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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the home of the Wildcats. Six thirty WLAP
Welcome Back, Stockyards.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Bank, Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony White along with
Jack Pilgrim and Larry Vault, coming to you from Clark's
Main Street Market Studios and beautiful downtown Lexington, Kentucky. Return,
Refresh and Refuel, Jack Pilgrim. You nineteen USA basketball playing
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playing over in Switzerland. I don't even know what time
it is over there, And Nephew Jaspers pat to step back.
I got a couple questions kind of about Kobe Brale
leaving and what Jasper's doing, but talk about what it
was Jasper doing over in you nineteen team. Is he
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Is he living up to expectations, proceeding expectations.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Yeah, I think he, you know, met them.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
I think he was just the first the first game
for him to you know, kind of get his feet
wet and you know play alongside that other elite talent
and against other you know, strong talent worldwide. So yeah,
I think he did a pretty good job. One of
the core guards of that group over there as a
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twelve member roster, and he's you know, one of the
you know, main guys in that rotation. So I think, yeah,
I think he did, you know, pretty well, scored six
points in the first game, and then yeah, he plays
again this afternoon and then four three four more times
throughout the this week. So really cool opportunity for him,
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and you know, representing Kentucky on the world stage.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I think it's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Is there a you happen to know? I'm sorry to
put you on spot. Do you happen to know? If
anybody wants to catch the games, is there without having
a boot leg or a hookup that you can watch
the game?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yeah, they're They're all on YouTube.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
The Foeba account does a really good job of just
going and phoeba YouTube and every game is streamed live
in real time, and not just the USA games, all
of them across all of the you know other in
the other countries in the tournament. They're all included in
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the streams the replays, so if you missed yesterday's game,
you can go watch that one. And then they play
again today this afternoon. So I think they're playing France,
So yeah, it's it's cool, cool operation. I think two pm,
Jasper's playing again on on YouTube, so make sure you
go go to the foeba account and go go check
them out, no fee free, totally free you have just
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like any other YouTube channels.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Free ninety nine is the best price you can get
it for both, So go check out Young Jasper. But
speaking of Young Jasper, my correlation to Kobe Brea was
Kobe bred worked his way into a draft pick, which
come in here as Larry yourself, we all have stated
was not something that can happen. Look at our roster
coming in next year, just because I'm close to Jasper,
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and you know, I kind of look at our rosters
when when the guys come, look at what they've done
at other levels or other schools, because now we're doing
the transfer portal thing quite frequently. Does that put a
lot of weight on Jasper? The what Kobe did this
year and the expectation and how we influenced our offense
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and how he had our offense go and how he
spread the floor or do you think there're those two
things are no correlation at all. Kobe is a great
shooter that Jasper can come in and just be Jasper,
Or does Jasper has to do because we only have
one simple size from last year? Does Jasper have to
come in and do what Kobe did last year in
order from Mark Pope to second year, Like, Okay, I've
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been here before, Let's keep this roll and let me
just plug Jasper into that Kobe position. Or can Jasper
just come in to be Jasper? Or do you think
he's gonna be asked to emulate Kobe?
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Well, I think he can come in and just be Jasper.
But I also think that Marf Hope is putting the
expectation out there when he uses words like superstar, most
dangerous score in high school basketball all of last season,
that Marc has put that label on him, and he
is saying Jasper has to be really good for them
to be good. So I think Mark is established that
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that's the expectation he has for Jasper. I hope he's right.
That's a lot to put on a building. Last I
had a chance to talk to Mark. He said he
wouldn't say that about somebody if he didn't think they
could handle it, And he said Jasper could handle it
just just fine. So I hope that he's right and
giving the experience like what he's getting now, hopefully it'll
be good for him. I know it wasn't an easy
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decision for him to give up about three weeks with
his new UK team to go do this, but that
he wanted to go do it. Hopefully his mom and
dad get their air trouble straightened out now actually get
there to day where they can watch him play. So
but overall, I think Jasper. I don't think pressure bothers
Jasper and never will.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Jack. I don't. I don't know if I absolutely agree
with Larry. I agree with Larry.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I won't Jasper toy be Jasper and I think Jasper,
and I think the coach you have to You can't
ask a player to beat somebody they're not And Kobe,
people don't shoot the way Kobe shoots forty percent from
three point range. You just don't. People don't wake up
and just do that. Although I thought we struggled at
times this year before Pope got here, the thing was
we knew that the guards we had two years ago
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could not shoot, so we just clogged the lane like
we You can run whatever offenses you want, you just
have to knock down outside shots. And I think Larry
Vault is down playing Jack Pilgrim. I think Larry Vaut
is down playing the need in Mark Pope's offense for
somebody to spread the floor so people can't just pack
the lane and we because at that point, whenever people's
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running through the lane, cutting or just running offense through
the lane, they're just gonna people just gonna be fore
arming them and just mucking it up in there. And
if you want to beat us and beat it from outside.
Looking at the roster, the way the roster is set up,
it looks like if you're gonna count on somebody based
off of what I've seen and what Mark Pope is
saying that, I think Jasper is that guy who you're
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gonna count on a knockdown outside shots. I don't know
if we have a ton of people who can knock
down all side shots, is what I'm saying. And Larry
Vaught seems to think that, huh, we'll just let Jasper.
I think Jasper's gonna be asked and required to knock
down outside shots just so Mark Pope can continue to
run his offenses.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I think the comparison is Jackson Robinson. I think that's
kind of the role that they recruited him to play
and to kind of take on, you know, where he
can do some on ball stuff, and create and you know,
if the situation calls for a while also being kind
of a you know, catch and shoot, in stride and
transition kind kind of player. I think, you know, they
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want him. You know, they recruited Jackson from BYU to
be the superstar off Year's team, and you know, I
don't think we should be expecting him to be a
twenty point per game score from day.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
One or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
But I think just that type of role where hey,
we're not gonna you know, shove you in a box
and say you're limited to you know, this this specific role.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
We can put you in a bunch of.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Different places to succeed, and we trust that you're going
to be the guy to help us get there. So yeah,
I think he could be Kobe in the sense of like, hey,
that's going to be a lot of shooting opportunities for him,
and we trust that he's going to make a lot
of those shots. But Jackson more so is like, hey,
we're not He's not just going to be a catch
and shoot guy. He can do you know, put it
on the floor, you know, score and transition, you know,
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long wingspan for for defense, things like that. I think
Sky Sky is a limit for our nephew Jasper in Lexington.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
And before we go to break and move on to
talking football, because if we do have some football stuff
coming up, and Larry Vach called me the task on
social media as if I don't know who Jim Diapolis is,
as if he did not teach me while I was
in college, and he did not officiate our spring games
and our spring practices. But I'm not gonna hold that
against Larry Vaud because Larry Vau don't know who I know,
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because Larry Vaught don't run in the circles I'm running
with Jack.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
But I did want to have asked you.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
You've mis understood. You've mis understood that I didn't. I
didn't know if you knew that I trained under Jim Theopolis.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Ah ah okay, So I will I will give you that.
I will give you that.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
But where are Jack Pilgrim Before we get to that,
Where where are we at UK basketball? Where's it that
uh the program at now? And and does not that
I want to continue to harp on with Jasper as
an individual, but he's not involved with the team right now.
But what is what's going on with the team right now?
Speaker 3 (08:46):
In this summer.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
We're two weeks through where they knocked out two weeks
of summer workouts out of eight. You know, now is
the time for them to you know, learn each other
and get the team chemistry and like, hey, what does
this guy do well? What you know, what positions is
he best at, you know, succeeding? Where can we make
him uncomfortable so he'll be you know, comfortable when the
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season starts. All of those kind of questions are being answered.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Right now. We're getting some some.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Real five on five pickup you know games, and we're
starting to get some of those whispers of guys that
are you know, maybe emerging and separating themselves. I've heard
really good things about kind of the main core UH
trio of of incoming transfers, Jalen Lowe, Modia Bate, and
Denzel l Aberte, And I think there's kind of just
a you know, hey, we invested a lot of money
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in these guys to bring them in the portal. Let's
hope that the you know, juice is worth the squeeze there,
and you know, the investment is going to be worthwhile.
And I think the the reviews have been, you know,
pretty pretty positive. Thus far. I think Modia Bate is
a you know, just kind of a strong, grown man's strength,
you know, you know, positional versatility and you know, you know,
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high level defense, the defensive talent and kind of just
plug and play, do it all kind of kind of player.
I think there's a lot, you know, kind of riding
on him to just be the glue guy on this team,
and I think he's done that thus far. And Jalen Lowe,
you know, so many questions about his efficiency and some
of the things you know, struggled and the numbers weren't
very pretty last season at pitt Ken being in a
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better system kind of working his advantage with better talent
around him and a better system and style of play
that's more player friendly, and I think that that's been
the case up to this point. So and I've also
heard good things about Braden Hawthorne. I think that's kind
of been a surprise to me that you know, he
stepped in and has done some interesting stuff. You know,
I'm not expecting him to be a you know, high
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level rotation guy year one, but I think the tools
are definitely there, and there's a lot of excitement internally
about what he can be down the road.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Did I hear you say number nine?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
What all that excitement, all that all that excitement you
did you say number nine in there?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I didn't not say it.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
I think that's definitely something that I think now is
the time this Austin. You know, you you heard good
things last last offseason, but there's kind of that like
ceiling of Hey, it's a really good team, They're going
to win a ton of games, but like, you know, well,
we'll feel really good about you know, an Elite eight
like where we kind of feel like we're you know,
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definitely a second weekend team. We really want to get
to the Elite eight and if things the ball bounces
our way, you know, we could see in the make
a final four. But that wasn't the expectation this time
last offseason. I think with a group that they've built,
and especially you know, when Jayden Quaintons gets you know,
back on track, when he gets at full strength, Jasper
gets in so they get to see how he works
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with the rest of that group. I think that they
are definitely viewing this team internally as a as a
championship contender.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
That is Jack Pilgrim in this past weekend twenty twenty
five Kentucky Professional Football Hall of Fame class was in Dutch.
That we will talk about that when we come back.
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Speaker 1 (12:07):
This is the home of the Wildcats. Six thirty WLAP.
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony
White along with Larry Vaught and Jack Pilgrim. Stockyards Bank
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banking and financial needs. And as we were talking before
we went to break, the twenty twenty five Kentucky Professional
Football Hall of Fame class was announced. Michael Bush, Jim Diopolis,
Jim Grew, Dason, Danny Trevathan and what you areski Larry
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Vaught you brought up earlier that and so Jim, was
he a professor at some point or did he just
teach an officiating class? When I was there, he was.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
A over in the physical education over the Seaton Center.
I don't know if you if you turned him a
professor or coordinator or what exactly. I know I didn't
have him for an officiating class I had. By classes,
I had a guy with the name of Scooter Johnson.
If you remember him, I do not. The gym was
always the supervisor that assigned us at the games, that
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kind of made sure we got paid and took care
of us. And I always remember the best advice that
he gave me in those intermural games was, Hey, you're
going to get paid no matter what. So somebody gives
you trouble, just throw him out of the game and
stop the game. You still get your paycheck, he said,
Want you to do that a time or two. Reputation
get to established. Nobody messes with it because they know
if they do, they don't get to play. And sure enough,
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that may buy you officiating days pretty easy under Jim.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
And I see, I that's that is great advice, but
I can't. When I met him, he we were he
was officiating our spring practice, not a game like when
you do seven on seven, and he just was officiating
different aspects of our practice. And he was always really informative.
He would give you advice. He's one of the nicest
guys I ever met. So when I met him, so
when I had a class with him, he was really
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still really nice, so I really can't see him having
rigid bones in his body or you know. The ended
to be a tough nosed guy. The reason I liked him,
although I know Big Blue Nations are fan based, doesn't
really like referees in general, but when I was like,
I never really found a reason like a referee. But
he was at practice every day, every drill, and he would,
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you know, be really nice next time, don't use your
hands or make sure you do this, and I was
just like, so I really looked up to him, and
I really appreciate the things he've done. So Jim, if
you're out there listening, I appreciate everything you've done for me.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
But go ahead, Larry, yeah, say he was a great guy.
Couldn't have found a better person to be around, and
went on, it was just terrific at what he did
in the NFL. And I think he's still around like
it and now he is.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
Tom Leach Hadham on this past week on his show
and if you want to learn something about football, and
he's very likable too, very very likable, just hang around
Jim Deopolis. So congrats to him. So you had Tom
Leach had him on? How long he had him on.
I think it was Wednesday morning.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
I'm going to go check that.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
Yeah, Speaker dot com, w l A p or Tom
Leashky dot com is where you can check that out
at Jack Pilgrim.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Have you ever met Jim Dappolis Michael Bush. I don't know.
Maybe you met Michael Bush.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Just because he's from Louisville, so that might be more
of your speed because you I think you may have
been growing up a Louisville kid out of Eastern High School.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
No, but I saw him run for seventy eight thousand
yards of Kentucky every year, so I saw plenty, plenty
of him. But yeah, Danny Trevathan one of my favorite
favorite Kentucky football players of all time. Just a very
cool honor for all of those guys. But yeah, unfortunately
I still have nightmares to this day about Michael Bush
and what he did did dark casts.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
And speaking of like his name comes up, I don't.
I don't think so much of Wesley Willier because he
was a household name here, he was loved, beloved here.
Uh is Danny Travathan in that in that thing you
in that in that arena you were talking about? We're
talking about nas Mohammed and uh, I can't remember the
center from Toronto that we were talking about before. Uh,
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Jamal mcglure. Is Danny Trevathan in that were you like,
he had a long career, he was solid. Nobody really
ever talks about him a whole lot, kind of like
Corey Peterson, Cory Peterson.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Yeah, I think Danny Trevathan, man, he carved out a
heck of an NFL career and you know kind of
like the Jacob Tammy's and those those guys where they
just found a you know, found a trusted you know
program and and and culture and you know kind of
established themselves quickly as a as a you know, a
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staple of those locker rooms, and they just could you know,
couldn't bear to part with them.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
You know, they were so valuable, you.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Know, whether they were racking up you know, one hundred
tackles in a season or a dozen, but they were
just so consistently productive and you know staples of that
that you know, as a leader and those things that Yeah,
Dan Sravathan belongs in any type of you know, big
time you know Kentucky Football Pro conversation.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Larry Vaud Did you have any idea just watching Danny's
vaithan at Kentucky that this would be his endpoint, or
as Jack said, that he would have that much longevity
in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
No, I would say you not for Hamburg Jacob Tammy either.
But I'll also never forget the time when Chuck Smith,
who was a linebackers coach Kentucky at the time, Kyle
and told me he just recruited a superstar out of Florida,
and I thought, wow, he looked up the kid's name.
Think you weighed one hundred and seventy pounds like that?
And I thought, my god. I knew Chuck was a
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good coach, but I don't know what he's talking about.
But the way that Danny could run when they got
her to Kentucky and put some weight on him, I
didn't like you say, yeah, he was just magnificent, and he.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Came behind so many people who came. I can't remember
who was between him and Wesley Woodyard. Wesley Woodyard came,
then there's another backer before him and the or it
may have been somebody before Wesley, but I remember talking
to Wesley Woodyard, who's.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
That that been?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
When Braxton Kelly was there, Braxton was alongside Wesley.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
What about Avery Williams.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Now Avery Williamson is the guy I'm thinking about it. Yeah, yeah,
So anyway, and all those guys were, you know, solid
SEC players, but I don't think there were SEC like
household names. But then when he came to the NFL
time they those guys had played for years. I think
they the shortest tenure was probably seven eight years. Maybe Avery,
Avery might have been ten. They may have all been
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ten years, which is reridiculous, but that's it's what you expecting.
Larry Vaugh said, this is Football State. We produced football teams.
If you would like to join the show eight five
to nine to eight zero two to eight seven eight
five nine to eight zero cast.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Thanks Jack Pilgrim for joining us.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Follow Jack Pilgrim on Twitter, X whatever you call this
social media, Jack Pilgrim KSR.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
We will be back after this.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
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Speaker 1 (19:19):
This is the home of the Wildcats, six thirty WLAP.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. Come Anthony
White along with Larry Vault. This hour of Sunday Morning
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Congratulations to everyone who's in the Kentucky Professional Football Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
That was inducted Friday Friday. Because I was.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Invited, but I never turned in my things, so I
didn't remember what it was and I looked on online
it was, oh, that was this weekend, so I missed
the deadline.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
Is that open to the public to buy tickets?
Speaker 3 (20:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I would think not. I would think not. I would
think it's invitation only, Larry, Why would you know any differently.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
I think it is open to the public if you'd
like to buy a ticket.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
Yes, So I think it is too because I thought
about going and I heard something like tickets were already
sold out, so I didn't even try. But it's something
I would like to go to. But would it be
something you just buy tickets to or do you buy
a table? That's where That's where I'm kind of because
I know some of the names and some of the
people I know that were invited. I'm not certain that
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you just rub elbows with Derrick Ramsey and some of
those guys like that are minded Dawson and like to
be in the building. To see.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
No.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Well, I mean typically when there are are those types
like celebrity events, I thought they were had they had
to be invitation because you are going to be sitting
at tables with I don't know, maybe I'm overthinking this thing.
I don't go to those type of things really too much.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
I think it'd be need to at least go to
one hall of fame just to see those legends being inducted.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Let me ask you this, do you think that Bo
and I will get invited when they finally put you
in the UK Athletics Hall of Fame where you belong? Antony? Why?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Larry Vaugh sadly enough and Bo is a month older
than me, I think, sadly enough, Larry Vaught, none of
us will probably be alive.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Don't say that all right?
Speaker 5 (21:32):
Say that, yeah, because my days are number. Don't even
joke about that. So my days are a lot more
number than you're off.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I'm not joking. Things are not going to get better, Larry.
What you do know, I'm not going to amass any
more yards, right, So I'm not going to be any
more marketable in twenty thirty than I was in twenty
twenty oh five. In two thousand and five.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
That's a fair point, but you deserve to be in
there for a while. I'll keep I'll keep preaching it
as long as they let me preach well.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I appreciate that as one of what as one of
only two players in UK's history to catch two hundred footballs,
I agree with you so.
Speaker 6 (22:08):
But and I'm on that platform too. You should be
in the UK Hall of Fame. Well, keep living, well, don't.
Let's make sure this doesn't happen too late, as you
just alluded to, because you and I were talking during
the break about Dave Parker passing away and Dave's going
to be inducted into Cooperstown in July, and when I
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was kind of reading things over the weekend about Dave Parker,
was like, it's too late. Yeah, just and we kind
of learned it about Pete Rose two back in October
and we had that discussion. It's just I hate when
these things are too late and somebody dies, somebody passes away.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Dave Parker. But Dave Parking, did he He didn't have controversy,
did he? I think I know.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
Larry helped me out. I think there was a little
bit of controversy when he was in Pittsburgh at some point.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Yeah, I don't remember exactly what, but he he had
some shoes I don't remember. But like I said, I
loved him when he was with the Reds. Oh yeah,
when he was with the Pirates.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Two times two time batting champions seventy seven, seventy eight,
Dave Perkit and you and and this was announced prior
to bow if you're his induction to the Hall of
Fame was announced prior to his passing because it was
just yesterday, so I'm assuming it would happen for But
Wikipedia stays on top of stuff. I remember when Joker
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Phillips got fired, it changed like whenever the news hit
and locally it had him as former coach like within
the next twenty thirty minutes. So Wikipedia don't mess around.
Speaker 6 (23:44):
Both people don't mess around. Get those Wiki entries in there.
But you know what, Dave Parker, growing up as a
Reds fan, they didn't get any bigger than Dave Parker
with the Reds. Dude was like sixty five, two hundred
and thirty five pounds and he could smashed the ball.
That's a big old dude, I want huge.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
And you've met him.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
Before I don't think I have. And I grew up
going to plenty of Reds games, just living twenty miles
south of Cincinnati, and I don't think I ever met
Dave Parker. I know I have a ton of his
cards in my collection, but I can't think of a
time where we came across each other.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
I would like the Reds games. I would like to
know if Mark Berger's have ever met him?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
The Kobra? Why do they call him the Kobra? Larry
Vay why they called him the Cobra?
Speaker 5 (24:32):
It was cool and strike.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Nik clever? That is that is.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Larry Voss speaking of past and other people that we
haven't heard from in a while, and just some legends.
Uh what is actually before we get we don't have
Darius Miller on a little bit later, but uh, what
did I know you've talked to him? What has Darius
Miller been up to nowadays? Is he back in Lexington?
And what is a.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
Yeah, of course he finished his playing career in twenty
twenty one, that's what the really he's under which so
he played with Shay in the in the NBA. So
that was the last year he played in the NBA
was two thousand and twenty one, and he's been around
Lexing now for a couple of years and it's just
about are partnered. I don't know exactly whether he's the owner,
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the general manager or what of what used to be
the basketball facility or is the basketball facility out there
by the mall, but it's going to be named, I
think renamed now Alumni Hall, and Darius will be on
here to kind of tell us about some of the
projects that he has playing, what he hopes to do
out there and all going forward. But he's got a
couple of young children. I think they both are athletes,
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so he tell us about that a little bit too.
I think he used to enjoy watching them.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Are you saying he just stopped in twenty twenty one.
I thought he was done way before that, or a
couple of years before that.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Now, if you remember when when he came out of
the UK, played with the New Orleans franchise for a
couple of years, then he went overseas for a couple
of years, and he came back to the Pelicans from
I think it was twenty seventeen twenty twenty, and then
he played his last year with the Oklahoma cities under.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
And he's talking about somebody, and that is somebody who
carved himself out of a great currier because I didn't know
he came back to the States and played in the
NBA some more after going overseas a lot that doesn't
happen very often. But I think he was one of
maybe the most underrated one was one of the most
underrated UK basketball players because he was fundamentally sound. He
can do everything. You can plug him and play them
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at several different positions, maybe anything other than center. You
can probably plug him in and play it. But like
I said, that's just a name. You really don't hear
a whole lot. But then I think he gets his
just do when you say something like he has. Last
year in the NBA was twenty twenty one, and I
had no idea he played that long. But that was
one person I always that's always been in the back
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of my mind. But I'm like, man, that guy was solid, consistent,
and you know, he's never really in a whole lot
of conversations, but the guy could really play ball.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Yeah, stop and think about this, Anthony. He's the only
player in Kentucky to be named mister Basketball. Winn State
championship and then win a national championship. Also, he was
also the player if you remember in twenty twelve Kentucky
won the national championship, he was the one that gave
President of Barack Obama the frame jersey or the jersey
when Kentucky got there. So he actually, you know, interacted
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with the president. Not many of us can ever say
he did anything like like that. So and he also
still I think this is right, Bo still holds a
record for the most games played at the University of
Kentucky with one hundred and fifty one. One hundred and
fifty two broke Wayne Turner's record on that. So just
a remarkable guy. And I think of some of the
players he played with just Kentucky. He was there with
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Jody Baks, He was there with John wall He was
there with Debarcus Cousins. He was there with Patrick Patterson,
was there with Anthony Davis. He was there with Michael
kil Christ, he was there with Brandon Knight. Just think
of the guys he just played with in his four
years at Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
And I know I may not be a savvy, was
he there and I'm I want to think that did
he did he cross over Rajean? Was he not a
freshman when Rajion Rondou was here?
Speaker 5 (28:21):
No? No, Unfortunately Darius came in with Billy G.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Wow, wait a minute, Ragean Rondo was here when I
came back to school, though, and Billy G came in?
Speaker 3 (28:36):
What year? Do you know? Are you familiar?
Speaker 5 (28:40):
Rondo wasn't playing when you came Are you talking about
when you came to school the Rondo was playing with? Yeah,
Rondo played all his years for Tubby. For he's two
years for Tubby.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I thought maybe I came with the last year. So
did Rondo ever play with Romeo or Raley?
Speaker 7 (28:58):
No?
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Okay, you sure? I think that's what I think he
got that confused. I think he did play with him.
Remeal Brad Well.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
You look it up and see I'm pretty sure he
did not, Because.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
I so who did in the back court? Did you
know that there was some uh some tension in the
back court, not off off the court Sparks Sparks and
Rondo and Rondo. Yes, oh okay, that's probably what it was.
Then I thought that it was Remeal and Rondo who
did not get along.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
No, he played two years at Kentucky. Uh, I think
he played in two thousand and he's third. He came
as a freshman two thousand and four, then left after
a sophomore after the two thousand and five two thousand
and sixth season. Then I think for Mail and Joe Crawford.
Don't think those guys came in the next season. I believe.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Okay, see, you probably know better than I do. Don't
get him an old Larry. That's the first thing that goes.
Speaker 6 (29:59):
One question about Darius Miller, sir, go ahead. Was he
the glue guy to keep that twenty twelve team together?
And if not, do they not win the national championship?
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Absolutely? That was the point I made originally. Okay, you
plugged him anywhere, we did everything. Yeah, so no matter
what player needed a break or injurying, no matter what
player needed a break, you can plug him in at
almost every position and not lose a beat because he
was consistent and solid at every all four positions on
the floor.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
He was at TBT last year for a few of
the games, and one you could tell he was having
a blast. But people loved seeing Darius Miller at Reperena
for the TBT game. So I'm glad he's back, and
I'm glad he's kind of taking a role in all
of this.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
If you're a Kentucky fan, he's a guy you should
get behind. I mean, State's owned. He's one of the
guys that if you can't get behind anything Kentucky, it
is Darius.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Go ahead, Larry go.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
One of the best smiles of any player that ever
played at Kentucky. But you don't know why he's really
one of my all all all time favorite guys.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
M Because he played in March Well, I mean because
he played in Marshall County hoopest.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
No, it is better than that, because when Kentucky won
the twenty twelve national championship. That's why the place where
I used to work full time, we did a book
on Kentucky's national championship and they turned it over and
got it out within about a week and a half.
And when they did, we had two book signings on
a Saturday morning, one and damp On one in Nicholasvield
and guess who came to both of them and helped
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us promote it and stayed there for it.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
So he did.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
He couldn't call it from being debts.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
He couldn't call the front office and tell him whenever
they made decisions about your future. He couldn't call them
and change the course of any of that.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
That guy was taking phone calls from anybody. It wouldn't
matter who you were. He wouldn't do any phone calls.
His decision was firm. It wasn't it coming there with
any reasons to Nope, it was done.
Speaker 6 (32:02):
That's a great book about the twenty twelve team. And
I'll tell you this, Larry, maybe you remember, but when
it came out, I went over to justph Beth at
Lexington Green and I was looking at that front table
there with all the UK bucks, and I hear this
voice saying it's a pretty good book right there, and
I turned around. It was Larry Vault, and he suckered
me into buying it immediately.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
You were you were back. So it's a great book.
Great book.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Let's hurry up really quickly and get over to big
ass Fans hotline and see what Dennis has to say.
Good morning, Dennis, what do you got for us?
Speaker 7 (32:41):
Along? Keep beating this drum? I heard again KSR. Friday,
Matt Jones and talking about how that Kentucky will won't
be putting in the same amounts and the revenue sharing
if football is rest the SEC because they've got to
get more to back basketball. And again, if our athletics
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director does not give the same percentage as the rest
is the SEC teams does the football, that's a death sentence, sir,
our football program. How can we hold any coach accountable
if he has if he doesn't have the resources as
the rest of the SEC teams do. How can you
hold a coach accountable? And how can you ever hire
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another coach if you're not going to have a commitment
to football. And I you know, I grew up loving
to take a basketball as much as anybody, But I
cannot pull for a basketball program that's going to take
away from my football program. And I don't I don't
even know if I should renew my football tickets that
this is going to be true.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
That's a knee jerk reaction. Benefit.
Speaker 7 (33:48):
Why should I? Why should I? Why should I give
to a football program when the athletic director does not
want to give the same percentage and revenue sharing as
the rest is the SCC teams do because he wants
to get more to the basketball program. I have a
big big feat.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
I don't know if that's a fact. I'm gonna have
to check in with Larry Vall. I don't know if
that's the fact. Dennis and I would not jump ship
on the football program.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
I would.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
I mean, you can get on the edge if just
to be prepared to, but I wouldn't jump ship. And
I wouldn't take all that as fact.
Speaker 5 (34:20):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
And here's one other thing you want to ask yourself
to Dennis. I know it's changed over the past couple
of years, but there's really in the history of the SEC,
there's really no basketball programs that have the history we do,
so it wouldn't be the same.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Duke is not. You think Duke's football is going to
get it.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
They're they're gonna split there is the same as they're
gonna split with their football team. The basketball and football
team gonna split it equally as we do in SEC.
Speaker 7 (34:49):
I don't really understand what you're asking.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Kentucky basketball brand is bigger than our football brand, the
same way Duke's basketball brand is bigger than their football brand.
I'm not saying a larger saying they're doing. They're not
doing a larger percentage. You're just saying we're not splitting
equally like the other SEC football teams.
Speaker 7 (35:05):
Right, well, you've got I mean, if you're going to
compete in football football, let's get football is while it
brings in the revenues that great. That's the reason why
we have these big TV packages is because of football.
It's not because of basketball. Let's get real here. It's
because of football, is why we have the big, big
TV packages.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Now.
Speaker 7 (35:26):
Football brings into big revenue. If we're not going to
get the same percentage of revenue as as arrest of
the SEC teams do when they're going to show commitment
to win in football, how can you hold a coach
at the University of Entucky accountable for the performance on
the field when he's at when he's not given the
same the same revenue or whatever to win as rest
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of the SEC team football team sits? How can you
hold him accountable?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
No argument, Dennis, I appreciate the call. We have the
head to a break. I hate to cut you off.
I'm not doing have a argument what you're saying. I
do not argue what you're saying. Larry and I talk
about it when we come back from the break a
little bit, because we won't have a whole lot of time.
But I do hear what you're saying, Dennis. I hear
you loud and clear. You're listen. Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning
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Speaker 1 (36:14):
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Speaker 2 (36:18):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk on Anthony
White along with Larry Vaught talking to Kentucky Athletics revenue
sharing Larry Vaught And it's a lot of hear Satan
And like I said, Dennis has been harping on this
for a couple of weeks now, and I can say
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I don't disagree with them. I also don't think Mark
Stoops or Mitch Barnhart. I know Mitch Barnhart is tight,
extremely tight, but I don't think but being tight does
not mean that you're that you're that you're not going
to delegate the money as it should be delegated. I
mean tired as if you don't have to spend money,
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He's not gonna spend it. But the money has to
be spent because it's allocated. So have you are you
hearing what Dennis is hearing? Because he's been pretty strong
about it, and I know KSR. It's sometimes based on facts,
sometimes not. And I don't know if it's even a
public it may just be public record.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
But well, yeah, I think it's going to happen, and
I think Dennis is right, is going to be. It's
going to make it difficult. It's going to make it
harder for Kentucky if you don't have the same budget
that somebody else has in football. It's also the perception
of it. If I'm recruiting, if Kentucky's recruiting Anthony White,
and say Tennessee is recruiting Anthony White, and the Tennessee
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coaches come and say it's White. You know that a
team at Kentucky, they don't even put as much money
into the programs what we do. That shows you who
cares the most, And that's going to be a perception
issue they'll have to deal with. But as you said,
Kentucky basketball is a different brand, and the Kentucky basketball
basketball or the revenue budget needs to be what they
can compa against with some teams like Duke and Kansas
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who aren't going to put as much money into football
because they don't have to. So it's a difficult I
don't know what the answer is, but there's a lot
of twist and turns coming with us. And I don't
know if you saw on Twitter or not that you
were right. Romel and Rondo did play one year together.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
And that was a year I was talking about because
I was an agaight or I was a cover study Hall.
But when we come back, we'll have Darius Miller. He
didn't play with him, but that's Kentucky's favorite son. Darius
Miller will be on with us at the top of
the hour. You're listening to Stockyards Bank Sunday morning sports
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This is the home of the Wildcats. Six thirty WLAP
Welcome Back, Stockyards.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Bank, Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony White along with
Jack Pilgrim and Larry Vault, coming to you from Clark's
Main Street Market Studios and beautiful downtown Lexington, Kentucky. Return,
Refresh and Refuel, Jack Pilgrim. You nineteen USA basketball playing
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playing over in Switzerland. I don't even know what time
it is over there, And Nephew Jaspers pat to step back.
I got a couple questions kind of about Kobe Brale
leaving and what Jasper's doing, but talk about what it
was Jasper doing over in you nineteen team. Is he
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Is he living up to expectations, proceeding expectations.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Yeah, I think he, you know, met them.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
I think he was just the first the first game
for him to you know, kind of get his feet
wet and you know play alongside that other elite talent
and against other you know, strong talent worldwide. So yeah,
I think he did a pretty good job. One of
the core guards of that group over there as a
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twelve member roster, and he's you know, one of the
you know, main guys in that rotation. So I think, yeah,
I think he did, you know, pretty well, scored six
points in the first game, and then yeah, he plays
again this afternoon and then four three four more times
throughout the this week. So really cool opportunity for him,
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and you know, representing Kentucky on the world stage.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I think it's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Is there a you happen to know? I'm sorry to
put you on spot. Do you happen to know? If
anybody wants to catch the games, is there without having
a boot leg or a hookup that you can watch
the game?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yeah, they're They're all on YouTube.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
The Foeba account does a really good job of just
going and phoeba YouTube and every game is streamed live
in real time, and not just the USA games, all
of them across all of the you know other in
the other countries in the tournament. They're all included in
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the streams the replays, so if you missed yesterday's game,
you can go watch that one. And then they play
again today this afternoon. So I think they're playing France,
So yeah, it's it's cool, cool operation. I think two pm,
Jasper's playing again on on YouTube, so make sure you
go go to the foeba account and go go check
them out, no fee free, totally free you have just
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like any other YouTube channels.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Free ninety nine is the best price you can get
it for both, So go check out Young Jasper. But
speaking of Young Jasper, my correlation to Kobe Brea was
Kobe bred worked his way into a draft pick, which
come in here as Larry yourself, we all have stated
was not something that can happen. Look at our roster
coming in next year, just because I'm close to Jasper,
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and you know, I kind of look at our rosters
when when the guys come, look at what they've done
at other levels or other schools, because now we're doing
the transfer portal thing quite frequently. Does that put a
lot of weight on Jasper? The what Kobe did this
year and the expectation and how we influenced our offense
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and how he had our offense go and how he
spread the floor or do you think there're those two
things are no correlation at all. Kobe is a great
shooter that Jasper can come in and just be Jasper,
Or does Jasper has to do because we only have
one simple size from last year? Does Jasper have to
come in and do what Kobe did last year in
order from Mark Pope to second year, Like, Okay, I've
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been here before, Let's keep this roll and let me
just plug Jasper into that Kobe position. Or can Jasper
just come in to be Jasper? Or do you think
he's gonna be asked to emulate Kobe?
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Well, I think he can come in and just be Jasper.
But I also think that Marf Hope is putting the
expectation out there when he uses words like superstar, most
dangerous score in high school basketball all of last season,
that Marc has put that label on him, and he
is saying Jasper has to be really good for them
to be good. So I think Mark is established that
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that's the expectation he has for Jasper. I hope he's right.
That's a lot to put on a building. Last I
had a chance to talk to Mark. He said he
wouldn't say that about somebody if he didn't think they
could handle it, And he said Jasper could handle it
just just fine. So I hope that he's right and
giving the experience like what he's getting now, hopefully it'll
be good for him. I know it wasn't an easy
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decision for him to give up about three weeks with
his new UK team to go do this, but that
he wanted to go do it. Hopefully his mom and
dad get their air trouble straightened out now actually get
there to day where they can watch him play. So
but overall, I think Jasper. I don't think pressure bothers
Jasper and never will.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Jack. I don't. I don't know if I absolutely agree
with Larry. I agree with Larry.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I won't Jasper toy be Jasper and I think Jasper,
and I think the coach you have to You can't
ask a player to beat somebody they're not And Kobe,
people don't shoot the way Kobe shoots forty percent from
three point range. You just don't. People don't wake up
and just do that. Although I thought we struggled at
times this year before Pope got here, the thing was
we knew that the guards we had two years ago
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could not shoot, so we just clogged the lane like
we You can run whatever offenses you want, you just
have to knock down outside shots. And I think Larry
Vault is down playing Jack Pilgrim. I think Larry Vaut
is down playing the need in Mark Pope's offense for
somebody to spread the floor so people can't just pack
the lane and we because at that point, whenever people's
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running through the lane, cutting or just running offense through
the lane, they're just gonna people just gonna be fore
arming them and just mucking it up in there. And
if you want to beat us and beat it from outside.
Looking at the roster, the way the roster is set up,
it looks like if you're gonna count on somebody based
off of what I've seen and what Mark Pope is
saying that, I think Jasper is that guy who you're
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gonna count on a knockdown outside shots. I don't know
if we have a ton of people who can knock
down all side shots, is what I'm saying. And Larry
Vaught seems to think that, huh, we'll just let Jasper.
I think Jasper's gonna be asked and required to knock
down outside shots just so Mark Pope can continue to
run his offenses.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I think the comparison is Jackson Robinson. I think that's
kind of the role that they recruited him to play
and to kind of take on, you know, where he
can do some on ball stuff, and create and you know,
if the situation calls for a while also being kind
of a you know, catch and shoot, in stride and
transition kind kind of player. I think, you know, they
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want him. You know, they recruited Jackson from BYU to
be the superstar off Year's team, and you know, I
don't think we should be expecting him to be a
twenty point per game score from day.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
One or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
But I think just that type of role where hey,
we're not gonna you know, shove you in a box
and say you're limited to you know, this this specific role.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
We can put you in a bunch of.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Different places to succeed, and we trust that you're going
to be the guy to help us get there. So yeah,
I think he could be Kobe in the sense of like, hey,
that's going to be a lot of shooting opportunities for him,
and we trust that he's going to make a lot
of those shots. But Jackson more so is like, hey,
we're not He's not just going to be a catch
and shoot guy. He can do you know, put it
on the floor, you know, score and transition, you know,
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long wingspan for for defense, things like that. I think
Sky Sky is a limit for our nephew Jasper in Lexington.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
And before we go to break and move on to
talking football, because if we do have some football stuff
coming up, and Larry Vach called me the task on
social media as if I don't know who Jim Diapolis is,
as if he did not teach me while I was
in college, and he did not officiate our spring games
and our spring practices. But I'm not gonna hold that
against Larry Vaud because Larry Vau don't know who I know,
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because Larry Vaught don't run in the circles I'm running
with Jack.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
But I did want to have asked you.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
You've mis understood. You've mis understood that I didn't. I
didn't know if you knew that I trained under Jim Theopolis.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Ah ah okay, So I will I will give you that.
I will give you that.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
But where are Jack Pilgrim Before we get to that,
Where where are we at UK basketball? Where's it that
uh the program at now? And and does not that
I want to continue to harp on with Jasper as
an individual, but he's not involved with the team right now.
But what is what's going on with the team right now?
Speaker 3 (08:46):
In this summer.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
We're two weeks through where they knocked out two weeks
of summer workouts out of eight. You know, now is
the time for them to you know, learn each other
and get the team chemistry and like, hey, what does
this guy do well? What you know, what positions is
he best at, you know, succeeding? Where can we make
him uncomfortable so he'll be you know, comfortable when the
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season starts. All of those kind of questions are being answered.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Right now. We're getting some some.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Real five on five pickup you know games, and we're
starting to get some of those whispers of guys that
are you know, maybe emerging and separating themselves. I've heard
really good things about kind of the main core UH
trio of of incoming transfers, Jalen Lowe, Modia Bate, and
Denzel l Aberte, And I think there's kind of just
a you know, hey, we invested a lot of money
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in these guys to bring them in the portal. Let's
hope that the you know, juice is worth the squeeze there,
and you know, the investment is going to be worthwhile.
And I think the the reviews have been, you know,
pretty pretty positive. Thus far. I think Modia Bate is
a you know, just kind of a strong, grown man's strength,
you know, you know, positional versatility and you know, you know,
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high level defense, the defensive talent and kind of just
plug and play, do it all kind of kind of player.
I think there's a lot, you know, kind of riding
on him to just be the glue guy on this team,
and I think he's done that thus far. And Jalen Lowe,
you know, so many questions about his efficiency and some
of the things you know, struggled and the numbers weren't
very pretty last season at pitt Ken being in a
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better system kind of working his advantage with better talent
around him and a better system and style of play
that's more player friendly, and I think that that's been
the case up to this point. So and I've also
heard good things about Braden Hawthorne. I think that's kind
of been a surprise to me that you know, he
stepped in and has done some interesting stuff. You know,
I'm not expecting him to be a you know, high
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level rotation guy year one, but I think the tools
are definitely there, and there's a lot of excitement internally
about what he can be down the road.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Did I hear you say number nine?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
What all that excitement, all that all that excitement you
did you say number nine in there?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I didn't not say it.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
I think that's definitely something that I think now is
the time this Austin. You know, you you heard good
things last last offseason, but there's kind of that like
ceiling of Hey, it's a really good team, They're going
to win a ton of games, but like, you know, well,
we'll feel really good about you know, an Elite eight
like where we kind of feel like we're you know,
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definitely a second weekend team. We really want to get
to the Elite eight and if things the ball bounces
our way, you know, we could see in the make
a final four. But that wasn't the expectation this time
last offseason. I think with a group that they've built,
and especially you know, when Jayden Quaintons gets you know,
back on track, when he gets at full strength, Jasper
gets in so they get to see how he works
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with the rest of that group. I think that they
are definitely viewing this team internally as a as a
championship contender.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
That is Jack Pilgrim in this past weekend twenty twenty
five Kentucky Professional Football Hall of Fame class was in Dutch.
That we will talk about that when we come back.
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This is the home of the Wildcats. Six thirty WLAP.
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banking and financial needs. And as we were talking before
we went to break, the twenty twenty five Kentucky Professional
Football Hall of Fame class was announced. Michael Bush, Jim Diopolis,
Jim Grew, Dason, Danny Trevathan and what you areski Larry
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Vaught you brought up earlier that and so Jim, was
he a professor at some point or did he just
teach an officiating class? When I was there, he was.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
A over in the physical education over the Seaton Center.
I don't know if you if you turned him a
professor or coordinator or what exactly. I know I didn't
have him for an officiating class I had. By classes,
I had a guy with the name of Scooter Johnson.
If you remember him, I do not. The gym was
always the supervisor that assigned us at the games, that
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kind of made sure we got paid and took care
of us. And I always remember the best advice that
he gave me in those intermural games was, Hey, you're
going to get paid no matter what. So somebody gives
you trouble, just throw him out of the game and
stop the game. You still get your paycheck, he said,
Want you to do that a time or two. Reputation
get to established. Nobody messes with it because they know
if they do, they don't get to play. And sure enough,
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that may buy you officiating days pretty easy under Jim.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
And I see, I that's that is great advice, but
I can't. When I met him, he we were he
was officiating our spring practice, not a game like when
you do seven on seven, and he just was officiating
different aspects of our practice. And he was always really informative.
He would give you advice. He's one of the nicest
guys I ever met. So when I met him, so
when I had a class with him, he was really
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still really nice, so I really can't see him having
rigid bones in his body or you know. The ended
to be a tough nosed guy. The reason I liked him,
although I know Big Blue Nations are fan based, doesn't
really like referees in general, but when I was like,
I never really found a reason like a referee. But
he was at practice every day, every drill, and he would,
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you know, be really nice next time, don't use your
hands or make sure you do this, and I was
just like, so I really looked up to him, and
I really appreciate the things he've done. So Jim, if
you're out there listening, I appreciate everything you've done for me.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
But go ahead, Larry, yeah, say he was a great guy.
Couldn't have found a better person to be around, and
went on, it was just terrific at what he did
in the NFL. And I think he's still around like
it and now he is.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
Tom Leach Hadham on this past week on his show
and if you want to learn something about football, and
he's very likable too, very very likable, just hang around
Jim Deopolis. So congrats to him. So you had Tom
Leach had him on? How long he had him on.
I think it was Wednesday morning.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
I'm going to go check that.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
Yeah, Speaker dot com, w l A p or Tom
Leashky dot com is where you can check that out
at Jack Pilgrim.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Have you ever met Jim Dappolis Michael Bush. I don't know.
Maybe you met Michael Bush.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Just because he's from Louisville, so that might be more
of your speed because you I think you may have
been growing up a Louisville kid out of Eastern High School.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
No, but I saw him run for seventy eight thousand
yards of Kentucky every year, so I saw plenty, plenty
of him. But yeah, Danny Trevathan one of my favorite
favorite Kentucky football players of all time. Just a very
cool honor for all of those guys. But yeah, unfortunately
I still have nightmares to this day about Michael Bush
and what he did did dark casts.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
And speaking of like his name comes up, I don't.
I don't think so much of Wesley Willier because he
was a household name here, he was loved, beloved here.
Uh is Danny Travathan in that in that thing you
in that in that arena you were talking about? We're
talking about nas Mohammed and uh, I can't remember the
center from Toronto that we were talking about before. Uh,
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Jamal mcglure. Is Danny Trevathan in that were you like,
he had a long career, he was solid. Nobody really
ever talks about him a whole lot, kind of like
Corey Peterson, Cory Peterson.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Yeah, I think Danny Trevathan, man, he carved out a
heck of an NFL career and you know kind of
like the Jacob Tammy's and those those guys where they
just found a you know, found a trusted you know
program and and and culture and you know kind of
established themselves quickly as a as a you know, a
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staple of those locker rooms, and they just could you know,
couldn't bear to part with them.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
You know, they were so valuable, you.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Know, whether they were racking up you know, one hundred
tackles in a season or a dozen, but they were
just so consistently productive and you know staples of that
that you know, as a leader and those things that Yeah,
Dan Sravathan belongs in any type of you know, big
time you know Kentucky Football Pro conversation.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Larry Vaud Did you have any idea just watching Danny's
vaithan at Kentucky that this would be his endpoint, or
as Jack said, that he would have that much longevity
in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
No, I would say you not for Hamburg Jacob Tammy either.
But I'll also never forget the time when Chuck Smith,
who was a linebackers coach Kentucky at the time, Kyle
and told me he just recruited a superstar out of Florida,
and I thought, wow, he looked up the kid's name.
Think you weighed one hundred and seventy pounds like that?
And I thought, my god. I knew Chuck was a
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good coach, but I don't know what he's talking about.
But the way that Danny could run when they got
her to Kentucky and put some weight on him, I
didn't like you say, yeah, he was just magnificent, and he.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Came behind so many people who came. I can't remember
who was between him and Wesley Woodyard. Wesley Woodyard came,
then there's another backer before him and the or it
may have been somebody before Wesley, but I remember talking
to Wesley Woodyard, who's.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
That that been?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
When Braxton Kelly was there, Braxton was alongside Wesley.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
What about Avery Williams.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Now Avery Williamson is the guy I'm thinking about it. Yeah, yeah,
So anyway, and all those guys were, you know, solid
SEC players, but I don't think there were SEC like
household names. But then when he came to the NFL
time they those guys had played for years. I think
they the shortest tenure was probably seven eight years. Maybe Avery,
Avery might have been ten. They may have all been
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ten years, which is reridiculous, but that's it's what you expecting.
Larry Vaugh said, this is Football State. We produced football teams.
If you would like to join the show eight five
to nine to eight zero two to eight seven eight
five nine to eight zero cast.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Thanks Jack Pilgrim for joining us.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Follow Jack Pilgrim on Twitter, X whatever you call this
social media, Jack Pilgrim KSR.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
We will be back after this.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
You're listening to stock Yards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk
on news radios A thirty WLAP.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
This is the home of the Wildcats, six thirty WLAP.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. Come Anthony
White along with Larry Vault. This hour of Sunday Morning
Sports Talk is brought to you by Country Boy Brewing.
Congratulations to everyone who's in the Kentucky Professional Football Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
That was inducted Friday Friday. Because I was.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Invited, but I never turned in my things, so I
didn't remember what it was and I looked on online
it was, oh, that was this weekend, so I missed
the deadline.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
Is that open to the public to buy tickets?
Speaker 3 (20:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I would think not. I would think not. I would
think it's invitation only, Larry, Why would you know any differently.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
I think it is open to the public if you'd
like to buy a ticket.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
Yes, So I think it is too because I thought
about going and I heard something like tickets were already
sold out, so I didn't even try. But it's something
I would like to go to. But would it be
something you just buy tickets to or do you buy
a table? That's where That's where I'm kind of because
I know some of the names and some of the
people I know that were invited. I'm not certain that
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you just rub elbows with Derrick Ramsey and some of
those guys like that are minded Dawson and like to
be in the building. To see.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
No.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Well, I mean typically when there are are those types
like celebrity events, I thought they were had they had
to be invitation because you are going to be sitting
at tables with I don't know, maybe I'm overthinking this thing.
I don't go to those type of things really too much.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
I think it'd be need to at least go to
one hall of fame just to see those legends being inducted.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Let me ask you this, do you think that Bo
and I will get invited when they finally put you
in the UK Athletics Hall of Fame where you belong? Antony? Why?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Larry Vaugh sadly enough and Bo is a month older
than me, I think, sadly enough, Larry Vaught, none of
us will probably be alive.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Don't say that all right?
Speaker 5 (21:32):
Say that, yeah, because my days are number. Don't even
joke about that. So my days are a lot more
number than you're off.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I'm not joking. Things are not going to get better, Larry.
What you do know, I'm not going to amass any
more yards, right, So I'm not going to be any
more marketable in twenty thirty than I was in twenty
twenty oh five. In two thousand and five.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
That's a fair point, but you deserve to be in
there for a while. I'll keep I'll keep preaching it
as long as they let me preach well.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I appreciate that as one of what as one of
only two players in UK's history to catch two hundred footballs,
I agree with you so.
Speaker 6 (22:08):
But and I'm on that platform too. You should be
in the UK Hall of Fame. Well, keep living, well, don't.
Let's make sure this doesn't happen too late, as you
just alluded to, because you and I were talking during
the break about Dave Parker passing away and Dave's going
to be inducted into Cooperstown in July, and when I
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was kind of reading things over the weekend about Dave Parker,
was like, it's too late. Yeah, just and we kind
of learned it about Pete Rose two back in October
and we had that discussion. It's just I hate when
these things are too late and somebody dies, somebody passes away.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Dave Parker. But Dave Parking, did he He didn't have controversy,
did he? I think I know.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
Larry helped me out. I think there was a little
bit of controversy when he was in Pittsburgh at some point.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Yeah, I don't remember exactly what, but he he had
some shoes I don't remember. But like I said, I
loved him when he was with the Reds. Oh yeah,
when he was with the Pirates.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Two times two time batting champions seventy seven, seventy eight,
Dave Perkit and you and and this was announced prior
to bow if you're his induction to the Hall of
Fame was announced prior to his passing because it was
just yesterday, so I'm assuming it would happen for But
Wikipedia stays on top of stuff. I remember when Joker
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Phillips got fired, it changed like whenever the news hit
and locally it had him as former coach like within
the next twenty thirty minutes. So Wikipedia don't mess around.
Speaker 6 (23:44):
Both people don't mess around. Get those Wiki entries in there.
But you know what, Dave Parker, growing up as a
Reds fan, they didn't get any bigger than Dave Parker
with the Reds. Dude was like sixty five, two hundred
and thirty five pounds and he could smashed the ball.
That's a big old dude, I want huge.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
And you've met him.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
Before I don't think I have. And I grew up
going to plenty of Reds games, just living twenty miles
south of Cincinnati, and I don't think I ever met
Dave Parker. I know I have a ton of his
cards in my collection, but I can't think of a
time where we came across each other.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
I would like the Reds games. I would like to
know if Mark Berger's have ever met him?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
The Kobra? Why do they call him the Kobra? Larry
Vay why they called him the Cobra?
Speaker 5 (24:32):
It was cool and strike.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Nik clever? That is that is.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Larry Voss speaking of past and other people that we
haven't heard from in a while, and just some legends.
Uh what is actually before we get we don't have
Darius Miller on a little bit later, but uh, what
did I know you've talked to him? What has Darius
Miller been up to nowadays? Is he back in Lexington?
And what is a.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
Yeah, of course he finished his playing career in twenty
twenty one, that's what the really he's under which so
he played with Shay in the in the NBA. So
that was the last year he played in the NBA
was two thousand and twenty one, and he's been around
Lexing now for a couple of years and it's just
about are partnered. I don't know exactly whether he's the owner,
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the general manager or what of what used to be
the basketball facility or is the basketball facility out there
by the mall, but it's going to be named, I
think renamed now Alumni Hall, and Darius will be on
here to kind of tell us about some of the
projects that he has playing, what he hopes to do
out there and all going forward. But he's got a
couple of young children. I think they both are athletes,
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so he tell us about that a little bit too.
I think he used to enjoy watching them.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Are you saying he just stopped in twenty twenty one.
I thought he was done way before that, or a
couple of years before that.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Now, if you remember when when he came out of
the UK, played with the New Orleans franchise for a
couple of years, then he went overseas for a couple
of years, and he came back to the Pelicans from
I think it was twenty seventeen twenty twenty, and then
he played his last year with the Oklahoma cities under.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
And he's talking about somebody, and that is somebody who
carved himself out of a great currier because I didn't know
he came back to the States and played in the
NBA some more after going overseas a lot that doesn't
happen very often. But I think he was one of
maybe the most underrated one was one of the most
underrated UK basketball players because he was fundamentally sound. He
can do everything. You can plug him and play them
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at several different positions, maybe anything other than center. You
can probably plug him in and play it. But like
I said, that's just a name. You really don't hear
a whole lot. But then I think he gets his
just do when you say something like he has. Last
year in the NBA was twenty twenty one, and I
had no idea he played that long. But that was
one person I always that's always been in the back
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of my mind. But I'm like, man, that guy was solid, consistent,
and you know, he's never really in a whole lot
of conversations, but the guy could really play ball.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Yeah, stop and think about this, Anthony. He's the only
player in Kentucky to be named mister Basketball. Winn State
championship and then win a national championship. Also, he was
also the player if you remember in twenty twelve Kentucky
won the national championship, he was the one that gave
President of Barack Obama the frame jersey or the jersey
when Kentucky got there. So he actually, you know, interacted
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with the president. Not many of us can ever say
he did anything like like that. So and he also
still I think this is right, Bo still holds a
record for the most games played at the University of
Kentucky with one hundred and fifty one. One hundred and
fifty two broke Wayne Turner's record on that. So just
a remarkable guy. And I think of some of the
players he played with just Kentucky. He was there with
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Jody Baks, He was there with John wall He was
there with Debarcus Cousins. He was there with Patrick Patterson,
was there with Anthony Davis. He was there with Michael
kil Christ, he was there with Brandon Knight. Just think
of the guys he just played with in his four
years at Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
And I know I may not be a savvy, was
he there and I'm I want to think that did
he did he cross over Rajean? Was he not a
freshman when Rajion Rondou was here?
Speaker 5 (28:21):
No? No, Unfortunately Darius came in with Billy G.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Wow, wait a minute, Ragean Rondo was here when I
came back to school, though, and Billy G came in?
Speaker 3 (28:36):
What year? Do you know? Are you familiar?
Speaker 5 (28:40):
Rondo wasn't playing when you came Are you talking about
when you came to school the Rondo was playing with? Yeah,
Rondo played all his years for Tubby. For he's two
years for Tubby.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I thought maybe I came with the last year. So
did Rondo ever play with Romeo or Raley?
Speaker 7 (28:58):
No?
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Okay, you sure? I think that's what I think he
got that confused. I think he did play with him.
Remeal Brad Well.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
You look it up and see I'm pretty sure he
did not, Because.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
I so who did in the back court? Did you
know that there was some uh some tension in the
back court, not off off the court Sparks Sparks and
Rondo and Rondo. Yes, oh okay, that's probably what it was.
Then I thought that it was Remeal and Rondo who
did not get along.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
No, he played two years at Kentucky. Uh, I think
he played in two thousand and he's third. He came
as a freshman two thousand and four, then left after
a sophomore after the two thousand and five two thousand
and sixth season. Then I think for Mail and Joe Crawford.
Don't think those guys came in the next season. I believe.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Okay, see, you probably know better than I do. Don't
get him an old Larry. That's the first thing that goes.
Speaker 6 (29:59):
One question about Darius Miller, sir, go ahead. Was he
the glue guy to keep that twenty twelve team together?
And if not, do they not win the national championship?
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Absolutely? That was the point I made originally. Okay, you
plugged him anywhere, we did everything. Yeah, so no matter
what player needed a break or injurying, no matter what
player needed a break, you can plug him in at
almost every position and not lose a beat because he
was consistent and solid at every all four positions on
the floor.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
He was at TBT last year for a few of
the games, and one you could tell he was having
a blast. But people loved seeing Darius Miller at Reperena
for the TBT game. So I'm glad he's back, and
I'm glad he's kind of taking a role in all
of this.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
If you're a Kentucky fan, he's a guy you should
get behind. I mean, State's owned. He's one of the
guys that if you can't get behind anything Kentucky, it
is Darius.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Go ahead, Larry go.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
One of the best smiles of any player that ever
played at Kentucky. But you don't know why he's really
one of my all all all time favorite guys.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
M Because he played in March Well, I mean because
he played in Marshall County hoopest.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
No, it is better than that, because when Kentucky won
the twenty twelve national championship. That's why the place where
I used to work full time, we did a book
on Kentucky's national championship and they turned it over and
got it out within about a week and a half.
And when they did, we had two book signings on
a Saturday morning, one and damp On one in Nicholasvield
and guess who came to both of them and helped
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us promote it and stayed there for it.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
So he did.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
He couldn't call it from being debts.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
He couldn't call the front office and tell him whenever
they made decisions about your future. He couldn't call them
and change the course of any of that.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
That guy was taking phone calls from anybody. It wouldn't
matter who you were. He wouldn't do any phone calls.
His decision was firm. It wasn't it coming there with
any reasons to Nope, it was done.
Speaker 6 (32:02):
That's a great book about the twenty twelve team. And
I'll tell you this, Larry, maybe you remember, but when
it came out, I went over to justph Beth at
Lexington Green and I was looking at that front table
there with all the UK bucks, and I hear this
voice saying it's a pretty good book right there, and
I turned around. It was Larry Vault, and he suckered
me into buying it immediately.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
You were you were back. So it's a great book.
Great book.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Let's hurry up really quickly and get over to big
ass Fans hotline and see what Dennis has to say.
Good morning, Dennis, what do you got for us?
Speaker 7 (32:41):
Along? Keep beating this drum? I heard again KSR. Friday,
Matt Jones and talking about how that Kentucky will won't
be putting in the same amounts and the revenue sharing
if football is rest the SEC because they've got to
get more to back basketball. And again, if our athletics
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director does not give the same percentage as the rest
is the SEC teams does the football, that's a death sentence, sir,
our football program. How can we hold any coach accountable
if he has if he doesn't have the resources as
the rest of the SEC teams do. How can you
hold a coach accountable? And how can you ever hire
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another coach if you're not going to have a commitment
to football. And I you know, I grew up loving
to take a basketball as much as anybody, But I
cannot pull for a basketball program that's going to take
away from my football program. And I don't I don't
even know if I should renew my football tickets that
this is going to be true.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
That's a knee jerk reaction. Benefit.
Speaker 7 (33:48):
Why should I? Why should I? Why should I give
to a football program when the athletic director does not
want to give the same percentage and revenue sharing as
the rest is the SCC teams do because he wants
to get more to the basketball program. I have a
big big feat.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
I don't know if that's a fact. I'm gonna have
to check in with Larry Vall. I don't know if
that's the fact. Dennis and I would not jump ship
on the football program.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
I would.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
I mean, you can get on the edge if just
to be prepared to, but I wouldn't jump ship. And
I wouldn't take all that as fact.
Speaker 5 (34:20):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
And here's one other thing you want to ask yourself
to Dennis. I know it's changed over the past couple
of years, but there's really in the history of the SEC,
there's really no basketball programs that have the history we do,
so it wouldn't be the same.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Duke is not. You think Duke's football is going to
get it.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
They're they're gonna split there is the same as they're
gonna split with their football team. The basketball and football
team gonna split it equally as we do in SEC.
Speaker 7 (34:49):
I don't really understand what you're asking.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Kentucky basketball brand is bigger than our football brand, the
same way Duke's basketball brand is bigger than their football brand.
I'm not saying a larger saying they're doing. They're not
doing a larger percentage. You're just saying we're not splitting
equally like the other SEC football teams.
Speaker 7 (35:05):
Right, well, you've got I mean, if you're going to
compete in football football, let's get football is while it
brings in the revenues that great. That's the reason why
we have these big TV packages is because of football.
It's not because of basketball. Let's get real here. It's
because of football, is why we have the big, big
TV packages.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Now.
Speaker 7 (35:26):
Football brings into big revenue. If we're not going to
get the same percentage of revenue as as arrest of
the SEC teams do when they're going to show commitment
to win in football, how can you hold a coach
at the University of Entucky accountable for the performance on
the field when he's at when he's not given the
same the same revenue or whatever to win as rest
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of the SEC team football team sits? How can you
hold him accountable?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
No argument, Dennis, I appreciate the call. We have the
head to a break. I hate to cut you off.
I'm not doing have a argument what you're saying. I
do not argue what you're saying. Larry and I talk
about it when we come back from the break a
little bit, because we won't have a whole lot of time.
But I do hear what you're saying, Dennis. I hear
you loud and clear. You're listen. Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning
Sports Talk on News Radio six thirty WLAP.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
This is the home of the Wildcats, six thirty w
l a P.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk on Anthony
White along with Larry Vaught talking to Kentucky Athletics revenue
sharing Larry Vaught And it's a lot of hear Satan
And like I said, Dennis has been harping on this
for a couple of weeks now, and I can say
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I don't disagree with them. I also don't think Mark
Stoops or Mitch Barnhart. I know Mitch Barnhart is tight,
extremely tight, but I don't think but being tight does
not mean that you're that you're that you're not going
to delegate the money as it should be delegated. I
mean tired as if you don't have to spend money,
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He's not gonna spend it. But the money has to
be spent because it's allocated. So have you are you
hearing what Dennis is hearing? Because he's been pretty strong
about it, and I know KSR. It's sometimes based on facts,
sometimes not. And I don't know if it's even a
public it may just be public record.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
But well, yeah, I think it's going to happen, and
I think Dennis is right, is going to be. It's
going to make it difficult. It's going to make it
harder for Kentucky if you don't have the same budget
that somebody else has in football. It's also the perception
of it. If I'm recruiting, if Kentucky's recruiting Anthony White,
and say Tennessee is recruiting Anthony White, and the Tennessee
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coaches come and say it's White. You know that a
team at Kentucky, they don't even put as much money
into the programs what we do. That shows you who
cares the most, And that's going to be a perception
issue they'll have to deal with. But as you said,
Kentucky basketball is a different brand, and the Kentucky basketball
basketball or the revenue budget needs to be what they
can compa against with some teams like Duke and Kansas
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who aren't going to put as much money into football
because they don't have to. So it's a difficult I
don't know what the answer is, but there's a lot
of twist and turns coming with us. And I don't
know if you saw on Twitter or not that you
were right. Romel and Rondo did play one year together.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
And that was a year I was talking about because
I was an agaight or I was a cover study Hall.
But when we come back, we'll have Darius Miller. He
didn't play with him, but that's Kentucky's favorite son. Darius
Miller will be on with us at the top of
the hour. You're listening to Stockyards Bank Sunday morning sports
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