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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the home of the Wildcats. Six thirty WLAP
Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Stockyards Bank, Sunday morning sports Stalk from Anthony D. White
along with Larry Vaught and Jack Pilgrim, coming to you
from Clark's Main Street Market studios and beautiful downtown like
Stick Kentucky.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
The weather it's changing here. There was great clouds a
little while ago.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Now it's partially cloudy but clear, kind of a little
bit of both. I don't know if those are cumula,
nimbus or serious clouds up there, but it's the overcast
has left, but it looks like a out yonder. It
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a zero Cats to join the show. Larry Vaught, I
did look up robes or Nikki and were you familiar
with him from Chesterton, Indiana? Were you familiar with him
before before Frank brought him up? Which was a great call.
Thank you for calling in, Frank.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
No. I was hoping to tell Frank to send me
some information to contact him so I could learn more
about him, soph he is still listening. Reach out to
me in some way, right, I can give me a
contact way to get in touch with you.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Uh yeah, Frank, if you are listening, could you call
You can call back in the same number you called
and get with BO and drop your information off. Or
you can in box if you're on x, Twitter or
any of those things, you can in box.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Larry Vault at vos work Magic can help me. Yeah. Yeah,
Bo may have his number. I don't know if he
can just be giving you a number. I don't like
my numbering gave out.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Oh we're not supposed to keep giving your number. I
didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
No, why do you think I have several numbers? Somebody
gave my number. Our people always say why you don't
give out this number. I've had my phone number, my
personal phone number on half like twenty five years, never
had a change it, never really had no problems. And
now I give somebody really close to me my number
and they add me to a group chat or or someone,
and I'm like, why is this person texting me on
(02:08):
this number? So I don't even respond. So if you
called me on my personal number and I didn't give
you my personal number. I'm not gonna respond to it,
Larry Vought, So do not give my number to anybody
without asking for permission. How many times have you asked
me for someone's number and I have to get back
with you.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
A few times.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I don't just give out my number you, my boy.
I don't just give out somebody's number to you, because
I don't want my number just being given out.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
I don't think I've ever given you a number out.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
I never will.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I don't think you do.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
But you just made a comment as if you would like, yeah,
someone wants your number, anth now I'll give it out,
which I don't think you would anyways. So Frank, you
can also if you're on social media, reach Larry Vaught
avas Views if you want to end box him or something.
But the simplest way it's probably called bow back or
tweet the show, Facebook the show and Bob Dmison on
(03:04):
the Facebook, and you can drop that information off to us.
Let's get back to what we were talking about, and
the next topic we had that we were going to discuss,
Jack Pilgrim, was the revenue sharing that has come down
the it's come down the pike that that is going
to be there are now athletes are now employees of
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the university. They're no longer student student athletes. They are
employees of the university that have their school paid for,
but they are paid to play a sport.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Are you aware of that, Jack.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
Pilgrim, Oh yeah, I think you'd have to be living
under a rock at this point if you haven't been
caught up in the chaos and the madness of it.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
The news dropped very conveniently at like nine to eighteen
PM on a Friday that the settlement had been approved.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
So it's like, yeah, go figure.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
We were at the Kentucky Indian All Star Game when
the news dropped, and Zach, who met my coworker.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Who was with me had the night shift, and was like, oh, yeah,
go figure.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
I have to, you know, pump out an article on
the biggest news update of the entire summer that we've
seen in years come down to Pike at the middle
of the night on a Friday.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
I say, go figure.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
But we got an update from from Mitch Marnhart and
kind of he released Q and a kind of frequently
asked questions FAQ about just what it means where Kentucky stands,
how it's going to impact each individual sport, you know,
some of the like you know, you don't have to
opt in if you don't want to. You know, how
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does each sport get separated amongst you know, football, basketball,
you know, men's basketball, women's basketball, baseball, all the way
down to you know, some of the Olympic sports. So,
you know, I think those decisions are going to be
made over the next couple of weeks. You know, Kentucky
just in a really unique spot because of the value
of the men's basketball program. Most of the other you
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know sports across you know, the power forward schools are
doing kind of a just a base seventy five percent
going to football, fifteen percent going to men's basketball, and then.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Kind of five and five and kind of cut cut
down from there.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
But with Kentucky men's basketball being so important, it's just
it kind of has created a dialogue of well do
you you know, how much do you invest in the
men's basketball program?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Knowing the importance for this school.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
In particular, while also acknowledging, Hey, the you know, football
program needs as much help as it can get right now,
you don't want to not give them the resources that
they need to kind of get back to where where
they want to be. So it's it's a really, really
kind of tricky time for Mitch Barnhardt and I do not.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Envy his position right now.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
We're going to stick a pin in that because the
big Ass Fans Hotline is blown up by all these
new names keep popping up. But I do I got
so many questions for you on that Jack. Well, we
have a guess because I was going to see if
you couldn't stand another segment, but there's a big question.
I didn't know about the opt out part. But we
do got to get to the big Ass Fans hotliner.
So I am going to come back to that Jack
when we we get done with the hotline. That's get
(06:02):
to the big Ass Man's hotline and see what Henry
has to say. Good morning, Henry, what do you got
for us?
Speaker 7 (06:08):
Good morning man? And this one's friend.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
We asked a question about horses and whether they know
I will tell you a story. This goes back to
the late sixties early seventies. We were racing the Delaware
Park and we had a Philly and the Stakes race
there and about two.
Speaker 7 (06:26):
Hundred feet from the finish.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Line, she broke to the lead, and another Philly came
after her, and when the other Philly, the jockey brought
the Philly over next to hours so that they would
be eye to eye, and our Philly reached over and
bit the net of the Phillies that came up beside her,
and the Philly flowed down that came up beside her,
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and ours went on on the race. And when the
jockey came fell, they took our Philly down. And it
was a stakes race, and it was very important for breeding,
stake race for Phillies. And we always said that the
only reason they took her down is because the Vanderbilt Philly,
who was big and they were the intervals, were big
and delaware racing, and that was the one that turned
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up to win the race. The other point is, and
if you'll notice, anytime a horse comes from behind and
another horse is leaving, the jockey will always bring his
horse coming from behind over to the other house so
they can lock eyes.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
I mean, they they want to win.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Don't ever feel yourself, they do want to win. The
other the other point was that I was part back
in the late fifties of Kentucky Anty our basketball high
school basketball star agramming I'm not I can't remember whether
we won one of those games or not, but we
had we had the best high school player I've ever
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seen in my life, and I went all the way
through pros and his name was Julius Barry and he
played at Lexington Dunbar when it was not the one
out on the on man O War wherever it is now.
Julius was a man playing with boys. But we had
him beamed at halftime. And I don't know what what
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the Indiana coach said to his people, but they came
out the second half and spoke to us, and I
talked to I talked to Indiana high school players that
made it to the Pros, and they all said, you know,
we were a lot more serious about that game than
the Kentucky players, and we did. We had I think
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I think the kids from Lexington that went to Duke Mullins.
Did he go to Duke? I don't know he was
on that team.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Bob Darton that played.
Speaker 7 (08:52):
Was ended up being a professional basket.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Baseball catcher for the Giants. Darton was on the team. Kiddle,
the farmer Kentucky High School commissioner from over in the
town just north and east of uh Kentucky. I can't
think of it Han of Faint Mail, but he was
the Kentucky High School commissioner. He played on that team.
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And Bert Green from Olive Hill. We had really really
good players and we had him. We had him beat
in Indianapolis, but god, they came back and smoked us
in the second half. And we had two unbelievable high
school coaches, Gene Rhodes who coached the Saint X and
Mayle and Guy Strong who coach coached at Mayo and
(09:38):
then Eastern Kentucky. So we had the coaches, we had
the we had the material to play, but it didn't
work out so well. But I think they do really
take that game more seriously than our kids do.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Thank you for the call, hen That was extremely informative.
We appreciate I'm sure our listeners appreciated as well. Before
we go to break and I come back and I'm
gonna see if Larry knows some of those is. We
have guests lined all up coming after ten thirty. But
Bo Henry is a second caller that the voice is
(10:16):
not familiar, so a lot of people are listening to
us and they're calling in today. You got a special message.
Though other people are listening to that aren't calling in
that are new or they.
Speaker 8 (10:26):
I think they always listen to me. They're a little
bit shy, okay when I try to get him on
the air because I've talked to him many times. They
listen to us now, see you guys need to call
up and they're like, yeah, you don't want to hear
from us. Sure, absolutely, we like getting new voices on
Sunday Morning Sports Talk. But I got to say good
morning and safe travels to my good friends Doug Cheek
(10:46):
and Louis Hale. They drove all the way up to
Pennsylvania to get a car this weekend. Lewis is a
he's kind of a gearhead, so I think they drove
up to get a class car to bring back here
to Lexington. And I got a text from my good
friend Doug and said, Hey, we're listening to you guys
(11:07):
right now. Enjoy listening to Sunday Morning Sports Talk. We
appreciate that. Thanks for listening. And safe travels back to Lexington.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
We appreciate that. Thank you guys, Doug and you all
hope yeah, be safe coming back. Let me go to
break because I do want to find a little bit
more about this revenue sharing before we go to break,
Larry Ward, are you familiar with Julius Barrion, who he
Henry spoke of.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
I've heard the name, ever, just a little bit earlier
than what I could remember watching playing the same with
Jeff Mullens who went to Duke. But yeah, I've heard
some old time fans used to hear Lonnie Dimrie talk
about Julius Barry quite a bit.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Okay, Well when we come back, we will continue this show.
You're listening to Stockyards of Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk
on news Radio six thirty WLAP.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
This is the home of the Wildcats six thirty WLAP.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk from Anthony D.
White along with Larry Vauk and Jack Pilgrim. Stockyards Bank
has been your trusted partner since nineteen one hundred and four,
so head on over to syb dot com for all
your banking and financial needs. As I stated before we
went to break, I did want to ask Jack Pilgrim.
(12:24):
You said that it looked like well the frequently asked
questions that Barnhart kind of discussed, what does it look
like when what would be the reason and what does
it look like? You said, if they can opt out?
So if you decide to opt out of the profit
sharing or revenue sharing, what does that look like? You
do you not get paid or do you collect all
(12:44):
your nil or you have to opt out in order
to gain inn il? Can you be part of the
revenue sharing and still getting in al? What does opt
out meaning? What does that look like?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Or do you not know? Yeah, that refers to the team.
Speaker 6 (12:59):
Like the schools can decide to opt out and you know,
do do their own thing or you know, I think
of the twenty twenty point five million dollars, they don't
have to. You know, schools can decide to not distribute
all twenty and a half million dollars if they don't
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choose you know, they could choose fifteen or ten or
however they want to do it. They're just options. That's
because the schools are this isn't added revenue for the schools.
They have to you know, use it from their original
budgets and their original.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Revenue that they bring in.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
So some of these schools are basically saying, like, we know,
we don't have an extra twenty and a half million
dollars lying around to you know, give give to these
student athletes. So that would be the where schools would
decide to opt out of Kentucky. Mitch Marthart in that
you know statement and the FAQ said, now we're going
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to use it to its its maximum, and you know,
really try to make the most of it, because it
is a pretty substantial advantage if you can, you know,
crunch the numbers the right way and you know, try
to finagle it in such a way to wear Okay,
if if I give you know, other schools are giving
football seventy five percent of that twenty and a half
(14:21):
million dollars, you know, do we go to eighty percent
to to try to find a little bit of a
of a you know, competitive edge, you know, and pay
a little bit more to football or with basketball, same
thing on the opposite end, do you pay a little
bit more to men's basketball to continue to dominate that
sport the way Kentucky fans obviously want. So it does
(14:43):
involve some strategy with that, but Mitch Barhart said, yeah,
they're they're definitely opting in. They're definitely going to use
that twenty and a half and it's going to go
all the way up to thirty three million by twenty
thirty five, I believe.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
So each year that number is going to keep.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
You know, climbing and and they'll Another thing that Mitch
Barnhart said is that it'll be a year by year
decision about what the athletic department needs, what each individual
sport needs.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
So say baseball one.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
Year, like hey, we really need a little bit of
an of an extra push. Barnhart then can decide to
throw an extra million at baseball or however, the pot
of money is the pot of money. It'll be on
Barnheart to decide where each you know, each dollar goes.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
And uh, before before we can get the break and
we have we have Davis McCrae's coach coming on. But
the quickly, well not quickly, you got a little while.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
So Father and Son basketball camp, how is that going?
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Team?
Speaker 6 (15:50):
Yeah, it was, it was really cool. Yesterday was the
father son camp. Today is the father daughter camp. So
be prepared for LeAnn Pope and the girls to show
up and you know teach, you know, teach the girls
dances and things like that. That's what they did last year.
And you know, is a pretty cool thing kind of
meet and greet with the new pope family. But yeah,
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yesterday was really cool because you know, you got to
see Jayden Quainton's running around where you know, he's coming
off a torn acl had surgery back in March, so
you know.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Kind of all eyes on him of hey, how is
he looking and will he be you know back.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
He keeps saying he's going to be back by September,
He's going to be there for the start of the
regular season.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
How realistic is that goal. Well, by looking at him,
you know, jogging around and playing with the kids and
playing one on one and blocking shots and hitting shots,
he looked great.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
He looked like a guy that was definitely on track
for you know, I don't know if it's going to
be right at the start of the season, but definitely
a guy who was going to be playing at some
point very very soon. So that that was a very
exciting kind of update. Otaga Away kind of carried himself
in a like, hey, I know I'm here for business.
I am you know, I'm the leader of this team,
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you know, kind of there was just a gravity to
him as he carried himself, much different than last year.
He was kind of the new kid on the block
and just got to find in his way and not
necessarily seen as a leader or a vet or anything
like that. So that part was really cool. Jasper Johnson
nephew Anthony, I'm telling you, kids love him. Every every
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kid wanted to know about Jasper and sign autographs, take pictures.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
They were asking, hey, are we going to get take anny?
What about this? What about that?
Speaker 6 (17:30):
Asking him, you know, hey, are you better than Eli
Ellis or you know the I mean, just talking his
ear off, and I think he got a kick out
of it. I went up and, you know, talk to
him a little bit and I said, I texted dentist
before moving. I said, hey, don't don't cry, old man,
don't don't cry sending your baby boy off the off
to college. So that part was funny and Jasper got
(17:50):
a kick out of that. He said, no, Dad didn't cry,
but mom, Mom definitely cried.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
So it's very very.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Cool just kind of see watching us watching Jasper grow
up and be now in that environment as a new.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Kid on the block, freshman. It is pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yesterday, And is that something that a billion jack can
partake in? Is that a conflict of interest. Uh yeah,
it's I think ages seven seventeen.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
I think I saw so it'll be a couple of years,
but I will absolutely positively be taking a little man
over there when the time comes.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Shoot, I might, you know, try to sneak him in
one of these. It's not gonna be this year, obviously,
but maybe.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
Next year I'll I'll find a way to you know,
bring him in as my media photographer or something. But
it definitely want hit him to experience. It's very cool.
There was a kid that wore red socks. I don't
know if you saw the video. It was going around.
Kid wore red socks and Pope blew the whistle and
kind of you know, turned his attention, everybody's attention toward
him and made the equipment staff guy go get a
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pair of new white long Nike socks and basically told him, hey,
we don't wear red around here. You got to change
your change your socks out. So very very cool memory
for a lot of those kids that they'll remember for
the rest of their lives, very likely.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
And bo before we get Coach Gillery on at the
next break, we got other people listening to this show.
Oh yeah, I know that you got a shout out.
Speaker 8 (19:19):
Yeah, I've got to give a big shout out to
a good friend of mine, Aaron tiny Rose. He's on
his way over to Kentucky Prowle Park to do some
postseason producing for I believe it's is it softball this
weekend or stay termined with baseball?
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Larry?
Speaker 4 (19:35):
It is both both of them.
Speaker 8 (19:37):
Both of them are going on, so I don't know
which one he is doing. I don't know if he's
doing softball or baseball, but he is producing with prep
spind dot com and I think he is trying to
keep Buzz Baker in line over there. Too great to
have them listening to us. Also, I got to give
a big shout out to a Chaldhood friend of mine,
Carol Rich, who is listening to us. She sent me
(19:58):
a text and said, I listened to you all every
Sunday and I don't get a shout out. So here
you go, Carol, Thanks for listening.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Carol, thank you for listening. You do realize this is
one of the most popular shows. Well, this is probably
the most popular show on Sunday morning, So we couldn't
give everybody a shout out, but I allow BO to
do that because Boe appreciate you and I appreciate you.
We also appreciate Coach Gillery from coming on. Will we
come back, coach of Davis McCrae Cornerstone Christian. When we'll return,
(20:26):
we will have Coach Gillery you the Stockyards Bank Sunday morning.
This is the home of the Wildcats.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Six thirty WLAP on a sports talk on news Radio
six thirty WLAP. Welcome back Stockyards Bank, Sunday Morning, Sports
talk on Anthony White along with Larry Vault. This is
our Sunday morning sports talkers, brought to you by Country
Boy Brewing. We are now proud to be joined by
Clayton Gillery, head coach of Cornerstone Christian and head coach
(20:57):
of the UK wide Receiver commit Davis McCrae six two
wide receiver out of Texas.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Good morning, h Gillery, How are you doing? I'm doing well.
Good morning to you guys.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Well, so Davis's committed to UK. The guy looks like
he can flyat out fly What can you What can
you tell us about mister mccraig.
Speaker 9 (21:23):
Now you hit the nail on the head. He can
definitely fly. He is truly six to two right now.
He's about one ninety five because he just got out
of track season, but he normally plays at about two hundred,
you know, and that's huge for us because of his
physical presence blocking and being able to get off the jam.
But yeah, the kid can run. He's gone ten, nine,
(21:44):
six and one hundred during track season. If my memory
Serveson correctly, I believe he's got the school record in
the four by one hundred relay, four about two hundred
relay and four about four relay. He's run four or
five flats laser twice for us, and you know he's
run four or four hand times several times. So yeah,
(22:05):
the kids a phenomenal athlete.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
And what are some of the football qualities athletically that
Kentucky's going to be getting when he gets on campus.
Speaker 9 (22:18):
You've got a guy that can really go up and
get the ball, you know, I mean he high points
the ball very well.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
A former basketball.
Speaker 9 (22:25):
Player, you know, he runs very good.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
Man.
Speaker 9 (22:29):
The man routes, especially that comeback route, and then with
his wingspan in that length quarterback can really put it
on that outside sideline and he's able to stretch and
toe tap and get it. So you know, I think
football wise, You've got a kid that has a lot
of growth, just because if we're being honest, he's only
been playing receiver two years. Because when I first got here,
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he was they had him at tight end. Oh, so
we're being honest. Junior year was the only what's his
first year outside at the X receiver, so this senior
year would be his second year, you know. But he's
picked it up very well, very physical. Like I said,
you know, when we run screens, when we run bubbles
and things like that, we always try to do it
(23:12):
to his sideline or to the side of the field
that he's on, whatever he's in the field, or the
boundary because he's such a great blocker and his physicality,
you know, I mean, he plays linebacker for us, and
he's not afraid to get dirty. We can use him
to bring him across the middle and crack back on
those linebackers as well. And because he's so big and strong,
he does.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
It with ease.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
And that was kind of my question. Six two hundred
pounds is a nice side receiver, especially when you run
a four to four man. You got a complete package.
So he's really good at getting off the ball and
you know, dealing with now that you said, he's come
from tight end, so he's adjusting to the playing in space,
bump and run coverage because he's so big and fast
(23:50):
that it sounds intimidating.
Speaker 9 (23:53):
No, definitely, you know. I mean, and I don't know
if you guys got an opportunity to put your eyes
on him when he came down there for his official visit,
but I.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Mean, he looks the part.
Speaker 9 (24:01):
You know, he's one of those guys where you know,
this spring when schools came to evaluate our team and
they see him running around with his you know, with
his compression shirt and jumping around and catching balls, or
they see him take off his paths. I mean, you
can see the part. You can see the dedication that
he's put in the weight room. I mean, the kid
is chiseled up. So you know, it's one of those
(24:23):
things where if you're not a big time defensive back,
and I'm not just talking about skill set, but I'm
talking about size wise, you really think about what you're
going to do when you roll up in front of him.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Clayton, tell me a little bit about his recruiting because
I have a feel of it. What you said, he's
just basically been a receiver for one years, more people
get a chance to seem sounds like there's a very
good change. His recruiting ranking is going to rise. He's
probably gonna have a lot more people coming in to
seem how to Kentucky, maybe get on him earlier than
(24:54):
what some other schools have.
Speaker 9 (24:57):
Well, you're absolutely right around about that. You know, his
status has continued to rise. You know, But one thing
about Davis is that you know from the conversations him
and I have had, he really is in tune to
the guys that are number one showing him the much love,
you know, guys that communicate with him on a daily basis,
and guys that have been with him. You know, from
(25:18):
the beginning of the journey. You know, I believe that
he really connected with the UK coaches just for the
simple fact of you know, his relationship with the receiver coach,
coach LD and then his relationship with the offensive coordinator.
I know, the conversation him and after his recruitment visit
was just how well he connected with them and being
able to have conversations with them on a personal level.
(25:40):
He felt like that they were very down to earth.
He felt like that he believed in the officive scheme
that they were going with. And I think that's the
key with Davis. He's I don't I don't see him
as a guy that, you know, a lot of flash
and things like that are going to impress them. He's
more about relationships. I mean, he's he's a very until
you get to know Davis or onto a day, this
is very comfortable around. He's a very quiet, soft spoken kid.
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You know, He's a kid that could be in the
room and outside of his physical presence, you wouldn't notice
him because he's not going to say much, you know.
So I do think that that relationship with those coaches
has been key for him.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Now, Anthony, I want to I want to tell you this.
Clay may not even know this. I don't know, but
when I was talking with Davis about some of the
things that he would kind of describe himself as and
how he would play. But then he told me, first
I ever had a recruit ever tell him my fifty
some years of doing this, that one thing he really
loved about football and all was the band, and how
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the band was his favorite part because it really got
him hyped up and everything like that, and he just
loved hearing and watching the band play. I've never Coach
ever had a recruit ever even mentioned that to me
as a football player or anything. So is he out
there dancing with the band or do you even know that?
Speaker 9 (26:56):
You know, you see him from time to time I
kind of sway from side to side with the music.
But I mean he's a music kid. You know, before
a game, he's always got his headphones on and kind
of jam into his own thing as he gets in
his mental state of mind. So I mean I could
definitely see that, you know now that you mentioned it,
But he's never talked to me about that. But anytime
our band starts to rock and you do kind of
see him swaying from side to side on the field.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
So now that makes sense. Well, Larry, what you do know?
The great Walter Payton played in the band as well,
So you do know that you got to be great
to do that.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Yeah, they doesn't playing the band. He just enjoys the band.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Well I know, So there's that. So there's that part
of the love and the music. Hey, but Coach is
Texas band. It's big like it is in Louisiana. Are
you high school games are do you have band contests
at high school games in Texas.
Speaker 9 (27:45):
Listen, man, this is Texas and which talking about high
school football. There's no bigger bands in the country than
what you have here. Now, with that being said, you know,
we're a private school, so our band is not as
large as some of the six A schools around the state.
But I mean you've got bands here in Texas and
even here in San Antonio where you're talking about two
three hundred you know, pieces in the band. So yeah, no,
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they definitely know how to rock around here.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
And Larry, I'd said, one.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Thing that I really like when you were telling me
Clayton is about seven on seventeen that you coach a
couple of the guys that Davis plays with on that team,
and he told me how much better just being around
them makes him. So talk a little bit about that
experience and how you think that's helping because of what
he's done, also because of who he's playing with.
Speaker 9 (28:35):
No, most definitely.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
So I.
Speaker 9 (28:38):
Own death Con Texas, which is one of the premier
seven on seven organizations in the state of Texas. Right,
and we play a national schedule, so I have trials
every year for a new team, right, and Davis has
played for me for a couple of years at depth
Con Texas, you know, but most most of my team
comes from you know, select kid out of San Antonio
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and select kids out of Houston, you know. So, for example,
the quarterback for Davis's team was five star Keishawn Henderson
that is committed to University.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Of Houston, you know.
Speaker 9 (29:09):
Teammate five star your main Bishop, which is committed to
the University of Texas, you know. And I've got four
or five different guys that are four or five stars
on that roster, you know. But I think by playing
with those guys, you know, in the offseason has helped
this game tremendously, has helped his confidence level and then
the level of competition that we play against, because we're
not just playing against teams in San Antonio. We're traveling
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down to South Florida and we're playing against all those
foreign five stars in Miami. Then we're going up to
Atlanta and playing all those foreign five stars up there,
and then we'll travel to Vegas and then we go
to New Orleans. So we travel the country to play
to select the most competitive teams in the country. Not
to mention we play on the OT seven circuit, which
you always have a lot of high level competition there.
So I think all of that has helped Davis transition
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his game allow him to be able to process the
game at a faster pace because ultimately, as we all know,
when you're playing and high level competition, you're playing at
a very fast pace, you know. So I think being
around those guys as well too, has kind of helped
his maturation process as we talk about him learning more
about playing that particular position, and it's been beneficial, you know.
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I think he's he's drawn some great lessons from it.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
And I kind of wanted to ask if you or
Davis have kept an eye on the receiver room in
the UK. You know, with the NIL and transfer portal,
there's a lot of moving in that receiver room and
I think we could use some assistance.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
So have you or Davis looked at that situation?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Was that part of his decision to come here or
was that even a was it many questionable that you know,
so many receivers left the receiver room.
Speaker 9 (30:46):
I don't necessarily think it was something that bothered him
too much. I know him and I discussed it, and
we discussed it briefly, because you know, my consultation to
him on that is just this is what the business
is now in Division one football, you know, especially with
how the transfer portal is now, and you know the
availability of nil, which is like I told him when
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I played college ball, that wasn't even thought right, right,
But what I tried to advise him is that this
is this is the business of the game now, right,
So you have to understand that that room could be
very full one day and be empty the next day,
or you know, on the flip side, it could be
you and two other receivers on Monday, and then by
Wednesday you could have four or five other guys in there.
At the end of the day, your job is to
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get you know, get the production that your team needs
to be able to be successful in the win, you know.
And I think he understands that very well, because we've
had a couple of conversations about it, you know, and
we did kind of discuss a little bit. And I
forget the young man's name, but I believe there's a
receiver that Kentucky brought in, you know, So Davis did
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talk a little bit about him, but I think he's
up for the challenge of being able to earn that
starting spot or earn some playing playing time very early.
I know he's excited about that.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
And my last question, I guess is and I came
in as a running back. I played running back my
whole high school career, also played linebacker and defensive back,
and I may part most of my decision based off
of what colleges were going to let me play running back,
and half of wanted me to play defensive back. Do
you know, coach, when I came here the first week,
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they moved me to defensive back. So my question, so
my question is, my question is is Davis is he
against idea playing maybe on the defensive side of the ball.
Not that that's a question that uk, but I like
a versatile athlete. You talk about his defense a whole
lot as well. Is that something he's open to or
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he strictly wants to be on offense.
Speaker 9 (32:45):
I don't think he's close to it, right. I know,
ideally in a perfect situation, he really enjoys playing wide receiver.
But you have to remember he has a couple offers
on the defensive side. Texas Tech offered him as an
outside linebacker. University of Houston has offered him as a safety,
you know, And I know one of the conversations that
him and I have had, and I know that some
of these schools who were trying to sell him or
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are trying to present to him, the opportunity to play
on defense is just a transition to the NFL and
the size of the safeties and dbs that the NFL
have been drafting lately and trying to get him to
understand how his size would transition to that. So I
don't think that he is close to it right I know,
right now his heart is a receiver, but I do
know that he enjoys playing defense enough that he would
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make the transition. And I think ultimately Davis is the
type of kid that he's going to do what's best
for his team, you know. So if coach says, hey,
you know you could work at wide receiver, you can
get on the field at defensive back, then most likely
you're going to see Davis at defensive back, you know.
I know the dream might be to hopefully play on
Sundays one day, So if that's the best transition for
him to get to the big dance on Sundays, then
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that may be something that he'll do. But you know,
Davis is going to do what's best for the team.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
I know that much.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
I gest in my life saying, Clayton, if you could
to share a little bit with things. So so we
talked a lot about his athletic abilities and all like that.
But also his family must be really, really strong academically.
He's got a brother playing football at Columbia, got an
offer to go to the Ivy League school himself. Just
how big are or how important academics to him and
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his family.
Speaker 9 (34:20):
So mom and dad are big on academics, you know,
especially Mom. She's a nurse and been in the medical
field for many, many years. So you know, that's one
thing that she's always kind of preached to the boys
about being able to, you know, have high grades and
having many doors open for you because of what you
do academically. You know, his older brother, Carter, who like
you said, played plays at Columbia, had a really great
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GPA for us at Cornerstone. He was the freshman defensive
Newcomer of the Year at Columbia, you know, so I
believe that Carter was even on the visit with him.
So that's always good when you have an older brother
who is at an ivy league understands the pool daily
between ed education and athletics and can kind of help
walk you through that on your official visit, you know.
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But ultimately, whatever blueprint the mccraids have in place, it's
working because both of us have been very successful academically
and athletically.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Well, Clayton, we appreciate you joining us this morning to
talk a little bit about Davis and we look forward
to have them on campus.
Speaker 9 (35:20):
No, thank thank you, guys. I'm glad you guys you
know had me on. I mean, Davis is a phenomenal
athlete and I'm super excited. You know, our whole program
is really excited to watch what he does at the
next level at UK, So it'll be great.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
All right, Thank you, coach, keep up the good work.
Speaker 9 (35:37):
Thank you guys, have a great day.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Thank you. We will continue this show after this.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
You are listening to Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk
on News Radio six thirty WLAP.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
This is the home of the Wildcats, six thirty WLAP.
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony
White along with Larry vat.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Clouds. The sky is very very dark.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
Now.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
I think I'm almost certain these are cumulat nimbus clouds,
not that I've seen them. I've only seen them in
the like on a book, like illustrated, not the real thing,
but it is. Those clouds are smoky gray looking and
it's just hovering over top of Clark's Main Street market studios.
iHeart studio. But Larry Vaugh, thank you for setting up
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Coach Guillory. I'm very excited to have Davis McCrae here.
Guy seems like a well rounded guy, and his athletic
statistics and measurements are off, as the youngsters would say nowadays,
are off the chains.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
I like that, off the change. I hadn't heard that.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
That's good.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Yeah you shouldn't. They don't. They probably won't talk like
that over.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
In Danville, probably or not, probably not around me.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
I did want to ask you really quickly before we
go to break, because we come back, we're gonna have
a We're gonna have walk Hawthorn, Braiden's dad on. But
I didn't want to ask you that the profit sharing thing.
Did any of that stuff that Jack told you about
the profit sharing come across as it's interesting, it's more interesting.
(37:14):
I thought, I didn't realize colleges could opt out. But
then you've got colleges like Texas A and M who
have all the money, like so it doesn't really matter,
like they can funnel the money wherever they wanted to go.
But are you more intrigued about some of the details
that Barnhard has discussed Now?
Speaker 4 (37:32):
I don't understand any of it, Anthony, I'll be first
admit I can't discuss it. I thought at one time
it was supposed to be coming out of the TV
money that the school's got, and it was supposed to
be going to different parts of the athletic program. I
thought volleyball and gymnastics and sports like that, we're going
to get some of it. You don't even hear them
maybe being mentioned as getting a piece of the pie,
not even a sliver of the pile. All you hear
(37:53):
is football, men's basketball, and women's basketball, baseball. I don't
hear anything about the others. I thought they were all
going to get something and benefit from this. So I
don't get it, don't understand it, probably don't. I shouldn't
say I don't like it because I don't understand enough
about it. But it's an awful lot of money. They're
just going to change everything and the sports that I
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grew up watching and knowing. And I know it's just
typical old guy talk. Things are going to change, but
it just seems like now it's just gonna be all
about the money. I mean, and that's just gonna be
the bottom line.
Speaker 6 (38:26):
Now.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
I don't blame people for that, because in the real
world that's usually what it's all about. But it's certainly
got to make significant changes. And I don't understand it
because I thought everybody's supposed to get a little bit
of it. But it sure doesn't sound like it.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
That's not what I heard Larry Vault. Like I said,
I think it kind of goes like Jack said. I
think if there's twenty thousand, I mean twenty million, I
think football is supposed to get about sixty percent of it,
sixty or seven, So I would assume they would get
probably twelve fourteen, thirteen fourteen. Basketball, we'll probably get three
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or four, and then there will probably be two or
three million to this distribute amongst the other sports.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
I think most of SEC schools are going to get
football sixteen to seventy million.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Well, yeah, I heard that, but I also heard the
number was twenty twenty two million, So when Jack said
twenty point five, that kind of changed it for me.
But when we come back, we'll have what Hawthorn, father
of Brad Hawthorn UK Basketball. We'll be back after this.
You're listening to Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning sports Talk on
news radio six thirty WLAB
This is the home of the Wildcats. Six thirty WLAP
Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Stockyards Bank, Sunday morning sports Stalk from Anthony D. White
along with Larry Vaught and Jack Pilgrim, coming to you
from Clark's Main Street Market studios and beautiful downtown like
Stick Kentucky.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
The weather it's changing here. There was great clouds a
little while ago.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Now it's partially cloudy but clear, kind of a little
bit of both. I don't know if those are cumula,
nimbus or serious clouds up there, but it's the overcast
has left, but it looks like a out yonder. It
may be moving in some So if you would like
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the studio. You can dial eight five to nine to
eight zero two to eight seven eight ft nine to
a zero Cats to join the show. Larry Vaught, I
did look up robes or Nikki and were you familiar
with him from Chesterton, Indiana? Were you familiar with him
before before Frank brought him up? Which was a great call.
Thank you for calling in, Frank.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
No. I was hoping to tell Frank to send me
some information to contact him so I could learn more
about him, soph he is still listening. Reach out to
me in some way, right, I can give me a
contact way to get in touch with you.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Uh yeah, Frank, if you are listening, could you call
You can call back in the same number you called
and get with BO and drop your information off. Or
you can in box if you're on x, Twitter or
any of those things, you can in box.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Larry Vault at vos work Magic can help me. Yeah. Yeah,
Bo may have his number. I don't know if he
can just be giving you a number. I don't like
my numbering gave out.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Oh we're not supposed to keep giving your number. I
didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
No, why do you think I have several numbers? Somebody
gave my number. Our people always say why you don't
give out this number. I've had my phone number, my
personal phone number on half like twenty five years, never
had a change it, never really had no problems. And
now I give somebody really close to me my number
and they add me to a group chat or or someone,
and I'm like, why is this person texting me on
(02:08):
this number? So I don't even respond. So if you
called me on my personal number and I didn't give
you my personal number. I'm not gonna respond to it,
Larry Vought, So do not give my number to anybody
without asking for permission. How many times have you asked
me for someone's number and I have to get back
with you.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
A few times.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I don't just give out my number you, my boy.
I don't just give out somebody's number to you, because
I don't want my number just being given out.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
I don't think I've ever given you a number out.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
I never will.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I don't think you do.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
But you just made a comment as if you would like, yeah,
someone wants your number, anth now I'll give it out,
which I don't think you would anyways. So Frank, you
can also if you're on social media, reach Larry Vaught
avas Views if you want to end box him or something.
But the simplest way it's probably called bow back or
tweet the show, Facebook the show and Bob Dmison on
(03:04):
the Facebook, and you can drop that information off to us.
Let's get back to what we were talking about, and
the next topic we had that we were going to discuss,
Jack Pilgrim, was the revenue sharing that has come down
the it's come down the pike that that is going
to be there are now athletes are now employees of
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the university. They're no longer student student athletes. They are
employees of the university that have their school paid for,
but they are paid to play a sport.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Are you aware of that, Jack.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
Pilgrim, Oh yeah, I think you'd have to be living
under a rock at this point if you haven't been
caught up in the chaos and the madness of it.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
The news dropped very conveniently at like nine to eighteen
PM on a Friday that the settlement had been approved.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
So it's like, yeah, go figure.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
We were at the Kentucky Indian All Star Game when
the news dropped, and Zach, who met my coworker.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Who was with me had the night shift, and was like, oh, yeah,
go figure.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
I have to, you know, pump out an article on
the biggest news update of the entire summer that we've
seen in years come down to Pike at the middle
of the night on a Friday.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
I say, go figure.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
But we got an update from from Mitch Marnhart and
kind of he released Q and a kind of frequently
asked questions FAQ about just what it means where Kentucky stands,
how it's going to impact each individual sport, you know,
some of the like you know, you don't have to
opt in if you don't want to. You know, how
(04:40):
does each sport get separated amongst you know, football, basketball,
you know, men's basketball, women's basketball, baseball, all the way
down to you know, some of the Olympic sports. So,
you know, I think those decisions are going to be
made over the next couple of weeks. You know, Kentucky
just in a really unique spot because of the value
of the men's basketball program. Most of the other you
(05:00):
know sports across you know, the power forward schools are
doing kind of a just a base seventy five percent
going to football, fifteen percent going to men's basketball, and then.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Kind of five and five and kind of cut cut
down from there.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
But with Kentucky men's basketball being so important, it's just
it kind of has created a dialogue of well do
you you know, how much do you invest in the
men's basketball program?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Knowing the importance for this school.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
In particular, while also acknowledging, Hey, the you know, football
program needs as much help as it can get right now,
you don't want to not give them the resources that
they need to kind of get back to where where
they want to be. So it's it's a really, really
kind of tricky time for Mitch Barnhardt and I do not.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Envy his position right now.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
We're going to stick a pin in that because the
big Ass Fans Hotline is blown up by all these
new names keep popping up. But I do I got
so many questions for you on that Jack. Well, we
have a guess because I was going to see if
you couldn't stand another segment, but there's a big question.
I didn't know about the opt out part. But we
do got to get to the big Ass Fans hotliner.
So I am going to come back to that Jack
when we we get done with the hotline. That's get
(06:02):
to the big Ass Man's hotline and see what Henry
has to say. Good morning, Henry, what do you got
for us?
Speaker 7 (06:08):
Good morning man? And this one's friend.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
We asked a question about horses and whether they know
I will tell you a story. This goes back to
the late sixties early seventies. We were racing the Delaware
Park and we had a Philly and the Stakes race
there and about two.
Speaker 7 (06:26):
Hundred feet from the finish.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Line, she broke to the lead, and another Philly came
after her, and when the other Philly, the jockey brought
the Philly over next to hours so that they would
be eye to eye, and our Philly reached over and
bit the net of the Phillies that came up beside her,
and the Philly flowed down that came up beside her,
(06:50):
and ours went on on the race. And when the
jockey came fell, they took our Philly down. And it
was a stakes race, and it was very important for breeding,
stake race for Phillies. And we always said that the
only reason they took her down is because the Vanderbilt Philly,
who was big and they were the intervals, were big
and delaware racing, and that was the one that turned
(07:14):
up to win the race. The other point is, and
if you'll notice, anytime a horse comes from behind and
another horse is leaving, the jockey will always bring his
horse coming from behind over to the other house so
they can lock eyes.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
I mean, they they want to win.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Don't ever feel yourself, they do want to win. The
other the other point was that I was part back
in the late fifties of Kentucky Anty our basketball high
school basketball star agramming I'm not I can't remember whether
we won one of those games or not, but we
had we had the best high school player I've ever
(07:55):
seen in my life, and I went all the way
through pros and his name was Julius Barry and he
played at Lexington Dunbar when it was not the one
out on the on man O War wherever it is now.
Julius was a man playing with boys. But we had
him beamed at halftime. And I don't know what what
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the Indiana coach said to his people, but they came
out the second half and spoke to us, and I
talked to I talked to Indiana high school players that
made it to the Pros, and they all said, you know,
we were a lot more serious about that game than
the Kentucky players, and we did. We had I think
(08:41):
I think the kids from Lexington that went to Duke Mullins.
Did he go to Duke? I don't know he was
on that team.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Bob Darton that played.
Speaker 7 (08:52):
Was ended up being a professional basket.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Baseball catcher for the Giants. Darton was on the team. Kiddle,
the farmer Kentucky High School commissioner from over in the
town just north and east of uh Kentucky. I can't
think of it Han of Faint Mail, but he was
the Kentucky High School commissioner. He played on that team.
(09:15):
And Bert Green from Olive Hill. We had really really
good players and we had him. We had him beat
in Indianapolis, but god, they came back and smoked us
in the second half. And we had two unbelievable high
school coaches, Gene Rhodes who coached the Saint X and
Mayle and Guy Strong who coach coached at Mayo and
(09:38):
then Eastern Kentucky. So we had the coaches, we had
the we had the material to play, but it didn't
work out so well. But I think they do really
take that game more seriously than our kids do.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Thank you for the call, hen That was extremely informative.
We appreciate I'm sure our listeners appreciated as well. Before
we go to break and I come back and I'm
gonna see if Larry knows some of those is. We
have guests lined all up coming after ten thirty. But
Bo Henry is a second caller that the voice is
(10:16):
not familiar, so a lot of people are listening to
us and they're calling in today. You got a special message.
Though other people are listening to that aren't calling in
that are new or they.
Speaker 8 (10:26):
I think they always listen to me. They're a little
bit shy, okay when I try to get him on
the air because I've talked to him many times. They
listen to us now, see you guys need to call
up and they're like, yeah, you don't want to hear
from us. Sure, absolutely, we like getting new voices on
Sunday Morning Sports Talk. But I got to say good
morning and safe travels to my good friends Doug Cheek
(10:46):
and Louis Hale. They drove all the way up to
Pennsylvania to get a car this weekend. Lewis is a
he's kind of a gearhead, so I think they drove
up to get a class car to bring back here
to Lexington. And I got a text from my good
friend Doug and said, Hey, we're listening to you guys
(11:07):
right now. Enjoy listening to Sunday Morning Sports Talk. We
appreciate that. Thanks for listening. And safe travels back to Lexington.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
We appreciate that. Thank you guys, Doug and you all
hope yeah, be safe coming back. Let me go to
break because I do want to find a little bit
more about this revenue sharing before we go to break,
Larry Ward, are you familiar with Julius Barrion, who he
Henry spoke of.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
I've heard the name, ever, just a little bit earlier
than what I could remember watching playing the same with
Jeff Mullens who went to Duke. But yeah, I've heard
some old time fans used to hear Lonnie Dimrie talk
about Julius Barry quite a bit.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Okay, Well when we come back, we will continue this show.
You're listening to Stockyards of Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk
on news Radio six thirty WLAP.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
This is the home of the Wildcats six thirty WLAP.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk from Anthony D.
White along with Larry Vauk and Jack Pilgrim. Stockyards Bank
has been your trusted partner since nineteen one hundred and four,
so head on over to syb dot com for all
your banking and financial needs. As I stated before we
went to break, I did want to ask Jack Pilgrim.
(12:24):
You said that it looked like well the frequently asked
questions that Barnhart kind of discussed, what does it look
like when what would be the reason and what does
it look like? You said, if they can opt out?
So if you decide to opt out of the profit
sharing or revenue sharing, what does that look like? You
do you not get paid or do you collect all
(12:44):
your nil or you have to opt out in order
to gain inn il? Can you be part of the
revenue sharing and still getting in al? What does opt
out meaning? What does that look like?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Or do you not know? Yeah, that refers to the team.
Speaker 6 (12:59):
Like the schools can decide to opt out and you know,
do do their own thing or you know, I think
of the twenty twenty point five million dollars, they don't
have to. You know, schools can decide to not distribute
all twenty and a half million dollars if they don't
(13:21):
choose you know, they could choose fifteen or ten or
however they want to do it. They're just options. That's
because the schools are this isn't added revenue for the schools.
They have to you know, use it from their original
budgets and their original.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Revenue that they bring in.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
So some of these schools are basically saying, like, we know,
we don't have an extra twenty and a half million
dollars lying around to you know, give give to these
student athletes. So that would be the where schools would
decide to opt out of Kentucky. Mitch Marthart in that
you know statement and the FAQ said, now we're going
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to use it to its its maximum, and you know,
really try to make the most of it, because it
is a pretty substantial advantage if you can, you know,
crunch the numbers the right way and you know, try
to finagle it in such a way to wear Okay,
if if I give you know, other schools are giving
football seventy five percent of that twenty and a half
(14:21):
million dollars, you know, do we go to eighty percent
to to try to find a little bit of a
of a you know, competitive edge, you know, and pay
a little bit more to football or with basketball, same
thing on the opposite end, do you pay a little
bit more to men's basketball to continue to dominate that
sport the way Kentucky fans obviously want. So it does
(14:43):
involve some strategy with that, but Mitch Barhart said, yeah,
they're they're definitely opting in. They're definitely going to use
that twenty and a half and it's going to go
all the way up to thirty three million by twenty
thirty five, I believe.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
So each year that number is going to keep.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
You know, climbing and and they'll Another thing that Mitch
Barnhart said is that it'll be a year by year
decision about what the athletic department needs, what each individual
sport needs.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
So say baseball one.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
Year, like hey, we really need a little bit of
an of an extra push. Barnhart then can decide to
throw an extra million at baseball or however, the pot
of money is the pot of money. It'll be on
Barnheart to decide where each you know, each dollar goes.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
And uh, before before we can get the break and
we have we have Davis McCrae's coach coming on. But
the quickly, well not quickly, you got a little while.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
So Father and Son basketball camp, how is that going?
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Team?
Speaker 6 (15:50):
Yeah, it was, it was really cool. Yesterday was the
father son camp. Today is the father daughter camp. So
be prepared for LeAnn Pope and the girls to show
up and you know teach, you know, teach the girls
dances and things like that. That's what they did last year.
And you know, is a pretty cool thing kind of
meet and greet with the new pope family. But yeah,
(16:10):
yesterday was really cool because you know, you got to
see Jayden Quainton's running around where you know, he's coming
off a torn acl had surgery back in March, so
you know.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Kind of all eyes on him of hey, how is
he looking and will he be you know back.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
He keeps saying he's going to be back by September,
He's going to be there for the start of the
regular season.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
How realistic is that goal. Well, by looking at him,
you know, jogging around and playing with the kids and
playing one on one and blocking shots and hitting shots,
he looked great.
Speaker 6 (16:40):
He looked like a guy that was definitely on track
for you know, I don't know if it's going to
be right at the start of the season, but definitely
a guy who was going to be playing at some
point very very soon. So that that was a very
exciting kind of update. Otaga Away kind of carried himself
in a like, hey, I know I'm here for business.
I am you know, I'm the leader of this team,
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you know, kind of there was just a gravity to
him as he carried himself, much different than last year.
He was kind of the new kid on the block
and just got to find in his way and not
necessarily seen as a leader or a vet or anything
like that. So that part was really cool. Jasper Johnson
nephew Anthony, I'm telling you, kids love him. Every every
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kid wanted to know about Jasper and sign autographs, take pictures.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
They were asking, hey, are we going to get take anny?
What about this? What about that?
Speaker 6 (17:30):
Asking him, you know, hey, are you better than Eli
Ellis or you know the I mean, just talking his
ear off, and I think he got a kick out
of it. I went up and, you know, talk to
him a little bit and I said, I texted dentist
before moving. I said, hey, don't don't cry, old man,
don't don't cry sending your baby boy off the off
to college. So that part was funny and Jasper got
(17:50):
a kick out of that. He said, no, Dad didn't cry,
but mom, Mom definitely cried.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
So it's very very.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Cool just kind of see watching us watching Jasper grow
up and be now in that environment as a new.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Kid on the block, freshman. It is pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yesterday, And is that something that a billion jack can
partake in? Is that a conflict of interest. Uh yeah,
it's I think ages seven seventeen.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
I think I saw so it'll be a couple of years,
but I will absolutely positively be taking a little man
over there when the time comes.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Shoot, I might, you know, try to sneak him in
one of these. It's not gonna be this year, obviously,
but maybe.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
Next year I'll I'll find a way to you know,
bring him in as my media photographer or something. But
it definitely want hit him to experience. It's very cool.
There was a kid that wore red socks. I don't
know if you saw the video. It was going around.
Kid wore red socks and Pope blew the whistle and
kind of you know, turned his attention, everybody's attention toward
him and made the equipment staff guy go get a
(18:53):
pair of new white long Nike socks and basically told him, hey,
we don't wear red around here. You got to change
your change your socks out. So very very cool memory
for a lot of those kids that they'll remember for
the rest of their lives, very likely.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
And bo before we get Coach Gillery on at the
next break, we got other people listening to this show.
Oh yeah, I know that you got a shout out.
Speaker 8 (19:19):
Yeah, I've got to give a big shout out to
a good friend of mine, Aaron tiny Rose. He's on
his way over to Kentucky Prowle Park to do some
postseason producing for I believe it's is it softball this
weekend or stay termined with baseball?
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Larry?
Speaker 4 (19:35):
It is both both of them.
Speaker 8 (19:37):
Both of them are going on, so I don't know
which one he is doing. I don't know if he's
doing softball or baseball, but he is producing with prep
spind dot com and I think he is trying to
keep Buzz Baker in line over there. Too great to
have them listening to us. Also, I got to give
a big shout out to a Chaldhood friend of mine,
Carol Rich, who is listening to us. She sent me
(19:58):
a text and said, I listened to you all every
Sunday and I don't get a shout out. So here
you go, Carol, Thanks for listening.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Carol, thank you for listening. You do realize this is
one of the most popular shows. Well, this is probably
the most popular show on Sunday morning, So we couldn't
give everybody a shout out, but I allow BO to
do that because Boe appreciate you and I appreciate you.
We also appreciate Coach Gillery from coming on. Will we
come back, coach of Davis McCrae Cornerstone Christian. When we'll return,
(20:26):
we will have Coach Gillery you the Stockyards Bank Sunday morning.
This is the home of the Wildcats.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Six thirty WLAP on a sports talk on news Radio
six thirty WLAP. Welcome back Stockyards Bank, Sunday Morning, Sports
talk on Anthony White along with Larry Vault. This is
our Sunday morning sports talkers, brought to you by Country
Boy Brewing. We are now proud to be joined by
Clayton Gillery, head coach of Cornerstone Christian and head coach
(20:57):
of the UK wide Receiver commit Davis McCrae six two
wide receiver out of Texas.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Good morning, h Gillery, How are you doing? I'm doing well.
Good morning to you guys.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Well, so Davis's committed to UK. The guy looks like
he can flyat out fly What can you What can
you tell us about mister mccraig.
Speaker 9 (21:23):
Now you hit the nail on the head. He can
definitely fly. He is truly six to two right now.
He's about one ninety five because he just got out
of track season, but he normally plays at about two hundred,
you know, and that's huge for us because of his
physical presence blocking and being able to get off the jam.
But yeah, the kid can run. He's gone ten, nine,
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six and one hundred during track season. If my memory
Serveson correctly, I believe he's got the school record in
the four by one hundred relay, four about two hundred
relay and four about four relay. He's run four or
five flats laser twice for us, and you know he's
run four or four hand times several times. So yeah,
(22:05):
the kids a phenomenal athlete.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
And what are some of the football qualities athletically that
Kentucky's going to be getting when he gets on campus.
Speaker 9 (22:18):
You've got a guy that can really go up and
get the ball, you know, I mean he high points
the ball very well.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
A former basketball.
Speaker 9 (22:25):
Player, you know, he runs very good.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
Man.
Speaker 9 (22:29):
The man routes, especially that comeback route, and then with
his wingspan in that length quarterback can really put it
on that outside sideline and he's able to stretch and
toe tap and get it. So you know, I think
football wise, You've got a kid that has a lot
of growth, just because if we're being honest, he's only
been playing receiver two years. Because when I first got here,
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he was they had him at tight end. Oh, so
we're being honest. Junior year was the only what's his
first year outside at the X receiver, so this senior
year would be his second year, you know. But he's
picked it up very well, very physical. Like I said,
you know, when we run screens, when we run bubbles
and things like that, we always try to do it
(23:12):
to his sideline or to the side of the field
that he's on, whatever he's in the field, or the
boundary because he's such a great blocker and his physicality,
you know, I mean, he plays linebacker for us, and
he's not afraid to get dirty. We can use him
to bring him across the middle and crack back on
those linebackers as well. And because he's so big and strong,
he does.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
It with ease.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
And that was kind of my question. Six two hundred
pounds is a nice side receiver, especially when you run
a four to four man. You got a complete package.
So he's really good at getting off the ball and
you know, dealing with now that you said, he's come
from tight end, so he's adjusting to the playing in space,
bump and run coverage because he's so big and fast
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that it sounds intimidating.
Speaker 9 (23:53):
No, definitely, you know. I mean, and I don't know
if you guys got an opportunity to put your eyes
on him when he came down there for his official visit,
but I.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Mean, he looks the part.
Speaker 9 (24:01):
You know, he's one of those guys where you know,
this spring when schools came to evaluate our team and
they see him running around with his you know, with
his compression shirt and jumping around and catching balls, or
they see him take off his paths. I mean, you
can see the part. You can see the dedication that
he's put in the weight room. I mean, the kid
is chiseled up. So you know, it's one of those
(24:23):
things where if you're not a big time defensive back,
and I'm not just talking about skill set, but I'm
talking about size wise, you really think about what you're
going to do when you roll up in front of him.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Clayton, tell me a little bit about his recruiting because
I have a feel of it. What you said, he's
just basically been a receiver for one years, more people
get a chance to seem sounds like there's a very
good change. His recruiting ranking is going to rise. He's
probably gonna have a lot more people coming in to
seem how to Kentucky, maybe get on him earlier than
(24:54):
what some other schools have.
Speaker 9 (24:57):
Well, you're absolutely right around about that. You know, his
status has continued to rise. You know, But one thing
about Davis is that you know from the conversations him
and I have had, he really is in tune to
the guys that are number one showing him the much love,
you know, guys that communicate with him on a daily basis,
and guys that have been with him. You know, from
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the beginning of the journey. You know, I believe that
he really connected with the UK coaches just for the
simple fact of you know, his relationship with the receiver coach,
coach LD and then his relationship with the offensive coordinator.
I know, the conversation him and after his recruitment visit
was just how well he connected with them and being
able to have conversations with them on a personal level.
(25:40):
He felt like that they were very down to earth.
He felt like that he believed in the officive scheme
that they were going with. And I think that's the
key with Davis. He's I don't I don't see him
as a guy that, you know, a lot of flash
and things like that are going to impress them. He's
more about relationships. I mean, he's he's a very until
you get to know Davis or onto a day, this
is very comfortable around. He's a very quiet, soft spoken kid.
(26:03):
You know, He's a kid that could be in the
room and outside of his physical presence, you wouldn't notice
him because he's not going to say much, you know.
So I do think that that relationship with those coaches
has been key for him.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Now, Anthony, I want to I want to tell you this.
Clay may not even know this. I don't know, but
when I was talking with Davis about some of the
things that he would kind of describe himself as and
how he would play. But then he told me, first
I ever had a recruit ever tell him my fifty
some years of doing this, that one thing he really
loved about football and all was the band, and how
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the band was his favorite part because it really got
him hyped up and everything like that, and he just
loved hearing and watching the band play. I've never Coach
ever had a recruit ever even mentioned that to me
as a football player or anything. So is he out
there dancing with the band or do you even know that?
Speaker 9 (26:56):
You know, you see him from time to time I
kind of sway from side to side with the music.
But I mean he's a music kid. You know, before
a game, he's always got his headphones on and kind
of jam into his own thing as he gets in
his mental state of mind. So I mean I could
definitely see that, you know now that you mentioned it,
But he's never talked to me about that. But anytime
our band starts to rock and you do kind of
see him swaying from side to side on the field.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
So now that makes sense. Well, Larry, what you do know?
The great Walter Payton played in the band as well,
So you do know that you got to be great
to do that.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Yeah, they doesn't playing the band. He just enjoys the band.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Well I know, So there's that. So there's that part
of the love and the music. Hey, but Coach is
Texas band. It's big like it is in Louisiana. Are
you high school games are do you have band contests
at high school games in Texas.
Speaker 9 (27:45):
Listen, man, this is Texas and which talking about high
school football. There's no bigger bands in the country than
what you have here. Now, with that being said, you know,
we're a private school, so our band is not as
large as some of the six A schools around the state.
But I mean you've got bands here in Texas and
even here in San Antonio where you're talking about two
three hundred you know, pieces in the band. So yeah, no,
(28:07):
they definitely know how to rock around here.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
And Larry, I'd said, one.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Thing that I really like when you were telling me
Clayton is about seven on seventeen that you coach a
couple of the guys that Davis plays with on that team,
and he told me how much better just being around
them makes him. So talk a little bit about that
experience and how you think that's helping because of what
he's done, also because of who he's playing with.
Speaker 9 (28:35):
No, most definitely.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
So I.
Speaker 9 (28:38):
Own death Con Texas, which is one of the premier
seven on seven organizations in the state of Texas. Right,
and we play a national schedule, so I have trials
every year for a new team, right, and Davis has
played for me for a couple of years at depth
Con Texas, you know, but most most of my team
comes from you know, select kid out of San Antonio
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and select kids out of Houston, you know. So, for example,
the quarterback for Davis's team was five star Keishawn Henderson
that is committed to University.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Of Houston, you know.
Speaker 9 (29:09):
Teammate five star your main Bishop, which is committed to
the University of Texas, you know. And I've got four
or five different guys that are four or five stars
on that roster, you know. But I think by playing
with those guys, you know, in the offseason has helped
this game tremendously, has helped his confidence level and then
the level of competition that we play against, because we're
not just playing against teams in San Antonio. We're traveling
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down to South Florida and we're playing against all those
foreign five stars in Miami. Then we're going up to
Atlanta and playing all those foreign five stars up there,
and then we'll travel to Vegas and then we go
to New Orleans. So we travel the country to play
to select the most competitive teams in the country. Not
to mention we play on the OT seven circuit, which
you always have a lot of high level competition there.
So I think all of that has helped Davis transition
(29:53):
his game allow him to be able to process the
game at a faster pace because ultimately, as we all know,
when you're playing and high level competition, you're playing at
a very fast pace, you know. So I think being
around those guys as well too, has kind of helped
his maturation process as we talk about him learning more
about playing that particular position, and it's been beneficial, you know.
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I think he's he's drawn some great lessons from it.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
And I kind of wanted to ask if you or
Davis have kept an eye on the receiver room in
the UK. You know, with the NIL and transfer portal,
there's a lot of moving in that receiver room and
I think we could use some assistance.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
So have you or Davis looked at that situation?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Was that part of his decision to come here or
was that even a was it many questionable that you know,
so many receivers left the receiver room.
Speaker 9 (30:46):
I don't necessarily think it was something that bothered him
too much. I know him and I discussed it, and
we discussed it briefly, because you know, my consultation to
him on that is just this is what the business
is now in Division one football, you know, especially with
how the transfer portal is now, and you know the
availability of nil, which is like I told him when
(31:08):
I played college ball, that wasn't even thought right, right,
But what I tried to advise him is that this
is this is the business of the game now, right,
So you have to understand that that room could be
very full one day and be empty the next day,
or you know, on the flip side, it could be
you and two other receivers on Monday, and then by
Wednesday you could have four or five other guys in there.
At the end of the day, your job is to
(31:29):
get you know, get the production that your team needs
to be able to be successful in the win, you know.
And I think he understands that very well, because we've
had a couple of conversations about it, you know, and
we did kind of discuss a little bit. And I
forget the young man's name, but I believe there's a
receiver that Kentucky brought in, you know, So Davis did
(31:51):
talk a little bit about him, but I think he's
up for the challenge of being able to earn that
starting spot or earn some playing playing time very early.
I know he's excited about that.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
And my last question, I guess is and I came
in as a running back. I played running back my
whole high school career, also played linebacker and defensive back,
and I may part most of my decision based off
of what colleges were going to let me play running back,
and half of wanted me to play defensive back. Do
you know, coach, when I came here the first week,
(32:21):
they moved me to defensive back. So my question, so
my question is, my question is is Davis is he
against idea playing maybe on the defensive side of the ball.
Not that that's a question that uk, but I like
a versatile athlete. You talk about his defense a whole
lot as well. Is that something he's open to or
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he strictly wants to be on offense.
Speaker 9 (32:45):
I don't think he's close to it, right. I know,
ideally in a perfect situation, he really enjoys playing wide receiver.
But you have to remember he has a couple offers
on the defensive side. Texas Tech offered him as an
outside linebacker. University of Houston has offered him as a safety,
you know, And I know one of the conversations that
him and I have had, and I know that some
of these schools who were trying to sell him or
(33:07):
are trying to present to him, the opportunity to play
on defense is just a transition to the NFL and
the size of the safeties and dbs that the NFL
have been drafting lately and trying to get him to
understand how his size would transition to that. So I
don't think that he is close to it right I know,
right now his heart is a receiver, but I do
know that he enjoys playing defense enough that he would
(33:29):
make the transition. And I think ultimately Davis is the
type of kid that he's going to do what's best
for his team, you know. So if coach says, hey,
you know you could work at wide receiver, you can
get on the field at defensive back, then most likely
you're going to see Davis at defensive back, you know.
I know the dream might be to hopefully play on
Sundays one day, So if that's the best transition for
him to get to the big dance on Sundays, then
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that may be something that he'll do. But you know,
Davis is going to do what's best for the team.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
I know that much.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
I gest in my life saying, Clayton, if you could
to share a little bit with things. So so we
talked a lot about his athletic abilities and all like that.
But also his family must be really, really strong academically.
He's got a brother playing football at Columbia, got an
offer to go to the Ivy League school himself. Just
how big are or how important academics to him and
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his family.
Speaker 9 (34:20):
So mom and dad are big on academics, you know,
especially Mom. She's a nurse and been in the medical
field for many, many years. So you know, that's one
thing that she's always kind of preached to the boys
about being able to, you know, have high grades and
having many doors open for you because of what you
do academically. You know, his older brother, Carter, who like
you said, played plays at Columbia, had a really great
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GPA for us at Cornerstone. He was the freshman defensive
Newcomer of the Year at Columbia, you know, so I
believe that Carter was even on the visit with him.
So that's always good when you have an older brother
who is at an ivy league understands the pool daily
between ed education and athletics and can kind of help
walk you through that on your official visit, you know.
(35:05):
But ultimately, whatever blueprint the mccraids have in place, it's
working because both of us have been very successful academically
and athletically.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Well, Clayton, we appreciate you joining us this morning to
talk a little bit about Davis and we look forward
to have them on campus.
Speaker 9 (35:20):
No, thank thank you, guys. I'm glad you guys you
know had me on. I mean, Davis is a phenomenal
athlete and I'm super excited. You know, our whole program
is really excited to watch what he does at the
next level at UK, So it'll be great.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
All right, Thank you, coach, keep up the good work.
Speaker 9 (35:37):
Thank you guys, have a great day.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Thank you. We will continue this show after this.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
You are listening to Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk
on News Radio six thirty WLAP.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
This is the home of the Wildcats, six thirty WLAP.
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony
White along with Larry vat.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Clouds. The sky is very very dark.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
Now.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
I think I'm almost certain these are cumulat nimbus clouds,
not that I've seen them. I've only seen them in
the like on a book, like illustrated, not the real thing,
but it is. Those clouds are smoky gray looking and
it's just hovering over top of Clark's Main Street market studios.
iHeart studio. But Larry Vaugh, thank you for setting up
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Coach Guillory. I'm very excited to have Davis McCrae here.
Guy seems like a well rounded guy, and his athletic
statistics and measurements are off, as the youngsters would say nowadays,
are off the chains.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
I like that, off the change. I hadn't heard that.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
That's good.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Yeah you shouldn't. They don't. They probably won't talk like
that over.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
In Danville, probably or not, probably not around me.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
I did want to ask you really quickly before we
go to break, because we come back, we're gonna have
a We're gonna have walk Hawthorn, Braiden's dad on. But
I didn't want to ask you that the profit sharing thing.
Did any of that stuff that Jack told you about
the profit sharing come across as it's interesting, it's more interesting.
(37:14):
I thought, I didn't realize colleges could opt out. But
then you've got colleges like Texas A and M who
have all the money, like so it doesn't really matter,
like they can funnel the money wherever they wanted to go.
But are you more intrigued about some of the details
that Barnhard has discussed Now?
Speaker 4 (37:32):
I don't understand any of it, Anthony, I'll be first
admit I can't discuss it. I thought at one time
it was supposed to be coming out of the TV
money that the school's got, and it was supposed to
be going to different parts of the athletic program. I
thought volleyball and gymnastics and sports like that, we're going
to get some of it. You don't even hear them
maybe being mentioned as getting a piece of the pie,
not even a sliver of the pile. All you hear
(37:53):
is football, men's basketball, and women's basketball, baseball. I don't
hear anything about the others. I thought they were all
going to get something and benefit from this. So I
don't get it, don't understand it, probably don't. I shouldn't
say I don't like it because I don't understand enough
about it. But it's an awful lot of money. They're
just going to change everything and the sports that I
(38:15):
grew up watching and knowing. And I know it's just
typical old guy talk. Things are going to change, but
it just seems like now it's just gonna be all
about the money. I mean, and that's just gonna be
the bottom line.
Speaker 6 (38:26):
Now.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
I don't blame people for that, because in the real
world that's usually what it's all about. But it's certainly
got to make significant changes. And I don't understand it
because I thought everybody's supposed to get a little bit
of it. But it sure doesn't sound like it.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
That's not what I heard Larry Vault. Like I said,
I think it kind of goes like Jack said. I
think if there's twenty thousand, I mean twenty million, I
think football is supposed to get about sixty percent of it,
sixty or seven, So I would assume they would get
probably twelve fourteen, thirteen fourteen. Basketball, we'll probably get three
(39:00):
or four, and then there will probably be two or
three million to this distribute amongst the other sports.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
I think most of SEC schools are going to get
football sixteen to seventy million.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Well, yeah, I heard that, but I also heard the
number was twenty twenty two million, So when Jack said
twenty point five, that kind of changed it for me.
But when we come back, we'll have what Hawthorn, father
of Brad Hawthorn UK Basketball. We'll be back after this.
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