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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talking Anthony White
along with Larry Vaught coming to you from Clark's Main
Street Market studios in downtown Lexington, Kentucky, and we are
now proud to be joined by Britney Harris, co founder
Rave Owned Sports and the reason most of the reasons.
She's here, director of Marketing and player personnel for La

(00:25):
Familia TBT, the Basketball Tournament UK former Players in Kentucky
Players Team. Good morning, Miss Harris.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Onny, Good morning. How are you guys?

Speaker 1 (00:39):
We are doing good. Larry's doing good. I want to
speak for him, but I do want it before we
get into it. Because last week we had a guest
on that had their own personal business and it it
related to my full time job, and we made a
connection and we networked outside of her. So Rave onned sports,
give a little give us a little background on that

(00:59):
and what you co found it. How did that go?

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:06):
So I started a sports technology company called Raven Sports,
and our main goal was to really help create a
unique experience for the players and the fans virtually. So
we created a sports app where fans who are members
of their collective can download it and they can jump

(01:26):
on there and have virtual experiences with current and former players.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
So it's just a way.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
For fans to be able to connect with each other
and for them to really be able to connect with
the players in any unique way.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
I'm going to have to look into that because I
am a former player. But we are here to talk
about a lot of familia and we talked about it
earlier with Jack Pilgrim and how far together is our
roster and where do you stand with getting John Wall
to play. I want to see John Wall play, but
he had a couple of injuries at the end of
his career.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, I can't speak about that yet.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
We are pretty close to having our roster filled out, Nope,
So we like to just kind of not announce everything
until we're ready to announce those things.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
But we have most of our roster filled out.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
We have a lot of really amazing players coming that
fans are really going to love and be excited to
see play again.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Obviously, you guys have seen.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
We have some returners that fans love that had a
great time being in the TVT last year. The Harrison
Twins and Billy colly Stein really spoke about how much
it meant to them to be able to come back
and play again for UK fans, and that really excited
all the other former players to want to play for
US this year. So you can expect over the next

(02:44):
this season that we're really going to have players that
fans are excited about. We're going to be able to
have We're going to have a lot of really great
events that they can come to and get to meet
and interact with these players, which I think is what's
really special about the basketball tournament.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Retally did the last year when the ruckus between Louisville
and Kentucky, that wasn't that wasn't stage. Was that was?
That was real? That was real?

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, emotion, That was real emotion. You know.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
I think if you listen to the player's talk after that,
you could tell that it was real for them. It
was definitely real for us, you know, as fans, it
was real for us, you know, as the management.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
It just kind of exploded. You know.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
I think that people that don't understand that rivalry think
that it takes time off.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
It doesn't. It's always still there bubbling under the surface.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
And you could see that it came out, you know,
when we got into Freedom Hall and it was you know,
a lot red and the lights went red and you know,
they were screaming and we could you know, our guys
could feel it, you could feel it inside there. It
was you know a different kind of feeling. The whole
building was shaking. And then after that, you know, when
we beat them, emotions were very high. I mean fans

(03:55):
were legitimately getting mad, throwing stuff, cossing it people.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
I mean, it was a wild.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
Britday. Can you give just a little preview maybe of
what kind of events there might be with players that
fans will have an opportunity to get out and meetium
It's similar to last year. If you're planning even more
things than you did or had last year for the
inaugural TBT here in Lexington.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, so that's something that I'm really excited about.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
We will have an autograph signing, so we're working on
getting that done, and we'll have one other event that
week as well that we're still working on. But the
week before the TPT tournament, we have several events that
we are putting on with a great company called Better
Lifestyle Events and also in partnership with the Lexington Sports

(04:46):
Center and Coke Consolidated so we're really thankful to have
their support. But we are going to be putting on
a free basketball camp that's going to be July twelfth.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
It's for boys and girls age six to twelve.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
It's going to be at the Sports Center from eight
thirty to twelve o'clock and you need to register on
the Better Lifestyle Events dot com website. But that's a
free event. Last year we had several of the guys
that came back. Willie was there, James Young was there.
It was just an amazing event and the players had

(05:22):
a great time really spending time with kids and giving
back to them in that way.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
So we're really excited about that.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
There's also going to be a Champion's Golf Scramble that
will be July thirteenth. You could register also on the
Better Lifestyle Events website. There's going to be limited spots.
It's four hundred dollars to enter a team. That was
really fun last year. Nate Cistina and Willie calling Stein
had a great time doing that last year. And then

(05:50):
we're also going to be having a service project, which
will be July eleventh, from one to three at the
Elwood Hotel in suites. We are going to be backpacks
to give away to several different charities that have food
items and several different items in there. And that's just
something that the community can come and participate in and
help us pack bags. And you can learn more about

(06:13):
that on the lot familiar website which is Losfamilia TVT
dot com or also Better Lifestyle Events dot com.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
And if I say, if I remember correctly, those guys
were also out and about in town a lot and
people just kind of casually bumped into them and they
were more than willing to take pictures, sign autographs or
anything like that when people just would see them out
of downtown Lexington, if my memory is correct on that Britney, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
It was.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
You know, I was so excited by how excited, you know,
all the fans were and how much access the players.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Gave, you know, to the fans.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
They really spent time in the city, just walked around
downtown which restaurant, shook everybody's hand, took every photo, signed
every single autograph. You know, when if you come to
the games, there was a line. You know, they stood
there until the game started, signing every single autograph. So
you know, bring your markers, bring your balls, bring your

(07:15):
t shirts. We're also going to have some posters that
you can buy. There is some awesome merchandise on the
Law Familia website that you're definitely going to want to get.
We're going to have we have individual shirts for all
the players. We have some different Law Familiar shirts, so
you know, come and get those signed.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
But you will be able to see these guys out
in the city.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
They you know, do not stay in their hotel rooms
if they're not at practice. They're out and about, so
there will be lots of opportunities for you guys to
meet them. And that's the biggest reason why they're coming here.
They're coming back here to play for you guys. They're
coming back here to meet you guys again. They're coming
back to really get that love from everybody again.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
So they will be out in the city.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
There'll be lots of opportunities for them to meet them,
and so they should be very excited and get tickets.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
It's going to be amazing.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
If you came to the games last year, they were insane,
they were so much fun. And I'm really excited to
be able to put on, you know a couple of
weeks of events that are all family friendly where you know,
parents can take their kids and have a good time,
and that's something that we really want to be able
to do.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
And my question was with the golf or the golf tournament,
is that a scramble where if you sign up a team,
does do you get that? Is there a celebrity player
with you or is it just a regular golf or
is it a scramble with your friends and no celebrity.
I was just trying to kind of get an understanding.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
So, and it's a golf scramble, but you know last
year several of the players had teams, so you know
you're going to be able to hang out with you know,
all the players that joined the golf scramble as well, right,
And so that's depending on what guys get here in time.
But you know a lot of guys made it a
priority to be here for those events because they.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Really loved them.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
So we're really excited to be able to put these
events on again so that fans can come and just
kind of hang out with them in these kind of
like fun casual ways.

Speaker 5 (09:05):
Hey, Brandy, this is Bo Robinson here. First I want
to thank you for last summer and all the efforts
put into this because it was the highlight of my
summer or one of the highlights just being there to
watch Kentucky basketball in some way, shape or form at
Rupp Arena and then making the trip over to Freedom
Hall and watching that Donnie Brook breakout and it was

(09:28):
a great college basketball atmosphere that night in Freedom. All
you made my summer last year, and I really do
appreciate that. But now that it's all said and done
in year one, were you surprised about how successful it
all turned out?

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah? I really was.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
You know, I knew it was going to be successful,
but you know, I was kind of talking about it.
I walked into I mean so many businesses just talking
about what it was, you.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Know, talking to and you know, all my friends trying
to explain what it was.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
But because it was new, you know, it definitely took
a lot of effort to you know, get the fans
to understand what we were you know, doing and bringing
to the table, and you know how cool this experience
was going to be. And so you know, after that
first game too, and when you know, the guys actually
got in the city and they were like, oh my gosh,
you know, Willie Colley Stein is here, the twins are here.

(10:18):
You know, James Young is back, and they got really
excited about that. So, you know, I love Kentucky grown
up here, you know, a huge basketball fan. You know,
this is the one thing that I do that makes
me cool to my kids. And so it's really just
an honor to get to do something, you know, for
my state and you know, for my city and my

(10:39):
team that I love so much, and get to be
a part of that and you know, give.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Back to the state in this way.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
And so I you know, I love get to be
on the sidelines and kind of be behind the scene
and do those things. And you know, so I really
appreciate you saying that it was really an awesome event.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
You know, people have been.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Just super excited about it. They hearing people talk about
it all year long. Some people bring it up all
year long, you know, on the radio, you know, on
social media. That's just that's been really an honor to
get to see like how much this really spread out
and you know how much it really meant to the fans,
and then hearing the players talk about what it meant
to them to get to bring them back and you know,

(11:17):
have them here in the city again, so you know,
they're they're rare and to go, you know, Louisville. Obviously
if we if they get to that game, they got
to get to that game, then we're going to play
them there. But you know, that's a shorter trip for
little fans to go home, and I'm sure they want
that after they live.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, I'd say bring it.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
You know, that environment was pretty amazing this year last year,
and so it's going to be even better this year.

Speaker 5 (11:42):
Brennan Anthony Larry. I can confirm that the Blues Brothers
wasted no time getting tickets a couple of weeks ago
when they went on sale, and they will be in
full force for the TBT at Memorial Colisee and then
hopefully at Freedom Hall too.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
Yes, I've had a listener text me wanting to know
will the rest of the roster be announced all at
one time or you kind of spread out the player
announcements for the rest of the roster And how many
players do you anticipate being on the roster, she would
like to know.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
So we'll have between you know, ten and eleven, so
we will probably we'll start releasing one to two players,
you know at a time until they're all released. We're
not you know, we don't really release them all at
one time, and we also like to work with the
guys you know, on their schedule where they're able to
do interviews and give some time back to the media.

(12:39):
A lot of our guys are still playing overseas right now,
so that's part of the reason too why we kind
of release them in the way that we do and
make sure that you know, when we release them that
they're you know, they're excited to do interviews and they
want to be able to talk to the public right away,
and some of them, just because of their time constraints,
it's not feasible right then. So we will release you know,
one to two players over the next several weeks in

(13:01):
leading up to that, and so you guys can be
looking out for those announcements coming up to soon. But
you're gonna be really really excited. I'm super It's hard
for me and I know the roster and I can't
just like scream it to everybody because I'm like, you.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
Guys are gonna be so excited.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
All these guys are coming back. It's gonna be awesome.
So it's gonna be awesome.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
I think the fun part about the TVT I'm sorry, Larry,
go ahead, I'm.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
Just gonna say real quickly, and if anybody wants to
see Britney during a game, just usually look down kind
of toward the end of the bench and that'll be
the woman going crazy anytime UK scores a big point
or anything like that. She doesn't had her emotions very
well during the game, so you'll be able to spot
her during the game. Just watch on TV and you'll
be able to figure out who Britney is.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Thanks for that, Larry, Yeah, it's I mean, obviously I
feel like that every time I watch UK, but it
obviously it's a different feeling for me, feeling so like
invested in that these particular teams, and I didn't realize
like how like in tested in how emotional it was
going to feel during those games, and when we won,

(14:03):
it was just over the top exciting and I'm I'm
an into it. You know, I've never got to do this,
so I've never got to stand down on the court
and reperena. I got to do a lot of things
last year that I had never gotten to do, so
that also was really you know, exciting to get to
go down there and you know, do those things and
stand on the court, and so it was awesome.

Speaker 5 (14:23):
Well you were saying that I did, and I'm sorry
to keep interrupting because I'm such a fan of this event.
But Brittany, how cool is it that you get to
see the players and as well as the fans, you
get to see the players in a different light and
different environment other than playing Kentucky basketball when they were
here playing for John Caliperry. You get a different side

(14:44):
of these players, and you really get to see their
personalities come out.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, yeah, you do.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
You know, I spent a lot of time during those
weeks obviously planning all the events and then leading up
to them, you know, spend a lot of time just
working with them to you know, do all these interviews.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
I get to know them, and they were so just
so kind.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
In my family too, My kids were just so excited
to get to have all these experiences and they were
so nice to them. Getting to see like the fans
reaction to them, getting to like talk to them afterwards
and see how much it meant to them. Those are
really just amazing. Just I mean, you could see like
after that first practice that they had, and after that
first game, they were so locked in. They were just

(15:27):
so excited to be a part of this, and that
just excitement just grew. And you know, really getting to
have you know, my family and my friends, you know,
experience this and get to see, you know, something that
I did and be a part of, was just amazing.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
It really means a lot to me.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Hey, Brittany, I got one question, and I know we
got to pay bills. You are will to wear these shows,
and these things don't run theirselves. We got to pay
some billins. But I did want to ask you about
the coach. Can you stick with me for one one
more segment we go to break?

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I do.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Want to ask you about the coach. We'll talk about
that when we come back. You are listening to Stockyards
Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk on news radio six thirty WLP.
This is the home of the Wildcats, six thirty w LAP.
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony
White along with Larry Vaught. We still privileged to be
joined by Brittany Harris of the La Familia TBT team. Brittany,

(16:22):
I did want to ask you our fans. You know
how we are about our coaches here and what is
the process because you've got done. You guys have done
a great job of bringing in great coaches to coach
the team. I'm not sure how you got the last
coach uprooted, but you brought back a classic when you
keep everybody's talking about Calipari's players, but O Sean Woods,
what was the process on getting the coaches? Is an

(16:44):
interview process. You just select who you want.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
They just say yes, well, well, you know last year,
obviously we were blessed to have Tyler. He did a
great job, you know, really fantastic run with him.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Just you know, I think that.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
Most of the coaches and stuff who have been kind
of around have heard, you know, of the tv T.
There are lots of other teams in it before we were,
so you know, there are lots of other people who
had kind of known about this before. Several other former
players had tried to get a Kentucky team together and
just hadn't been able to get it pulled together. So
there were kind of some rumblings about this out there,

(17:21):
which definitely helped us. But you know, Sean Woods helped
coach last year as an assistant and he did a
really amazing job. He you know, really was excited about
the prospect of you know, coming to lead the team
himself this year. So you know, I wasn't a part
of that conversation, you know, that initial conversation, but you

(17:43):
know I heard it was very easy, like, hey, you
know what about the tv T.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
This year, Like, yeah, that would be amazing.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
You know, this is really I think after this first year,
these conversations are really more like, you know, what's my
schedule like, and do I have the ability to do it?
More of a uh, I don't know if I want
to do what kind of thing? So, you know, the
ability to be able to come back and bring all
these players together that didn't necessarily play together at all,

(18:12):
and you know, help continue this legacy and you know,
work together to put on something really special for the
fans again and ultimately you know, the chance at winning
a million dollars. I mean that's really I mean it's
a win, win win. I mean, I don't know how
they say no to that. So it is a little
bit more about you know, it is less hard for it.

(18:34):
It's not hard for us to get a coach, you know,
it's really about, you know, their time. So we reach
out to you know, several different people and see what
their schedules are and you know kind of go from there.
But you know, we haven't really had anybody say no now,
just it's really about, you know, do I have the
time to commit to doing this. You know it's going
to be several weeks and we plan on continuing to

(18:55):
win on until August, so you know they have to
be available during that time. So it's just really about
whether or not they have the commitment to do the
time to do it.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
And lastly, is that something that you guys looking would
you guys prefer to have someone who with some continuity
every year or do you want to give every someone
a new opportunity every year? Would you like to have
a new coach every year?

Speaker 3 (19:16):
You know that's really up to twenty and Sam who
you know, they spend more time kind of you know,
working on the coach and thinking about that. So you know,
we've had two different coaches. You know, we'll have to see,
you know, what that next.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Year would hold.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
But you know, I think there there's a lot we're
going to have different players from different years, so you know,
I think it. I think it could work to do either,
you know, having somebody new every year, I don't think
hurts us, or having somebody you know that we've had,
you know, brought back and kind of knows the tpt
ropes every year, you know, doesn't hurt us either. So
you know, we'll kind of see what we do. There's

(19:51):
a lot of you know, new guys out there, former
players that you know are coming up wanting to coach,
so there could be some opportunities to see some new
guys that you haven't seen, you know, be coached.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Brittany, thank you for your time one more time. Where
can people go get those tickets because we need butts
in those seats, brittany Where can they get the tickets?

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yeah, we need butts in those seats. So you can
go to tvt hooops.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
Dot com, slash Lexington to be able to get the ticket,
and then make sure that you go to lasamiliatvt dot
com to find out about events to buy the team merchandise,
and then Better Lifestyle Events dot com to sign up
for all of the three events that we already have
up on that website with our partners over there. We're
so excited to be able to bring these events to

(20:37):
the city. And thank you, guys always so much for
being so kind to me.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
We appreciate you. Enjoy the rest of your day. We
appreciate you for joining us.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
We wip you guys so much.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
We will be back after this. You're listening to Stockyards
Banks Sunday one of Sports Talk on news radio six
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thirty WLAP. Welcome back Stockyards Banks Monday wanting sports talk.
I'm Anthony White along with Larry Vaught. Thanks to Britney
Harris for joining us us talk about the TBTL familiar team.

(21:12):
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Larry Vault was born. Larry Vaught, you know what else?
We were talking about football, and I want to get
back on that really quickly because I'm a bit concerned

(21:36):
about my football program. My football program, Larry Vaught and
you brought up some good points earlier. The only problem
I have is and you're a writer. So when you
start talking about anonymous sources coaches, where did that become
a thing? Like, why don't if you're going to say

(21:57):
something and you have done it for years and I
do it. I do it all the time. I put
my name on what I got to say, how does
it become anonymous comments? Anyways? Public comments? How how could
public comments be anonymous if it's going to be public
standing on it?

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Well, I was never in my newspaper career. We never
would quote anybody anonymously. That's kind of a thing that
has changed what the Athalon magazine does. Their basis is
if they ask a SEC coach to comment on the
record about Kentucky, Alabama or anybody else, are you going
to get, Oh, got great program that coach? He is

(22:37):
really good. You know they're going to be dynamite and
be hard to beat them. But if you want them
to be honest, you got to tell them you'll treat
them anonymously. And so it makes for good reading. Except
that also makes it easy for anybody to say anything
because there's no there's no accountability for them saying it. Now,
I think when you looked at what the coaches, one coach,

(23:00):
four coaches. Really't even know how many different coaches said it.
They're just for four different comments they listed. But the
things that they said about the University of Kentucky, you
really couldn't disagree with them. It just sometimes kind of
hurts to see them in print. But I think when
they were questioning the quarterback play, questioning stoops motivation, questioning

(23:23):
the UK's physicality, I think those were all things that,
after you watched Kentucky play last year, are still very
valid concerns. But I think when you read them, when
you think, if this is really what other SEC coaches
are saying, that's not what you want be thrown out
there about your program. And the one that said that
even it felt like that Vanderbilt in South Carolina had

(23:45):
moved ahead of Kentucky. Now that's really troublesome.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
I think it is. And I do think the one
thing for our fan base and for our program, the
part we talked about earlier, I do think we need
to somebody needs to speak up. Maybe it should be Vins,
because Vince is gonna be pretty optimistic and you know,
and sometimes overly optimistic.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
Huh yeah, and he's great that what he says, I mean,
he's honest as much as he can be, but he's
also never gonna throw any player under the bus and
he always but he tries to find the positive to share.
I think that's what you've kind of got to do
right now. I think at this point, when you say nothing,
it just leaves through speculation out there even more thinking well,

(24:30):
why this coaching stand there are usually in the off season,
they're usually way optimistic, maybe sometimes too optimistic is you
would say. But when they're not saying anything, they must
think they're terrible too. I mean, I think that's the
vibe that a lot of fans get. Maybe that's not fair,
but I think the more people I talk to, that's
the vibe that they have right now, that even the

(24:51):
coaches don't think they're gonna be very good.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
And the one thing I don't want to be overlooked.
And this why I kind of want to throw at
you because some of the comments on on sports Edge,
where your sports edge dot com where you post a
lot of material is and I don't know how you
take this, Larry, what you do realize In Lexton, Kentucky,

(25:13):
we had Georgia on the ropes absolutely on the Ropes.
All we needed was a stud somebody. We just needed
somebody to stand up and like, look, I'm gonna get
one point three points, six points, seven points. But we
lost by one point two potential playoff team Larry Vault.
We also beat Lane Kiffen and his boys down there

(25:38):
in Oxford. Now, mind you, this is the same team
that people are saying is the worst team in the SEC.
And I do think we will go in the wrong direction.
Maybe there was a cancer in the locker room, maybe
maybe something occurred throughout the season, maybe they lost hope,
maybe something happened. But for everybody, and at four and

(25:59):
eight is not accept It is absolutely not acceptable this
day and age. It has been acceptable of it over
the years, but this day and age is not acceptable.
But the whole idea of this team laid down or
this team was not very good, They were not well coached.
Maybe they trended that way toward the end of the season.
But to take a top five team, top four or

(26:20):
three team to the Ropes, one of the best teams
defending for a multiple national championship team and beat an old,
high powered, old miss team, I just don't think you
can discount and forget those things. It's still four and eight.
But I just don't think you can discount and forget
those things. Larry vo, how do you what do you
say to that?

Speaker 4 (26:42):
Well, I agree that you also can't discount what happened
at the end of the season when they played Louisville
they just weren't even competitive with Louisville, or when they
couldn't be Vanderbilt. I think that's the thing that still
sticks sticks out the folks right now. And again, as
I said, you're going to have to show people in
August and September that things are going to be different,

(27:03):
because I think those are the memories that people have.
Those for most people outweighed what you remember about, well,
they played Georgia tough, but they didn't but they didn't win.
You instead that memory of how you weren't even competitive
with Louisville and you think there's the program just falling apart.
Was that just the end of the season and guys
are ready.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
To move on.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
That's why so many transferred and why maybe so many
were asked to transfer or whatever. And I think just
a huge turnover that you have on the roster also
makes it just hard for people to know what to
think because they went four and eight with the defense
that was supposed to be really good. Last year's supposed
to be really good, and it seems to have had
a lot of good, good players when you look at

(27:42):
the guys they got coming back on defense, of the
guys that are penciled in to start on defense, when
you just look on paper, those guys aren't as good
as what they had last year when you just look
at the paper and the stants and stuff. So that
worries me. If you went four and eight and you
think when you look at the talent you got on
defense that maybe it's not as good as what you

(28:03):
had last year and you only went four and eight,
I think that concerns a lot of people. So that's
why I just think if there was some talk, you
don't have to come out and say we're going twelve
and zero, but just occasionally kick out and say, with
this guy, you know we've got in the transfer portal,
and I know they talked about him in the spring some,
but I just don't think he can go three months
again without mentioning that we're really like this guy and

(28:26):
here's why we really like our chemistry and here's why.
I just think they need something like that, which Mark
Cobe has been great at doing that. I mean, he's
got everybody in Kentucky convince right now they can win
the national championship, no doubt about it next year, just
because of his upbeat personality and what he is saying
at all right now, and a lot of these guys
in the transfer portal he's bringing in, we don't really

(28:48):
know a lot about it. I mean, I didn't watch
Cam Williams play last year and now I'm writing about
he's going to be maybe a draft pick in twenty
twenty six. So I just think they need some kind
of ray of sunshine kind of throw out there a
little bit or let the time right so Joshkatis just
talk about the team and how it's different and why
it's different, and let those guys be your spokesman. But

(29:09):
they need somebody that can kind of help rejuvenate the
fan base. I think.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
That really ain't fair because Mark Pope is still kind
of lightweight, playing with playing with house money. Like he
he's still kind of playing with house money. One thing
about Mark Pope which is different, he shows that he's
he's going to get he's going to have a competitive
edge just because of his brain, because of its intellectual
property that he's going to make sure we're in every
game no matter what you give him, whatever roster's plugged
and play, He's gonna put these guys in a position

(29:38):
to be as successful as they can be. Are they
athletic or as good as basketball players that we've had
in the pass Probably not, But as a team and
carrying out his assignments and him, you know, drawing up plays,
manipulating situations, I think it's a lot different. The big
question I think a lot of people have and I
was looking trying to look at up that was Mark

(30:02):
Stoop's salary. The biggest question a lot of people has
is and I really don't want to have this conversation
on air, but we are gonna we are going to
have this conversational air. The is the desire for him
to maintain his respect because at a certain point he

(30:24):
was going down as the greatest coach in my book,
the greatest coach in the history of Kentucky football. If
it trends continue to trends the way it is, I
don't think you take him out of the conversation. But
it changes the conversation a little bit. He is his
desire to I think the big question from our fan
base and the people that are invested in this emotionally,

(30:47):
maybe not financially, but emotionally, is his desire to win
or retain his respect bigger than his desire to continue
to get his paycheck, Because apparently our program is one
of those programs who so financially frugal that they're not
gonna they're not gonna buy him out of that. And
then it was someone in the chat group on your

(31:09):
post said, uh, they thought it was time, you know,
time to get rid of them. I'm not saying that's
not the case, but I do think he deserves the
chance to retain his position.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
Well, I think financially it's going to be a really
hard time to make to buy out. And even if
you wanted to to buy out twenty or twenty five
mesion or something like that, at the same time, you
got to put all this money into paying athletes. So
every athletic budget is going to be strained. And I
don't know where you go out and nice people to
give you money to pay somebody not to coach, then

(31:48):
give you money to pay I mean, it's just gonna
there's only so much money I would think out there.
So personally, I would like to think Mark is just
as competitive. It wants to win just as much as always.
But also personally, I know sometimes as we get older,
some things kind of change and some things that would
have set us off and bothered us when we were

(32:10):
younger don't make us lay awake at night as much
as what they used to. And nobody but Mark can
really answer that kind of question. But I would still
think he's just as competitive as ever. But maybe instead
of working a sixteen our day, you only work a
twelve our day or something like that. I mean, I
don't know, but there's a lot of questions going into

(32:33):
this thing for next season, and you think the schedule,
I mean I hear all the time, well, the schedule
is going to be so much more difficult. They could
be better, and the schedule is always tough. I think
if you're in the Kentuck, I mean, I don't think
he can fear the schedule, do you, Antony, I don't
think he can already go into the seat and say
on the schedule is so tough, you know, would be
a miracle if we do this. I mean, I don't
think you can fear the schedule even look at it

(32:54):
that way, or maybe I'm wrong about that.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
No, you're absolutely right, because there's been a long time
where you couldn't count on Florida at all, and there
was a short window where we can count we can
mark Florida down as a win every year South Carolina,
and like I said, now it's just kind of flips on.
Vandy's back to stealing the game here and there, and
probably you know, a couple of years there's I think,
really there's nobody on the schedule that you can overlook.

(33:19):
But it's always been that way, but we for some reason,
we just had South Carolina and Florida's number for a
short period of time. So I'm with you, the only
other before we go to break the only other kind
of want to put the rest. And I just kind
of curious as to what your thoughts are that everybody's saying, well,

(33:40):
we overpaid them. I don't think he was overpaid at
the time he was paid. Maybe we had the money,
or maybe we were paying for the future, or are
you one of those and our fan base hindsight is
always twenty twenty when something goes wrong. I knew it.
Everybody's off. They were the first one. They knew it.
If we didn't pay March Stoots at that time, we

(34:00):
probably could have lost him. Do you think we paid
too much? Do you think it was ill time payment?
Do you think he relaxed after he got the payment
or But I do think if we didn't keep them
at that point in time, when we offered to pay
him that kind of money, we were trending or we
were in the right direction. I don't know if we
were trending at that point, we were in the right direction.

(34:22):
But people are saying, well, we overpaid him. Yeah, now
it looks like a whole lot, But if we continued
on the trajectory where we were going, I don't think
it was a bad move. Hindsight, it may or may
not be a bad move because we were stuck with
no leverage basically, But do you think at that point
in time it was okay move?

Speaker 4 (34:45):
At the times Contract was saying, I don't remember any
huge public outring right against it. I mean, I think
most people would have been more outraged if he'd left
to go somewhere else. But I think those are hard
things to know. I mean, I can remember back in
I know this old guy talked. But I remember, back
in nineteen seventy five, Anthony, I worried when I paid

(35:06):
seventeen thousand dollars for my house. I was I ever
going to pay for that? And how would that to
ever play out? Now that I'm still living in this
same house fifty one years later, and I see what
the price it could go for, I think that's just
nuts to me. Or I watch What's or I watch
what people today are paying for homes, and I think,
how could they ever pay for that? But property goes up,

(35:28):
and I all like that. I mean, you never know
about the future for sure. So I don't think I
would ever be one that would fought Mitch Barnhart for
doing what he thought was the right thing at the time.
And again I don't remember me standing out there saying, oh,
that's what a huge mistake to pay. Mark Stoop said,
letting go and find somebody else. I don't remember me
writing that then, So I think it's kind of unfair

(35:50):
four or five years later you sit here and say
I knew that was a mistake, because I don't think
anybody did. I think the majority of hell, that was
the right thing to do when he did it, and
as it turned out, the be the best. Maybe not,
but I mean it's not like they've until last year,
it's not like they've been awful. And if you think
of the history of Kentucky football and the football program
is still made money. But this year, with these ticket

(36:12):
sales being down and only one recruit being signed, those
two things just kind of trouble me. And that's something
that makes me worry a little bit about the future
or one recruit being committed.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Absolutely that is Larry Vaughdon. We will be back to
close this show out after this year. Listening to Stockyards
Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk on News Radio six thirty WLI.
This is the home of the Wildcats, six thirty WLAP.
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony
White along with Larry Vault and producer Bo Robinson here

(36:50):
to close out this edition of Sunday Winning Sports Talk.
I think Bo Robinson has been doing great job, as
he normally does on the tunes. There's a couple of
them to have me scratching my head it so I'm
I don't know if there's actually a theme today Bo Robinson,
But uh, well, I.

Speaker 5 (37:05):
Try to stay topical, and I think I've hit it
a couple of times. And I think I missed a
few times because I have been very busy in the
studio taking care of a few extra things.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
What was the father one? There was something about a father's.

Speaker 5 (37:19):
Oh that was American Soldier by Toby Keith and it
was for Memorial Day tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Yeah, see, I might have missed that that theme. I
didn't know that. Uh, Larry Vaught, what do you got
going on this week?

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Have you had?

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Do you cover track and field at this time of year?
Because because we haven't got the announcement what our baseball
team is going to do, I'm assuming our softball team
has finished, Larry Vaught.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
They get they get beat the Clempson final of the
Clipson Regional.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
That is true last week.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
The baseball team hopefully finds out tomorrow that they will be.
And I watched some school track, not as much as
what I used to when I was working daily at
a newspaper, So I watch some, but there's a plenty
of other things to keep me busy. Right now. I
got a lock. I go over Center College and do

(38:14):
I just enjoy watching athletes that are just competing for
the pure joy of competing over there, and their football
team's actually over in Scotland right now getting ready to
play an exhibition game. That's that's why I think it's
a great exhibition trip for you to go to Scotland
to play football game.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
They didn't they don't take media like how Mummy used
to do. Huh, couldn't you.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
I've tried to hent and plead, beg, It's never quite
gotten to the point that I've got the invite.

Speaker 5 (38:44):
Larry is the Great American Brass Band Festival next weekend
in Danville.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
It'll be coming. It starts Thursday night and goes through
Saturday night. That'll be what my main focus will be
next week is volunteering at the Brass Band Festival of
your Ways, but we're a little short on some of
the volunteers, so my for the first time one of
my main I'm going to be kind of stationary a

(39:09):
little bit on the Friday and Saturday. I'm going to
kind of be managing the Pepsi trailer and the drink
sales there. So if you're coming to the Great America
Brass Fan Fesstival, come down to Pepsi trailer by product
and say hello to me. Or if you're living here
and want to volunteer to help work, reach out to
me because I'm pretty sure I can find a spot

(39:30):
I can use you.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
If you are looking from the work, hit up my
man Larry Vaught. This show has come to a conclusion.
And with that being said, I like to thank Jack Pilgrim,
Thank Britney Harris, Thank my man nephew Bruh, Jasper Johnson,
Thank Larry Vaught as usual and Bo Robinson always keeps
us going, keeps us on there, keeps things flowing. Thank you,

(39:53):
Bo Robinson. I am Anthony White and this has been
Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk on New Radio six
thirty WLAP
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