Sunday Morning Sports Talk - May 3, 2025 - Hour 1

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Larry
Valt sitting in the studio by myself today and the
normal Anthony White chair, and Anthony White is out visiting
and joining us by phone, so we've kind of reversed
rolls a little bit. And our other regular co host,
Jack Pilgrim, is off with the family, so it'll just

(00:20):
be Anthony and myself, but also be a lot of
Bo Robinson today because Bo Robinson was only one of
the WLAP Sunday Morning Sports Talk team. It was actually
at the Kentucky Derby yesterday, so we want to take
advantage of Bow's knowledge and insights and all about what
went on. Maybe here a couple of interviews that he
did there yesterday. But Anthony, hope you had a good
Derby day. Well maybe it wasn't that good for Anthony.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Well I see him talking on the patio, but and
I was hearing him. So Anthony, if you can hear us,
I had you at one point in the break and
now I can't hear you. Did you change something?

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (00:56):
That Anthony, Anthony and Larry with technology is a difficult
thing to graspo. So we'll keep going and see if
we can get to get a hand today there with
us and all there so. But it was a good
derby though Bo.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
It was a fun, interesting, adventurous derby because journalism was
the overwhelming favorite. The big storyline of the whole week
was Bob Baffort's return after a three year suspension, so
a lot of the focus was on Bob Bafford. With
Citizen Bull. You had a couple of scratches with Grande
and rod Reguez, which Rodriguez was a Bob Bafford horse

(01:32):
factor in the rain and how are these horses going
to do in the slop? And it was kind of
a steady drizzle throughout the entire day. I was telling
you on the way up to the studios. My easiest
part of the day was actually, surprisingly getting off sixty four,
getting on the waters and over to Freedom Hall to
take the shuttle buses over to Churchill down again with

(01:56):
the kuna. Can you hear me? Okay, now we got
can you hear us now? Anthony, you start talking about Louisville.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
That ubsessed me. You started talking about being and I
asked Larry Vaught. When he asked me, I was saying,
I'm assuming he's in beautiful downtown Lexiting Kentucky and the
Clark's Main Street Market studios. But then you couldn't hear me.
Then you start talking about Louisville. Had to make sure
this thing was working.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
We got you ladder clear, So hang on before you
say anything else. You're on the air right now, because
I kind of thought you were talking to me off Mike,
trying to figure out that things are working for you.
So you're on the air now. I can hear you, Larry,
can hear you. I think we've got it figured out.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, But Bo, that is surprising. I would have thought
when you were talking about your drive to get to
Churchill Downs yesterday, I thought you were going to tell
me to sit on the water So for two hours.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
No, no, And I left a little bit later than
I planned on because I had an interview sit up
at some point, let's say eight o'clock yesterday morning, and
it was my only opportunity to get a guest we've
got coming up to pre record an interview for our
Derby coverage on eight forty Whas and Louisville. That really

(03:03):
took about five minutes. But by the time I called
that guest had him on the line in my studio,
did the interview for about five minutes, and then took
a couple of minutes to wrap up with him. At
that point, I'm at eight fifteen. I kind of want
to leave it, like seven thirty, but I didn't want
to miss that interview because it was really crucial to
our Derby coverage. And then I had another stop to make,

(03:25):
which you will hear later on in the show. I
had to make a stop outside of Georgetown to check
in on some old friends and then on the way
to Churchill Down. So by the time I got to
Churchill Downs it was eleven thirty.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Sounds like good planning, though, it sounded like and I
worked that well.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Somehow it did, and I'm surprised.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
So, Anthony, how did your Derby Day go?

Speaker 4 (03:49):
Derby Day was well, every time I get back to Ohio, man,
I feel my roots. Everything's going good. It was rainy.
It was extremely rainy, and I was telling them both
off airy well. I don't know, because Bo asked me
how it went. I said, no matter how it went,
as you and I discussed for the past couple of
years or the past I don't know how many years.

(04:10):
No matter how it went, the fact that you have
a birthday is good at all. So celebrated it up
there with family and hanging out with my friends and family.
It was great. But Bo did not realize. He said
how much work he had to do. And I said,
imagine your birthday being on May first, derby falling on

(04:30):
that same weekend and Sinko de Mayo on Sunday. Now
that wasn't this year, and I think that was two
or three years back. But that's the toughest thing about
celebrating my birthdays, Larry making sure I got enough energy
and enough oof and I still got ums, Larry still
got oom.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Okay, I don't have any doubt at all that you
still got plenty of Oh they're Anthony, So I'm glad
you enjoyed it. And Bo, there's no it wasn't a
huge surprise to me. The journalism the favorite did not
win the derby because there's no way you could have
ran a headline today that says journalism wins, and any

(05:08):
of us that have been in journalism for the past
ten or twelve years, no, journalism wins is not something
you say a whole lot right now, So you just
knew that wasn't gonna happen, but it was a terrific
race down to just sit and watch at home like
I did. So all in all, I think with the
rain like it was, the track like it was, and
still had I think that both the crowd was what
over one hundred and thirty thousand.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
I think the final total, and it could be the
fact that Churchill Downs includes everybody. I need to go
back and look at the number, but the number I
did see was one hundred and forty seven.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
One hundred and forty seven. Wow, Yeah, which is only
down about what maybe fifteen or twenty thousand from the
all time record of considering the.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
I think so last year was either one sixty or
one sixty five.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, So considering the weather, that's a pretty pretty fantastic turnout.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
But you could you could tell there was a lot
more elbow space walking through Churchill Downs, and you know,
you just got to be careful who you're bumping into,
who's got a drink in their hand, who's doing what.
But you could tell there is a little bit of
breathing room throughout the grand stand and out in the
paddock and everything, except there's no breathing room when you
get stuck in the paddock behind the horses.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
What makes sense now, Anthony, I haven't seen any pictures
of Bow with the Derby to see what his outfit
was like. Have I missed them? Have you seen him?

Speaker 4 (06:27):
I have not. He is lacking and he will tell
us throughout the show. He sounds like he was the
busiest man in the state. And until I got to
celebrate a birthday, and you have celebrated birthday single, Demile
and Derby in the same week, that is tough. So
I don't know how busy he could have been. And
I can pull it off and wake up at six
am and go work out. So I don't know what

(06:50):
Bow did, Larry Vas, I would like.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
To see the pictures.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
What I would like to know more is is there
ever going to be a Derby in my lifetime that
it does rain on Derby Day?

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Well, you would think so, but it seems like the
rain comes the first Saturday in May and all fully locked.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Well, consider at what point in the day does it
rain and how it affects your Derby experience. Yesterday was
the first time in the last three years that I've
been to the Kentucky Derby where it really was miserable
with the weather, and it was about fifty five sixty degrees.
It was overcast, it was nice cool. The temperature was okay,

(07:32):
I really didn't get cold, but off and on you
had a steady sprinkle over Churchill Downs. Now, fortunately when
I left Churchill Downs go back to Freedom Hall and
get my car, it didn't rain, but in the am
and it was a torrential downpour from Lexington all the
way to the waters and Expressway. At one point I

(07:53):
saw I shouldn't say who this was, but they were
going by me pretty quick. On sixty four I saw
him in the media room at Churchill Down, so I said,
I almost called you boys to tell you to slow down.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Now we're trying to guess who that was. I'll tell
you all there. Okay.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
However, I will say this, I am not decadent, I
am not depraved, and I love the Kentucky Derby.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Okay, Well, you and a lot of your friends were
there yesterday. I was driving back from seeing my grandchildren
down in Nashville and was able to listen to the
majority of the coverage on whas enjoyed the festivities there
listen to our former Sunday morning host Leland Conway for
part of the part of the time, and then actually

(08:41):
I got home in time to enjoy and watch the Derby.
So good weekend for me, no complaints at all.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Now, I was going to say Leland was a nice
surprise because Leland and I worked together at Georgetown College
and we also worked together for host Communications back in
the nineties. So I didn't know he was coming up
until I got to our broad cast position in the
grandstand and we looked at each other like, Hey, I
remember you from about twenty five years ago.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah, well, where does Lee to Lee that live now?

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Leland lives in Colorado. Yeah, and he's doing still within
the iHeart Family. He's doing a show I want to
think in San Diego that airs in San Diego. And
he's getting ready to move to Montana.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Wow, Okay at Alexander who moves to Montana.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Leland loves it out there. He loves it out West,
especially Montana. That was really cool to catch up with
him and our group at eighty four, whas they do
a phenomenal job every year with the Derby coverage. It's
fifteen sixteen hours of NonStop Derby coverage plus all week
on the backside. Gus Allen, who is our program director

(09:47):
here at WLAP, also program director at WHAS and kind
of overlooks both our Lexington operation and Louisville. He does
a phenomenal job of putting together the Derby coverage throughout
the week on WHS. So a great crew. Tony Cruz,
Tony Vannetti, Terry Miners was there, Jody Demmling, Jim Finn

(10:08):
back in the studios eight forty WHHS. He did a
great job really steering the ship for us. And you
have Paul Miles who does an outstanding job producing reports
about the jockeys, the owners, the trainers, the horses, everywhere
between the grand stand and the backstretch the days leading
up to the Derby. One hundred years of whs's coverage

(10:31):
of the Kentucky Derby, it was an honor and a
blessing just to be a small part of it.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Well, Anthony nat Bow.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
Bow, I'm taking a risk, hold on. I'm going to
take a risk really quick and that can could that
coverage be or could that coverage be caught on the
iHeart app yes, Okay, I didn't. I'm wasn't sure if
they were. I know, I know WLAP is on iHeart,
so I wasn't sure about the other. We don't give

(11:00):
the iHeart app and up people always ask where can
you listen to? To BO? You got to do a better
job of letting people know that they can go to
the iHeart app.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
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Talk on news radio six thirty w LAP and six
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Speaker 1 (11:20):
That sound good? That sounds real good. So that's what
we'll count on you to get done for us.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
BO.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
I'll work on it, okay, along with everything else.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
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Speaker 4 (11:40):
Well.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
I kind of thought maybe we'd have a big spread
in here for Clark since they sold the two hundred
million dollar lottery ticket, But I don't see anything yet.
So when we come back, we want to talk a
little bit about Jasper Johnson and some other things to
stay with us here on Sunday Morning Sports Talk. Welcome back.
This is Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk here on
news Radio six thirty wl A. P our callers and

(12:01):
our guests come to you on the big ace fans Hot.
I think we have the best, our most regular caller
already on the line with us this morning. So let's
go to John Short and see how John Short Sturby
weekend is going.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
He's a little find you're a gready Americans.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Well, thank you, John, and that Anthony's had a birthday
so he's even a greater American today.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yeah, And not a good game can take in baseball
when we love lost the.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Double lost the double head. That's not the way you
want to get ready for the SEC tournament, is it? No,
it isn't.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
And I also, well play one o'clk today.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
I's gonna say, got a game today one o'clock right, bo.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
I hope? So I think, yes, there is a game.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
One of them one o'clcker. Yes, And that we we'll
be missing saved by five vegans today.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Well they need to John, I hope you're right.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
And a football team plays Georgia. Tz I believe it
one o'halck, isn't it?

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yeah, the softball team is I didn't quite realize this, Anthony,
but the Kentucky softball team is not won a game
in the SEC tournament since twenty twenty one.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
Wow, we gotta get well, we gotta get Rachel back
on Sunday morning. Hey, that's where you get your BOOTHSTAF
for the season.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, we got to come on with us before the
season starts. Yeah, so hopefully that'll wins.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Hopefully will if he as well as agency network or
just the agency network.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
I think that's just an SEC network if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
Soy Doug would be George goes they're twelve seed? Were
thirteen seeds?

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Okay? Well, well, well we will hope that you are right, John.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
I know, and you think when we think they're a
softball team.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Making well, they've got enough wins, but I think they
probably need to add a couple more in the SEC
Tournament if they want to. So we'll see. They're they're
probably right on that bubble right now.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Yes, and the owner is King rousl gain to us
and one of my prob anybody else for the season.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
I don't know. Mark Prope said this week that he
was scouring the planet for players, so I think he
would like to add once more. But whether whether he
can do it or not, start looking, John, he's hearing you.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Oh good, I thank you for Division one and two
back or women's A many twenty scholarship players at twenty walkouts.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Well probably the coaches would agree with you because they
can never have enough players, so you know so well,
all right, thank you for calling John.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Welcome.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
All right, Bo? What about that?

Speaker 4 (14:33):
Larry?

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah, go ahead, Erry.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
I want to point some not really quickly, because Bo
is a huge baseball fan. A lot of time producing
for him. I don't know, and I never knew. He
may have always been a huge baseball fan, but I
know we talked last week about last week being the
second to last homestand our last homestand will be the
weekend coming up right bow against Oklahoma May ninth through eleven. Yes,

(14:57):
if you want to see that, if you want to
see our men's back cats, it will be this weekend
coming up. Anybody will be myself, You're free to do
whatever you want to do.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
It'll be Mother's Day weekend though.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
Yeah, that's true too, so I won't be in town again.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Yeah, okay, So all right, but Bo, you did several
pretty interesting interviews in conjunction with the Derby. Whyn't you
tell us about one of those and maybe go ahead
and play one for us?

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Okay, So let me set this up. My whole goal
going into the clause get some interviews with some of
the horse racing personalities. Now, that doesn't mean right out
of the gate, I'm gonna go after Bob Bafford. I
can't do that. Even though I was six feet away
from him yesterday and somewhere around the ninth race, and

(15:47):
I had a microphone in my hand, and I was like,
should I Should I do it? He's right there? No, No,
I just took it for what it was, because again,
he was the big personality surrounding the Kentucky Derby. So
I just took it all in and think, Okay, Bob
Effort's right in front of me, just be cool. Just
watch how he conducts himself around around the stalls and

(16:10):
around the paddock. That was kind of a cool experience.
But back to the interviews, I wanted to get some
really good content and maybe go no pun intended off
the track and get some of the horse racing personalities,
especially some of the journalists, and really do a deep
dive on the Kentucky Derby. So that was my whole

(16:31):
approach going into the Derby, going into first Saturday of May,
and I think I nailed it. I really did.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
So.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
I got some great interviews that we're going to play.
I wanted to do at least one jockey interview because
of the line that I wanted to wrap up the interview.
I was able to do that, even though it didn't
air on Whas. So I'm happy with my work. I
enjoyed doing this. I was able to get one of
the owners yesterday morning at eight o'clock, so we're going

(17:01):
to play that back too. So how about we start
with excuse me, I'm still trying to pull things together.
How about we start with the first interview that I
wanted to do and ursul ellis, who has been at
this for over seventy five years. He's a legendary thoroughbred
racing journalist. He's an owner. When he was an owner,

(17:22):
he was a trainer. He still does his radio show
Horsetails on Saturday mornings on one of our other stations
ninety seven point seven WTF and I've produced that for
a while for him. He is so good and he
has an amazing and racing plus. The unique thing is

(17:43):
he grew up with Man of War.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah, his dad was the farm manager at Dixiana and
where Man of War was at was not too far,
so Ursul would go down and visit with Man War
while he was growing up. And so I started off
that interview with him and just wanted to get his
memory growing up with Man of War. And I will
cue that up right now for us and we will

(18:09):
go into that. So enjoy Ursul Ellis remembering Men of
War and some of his favorite derby moments. A fixture
and horse racing not only as an owner and a trainer,
but as a journalist for over seventy years, is Ursul Ellis,
who hosts his weekly radio show out of Lexington. I
know you like to tell everybody that you are so

(18:30):
old that you remember when Aristides won the first Kentucky
Derby in eighteen seventy five. But you're looking good after
all these years.

Speaker 5 (18:40):
Well, the poolcat looks good. Yeah, I've seen some. I've
seen some Dervision and a few of them down through
the years. Remember a lot of them? Yeah, of course,
a bit. That's okay.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
What do you remember about Meno War?

Speaker 5 (18:55):
I first saw him. My dad took him to sea
when he was because he was a fool and name
of nineteen seventeen. My dad took me to see him
when I was about ten years old. My dad was
working for August Belmont when he was full and who
was the breeder of man of War, and he put
the first halt on him when he was a foal.

(19:17):
So I had a special interest in the horse because
of my relationship with my father. And then later on
after Man of War had been retired to far away
farm which was real close to a farmer where my
day had managed Dixiana, so I was it was just
a short bike ride from where I lived over to

(19:41):
see manor War and I was trying and see him.
And I knew mister Harbert and my dad he was
a groom for manor War. You know. My dad had
told me, he says, if you're going over there, boy,
and keep your mouth shut. And mister Harbard is mister

(20:03):
Harbard to you always, and maybe you learned something from
him because he's a great horseman. So anyway, he was,
in my opinion, the best, greatest horse that ever lived.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
When did you realize that you were in the presence
of greatness? Was that at a young age growing up
or was it years later when you kind of recount
those memories of Man of War? When did you realize that?

Speaker 5 (20:30):
Well, my dad told me, and he says, when I
was about ten, He says, take a look at this horseboy,
I don't like him. And he's right. And I've got
a lot of company, a lot of people that had
seen both Secretary, and I know one gentleman, A F. Hewitt,
his life, doing his lifespan, he got to see both horses,

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and he said that he had never seen anything like
Man of War and he had seen Secretary too.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Are you after all these years that man of War
always comes up in conversation or just the culture and
the popularity of Man of War is still with us today.

Speaker 5 (21:13):
Well, he was just people came from all over the
world to see that horse. You understand, they would travel
forever to come over here to see him. And they
saided they they estimated that over two million people had
come to visit his horse during his lifetime. And then

(21:34):
this is back, you know, in the in the twenties
and the thirties and up in the forties and anyway
that of course, there's a statue to him, added the
at the horse park here of Man of War. And
I first funeral ever went to was Man of War.

(21:58):
He died on November the first, in nineteen forty seven.
And there's stories that you would hear about, and we've
been passed on. You know, the first time a clocker
looked at this horse on the track when he walked

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down to the group, what's the name of the big
chestnut horse? He says, manor War? He said.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Who's he by? He says, by himself? Mostly it sounds
like me by myself. Mostly. You've been covering thoroughbred racing
for over seventy five years, I believe, working with various
publications as a rioter, advertising, hosting your own radio show,
and like the most memorable racing personalities that you've crossed

(22:49):
paths with over the years. Did I've talked to just anybody?
Who are the most memorable?

Speaker 5 (22:57):
Oh, let's see, Well, one of them right now of
course is uh is Arthur Hancock, who was just a
lesson to the Hall of Fames, you know, and cleven Farming,
the people over cleven Saith. I met his dead, but

(23:17):
I didn't really get to know him, you know, But
I got to know Seth. And there's been so many
great people in the horse business. My father spent his
life in the horse business for Cride Outland, you know.
I mean, uh, I've just I met Shoemaker, who's one
of the all time great jockeys. And and it's it's

(23:41):
hard for me to just single out somebody like if
you asked me about it, My know him mostly a
lot of them, those that survived the whole, a whole
passle of them. I'll tell you that one that anybody's
in the horse binness would know would be doctor Bob Copan.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
And I've known.

Speaker 5 (24:01):
Bobby for a long time and we were close friends
and everything. And not only that, he's the only guy
I know that's older than me.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
So well it is Kentucky Derby Day. Do you have
any picks for me? Or do you just want me
to throw a couple of bucks on the floor for you?

Speaker 5 (24:18):
Yeah, just just to throw twenty on the ground and
say I really haven't gone over them, you know, you know,
I mean, of course some of the old timers. I
can remember some of the races I remember first. I
remember the first Derby I ever went to was nineteen
forty seven and saw Jet Pilott who win it. Jet Pillot,

(24:40):
he he he, he was lucky to be there because
the year before he belonged to Elizabeth Arden Maintaine Farm
and she had a three horse entry in the Derby
nineteen forty six. Uh Lord Bossel knocked down in perfect

(25:04):
bearn and they ran fourth, fifth and ninth. But anyway
they had they had sent.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
As a too.

Speaker 5 (25:13):
He was a two year old, that pilot was said
he came to Louisville with him and while he were
down there was a fire at Arlington Park and she
lost most of her two year olds from that crop.
And he was a survivor. And he came back and
next year and won the Derby for her. And I
remember that race. It was he came down to the wire,

(25:35):
he lit all the way. Eric Garon was arm and
he was waving his whip under his nose and he
said what the horse was giving him everything he had
and he was dead tired, and it was funny on
the outside, and came It's faultless on the inside and
they finished heads apart and he hailed on to win it.
So that was an exciting derby, one of the best

(25:56):
I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Again, tell me about Tommy Lee.

Speaker 5 (25:59):
Tommy Lee, Well, first time I saw Tommy Lee was
out at he was the nineteen fifty nine winner, was
a keenlan and I went to see him before the
prop and he was at that time in the panic.
It's closed off. They don't let anybody in there and now,

(26:19):
but they let the crowd back in and they crowd around,
you know, we flock around the horses where the horses
walking under the trees. And I walked out. All I
could see was his head up above the crowd and
he was looking out and boy, I said, God, that's
a look of eagles. So I turned it right around,
went back and bet on him, an he won because

(26:40):
at the derby I wanted to see him, and I
went down with a friend of mine and before the race,
and I got to see him before the race too,
and I bet on him again, of course, and it
was a great race. He was a game game race.
He had a duel with and they were heading the

(27:04):
head for the last three days for a mile. I
mean there wasn't a breath between him and he won
by nose. And a Blood horse magazine, which was a
weekly magazine at the time, the next week. The cover
of it was a picture of him in the winter
circle with the roses over him. They didn't even say

(27:26):
who it was. It just says, I mean are for courage,
and it was you know, gave me chills just to
su to look at that.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Well, it is Kentucky Derby Day and the one question
I wanted to ask he was how would man war
stack up against this twenty twenty five Kentucky Derby field?
But I think I know your answer.

Speaker 5 (27:46):
You never saw a horse he couldn't beat, and they
wasn't as long with.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
His eyesight good enough for me. So Ursel, thank you
so much for spending some of your memories and on
behalf of horse racing fans throughout the state of Kentucky
the Night States internationally. Thank you for your contributions on
everything thoroughbred racing in your career.

Speaker 5 (28:06):
Well, thank you.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
One more thing before I leave. I do have a
gift for you to commemorate your first Derby in eighteen
seventy five, and Aristides drinking glass.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
Well, thank you, that's a handsome glass.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Oh I have ways, you have ways?

Speaker 5 (28:23):
Yeah, Oh that's very nice.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Well, thank you.

Speaker 5 (28:27):
As a hen, I'll cherish it.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Have a happy Kentucky Derby Day. Celebrating Kentucky Derby one
fifty one. I'mbo Robinson. This is the Home of the Wildcats.
Six thirty wlap Bo.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Quite a conversation there with herschel Ellis has been a
while since I've heard any references to Man of War
and Jet Blue. And the way you wrapped up with
that quote was pretty pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Ursyl is ninety two, ninety three years old. He's got
a birthday coming up in a couple of weeks and
still just sharp as attack and could remember all this
Derby history and he's still very very witty story from
last week just to let you know how great of
a sense of humor that. Ursul has I was producing

(29:09):
his show last weekend and he wanted me to read
some race results. So he hands the microphone over to me.
He's got a stack of papers, and he looked at
me and he said here, and I kind of paused
and looked at him again. I want you to read
the race results from this past week, and I said
to him, oh, I thought you were past the passing
the mic to me so I could hit another button

(29:31):
like I have for the last thirty years. And everybody
laughed in the room, and he started laughing. He said, well,
every horse farm has a wise ass

Speaker 1 (29:40):
And that's why we have Bo Robinson right,