May 14, 2024 • 45 mins
Ghosts, spirits, shadow people...do you believe? We have special guest Michael Brown of San Diego Ghost Tours on this episode. He's seen it all and he tells us what he's experienced since we last talked to him.
We all took a field trip to a local park, which was built over an old cemetery. The headstones were moved back in the day, but not the bodies! We show you what we witnessed that night. He also tells Laura something that both validates and freaks her out at the same time.
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We all took a field trip to a local park, which was built over an old cemetery. The headstones were moved back in the day, but not the bodies! We show you what we witnessed that night. He also tells Laura something that both validates and freaks her out at the same time.
This is a good one so get comfortable and grab a snack because you're in for a ride.
Subscribe, comment, share, follow...all those things.
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Love your podcast!
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Hello, everybody, Welcome to LauraKane after Dark. I'm so happy you're
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though, I'm okay with that.There's something well, never mind, okay,
we need to pump up the party, which is happening May twenty fourth.
It's Brian's two year anniversary party thathappens to be on my birthday,
so we're making it double shot.I like how you prased it this time.
Thank you. It's at Vahas Resortand Casino and I went there to
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scope out the scene. I thinkit was this weekend or maybe last week
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we had Robert Bartko. He's thelead singer, the guy that looks
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Doors open for us it's six,So from six to seven we'll have
prizes to give away and some funthings. Jay has already said he has
some cash for us to give away, perfect at a casino, right,
yes, and so we'll have someprizes and then the doors officially open at
seven for everybody else in the showstarts at eight. It's outside Via House
the park at VA House, whichis kind of an outdoor area, So
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make sure you bring you jackets ifyou do come, and it's going to
be even if you want to come, just hang out with us before the
show. That would be really funtoo, and then go gamble with me
during the show. We're gonna playsome blackjack. Oh. I watched a
really good slot machine YouTube video todayabout how to build up and win the
jackpot on a slot machine. Yeah, the guy actually made a lot of
(03:13):
sense. I bet he did,that's why, And so I'm going to
try this method next time I go. So anyway, which will be May
twenty fourth. Who has the Lucasslots in town. They all claimed that
just sounds I think that's We alsohave Michael Brown coming up on the show
with San Diego Ghost Tours excited.We did a little field trip with him
(03:37):
the other night to Pioneer Park andboy was it cool. Cool. Yeah,
there, we have a video toshow you, we have pictures to
show you, so we'll be talkingto him. He's had some new encounters
since we I think he was onwith this like a year and a half
ago, or we were down atthe Cosmopolitan doing a live show. We
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I know, I didn't know theoriginal hard Rock is in London. That
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Okay, we got on this topicof shredding. Okay, birth certificates,
social Security cards. We're asking youshouldn't do, by the way, which
you shouldn't do, but you shouldknow where they are. And I'm telling
them I don't know. I've neverI haven't seen my Social Security card in
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like twenty five years. My birthcertificate. I have no idea my kid's
birth certificates. I don't know.I don't even know. I lost my
dad's. I had a little bagof his ashes. I don't know where
it is. He died twenty fiveyears ago. Don't nowhere. Luckily,
my mom still has some, soat least I can grab some of maybe
me ring out of it. Gorestock your right I lost. Now get
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this my friend in nineteen eighty nine, I think went to Germany. Is
this your best friend, Stacy?Yes, Stacy, see how I remember
that? I know? Oh?Stacy's mom, though, has got it
going on. Oh, by theway, speaking of best friend's happy birthday,
Marla, Oh, Marla, that'sright, happy birthday, Yes,
yay, right after Mother's Day,Mother's Day, then her birthday? How
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cool? Okay day by the way, Oh, thank you, thank you.
I went to your mom and sistryyesterday. You did you talk to
them, meet them? That's sonice of you. And you texted me
too, I did. She broughtback for me a piece of the Berlin
Wall. Oh no, ask mewhere that is? Right now? That's
okay. You got rid of us, you lost a symbol of fascism.
(09:37):
So I guess that's okay. Butthat's like, that's like something that would
have been cool to say, Ihave a piece of the Berlin Wall.
I mean, shea, it's gone. It's probably under your bed. All
my kid's teeth gone. That's fine. I don't know where mine are my
kids. I mean, some peoplemake necklaces out of them house. Yeah,
that would be the creepy. Ifyou ever ever I want to make
(09:58):
a piece of Jewlryetta, that's whatCannibal after they oh like one hundred people.
That's true, Recklas. If youever came to this set with a
necklace. I would get up andleave. Okay, you have he is
a thing with teeth, a thingI would just leave on principle. Really
it was rose. Well, don'tworry about it because I don't know where
they are. Okay, okay,So, oh, we have to open
(10:20):
something from Leo. Remember Leo whowas on the show. He's a Debbie
Gibson mega fan. Yes, andhe was the Debheads right yes, okay,
so he sent us something and hewants us to open on the show.
He was a guest host a coupleof weeks ago. I'm so excited.
I think that all he said.Don't mind the wrapping. Oh my
god. Okay, let's see.Happy twenty seventh birthday, Laura. See
(10:45):
oh that's only like fifty years off. Dear Laura Kane, wishing you the
best Mother's Day ever. I lovedbeing on the podcast. You, Eric
and producer Brian are the funniest peoplealive. Here is a gift as a
token of my sincere appreciation. Godmade Mother's Day with your birthday month because
you rule. Ah love your podcast, Love Leo Leo, you have very
nice writing, so sweet. Okay, So what did we get? What
(11:07):
did we get? I can usepaper towels later show Wow. Oh to
Eric, my god. To Lauraassigned Debbie Gibson, Oh wow, I'm
so excited. I love her.I look at her body. It's actually
really cool. It's very cool.It says. It just says love,
(11:28):
Oh my god, loving good vibesto Laura. Love and good vibes,
love XO, Debbie Gibson. That'sso cool. Thank you, Leo.
Yeah, show that's what's not soglary. To Eric, I just want
to have your baby love Debbie Gibson. No, she didn't write that.
No, Oh, I just can'tshake your love. That's what says.
I misread that. That's cute,pretty cool. That is really cool.
(11:50):
Thank you, Leo. Thank youso much. He looks great. She
looks amazing. I just want tosay, though, to all our potential
listeners, please don't send us anyother autograph things because you and I am
the person that's collecting around here onthe ship. Well, you're gonna get
something else on Thursday, apparents.I know. Well, my brain's melting.
I know, Okay. I havea gift for you, though,
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Eric. It was actually I gotthis for Javier, I mean Antonio because
sometimes he's a jerk, right,So I got him this. I got
him this hat. Wait, areyou talking about me being a jerky?
No? No, no, I'mtrying to explain something. Okay. So
he comes to me today and hegoes, hey, I saw something on
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Facebook that that is a gay thing. That this hat is like there's a
whole like series of hats and it'slike that it's a gay it's in a
gay language. It's a gay language, Like, what do you have a
language that I'm I got him thishat that says cock. I love it.
Here it's yours now. I thinkeveryone knows the gay language when you
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say when you say that word,sometimes you're saying that a guy's a right,
like you're such a really well anyway, I knew you'd love it.
Thank you. I'm gonna wear thatand my T shirt on Thursday. Yes,
your caughtcat. I can just imagineLaura's the last person walking around calling
people cocks when she doesn't like that. Well, no, I don't.
I don't normally say that because it'srude, but I say it. I
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said it to him because he's sometimesit's a jerk. It doesn't mean.
Are you sure he used it theproper VENASKI. He says that he saw
a video where some guy was explainingthat there's one hat that's a donkey that
means that you have a big one, and there's that hat like cock that
means like you take it or something. I don't know you saw something like
what manual is he reading? No, that's what I said. I'm like,
(13:41):
I don't know. That's eric.I don't think you'll know. That's
stuff beyond me. But the factthat you thought it just meant jerk is
with no other connotations is so interesting. Is it innocent? No? Well,
yes it is, because I don'tI didn't think sexually about that.
You know the other meaning the doubleentendre of that word, right a penis?
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Yes, I knew you two arefilthy? Stop? All right?
Is it really? Did you?Guys? Before we have Michael Brown on,
did you guys hear about that womanwho was found living in a grocery
store? No, but that soundsamazing. Yes, okay, Michael,
Okay, she was living in thesign of a grocery store. I have
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the story right here in Michigan,thirty four year old woman she had a
job, she had a car,she'd been living there for a year,
she had a desk, flooring,and even a houseplant. Good for her.
And that reminded me of the movieI See you, oh about frogging.
(14:43):
You know what frogging is? Oh? Yeah, we recommended that.
I forgot about that. Yeah,that was a good movie. That was
a great movie. But that's exactlywhat she is. She's a frog,
right, people actually do this wherethey and that's the movie Parasite. Remember
the movie Parasite. They were kindof frog in it. I don't remember
that movie. It's been so long. It's a good movie. It's disturbing,
but it's so good. But anyway, that's what I got. If
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you don't and all, do youwant to do a quick show biz before
we bring on? Yeah? Iknow. This is so incredibly sad.
Sam Rubin passed away, I know, and like I think three people died
this week or something. David uhDavid Samborne that there was also the guy
Core I forget his name, buthe did all the or was Ruben the
guy that did all the B movies? No, Ruben was the TV show
(15:26):
host, right, he was theentertainment reporter, the Yeah, there was
like the guy who was like kingof B movies who did all like those
crappy like not Sharknado, but Sharknado'sstyle where it's like killer Puranas and like
any like cheap movie you've seen onthe end of a blockbuster. Oh,
he was the director of them.He just died. Oh you mean,
I know who you're talking about.Name David Samborne. It was the saxophone
player. He died at seventy eightfrom cancer. But yeah, Sam Rubin
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allegedly I heard he had a massiveheart attack. Was that what it was?
He apparently wasn't feeling good the daybefore. He was feeling like kind
of sick to his stomach, thisis what somebody told me, and that
he was like feeling tired. Sohe had somebody come in and fill in
for him, and then never cameback. Never came back. And now
I'm thinking to myself, that wasjust like you just weren't feeling good that
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day. I mean, you're gonnahave a heart attack. Like that's so
scary, could happen to anyone.Apparently he is one of those people that
was a yo yo dieter. He'dbe big and then skinny and then big
and then skinny, and so I'mlike, I wonder if he was,
you know, I don't know ifhe was taking to zempic or anything.
I don't know. I don't rememberwhat he looked like. I haven't seen
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him on TV in a while.So I'm just really sad because he's very
well loved and all the celebrities lovedhim so much, so much, an
outpouring of love so to his familyand to his kids. I know he
has a sixteen year old son.I'm just really saying. He gave a
really nice tribute to him too.Roger kormanz the Drift eight years old,
ninety eight. That's a good longlife, have great movies. He did
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never seen really that you've never seen? Okay, so why don't we play
the video? Oh man, Well, we bring up our guest Michael Brown.
So good, and this is whatwe did. I think it was
Tuesday night or Wednesday night. Yeah, Pioneer Park in Mission Hills, and
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this is why we went coming downthe street. He said, I'm with
Michael Brown, San Diego ghost Hunters. Now we're at Pioneer Park. What's
up with this park? For alot of park cemeteries that are haunted.
This one I just found has alot of consistent activity. Bodies are there.
When was the last body buried nineteensixty. That's long ago. It's
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give me years to find certain placesin this park where the spirits are hovered
above, hovering above where they're buried, and we can use the k two
meters and we can ask them tomake the lights flash, stop flashing things
like that. You really like tointeract with people. There's about thirty five
hundred people. It's kind of creepythere, and actually you're working work and
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I working it. So the cemeterylasted eighteen seventy until nineteen seventy. Last
person was buried here was a ladyin nineteen sixty. So this was the
cemetery for the Church of the AmaclaConception in Old Town. They didn't want
it, didn't want to take careof it anymore, so they give it
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to the city, said it wasabandoned, so the city took the property.
The city did not want another cemetery, so they removed the headstones,
left the bodies, turned it intoa park. The void of the body
caused that depression. So whoever parksright here, parked on a whoever gets
the park here? Park right ona body? Is it? Oh weird,
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Karen? Are you freaking? Oh? I love it? Or take
a couple of steps towards me.Oh yeah, yeah yeah, and then
back up a couple of steps.You want to take a couple of steps
forward? Oh oh yeah. Butwhen you come here during the day,
you can look for the little dipsin the ground. If we're gonna use
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the meter for this young lady that'sburied right below us here with a closer,
No, watch your meters. Don'ttake your eyes off the meters.
I'm looking for the lady in thisarea. Please? Can you make the
lights flash for us? What's up? What's up? Light? Whoa,
whoa, whoa, hey, hey, this one's really active? Whoa really
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really flashing the orange? Can yougo another one? Fo? Yeah?
Do you have a fourth light going? You got the fifth one too?
Whoa hey? Hey, black Theshadow people that move around are blacker than
black, so you can see themmoving around on that back wall, going
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back and forth. Oh yeah,I heard that, heard that. Yeah,
there you go, thank you,thank you, thank you. Hi.
Hi, you have to come,you have to come in a little
bit closer because if you go toofar away, their energy can't go too
far. Oh wow, hey,hi, Hi nice crazy, Hi so
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nice this Eric love your iPhone willdo a good timed exposure. M Oh
my god, Laura, Okay,I should have done that. But your
video, because you never know we'regonna catch you know. So on the
(20:45):
show we have mister Michael Brown,San Diego Ghost Tours. Hello Michael.
So we just played the video ofwhat we went through what we went through
on Tuesday night. About Pioneer Park. Now, do you consider you've been
all over the country, I assumedkind of like looking at different haunted spots.
(21:08):
Is that park one of the mostactive, like public places you've ever
been to? Or I would saythat it is. Gettysburg is also a
very interesting place. But as faras a cemetery that has been transitioned into
a park, yeah, that isthe number one. Now what now,
the people that have relatives buried atPioneer Park, did they have to like
(21:32):
get an okay from the city,like Okay, you can just leave their
body there and we're just gonna movetheir headstone. No, the last person
that was buried there was in nineteensixty I believe, if memory serves me
correctly, that the city, ifsomeone was going to be buried there in
the cemetery pretty soon, that thecity would give them a spot at Mount
Hope Cemetery. Okay, and that'swhere they move a lot of the headstones
(21:53):
too, also. And then theheadstones that we saw in the video,
those are now kind of like amemorial. Yeah, they put those in.
They put the last of the headstonesas a memorial. And an interesting
fact is, have you ever beento Mount Hope Cemetery. No, So
the trolley runs through there. Theyput another trolley line in there. And
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then when they were digging into theside of the hill to widen to put
another row of tracks, they founda bunch of the headstones that they kind
of stored there that they totally forgotabout it because the grass had grown over
them. So they found where abunch of the uh first batches of stones
were placed. Oh my god,not bodies, just stones, just as
(22:37):
stones. Yeah. But whoa.Okay, So please explain to our viewers
about the meters that we were using. So the meters that we use are
the brand is called K two Ktwo Enterprises dot Com. I have found
them to be the best meter forfinding things that are pair normal, so
(23:00):
they're made to pick up a legromagneticfield or frequencies that like electricity gives off
and a magnet gives off. Butthe K two meter also finds things that
are totally unexplainable, like when thespirits touch them and things like that.
That's why they use them on alot of the ghost hunting shows because they
are really a very unique and wonderfultool in the world of ghost hunting.
(23:22):
It was really cool because we wouldwalk around it and have the green light
on the one at the very bottom, and then we'd walk over a certain
spot and then all three of ourswould go like all the way to the
red like And so that's just theyou believe or those are spirits playing around
with us or trying to speak tous or communicate with us. So I
(23:44):
think that there are there are spiritsthat hover above where they're buried. There
are some spirits that are trapped inbuildings, and some spirits that travel around.
How one becomes their other, Idon't know, but it's taking me
years to find where those four spiritsare that we went to m H and
the guy that throws the rocks.It is taking me years to find insane.
It's taken me years to find thespirits that like to interact with us
(24:08):
using the meter. Because when yougo ghost and you take a lot of
equipment and find what the spirits canmanipulate and pioneer part. They really love
to manipulate the K two meter.And it's such a giant park that that
must have taken years to like justslowly go through every inch of the grass.
But there are also divots in thegrass, insane, where the bodies
(24:33):
I guess just start to get theystart to sink. I mean, well,
the body decays and then the groundon top of it weighs and sinks
down. And you got that littledivid or that little void on the top
of the ground where the body thebody is taken up. Y oh my
gosh. Okay, So what islike Gettysburg? Like Gettysburg is an interesting
place. When I go, Istay at the Double Day in the Double
(24:56):
Day in. Oh, I'm havinga brained the Double Tree. No,
I think it's called the Double dayIn. It's a it's a house that's
a that's been turned into a bedand breakfast. Uh. It is one
of the closest lodgings to the battlefield. I don't know if I should incriminate
myself and tell things that I've done. Sure, okay, you're not supposed
(25:17):
to go in there after dark.But the the place that I was that
I stay at. Uh, ifyou go into the street right in front
of the place, you're in thestate park, so you have to be
in the parking lot. But sometimes, you know, you accidentally take a
step too far, and anyways,you can see you know, spirits hanging
out or ghosts hanging out in thein the battleground at Gettysburg, you can
(25:38):
literally just like look and see spirits. You know. A lot of times
it's a matter of being at theright place at the right time, looking
in the right direction, or it'sa numbers game and it takes a long
time to find these things. Howmany times have you been there? I've
been there one time and you didn'tmanage to see I did see one one
guy off into the into the field. Yeah, oh my god, did
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you bring your stuff with you?I did? And did did they manipulate
that or you? Just? Theonly thing that I could say that I
really got was cool at Gettysburg waswhen I was done walking around with the
digital recorder trying to catch EVPs,you know, electronic voice phenomenon. I
put the recorder in the trunk ofthe car because I still had time on
it, went to bed, andthen playing it back, you can hear
(26:21):
what sounds like gunshots. Whoa that? So that that is quite and that
is quite something that I can't explain. So that was incredible. So you
sent me a photo that we're goingto show you right now if Brian,
we can get up that photo andtell us where this was and how you
(26:42):
took it. And oh, that'sme, that's you. Yeah, that's
not a ghost, that's me.O my god. I was like,
did you see that? I waslooking. I was like, this still
is kind of like a long exposure, Like, yeah, that's what it
is. I didn't I did itpurposefully. But the other one, oh,
(27:03):
the other one. That's that's misterSeely, the ghost of mister Ceely
at the Cosmopolitan Hotel. Oh thatis it? Okay crazy? That is
like a full blown man right there. Oh yeah, he and his wife
are seen walking around at night inthe building. Like we said when we
I think we called you my friend. Yes, I called you my friend,
and I or my two friends andI we poked our head into the
(27:27):
cobs of Politan Hotel down at thebar area and the restaurant area. It
was totally closed. All the doorswere locked. There was nobody on that
little deck that porch at all.And when we rattled the door to the
bar area, somebody said, comeon in and sit down. I'm like,
Jody Goes, did you hear that. I'm like, yes, Kim,
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did you hear that? Yes?Where did that come from? It
came from inside and there was nobodyin there. So was that a ghost?
I don't think it was necessarily aghost, like we're talking about something
you can see, but it wasthe voice of a spirit talking to you
from inside the building. Yes,and that things happen in that building every
day, like what guests leave thehotel in the middle of the night because
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you see ghosts walking around in theirrooms. That's common. You can a
sound phenomenon upstairs, you know,hearing people walk around. My first experience
was during the summer of two thousandand five. I was staying outside in
the corner of the property talking tosecurity guard and this is when the building
was closed and we could hear someonewalking on the second story, verandah,
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And then we went around the backheard it again walking, and then the
security opened the gate and we wentinside. And that was my first experience,
was the sound phenomenon of someone walkingaround upstairs on that second story.
Oh my god. And then whatelse have you seen at the Cosmopolitan besides
that gentleman that was very visible inthat picture? How much time do you
have? Really? Oh my gosh, it's crazy on your tours se do
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people see things? So on thetour I leave a like when we did
the the podcast there, I leftthe door open because sometimes people hear things,
see things, or feel things andit freaks them out and they have
to run out of the building thatopen. Yeah, because things happen all
the time. And I first whenI first started to bring people in the
(29:15):
building, sometimes people would have episodes, things would happen and they would try
to run through the door. Sothat's why I always leave a door open
so people can can get Wow,you can get out of things. We
need to spend the night there,I know. So if you go on
the internet you read that people saythis is the most haunted room or that
is the most haunted room. I'vebeen there for eighteen years. All of
(29:36):
the rooms are haunted. The spiritstravel upstairs, downstairs in the courtyard on
the second story. They're all over, So it doesn't matter what room you
take. Oh whoa, What aboutthe Whaley House? What is your Have
you ever had an experience seeing aspirit there? The Waley House is where
I saw my first ghost in Octoberof nineteen ninety nine. The first ghost
that I saw was Violet Whaley.Really yeah, And what does she look
(30:00):
like? I mean, was shetransparent? Was she like? So I
saw a program they were talking aboutAmerica's most haunted houses. When the show
was over, it was the onlyone that was on the on that episode
that was in the area. SoI went down there with my then girlfriend
and I was doing wedding photography withher. So I had a good camera,
so hey, let's go take somepictures. So he went down and
(30:22):
were taking a bunch of pictures andI we're ready to leave, and I
lifted the camera up and there wasa lady on the other side of the
doorway in the front door. Shewas looking right over my shoulder. Same
heights as me and I didn't takethe picture, brought the camera down,
and then I looked back and shewas at the end of the hall,
gliding left back where the stairs are. I can only see from the waist
(30:45):
up. So it happened very quickly. But I went back the next day.
Inside the building, you paid yourfive dollars and you could walk around
in the house. And they hada lot of family photos on the walls
at that time. And I askedthe guy who that lady was, and
he told me that was why,And then that's the lady I saw the
night before, and then found outmore about how she died in the home.
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We spent the night there when Iwas with the Jeff and Er show.
My Randy and I got we gotto spend the night overnight in the
Wayley House in the parlor. Theparlor, so we were sleeping on the
floor, okay, on the floor, and we were one of the docents
there, and uh, my headwas kind of pointed toward where the courthouse
(31:29):
is, you know, a littlecourtroom area. You were in the first
room or in the second, thefirst room where that couches and the then
the the court room is like yes, that way. Anyway, I was
like kind of getting creeped out,right, So I said, Randy,
can I like scoop closer to you? And He's like, no, I
have a girlfriend. I was like, wait a minute, this is not
anything like that. I'm just scared. So I got up to move like
on the other side of him,and something pulled my leg back shut.
(31:52):
I swear to God, and Iwas like what And so it was like
two o'clock in the morning. I'mlike, peace out and I went home.
I was so scared because I mean, so doing it. But you
want to do you want to spendthe night at the college? Fine,
I didn't know that that is stillavailable. Yeah, the hotel is available.
(32:14):
Yeah, there's ten rooms. They'reall old timey eighteen hundred furniture in
the rooms. Okay, and youget your complimentary breakfast in the morning.
Oh my god, I have familyvacation family. Do you really you would
want your own? What if likea ghost was just like in the bed
(32:35):
next year? What I'm looking for? That's ideal. So, Michael,
if you look over your shoulder,I saw Okay. So Brian one day
brings in the weedy board one nightthis is for our Halloween episodes. It
was for our Halloween episode. Yes, so we had the full like we
had candles. He had candles,he had We were all dressed up and
everything, and so, long storyshort, we conjured up a spirit.
(32:58):
We think her name was Hazel.She spelled out Hazel in this character.
I mean Hester Hester Hester sorry Hesterhere. Yes, Okay, it was
not a great reading. It wasn'ta great reading. I think we got
nothing. However, is she stillhere? Flash forward like two weeks later
or I don't know how long Iwas. Really I woke up like two
(33:21):
o'clock in the morning. I washungry. My room's upstairs, so I
came downstairs. A minute. I'mgoing to tell you where she hangs out.
Why perfect do you know? Whydo you know this? Why do
you know this? Because when Iwas sitting over there, So I'm going
to tell you where she hangs out. Let me just say this. God,
(33:42):
I'm gonna go set in my car. This is awesome. Now,
it's not that you know, thisis where I saw her, So it's
not like this is where she isall the time. But she hangs out
over there. Oh my god,she was between the my couch used to
be right there. She was betweenthe patty of doors and the couch,
just standing there. See, Iwant to tell you this first, so
(34:05):
you don't tell me, and thenI say, oh, yeah, that's
where it was, So that isinsane. I don't think her name is
Hester, though I think she's probablygot a different name. Plus I've never
heard the name Hester. And alsowe were like, there's a name that's
an old timey name. Yeah,but like we it was the process of
you, guys, getting Hester wasa stretch. It wasn't there like a
Hester print or something that was anold in a famous book or something.
Yes, Now, do you consideryourself as sensitive? Then we all are,
(34:30):
okay because they make fun of mewhen I say that I'm a sensitive
because I thinks, okay, that'sokay, because I feel like I can
walk into a home or walk intoa building and go, there's something not
right here. We're all psychic andsensitive differently. Once you figure out how
you are psychic or sensitive, youcould become better at it. Okay,
So what are you the best at? For me, it's easier to see
(34:51):
them. So did you see yousaw something here when you came in or
did you just sense it her?I could sense that there was something over
there, and it's it's darkness.It's dark. She was dark. She
was dark. It was a darkfigure. It wasn't I don't know if
she's here right now. I'm notfocusing on that because I'm yeah, yeah,
(35:12):
it's she's dark. This is myfavorite corner. Now I know,
I'm going to do the rest ofthe podcast in my car, so scary,
have a good time. No,it's Brian's freaking fault for bringing in
that. Dang we and look it'sright there. I always thought that this
(35:36):
place was ghost free because I livedin a home that was all sorts are
wrong, like bad ghosts, likepolter Guy is like evil entity type of
thing. Yeah, have you everencountered that everything I found is Cowsper the
friendly ghosts? I could not saythat I personally found anything bad or negative
(35:57):
virgamonic, no evil entities or anything. Thing I found I would say is
is Casper the friendly ghost. Haveyou ever caught anything any voices on your
your recorder? Oh? Yeah,what what do they? What are things?
Do they say? They say allsorts of things, you know,
words leave, they say their namethat you that you can just hear like
you're like you're eaves dropping on aconversation. You can hear people say words
(36:20):
that you really can't make out.You know where the jail is up in
Julian? Yeah, oh yeah,that's a cute little thing. Yeah that's
haunted. That's haunted. That's bad. Yeah. Bad. The next time
you go there, if you takeyour recorder on your your phone, hopefully
the door the one door's open.Uh, ask a question and then put
your phone in and wait twenty seconds, and then ask another question, wait
(36:43):
twenty seconds, and then play itback later and see what you hear.
Oh wow, Okay, where's thejail? Is it next to the that
cemetery? That's right, No,it's on the other end. On the
other cemetery is cool. Look andit's a creepy cemetery, very much so,
very other end. Okay. Sothat is a haunted spot, the
Julian jail. So that's like atouristy thing that you want that's somewhere close.
(37:05):
You know, people live here inSan Diego, they've they've been there.
I'm sure they've seen it. Sowhen we go on San diegost tour,
you do a walking tour, whichI like because you get to really
sit and experience rather than sit ina vehicle and drive by. So like,
where do you Where are the spotsthat you take us? So there
are ten stops. So we walkstop and I tell some things that have
(37:27):
happened to me while ghost heating.We start inside the h You know this
camera makes me look fat. No, I was just thinking the same thing.
I was like, Wow, Ilook at yourself. You're supposed to
look at the camp. That's thecamera. You're supposed to be learning at
that. Yeah, but no,you're not. You're anything but fat,
Kelly. It makes me look fat. Camera adds ten pounds everybody. So
(37:47):
we start at the state Park.I do a quick little intro about me
ghost hunting and so on and soforth, and then we just walk and
I tell some things that have happenedto me. We talked a little bit
about history of old Town and thefire that happened in eighteen seventy two that
kind of was the downfall of theold Town area. Then we get to
Whaley House to talk about my firstghost, go to the cemetery, and
then we go back to the WhaleyHouse and I area Whaleyhouse area, and
(38:10):
I show you where the vortex.Oh yeah, in the street, yes,
yeah, where the unexplainable pockets ofenergy are. And once I show
you where they are and show youthe technique to be able to feel them,
you can find them anytime you wantbecause they're always there. That was
That was cool. And then howyou said that there were uh bodies that
(38:35):
went out into the street, right, Well, that's at the cemetery.
So yeah, so the cemetery isits original size. So they put the
trolley. They brought the trolley fromdowntown to Old Town. That's why the
street is curved like that for therailroad tracks to bend. So they just
moved the wall up and then asphaltedand sment it over the people in front.
Okay, so and there's little thelittle markers at SAE. Yeah,
(38:57):
little markers. Yes, I rememberthat, and I remember feeling the vortex.
But tell us, how are peoplethat are watching this or listening,
how do you find a vortex?And oh well the vortex. Finding the
vortex in Old Town was a matterof happening to turn a meter on the
meter going crazy. The first timeI got this meter, the meter was
(39:19):
going crazy. And it took mea long time to figure it out.
So now on all my tours,when I turn the meter on, if
you walk like the spokes of awheel, you can pick any place as
the middle, and you walk intothe meter stops, walk into the meter
stops, walk into the meter stops, and you can find this vortex that's
slowly moving south. And what isa vortex unexplainable pockets of energy. So
(39:42):
a lot of times when I talkabout the vortex, I reference Sodona,
Arizona, because so many people havebeen in the Sedona. They're famous for
their their five vortexes. And thevortex is there in Sedona? Are the
different are different than the one inOld Town? Also the different one in
what's the mystery spot San Jose,Santa Cruz. Now it sound as far
as Oakland. The mystery spot inSan I can't remember, but people are
(40:07):
saying it. I can. Ican hear the people at home saying it
is it. It's in California.Yeah, it's up the coast. There's
a different type of war Texas,Okay, And so some are paranormal,
some are all all unexplainable. Yeah, because I went to Sedona on my
own. One time I went ona vacation by myself and I tried to
find a vortex. I couldn't figureout what I was doing. So I'm
(40:27):
gonna I'm gonna tell you the secretfinding the vortex's and Sedona. Uh,
the internet. Look on the internet, okay, And when you go to
the hotel, ask them for thethrowaway map. They'll give you a map
that shows where the vortexes are.Well, here's a throwaway. Well,
it's just something you can throw awaywhen you're done. Oh okay, I
catch on quick, Catch on quick. The closest vortex or the easiest one
(40:52):
to get to is the airport vortex. There's limited parking that some of the
other ones you have to hike to. But and you're supposed to feel like
more energized and stuff. I didn'tfeel anything because you didn't Okay, I
didn't feel anything. The meters didn'tpick anything up. Again, different different
type, which is say, differentdifferent type of different type of vortexes.
(41:13):
But there are there are a lotof people that that do experience the the
the energy and sensation of the vortexesand Sedona. Yes, what is your
most recent experience aside from seeing hesterin the corner over there. What is
your most recent experience ghostly? Soat the Cosmo. I also offer a
ghost hunt where we use more ofthe equipment like they do on the ghost
(41:35):
sending shows on television, and Idid one last night, and the we
find something every time. Not onlydo the spirits like to talk to us
using the equipment, but we usethe connect stick figure camera and the spirits
come out, and then I showpeople how to put their hand in it.
Not only can you see it onthe screen, the spirit standing there,
but when you put your hand init, you can not only feel
it, but you can see thespirit moving which you put when you put
(41:55):
your hand in it. Whoa okayfor the cat? Oh yeah, the
ghost cat. Yes? Did wefind the cat last time? Yes?
So many things happened, it's hardto remember. Oh my god, that
was insane. Yeah, there's apicture of the ghost cat too. You
had a picture of the ghost cat. I think I remember sticking my hand
out. You could feel it walkright, It was insane. Oh my
(42:15):
gosh. Okay, So this whenyou take all your equipment and stuff,
it's a whole it's a different thanthe walking tour. Yes, because we
spend ninety percent of our time justinside the building. And how many people
do you take on that tour?Just a few? Just a few?
Okay, you have a big anniversaryright now, twenty five years. Oh
wow, I know anniversary. Andso you have a special bye two get
(42:37):
too free on any of my tours. Just call me mention the Uh there
you go. Just mention the byetwo Get too, and I'll set you
up for either tour you like togo on, the walking tour or the
ghost hunt there inside the Cosmo wherewe use more of the equipment, Oh
my gosh. Or would you takeanybody back to Pioneer Park if they wanted
to go there? That was prettycool. I know you said it,
(42:59):
it was cool for me. Idon't know. I've taken people up to
Parana Park after the tour if theyif someone was really into it and wanted
to see, yeah, I meanthe only reason I do the tour is
to share with people what I found. So if someone's really into it,
yeah, I'll drive up there andshow you. What is there some place
like aside from San Diego that you'vealways wanted to go, and somewhere that
you plan on maybe going that's hauntedthat I want to go. Yes,
(43:22):
oh yeah, I like to goto England, like the Castlecotland. Oh
yeah, some of the castles.Yeah, oh, I bet there's some
good ones in England. There's therams In. I want to go to
the Rim. That one's pretty gnarlyiOS kind of evil too. Oh not
the rams In. Yeah, thebar pub, the rams In, it's
(43:43):
a pub, Darling. That wasreally bad. Stop, I can start
doing that right now. Well,gosh, Michael, thank you so much
for joining us again. My pleasure, my pleasure. This. He is
such a good tour guide. Youdo such a good bar. You really
know your stuff, and you've beendoing it a long time now, and
it's so cool that you see thingsevery single time you go out. You
(44:05):
must just love your job. Maybeotherwise I wouldn't do it exactly, So
you do. You have a websiteSenego ghost Tours dot com www dot Senego
ghost Tours dot com. And he'sa very fit man, despite him pulling
on his shirt, despite the wordthe camera looks. You don't look you
don't look big. You look amazing, all right. So when we log
(44:29):
out, we say something, doyou remember you know I'll say it,
yes your yes, yes, Okay, So here we go. Come back
on Thursday. Eric has apparently thegreatest birthday guess that's ever I've ever received,
apparently, and then something huge forproducer Brian first two year anniversary huge,
(44:53):
Oh my god, and he's goingto be presenting it them to us
on Thursday's episode, so don't missthat. And with that, I like
to say, love your podcast,Love your podcast, Love your podcast,
and thank you Leo, thank you, Debbie Gibson, thank you, Michael,
thank you, thank you, andI love you my sweet babies.
(45:15):
Bye. Thank you guys for watching
Hello, everybody, Welcome to LauraKane after Dark. I'm so happy you're
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fake and fake? So what amI elashes and my eyelashes? No,
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we need to pump up the party, which is happening May twenty fourth.
It's Brian's two year anniversary party thathappens to be on my birthday,
so we're making it double shot.I like how you prased it this time.
Thank you. It's at Vahas Resortand Casino and I went there to
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scope out the scene. I thinkit was this weekend or maybe last week
sometime, and it's outside. Theperformance is George Michael were born? Yes,
we had Robert Bartko. He's thelead singer, the guy that looks
just like George and Michael sounds justlike George Michael, and we had him
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Doors open for us it's six,So from six to seven we'll have
prizes to give away and some funthings. Jay has already said he has
some cash for us to give away, perfect at a casino, right,
yes, and so we'll have someprizes and then the doors officially open at
seven for everybody else in the showstarts at eight. It's outside Via House
the park at VA House, whichis kind of an outdoor area, So
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make sure you bring you jackets ifyou do come, and it's going to
be even if you want to come, just hang out with us before the
show. That would be really funtoo, and then go gamble with me
during the show. We're gonna playsome blackjack. Oh. I watched a
really good slot machine YouTube video todayabout how to build up and win the
jackpot on a slot machine. Yeah, the guy actually made a lot of
(03:13):
sense. I bet he did,that's why, And so I'm going to
try this method next time I go. So anyway, which will be May
twenty fourth. Who has the Lucasslots in town. They all claimed that
just sounds I think that's We alsohave Michael Brown coming up on the show
with San Diego Ghost Tours excited.We did a little field trip with him
(03:37):
the other night to Pioneer Park andboy was it cool. Cool. Yeah,
there, we have a video toshow you, we have pictures to
show you, so we'll be talkingto him. He's had some new encounters
since we I think he was onwith this like a year and a half
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I know, I didn't know theoriginal hard Rock is in London. That
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cool. Thank you. Jay.I will wear it on my next show.
Yeah, wear it on Thursday,our next show. When we get
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Okay, we got on this topicof shredding. Okay, birth certificates,
social Security cards. We're asking youshouldn't do, by the way, which
you shouldn't do, but you shouldknow where they are. And I'm telling
them I don't know. I've neverI haven't seen my Social Security card in
(08:28):
like twenty five years. My birthcertificate. I have no idea my kid's
birth certificates. I don't know.I don't even know. I lost my
dad's. I had a little bagof his ashes. I don't know where
it is. He died twenty fiveyears ago. Don't nowhere. Luckily,
my mom still has some, soat least I can grab some of maybe
me ring out of it. Gorestock your right I lost. Now get
(08:54):
this my friend in nineteen eighty nine, I think went to Germany. Is
this your best friend, Stacy?Yes, Stacy, see how I remember
that? I know? Oh?Stacy's mom, though, has got it
going on. Oh, by theway, speaking of best friend's happy birthday,
Marla, Oh, Marla, that'sright, happy birthday, Yes,
yay, right after Mother's Day,Mother's Day, then her birthday? How
(09:16):
cool? Okay day by the way, Oh, thank you, thank you.
I went to your mom and sistryyesterday. You did you talk to
them, meet them? That's sonice of you. And you texted me
too, I did. She broughtback for me a piece of the Berlin
Wall. Oh no, ask mewhere that is? Right now? That's
okay. You got rid of us, you lost a symbol of fascism.
(09:37):
So I guess that's okay. Butthat's like, that's like something that would
have been cool to say, Ihave a piece of the Berlin Wall.
I mean, shea, it's gone. It's probably under your bed. All
my kid's teeth gone. That's fine. I don't know where mine are my
kids. I mean, some peoplemake necklaces out of them house. Yeah,
that would be the creepy. Ifyou ever ever I want to make
(09:58):
a piece of Jewlryetta, that's whatCannibal after they oh like one hundred people.
That's true, Recklas. If youever came to this set with a
necklace. I would get up andleave. Okay, you have he is
a thing with teeth, a thingI would just leave on principle. Really
it was rose. Well, don'tworry about it because I don't know where
they are. Okay, okay,So, oh, we have to open
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something from Leo. Remember Leo whowas on the show. He's a Debbie
Gibson mega fan. Yes, andhe was the Debheads right yes, okay,
so he sent us something and hewants us to open on the show.
He was a guest host a coupleof weeks ago. I'm so excited.
I think that all he said.Don't mind the wrapping. Oh my
god. Okay, let's see.Happy twenty seventh birthday, Laura. See
(10:45):
oh that's only like fifty years off. Dear Laura Kane, wishing you the
best Mother's Day ever. I lovedbeing on the podcast. You, Eric
and producer Brian are the funniest peoplealive. Here is a gift as a
token of my sincere appreciation. Godmade Mother's Day with your birthday month because
you rule. Ah love your podcast, Love Leo Leo, you have very
nice writing, so sweet. Okay, So what did we get? What
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did we get? I can usepaper towels later show Wow. Oh to
Eric, my god. To Lauraassigned Debbie Gibson, Oh wow, I'm
so excited. I love her.I look at her body. It's actually
really cool. It's very cool.It says. It just says love,
(11:28):
Oh my god, loving good vibesto Laura. Love and good vibes,
love XO, Debbie Gibson. That'sso cool. Thank you, Leo.
Yeah, show that's what's not soglary. To Eric, I just want
to have your baby love Debbie Gibson. No, she didn't write that.
No, Oh, I just can'tshake your love. That's what says.
I misread that. That's cute,pretty cool. That is really cool.
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Thank you, Leo. Thank youso much. He looks great. She
looks amazing. I just want tosay, though, to all our potential
listeners, please don't send us anyother autograph things because you and I am
the person that's collecting around here onthe ship. Well, you're gonna get
something else on Thursday, apparents.I know. Well, my brain's melting.
I know, Okay. I havea gift for you, though,
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Eric. It was actually I gotthis for Javier, I mean Antonio because
sometimes he's a jerk, right,So I got him this. I got
him this hat. Wait, areyou talking about me being a jerky?
No? No, no, I'mtrying to explain something. Okay. So
he comes to me today and hegoes, hey, I saw something on
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Facebook that that is a gay thing. That this hat is like there's a
whole like series of hats and it'slike that it's a gay it's in a
gay language. It's a gay language, Like, what do you have a
language that I'm I got him thishat that says cock. I love it.
Here it's yours now. I thinkeveryone knows the gay language when you
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say when you say that word,sometimes you're saying that a guy's a right,
like you're such a really well anyway, I knew you'd love it.
Thank you. I'm gonna wear thatand my T shirt on Thursday. Yes,
your caughtcat. I can just imagineLaura's the last person walking around calling
people cocks when she doesn't like that. Well, no, I don't.
I don't normally say that because it'srude, but I say it. I
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said it to him because he's sometimesit's a jerk. It doesn't mean.
Are you sure he used it theproper VENASKI. He says that he saw
a video where some guy was explainingthat there's one hat that's a donkey that
means that you have a big one, and there's that hat like cock that
means like you take it or something. I don't know you saw something like
what manual is he reading? No, that's what I said. I'm like,
(13:41):
I don't know. That's eric.I don't think you'll know. That's
stuff beyond me. But the factthat you thought it just meant jerk is
with no other connotations is so interesting. Is it innocent? No? Well,
yes it is, because I don'tI didn't think sexually about that.
You know the other meaning the doubleentendre of that word, right a penis?
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Yes, I knew you two arefilthy? Stop? All right?
Is it really? Did you?Guys? Before we have Michael Brown on,
did you guys hear about that womanwho was found living in a grocery
store? No, but that soundsamazing. Yes, okay, Michael,
Okay, she was living in thesign of a grocery store. I have
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the story right here in Michigan,thirty four year old woman she had a
job, she had a car,she'd been living there for a year,
she had a desk, flooring,and even a houseplant. Good for her.
And that reminded me of the movieI See you, oh about frogging.
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You know what frogging is? Oh? Yeah, we recommended that.
I forgot about that. Yeah,that was a good movie. That was
a great movie. But that's exactlywhat she is. She's a frog,
right, people actually do this wherethey and that's the movie Parasite. Remember
the movie Parasite. They were kindof frog in it. I don't remember
that movie. It's been so long. It's a good movie. It's disturbing,
but it's so good. But anyway, that's what I got. If
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you don't and all, do youwant to do a quick show biz before
we bring on? Yeah? Iknow. This is so incredibly sad.
Sam Rubin passed away, I know, and like I think three people died
this week or something. David uhDavid Samborne that there was also the guy
Core I forget his name, buthe did all the or was Ruben the
guy that did all the B movies? No, Ruben was the TV show
(15:26):
host, right, he was theentertainment reporter, the Yeah, there was
like the guy who was like kingof B movies who did all like those
crappy like not Sharknado, but Sharknado'sstyle where it's like killer Puranas and like
any like cheap movie you've seen onthe end of a blockbuster. Oh,
he was the director of them.He just died. Oh you mean,
I know who you're talking about.Name David Samborne. It was the saxophone
player. He died at seventy eightfrom cancer. But yeah, Sam Rubin
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allegedly I heard he had a massiveheart attack. Was that what it was?
He apparently wasn't feeling good the daybefore. He was feeling like kind
of sick to his stomach, thisis what somebody told me, and that
he was like feeling tired. Sohe had somebody come in and fill in
for him, and then never cameback. Never came back. And now
I'm thinking to myself, that wasjust like you just weren't feeling good that
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day. I mean, you're gonnahave a heart attack. Like that's so
scary, could happen to anyone.Apparently he is one of those people that
was a yo yo dieter. He'dbe big and then skinny and then big
and then skinny, and so I'mlike, I wonder if he was,
you know, I don't know ifhe was taking to zempic or anything.
I don't know. I don't rememberwhat he looked like. I haven't seen
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him on TV in a while.So I'm just really sad because he's very
well loved and all the celebrities lovedhim so much, so much, an
outpouring of love so to his familyand to his kids. I know he
has a sixteen year old son.I'm just really saying. He gave a
really nice tribute to him too.Roger kormanz the Drift eight years old,
ninety eight. That's a good longlife, have great movies. He did
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never seen really that you've never seen? Okay, so why don't we play
the video? Oh man, Well, we bring up our guest Michael Brown.
So good, and this is whatwe did. I think it was
Tuesday night or Wednesday night. Yeah, Pioneer Park in Mission Hills, and
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this is why we went coming downthe street. He said, I'm with
Michael Brown, San Diego ghost Hunters. Now we're at Pioneer Park. What's
up with this park? For alot of park cemeteries that are haunted.
This one I just found has alot of consistent activity. Bodies are there.
When was the last body buried nineteensixty. That's long ago. It's
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give me years to find certain placesin this park where the spirits are hovered
above, hovering above where they're buried, and we can use the k two
meters and we can ask them tomake the lights flash, stop flashing things
like that. You really like tointeract with people. There's about thirty five
hundred people. It's kind of creepythere, and actually you're working work and
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I working it. So the cemeterylasted eighteen seventy until nineteen seventy. Last
person was buried here was a ladyin nineteen sixty. So this was the
cemetery for the Church of the AmaclaConception in Old Town. They didn't want
it, didn't want to take careof it anymore, so they give it
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to the city, said it wasabandoned, so the city took the property.
The city did not want another cemetery, so they removed the headstones,
left the bodies, turned it intoa park. The void of the body
caused that depression. So whoever parksright here, parked on a whoever gets
the park here? Park right ona body? Is it? Oh weird,
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Karen? Are you freaking? Oh? I love it? Or take
a couple of steps towards me.Oh yeah, yeah yeah, and then
back up a couple of steps.You want to take a couple of steps
forward? Oh oh yeah. Butwhen you come here during the day,
you can look for the little dipsin the ground. If we're gonna use
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the meter for this young lady that'sburied right below us here with a closer,
No, watch your meters. Don'ttake your eyes off the meters.
I'm looking for the lady in thisarea. Please? Can you make the
lights flash for us? What's up? What's up? Light? Whoa,
whoa, whoa, hey, hey, this one's really active? Whoa really
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really flashing the orange? Can yougo another one? Fo? Yeah?
Do you have a fourth light going? You got the fifth one too?
Whoa hey? Hey, black Theshadow people that move around are blacker than
black, so you can see themmoving around on that back wall, going
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back and forth. Oh yeah,I heard that, heard that. Yeah,
there you go, thank you,thank you, thank you. Hi.
Hi, you have to come,you have to come in a little
bit closer because if you go toofar away, their energy can't go too
far. Oh wow, hey,hi, Hi nice crazy, Hi so
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nice this Eric love your iPhone willdo a good timed exposure. M Oh
my god, Laura, Okay,I should have done that. But your
video, because you never know we'regonna catch you know. So on the
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show we have mister Michael Brown,San Diego Ghost Tours. Hello Michael.
So we just played the video ofwhat we went through what we went through
on Tuesday night. About Pioneer Park. Now, do you consider you've been
all over the country, I assumedkind of like looking at different haunted spots.
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Is that park one of the mostactive, like public places you've ever
been to? Or I would saythat it is. Gettysburg is also a
very interesting place. But as faras a cemetery that has been transitioned into
a park, yeah, that isthe number one. Now what now,
the people that have relatives buried atPioneer Park, did they have to like
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get an okay from the city,like Okay, you can just leave their
body there and we're just gonna movetheir headstone. No, the last person
that was buried there was in nineteensixty I believe, if memory serves me
correctly, that the city, ifsomeone was going to be buried there in
the cemetery pretty soon, that thecity would give them a spot at Mount
Hope Cemetery. Okay, and that'swhere they move a lot of the headstones
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too, also. And then theheadstones that we saw in the video,
those are now kind of like amemorial. Yeah, they put those in.
They put the last of the headstonesas a memorial. And an interesting
fact is, have you ever beento Mount Hope Cemetery. No, So
the trolley runs through there. Theyput another trolley line in there. And
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then when they were digging into theside of the hill to widen to put
another row of tracks, they founda bunch of the headstones that they kind
of stored there that they totally forgotabout it because the grass had grown over
them. So they found where abunch of the uh first batches of stones
were placed. Oh my god,not bodies, just stones, just as
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stones. Yeah. But whoa.Okay, So please explain to our viewers
about the meters that we were using. So the meters that we use are
the brand is called K two Ktwo Enterprises dot Com. I have found
them to be the best meter forfinding things that are pair normal, so
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they're made to pick up a legromagneticfield or frequencies that like electricity gives off
and a magnet gives off. Butthe K two meter also finds things that
are totally unexplainable, like when thespirits touch them and things like that.
That's why they use them on alot of the ghost hunting shows because they
are really a very unique and wonderfultool in the world of ghost hunting.
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It was really cool because we wouldwalk around it and have the green light
on the one at the very bottom, and then we'd walk over a certain
spot and then all three of ourswould go like all the way to the
red like And so that's just theyou believe or those are spirits playing around
with us or trying to speak tous or communicate with us. So I
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think that there are there are spiritsthat hover above where they're buried. There
are some spirits that are trapped inbuildings, and some spirits that travel around.
How one becomes their other, Idon't know, but it's taking me
years to find where those four spiritsare that we went to m H and
the guy that throws the rocks.It is taking me years to find insane.
It's taken me years to find thespirits that like to interact with us
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using the meter. Because when yougo ghost and you take a lot of
equipment and find what the spirits canmanipulate and pioneer part. They really love
to manipulate the K two meter.And it's such a giant park that that
must have taken years to like justslowly go through every inch of the grass.
But there are also divots in thegrass, insane, where the bodies
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I guess just start to get theystart to sink. I mean, well,
the body decays and then the groundon top of it weighs and sinks
down. And you got that littledivid or that little void on the top
of the ground where the body thebody is taken up. Y oh my
gosh. Okay, So what islike Gettysburg? Like Gettysburg is an interesting
place. When I go, Istay at the Double Day in the Double
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Day in. Oh, I'm havinga brained the Double Tree. No,
I think it's called the Double dayIn. It's a it's a house that's
a that's been turned into a bedand breakfast. Uh. It is one
of the closest lodgings to the battlefield. I don't know if I should incriminate
myself and tell things that I've done. Sure, okay, you're not supposed
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to go in there after dark.But the the place that I was that
I stay at. Uh, ifyou go into the street right in front
of the place, you're in thestate park, so you have to be
in the parking lot. But sometimes, you know, you accidentally take a
step too far, and anyways,you can see you know, spirits hanging
out or ghosts hanging out in thein the battleground at Gettysburg, you can
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literally just like look and see spirits. You know. A lot of times
it's a matter of being at theright place at the right time, looking
in the right direction, or it'sa numbers game and it takes a long
time to find these things. Howmany times have you been there? I've
been there one time and you didn'tmanage to see I did see one one
guy off into the into the field. Yeah, oh my god, did
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you bring your stuff with you?I did? And did did they manipulate
that or you? Just? Theonly thing that I could say that I
really got was cool at Gettysburg waswhen I was done walking around with the
digital recorder trying to catch EVPs,you know, electronic voice phenomenon. I
put the recorder in the trunk ofthe car because I still had time on
it, went to bed, andthen playing it back, you can hear
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what sounds like gunshots. Whoa that? So that that is quite and that
is quite something that I can't explain. So that was incredible. So you
sent me a photo that we're goingto show you right now if Brian,
we can get up that photo andtell us where this was and how you
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took it. And oh, that'sme, that's you. Yeah, that's
not a ghost, that's me.O my god. I was like,
did you see that? I waslooking. I was like, this still
is kind of like a long exposure, Like, yeah, that's what it
is. I didn't I did itpurposefully. But the other one, oh,
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the other one. That's that's misterSeely, the ghost of mister Ceely
at the Cosmopolitan Hotel. Oh thatis it? Okay crazy? That is
like a full blown man right there. Oh yeah, he and his wife
are seen walking around at night inthe building. Like we said when we
I think we called you my friend. Yes, I called you my friend,
and I or my two friends andI we poked our head into the
(27:27):
cobs of Politan Hotel down at thebar area and the restaurant area. It
was totally closed. All the doorswere locked. There was nobody on that
little deck that porch at all.And when we rattled the door to the
bar area, somebody said, comeon in and sit down. I'm like,
Jody Goes, did you hear that. I'm like, yes, Kim,
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did you hear that? Yes?Where did that come from? It
came from inside and there was nobodyin there. So was that a ghost?
I don't think it was necessarily aghost, like we're talking about something
you can see, but it wasthe voice of a spirit talking to you
from inside the building. Yes,and that things happen in that building every
day, like what guests leave thehotel in the middle of the night because
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you see ghosts walking around in theirrooms. That's common. You can a
sound phenomenon upstairs, you know,hearing people walk around. My first experience
was during the summer of two thousandand five. I was staying outside in
the corner of the property talking tosecurity guard and this is when the building
was closed and we could hear someonewalking on the second story, verandah,
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And then we went around the backheard it again walking, and then the
security opened the gate and we wentinside. And that was my first experience,
was the sound phenomenon of someone walkingaround upstairs on that second story.
Oh my god. And then whatelse have you seen at the Cosmopolitan besides
that gentleman that was very visible inthat picture? How much time do you
have? Really? Oh my gosh, it's crazy on your tours se do
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people see things? So on thetour I leave a like when we did
the the podcast there, I leftthe door open because sometimes people hear things,
see things, or feel things andit freaks them out and they have
to run out of the building thatopen. Yeah, because things happen all
the time. And I first whenI first started to bring people in the
(29:15):
building, sometimes people would have episodes, things would happen and they would try
to run through the door. Sothat's why I always leave a door open
so people can can get Wow,you can get out of things. We
need to spend the night there,I know. So if you go on
the internet you read that people saythis is the most haunted room or that
is the most haunted room. I'vebeen there for eighteen years. All of
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the rooms are haunted. The spiritstravel upstairs, downstairs in the courtyard on
the second story. They're all over, So it doesn't matter what room you
take. Oh whoa, What aboutthe Whaley House? What is your Have
you ever had an experience seeing aspirit there? The Waley House is where
I saw my first ghost in Octoberof nineteen ninety nine. The first ghost
that I saw was Violet Whaley.Really yeah, And what does she look
(30:00):
like? I mean, was shetransparent? Was she like? So I
saw a program they were talking aboutAmerica's most haunted houses. When the show
was over, it was the onlyone that was on the on that episode
that was in the area. SoI went down there with my then girlfriend
and I was doing wedding photography withher. So I had a good camera,
so hey, let's go take somepictures. So he went down and
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were taking a bunch of pictures andI we're ready to leave, and I
lifted the camera up and there wasa lady on the other side of the
doorway in the front door. Shewas looking right over my shoulder. Same
heights as me and I didn't takethe picture, brought the camera down,
and then I looked back and shewas at the end of the hall,
gliding left back where the stairs are. I can only see from the waist
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up. So it happened very quickly. But I went back the next day.
Inside the building, you paid yourfive dollars and you could walk around
in the house. And they hada lot of family photos on the walls
at that time. And I askedthe guy who that lady was, and
he told me that was why,And then that's the lady I saw the
night before, and then found outmore about how she died in the home.
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We spent the night there when Iwas with the Jeff and Er show.
My Randy and I got we gotto spend the night overnight in the
Wayley House in the parlor. Theparlor, so we were sleeping on the
floor, okay, on the floor, and we were one of the docents
there, and uh, my headwas kind of pointed toward where the courthouse
(31:29):
is, you know, a littlecourtroom area. You were in the first
room or in the second, thefirst room where that couches and the then
the the court room is like yes, that way. Anyway, I was
like kind of getting creeped out,right, So I said, Randy,
can I like scoop closer to you? And He's like, no, I
have a girlfriend. I was like, wait a minute, this is not
anything like that. I'm just scared. So I got up to move like
on the other side of him,and something pulled my leg back shut.
(31:52):
I swear to God, and Iwas like what And so it was like
two o'clock in the morning. I'mlike, peace out and I went home.
I was so scared because I mean, so doing it. But you
want to do you want to spendthe night at the college? Fine,
I didn't know that that is stillavailable. Yeah, the hotel is available.
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Yeah, there's ten rooms. They'reall old timey eighteen hundred furniture in
the rooms. Okay, and youget your complimentary breakfast in the morning.
Oh my god, I have familyvacation family. Do you really you would
want your own? What if likea ghost was just like in the bed
(32:35):
next year? What I'm looking for? That's ideal. So, Michael,
if you look over your shoulder,I saw Okay. So Brian one day
brings in the weedy board one nightthis is for our Halloween episodes. It
was for our Halloween episode. Yes, so we had the full like we
had candles. He had candles,he had We were all dressed up and
everything, and so, long storyshort, we conjured up a spirit.
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We think her name was Hazel.She spelled out Hazel in this character.
I mean Hester Hester Hester sorry Hesterhere. Yes, Okay, it was
not a great reading. It wasn'ta great reading. I think we got
nothing. However, is she stillhere? Flash forward like two weeks later
or I don't know how long Iwas. Really I woke up like two
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o'clock in the morning. I washungry. My room's upstairs, so I
came downstairs. A minute. I'mgoing to tell you where she hangs out.
Why perfect do you know? Whydo you know this? Why do
you know this? Because when Iwas sitting over there, So I'm going
to tell you where she hangs out. Let me just say this. God,
(33:42):
I'm gonna go set in my car. This is awesome. Now,
it's not that you know, thisis where I saw her, So it's
not like this is where she isall the time. But she hangs out
over there. Oh my god,she was between the my couch used to
be right there. She was betweenthe patty of doors and the couch,
just standing there. See, Iwant to tell you this first, so
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you don't tell me, and thenI say, oh, yeah, that's
where it was, So that isinsane. I don't think her name is
Hester, though I think she's probablygot a different name. Plus I've never
heard the name Hester. And alsowe were like, there's a name that's
an old timey name. Yeah,but like we it was the process of
you, guys, getting Hester wasa stretch. It wasn't there like a
Hester print or something that was anold in a famous book or something.
Yes, Now, do you consideryourself as sensitive? Then we all are,
(34:30):
okay because they make fun of mewhen I say that I'm a sensitive
because I thinks, okay, that'sokay, because I feel like I can
walk into a home or walk intoa building and go, there's something not
right here. We're all psychic andsensitive differently. Once you figure out how
you are psychic or sensitive, youcould become better at it. Okay,
So what are you the best at? For me, it's easier to see
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them. So did you see yousaw something here when you came in or
did you just sense it her?I could sense that there was something over
there, and it's it's darkness.It's dark. She was dark. She
was dark. It was a darkfigure. It wasn't I don't know if
she's here right now. I'm notfocusing on that because I'm yeah, yeah,
(35:12):
it's she's dark. This is myfavorite corner. Now I know,
I'm going to do the rest ofthe podcast in my car, so scary,
have a good time. No,it's Brian's freaking fault for bringing in
that. Dang we and look it'sright there. I always thought that this
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place was ghost free because I livedin a home that was all sorts are
wrong, like bad ghosts, likepolter Guy is like evil entity type of
thing. Yeah, have you everencountered that everything I found is Cowsper the
friendly ghosts? I could not saythat I personally found anything bad or negative
(35:57):
virgamonic, no evil entities or anything. Thing I found I would say is
is Casper the friendly ghost. Haveyou ever caught anything any voices on your
your recorder? Oh? Yeah,what what do they? What are things?
Do they say? They say allsorts of things, you know,
words leave, they say their namethat you that you can just hear like
you're like you're eaves dropping on aconversation. You can hear people say words
(36:20):
that you really can't make out.You know where the jail is up in
Julian? Yeah, oh yeah,that's a cute little thing. Yeah that's
haunted. That's haunted. That's bad. Yeah. Bad. The next time
you go there, if you takeyour recorder on your your phone, hopefully
the door the one door's open.Uh, ask a question and then put
your phone in and wait twenty seconds, and then ask another question, wait
(36:43):
twenty seconds, and then play itback later and see what you hear.
Oh wow, Okay, where's thejail? Is it next to the that
cemetery? That's right, No,it's on the other end. On the
other cemetery is cool. Look andit's a creepy cemetery, very much so,
very other end. Okay. Sothat is a haunted spot, the
Julian jail. So that's like atouristy thing that you want that's somewhere close.
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You know, people live here inSan Diego, they've they've been there.
I'm sure they've seen it. Sowhen we go on San diegost tour,
you do a walking tour, whichI like because you get to really
sit and experience rather than sit ina vehicle and drive by. So like,
where do you Where are the spotsthat you take us? So there
are ten stops. So we walkstop and I tell some things that have
(37:27):
happened to me while ghost heating.We start inside the h You know this
camera makes me look fat. No, I was just thinking the same thing.
I was like, Wow, Ilook at yourself. You're supposed to
look at the camp. That's thecamera. You're supposed to be learning at
that. Yeah, but no,you're not. You're anything but fat,
Kelly. It makes me look fat. Camera adds ten pounds everybody. So
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we start at the state Park.I do a quick little intro about me
ghost hunting and so on and soforth, and then we just walk and
I tell some things that have happenedto me. We talked a little bit
about history of old Town and thefire that happened in eighteen seventy two that
kind of was the downfall of theold Town area. Then we get to
Whaley House to talk about my firstghost, go to the cemetery, and
then we go back to the WhaleyHouse and I area Whaleyhouse area, and
(38:10):
I show you where the vortex.Oh yeah, in the street, yes,
yeah, where the unexplainable pockets ofenergy are. And once I show
you where they are and show youthe technique to be able to feel them,
you can find them anytime you wantbecause they're always there. That was
That was cool. And then howyou said that there were uh bodies that
(38:35):
went out into the street, right, Well, that's at the cemetery.
So yeah, so the cemetery isits original size. So they put the
trolley. They brought the trolley fromdowntown to Old Town. That's why the
street is curved like that for therailroad tracks to bend. So they just
moved the wall up and then asphaltedand sment it over the people in front.
Okay, so and there's little thelittle markers at SAE. Yeah,
(38:57):
little markers. Yes, I rememberthat, and I remember feeling the vortex.
But tell us, how are peoplethat are watching this or listening,
how do you find a vortex?And oh well the vortex. Finding the
vortex in Old Town was a matterof happening to turn a meter on the
meter going crazy. The first timeI got this meter, the meter was
(39:19):
going crazy. And it took mea long time to figure it out.
So now on all my tours,when I turn the meter on, if
you walk like the spokes of awheel, you can pick any place as
the middle, and you walk intothe meter stops, walk into the meter
stops, walk into the meter stops, and you can find this vortex that's
slowly moving south. And what isa vortex unexplainable pockets of energy. So
(39:42):
a lot of times when I talkabout the vortex, I reference Sodona,
Arizona, because so many people havebeen in the Sedona. They're famous for
their their five vortexes. And thevortex is there in Sedona? Are the
different are different than the one inOld Town? Also the different one in
what's the mystery spot San Jose,Santa Cruz. Now it sound as far
as Oakland. The mystery spot inSan I can't remember, but people are
(40:07):
saying it. I can. Ican hear the people at home saying it
is it. It's in California.Yeah, it's up the coast. There's
a different type of war Texas,Okay, And so some are paranormal,
some are all all unexplainable. Yeah, because I went to Sedona on my
own. One time I went ona vacation by myself and I tried to
find a vortex. I couldn't figureout what I was doing. So I'm
(40:27):
gonna I'm gonna tell you the secretfinding the vortex's and Sedona. Uh,
the internet. Look on the internet, okay, And when you go to
the hotel, ask them for thethrowaway map. They'll give you a map
that shows where the vortexes are.Well, here's a throwaway. Well,
it's just something you can throw awaywhen you're done. Oh okay, I
catch on quick, Catch on quick. The closest vortex or the easiest one
(40:52):
to get to is the airport vortex. There's limited parking that some of the
other ones you have to hike to. But and you're supposed to feel like
more energized and stuff. I didn'tfeel anything because you didn't Okay, I
didn't feel anything. The meters didn'tpick anything up. Again, different different
type, which is say, differentdifferent type of different type of vortexes.
(41:13):
But there are there are a lotof people that that do experience the the
the energy and sensation of the vortexesand Sedona. Yes, what is your
most recent experience aside from seeing hesterin the corner over there. What is
your most recent experience ghostly? Soat the Cosmo. I also offer a
ghost hunt where we use more ofthe equipment like they do on the ghost
(41:35):
sending shows on television, and Idid one last night, and the we
find something every time. Not onlydo the spirits like to talk to us
using the equipment, but we usethe connect stick figure camera and the spirits
come out, and then I showpeople how to put their hand in it.
Not only can you see it onthe screen, the spirit standing there,
but when you put your hand init, you can not only feel
it, but you can see thespirit moving which you put when you put
(41:55):
your hand in it. Whoa okayfor the cat? Oh yeah, the
ghost cat. Yes? Did wefind the cat last time? Yes?
So many things happened, it's hardto remember. Oh my god, that
was insane. Yeah, there's apicture of the ghost cat too. You
had a picture of the ghost cat. I think I remember sticking my hand
out. You could feel it walkright, It was insane. Oh my
(42:15):
gosh. Okay, So this whenyou take all your equipment and stuff,
it's a whole it's a different thanthe walking tour. Yes, because we
spend ninety percent of our time justinside the building. And how many people
do you take on that tour?Just a few? Just a few?
Okay, you have a big anniversaryright now, twenty five years. Oh
wow, I know anniversary. Andso you have a special bye two get
(42:37):
too free on any of my tours. Just call me mention the Uh there
you go. Just mention the byetwo Get too, and I'll set you
up for either tour you like togo on, the walking tour or the
ghost hunt there inside the Cosmo wherewe use more of the equipment, Oh
my gosh. Or would you takeanybody back to Pioneer Park if they wanted
to go there? That was prettycool. I know you said it,
(42:59):
it was cool for me. Idon't know. I've taken people up to
Parana Park after the tour if theyif someone was really into it and wanted
to see, yeah, I meanthe only reason I do the tour is
to share with people what I found. So if someone's really into it,
yeah, I'll drive up there andshow you. What is there some place
like aside from San Diego that you'vealways wanted to go, and somewhere that
you plan on maybe going that's hauntedthat I want to go. Yes,
(43:22):
oh yeah, I like to goto England, like the Castlecotland. Oh
yeah, some of the castles.Yeah, oh, I bet there's some
good ones in England. There's therams In. I want to go to
the Rim. That one's pretty gnarlyiOS kind of evil too. Oh not
the rams In. Yeah, thebar pub, the rams In, it's
(43:43):
a pub, Darling. That wasreally bad. Stop, I can start
doing that right now. Well,gosh, Michael, thank you so much
for joining us again. My pleasure, my pleasure. This. He is
such a good tour guide. Youdo such a good bar. You really
know your stuff, and you've beendoing it a long time now, and
it's so cool that you see thingsevery single time you go out. You
(44:05):
must just love your job. Maybeotherwise I wouldn't do it exactly, So
you do. You have a websiteSenego ghost Tours dot com www dot Senego
ghost Tours dot com. And he'sa very fit man, despite him pulling
on his shirt, despite the wordthe camera looks. You don't look you
don't look big. You look amazing, all right. So when we log
(44:29):
out, we say something, doyou remember you know I'll say it,
yes your yes, yes, Okay, So here we go. Come back
on Thursday. Eric has apparently thegreatest birthday guess that's ever I've ever received,
apparently, and then something huge forproducer Brian first two year anniversary huge,
(44:53):
Oh my god, and he's goingto be presenting it them to us
on Thursday's episode, so don't missthat. And with that, I like
to say, love your podcast,Love your podcast, Love your podcast,
and thank you Leo, thank you, Debbie Gibson, thank you, Michael,
thank you, thank you, andI love you my sweet babies.
(45:15):
Bye. Thank you guys for watching
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