Sunday Morning Sports Talk - November 3, 2024 - Hour 2

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Home of the Wildcats. Six thirty WLAP Welcome.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Back Stockyards Bank, Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony White,
along with the great Larry Vopp coming to you from
Clark's Main Street Market Studios and beautiful downtown Lexted in Kentucky.
DH DH of Country Boy Brewing. Several weeks ago, I
came into the show. Want to get me a water,

(00:28):
a beverage to keep my throat and my pallette moisturized
as we do the show. And I've seen some adult
beverages in there. There was like some four percent beverages,
eight percent beverages. What I didn't see was any country
boy beverages in there. DH thought I threw the hint.

(00:51):
I thought the hint was made pretty clear that if
we had some country boy in there. I'm sure some
of the crew would partake of those. Take those home
olebrate victories when we have them, such as the old
miss and I know both tends to walk or uber
if he's having a good time. That if he's in
the studio late at night and we win another volleyball

(01:12):
national championship, even though Texas is in the conference, he
could partake in some of those the celebration because they
put this some long nights, don't you?

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Don't you both?

Speaker 4 (01:20):
Now wait, wait, hang on for a second. Go back
to this ubering thing.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
We have to be responsible.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
Well, see the bandwagons broke down, so that's why I
would have to take an uber.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Well, we wouldn't want you driving to bend wagon. Oh,
I guess I could come pick you up.

Speaker 5 (01:36):
I'm going to take you up on that one night.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
No, volleyball is not a long night whatsoever. I actually
enjoyed doing volleyball. Now, Billy Rutledge had a long night
last night. Uh oh, because not only did he have
to do pre game, the game, and postgame. So he
may have got out of here at four o'clock. I
fully expected, you know, with the clock's changing, Billy would

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been laid out on.

Speaker 5 (02:00):
The floor here.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
That's where you probably wouldn't need to get Billy and Ober.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Well, it's not a problem with DH. Don't bring us
into that country boy over here. It's not even a negotiat.
I mean, it's not even a thought. So DH, you're
doing this a good You're either doing this a good
job or you're doing a bad job. One way or
other picked a choice DH Larry Vaught before you couldn't
hear me. I was talking about we had a conversation.

(02:26):
There's a conversation going on on our Twitter. If you'd
like to join our Twitter, the handle is at Sunday
Am Sports and we typically talk about some of those
topics online and usually in general, and you guys can
argue and photos amongst yourself. But it was talking about
the out of bounds play that Brock got pushed to
his backside, and I said that I thought it was

(02:50):
bush league. I thought it was a punk move. But
I could also see if someone wanted to support him
where he was protecting himself. But the law of inertia
doesn't allow a two hundred and some pound man in
motion to be thrown to his backside by a standing
object that is not tied down. The law of inertia

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really doesn't work that way. So either the bigger guy
could have caught Brock, or he could have moved out
of the way and let Brock stop on his own.
But him putting his arms out to make contact and
solid and disturbing contact.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
I agree with what everybody, or the UK.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Fans on Twitter we're saying about that thought it was
a punk move.

Speaker 6 (03:39):
Yeah, same here, because if a guy's chasing Brock and
Brock goes out of the bounds and a guy chasing
from Tennessee puts his hands out and knocks him down,
that's gonna be an automatic fifteen yards, right, That is true,
A penalty will be down, so the other way around.
I mean, I don't know why. I don't know how
that officials could have looked at that. And I don't
think Brock was faky. I mean, he wouldn't fly hopping

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when he went down. He went down hard. And how
you can let that because, like I say, all the
guys got to do is either put his arms out
to just kind of wrap wrap them around Brock to
slow him down, which I think you see not often,
but you see some or the more common thing. You
just kind of get the heck out of the way,
whether you're a photographer or a football a player or
a coach or whoever, and let the guy kind of

(04:21):
stop on his own there, or maybe reach out to
help slow him down, but you don't put your hands
out and knock him down like that. I mean, that
was just and I'm assuming that probably no other do
you think no other Kentucky players saw that, because I
would have thought when that happened. I mean, I think
back to when you were playing, if somebody had done
that to Tim Couch, I gotta think that you've got

(04:44):
some guys on your team that would not have responded
very well to that, and it would have been probably
all on that sideline.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah, I definitely think. I definitely think it would have
been an issue, and it was. It was just kind
of crazy. But I do think this day and age,
and I think kind of the team all my co
works because everybody who asks about the Kentucky football program,
they think that they're probably it appears that there's probably
a lack of leadership, And I'm I guess that would

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come from the top because I do know that how mommy,
not so much Bill Curry, but how Mommy would manufacture
fights or tension in the locker room just so you
know the guys can show some energy and kind of
show how the pecking order is. Because if you start
to fight the guys like the Marlon McCree is, the
Jeff Sneeger, Jason Watts, Uh, there are certain guys many

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they run to the front of the line they run
to the front of the group, they speaking for everybody,
anwar Stewart for that matter.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Uh, but we really don't see that much.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
And we talked to jo Quiz Jones on my podcast
a couple months back, and he said the same thing,
that coaches frowned upon somebody stepping to the front and
holding guys accountable and putting their fingers in people's face
and you know, won't to get physical. They they frowned
upon that. They want us to be buddy buddy and
accept it. But if somebody's not pulled their own weight,
or somebody's not pulling the way they should be pulling,

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then there needs to if the coach can't get them
to do it, in which I understand this day and age,
you can't do what you used to be able to
do back in the nineteen hundreds. If the coaches can't
do it, the players damn sure can do it. So
why deter the players from doing it? Because I'm the
one out here taking this whooping and I'm not saying
this is not a compliment, this is not toward my
this is not toward the offensive line. But if I'm

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a running back or a quarterback in my offensive line
ain't blocking. You probably need to choose your verbiage. But
the fact of me taking the beating because you're not
doing your job is a problem. The same way, if
I fumble the ball, my whole team, the defense offense,
everybody should be on my tail, hold on to the

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dog on the ball, and you probably won't do it
very often. But not allowing these guys to police each other,
it could be problemsome. But Larry Vaught, I did want
to go back to it, as I discussed in this
last segment that Alvin brought up. He brought up the
Tim Couch, Aaron air Raid and uh, I was gonna

(07:07):
say Charle Andre he Woodson there and he brought up
you know, Keenan Burton, Stevie Smith, Scott Mitchell. There's one
other one. I'm thinking Steve Scott Mitchell. Oh, the kid
that played in Cincinnati for a while. He he was
Antonio Brown's trainer for a minute. I don't know why

(07:30):
it is escaping me, but he had a I mean,
he had your man's from from Danville, so he had
some some guys and so he asked about the most
exciting offenses under stoops. I'm gonna say, I'm really gonna say,
Randall Cobb in that group was pretty exciting.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
And I guess the only other one I can really
think of, I think.

Speaker 6 (08:00):
Don't think Stoops had Randall Cobb. Randall's gone for Stops.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
That was that was this year before Stoops. Yeah, Randall
Cobb went two and ten.

Speaker 6 (08:14):
He was gone before Stoops got oh.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
He was going before. Okay, so well before really okay?

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, Well then I guess it goes to the Lynn
Bowden team with Lynn Bowden and those guys, any any
one of those three years or all three of those
three years, unless you can think of better, because you've
you've taken Randam Cobb without of man.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Out of my choices.

Speaker 7 (08:44):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (08:44):
That's that's a good question. I have to think about
that a little bit longer, of course, the and I
guess it kind of all depends on your definite definition
of how you define different things too. I mean the
two and eighteen teams and won ten games. I mean,
if you like watching Benny Steale pound that ball and

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cake over a game for you, don't like that that.
I don't know if it was exciting, but I thought
it was kind of fun to watch.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah, yeah, that is true. That is true, But I
don't he's an exciting one. I think exciting.

Speaker 6 (09:20):
Yeah, you're thinking more of the air raid exciting type stuff. Yeah,
I can see. I kind of think winning excites me.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
And that was gonna be my next question. That was
gonna be hold on, we got callers lined up. That
was going to be my next question. When you said
before that, you know the fans, you know when they
left when we played, you know, we scored forty some
points and they're happy, but we still lose and uh

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Madge and brow downing them over Twitter.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Beat me up. No, it's not a moral victory to me.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
But if we had a chance to win in Knoxville
in the game, you on the edge of you see wondering,
you know, are we gonna pull this out at the end.
I thought that's what the fandom is supposed to be,
But now our fans are changing to no, we just
won't outright victories. But you want it pretty as well.
If it's an ugly victory to me, I'll take an
ugly victory.

Speaker 6 (10:17):
Yeah, I'm kind of that age group to art wins,
I agree.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Let's get to the phone lines and see what Jamie
has to say, good morning, Jamie, thanks for holding.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Sorry if you keep your hold, what you got for us?

Speaker 8 (10:31):
Yeah, I was just My biggest thing is who evaluates
the transfer portal recruits. I know, Vince Marrow is great
as far as a high school recruiter, and you know,
we loved it. We paid big money to stay here
and everything, but when it comes to the transfer portal,
we haven't hit yet on a quarterback. I mean, Levis

(10:54):
one year, but other than that, it just seems like
that our offense. I was just watching actually the Ohio
State game right now on FS one, But I mean
you watch how they line up and how they execute
plays and you look at UK were scattered all over
the place. We don't even know what we're supposed to be.

(11:17):
And that goes back to coaching on that. But I
mean ESPN that the preseason said that Kentucky, Kentucky has
talent for the first time, Kentucky, Kentucky has talent. Man,
they got some big guys, they got they got this.
Are we not coaching them up? Or how does other

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teams that were the lesser talent says A Florida and
the rest of them.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Just dominate us Jamie. I want to Jamie, I want
to answer. I want to say this. I want to
say this for you. Hopefully this will give you, hopefully
some Uh, Devin Leary was one of the best quarterbacks
in the transfer portal. I'm not certain that Brock vandergriff
wasn't the number one quarterback in the train for a portal.
When you asked that question, now here where the rubber

(12:02):
may not be meeting the road is that we've had
different offensive coordinators every year. So when we're picking the
quarter do you want the top quarterback? And you brought
up Will Levis. Liam Cohen hand picked Will Levis. I
don't know what his ranking was coming out, but he
picked Will Levis because Will Levis fit what he wanted
to do. So I think you have a valid question,

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But I think the answer is found somewhere in We
were getting top quarterbacks in the portal, but the coordinators
that were supposed to utilize those those players were not
the ones who chose them because we've had different coordinators
for the past four years.

Speaker 8 (12:45):
Regardless, we're always going to be pitiful as long as
we change coordinators. He got other teams to change coordinators. Hell,
look at Indiana. They changed their whole team, right, he
can't keep making excuses for coaching, not coaching people up
to me. I don't know, I don't know. I mean,

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I love this team, I love the students. I did
until he just seems like he's gotten lazy. He you know,
coaching show. He had Vince Marrow to come on. He
is afraid of the media because he knows that he's
not done his job either one coaching these people up
to word that they want that they have no accountability

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this team, you know, they quit on place they you know,
okay to say that, Say that the vender Griff throws
the ball fifty to fifty ball, Well, that other receiver,
if you can't catch it, you better knock it down.
I'm not just laugh somebody not the other team to
catch it. I don't know where the coaching comes in
at either. What is it? Is it the players themselves

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are just lazy?

Speaker 3 (13:49):
What I appreciate the call. Appreciate the call, Jamie.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
I you get no arguments from me, Jamie, you're getting
no or zero sett them, not a Nathaniel Oh, no
arguments for me. Jeff, Hold onto the phone lines. We'll
be back after this you're listening to Stockyards Bank Sunday
Morning sports Talk on news radio six thirty WLAP.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
This is the home of the Wildcuts six thirty w LAP.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday one the sports Talk Anthony
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(14:33):
eight five nine to eight zero two two eight seven
eight five nine cats. Let's get to the phone lines
because we have a break coming up and see what
Jeff has to say. Jeff Downer and good old Rocky Top.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
What you got for us?

Speaker 7 (14:49):
Well, good morning, and Larry, I just I just want
to say, first of all, I'm not worry about what
Argusas Basketball does this winter. I'm glad we had cal
for fifteen years. I will luck at Arkansas. Uh and
and I thought almost say about that. Also, Indiana beat
Tennessee in an exhibition here a few weeks ago. What
does that tell you? I tell you Rick bartgain't coach,

(15:11):
so you better hurry up go to file for He's seven,
he bet urry up and get one. Uh. First of all,
the football team. I did watch the game last night.
I wasn't going to Uh at first, I wasn't going
on Saturday. I thought about it. I wasn't gonna watch it.
I thought Tennessee went about sixty or nothing. But I
applauded the guy's effort at a halftime. I cannot believe
they were head ten to seven. Maybe he should have

(15:32):
been thirteen. Maybe you should have kicked the field goal
the first drive, but he didn't. I didn't have any
problem in going forward and doing that.

Speaker 6 (15:39):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (15:39):
But but but the thing, if they use guys with
the game, if they don't, if they don't turn it
over twice, then they win the ball game. And vander
Griff don't fumble and Whimsy don't go to intercept and
give them short fields until he wins the football game.
Because four ten of that once came off turnovers short fields.
So that that that I mean, they played to see

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great played them well. I mean, you know, I don't
know what more every you want from this team. I
mean they had what fifteen guys out of whatever it was.
I mean that after their defense was out or whatever
it was. I mean I mean, how many corners route
last night for man? I mean was that four of.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
There's a lot of new blood out there.

Speaker 7 (16:19):
In the DJ Harrison. Harrison hadn't played back for a
full games. He's the best corner they got. He ain't played.
I mean, they're all banged up. Like I saw Brown
going off last out with ribs injury. I hope his
ribs broke out. I hope he's play in two weeks.
Is that we're gonna need him. But h ibout the
one ball the key that wim sit through in the
middle of the field, and that one that Macklin call

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was incredible at one handed catch guys all over, he
still caught it, went the end zone. Couldn't believe that
he caught that ball. But they still had a chance,
but they said they just couldn't get it. Stop that
last drive Tennessee score when they made a ten point game,
and I thought they might score again because you know,
Hybo don't like students too much, the studs family. But
he went took a knee. I don't know why he

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done that, but he did.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Thank you for the call, Jeff. I agree with you though.
Those are good things. Those good things there I did
want to ask Larry Vaught from what Jeff some of
the things that Jeff talked about, And well, we ain't
got a whole lot of time because we got a
break in one minute.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
But Larry Vaught, we ran a little up tempo.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
We ran sometimes on third and mediums, third and longs,
which is not bad for me. I mean, if that
is your mainstay, if you run on third and seven,
hopefully you pick up seven yards.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
But even if you pick up five or six, it.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Puts you on the fourth and one, fourth and one
and a half where maybe you can go for it
like it gets. It gets you a pretty managable where
if you throw on third and seven, which most teams
are gonna do, but if our team is run heavy,
it is it is. I think you go with your
best play. And that's what I've always told you on
the show for a long time. On third and medium
or third even third and ten, you go for or

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whatever your best play is. If it's a screen, I
mean it's probably not a jet, sweet, but if it
is just sweep, it's a jet. But run to play
that everybody knows how to execute and you can get
some yards off of When we come back from the break.
I do kind of want to visit that that bush
Hampdon did do some different things. He did try to run,
hurry up, he did, you know, change quite a few things.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
That doesn't make me happy.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
I want to know how you feel and how you
think the casual fan feels.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
We'll be back after this.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
You're listening to Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk on
news radio six thirty WLAP.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
This is the home of the Wildcats, six thirty WLAP.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony
White alone with the great Larry Vaught this hour of
Sunday Morning Sports Talk. It's brought to you by a
country boy brewing d H and them them boys. We're
talking about mostly at this point, UK football, who went

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down to Knoxville, Tennessee, played a pretty they gave a
lot of effort, played a pretty good game, lost twenty
eight to eighteen. But we also have UK basketball starting
on Monday, women usc Upstate five pm on SEC Network

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Plus and Men's play right State same day at seven pm.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
The care source you and that would be on ESPN.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
You Bo Robinson turned your mic own are one of
these on six thirty. I'm going to assume that we're
going to have Right State on six thirty AM.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
You are correct, So.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
Kentucky and Wright State tomorrow on six point thirty w
LAP with all the pregame post game festivities, and we
will have the women's basketball game on ninety eight point
five FM ah.

Speaker 5 (20:04):
So that's how we do it.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
And when we have a conflict with scheduling, we move
women's basketball to ninety eight point five FM.

Speaker 5 (20:10):
Bull icons good deal.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
So guess who's going to come in and start the
women's game tomorrow night before they go down to the
men's game.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
Who that would be?

Speaker 8 (20:21):
Me?

Speaker 2 (20:21):
The bigger question is who's going to finish the men's game?
About nine is ten o'clock.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
So Billy's got the men's game tomorrow like he always does.
I will start the women's basketball game and then I'm
gonna take off go down to Reperina.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
Good deal.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
Got one of our new part time guys coming in
to do the women's game tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (20:39):
Well so we got you covered.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Well you kind of said it as if h new
part time that don't motivate them. You got to say, yeah,
we got some you know, no wait to talent coming in.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
Excuse me because I was only referred to as part
time employee, never part time talent. I'm just considered a
part time employee meeting. That's why I would refer to
the next person as a part time employee.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Why I wouldn't consider myself talent. I considered Larry Vault
and Jack Pilgrim talent. I think I'm just an employee.
I'm just a button pusher.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
I just show up. Yeah, I just show up and
make this thing go bo.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
You a damn good button pusher. I appreciate that.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
I'm gonna put that on my next resume, business card,
whatever it may be.

Speaker 5 (21:21):
Button pusher, I appreciate you. I like that.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
Larry Vaught.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Before we went to break, I did want to bring
up did you notice that Bush Hampton were doing different things.
I'm not saying, you know, when we're say in their
bag that means be creative, like motion, pulling two or
three people like, you know, just action everywhere. It was
so much that it was just you know, running the ball.
On certain downs. We did try to rus some up tempo.

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We were throwing fifty to fifty balls, which when we
were throwing better fifty to fifty balls. I think we've
been throwing fifty. We were throwing thirty three balls. We're
just throwing them at the sideline and hopefully the guy
catch it that otherwise is going out of boundser intercepted.
But we were throwing fifty to fifty balls like giving.
It was thrown in the field of play where guys
were getting opportunity to make the play. So I do

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think Bush, do you think the heat was on? And
Mark Stoops has finally said, you know what, I gotta
let these guys do what they got to do because
I'm tired of taking the heat. But I do want
to say this before you answered that, Larry, I did
think about it was brought to my attention last caller.
I think it was Jamie who said made the comment,
not the last caller, but I think Jamie was one

(22:32):
who made the comment. And I don't I'm not getting
on Jamie by any means or anything. But he did
make it a point that Vince did the show in
part for Mark Stoops and Larry Vaught. Do you know
why Vince did the show instead of Mark Soups?

Speaker 7 (22:50):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (22:51):
Yeah, because Mark was at his mother's funeral.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Right, So I don't want to carry that narrative too
far down the road that he had avoided it when
the worst that is the worst thing I know, and
I know recently you've had to endure that, and I
cannot try to if if there's any way I could
avoid it, I would. I'm trying to avoid that day myself,

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So I don't want to carry that narrative if anybody
else wants to feel that, well, he didn't go on
the show because of No, that is the reason he
did not do the show. And it is not fair
at all. If you can talk about his team, talking
about his paycheck, anything you want to, but that is
off limits on throwing throwing salt at Mark Stoops, So

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go ahead, Larry.

Speaker 6 (23:42):
Yeah, Yeah, I totally agery. As I said last week,
I thought Mark and his brother having to go through
what they did with their mom's passing and trying to
prepare a team to play last week was probably way
more difficult right after her passing than one it was
this week going to the funeral then coming back. But yeah,

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it's a hard thing. I mean, it's been over what's
getting close to three months now, and I still deal
with issues from my mom's passing, and I don't have
to go out and prepare a college team that everybody
in the world gonna sit on Sunday morning and second
guests and all I ask, So I can't imagine what
it must be like. So yeah, from that aspect, you know,

(24:24):
just kudos to Mark for doing what he's what he
can do right now. I don't care what anybody says.
There's no way total concentration or some of his mind's
still not thinking about his mom, because you just don't
get over that that easily.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
I agree, And maybe that is why he stepped back
from the role which I led this conversation off with.
That he stepped back from the role of maybe people
think he dictates what the offensive coordinators do, and maybe
there's a thought that bush Ham that may not come
back if he doesn't get an opportunity to do what
he wants to do. But did you realize did you
kind of see that he was doing different things? Like

(25:01):
I said, he seemed to ring run up tempo a
little bit. He let Gavin throw the ball down the field.
They threw the ball in in the field to play
Mark Stoops decided to go for it. Uh in the
first quarter, uh did did some of those things kind
of resonate with you? As this is interesting as it
maybe it's do or die. Maybe we're trying to turn

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the page, maybe we're trying to grow.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
What did you take from from those activities?

Speaker 6 (25:30):
I'm sitting there thinking where is yards in the first quarter?
I mean, my gosh, that's what That's what I'm thinking,
where is it? I mean, everything just looks so smooth
and so again, as I said, I'd have any problem
with Mark going ahead and trying to get a touchdown
on that first draft because I think going into that game,
you're not thinking field goals are going to be Tennessee,

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that you're going to have to score points to beat them,
and how many times you can get a chance to
get down there against the defense as good as Tennessee.
So I'd have any problem with that. I thought I
was trying to send a confidence boost to his team. Also,
maybe I was a little wondering about the fourth down call,
But I don't know what would have been a good
call for that's when you can't punch it in by

(26:12):
just running it. I mean in Tennessee, I mean they
had to they just covered the play really well, but no,
I thought either Bush called a really good game or
especially early, or Mark lett him call it really good.
I mean, I don't pretend to know what was going
on there, but I hold that first quarter. I mean,
they hadn't had one hundred and sixty six yards of

(26:33):
offense in a single quarter all season, and to come
out and get that against Tennessee, that was pretty mind boggling.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah, I said, I we almost two hundred yards rushing.
And I still don't think, and You've been saying this
for quite a while, I think we probably need to
turn out a few more plays. Jamari and I will
Coos say, as I stayed earlier, had seventeen carries, then
he had six carries. Didn't Gavin have four? Brock had nine?
With your there were some design runs in there, but

(27:01):
the point is we had thirty seven run players, but
our top back had seventeen. Where you really want to honestly,
you really want to be around that twenty to twenty
four range, especially when both of the back so I
combined it was twenty three between Demi and will Cox
or Jamario, and they both averaged six yards to carry.

(27:23):
So I think you kind of want to stay in
that Wheelhouse one thing that kind of frustrates or I
can't say infuriates us. I don't think I'm not passionate
about it at this point. But we had thirty seven carries.
Jamrio I had seventeen, Demi had six, so that the

(27:44):
other two quarterbacks had thirteen, which is and a lot
of them were design runs. Why not put the ball
in Jamaion's belly. Why not put the ball on Demi's
belly and let them run away? And I understand, Gavin,
if you got some trick coming off, or you got
some wrinkles and you remember a preseasonal We talked to
Bush and we talked to some of the defensive players

(28:06):
and coaches that a lot of the window dressing and
the offense always look the same. So we can't our
trick with Gavin. Wimsack cannot be well, we're gonna fake
the run and run it, or we're gonna hand the
ball off and run it. Like there has to be
a good look on something where they gotta be honest

(28:28):
with will Cox getting the ball. They got to be
honest with Wimsack keeping the ball, and they also have
to be honest with Wimsat throwing the ball, but the
look has to look exactly the same. You can't just hey,
you know, I'm gonna drop him straight back because apparently
they don't have faith in this passing ability. And maybe
at Rutgers they didn't have faith in passing ability. But

(28:50):
it is quite evident to someone that have faith in
this passing ability. But you can make it a lot
easier on them if you're running the same scheme and
looks and have him doing certain things. If he hands
the ball off on a stretch to the left to
will Cox or Denny, then that's fine. If he keeps
it in boot and waggles to the right while the

(29:10):
action is going left because the linebackers are going to
flow left. Now he either has a two way go.
He can neither keep the ball and run it up
the right, or he can have the tight end to
the flat. He can have a deep crossing route on
the backside. He can have a back shoulder fade or
stop route to the right. There's a lot of different
things that he can do. I just and I know

(29:32):
you always defer to my quote unquote expertise, but in
your years of coming to Germanyism and just maybe listening
to some of the things they say, what do you
think spurred this these differences on like why this late
in the season, because there was another thing we're gonna
talk about on another side of the break that there
was another thing that I guess Stoops has decided not

(29:53):
to take some red shirts, like we're not gonna mess
with some people's red shirts so that people who haven't played,
maybe they'll probably play against Lieut in Texas because they
still can maintain the red shirt after playing in four games.
But what do you think sparked this this idea that
we're gonna do something. We're gonna do something. We're gonna
play Willcox, We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna do something

(30:14):
Like why this late in the season.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Are we trying to salvage a Bowl game? Or are
we preparing for next year?

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Are we trying to keep somebody on board that that
was That's what's going on on Twitter right now. People
love jamorro around Willcox, as you and I have said
for the past year or two that he's gonna be
the next up and coming. Now everybody's getting to see
and they're loving it. Now the concern is, well, you know,
our fan base always is how are.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
We gonna keep them? Which is a but which is
a realistic thought.

Speaker 6 (30:43):
Yeah, I think I can't. I don't know. I'm just speculating,
but I would think certainly some of these late game
decisions are gonna be thinking about the roster for twenty
twenty five. What do we have to do to make
sure we keep guys being Stop thinking about Cutter Bowley.
I mean, do you go ahead and make sure you
play him some now, especially against Burray, and let's see

(31:05):
what we're gonna have for next year or what we
could have with Cutter Bowley. I mean, it's one thing
to watch him practice, Let's watch him play in some games.
To go ahead now, because he's played in one game,
he can play in three more and still have a
red shirt year. But as I've said, I don't know
anymore that red shirt years are that important because I
don't know how many gays are going to stay in

(31:26):
your program for five years, Anthony. I don't know how
many are going to stay there. So I think anybody
looks like that they could play on the first game
and could play four plays and help you, I'd be
playing them because I just don't know. Maybe in three years.
I'll look back. I said I was wrong. A good
thing that red shirt of gas all stayed around. But
I just don't know that that's gonna happen. But I

(31:49):
think there's a lot of things you have to factor
in these next three games. Obviously want to still try
to win, but you also I think Stoops has made
it clear he's planning to be back in twenty twenty five,
no matter what some people think. He's planning to be
back as of today. So he's already starting to think
he had been what he has to have for next year,
and I think that'll dictate a lot of these personnel
decisions he makes the next three games about what they

(32:12):
need to do to start getting things back in here
for next year.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Dang that, Larry, that is a hell of a point.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
I didn't think of the whole idea of keeping that
ace in the hole to keep somebody around for next year,
and they may not be there, so you do.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
I never thought about that. We're going to continue this conversation.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
I do want to talk a little bit more about
that on the other side of the break.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
We'll be back after this.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
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Speaker 1 (32:37):
This is the home of the Wildcats, six thirty WLAP.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
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Speaker 2 (32:54):
I am Anthony White. I just unplugged my headphones, so
hold on. I can't hear myself. I accidentally did that.
I was having a good time in the studio. But uh,
I'm Anthony White, along with the great Larry vaughp and
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we went to break that Larry Vaught, And this is
why I love doing this show with you.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
Larry Vaught.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
You don't speak enough, and you don't and you don't.
You don't feed me information enough. We ain't ESPN. Those
people were people to feed you information in your headphones.
Now Bo does a great job when he has nuggets
or something that I miss. You, on the other hand,
do not do that. And I have not understood until
you just formally articulated that the whole and that is

(33:41):
crazy in the landscape of college sports, that if you
hold on to your if we hold on the colored bowl,
he's red shirt that he may he may be disrespected
by that and leave. So that red shirt, said red
shirt that you held on to for not letting him perform.
He'll take that somewhere else because he didn't get the

(34:02):
opportunity before. So what you do now is and this
is not a cutter Bally thing. This is going on
across the country.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
That was just the the analogy we use. We are
using at this point is that he can just leave
and just do have four years to play somewhere else.
It's not malicious that you play him to you know,
I'm gonna take your reds. No, it's not that reasoning.
But when you banking on this guy coming back and

(34:29):
him not getting playtime or hand in hand, I didn't
think about that.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
That is.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
And I knew that, you know, nil and transfer port
on those things, we're gonna change the landscape. But that
is a whole nother nugget. I never thought about Vapp.

Speaker 6 (34:45):
Yeah, I mean it's I don't know how how coaches
balanced all that out. I've talked with some of them,
just in different I mean it's not just in football,
either's in different sports. But there's just a whole different
We think a lot about nil, but the transfer port
will still is out there. And if a guy's not
if you're on him too hard, I think they might transfer.

(35:07):
They don't play them enough, they might they might transfer.
Your team's not good, they might transfer. So that's always
got to be in the back of your mind. I mean,
I think Mark and Vince and and mar and all
those guys, and bred White, they're having to re recruit
their whole team every year, and I can't imagine how
hard that must be with what they're trying to go
through now and balance all this out. It's just I mean,

(35:27):
I see what happens. Even on the high school level, guys,
you know, players just change teams kind of on a whim.

Speaker 7 (35:34):
Anymore.

Speaker 6 (35:34):
In college it's even easier and happens so much more.
So if you if you just sit here and think, well, man,
I well it's going to do to keep this guy
for five years, I think you're living in the past.
You I suppose, see what you can do to keep
him here next month. Is kind of what the attitude's.

Speaker 7 (35:48):
Got to be.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Every while, we got about one minute before we go
to break, but before we go to break W nineteen
seventy four member contributor Joshkatis with the big touchdown, so hey,
right now he should be eating good?

Speaker 3 (36:02):
What does a touchdown go for?

Speaker 2 (36:03):
With nil? With W nineteen seventy four, or just in general?
What is the touchdown going? What is Josh cattis looking
to collect this this morning? Oh?

Speaker 6 (36:12):
I would think he could adopt all the pets.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
What do you think? I guess, man, you know what
that means? He can afford to get me that shit suit. Possibly,
But we gotta find something. Yeah, we got to find
people the babysity when I go out of town, because
I am going out of town next week. I'll be
out of town next week with you. I ain't bo

(36:35):
You and Lacy need to put something together. I'll get
a pet bow if you'll help a brother out. But
you work a lot more than me. And you didn't
get in last night to what three four in the morning. No,
I was at home at what time?

Speaker 5 (36:46):
At what time?

Speaker 3 (36:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (36:48):
Eleven thirty No, but you didn't go to bed till
three or four. I went to bed at eleven thirty five.
Friday night was my night out.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Friday night was the night you came in late, Yes,
and it took your whole day to recover.

Speaker 5 (37:01):
Pretty much.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
You're not doing it right, bo I, guess not.

Speaker 5 (37:03):
I'm old.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
We'll be back after this year.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
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