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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk, presented by
the lead troop Barde Radio Network on six thirty WLAP.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Welcome in Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony
White along with Larry Vaught and Jack Pilgrim, coming to
you from Clark's Main Street Market Studios and downtown Lexington, Kentucky.
Good morning, guys, bye week. This week in football basketball,
(00:32):
I guess it's right around the corner, but volleyball is
in full swing and the ncuble A is over there
making changes. Everything that they've implemented, they're adjusting and we
thought it would be a process. All those things are
going on. Got a good show lined up for you all.
(00:52):
But Larry Vault before we get to that, how was
your weekend? How is your week?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Week?
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Was very good?
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Got to watch Kentucky beat Louwell and volleyball, got to
watch my dan Vladmins win a game Friday night, and
got to judge at Chili cook off yesterday.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
So it's been a good few days.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
Is that the first winning Danville in three years?
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Or they're actually four and one this year?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Okay, I know they won a couple of years. About
having any wins, and that had to be tough for
you all down there.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
So yeah, they're back doing a little better this year.
Speaker 6 (01:28):
Good deal, good deal, Jack Pilgrim yourself.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
We're we're alive, We're well.
Speaker 7 (01:38):
It was a good weekend all the way up until
last night about nine o'clock.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Had a very.
Speaker 7 (01:45):
Unfortunate and surprise trip to the er last night. I
didn't get home till two thirty am. Some went went
wrong with little man. So we're very very blessed to
be jumping on the trampoline and jumping into the ball
pit this morning after not not one very concerned worried
about what what was what was to come last this,
(02:06):
you know, late late into the early hours of this morning.
So we're but we're good man' we're blessed on this
on the Sunday morning.
Speaker 6 (02:15):
Well, prayers to you all.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
If it started at two in the morning, what time
did it finish, What time did it conclude that you
got back home?
Speaker 6 (02:22):
Maybe we Sunday morning, We.
Speaker 7 (02:25):
Got home at two thirty in the morning. It all
kind of started nine nine ish bed bedtime routine.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
We'd we'd been been down at a at a.
Speaker 7 (02:35):
Birthday party during the day and and everything was totally fine,
and then it was it was down in Elkton, Kentucky.
So it was a three hour drive home, and you know,
by the time we finally got home and started putting
the kids down and all that, it just kind of.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
All heck broke loose there at the very.
Speaker 7 (02:53):
Tail end of it, well while I was holding them
and putting them down and in his crib, had a
little little medical episode. So we were just very just
thrown off and it was just pretty traumatic. But got
heard what we wanted to hear when we went to
the doctor and there went to the er, and everything
kind of turned out the way we were thought and expected,
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and we are prepared for future episodes or anything now,
so we're the worst should be behind us. But it's
just one of those you know, you're never expecting it
to happen until it happens to yours, and so we're
just very grateful that he's you know, normal and playing
and acting like his normal, silly self. So so we're
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we're good. We're we could be a lot worse this morning,
and we're glad we're not well.
Speaker 6 (03:42):
I'm glad to hear that side of the news. But
the other side of the news.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I'm glad here and I know you're lieu of Louis
Villian and the Skinner's Winners keep on winning. Our only
loss coming to I don't know, the the Achilles Hill
Pittsburgh and the number one team in the country, the
Brass Good Boa. We did beat you guys up, we
did beat Louisville, but I don't know who you guys
are because you're from Louisville, but you're a UK fan.
(04:07):
So uh, Skinner's Winners keeps on winning.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Jack, Dude, I just love this team so much.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
I've watched more Kentucky volleyball this year, and I always,
you know, watched the Big Top five, Top ten, Big
SEC rivals. You know, I love the sport of volleyball
in general. But man, just just this team. There's just
they're so likable either, there's you know, so much hard
and just the way Craig built the schedule of just
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Doozy after Doozy after Doozy. It's just so fun to
just know that you're going to every time you turn
on the TV it's gonna be some top ten matchup,
some name brand opponent Like this is just so much
fun and for them to dominate down the stretch the
way they did against Louisville. That was that was just
a clinic. I mean, you get get down behind, it's ugly,
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it's it's you know, things aren't going your way. You're
in in a you know, hostile road environment. And then man,
you get down two to one and then just everything
starts clicking for you and you just put on a
show down the stretch and send all those card home
card fans home upset and sad. And that's exactly what
your job is to do when you go on the road,
(05:19):
is to send that the home fans uh, sad and
lonely on the drive home. So we did our job
and we lived to tell the tale afterwards. So shout
out Craig. Craig Skinner in that group. Man, I love
watching them play.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
And Larry Jack is absolutely right put together the schedule
you did.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I mean, I know football, everybody knows that the SEC's
every every game, Like even Vandy right down was looking
really really good in football. But uh, Craig Skinner, this
team is going to be battle tested the entire year.
So even once you get to tournament time, there's nothing
going you know, just going to shake them because they've
been playing a tournament schedule all year long. Larry Vaught,
(06:01):
are you surprised at the outcome? I know we expect them,
you know, to be in the top of the country
and possibly try to get number two. But like I said,
every time you turn around, they're playing a top team,
top team in the country, top ten team in the country.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
No, there's still plenty of room on the vandwagon.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Just jump off.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
I mean, this team has won eight straight SEC championships,
got a national title just a few years ago, went
to the Elite eight last year. Remember I told you
when it started, I thought this the most depth he's
ever had, and that was definitely a team to go
in the national title. And they are just playing fantastic
and to get that win at Louisville when Cassie O'Brien
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goes down after three sets with the leg injury, I mean,
they've been like taking Emma Grom out and your big
match and all of a sudden you don't have Emma.
That's not good. But Avas Sarafa came in and was sensational.
Jordan Daly came off the bench and was really good,
and I think our favorite reserve Molly Bratzowitz.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
She just continues to.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Amaze me with her overall play and energy that she's
given to this team. She's got a much bigger role
than I think I thought she might have when she
transferred in. But I think that this shows the power
Sunday Morning sports Talk kill that's inspired her. I'm sure
to what she is doing. But now this team is
fun to watch, and all the Crags teams are that way,
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and this schedule probably has maybe one more Top ten
team than what they would normally play at this time
of year. But he always does that. I mean, he
always loads that schedule up, and that's what makes them
good at the end of the year. It's also what
makes it hard sometimes for them to be able to
host the Sweet sixteen games because they do take a
few bumps along the way and that knocks them out
(07:46):
of that one of those top four seeds to get
a chance to host. But right now they're back in
position that if they can take care of business in
the sec they by putting the solf, that win at
Louswell could very well put them in a position where
they could hope a Sweet sixteen, and that would really
be huge forms that have to go on the road
that round.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
How much uh, how much does Craig have power does
he have in the making the schedule?
Speaker 6 (08:12):
A lot of those stands are what's.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
That a thousand percent?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Really so he can hand pick his schedule, Like I
thought a lot of that was like TV deals and
whatever else. But I guess we are one of the
top brands in volleyball. So if you if you agree
with if the other team agrees to for a match
with us, then I guess they have to take it.
But I thought I didn't know that even football, that
the coaches had that much. I thought they were like
(08:38):
TV rights and all that stuff as far as football
is concerned. I didn't know that volleyball had the same
all right. I didn't know volleyball had all time to be.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
With the coaches.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Some of those matches are made for TV, and if
Craig didn't want to, he could turn them down. But
he's not gonna turn him down. I mean, if anybody
wants to play him, he's he's gonna sign up and
go and go play.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
That's just the way he's all he's.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Been And I think that's one thing it helps him
in recruiting as players know when they come here they're
going to get to do this. And now this year,
where they've already been on Fox, they've been on ABC,
they've been on the ESPN already. That kind of exposure
has helped it even more in recruiting and boat.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
We don't cover a lot of volleyball, but we did
cover volleyball last week. And is that due to the
attraction of the schedule now, but we did have a
bye week in football, so the airways have to be
filled or is that just the popularity of UK volleyball both.
Speaker 8 (09:38):
I think it's the popularity of UK volleyball. We've been
doing volleyball for a few years now, and granted it's
not ten games, it's not eleven games, not fifteen, but
I think we've been averaging five or six. And I
was telling Larry off the air that if this season
continues to be a success as it is, maybe we
(10:00):
get some postseason volleyball matches on the air. Now, it's
gonna be a little tough in November because we're going
to be in crossover season between football and basketball. But
if we can make Kentucky men's basketball, women's basketball, and
baseball work at the same time in March. Then certainly
we can make volleyball work too. So I hope it happens.
I really do, because there is a huge interest in
(10:24):
Kentucky volleyball right now. And how many times do we
hear John Short talking about UK volleyball calling got or
how many interviews are you hearing about UK volleyball and
really being pushed into the forefront of UK athletics. I
think it's awesome.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
I really do.
Speaker 8 (10:39):
So hopefully it happens we get more on WLAP for everybody.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
And that is interesting coming from a producer, because the
more time we have to or not have to, the
more time we get to spend on air with UK
Athletics makes the producers.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Have to spend more time in the studios.
Speaker 8 (10:54):
Guess where I was at yesterday.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
I'm going to assume you're win the studio all day.
Speaker 8 (11:00):
Guess where I was last Sunday.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I know where you were in the morning. I don't
know where you were at after twelve o'clock.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
I was here.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
See did you not?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Did you not read the description when you signed up
for that job.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
I wouldn't expect to see you Jeff Ruby's.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Or anything or Tony's or anything, or at a country
Boy because country Boy opened up what like a month ago,
two months ago, the one in Lexington.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Country Boy Brewery.
Speaker 8 (11:30):
I'm fine right here. You know, I'm blessed and just
lucky to have a part time job that I really
enjoy and.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I'm blessed to have you and I appreciate having it.
I really enjoy you and UK basketball Big Blue Madness
is right around the corner. That is Bo Robinson, Larry
Vaught and Jack Pilgrim and I will continue this conversation
on the other side of the break. You were listening
to Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk on news Radio
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Speaker 1 (11:56):
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the show eight five nine to eight zero two two
eight seven that's eight five, nine to eight zero cats,
Jack Pilgrim, there's been we did not play the Kentucky Wildcats,
did not play football yesterday, and there was a lot
of football going on. There's a lot of football football.
I got to watch South Carolina a little bit. Sellers
(12:45):
is back because that's what we play this week. We
also played them in volleyball on Wednesday, but we have
them here, but we have to go down to Columbia
Saturday to play them in football, and South Carolina looked
a little vulnerable. Vanderbilt did score seventy points, so I'm
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not sure. And what I said before, we went to
break right around the corner from basketball season starting Big
Blue Madness is the eleventh of October, so that is
right around the corner. But until basketball officially kicks off,
I don't know if we've actually turned the corner, Jack Pillgrim.
(13:26):
So have you watched South Carolina or the rest of
the sec or is it time to turn the.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Page to basketball?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Or some of the things you saw yesterday or heard
or watched a little bit later convince you that you know,
I want to see how this football season turns out,
and you're not going to turn the page in basketball
because I know the fan our listeners are already going
to jump on your head because they call you a
basketball guy.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
No, that's fair, and I'll take pride in enjoying as
the winningest tradition in college basketball history. I take no, No,
don't take that personally.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
I kept a close eye on everything that unfolded yesterday,
and you know, some surprising results, unexpected results. The you know,
Illinois getting absolute curb stomped by Indiana as a top ten,
top top twenty matchup, but top ten team in Illinois
getting destroyed.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
That was fascinating, but a lot of expected.
Speaker 7 (14:25):
You know, Florida stinks out loud, Miami took them, you know,
took them to the woodshed a little bit.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
That was that was expected there.
Speaker 7 (14:33):
Very not pleased with Billy Napier down down in Old Gainesville,
you know, Ole miss. I think that the John Sumral Bowl.
I think Kentucky fans had that two lane game, very
close eye on that one to see how competitive it
ended up being, you know, with the with the John
Somemmral dynamic, and that ended up being a forty five
ten absolute blowout. So maybe not the result that fans
(14:56):
or if you're a Kentucky fan wanting John summrall, I
think an upset there would have you know, probably catapulted
him into the Oh well, Florida has to fire Billy
Napier so that, you know, John summerl is now the
all in favorite there. So maybe that works in Kentucky
fans favor for them to not pull off that big upset.
But those two teams kind of looked exactly where they
(15:17):
were as a top fifteen SEC opponent and a you know,
no non power for team, so.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
A lot of expected results.
Speaker 7 (15:25):
Andy putting up seventy against Georgia State doesn't do anything
for me. But yeah, in the Missouri South Carolina game,
I think scares me quite a bit because now South
Carolina is kind of playing that, hey.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
We're now fighting for bowl eligibility.
Speaker 7 (15:41):
We're went into the year thinking that we were a
legitimate playoff contender. Now we're fighting to stay alive as
a bowl team. So they're going to be coming into
that next week matchup unbelievably hungry and wanting them to
make a statement there.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
So kind of almost wish that they.
Speaker 7 (15:59):
Pulled that went off to let them go into that
game on a high and we could kind of rip
the rug out from underneath them.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
But you know, pretty crazy day out there in the SEC.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Jack, Do you know how disrespectful that is when you
say that every week about someone being upset coming in
to play us?
Speaker 6 (16:18):
Can you can? You can?
Speaker 7 (16:20):
For old Miss? We spent a why Old Miss was
gonna be better, They're gonna be worse because of how
much roster turned over that and the results still ended
up being what we all thought it would be. The
Old Miss beat us? Or do we beat ourselves?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
They so hold on if I for years, whenever you
and I talked off the air on it, do I
do you think winning is enough for me?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Like?
Speaker 6 (16:46):
Oh the game?
Speaker 3 (16:47):
No?
Speaker 6 (16:47):
I mean no, winning is not enough.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
You want the opponent to know, you know what, damn
I didn't have a chance, Like you want them to
know that they lost. You don't want them to walk
away thinking you got lucky. If someone says that to you,
that's district spectful. Jack, and I just like I said,
everybody comes in here with a chip on their shoulder,
and you don't like chips on people's shoulders.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
Uh, But I just I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
So we never are we We can never get any
respect as a football team because every time we beat
somebody or or someone loses to another team, then they
have to play us after. We need to be on
the watch out right. But the only only point I
will give you that coming off of bye week stoops,
stoops this. So I would give you that. But the
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way you made it sound is if we better look
out because South Carolina's gonna be angry.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
That's not My counter is.
Speaker 7 (17:38):
Had South Carolina dominated and kind of I think it
would have been easy for them to get high off
of that ranked win getting back, you know, they're probably
ranked after that going into next week, having them kind
of overlooking Kentucky and we can play our play our
game like I think it would have worked out our
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favor in that way. But now there is a level
of urgency for South Carolina again, a team that had
legitimate chance, not championship, but legitimate college football playoff aspirations
going into the season.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
They are now two and two, looking two and three.
Speaker 7 (18:17):
Down the barrel and saying we got to figure this
out or or the wheels are going to fall off
here here in Colombia.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
What are we going to do about it? Like it
just I would have preferred that they have a reason.
Speaker 7 (18:30):
To overlook us, but now it's physically impossible for them
to overlook us. Not saying that it's going to you know,
impact anything, but of the two scenarios, I think you
would probably agree that you would rather your opponent be
overlooking you so you can come in with an edge.
You can come in and looking to make your own
statement instead of having it kind of you know, hammer
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versus the nail dynamic. I'm not saying anything controversial, it's
but also on top of the bye week blues that
we constantly deal with with with stoops as well, well,
this is this kind of a perfect storm. You would
prefer it not be coming off a byweight, and you
would rather be them feeling cough over confident going into
the smashup.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Larry Valp, We're gonna get to you when we come
back from break because South Carolina gave up with a
lot of rushing yards to eighty five, and that's one
thing we can do.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
Run the ball.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Because I ain't gonna say big blue water, I'm gonna
use that term for a while, but we're gonna continue
this conversation when we come back. You're listening to Stockyards
Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk on news Radio six thirty WLAP.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
This is Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk presented by
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Speaker 2 (19:41):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony White,
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Before we went to break, Jack Pigrim was showing this
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pity that South Carolina lost to Missouri yesterday and gave
up to two hundred and eighty five yards. Russian Missouri
ran the ball, however, wherever, whenever they wanted to, and
that is a strong suit of our game. Now, sellers
in the South Carolina game, Cocks did throw for three
hundred yards, So.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
There's that to be concerned about.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
And people are concerned about Brad White's defense, how soft
our defensive backs have been playing recently, So there's a
little bit concern. But I got a lot of respect,
and I got a lot of faith in our family.
I mean, I've got in our team. But so hlarrybod
I do want to know how do you feel about
going to the South Carolina game? But I also want
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to get to at some point after the discussion that
Jack Pigrim did bring up Lane Kiffins, Old Miss Rebels
played against the fighting John Somemrrol's of Tulane and they looked, well,
(21:06):
I'm not gonna say they look as bad as we did.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
The scoreboard did.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
So if you didn't watch the game, you took the scoreboard,
then the team that John Somerral has down there probably
is not as good or as not put together as
well as the one that Mark Steut's put up here,
because the scoreboard, if you you know, if you do
football math, Kentucky Wildcats played a lot better against Old
Miss than Tulane. And John Somerral, those guys played against
Old Miss. So you could put the fan base and
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put that the rest or, and Jack eloquently put him.
Any of those questions you have about John Somerrals.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
Is next up.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Okay, he couldn't beat Old Miss. Now, mind you, we
didn't beat Old Miss either this year. We did beat
him last year, and as I told Jack Pilgrim, we
did have an opportunity to beat him this year, we
just Keystone copped it up. We just bumbled, We just
bumbled it. I don't think John Somerral had a chance
of winning that game period, at any point. So if
you want John somewhere else, which he's a former player
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like myself, so I respect him and I love him.
But if you guys want to scrap this this year's
or you want to scrap this what we have going
on with Mark Stoops And if you think that's the answer,
then if you want to keep football math and keep
football math. And but we do have South Carolina coming
up this weekend. Larry Vaught and South Carolina looked extremely
(22:29):
vulnerable against Missouri. But maybe Missouri is a lot better
than the Kentucky Wildcats.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Well, first, let me say, you surely don't think they've
got the same resources as Tulane they have at Kentucky,
do you?
Speaker 6 (22:43):
So let me let me let me say this to you,
Larry Vaught.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
And someone told me last week someone thought it was
interesting our back and forth.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
I do. I apologized to you. I was a little
rough on you last week.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
I was.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
You're my mom's age, so I should respect you a
lot more than I did last week, but I was
upset because I don't like our fan base not So
let's get back to what you're saying.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
Do we have the resources. Here's the thing, Larry Va.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
We have the resources we have now because of what
Mark Stoops has done, and every and and maybe John
somewhere all can bring in the same guys we're bringing
in and coach them. The one thing you, you and
the fan base may not be giving, uh Mark Stoops
credit for everything he's doing now has never been done here.
(23:33):
So you may be right. Maybe John somemer all can
up and maybe he can raise the stakes. He can
maybe he can raise the raise the bar we are saying.
This guy has raised the bar. So you know we've
even under even under Brooks, we had to bring three stars,
two stars and three stars and try to create them
into something and he did a pretty good job of that.
But he also knew the covers were bearing before he
(23:54):
left the program. The joker I'm saying Mark Stoops is
every year he's he's fighting Clawn.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
Okay, maybe his end game.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Is not leaves a lot to be desired as far
as some decision making coming off by weeks going into
halves coming out of half.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
Maybe those things aren't.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
But when you're saying, you're rolling the dice to say that, well,
if John Somerral had the same resources, tomort s soupers
And I'm not gonna argue that.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
I'm not going to be against it, but.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Just to act, to be on faceback, act like Kentucky
is like Florida where we've won national championships and we
expected coach to bring us back there, No, he we
are swimming in uncharted territory.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
You can't have it both ways, Anthony, What do you
mean I'm saying all I'm saying you can't. How do
you know what John Somemrall might do if he had
those resources. I'm just saying the fact that Mississippi b
Tulane shouldn't be a surprise because they've got far more
resources than what Tulane would have. That's all I'm saying there.
Maybe John Sunrall will do this, but he doesn't have
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equal resources. So I think you got to take that
in consideration right now. And don't forget Mark Soops did
go four and eight last year. They did regress back,
so it's six to one.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Half does the other.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
But again talking about South Carolina. Yeah, it was encouraging
to see that Missouri just ran the ball and will
against South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Yes, it was.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
Concerning to see the South Carolina threw the ball so
well on the road and all like that. So I
must stay in the i' must say in the Jack
Pilgrim corner. You still got to show me to convince me.
And I don't think that's disrespect. It's just from what
we've seen the last year and a half. Let's go
to South Carolina and win the game, and then we'll
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get on that wagon. But until you see them do it,
I think we still got to wait and just see
what's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
One And this is where I staid, even as a
former player and a fan of the University of Kentucky
football team, this whole thing about you all saying, well.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
Well, we'll wait and see and when it looks good. No,
you don't get to jump on the bandwagon.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
You do not get to jump on the bandwagon once
everything starts going now. And and the other part I
have a problem with is you said that we do
you honestly, Larry Vaut, Do you honestly think we regressed
or do you think we stumbled backwards last year? Do
you think we regressed like that is our trending direction?
Or you know you you took a hit in the
chin and you and you got you got a little woozy,
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got a little dage, stumbled.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Four and eight.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
My mind is regressing.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
So that's the direction. Regressing, mean that is the direction
you're going? Or is it just a minor setting back
last year?
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Yes, huh, that's a direction. That's the direction they went
last year.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yes, Jack Pilgrim, Do you do you honestly think this team?
So if so, if you think we're for and that
we're gonna go four and eight again, even we'll save
in five and seven.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
Right, So that was a that was just a setback
last year or not?
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Well, you just said they regressed last year. Now let's
see it.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
You said that, I said they took a step back,
they stumbled.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Okay, well, now let's see. I think it's take a
step forward.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
But I haven't seen a step forward yet this year
with the record they've got, They've beat two teams they
were favored to beat, they lost to the one team
that they weren't favored to beat, and they're not going
to be favored to win many more games going forward.
So to me, they've not taken a step forward yet.
They still got chances to but they've not done it yet.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
So I will I will ask you this. We did lose,
Ohle Miss. I'm gonna give you that. That's the game
I thought we would win. I think that's a game
we could have said.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
It's a fact. That's how you're not giving us that
that's a fact.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
No, No, I'm saying, if he cleans up some of
the coaching decisions, right, if we clean up some of
the coaching decisions against Old Miss, maybe have a different
person in a quarterback, do you think the outcome is different?
Speaker 6 (27:47):
And I'm not trying that, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Doing it if and then statements to try to but
I'm saying, are though, if those things are correctable and
Old Miss is the top team, if we fix those things,
are those things fixable, which means we could possibly be
better down the road. That's where I'm coming from. We
lost to All Miss team. Everybody expected us to lose.
I did not expect us to lose a game. We
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made some bone We made a lot of boneheaded decisions
which I think could be corrected. If we correct those
things going down the road, do we have an opportunity
to win more games if we get those things corrected. Now,
I do understand you and Jack and our fan base
don't have faith and the fact that Stoops can clean
up some of his coaching antics and in game decisions.
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I'm just like you want to wait and see how
the season's going to end. I'm kind of I guess
I got a little bit more faith just because his
last name is Stoops and I know what that family
name brings that he can get those things together, and
I think if it does, the season looks a whole
lot brighter.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Well, yeah, if they got a quarterback who we think
can move the ball now, and if they don't make
this sideline mistakes, yeah, I could get But again that's
that oh if and in game we still got to
see it. We still got to see it happen. But
I want you to get to so I want you
to talk. Let Jack talk about that Pat Kelsey Mark
Pope fight. I know it's not football for you, but
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that's still one of the big things I want to
hear about from Jack.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Well, hold on, we will talk about that, but let's
get to the phone lines really quickly and see what
our buddy John Short has to say. Good morning, John Short.
What do you got for us before we turn over
to basketball?
Speaker 9 (29:31):
Let me know, I say great when we had or
little in volleyball green when we had were University of
Washington in volleyball team.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
We have a good volleyball team. And I don't think
we beat Louisville. I think last time we beat Louisville
I might have been. I may have been in my thirties,
Jack John Short, because a.
Speaker 9 (29:51):
Little vie is four years in a row until now.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
Really it's only been four years.
Speaker 9 (29:56):
Yeah, yep, it did.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
It's been since twenty nineteen season. But it had only
been four matches.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Ah, I got you. So I was not it in
my thirties. I was in my forties. I was pretty old.
Speaker 9 (30:11):
Yeah, no contents. So that was a gym game of
the game. And then Henry Will we lost in the soccer.
Every wonted soccer. Who do you play today? In soccer?
Speaker 6 (30:23):
We play hold on, I should have had that.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
That is my.
Speaker 6 (30:30):
Soccer. We have Missouri women's soccer.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
We have.
Speaker 9 (30:36):
We'll be the game of Tim Biggins.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
And you can watch it on the SEC plus that's
one of those extra.
Speaker 9 (30:45):
Okay, and we're gonna be saxs andied by Tim Biggins
is coming Saturday. It'll be a great game. Is Conning
Bowley's real name? Is that his real name?
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Cutter Bowley?
Speaker 9 (30:56):
Yeah? Yes, sir, oh, I thought it might be an
it's what's the real name? But I know I didn't
know it's real names. Our roball game, Wayne, take a
second on radio?
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Bo Robinson a South Carolina seven pm gonna be on
the radio. But if not, you can catch on the
sect SEC network. But Bo's not going to be on
the radio. Uh, go back. I was dealing with the
South Carolina. South Carolina volleyball gonna be on Wednesday?
Speaker 6 (31:27):
Is it going to be on the radio.
Speaker 8 (31:29):
No, I don't know. Let me check on that. It's
not on my schedule. So if it's not on my schedule,
then I don't think we're doing it.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
No, it doesn't sound like it doesn't. It doesn't say
it online, but.
Speaker 8 (31:40):
Things can change. I could always get that text message
to say, hey, are you available for volleyball on Wednesday night?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
And I'll say yes, I am played Georgia Saturday in
seven pm.
Speaker 6 (31:54):
You'd have to come and you have to be in
the house.
Speaker 9 (31:59):
It's something winning championship. This year our FILO four will
be Kentucky, Vandonbilt, George and Alabama and volleyball.
Speaker 6 (32:07):
I don't know anything about Vanderbilt volleyball.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
I'm gonna give you the benefit of the dollar on that,
John Shore, You're very optimistic, man, Yeah, because.
Speaker 9 (32:15):
I always love to stick with the South East of conference.
No other conference in the.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
California sport Indeed, John Short, we appreciate your call. I'm
gonna Larry Vatda'm gonna go to break first. Then we're
gonna come back and find out if Mark Pope is
getting into skirmishes and scuffles. We will discuss that when
we come back. You are listening to Stockyards Bank Sunday
Morning Sports Talk on news radio six thirty WLAP.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
This is Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk presented by
the lead Tripports Radio Network on six thirty w l
A P.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Welcome back Hurts Bank Sunday More Sports Talk. I'm Anthony
White along with Larry Va Jack Pilger. You like that, yeah, man.
You invest in the business. Both best in the business.
I couldn't even I can't even get the intro out
man Jack Pilgrim before we went to break and obviously
(33:14):
I think the intro music kind of introduces the topic.
There's so many things. Well, this is gonna I think
this is gonna spill over to the next hour. Mark
Bo Pat Kelsey meeting at the recruise house at midnight
about to throw them hands. Jack Pilger, please please clear
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some of this up for Larry and I.
Speaker 7 (33:39):
Yeah, I don't know that something happened, and I know
it certainly something happened, but I think it's become a
game of a bad game of telephone ever since where
it I think the reality of it. He doesn't create
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for a drama filled story the way that it's become
with the two squaring up outside of a teenage kid's
apartment at midnight.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Like it sounds good to.
Speaker 7 (34:14):
Say that the UK and U of L coaches are
you know, about to fight, But I think the truth
is a little bit closer to Hey, it was a
miscommunication on time. Mark Pope was supposed to arrive at
midnight because that was right when the recruiting period started.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
He got there a couple of minutes late.
Speaker 7 (34:36):
Pat Kelsey was already there waiting for his turn after
Mark Pope wrapped up, so he said, well, if Mark
Pope isn't there, then I'm gonna step in. I'm not
gonna wait for somebody else. I'm gonna go take advantage
of my time. Mark Pope arrives, says, hey, little man,
why what do you think you're doing here? Why are
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you cutting the line? Well, you didn't show up up
on time, so tough, and that leads to a, well,
I think you cut in front of the line and
broke the rules by getting there before midnight. Well, are
you accusing me of cheating? I would never do such
a thing, And it leads to that kind of don't
make this something that doesn't need to be kind of
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verbal spat not necessarily a hey, we're getting out the
boxing gloves and going a couple rounds. So yeah, something
in a verbal altercation did happen. It did happen in
the hour shortly minutes, shortly after midnight for a kid
that neither of those programs are going to get anyway,
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and it just reeks of it, reeks of the kid's side,
the kid's camp kind of gloating like we're not going
to either of these schools and we had them fighting
over fighting over us at midnight. Isn't that funny?
Speaker 3 (35:53):
You know?
Speaker 7 (35:54):
I think it's just kind of water under the bridge
at this point. I think it was a big nothing
burger that blew up into something big because it got
unfortunately leaked in the day's days leading up to the
kid's commitment. So tough, tough look on the kid to
leak that or whoever close to take and.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
He decided to leak that right now.
Speaker 7 (36:13):
But yeah, we definitely got some some rivalry juices going
a little bit, you know, too much nice nice guy
stuff between the two, too much love.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Like I'm glad that we have.
Speaker 7 (36:26):
A you know, it's not a hate filled rivalry between
the two, but we need some type of juice, We
need some type of something to get after. So this
if maybe this pours a little bit of the gasoline
on the fire and they start going at it a
little bit more.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
But it definitely almost.
Speaker 7 (36:43):
Didn't come to blows the way it was initially rumored
and reported.
Speaker 8 (36:47):
He at least the timing was pretty good with Kentucky
football having to off weekend and gave us some to
talk about over the last couple of days.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
And Jack, where where does a kids sit in this?
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Guys, guys come on now like being like, what does
the kids sit in this?
Speaker 6 (37:06):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (37:08):
And maybe you know, maybe you don't know, maybe you
have a you know, take a guess where does the
kids sit in this? Whole idea that hey, look like
you said this is this is foolish. You guys both
look like fools. Or is it like, hey, this is
interesting that they're fighting over me.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (37:26):
The rumor is that Tay Kenny didn't didn't love seeing
two grown men, well grown relatively speaking with Pat Kelsey,
but two adult males fighting over him outside of an
apartment building in Atlanta, Georgia.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
I don't think that was, you know.
Speaker 7 (37:45):
Preferred on their side, But I do kind of have
a little, small, little theory here because Mark Polton had
to have known that Kentucky was out of the running already,
like they had been kind of pulling out of the
race and pivot toward other recruits at this stage anyway,
And it was all kind of fishy to begin with
that he decided to show up to a kid that
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he knew he wasn't going to get at midnight. So
maybe it was intentional maybe he intentionally blew this up
so Pat Kelsey didn't get him either and sent them elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Well that is Jack Pilgrim and there was no fisticuffs thrones,
so don't worry. No one was harmed in the discussion
of our recruiting process.
Speaker 6 (38:26):
We will be back after this.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
You're listening to Stockyards, Bank, Sunday Wore, and Sports Talk
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This is Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk, presented by
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Welcome in Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony
White along with Larry Vaught and Jack Pilgrim, coming to
you from Clark's Main Street Market Studios and downtown Lexington, Kentucky.
Good morning, guys, bye week. This week in football basketball,
(00:32):
I guess it's right around the corner, but volleyball is
in full swing and the ncuble A is over there
making changes. Everything that they've implemented, they're adjusting and we
thought it would be a process. All those things are
going on. Got a good show lined up for you all.
(00:52):
But Larry Vault before we get to that, how was
your weekend? How is your week?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Week?
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Was very good?
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Got to watch Kentucky beat Louwell and volleyball, got to
watch my dan Vladmins win a game Friday night, and
got to judge at Chili cook off yesterday.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
So it's been a good few days.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
Is that the first winning Danville in three years?
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Or they're actually four and one this year?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Okay, I know they won a couple of years. About
having any wins, and that had to be tough for
you all down there.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
So yeah, they're back doing a little better this year.
Speaker 6 (01:28):
Good deal, good deal, Jack Pilgrim yourself.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
We're we're alive, We're well.
Speaker 7 (01:38):
It was a good weekend all the way up until
last night about nine o'clock.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Had a very.
Speaker 7 (01:45):
Unfortunate and surprise trip to the er last night. I
didn't get home till two thirty am. Some went went
wrong with little man. So we're very very blessed to
be jumping on the trampoline and jumping into the ball
pit this morning after not not one very concerned worried
about what what was what was to come last this,
(02:06):
you know, late late into the early hours of this morning.
So we're but we're good man' we're blessed on this
on the Sunday morning.
Speaker 6 (02:15):
Well, prayers to you all.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
If it started at two in the morning, what time
did it finish, What time did it conclude that you
got back home?
Speaker 6 (02:22):
Maybe we Sunday morning, We.
Speaker 7 (02:25):
Got home at two thirty in the morning. It all
kind of started nine nine ish bed bedtime routine.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
We'd we'd been been down at a at a.
Speaker 7 (02:35):
Birthday party during the day and and everything was totally fine,
and then it was it was down in Elkton, Kentucky.
So it was a three hour drive home, and you know,
by the time we finally got home and started putting
the kids down and all that, it just kind of.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
All heck broke loose there at the very.
Speaker 7 (02:53):
Tail end of it, well while I was holding them
and putting them down and in his crib, had a
little little medical episode. So we were just very just
thrown off and it was just pretty traumatic. But got
heard what we wanted to hear when we went to
the doctor and there went to the er, and everything
kind of turned out the way we were thought and expected,
(03:15):
and we are prepared for future episodes or anything now,
so we're the worst should be behind us. But it's
just one of those you know, you're never expecting it
to happen until it happens to yours, and so we're
just very grateful that he's you know, normal and playing
and acting like his normal, silly self. So so we're
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we're good. We're we could be a lot worse this morning,
and we're glad we're not well.
Speaker 6 (03:42):
I'm glad to hear that side of the news. But
the other side of the news.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I'm glad here and I know you're lieu of Louis
Villian and the Skinner's Winners keep on winning. Our only
loss coming to I don't know, the the Achilles Hill
Pittsburgh and the number one team in the country, the
Brass Good Boa. We did beat you guys up, we
did beat Louisville, but I don't know who you guys
are because you're from Louisville, but you're a UK fan.
(04:07):
So uh, Skinner's Winners keeps on winning.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Jack, Dude, I just love this team so much.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
I've watched more Kentucky volleyball this year, and I always,
you know, watched the Big Top five, Top ten, Big
SEC rivals. You know, I love the sport of volleyball
in general. But man, just just this team. There's just
they're so likable either, there's you know, so much hard
and just the way Craig built the schedule of just
(04:36):
Doozy after Doozy after Doozy. It's just so fun to
just know that you're going to every time you turn
on the TV it's gonna be some top ten matchup,
some name brand opponent Like this is just so much
fun and for them to dominate down the stretch the
way they did against Louisville. That was that was just
a clinic. I mean, you get get down behind, it's ugly,
(04:58):
it's it's you know, things aren't going your way. You're
in in a you know, hostile road environment. And then man,
you get down two to one and then just everything
starts clicking for you and you just put on a
show down the stretch and send all those card home
card fans home upset and sad. And that's exactly what
your job is to do when you go on the road,
(05:19):
is to send that the home fans uh, sad and
lonely on the drive home. So we did our job
and we lived to tell the tale afterwards. So shout
out Craig. Craig Skinner in that group. Man, I love
watching them play.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
And Larry Jack is absolutely right put together the schedule
you did.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I mean, I know football, everybody knows that the SEC's
every every game, Like even Vandy right down was looking
really really good in football. But uh, Craig Skinner, this
team is going to be battle tested the entire year.
So even once you get to tournament time, there's nothing
going you know, just going to shake them because they've
been playing a tournament schedule all year long. Larry Vaught,
(06:01):
are you surprised at the outcome? I know we expect them,
you know, to be in the top of the country
and possibly try to get number two. But like I said,
every time you turn around, they're playing a top team,
top team in the country, top ten team in the country.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
No, there's still plenty of room on the vandwagon.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Just jump off.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
I mean, this team has won eight straight SEC championships,
got a national title just a few years ago, went
to the Elite eight last year. Remember I told you
when it started, I thought this the most depth he's
ever had, and that was definitely a team to go
in the national title. And they are just playing fantastic
and to get that win at Louisville when Cassie O'Brien
(06:42):
goes down after three sets with the leg injury, I mean,
they've been like taking Emma Grom out and your big
match and all of a sudden you don't have Emma.
That's not good. But Avas Sarafa came in and was sensational.
Jordan Daly came off the bench and was really good,
and I think our favorite reserve Molly Bratzowitz.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
She just continues to.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Amaze me with her overall play and energy that she's
given to this team. She's got a much bigger role
than I think I thought she might have when she
transferred in. But I think that this shows the power
Sunday Morning sports Talk kill that's inspired her. I'm sure
to what she is doing. But now this team is
fun to watch, and all the Crags teams are that way,
(07:24):
and this schedule probably has maybe one more Top ten
team than what they would normally play at this time
of year. But he always does that. I mean, he
always loads that schedule up, and that's what makes them
good at the end of the year. It's also what
makes it hard sometimes for them to be able to
host the Sweet sixteen games because they do take a
few bumps along the way and that knocks them out
(07:46):
of that one of those top four seeds to get
a chance to host. But right now they're back in
position that if they can take care of business in
the sec they by putting the solf, that win at
Louswell could very well put them in a position where
they could hope a Sweet sixteen, and that would really
be huge forms that have to go on the road
that round.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
How much uh, how much does Craig have power does
he have in the making the schedule?
Speaker 6 (08:12):
A lot of those stands are what's.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
That a thousand percent?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Really so he can hand pick his schedule, Like I
thought a lot of that was like TV deals and
whatever else. But I guess we are one of the
top brands in volleyball. So if you if you agree
with if the other team agrees to for a match
with us, then I guess they have to take it.
But I thought I didn't know that even football, that
the coaches had that much. I thought they were like
(08:38):
TV rights and all that stuff as far as football
is concerned. I didn't know that volleyball had the same
all right. I didn't know volleyball had all time to be.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
With the coaches.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Some of those matches are made for TV, and if
Craig didn't want to, he could turn them down. But
he's not gonna turn him down. I mean, if anybody
wants to play him, he's he's gonna sign up and
go and go play.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
That's just the way he's all he's.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Been And I think that's one thing it helps him
in recruiting as players know when they come here they're
going to get to do this. And now this year,
where they've already been on Fox, they've been on ABC,
they've been on the ESPN already. That kind of exposure
has helped it even more in recruiting and boat.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
We don't cover a lot of volleyball, but we did
cover volleyball last week. And is that due to the
attraction of the schedule now, but we did have a
bye week in football, so the airways have to be
filled or is that just the popularity of UK volleyball both.
Speaker 8 (09:38):
I think it's the popularity of UK volleyball. We've been
doing volleyball for a few years now, and granted it's
not ten games, it's not eleven games, not fifteen, but
I think we've been averaging five or six. And I
was telling Larry off the air that if this season
continues to be a success as it is, maybe we
(10:00):
get some postseason volleyball matches on the air. Now, it's
gonna be a little tough in November because we're going
to be in crossover season between football and basketball. But
if we can make Kentucky men's basketball, women's basketball, and
baseball work at the same time in March. Then certainly
we can make volleyball work too. So I hope it happens.
I really do, because there is a huge interest in
(10:24):
Kentucky volleyball right now. And how many times do we
hear John Short talking about UK volleyball calling got or
how many interviews are you hearing about UK volleyball and
really being pushed into the forefront of UK athletics. I
think it's awesome.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
I really do.
Speaker 8 (10:39):
So hopefully it happens we get more on WLAP for everybody.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
And that is interesting coming from a producer, because the
more time we have to or not have to, the
more time we get to spend on air with UK
Athletics makes the producers.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Have to spend more time in the studios.
Speaker 8 (10:54):
Guess where I was at yesterday.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
I'm going to assume you're win the studio all day.
Speaker 8 (11:00):
Guess where I was last Sunday.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I know where you were in the morning. I don't
know where you were at after twelve o'clock.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
I was here.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
See did you not?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Did you not read the description when you signed up
for that job.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
I wouldn't expect to see you Jeff Ruby's.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Or anything or Tony's or anything, or at a country
Boy because country Boy opened up what like a month ago,
two months ago, the one in Lexington.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Country Boy Brewery.
Speaker 8 (11:30):
I'm fine right here. You know, I'm blessed and just
lucky to have a part time job that I really
enjoy and.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I'm blessed to have you and I appreciate having it.
I really enjoy you and UK basketball Big Blue Madness
is right around the corner. That is Bo Robinson, Larry
Vaught and Jack Pilgrim and I will continue this conversation
on the other side of the break. You were listening
to Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk on news Radio
six thirty WLAP.
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Jack Pilgrim, there's been we did not play the Kentucky Wildcats,
did not play football yesterday, and there was a lot
of football going on. There's a lot of football football.
I got to watch South Carolina a little bit. Sellers
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is back because that's what we play this week. We
also played them in volleyball on Wednesday, but we have
them here, but we have to go down to Columbia
Saturday to play them in football, and South Carolina looked
a little vulnerable. Vanderbilt did score seventy points, so I'm
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not sure. And what I said before, we went to
break right around the corner from basketball season starting Big
Blue Madness is the eleventh of October, so that is
right around the corner. But until basketball officially kicks off,
I don't know if we've actually turned the corner, Jack Pillgrim.
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So have you watched South Carolina or the rest of
the sec or is it time to turn the.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Page to basketball?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Or some of the things you saw yesterday or heard
or watched a little bit later convince you that you know,
I want to see how this football season turns out,
and you're not going to turn the page in basketball
because I know the fan our listeners are already going
to jump on your head because they call you a
basketball guy.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
No, that's fair, and I'll take pride in enjoying as
the winningest tradition in college basketball history. I take no, No,
don't take that personally.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
I kept a close eye on everything that unfolded yesterday,
and you know, some surprising results, unexpected results. The you know,
Illinois getting absolute curb stomped by Indiana as a top ten,
top top twenty matchup, but top ten team in Illinois
getting destroyed.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
That was fascinating, but a lot of expected.
Speaker 7 (14:25):
You know, Florida stinks out loud, Miami took them, you know,
took them to the woodshed a little bit.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
That was that was expected there.
Speaker 7 (14:33):
Very not pleased with Billy Napier down down in Old Gainesville,
you know, Ole miss. I think that the John Sumral Bowl.
I think Kentucky fans had that two lane game, very
close eye on that one to see how competitive it
ended up being, you know, with the with the John
Somemmral dynamic, and that ended up being a forty five
ten absolute blowout. So maybe not the result that fans
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or if you're a Kentucky fan wanting John summrall, I
think an upset there would have you know, probably catapulted
him into the Oh well, Florida has to fire Billy
Napier so that, you know, John summerl is now the
all in favorite there. So maybe that works in Kentucky
fans favor for them to not pull off that big upset.
But those two teams kind of looked exactly where they
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were as a top fifteen SEC opponent and a you know,
no non power for team, so.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
A lot of expected results.
Speaker 7 (15:25):
Andy putting up seventy against Georgia State doesn't do anything
for me. But yeah, in the Missouri South Carolina game,
I think scares me quite a bit because now South
Carolina is kind of playing that, hey.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
We're now fighting for bowl eligibility.
Speaker 7 (15:41):
We're went into the year thinking that we were a
legitimate playoff contender. Now we're fighting to stay alive as
a bowl team. So they're going to be coming into
that next week matchup unbelievably hungry and wanting them to
make a statement there.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
So kind of almost wish that they.
Speaker 7 (15:59):
Pulled that went off to let them go into that
game on a high and we could kind of rip
the rug out from underneath them.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
But you know, pretty crazy day out there in the SEC.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Jack, Do you know how disrespectful that is when you
say that every week about someone being upset coming in
to play us?
Speaker 6 (16:18):
Can you can? You can?
Speaker 7 (16:20):
For old Miss? We spent a why Old Miss was
gonna be better, They're gonna be worse because of how
much roster turned over that and the results still ended
up being what we all thought it would be. The
Old Miss beat us? Or do we beat ourselves?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
They so hold on if I for years, whenever you
and I talked off the air on it, do I
do you think winning is enough for me?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Like?
Speaker 6 (16:46):
Oh the game?
Speaker 3 (16:47):
No?
Speaker 6 (16:47):
I mean no, winning is not enough.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
You want the opponent to know, you know what, damn
I didn't have a chance, Like you want them to
know that they lost. You don't want them to walk
away thinking you got lucky. If someone says that to you,
that's district spectful. Jack, and I just like I said,
everybody comes in here with a chip on their shoulder,
and you don't like chips on people's shoulders.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
Uh, But I just I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
So we never are we We can never get any
respect as a football team because every time we beat
somebody or or someone loses to another team, then they
have to play us after. We need to be on
the watch out right. But the only only point I
will give you that coming off of bye week stoops,
stoops this. So I would give you that. But the
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way you made it sound is if we better look
out because South Carolina's gonna be angry.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
That's not My counter is.
Speaker 7 (17:38):
Had South Carolina dominated and kind of I think it
would have been easy for them to get high off
of that ranked win getting back, you know, they're probably
ranked after that going into next week, having them kind
of overlooking Kentucky and we can play our play our
game like I think it would have worked out our
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favor in that way. But now there is a level
of urgency for South Carolina again, a team that had
legitimate chance, not championship, but legitimate college football playoff aspirations
going into the season.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
They are now two and two, looking two and three.
Speaker 7 (18:17):
Down the barrel and saying we got to figure this
out or or the wheels are going to fall off
here here in Colombia.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
What are we going to do about it? Like it
just I would have preferred that they have a reason.
Speaker 7 (18:30):
To overlook us, but now it's physically impossible for them
to overlook us. Not saying that it's going to you know,
impact anything, but of the two scenarios, I think you
would probably agree that you would rather your opponent be
overlooking you so you can come in with an edge.
You can come in and looking to make your own
statement instead of having it kind of you know, hammer
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versus the nail dynamic. I'm not saying anything controversial, it's
but also on top of the bye week blues that
we constantly deal with with with stoops as well, well,
this is this kind of a perfect storm. You would
prefer it not be coming off a byweight, and you
would rather be them feeling cough over confident going into
the smashup.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Larry Valp, We're gonna get to you when we come
back from break because South Carolina gave up with a
lot of rushing yards to eighty five, and that's one
thing we can do.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
Run the ball.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Because I ain't gonna say big blue water, I'm gonna
use that term for a while, but we're gonna continue
this conversation when we come back. You're listening to Stockyards
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Speaker 2 (19:41):
Welcome back Stockyards Bank Sunday Morning Sports Talk. I'm Anthony White,
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Before we went to break, Jack Pigrim was showing this
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pity that South Carolina lost to Missouri yesterday and gave
up to two hundred and eighty five yards. Russian Missouri
ran the ball, however, wherever, whenever they wanted to, and
that is a strong suit of our game. Now, sellers
in the South Carolina game, Cocks did throw for three
hundred yards, So.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
There's that to be concerned about.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
And people are concerned about Brad White's defense, how soft
our defensive backs have been playing recently, So there's a
little bit concern. But I got a lot of respect,
and I got a lot of faith in our family.
I mean, I've got in our team. But so hlarrybod
I do want to know how do you feel about
going to the South Carolina game? But I also want
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to get to at some point after the discussion that
Jack Pigrim did bring up Lane Kiffins, Old Miss Rebels
played against the fighting John Somemrrol's of Tulane and they looked, well,
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I'm not gonna say they look as bad as we did.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
The scoreboard did.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
So if you didn't watch the game, you took the scoreboard,
then the team that John Somerral has down there probably
is not as good or as not put together as
well as the one that Mark Steut's put up here,
because the scoreboard, if you you know, if you do
football math, Kentucky Wildcats played a lot better against Old
Miss than Tulane. And John Somerral, those guys played against
Old Miss. So you could put the fan base and
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put that the rest or, and Jack eloquently put him.
Any of those questions you have about John Somerrals.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
Is next up.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Okay, he couldn't beat Old Miss. Now, mind you, we
didn't beat Old Miss either this year. We did beat
him last year, and as I told Jack Pilgrim, we
did have an opportunity to beat him this year, we
just Keystone copped it up. We just bumbled, We just
bumbled it. I don't think John Somerral had a chance
of winning that game period, at any point. So if
you want John somewhere else, which he's a former player
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like myself, so I respect him and I love him.
But if you guys want to scrap this this year's
or you want to scrap this what we have going
on with Mark Stoops And if you think that's the answer,
then if you want to keep football math and keep
football math. And but we do have South Carolina coming
up this weekend. Larry Vaught and South Carolina looked extremely
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vulnerable against Missouri. But maybe Missouri is a lot better
than the Kentucky Wildcats.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Well, first, let me say, you surely don't think they've
got the same resources as Tulane they have at Kentucky,
do you?
Speaker 6 (22:43):
So let me let me let me say this to you,
Larry Vaught.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
And someone told me last week someone thought it was
interesting our back and forth.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
I do. I apologized to you. I was a little
rough on you last week.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
I was.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
You're my mom's age, so I should respect you a
lot more than I did last week, but I was
upset because I don't like our fan base not So
let's get back to what you're saying.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
Do we have the resources. Here's the thing, Larry Va.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
We have the resources we have now because of what
Mark Stoops has done, and every and and maybe John
somewhere all can bring in the same guys we're bringing
in and coach them. The one thing you, you and
the fan base may not be giving, uh Mark Stoops
credit for everything he's doing now has never been done here.
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So you may be right. Maybe John somemer all can
up and maybe he can raise the stakes. He can
maybe he can raise the raise the bar we are saying.
This guy has raised the bar. So you know we've
even under even under Brooks, we had to bring three stars,
two stars and three stars and try to create them
into something and he did a pretty good job of that.
But he also knew the covers were bearing before he
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left the program. The joker I'm saying Mark Stoops is
every year he's he's fighting Clawn.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
Okay, maybe his end game.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Is not leaves a lot to be desired as far
as some decision making coming off by weeks going into
halves coming out of half.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
Maybe those things aren't.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
But when you're saying, you're rolling the dice to say that, well,
if John Somerral had the same resources, tomort s soupers
And I'm not gonna argue that.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
I'm not going to be against it, but.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Just to act, to be on faceback, act like Kentucky
is like Florida where we've won national championships and we
expected coach to bring us back there, No, he we
are swimming in uncharted territory.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
You can't have it both ways, Anthony, What do you
mean I'm saying all I'm saying you can't. How do
you know what John Somemrall might do if he had
those resources. I'm just saying the fact that Mississippi b
Tulane shouldn't be a surprise because they've got far more
resources than what Tulane would have. That's all I'm saying there.
Maybe John Sunrall will do this, but he doesn't have
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equal resources. So I think you got to take that
in consideration right now. And don't forget Mark Soops did
go four and eight last year. They did regress back,
so it's six to one.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Half does the other.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
But again talking about South Carolina. Yeah, it was encouraging
to see that Missouri just ran the ball and will
against South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Yes, it was.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
Concerning to see the South Carolina threw the ball so
well on the road and all like that. So I
must stay in the i' must say in the Jack
Pilgrim corner. You still got to show me to convince me.
And I don't think that's disrespect. It's just from what
we've seen the last year and a half. Let's go
to South Carolina and win the game, and then we'll
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get on that wagon. But until you see them do it,
I think we still got to wait and just see
what's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
One And this is where I staid, even as a
former player and a fan of the University of Kentucky
football team, this whole thing about you all saying, well.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
Well, we'll wait and see and when it looks good. No,
you don't get to jump on the bandwagon.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
You do not get to jump on the bandwagon once
everything starts going now. And and the other part I
have a problem with is you said that we do
you honestly, Larry Vaut, Do you honestly think we regressed
or do you think we stumbled backwards last year? Do
you think we regressed like that is our trending direction?
Or you know you you took a hit in the
chin and you and you got you got a little woozy,
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got a little dage, stumbled.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Four and eight.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
My mind is regressing.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
So that's the direction. Regressing, mean that is the direction
you're going? Or is it just a minor setting back
last year?
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Yes, huh, that's a direction. That's the direction they went
last year.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yes, Jack Pilgrim, Do you do you honestly think this team?
So if so, if you think we're for and that
we're gonna go four and eight again, even we'll save
in five and seven.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
Right, So that was a that was just a setback
last year or not?
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Well, you just said they regressed last year. Now let's
see it.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
You said that, I said they took a step back,
they stumbled.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Okay, well, now let's see. I think it's take a
step forward.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
But I haven't seen a step forward yet this year
with the record they've got, They've beat two teams they
were favored to beat, they lost to the one team
that they weren't favored to beat, and they're not going
to be favored to win many more games going forward.
So to me, they've not taken a step forward yet.
They still got chances to but they've not done it yet.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
So I will I will ask you this. We did lose,
Ohle Miss. I'm gonna give you that. That's the game
I thought we would win. I think that's a game
we could have said.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
It's a fact. That's how you're not giving us that
that's a fact.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
No, No, I'm saying, if he cleans up some of
the coaching decisions, right, if we clean up some of
the coaching decisions against Old Miss, maybe have a different
person in a quarterback, do you think the outcome is different?
Speaker 6 (27:47):
And I'm not trying that, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Doing it if and then statements to try to but
I'm saying, are though, if those things are correctable and
Old Miss is the top team, if we fix those things,
are those things fixable, which means we could possibly be
better down the road. That's where I'm coming from. We
lost to All Miss team. Everybody expected us to lose.
I did not expect us to lose a game. We
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made some bone We made a lot of boneheaded decisions
which I think could be corrected. If we correct those
things going down the road, do we have an opportunity
to win more games if we get those things corrected. Now,
I do understand you and Jack and our fan base
don't have faith and the fact that Stoops can clean
up some of his coaching antics and in game decisions.
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I'm just like you want to wait and see how
the season's going to end. I'm kind of I guess
I got a little bit more faith just because his
last name is Stoops and I know what that family
name brings that he can get those things together, and
I think if it does, the season looks a whole
lot brighter.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Well, yeah, if they got a quarterback who we think
can move the ball now, and if they don't make
this sideline mistakes, yeah, I could get But again that's
that oh if and in game we still got to
see it. We still got to see it happen. But
I want you to get to so I want you
to talk. Let Jack talk about that Pat Kelsey Mark
Pope fight. I know it's not football for you, but
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that's still one of the big things I want to
hear about from Jack.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Well, hold on, we will talk about that, but let's
get to the phone lines really quickly and see what
our buddy John Short has to say. Good morning, John Short.
What do you got for us before we turn over
to basketball?
Speaker 9 (29:31):
Let me know, I say great when we had or
little in volleyball green when we had were University of
Washington in volleyball team.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
We have a good volleyball team. And I don't think
we beat Louisville. I think last time we beat Louisville
I might have been. I may have been in my thirties,
Jack John Short, because a.
Speaker 9 (29:51):
Little vie is four years in a row until now.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
Really it's only been four years.
Speaker 9 (29:56):
Yeah, yep, it did.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
It's been since twenty nineteen season. But it had only
been four matches.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Ah, I got you. So I was not it in
my thirties. I was in my forties. I was pretty old.
Speaker 9 (30:11):
Yeah, no contents. So that was a gym game of
the game. And then Henry Will we lost in the soccer.
Every wonted soccer. Who do you play today? In soccer?
Speaker 6 (30:23):
We play hold on, I should have had that.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
That is my.
Speaker 6 (30:30):
Soccer. We have Missouri women's soccer.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
We have.
Speaker 9 (30:36):
We'll be the game of Tim Biggins.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
And you can watch it on the SEC plus that's
one of those extra.
Speaker 9 (30:45):
Okay, and we're gonna be saxs andied by Tim Biggins
is coming Saturday. It'll be a great game. Is Conning
Bowley's real name? Is that his real name?
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Cutter Bowley?
Speaker 9 (30:56):
Yeah? Yes, sir, oh, I thought it might be an
it's what's the real name? But I know I didn't
know it's real names. Our roball game, Wayne, take a
second on radio?
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Bo Robinson a South Carolina seven pm gonna be on
the radio. But if not, you can catch on the
sect SEC network. But Bo's not going to be on
the radio. Uh, go back. I was dealing with the
South Carolina. South Carolina volleyball gonna be on Wednesday?
Speaker 6 (31:27):
Is it going to be on the radio.
Speaker 8 (31:29):
No, I don't know. Let me check on that. It's
not on my schedule. So if it's not on my schedule,
then I don't think we're doing it.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
No, it doesn't sound like it doesn't. It doesn't say
it online, but.
Speaker 8 (31:40):
Things can change. I could always get that text message
to say, hey, are you available for volleyball on Wednesday night?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
And I'll say yes, I am played Georgia Saturday in
seven pm.
Speaker 6 (31:54):
You'd have to come and you have to be in
the house.
Speaker 9 (31:59):
It's something winning championship. This year our FILO four will
be Kentucky, Vandonbilt, George and Alabama and volleyball.
Speaker 6 (32:07):
I don't know anything about Vanderbilt volleyball.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
I'm gonna give you the benefit of the dollar on that,
John Shore, You're very optimistic, man, Yeah, because.
Speaker 9 (32:15):
I always love to stick with the South East of conference.
No other conference in the.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
California sport Indeed, John Short, we appreciate your call. I'm
gonna Larry Vatda'm gonna go to break first. Then we're
gonna come back and find out if Mark Pope is
getting into skirmishes and scuffles. We will discuss that when
we come back. You are listening to Stockyards Bank Sunday
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I couldn't even I can't even get the intro out
man Jack Pilgrim before we went to break and obviously
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I think the intro music kind of introduces the topic.
There's so many things. Well, this is gonna I think
this is gonna spill over to the next hour. Mark
Bo Pat Kelsey meeting at the recruise house at midnight
about to throw them hands. Jack Pilger, please please clear
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some of this up for Larry and I.
Speaker 7 (33:39):
Yeah, I don't know that something happened, and I know
it certainly something happened, but I think it's become a
game of a bad game of telephone ever since where
it I think the reality of it. He doesn't create
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for a drama filled story the way that it's become
with the two squaring up outside of a teenage kid's
apartment at midnight.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Like it sounds good to.
Speaker 7 (34:14):
Say that the UK and U of L coaches are
you know, about to fight, But I think the truth
is a little bit closer to Hey, it was a
miscommunication on time. Mark Pope was supposed to arrive at
midnight because that was right when the recruiting period started.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
He got there a couple of minutes late.
Speaker 7 (34:36):
Pat Kelsey was already there waiting for his turn after
Mark Pope wrapped up, so he said, well, if Mark
Pope isn't there, then I'm gonna step in. I'm not
gonna wait for somebody else. I'm gonna go take advantage
of my time. Mark Pope arrives, says, hey, little man,
why what do you think you're doing here? Why are
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you cutting the line? Well, you didn't show up up
on time, so tough, and that leads to a, well,
I think you cut in front of the line and
broke the rules by getting there before midnight. Well, are
you accusing me of cheating? I would never do such
a thing, And it leads to that kind of don't
make this something that doesn't need to be kind of
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verbal spat not necessarily a hey, we're getting out the
boxing gloves and going a couple rounds. So yeah, something
in a verbal altercation did happen. It did happen in
the hour shortly minutes, shortly after midnight for a kid
that neither of those programs are going to get anyway,
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and it just reeks of it, reeks of the kid's side,
the kid's camp kind of gloating like we're not going
to either of these schools and we had them fighting
over fighting over us at midnight. Isn't that funny?
Speaker 3 (35:53):
You know?
Speaker 7 (35:54):
I think it's just kind of water under the bridge
at this point. I think it was a big nothing
burger that blew up into something big because it got
unfortunately leaked in the day's days leading up to the
kid's commitment. So tough, tough look on the kid to
leak that or whoever close to take and.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
He decided to leak that right now.
Speaker 7 (36:13):
But yeah, we definitely got some some rivalry juices going
a little bit, you know, too much nice nice guy
stuff between the two, too much love.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Like I'm glad that we have.
Speaker 7 (36:26):
A you know, it's not a hate filled rivalry between
the two, but we need some type of juice, We
need some type of something to get after. So this
if maybe this pours a little bit of the gasoline
on the fire and they start going at it a
little bit more.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
But it definitely almost.
Speaker 7 (36:43):
Didn't come to blows the way it was initially rumored
and reported.
Speaker 8 (36:47):
He at least the timing was pretty good with Kentucky
football having to off weekend and gave us some to
talk about over the last couple of days.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
And Jack, where where does a kids sit in this?
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Guys, guys come on now like being like, what does
the kids sit in this?
Speaker 6 (37:06):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (37:08):
And maybe you know, maybe you don't know, maybe you
have a you know, take a guess where does the
kids sit in this? Whole idea that hey, look like
you said this is this is foolish. You guys both
look like fools. Or is it like, hey, this is
interesting that they're fighting over me.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (37:26):
The rumor is that Tay Kenny didn't didn't love seeing
two grown men, well grown relatively speaking with Pat Kelsey,
but two adult males fighting over him outside of an
apartment building in Atlanta, Georgia.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
I don't think that was, you know.
Speaker 7 (37:45):
Preferred on their side, But I do kind of have
a little, small, little theory here because Mark Polton had
to have known that Kentucky was out of the running already,
like they had been kind of pulling out of the
race and pivot toward other recruits at this stage anyway,
And it was all kind of fishy to begin with
that he decided to show up to a kid that
(38:08):
he knew he wasn't going to get at midnight. So
maybe it was intentional maybe he intentionally blew this up
so Pat Kelsey didn't get him either and sent them elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Well that is Jack Pilgrim and there was no fisticuffs thrones,
so don't worry. No one was harmed in the discussion
of our recruiting process.
Speaker 6 (38:26):
We will be back after this.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
You're listening to Stockyards, Bank, Sunday Wore, and Sports Talk
on news Radio six thirty w LAP.
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