fan base's viewpoint.

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So no, he doesn't deserve it. No, you can't go back.
You can't kick me around, Larry Vauk. Then when I
win the fight, my supporters or naysayers come back. Oh
you know, no, if you didn't support me, why not
when the chips were down on You can't just jump
in and support me because I've exceeded the expectation and

(17:53):
six wins, see any expectations, Larry vaud.

Speaker 5 (17:57):
I think Kentucky did support it. They gave him nine million.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Year Kentucky did that was that was Barnhard And we're
talking about we're talking about the fan base, the butts
in the.

Speaker 5 (18:07):
Seats, but Barnhart gets his money from the fan base.
So I mean, I think with what you're saying, if
we use that logic, and Jack uc how you follow
a lawyer. If we want to use that logic, if
he exceeds expectations this year, you give a little bit
more money. Well, since he didn't exceed expectations last year,
let's cut nine in meion down to six me and

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because he was way under expectation.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
I can agree with that. Jack Pilgrim I'm gonna let you.
I'm gonna let you respond to that when we come back,
but we do have a break. I can't agree with that,
Larry Vall, I can agree, and that's why I brought
to Jim Harbaugh thing like, if he wants to make
the fan base happy, then maybe give some of the
money back until you get back to where you were.
But also on this side of the conversation with saying

(18:53):
that if you expect him to fail this year and
he does not fail, then I think he should be compass.
Say maybe not, maybe not financially, but support wise. Keep
the button in the seats. We will be back after this.
You're listening to Stockyards Bank Sunday Wanting Sports Talk on
news radio six thirty WLAP.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
This is the home of the Wildcats, six thirty WLAP.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony White,
Anthony D.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
White. I should say I'm changing it from now. Anthony D.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
White, along with Larry Vaught and Jack Pilgrim. This hour
Sunday Morning Sports Talk is brought to you by Country
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my headache this morning. But we are enjoying this conversation.
We're talking about the state of UK football.

Speaker 7 (19:39):
Hang on, I know what you did last night.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Quit telling me that.

Speaker 7 (19:43):
Man, I know exactly what you did last night.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
It's creepy if you do. But go ahead.

Speaker 7 (19:48):
You went to Railbird to see the Shaboozie over at
the Red Mile last night. That's what you did, right, Huh?

Speaker 5 (19:55):
No?

Speaker 2 (19:55):
I did not, Okay, So I would have enjoy Real Bird.
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (20:00):
I've never been before, but they've got acts here and
there that I think I would enjoy. But the big
one last night was Shaboozi.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Do you know who Shabooz is? Yeah, Larry vaugh Do
you know who Shabooz is?

Speaker 5 (20:13):
Do I know who Shaboozi is? Yes? Because I've heard
you talk before and I've seen some news headlines. What
I recognize a song? No, way, Jose, I.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Don't know who Shaboozy is. You haven't heard me talk
about Shaboozy. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (20:30):
I don't know. Maybe maybe it's my grandson.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
So you heard the name before.

Speaker 5 (20:34):
I just feared it was you.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
No, it was not me, Jack Pilgrim. You know who
Shabooze is?

Speaker 4 (20:40):
I do, But I've never said his name on this show,
so Larry, Larry must must be hearing things.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Larry did what I did yesterday, then apparently, no.

Speaker 5 (20:53):
I didn't do what you did. I've worked. They put
my butt in the pepsi wagon, and I had my
grandson there, and then's some volunteers. But I butt was
pretty well confined to one spot at the Great American
Braans Band festivals, selling pepsi products, taking orders from my
grandson because he was really good at organizing what we
were doing, and I didn't. I didn't move out of

(21:16):
that pepsi wagon very much. So No, I did not
have anything stronger than a died mountain dew.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
And that may have been a shameless plug. I'm not
certain or not, but Perhepsy, if you did hear Larry
Vaught say your name several times this show, go and
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for three minutes a segment because we have so many
dog On sponsors. But I love you all so but
everybody's like, you got a sponsor every five minutes. Yeah,

(21:42):
because everybody knows everybody's listening. They want to sponsor with
us Jack Larry Vaught.

Speaker 5 (21:49):
Yeah, the more sponsors, the better.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
We love them, and really quickly bow before I get
back to the phone lines eight five nine two eight
zero two two eight seven eight five nine to a
zero catch.

Speaker 7 (22:01):
Who is Shaboozi Chaboozie is he's considered country I guess
among the younger generation of country fans. That song I
was just playing. That's been like, I don't know, the
big song over the last year by Chaboozi. It's called
a bar song. He headlined along with Laney Wilson last
night at Railbird at the Red Mile. That's the only

(22:25):
Shaboozi song I know. Oh but he's been on like
the CMA Awards and oh really yeah yeah. I mean,
like I said, he's big with the younger generation.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
Okay, but Jack Pilgrim is a younger generation and he
kind of knows of him. But I don't think Jack
Pilgrim has a rotation on this playlist.

Speaker 6 (22:47):
I do not.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
He's cool.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
I think I saw him on the cover of my
Mom's House, the cover of People magazine.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Is a hot.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
Guy Summer, I think was how they described him. So
it's not necessarily up my alley.

Speaker 6 (23:01):
Anthony.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
I'm I'm not into the you know, the music is fine,
it's fine, but that's that's what he's being promoted as.

Speaker 6 (23:10):
You know.

Speaker 7 (23:11):
However, I do want to say this about Railbird because
I believe and I'm not necessarily a fan of this man,
but I would be if I saw him at jeff
Donuts on Broadway. If jelly Roll is at jeff Donuts
after his set tonight, then he's won me over.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
Because social media says the jelly Roll is popular. So yes,
social media dictates you. You my age, So you being
you being, You're not a millennial.

Speaker 7 (23:39):
No, But when you work in radio and you follow
the concert industry and you follow the popular trends, even
though I'm not into Shaboozie or jelly Roll, it's hard
to ignore what's going on in pop culture and what's
going on in the music charts and the concert industry.
So I know a lot more than what I let
on here on Sunday Morning Sports Talk. But I want

(24:00):
to see jelly Roll at Jeff's Donuts.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
I'm a I'm an athlete, and I'm not enamored with
Tom Brady or Tim Couch like they are just regular
people to me. They're just like a Larry Vault, a
Jack Pig or Bo Robinson to me. So I don't
I wouldn't be excited. Do you say you're excited about
Jelly Row? Because where I got to move back to
where we were talking about Row.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
I like, oh my god, Anthony, did you just compare
me to Tom Brady?

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Do you put me in Tom Brady in the same thing?

Speaker 4 (24:28):
That is the best compliment I've ever gotten in my life, Bud.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
Something like that, something like that. And you are you
are my Tom Brady, Jack Piopley.

Speaker 5 (24:39):
I will tell you. I will tell you, Anthony. We've
got another former UK football player trying to make the
call to get to talk to you. I think it's
gonna get your head spinning this morning.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
So they're they're going to get on the phone line too.

Speaker 5 (24:53):
Yeah, they're trying to get in there.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Okay, all right, Well they're they're lit up.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
But I want to get I want to get this
topic out of the way, and we we're gonna be
phone lining from here on out until baseball comes up.
But I do want to Jack Pilgrim. Before we went
to break, I did ask Larry Vaughan. I just want
to get your take and as a player, and you do,
you're really good at media if you beat up. If
people saying, well, he doesn't deserve a scholarship, or are

(25:17):
you talking about the NBA or something.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
This play should be cut. If that player turns.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
His game around and he exceeds your expectation, I think
he should be compensated. But I was kind of being
facetious when I said that. But there's a point where
if you beat a player up, a coach a program,
and they turn it around AI Michigan, then they deserve
like media does that all the time, beat a pushing up,

(25:44):
beat the person up, and when they exceed the expectation,
they never have to apologize. Just like I said, if
a referee makes a bad call in football, are back
they should put a mic in their face nation and
say hey, you know I dropped. I think the players
and the fans will feel a whole lot better if
the ref could step up and say, you know what,
I the ball on that call. So the fact that
I expect UK football if they win five games, I

(26:07):
would be okay. If they win six, I will be impressed.
And you guys are saying that a lot of people
don't expect them to win six. I don't really either,
but if they do, then I think that deserves to
be applauded, maybe give an extension, maybe given a raise,
or at least given an apology from the fan base.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Jack pillll Ah, Yes, I'm sorry for.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
Holding holding a coach accountable for being a top ten
paid coach in college football, and we're being rewarded for
raising the standard of what it means to be the
head coach of the University of Kentucky, because when he
took the job to begin with, the standard was unbelievably low.
He was rewarded for raising to the standard to what

(26:56):
it is today, to where when we win, when we
win four games and morales at an all time low,
and we then say, hey, what happened to the standard
that you supposedly set. I'm not going to then over
go above and beyond to then reward him to get
back to what the goal was day one. I mean,

(27:17):
he had the worst season coaching at Kentucky since he
first got here in twenty thirteen. I mean, it was
the war since the two win season, and now we're
going back to twenty thirteen and saying, hey, let's just
get to six wins. Let's just fight for six wins,
and if he does that, let's tack on more extension
years and more money. Now he gets paid enough, he

(27:39):
has plenty of years on his contract. I will be
thrilled with a six win season, but it will be like, hey,
thanks for getting this program back to what the standard
was that you set to get to the money that
you're making today. So no, I will not be I mean,
it's not my money, but I would not advocate for
any extension years or any extension as a result of

(28:01):
getting back to a very average season at best.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
No argument is here.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
But let's see what the big Ass Fans hotline has
for us again, if you would like to join the
Big Ass Fans highline eight five to nine to eight
zero two to eight seven eight five nine to eight zero.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Cat David, good morning, What do you got for us?

Speaker 6 (28:21):
How about an Anthony Larry good to hear from you
all this morning? Anthony, you you've stirred the pot.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Brother, ah man, I heard the pot. I shouldn't call
you David. I recognize you as Dave.

Speaker 6 (28:33):
Yeah, that's hey, I know, and the whole big blue
nation world recognizes Dave instead of David. But anyway, we
raised the expectation back in nineteen seventy six and seventy seven.
You know, we we set the standard. That was the
goal from there on out and and nothing short. And

(28:53):
Larry's heard me say this hundreds of times. The expectation
to me was always a national championship. We wanted to
win a national championship. Now I just want to win
an SEC championship because that will make us a winner
in the se and in the national championship. You know, Yes,
he's paid enough to be a top ten. Well, put,

(29:18):
that's that's that's where we are. I'm sorry, it's it's
it's time. If if we can't get in the top ten,
if we can't being in contention for a national championship,
it's time for change. Period. I appreciate what he's done,
what Mark has done, and I'm grateful that the expectation

(29:39):
was raised like that, but can he can we take
it further? We've got to take it further. We've got
to take it further. You know, I'm getting too old
myself now to to just want to sit by and say, yes,
I'm happy with five wins, six wins. I've never been
happy with five or six wins. Anthony, As a player,

(30:00):
what was your goal? What did you want?

Speaker 3 (30:03):
Eleven wins? Back then there and there was only eleven games?

Speaker 6 (30:06):
Man, how many? Okay, how many did you play?

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Eleven? Twelve?

Speaker 6 (30:11):
There you go? Game? Okay, Okay, we're if we if
we won twelve on a regular season, where would we be?
That's my point. That's my point. That's my point. We
would be in contention for a national championship. We would
be playing in the aftermath of a season that had
been a wonderful season, you know, playing Florida, Georgia, Auburn, Tennessee, Texas. Yes,

(30:36):
oh men, how exciting would that be? Don't you? Don't you?
And and you know? And and to say we can't.
We don't have the money to buy somebody out, We
don't have enough money. What would hurt is to keep it?
You know? I remember when Nick Saban was hired at
the University of Alabama, and people gasped at how much

(30:58):
money they had paid him them And within six months
there a fund doubled their income, doubled it in six months.
And he hadn't done anything, had never played a game yet,
but the expectation was changed and look what happened. You know,
that's what we get kN Kentucky have it. Absolutely. We

(31:19):
sit right in the middle of our northern friends and
our southern friends. We're still in the best conference in
the nation. Oscar Combs, if you're listening, we don't want
to go anywhere else. This is where we are. And
when we do this, we are gonna be national chimps
and we will walk around so happy and proud and

(31:40):
and just doing everything. Now now that I've gotten some
of this off my chest, I was just getting ready
to I was just getting ready to walk in the
big house. I want y'all to pray for me because
y'all need to practice and I certainly need the prayers.
And my blood pressure is gonna go down as soon
as I walk out of here. And now that I've
gotten this off my chest. But you you you right,

(32:03):
you did. You did stir the pot this morning, brother,
And I appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
I really do, hope man. You know, I love you, man.
I appreciate your call man always, I really do.

Speaker 6 (32:14):
I love you. I love listening to you all. I
appreciate it. I thank you all for carrying the torch. Larry,
don't let him off the hook on this brother, y'all,
stay on him. We've got you know, I'm gonna step
out and I won't get to listen to the rest
of this, but stay on him. He has got to chay.
You know, we got to have a championship here before

(32:36):
I pass away, which you know, good Lord knows how
long that might be. But uh, it's just we've got it.
We got to do it. We sit in the best conference,
in the best seat. Kids from the North want to
come to us, kids from the South want to come
to us. We got a great place. This election in
Kentucky is We're a hub man. This is it. This

(32:58):
is it.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Hey, love you all appreciate the call. Dave, Larry and Roy.
Hold on.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
I don't want to put you up against the heartbreak.
So I'm going to take a break now and I'll
get you when we come back. Otherwise you will be
up against a breaking and you have a short time.
We will be back after this year. Listening to Stockyards
Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk on news Radio six thirty WLAP.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
This is the home of the Wildcats, six thirty w LAP.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk, I'm Anthony
White along with Jack Pipperman Larry Vault. We're gonna head
right on over to the Big Ass Fans Hotline and
see what Larry has say.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Good morning, Larry, what do you got for us?

Speaker 6 (33:37):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (33:37):
You guys, I'm on, Yes, you.

Speaker 8 (33:39):
Are hey, And you know I've talked to you over
the years, for how many years?

Speaker 6 (33:46):
Over years?

Speaker 8 (33:47):
And you know you and your hoster and also Larry Vault.
I think he exists. He may be hey, I maybe
I don't know the reason why I'm saying this. I
went to the Big Brass Festival and I went up
for about six point thirty and I went to the

(34:07):
Pepsi Boo and this young girl was in there and
I said, Larry Vault, I don't know him. And I said,
was here anybody here? For two young girls are here
before I came. So I waited around, watched land. It's nice.
I stay around that big fire pop big fire plane
that got in the center and listened to music. And
now I looked around and ask different people. Some didn't

(34:30):
know Larry, but a lot of them did you know?
And I talked to one guy and he said, yeah,
he's a friend. I came to a guy's name. I said,
I'd like to meet the guy. I've been talked to
him all these years. Never meet him, I said, after
you'd be here. He says number here, So anyway, I
guess he exists. I talked to this man for year,
and you know, and I was really disappointed. I went

(34:51):
home and I was like some walks, you know. I
came up there really just to meet Larry, but I
also enjoyed the music. That first group was really good,
but very disappointed.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
Well, well, now Larry does exist, I will say that.
And I'm surprised. I thought you and Larry were big
buddies the way you always reference him, and I will you.

Speaker 5 (35:15):
So was it?

Speaker 8 (35:16):
Yeahry, I never met Larry personally.

Speaker 5 (35:19):
I went on Thursday night or Saturday.

Speaker 6 (35:22):
Thursday?

Speaker 5 (35:23):
Okay that Thursday was that was downtown? That wasn't right? Yeah,
I was not there Thursday. I worked all day. I
set the stage up all day and everything on Thursday.
So I got the night off on Thursday night because
I had to be back at eight o'clock on Friday
morning to work the full day. So I was not
there Thursday night. You are right. I was there all
day Thursday, not Thursday night, but all day Friday, all

(35:45):
day Friday night, a day Saturday, all day Saturday night.
So sorry, well.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
You didn't make a mischief.

Speaker 8 (35:51):
You didn't make it. Yeah, well you didn't make it
clear when you said I went to Pet's boothy. That's
where I went, and that first booth is actually there,
and man, you know it is not I en Georgia
if I didn't really, but I was, I you know, like
I say, I went to Pets Boots is one of
the third boots that had wheels actually you know them
traders that got there, and I was sudden there. You know.

(36:12):
Course the other day you said I would be at
the Big Band Festival and Big Brass Festival and then
I'll be at Pimps Boots. That's what you say if
you need to play what days? So uh anyway, I'm
just messed with Larry and I But no kidding, I
would have liked met people at you you know you talked,
because I've seen Anthony one time at the distance when
I was at the Football complex when it had to

(36:32):
uh you know four the staves started there and he
walked across her and I wouldn't for sure it was
anthem that somebody told me it was time. So you know,
sometime you talk to people over the years, and you
you like you see the faces on them on the
magazine or see them on TV, sometime on the podcast,
and and you know you always said, you know, I'd
like to meet a guy in person sometimes and just
talk to him, you know. But anyway, Larry, maybe one

(36:55):
of these days, you know, I'll get to meet you.
He kind of ghost me. I guess the faith.

Speaker 5 (37:03):
We'll see Thursday nights. I technically part of the Brass
Band Festival. It's one of our down It's a downtown
down beat type things. So I can see where you'll.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Be confused, Larry.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
I appreciate the call, and uh, Larry inbox us on
Twitter or Facebook. If you got to in the box
the show account. We'll set up you getting to meet
Larry because he's had a lot of events. I will personally,
I thought you guys were friends. We will personally set
that up and we'll take a picture with you.

Speaker 6 (37:34):
Larry.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
I'm we're gonna do that.

Speaker 6 (37:35):
Roy.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
I'm sorry, I did not know that Larry didn't know Larry.
So we got to wait one more segment and if
you will hold through the break. We're definitely gonna get
you first thing.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
We come back.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
We will be back after this. You're listening to Stockyards
Bank Sunday morning sports talk on news radio six thirty
WLAP