Full Show Podcast: 29 June 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter wolf
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
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trying not to starve.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Sissor even when we are ben even when you're therell.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
Well, very very good morning, and welcome along to the show.
My name is Pete wolf Camp. This is the Resident
Builder on and we are here to talk about all
things building construction, the rules, the regulations, the practical, the
know how, the tips and tricks let's say, generated in
part from you as the listener, because people do learn

(01:21):
from you when you're talking about the dilemmas that you have.
I had a couple of conversations during the course of
the week and people are going, actually I enjoy the
show because I learned something. When if you've got an
issue with waterproofing, you've got an issue with straightening the
boundary fence, if whatever, people will learn from that. So

(01:41):
thank you. For your contribution, and I look forward to
hearing from you today on the show, we can talk
all things building, construction, renovating, home maintenance. You know, we've
had another bout of heavy weather, and certainly not a
lot is going to prepare you if you know the
stream nearby floods and inundates the house. But there are

(02:02):
also and inevitably when you go and look at houses
perhaps that have had and talking to someone today again
or the other day, had that heavy range during the
course of the week, discovered a leak, You go and
investigate a little bit and find that actually the flashing
wasn't securely fastened down, or perhaps the catchpit hadn't been
cleaned out for a period of time. So as soon

(02:23):
as that more than a little bit of rain arrives,
the catch pit overwhelms, sends the water down the driveway,
that pushes it underneath the house, and suddenly the back
door jams because the piles got wet. You know, these
things are all connected. So we're joining the dots on
the show in a sense today, taking your calls, your questions,

(02:44):
your queries, and I wouldn't mind putting out there just
a bit of a public service announcement, but also something
that we've talked about. If I think about our theme
of the show over the last four or five years,
the Healthy Home Standards has been part of it. I
mean the legislation was announced. Gosh, it would have to

(03:05):
be like two ty seventeen twenty eighteen initially that this
was going to come in. When I say Healthy Home Standards,
we're talking about the rules and regulations. I was about
to say new, but they're raally not that new, given
how long we've been talking about them. That ensure that
rental properties for people who are renters are of a

(03:28):
suitable standard that they keep you warm. So you need
to fixed form of heating that they if you heat it,
the heat stays in. So where possible, insulation needed to
be installed in the underfloor and in the roof space.
If you've got some heat and you've got some insulation,
then you want to make sure that the drafts don't
diminish the performance of that. So draft proofing, we've got

(03:52):
rules around weather tightness and science. There's a whole bunch
of legislation there to ensure that rental properties are of
a reasonable standard. Funny thing is, of course that many
new homes wouldn't actually comply with the Healthy Home standards.
So we've talked about it for a long time. We've
had various experts on the show. We've discussed it all

(04:14):
with a view that one day it'll be law and
there will be no exceptions, there will be no extensions,
there will be no more time to get properties up
to scratch. And as it happens, that day is Tuesday.
So on Tuesday, the first of July, all New Zealand
rental properties will need to comply with the Healthy Homes legislation.

(04:36):
So in the past and the last couple of years,
if it didn't comply, as a landlord, you had ninety
days from the beginning of a new tenancy, so if
you had a long term sitting tenant, you were kind
of off the hook for a little while. Well, all
of those exceptions, as to the best of my knowledge,
have all gone, So Tuesday is the day. A little
later on, I want to just share with you a

(04:58):
bit of a story and a it sounds a bit extravagant,
but an investigation, I guess or a piece of research, no,
not even research, an investigation that I've been part of
which has raised some real issues around the tool that
we might use to determine the heating standards. The online tool.

(05:19):
It's available through the Tendency website. When it comes to apartments. Anyway,
we'll go into that a little bit later on. Right now,
i'd like to hear from you if you've got a question,
if you've got a ponderance, a musing an inquiry about
anything to do with your place, whether you own it,
whether you rent it, whether you've been there for a

(05:42):
long time, or perhaps you've just moved in and discovered that, oh,
actually it's not performing quite as well as I thought
it was going to. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty
is the number to call. You can text as well,
that's nine two nine two or zbzb from your mobile phone,
and of course you can email me. It's Pete at
Newstooksib dot co dot nz so Pete p E t

(06:03):
E at newstook Sib dot Co dot e so. As
we approach craiky the middle of the year, first of
July is also halfway through the year. If you're like me,
you're probably thinking, I thought I would have got a
lot more done this year in terms of those projects
that I wanted to get done around the house where
it's not helping at the moment for those exterior jobs.

(06:25):
Other stuff kind of gets in the way. But if
you're working away on some projects, you want to talk
about them, you want to ask some questions, you want
to check that you're heading in the right direction. We
can talk about all these things and we'll probably end
up talking about something that I wouldn't have expected on
the show today. So if you've got a tricky question,
a dilemma that's been rumbling around the back of the

(06:45):
head going I don't know how I'm going to fix that,
give me a call. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty
call now. Inevitably we get busy later on in the show,
so now it's a great time to call. The lines
are free. I'm still fresh and enthusiastic when out last
night to a great play musical on at the ALTAA Center,
which was awesome. So feeling good, looking forward to your calls.

(07:06):
Eight hundred eighty ten eighty Call me out meat.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Twice God was but maybe called Pete first. D you Walcab,
the resident builder. News Talk said be.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
Yeah, News Talk, sa'd be coming up. It is actually
sixteen minutes after six, so the lines are open. The
number to call eight hundred eighty ten eighty quick text
before we go to Richie, what's your opinion? Says due
of using ground screws to build a new deck on
a flat site instead of the traditional method for foundations
will be a lot cheaper. And I'm not sure if

(07:38):
that's a question or a statement on your parts due
opinion of using ground scows. I actually think it's a
really really useful suggestion and a and a really useful
sort of solution to what has been the conventional manner,
which is, you know, you go out to build a deck,
you figure out where your piles need to do need

(07:59):
to be. You then dig down minimum sort of four hundred,
four hundred and fifty square down until you hit well
into the clay. So you want to be a minimum
of four hundred and fifty in the ground. You've got
to then take that spoil which doubles in size when
you dig it out. You've got to get rid of
that somewhere. Then you're going to get the posts. You
can stand the post up. You're going to either if

(08:21):
you've got a big enough job, you might phone up
and get some Readymax otherwise you're going to buy some bags,
or you're going to buy some builders mix some BM
twenty and some cement and mix that either in a
mixer or in a wheelbarrow, et cetera, et cetera, versus
someone coming and putting those piles, those screw piles in
place for you, setting them up neatly to the right

(08:43):
height that you can simply bolt the bearer straight to
the top of it, and then you're building. So you've
got nothing to take away, nothing to bring in, just
the screw piles. So yeah, I would seriously consider it.
I've been watching a renovation that a made of mine's
doing around the corner. He's the chippy acting for the
owners and an existing sort of nineteen fifties house with

(09:05):
a lot of work happening on the nineteen fifties part
of the building, but a new extension at the back
of probably about i don't know, five by five, so
not massive two story, all on screw piles. The benefit
there was probably would have been quite difficult to get
a digger in, quite difficult to get equipment in, quite

(09:26):
difficult to get spoil out, and then getting concrete pump.
I mean you can pump to almost anywhere that's that's doable,
but again tricky driveway. So yeah, depending on the site,
I'd certainly consider it absolutely. Oh eight hundred eighty ten
eighty is the number to call. Let me grab the
mouse and Richie, what's going on? How can I help?

(09:48):
How you going, kay, Richie?

Speaker 5 (09:49):
I'm well, yeah, great.

Speaker 6 (09:52):
We recently moved into a sort of renovated bungalow at
christ Church and where there was an extension room put
on years ago. There was a leak in through the roof,
like quite a flat roof surface and in behind one
of the walls. Now we pretty confident we've got to
the bottom of it. We've had a few people expert

(10:13):
in to sort it. There was a wee bit of damage,
you know, just from the moisture and mold and things
like that, which I feel cleaned probably eighty nine looking great.
It's just how long before we put the jib wall
back on. I'm a bit nervous to cover it up.
Obviously right, perfectly dry, but how dry is dry? And

(10:35):
how long would you suggest we wait to be sure
we've got on top of the leak.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
Well, I suppose until the next big storm. So you
know if you were, well, if you're top of the
South Island in Auckland, that sort of thing. Actually, most
of the country got lashed over the last few days,
chances are if it didn't leak now, And in fact,
I was out yesterday having coffee and the person I
was with went, you know, you know that flat roof
at my place, Well, it started leaking during the week.

(11:00):
So I think if you had a decent amount of
rain over the last week or so and leak, then
I think you can be reasonably assured that it'll be
okay in terms of moisture content. So if you're doing
a new build or any work with a building content,
the councilor will come and inspect the moisture content of

(11:21):
the framing prior to lining, and typically they're looking for
about eighteen percent. Now, not many people have moisture testers.
They're actually quite cheap. Funnily enough, years ago, I tell
you I bought one off trade me right, and I
think it cost me the grand total of about nineteen

(11:41):
dollars fifty for this moisture tester. You know, two prongs
on it. You just poke it into the timber, press
the button and it tells you what the moisture content is,
and I thought, just as an indicative tool, that could
be quite useful, right, so ahead, because typically the building
inspector comes out, they've got very you know, high quality

(12:02):
equipment that they need to get calibrated, I believe every
three to six months to keep up to date. And
those tools cost about twelve hundred bucks, right, so I'm thinking, actually,
this will be interesting. So I get my nineteen dollars
fifty trade me moisture tester, go round and test record
the readings and then followed the inspector around afterwards. And

(12:23):
I was within zero point five of a percent. So anyway,
if you had one of those and you tested the
timber and the timber was somewhere around the eighteen percent
moisture content, then you're happy. I'd be happy with that.
And the idea is that that below that it's unlikely
to have the conditions to generate mold growth. Right, so

(12:44):
you need a certain amount of dampness in the timber.
Once you encapsulate that it's less likely to dry out.
So we want the timber to be really dry when
we're lining. So if you've got a mate who's got
one test it if it's about eighteen percent. You're fine,
all right. In that area that was exposed and that
that got wet, did you notice some mold growth? Yes, okay,

(13:10):
and you've treated that with something.

Speaker 6 (13:13):
Yeah, clean, that treated it. Yeah, yes, it's almost all gone.
You like, it's to a point where, yeah, you can
see you can sort of see signs of it, but
it's it's clean and dry in my mind.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
Yeah, okay. I mean, if you want to take a
real belt embracest approach, the other thing to do, because
is that timber the old original timber so nineteen thirties
for bungalow, or is it more modern timber.

Speaker 6 (13:39):
It's no, most of the timber there's new. I can redone,
and it's more mold on the back of lining of
a wall behind the shore. It was sort of like
the backside of some waterproof cub Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
Yeah. So again, if you were able to test it,
you wouldn't test the face that you're lining. You try
and get the tester in at the back and see
whether that moisture content where the timber is touching the
old lining has actually dropped out.

Speaker 7 (14:05):
Yes, yeah, all right, good.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Luck with that.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
Hopefully it's sorted all the best. Take care Richie by
oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty the number to call. Hello, Susie, Well,
good morning, How are you very well?

Speaker 8 (14:20):
Thank you and you good great early early Sunday morning.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
Sure as how can I help?

Speaker 8 (14:27):
We had a we had a fence, a pung of
fence that over when we when we had the very
heavy rain a couple of days ago. It's fallen over
onto outside of the property. We've had quite a few
issues with the fence and the fence line with the neighbors,

(14:47):
and we're just wondering whether this is a fence falling
overnight that is something that we would be covered by
insurance or not.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
Look, I have to say, I mean when you say
a pung of fence is this it brings back memories.
We had one at home. It was like, I don't
know where we even got the pun of logs from,
but the idea was that you kind of just dug
a trench, stood them upright, and packed the soil around it,
and hey, presto. These fence incredibly sustainable, you know, in

(15:17):
the sense that you're harvesting something from the forest. There's
no concrete there, but that by the by, yeah, but
in terms of you know, is that a fence that
would let's say, be part of the Fencing Act. No,
it's not. And would they be particularly long lasting? Probably

(15:39):
not either. I would have thought so if the yours
has fallen over, maybe that's the end of its life span.
And I wonder whether if you went to the insurance
and explained what type of fence you had, the insurer
might say, well, actually, you know what, it probably is
at the end of its life and just got a
helping hand by the recent rain.

Speaker 9 (15:59):
Probably.

Speaker 10 (16:00):
Well.

Speaker 8 (16:01):
The other thing is my husband is sort of wondering
if the fence is on the boundary or is within
the neighbors who's responsible for it. It's like, if it's
on the boundary, we're both responsible. If it's actually within
the neighbors section, is it their responsibility.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
That's how I would see it. You know, typically, if
we're doing a fence, we determine the boundary first, and
in some instances that's not that easy, right, if there's
no boundary markets then how do you know without getting
a survey? And then you know, conventional sort of wisdom
would be, if we take the stringline, we make that
the center of the post and then we build the
fence there and then effectively it's shared. So if you

(16:41):
do happen to know where the boundary is and you
can determine that, and then if it's solely on your property,
then I would say that that's solely your responsibility. If
it's solely on the neighbors, then I think it becomes
their responsibility. And hopefully that you would go to their
insurer or they would go to their insuran in order
to have it repaired.

Speaker 8 (17:00):
And that information will be held with counsel.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
No, no, sorry to be so blunt. No, council unlikely
to have any information at all about the fence. They
will have information about the market section size. So in
some cases and it as all of those files around

(17:24):
surveying and so on get transferred across to a more
digital format, the information held is much more precise. But
you might find, for example, that at one end of
your section you've actually got a boundary marker. You can
go to the property file, find what the the distance
of your property is from the file and then measure

(17:44):
from there across and that will give you a good
idea of where it is. But in the end, unless
you've actually got a boundary marker or a survey peg.
No one's ever completely sure like to the millimeter where
the boundary actually is. The only way to get that
done if it's not there is to get a surveyor.

Speaker 8 (18:01):
And what do the boundary markets actually look like?

Speaker 4 (18:04):
Typically there's two sorts of well two or three that
I'm familiar with. One is a bit of three B two,
so seventy five x fifty. It's white with a very
sharp point in it. It'll be driven into the ground,
and then on top of it it'll have a nail.
That's what you're often looking for, and they're the ones
that you see quite a bit. There is now, I
think a PVC boundary marker, which can be put in

(18:27):
as well. Not as common. The other thing is sometimes
I like, you know, if you want to build a
fence on the boundary and there's a boundary marker there,
a surveyor might come remove that marker. You put the
fence posts in the right place, and then they come
back and put like a little aluminum disc that's about
thirty millimeters in diameter, and they'll fix that to the ground,

(18:48):
or they'll fix it to the top of a fence
post or something. Like that to indicate where the boundary is.
So that's what you're looking for, all.

Speaker 8 (18:54):
Right, great, okay, love, thank you, all right.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
Take care, Thank you very much. We might take a
short break and we'll come back to Danny in a moment.
I want to deal with this one after the break
as well. Text that's come through Part one, Morning Pete,
our house has an issue with heat. In summer it
can be well over forty degrees and in winter we
struggle to get it to twenty. It's a new build
relocated to site in twenty nineteen. Part two. One side

(19:21):
of the house is nearly all ranch sliders or big
sliding windows. This side is we're facing short of moving
the house. Is there any other solution to managing the
heating and calling good news? Is there is? Stand by, folks.
We'll be back after the.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
Break doing other house sorting the garden. Asked Pete for
a hand. The resident builder with peta wolfcap call oh
eight news dogs'd.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
Be indeed, newsbalks'd be. We're talking all things building construction.
We will come to that tech shortly. But Danny, good
morning to you.

Speaker 5 (19:53):
Yeah, morning peatoday, send a veluminium joinery, some external doors
from a bedroom in sidelight, and we're just getting a
teeny bit of water coming in onto the concrete pad
on the inside down one corner. It was causing carpa
to rot. Yes, I had a couple of alumnion people
come up and they're sort of squirt a bit of
oooken there, and yeah, doesn't do anything. Don't really want

(20:16):
to have to pull the whole sort of shebang out
because it's a concrete plastered house. That's a bit of
a major Is there any other alternatives?

Speaker 4 (20:26):
No, I think if you've done you know, it's not
it's not the wrong approach. Let's say to turn up
with some silicon, you know, and try And sometimes what
can happen with aluminium jowinery, particularly sort of slightly older
aluminium jowinery, is there'll be some movement ten years old. Yeah,
there'll be some movement in the frame right, and potentially,

(20:49):
let's say the screws that often hold those sections together,
those extrusions together, may move a little bit twenty odd
years ago. We probably with the greatest respect, we're not
that diligent around trying to seal those corners, and so
sometimes they'll move and water will track in through there,
in which case, applying some sealant to seal that is

(21:11):
not necessarily the wrong thing to do. What you don't
want to do necessarily is go putting lots of sealant
around and then blocking up drainage paths which are required.
And I've seen that sometimes every now and then. What
is it a ranch slider, is it a bifold door?
Is it a standard opening door?

Speaker 5 (21:32):
Standard opening doors? So we've poured a truckload of water
through the drains on the bottom of it, and that's
fine to put the hose on the outside, yeah, of
the glass that it slowly starts seeping on on the inside.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
So when you're testing it, you're just putting the water
onto the glass. You're not spraying the wall and the
joinery at the same time.

Speaker 5 (21:56):
Well, the glass and near leminum jowinery, Donny step it
back and isolate one from the other.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
Yeah, that will because essentially, if like if you direct
some water just purely at the glass and the aluminum
jewnery without going onto the cladding at all, and it leaks,
then you know that you've probably got an issue with
the joinery. If for example, because obviously it's an interaction
between the joinery and the wall cladding. And I know
you're reluctant for obvious reasons to have to deal with

(22:21):
the cladding, but in some cases you might find actually
the leak is around that junction between the cladding and
the joinery and waters getting in there. Again, twenty odd
years ago, we didn't often do a great job with
ceiling around the perimeter of the jowinery. So in that
gap between the jam and the timber framing, in.

Speaker 5 (22:43):
Some timber framing, it's concrete.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
Oh, it's and it's solid masonry, yeah, block with a
rebate for the joinery, yes, okay, and then the joinery.

Speaker 5 (22:56):
I don't think it's the I don't think it's the
concrete because we've also actually recently painted the house. Yes,
if there's any leaks around there, sure, yeah. And you
when you're squirreed in the you know about a foot
up from the bottom, so it's nothing coming in from.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
Above, Okay, yep. Then look, most likely it's going to
be somewhere in the aluminum extrusions. If they've done the seilant.
What's the condition of the rubber seals around the glazing.

Speaker 5 (23:28):
Yeah, it seems okay, okay, But I thought even if
that that the seals were leaking, I.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
Should run out of the rain drain. Yeah, what's at
the bottom, Like, is there a pathway outside or a deck?

Speaker 5 (23:45):
There's a deck, so it's well above the ground height.

Speaker 6 (23:48):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
Is there a twelve millimeter gap between the deck and
the joinery?

Speaker 9 (23:58):
Twelve?

Speaker 11 (23:59):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (23:59):
Yeah, at least Okay, all right, because you know, again
that's one of the things that's the requirement of the
code now that if you do have like a level
entry deck or something like that, that you want to
make sure that there's a gap there and that twelve
millimeters allows for drainage, and it also it allows for ventilation, right,
so water doesn't get stuck there and then potentially get
capillary back up and up and underneath the flashing. Do

(24:24):
you know if when you probably don't, if the window
was installed, did they seal the rebait at the bottom?

Speaker 5 (24:33):
No idea. We only bought the house about a year ago,
we knowing the leak was there. It's now just trying
to remedy us there.

Speaker 9 (24:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
Sure is the thought of pulling if it's hot. Is
it a hot block specifically type.

Speaker 5 (24:49):
Yeah, the block with the polystine in the middle.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
Yeah, okay, the hot block, okay, and it's a rebait,
and then the windows are inserted into there is there
a head flashing.

Speaker 5 (25:02):
No, there is, but that's a negative detail. So so there's
a drip line, right, Okay, water comes through when I'm
just spraying the bottom part of the window, so i've
sort of ice ladder. It's not from the.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
Top, Okay, all right, it'll it'll be a leak somewhere
in the joinery, in the frame or the seals.

Speaker 5 (25:26):
I'm trying to find some old bugger that there has
been doing the animinium drawing for years. It'll know exactly
what it is.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
I know exactly the right person, but he's he's a
little bit out of action at the moment. Look, I'll
tell you what. If you can find on the frame
somewhere it does it have the name of the original manufacturer.
I don't need to know who that is, but if
it's if it's a reasonably well known brand, I'd go
to them and go, hey, look, can you send out

(25:53):
your old fellow. You know, with the greatest respect to
old fellows like myself, a little bit of gray here
is not a bad thing in this instance, and they
may well be able to identify it, so I would
that would be my next step. Actually, see if you
can find out who the yourig general joinery manufacturer is.
Get in touch with them, see if they can send
someone out and have a look.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
Very good.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
The other company that's that's pretty experienced in this fields
exceed window maintenance unless you they've been out in that
look all right, try the original joiners.

Speaker 7 (26:24):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
We'll do that, all right, you get good luck with that?

Speaker 5 (26:27):
Good on you take care.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
Yes, the chappie that I know, who I've called on many,
many many times is just is laid up after some
surgery at the moment, but bloody good to catch up
with you on Friday. To mate, I eight hundred eight.
If he's listening to the show, I eight hundred eighty
ten eighty is the number to call. Let me see
six thirty eight Scott Greetings.

Speaker 12 (26:48):
Hello, how are you going?

Speaker 13 (26:49):
Signing?

Speaker 4 (26:50):
Yeah, very well, thank you.

Speaker 12 (26:52):
That's a sorry. I've got a question about We've got
a pool that's been in the ground for about forty
years and it's it's it's sunken below the surrounding ground
by one point two one point seven meters and then
it's got a one of the good pall fences, you know,
the steel ones, and that goes around and it goes

(27:16):
out to a ha ha a ha ha. You know,
like you know, your lawn goes and then it drops
off into the paddock.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
Never heard it described as a ha ha?

Speaker 12 (27:26):
Oh yeah, So is this.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
No, no, a country thing?

Speaker 14 (27:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (27:32):
Probably, yeah. So you have your lawn and then you
look straight out to your pads and then there's a
drop off and into the lawn down to the to
the paddock and it's and in this case.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
That you call it a ha ha. Is that because
you laugh and you're doing roly polies down the hill
with a name?

Speaker 12 (27:50):
No, no, it's not a hill. It's like it's like
an need. It's got a no no, It just goes
the lawn and then it stops and then there's a drop. Yes,
you know, the vertical dropped down to the to the
diferent area. Yeah, yep. So it's like one point two
one point four meters or with.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
The retaining wall or is it just battered the.

Speaker 12 (28:09):
Retaining and it's been in there for forty years and
it's got a hedge on a hedge on top of that,
which is very fucking goes across there, and then on
the other side it's got a railing fence, like a
one point two one point three meters railing things for
the electric trust to the honor, and then side that
there's like a three foot heats that's been there for

(28:32):
forty years and that, and then it's got the proper
gates with.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
The proper you know, the proper Yeah, the lectures self
closing and lecture.

Speaker 12 (28:42):
And height all right, height, and then you've got the
botoms and stuff like that. So the huge of one
called us a little bit weak. Now we've had we've
had an expection recently and they suggested if and then
it couldn't get in there if you know what I mean,
little owner child at the moment. But the suggesting that

(29:05):
we have to put meeting up on the railing fence
on the outside of the edge and stuff like that
so that you can't get a purchase there to climb.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
To ensure that it's not climbable.

Speaker 12 (29:16):
Yeah, which it isn't because it's got electricity over and
it's got and then there's a three foot heage to
climb through which it can't, which is impenetrable.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
Hedges are not considered suitable for pool fencing.

Speaker 12 (29:28):
No, No, that's right, we're getting that, we're getting to
that point. So they suggested, and the report was used
meeting on the edge of the fence, which will which
will make it child proof or child proof in their eyes?
And what the question was is do you need if

(29:48):
you if you if you don't upgrade your fence, do
you need a constin.

Speaker 9 (29:54):
Not?

Speaker 15 (29:54):
Typically No, the fellows that we're trying to councils got
as adamant that if you'd start doing this and that
you need to constinct a building consent for a fend.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
You'd have to ask them to which piece of legislation
would it require a building consent? Yes, so I would.
I would probably go back and say, look, my understanding
is that under Schedule one of the act, I don't
require a building consent. Can you tell me exactly which
part of this construction triggers a requirement for a building consent,

(30:26):
Even the fact that it's a pool fence and you
know it's therefore safety, I don't know that that would
necessarily require a building consent. Needs to comply with the
pool fencing requirements in terms of its performance. And I'm
a little bit curious about this idea of sort of
wrapping some mesh around the outside of it, because that

(30:49):
in many ways the mesh will just make it more
climbable because it's its finger and toe holts, right, not the.

Speaker 12 (30:57):
Mess the proper square mesh, it's the rest.

Speaker 7 (30:59):
Oh yeah, okay.

Speaker 12 (31:03):
I've seen it years before and some division around. You know,
when they have those the water flows to certain areas
and then they've got like a bonding system, then then
it flows into pipe and disappears.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
Now I'm with you.

Speaker 7 (31:15):
Yeah, okay, they've got they've.

Speaker 12 (31:17):
Got a writing things up and then check that stuff
to the outside of it.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
I think in terms of so the the assessment or
the inspection is obviously done by a council officer.

Speaker 12 (31:30):
Yeah, and they've done like it's been like that for
forty years.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
Yeah, And okay, so look, maybe laws have changed or
maybe they've kind of turned a blind eye to it
and let it go and now they're not prepared to
so you know, but I think with these sorts of things,
they need to be very clear around this is where
your fence fails in terms of compliance with the Poor
Fencing Act. And I'm a little bit surprised that they

(31:56):
offer up solutions. Sometimes they're not. They don't want to
do that because they don't want to be held responsible
for it. But if they have offered up a solution,
that's fine. But then to say that it requires a
building consent, you just gently go back and say, hey,
look on what grounds that's right?

Speaker 12 (32:11):
I'd think the existing sense putting the netting up was fine,
and the haha was putting up the netting so that
there was no toe holds. And then what I suggested
were putting in some new posts and then put the
net that this special mess stuff to the one point
two meters because everyone is high. And then there was

(32:33):
when he got panicis there we need a building consider
put some posts them?

Speaker 16 (32:37):
I don't.

Speaker 17 (32:37):
I don't think so.

Speaker 12 (32:38):
But yeah, then under the what is what do you say?
That was under the first Act?

Speaker 4 (32:45):
So work that work that can be done, building work
that can be done without necessarily requiring a building consent
is summarized and schedule one of the acts. So if
you want to do a quick on online search, she
just sets for building acts, should your one, and it'll
bring up all of the exemptions, typical exemptions. And I
would have thought that fencing generally is an exemption.

Speaker 12 (33:07):
Yeah yeah, oh no, that's great.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
All the best. You're Scott. It goes well. Take care o.
There a couple of texts on the now. Maybe it's
not a ha ha, maybe it's a hard gar. A
hager was a device in landscaping invented by Capability Brown
in the UK to give the impression of fields appearing
to go right up to a grand house. The fence
was placed at the bottom of the ditch, unseen from

(33:30):
the grand house windows. John from Omaru, thank you very
much a hager. So the I I suppose the idea
is you'd have your lawn extending out from your grand
palace in the countryside in the UK, and then the
bank slopes down and you put the fence to keep
out the peasants at the bottom so you can't see

(33:51):
the poor and impoverished pleading at the gates when you're
sitting having a cup of tea in a cucumber sandwich
in the afternoon. It kind of works. Oh, eight hundred
eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Just a
quick one on the joinery that's leaking. The fixed glazing
panel maters are open. Take out the glass to fix it.
That's a very good point, thank you, Peter. So for

(34:15):
Danny who's got the leaking joinery. If what they've done
is come along and sort of opened the door and
filled that area with silicon, it might be if there's
a fixed panel that you need to unclip the glazing beads,
lift the unit out, whether it's single or double glazed out,
and then seal the miters there and then reinstall the glass.

(34:35):
If they didn't do that when they arrived with a
tube of silicon, then that might be a next step.
Thank you very much Peter for your suggestion. Oh, eight
hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Will
come back and talk to Roger in just a moment.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Whether you're peaty with ceiling fixing with or wondering how
to fix that hole in the wall, give Peter wolf
Cap call on eighty the resident builder on Youth dogs'b.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
Just before we go to Roger, I just want to
go back to that text from earlier, on part one
of the text Morning, Peter, our house is an issue
with heat. In summer it can well of forty degrees
and in winter we struggle to get it to twenty
degrees new build relocated to site in twenty nineteen. So
was it built in twenty nineteen or was it built earlier?

(35:19):
I kind of need to know. So one side of
the house is nearly all ranch sliders the house. That
side is west facing, so short of moving the house,
is there any other solution to managing heating and calling?
Thanks Rachel Looks. It's both a really simple question and
a really really complex one. I think that probably the
most sensible solution for that western side of the house

(35:42):
is to add some shade. And if you design the
shade well, i e. A purglar or pagoda that extends
out over there, what you'll find is that with the
change in the position of the sun in the sky. No,
the sun doesn't change, we change, right, So it would
appear that the sun is either higher in the sky

(36:04):
in winter and lower in summer. So in summer, sorry
in winter, So in winter you want to have some
shading that extends out that allows the sun to come in.
You want that passive soul again over the winter period,
but in summer you want it to be shaded. So
it's there are designers who will help you with that

(36:27):
to determine exactly where you need to put that shade,
how far out, how high it is, and so on,
and that will give you shading, protect you from that
soul again over the summer month, and it will allow
that warmth that you want in winter to come in
in my own house completely and utterly. Coincidentally, when we

(36:50):
renovated many many years ago, we added a veranda to
the back of the house. It's north facing. We added
some French doors, some bifolds, etc. And we also added
a verandah with a covered roof on it in a
typical sort of villa fashion. As it happens in the
middle of so the longest day was what ten days ago,
The sun lower in the sky will come underneath that

(37:13):
veranda roof and extend four meters let's say, into the room,
so the floor is lit up. In summertime, that sun
stops at the doors. Now I'm going to give credit
to my architect, Lloyd, who designed it like that, or
I'm just going to go it was just an absolute fluke,
but either way it works. So shading is going to

(37:35):
be a big part of that solution. Roger greetings, Hey.

Speaker 13 (37:40):
There shovels about some of the thty years old wether
all God I think has terror or handle some of
them and the splinter, and every time I use them
you get a wee splinter. Any plastic spray that you
can spray over.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
It, okay, that's just try. I think I've probably got
some shovels well wooden handles on them that would be
of around that vintage. Yes, I don't know that i'd go.
I mean, yes, you could probably put some sort of

(38:21):
plastic spray over them, but whether it would stay on there,
and whether or not it's kind of nice to use.
I'm not sure. Those splinters that you get, are they
wear a large sort of part of the fiber of
the timber actually starts to peel away and you're getting
a splinter, or are they like those small little splinters

(38:42):
that you might get from time to time. Yes, there's
smaller the little ones.

Speaker 10 (38:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (38:49):
Yeah, I got a space in the hand. You can't
get the things out.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
What about something like giving it a good sand, right,
so with some sandpaper, giving it a sand, knocking off
as many of those little splinters as possible, and then
just you using you know, you could use linseed oil,
you could use some Danish oil something like that to
oil and keep some moisture in the timber, which I
think will help keep down the splinters. I think I'd

(39:19):
rather go for like an oil onto the timber rather
than a plastic coating which is most likely going to
peel off again. Oh, I see, so sand at Noilam
would be my gown. I think so nice to talk
to you all the best. A little while ago I

(39:41):
was doing I came in and did a Sunday afternoon show,
The Sunday at Six with Jack S. Donaldson. I was
filling in for Frank Richie, and we got talking about
things that we couldn't part with, and then we got
talking about shovels, and then we both sort of start
to obsess about shovels. To be fair, there is nothing better. Well,
there are lots of things better. But one of life's
great pleasures, if you're involved in sort of the manual trades,

(40:04):
or you like being out in the garden and that
sort of thing, is the quality, the sheer pleasure you
get from a really good shovel and how attached you
get to them, and how intolerant you become of using
shovels that are not particularly good or spades any digging implement.
So yeah, having one with a nice wooden handle it
gives you splinters would be a source of some concern,
I would imagine. Kate, hold on, we will talk to

(40:26):
you after new Sport and where the top of the
are at seven o'clock. Text Pete how effective is underfloor
insulation in our old house and is it beneficial to
also do the walls as well? There is insulation in
the roof. Cheers from Alistair. Alistair. Probably the single best
thing you can do for your house is to add

(40:47):
insulation in the correct Insulation in the correct place will
make a massive difference to how your house performs. So yes,
underfloor insulation is tremendously effective. It will help keep the
heat in if it's well installed. It will also help
prevent those drafts that will make your house. If it's

(41:08):
a conventional strip flooring, it'll help with there. If you
can do the walls, Yes, you need to do a
bit of research as to which is the best system
for your house, but yeah, adding insulation never a bad thing.
By the way, insallation doesn't cause overheating. We'll talk about
that after the break as well. Back after the Newsszon

(41:33):
Squeaky door or squeaky floor.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Get the right advice from Peter wolf Care, the resident
builder on news Talk said, b well girls.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
By really those styles be aware and the sun girls
with the we time they knocked me out when I'm
down there westin Well, make your Newstalk's CB Pete wolf

(42:10):
Camp with you. We're talking all things building in construction
here at Newstalks CB on a Sunday morning. This is
the resident builder on Sunday, So if you'd like to
join me if you've got a question, eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call now. Before
the break, Denny was one of our earlier callers talking

(42:30):
about a persistent leak in some twenty year old aluminium
jowinery which is set into a solid, semi solid masonry wall.
So what they call a hot block system, which was
blocks I don't even think you can buy them anymore,
concrete blocks that had a polystyrene skin inserted in them
to help with their thermal efficiency. So you could build

(42:51):
in this nice solid masonry construction joinery fits into a
rebate leak at the bottom of the joinery that's then
visible on the floor inside the dwelling. A couple of
attempts to fix it, a couple of suggestions that maybe
the leak might be in the fixed panel. Now Ron
has taxed through, and I have a feeling I know

(43:13):
Ron is but and not surprised by the accuracy of
his comments.

Speaker 15 (43:18):
Pete.

Speaker 4 (43:18):
Hinged door systems typically have a sump sill. If the
underside has been inadequately sealed, it's difficult to address. One
way is very careful and accurate invasion through the top
side platform, which will have drainage holes in it. The
accuracy of the seilent application is important. Could be done
by could be done or aided by micro chemict needs

(43:41):
to be done by a person who understands the product design.
Thanks very much for that, Ron, I agree with you,
and I wonder whether in this instance going back to
the original manufacturer. Often if you open a sash, you'll
see a logo or a label on the inside of
the sash or in the inside of the jam that
will tell you who the original manufacturer is. You go

(44:02):
back there, you talk to them because they understand how
all of those various components go together and how they
should perform. So if there's a drainage hole, it's not working.
And it's pushing water back inside the building. They could
sort that out. Or if it is as Ron describes
a sump sill, then there may be ways of checking that,
or look, it might just be the case of having

(44:24):
to take the joinery out, address the issue, reinstate the joinery,
which is obviously a bit of a bigger job. RIGHTO.
Nine minutes after seven here at news Talk, se'd be
remember after act thirty this morning, we will be into
the garden with Red Clone past as always. Actually remind
me I must talk to him about ruru. Apparently it's

(44:45):
coming up to nesting season. So if you've ever thought
about making an owl box a Ruru box, you should
do that. I've built two of them to two different designs.
Turns out neither of them is particularly suitable for barn
how's but they will be okay for ruru anyway. I've
given them away. So now I've heard that in the
area that I live in there are increasing reports of

(45:05):
ruru being seen around or heard maybe, So now I'm thinking,
right next to them in the workhop, We're going to
make another al box. We're going to make another rural box,
and I'm going to use the plans from Wingspan, very
specific plans from Wingspan. I have a crack at that knowledge.
You know how I get on? Oh eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call, right, Oh, Kate, Hello,

(45:26):
thanks for waiting.

Speaker 9 (45:27):
Okay, the motion is so overwhelming that my little grievance
will probably make.

Speaker 4 (45:34):
You laugh not at all to go for it because of.

Speaker 9 (45:38):
The weather, and like, I'm an epsum and the weather's
being really, really poor. I've got a fireplace and I've
boarded it up. I've put bricks on you with a
big piece of wood or a sheet of whatever wood. Yes,

(45:58):
and I've put bricks at the bottom. But every time
the weather gets extremely windy or bad, the wood falls
out right and the air and the drug comes straight.

Speaker 11 (46:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (46:12):
And I don't know who I thought about putting some
POxy around the stade of the frame and sticking it.
What do you think?

Speaker 4 (46:28):
Yeah, it's not a particularly attractive solution, though, is it,
Because in the end, you know, it's it's in the
middle of the house. And I kind of understand where
you're coming from. So we have an old fireplace in
the front lounge at our place. It's an old house
as well. And you know, we use different types of
heating now, so I don't often use the open fire,
but of course the chimney still doing what the chimney does.

(46:49):
It sucks hot air out. So when I'm heating the
house and I've got an unused fireplace with a chimney,
it's just sucking the heat out, which is what it's
doing at your place. So for a long time I
used to just hold a little board up there as
well over the winter, and it probably did very little,
but it felt like I was doing the right thing.
What I ended up buying is a chimney balloon, right,

(47:14):
and I found it online. I think I ended up
ordering it from the UK, so it got sent out
and it's a kind of a durable almost like it. Sorry,
I had to ship it in. I don't know if
there's anyone tell you what it'd be a here's a
free tip for someone who wants to be a bit entrepreneurial.
Get into the businesses of importing these chimney balloons. So

(47:37):
what it is when you unpack it, it's like a
pillow slip, right, if you imagine the size of a
pillow slip, and it's got a nozzle on it with
a valve that you can turn on and off. So
what you do is you I partially inflated it, put
it inside the chimney, so in through the fireplace opening
just above. There's always a bit of a lip at
the back of it that helps the fire draw, so

(47:58):
you just push it slightly above there, and then I
actually used the little portable inflator and I pumped it
up until I felt that it was real reasonably firm,
and it seals all of the gaps around the chimney right.
So now from the outside it doesn't look any different,
so it still looks like an open fire, but it's
effectively sealed. I guess the only thing you have to

(48:21):
remember is if you ever wanted to have a fire,
you've got to remember to take the fire the chimney
balloon out, So that might be an option for you.
The other more longer term fix would be possibly to
get a roof to come and actually make you a
cap for the top of the chimney and actually seal
the chimney off at the top. But yeah, they are

(48:41):
a bit of an issue because lots of houses still
have chimneys and in wintertime, all they're doing is robbing
you of the heat that you've spent money to create.

Speaker 9 (48:52):
And it's just one other thing.

Speaker 18 (48:54):
I have.

Speaker 9 (48:57):
A satellite on my roof and it's broken, so I
don't even need satellite, you know, at all. But would
I get someone to take that down?

Speaker 4 (49:12):
I mean, if it's not like causing a problem, you
don't have to take it down, But typically they just
take screwed through the roofing material, hopefully into a perlin.
Oh yeah, absolutely no, get someone to take it down.
But then, of course you've got a hole in your roof.
So whoever takes it down needs well because the bracket
is screwed through into the peerlins, right, so screwed through

(49:32):
the islands of the peerlin. So when you take those out,
either put the screw back in the hole because it
should have a little neoprene washer in it so that'll
seal itself. Or that's probably actually the best solution, take
the bracket off, put the screw back and make sure
it's got a washer around it. Or if you don't
want to see the screw there, you can take it
out and apply some sealent. But I actually think the
better option is just leave the screw in place. But

(49:54):
just take the bracket away.

Speaker 9 (49:56):
Yeah, that's really nice advice.

Speaker 4 (49:59):
Thank you very much, No trouble at all. All the
very best to you. Take care see O Cake. By then,
I'm just looking online. I don't know if there's another solution.
Maybe there is, but chimney balloon dot co dot uk
is I'm pretty sure that's where I got mine. And
I to be really embarrassingly true, I think I bought

(50:20):
it like a year ago, but I only installed it
a couple of months ago when the weather got cold,
and it took a couple of minutes to do. And
it's in there and it seems to be working. So
chimney balloon. If you've got an old chimney that you're
not using, an open flyer that you're not using, and
you are heating your house, then you're just losing all
of that heat through the chimney. So block it off
by putting in a chimney balloon. If there's a local source,

(50:41):
please let me know. But hey, it worked, and I
quite like solutions that work. It is coming up sixteen
minutes after seven. I do want to make a comment
in a moment which is a fairly technical and a
little bit long, winded, but I think quite important about

(51:05):
the online calculator for the Healthy homes heating requirements, particularly
when it comes to applying that to apartments. We'll do
that shortly, but first up, Jared, Greetings.

Speaker 16 (51:18):
Good morning, Mike. How are you, Pete?

Speaker 4 (51:20):
And I'm very well, thank you.

Speaker 16 (51:23):
That's good.

Speaker 5 (51:24):
Got the name wrong, that's quite right.

Speaker 16 (51:26):
I've got color steel spouting on a twelve thirteen year
old house, and it's corroding and places on the inside
of the spouting where I presume I've used cut off
saws to cut the roofing to link and the firelings

(51:48):
have been left there and cause some areas of the
internal spouting to us just we spots and bubbles. And
I was wondering if you had anything in this solution
of mind would be the best.

Speaker 4 (52:03):
Has the corrosion gone all the way through so obviously
from the underside you can see it, or is it
just visible inside the spouting?

Speaker 16 (52:11):
Just visible?

Speaker 4 (52:12):
Okay? All right, it's reasonably okay to get up there,
like you can be up there for half an hour
trying to fix it. Or is it a bit precarious?

Speaker 14 (52:23):
Okay, get up on a ladder whatever, all.

Speaker 4 (52:26):
Right, and it's extensive or just in some spots.

Speaker 14 (52:32):
It's really the extensive. Actually it's more so on some
spots than other. I suppose it would extend for about
two meters I suppose in some areas.

Speaker 4 (52:42):
Ah okay, right, yeah, Well, I guess the first thing
to do is to treat the rust, which you know,
if you can get in there with the wirebrush, remove
most of it, and then probably use like a rust
converter that will then neutralize the rust. And then you've
got a couple of options. One would be to apply
some rust kill primers, and there's a bunch of those

(53:06):
around there, and then just paint the inside of it.
The other option would be actually, it's a product we're
going to be talking about shortly that I used on
a little flat roof, which is a waterproof coating. It's
a silicon membrane flexible membrane that you can apply called
juris in juris so E N d U r I S,

(53:32):
which you could apply to the inside and it will
you know, it'll cover any small holes and it will
just give you it'll extend the life considerably, I would
imagine if that's spouting. So treat the rust primate and
then coat with either with a paint if you wanted to,
or with something like the silicon coating.

Speaker 16 (53:50):
This indurious, okay, that it could be worth a try.

Speaker 14 (53:56):
As I say, nothing has comes through underneath that.

Speaker 16 (54:00):
You can just see these nige you're sitting on top
of the internal.

Speaker 14 (54:05):
Right through the paint what it called pre painted color steel.

Speaker 4 (54:11):
Yeah, yep, so on that sort of that primer coat
that's on the inside, you'll see the rust starting to
sit there. Frustrating though, isn't it when you think you know,
it doesn't like it's a real I I'd be really
disappointed in the original contractor if they used hot cutting
on any type of pre coated steel, because that's a

(54:33):
no no.

Speaker 10 (54:34):
Right.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
Doing that is a is a no no. And it's
amazing how far those sparks effectively go if you're using
a grinder to cut metal outside. I've made and I
know this from my own harsh experience, I've made some
stupid mistakes over the years where I've thought I'll just
get the old cutoff blade in the grinder and hack

(54:56):
that off, and then I've you know, a couple of
weeks later, suddenly there's rought spots all over the place.
And I'm like, oh, that was me, your muppet. So
hopefully I've learned my lesson. Had years ago we did
a job where we had to cut a handrail down
and the boys used a grinder with a cutoff blade
to cut through the handrail, but the sparks ended up

(55:18):
going against the glass of a big sliding door and embedding.
The hot sparks ended up embedding on the surface of
the glass and when I found I saw it the
next day and I'm like, oh you. Thankfully we're actually
able to get those nervous guys who do the windscreen repairs.
They came and ground the surface of the glass back

(55:39):
and got rid of the sparks, but it was still
terribly embarrassing. I have to say, there you go. It's
all out in the open now. Yeah, it does happen.

Speaker 14 (55:49):
There was just one other the silicon they used on
the joints. Yes, I think what has happened that the
previous owners had never cleaned the spouting out and there's
been an accumulation of silk and it seems to have
lifted the silk and on the joint and about the

(56:09):
leaking on the corners right, because the silicon has absolutely had,
and I just wondered what would be the best way
of going about fixing that or replacing that silicon somehow?

Speaker 4 (56:22):
Look to be fair if if like, if you're going
to use that Injurius coating, you could apply that through
the corner and it's sort out the corner as well,
right over the top of over the top of the
existing silicon. It wouldn't matter, right, Yeah, So check it
out online. All the best, Thank you, take care. I

(56:46):
think the work to do, and look, it's that thing
of being up on the ladder. I've got one job
to do this week, which is sort of trying to
address an issue with some windows on the second floor,
and I need to get a letter. I tell you,
he's can I ask your advice if anyone knows where
I can get those safety steps not safety step, they're

(57:07):
like a mat that you put on the ground to
stop your extension ladder slipping away at the bottom. If
there's somewhere that you know where you can get them
at a reasonable price, let me know, because I want
to buy one of those. I'm just thinking about being
up there on the top of the extension ladder. I'll
probably be about three meters in the air, leaning against
the house. And it happened to me once climbing onto

(57:30):
a roof where I had set up the extension ladder,
was climbing up. It was sitting on the deck. The
deck was wet and the bottom of the ladder slipped
out and I went straight down. I'm just I don't
want that to happen again. So if you know where
I can get one of those, let me know please. Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
It is twenty two minutes after seven, so it's two

(57:51):
way conversation. You can help me out as well. Eight
hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. If
you've got a building question, call us right now.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
Helping you get those DIY projects done right. The resident
Filder with Peter WOLFCAF call oh eight hundred and eighty
talk ZV.

Speaker 4 (58:09):
You and you talk CB. Someone's just text and rust.
Spots in the gutter likely aren't from the cutting. Yeah,
I think it's unlikely too. They'll be from the screws
that the installation. The screw has drilled like tip that
makes its own hole, which leaves the cutting behind the swarf.
General procedure is to use a blower at the end
of the day to get it off the roof. Is
one night of jew is enough to cause those rust spots. Unfortunately,

(58:30):
contracts of contractors often leave it there. It's not uncommon,
especially as more builders hang the gutters before the roofing.
That's often the case now the sort of external facure
and the spouting goes up and then the roofing goes on.
So if there's any swarf on the roof from drilling
through your fixings, that tends to end up in the gutter.

(58:51):
And then while they might blow it down from the roof,
maybe not that many roofs then go through and make
sure that they've cleaned out the spouting to ensure that
that swarf doesn't sit there causing rust. Thanks very much
for that, Chris, much appreciate it.

Speaker 18 (59:07):
I do want to make.

Speaker 4 (59:07):
Sure I talk about this Healthy homes Heating Assessment tool
online in my recent experience with it. I'll try and
do that shortly. Christine, Hello there, Hello, Hi Peter, I
haven't called you before. Well, I'm delighted you have, thank
you and welcome.

Speaker 10 (59:28):
Thank you.

Speaker 11 (59:31):
I'm just wondering your thoughts on putting in dvs.

Speaker 19 (59:38):
Into your home.

Speaker 11 (59:39):
Yep, well, I guess it versus the other one?

Speaker 9 (59:44):
What is it?

Speaker 4 (59:45):
H is the other common brand that you're probably thinking of?
Can Can I sort of widen the discussion a little bit, right,
So rather than speak specifically about either of those two brands,
there's a growing awareness of that one of the one

(01:00:06):
of the areas where our houses fail is that we
don't do adequate ventilation. And I know sometimes that discussion
often becomes will just open a window, but for a
lot of different reasons, people may not want to do that.
Or you know, if it's cold and windy, then you
don't want to open a window because you're going to
let all of that inside. Right, So let's get rid

(01:00:27):
of the excuses for not doing ventilation and look at
the fact that ventilation, proper mechanical ventilation, well designed and
well installed, is a benefit to almost every house.

Speaker 18 (01:00:38):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:00:40):
Doesn't mean that you don't open the doors and windows
when you can, but it allows for ventilation to happen
when those things can't happen. So I think you've got
to look at what's really effective about ventilation, Drawing air
from outside and ideally passing it over a heat exchanger

(01:01:00):
and then pushing it into the dry areas of the
house and having a system that also extracts from what
we might call the moist areas or the wet areas
of the house kitchens, laundries, bathrooms is probably the best system.
So I think if you're going to engage with a
contractor about that, you want to make sure that you're

(01:01:20):
getting independent advice, and you want to make sure that
they've got a really good knowledge of where where the
ventilation system will be most how it's going to be
installed to give you the greatest benefit. And I think
you probably are thinking, well, if I put one of
these systems in, it'll make it warmer. I've never really

(01:01:44):
thought that they are tremendously effective in terms of actually
creating warmth. But where they are effective is because they
help reduce the moisture content inside the house. The house
is able. You know, warming dry air is easier than
warming moist air. So if you've got air that's heavy
with moisture inside your house, that's going to be harder

(01:02:07):
to heat. And the way that you can move that
around and extract that is by having a really effective
ventilation system. So and like there's a lot of discussion
at the moment about installing continuous flow extraction, let's say
in bathrooms and so on. So rather than having an
extraction fan that you turn on and it runs for

(01:02:30):
a period of time and then typically we turn it off,
they are systems that will monitor the amount of moisture
detected the humidity in the room, for example, and then
they will ramp up when that you know, when you
hop into the shower and you're generating lots of moist
air and then but they will continue to run at
a lower level all through the day, and that helps

(01:02:52):
create a situation where if you know, imagine if you've
got a little extractor in the bathroom that is running constantly,
what it's doing is drawing air from the rest of
the house and expelling it all through the day, and
that that increases ventilation and inevitably you'll have air sort
of filtering into the house through gaps and cracks. Ideally

(01:03:12):
we want to control that. But even if we're not
controlling it, but we're extracting it continuously, that's a benefit.
So it is like, I know people that this is
their life's work, right talking about ventilation, extraction, air quality.
So let's let's not try and make it a simple
solution when it is both simple and very very complex

(01:03:35):
at the same time. So I'd encourage you to do
lots and lots of reading and research before you make
a decision.

Speaker 9 (01:03:41):
All right, I.

Speaker 11 (01:03:43):
Have. I have done some reading, and I am perplexed
about the whole thing. Sure, sorry, but I'm a free
you know. I love the windows open when I can.
I've had double closed the whole place as well, and
just about to put some more insulation. So I guess

(01:04:09):
going down that pathway might be best while I'm reading
about the other one.

Speaker 4 (01:04:15):
I tell you what you know, because one of these
things with doing some research and some reading is you've
got to make sure you're reading the right stuff, right.
So I've just done a quick search just out of curiosity,
because you know, if you want some really good information,
go to reputable sources. So I would suggest that you
have a look at the brand's website. That's b r

(01:04:38):
A n Z so, the Building Research Authority of New Zealand.
They have got a whole lot of information about ventilation
on their website and it's really really good information. Okay,
have a look there and good luck.

Speaker 6 (01:04:54):
But do you go ahead with it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:56):
Don't don't let me put you off by trying to
make it sound complicated. Get some really good ventilation and
it would be great. But yeah, you've got to talk
to the right person and they've got to know what
they're talking about, not just selling you a system for
the hell of it. All right, ye, lovely to talk
to you. Thank you very much for calling you all

(01:05:16):
the very best, take care loving those conversations. Oh eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Matter twice God was but maybe called Pete first for
your walk care. The resident builder news Talk said, be your.

Speaker 4 (01:05:31):
News talks hed b and let me see six thirty
seven thirty six pardon me here at Newstalks the b
Allen good morning.

Speaker 7 (01:05:38):
Good morning, how are you?

Speaker 4 (01:05:40):
Goodness?

Speaker 7 (01:05:42):
What's up, Nasal. I've got a wheelchair ram now to
say something about that DHD later on. I've got a
wheelchair ram. And when you walk up and down, if
you're not in the wheelchair, it's gets slippery. Yep, because

(01:06:07):
it's under one roof on my back carboard. It is
on the roof is on a possibly a sixth degree angle,
and the house roof there's a bathroom, there's there's possibly
about thirty thirty degrees, which leaves a gap getting from

(01:06:30):
nothing down to quite a bit of fot say, but
there again the rain comes in where you walk down
the side out the back of a bathroom too. What
can I do with it?

Speaker 4 (01:06:45):
What's the REMP made out of.

Speaker 18 (01:06:48):
Timber?

Speaker 4 (01:06:48):
Timber and so timber framing with timber decking on top of.

Speaker 7 (01:06:52):
It four to one tip. Yeah, there's fourber ones and
there's little slots in between. There's a gap between each board.

Speaker 17 (01:07:01):
Two yes.

Speaker 4 (01:07:03):
And so they've used what they call a grip treade decking,
and they've done the grooved side up, which is kind
of all of the right thing to do.

Speaker 20 (01:07:11):
But it's just ordinary form rough storm four one.

Speaker 7 (01:07:21):
Yeah, tantalized danalized, Yeah, rough sor yeah, it's just rough.
But as great as you walking onland all the time,
it's getting smooth.

Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
I was going to say, did did you have this
built for you or did someone come and build it
for you? Or was it there when you moved in?

Speaker 7 (01:07:44):
I had to come in, but I helped helped him.

Speaker 4 (01:07:51):
To be fair, I wouldn't be very happy with him,
you know, I mean doing using some rough storm. Timber
is decking on an accessibility ramp is pretty poor. Did
did they get any funding like through acc or anything
like that for the work that they did?

Speaker 7 (01:08:11):
I think them hospital why come to something some arrangement.

Speaker 4 (01:08:14):
Yeah, that's a bit of a waste of money. Okay, Look,
the most straightforward solution is going to be something along
the lines of plastic mesh that you'll staple down over
the top, right you see it. Lots of sort of
boardwalks and our you know, public forests and public spaces

(01:08:35):
sometimes will have that on it. And essentially it's just
a way of creating a slip resistant surface to an
existing timber surface. So you know, stainless steel, horseshoe nails,
stainless steel staples to fix it down. Mesh, the right
type of mesh, the right durability and so on, so

(01:08:56):
it can't be too lightweight, and just fix that down
over the top would be the most straightforward fixed. But
I have to say that's it. You know, it sounds
like it's disappointing bit of work to be blunted.

Speaker 7 (01:09:10):
All right, Can I make a suggestion?

Speaker 4 (01:09:12):
Go for it?

Speaker 7 (01:09:14):
I was thinking of.

Speaker 21 (01:09:18):
Putting another beam down underneath the beam that's there and
putting some fly we're on it, and as you're on
that beam, your hang down in media, make a stud
in mid air off the top.

Speaker 7 (01:09:39):
Beam and the run you put in and extended one
hundred miles down and put a put a four we
two at right angles.

Speaker 4 (01:09:53):
So that's that's more about trying to stop the ramp
from getting wet by closing the gap between the two roofs,
right and look, that would help, but it doesn't. In
the event that the deck gets wet, the deck is
still going to be slippery, right, So yes, you could
do what you're thinking about doing, and if that works, that's.

Speaker 20 (01:10:12):
Great flashing over the bathroom, but it's yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:10:26):
Look that would probably you know, if the deck stays dry,
then the deck is going to be less slippery. But
inevitably these things get wet, and so I would kind
of focus on dealing with the issue, which is that
it's the type of timber that's been used I don't
think is suitable. And yes, it is going to get slippery,
and you could do it with a mesh. There are

(01:10:49):
more sort of you know, detailed solutions. I was looking
at some non slip mats the other day that you
could fix down. They're like a fiberglass mesh type thing
or a non slip mat that you could fix down
over the top that would give you a permanent surface,
So that would be another option as well. So there
are solutions for it. It'll either be a mesh or

(01:11:11):
it'll be a mat of some description. But again, not
wanting to go on about it. It's kind of disappointing
if somebody, especially if somebody's got basically taxpayer money to
go and do a job like that for you, and
then they've done a basically rubbish job, it's a bit annoying.
Good luck with all of that. Alan, Oh, eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Can

(01:11:31):
I just take I'm hoping that this is only going
to take a minute. But it's been a quite interesting
little investigation that I've been part of over the last
six weeks or so. It's particularly pertinent because the deadline
for all of the Healthy Homes compliance starts on Tuesday,
the first of July. So if you were a landlord

(01:11:53):
and you had a property and you needed to ensure
that it was up to Healthy Home standards, there had
always been sort of some exemptions right, if it was
a sitting tendency all the rest of it, you could
delay it. There are no more delays from the of July,
which is Tuesday. All residential residential rental properties need to
comply with the Healthy Home standards. A key part of

(01:12:15):
that is the heating requirement. And if you've worked through
this yourself as a landlord or maybe you're doing these assessments,
typically you'll use the heating calculator which is on the
Tenancy Services website, So do a quick online search. You'll
find it and then it steps you through a process

(01:12:35):
so you will measure the space. So the requirement is
that you need to achieve it's either eighteen or twenty
degrees on the coldest day and your climatic zone in
the living space, just the living space of the house,
and you have to achieve a heating requirement. It'll the
calculation will allow you to get a number kill a

(01:12:57):
what hours, and that's the amount of heating that you
need to have in that space. If you're a landlord,
you should have done this. If you're a tenant, you
should have been given Healthy Home certificate when you started
your residential tendency. It's part of your tenancy agreement. So
literally every single property in the country residential tendancy should

(01:13:18):
have heating calculation done on it and the tool. I've
used the tool a number of times in conventional residential properties,
you know, either a standalone building or semi detached block
of flats, that sort of thing, and I think the
tool works reasonably well. I was asked by some people
that own an apartment to have a look at their

(01:13:41):
heating assessment because they had done a heating assessment it
had told them that in the apartment, which had a
living space of about forty eight square meters, that they
required four point four killer watts of heating. As it happens,
what they went and did was by two high quality
electric wall heaters that were fixed to the wall so

(01:14:04):
they couldn't be moved around, and that each of those
was two point four kilowatts, So that gave them four
point eight kilowatts of heating for that space, and they
thought that they then complied with the regulation. Turns out
that there is part of the regulation that says that
if you need a heating requirement of more than two
point four kilowatts of heating, that can only be a

(01:14:27):
heat pump, so they're electric heating. While it provided them
with the heating, didn't comply with all of the legislation
because it wasn't a heat pump, which meant that after
spending the money on the electric heaters, they now had
to literally take those away or not use them and
install a heat pump in order to comply with the

(01:14:47):
looming deadline. This is an apartment, right, So it's an
apartment like there are tens of thousands of them around
the country and more of them to come. There is
a habitable space below, there is a habitable space. Above
there is a habitable a space on many of the
adjoining walls end tenancy wall. So I went did a

(01:15:08):
measure up, calculated the floor space, measured the outside wall,
measured the size of the window, which was a standard
sliding door with some single glazing aluminium conventional aluminium, went
away and used the heating tool. But to be fair
and to be really honest, I faked the numbers right.
So I looked at it and said, well, actually, the

(01:15:29):
floor is not like a floor of a conventional building
where the outside space is unconditioned. It can get really
cold because below this apartment is another apartment, and even
it was uninhabited, it's unlikely to get below I don't know,
fifteen sixteen degrees, maybe ten twelve degrees at the very coldest,
if it was uninhabited for a period of time. But again,

(01:15:51):
in reality, most of the time someone's living there, they're
warming their place. Your place benefits and the heat that
you create benefits the person above. So there's a unit above,
there's a unit below, there's units on two sides of
this particular building. So I kind of use the tool,
but I faked the numbers. I'll be really honest, I
or fudge the numbers to reflect what I thought was

(01:16:11):
a real world performance. And so by using the online tool,
I got to a number of one point two killer
watts of heating. It's considerably less than four point four
and less again than three point two. But of course
I can't use those numbers to provide that evidence for
a healthy homes assessment because obviously I had manipulated the

(01:16:33):
numbers for a real world experience. So we went off
to a basically a consultant who specializes an energy modeling
of residential properties, gave them all the details. They created
a very complex and detailed energy model for that dwelling,
and their findings came back the other day. The interesting

(01:16:56):
thing is the requirement that they determine. This is highly
scientific using very good data. So bearing in mind the
requirement initially was found to be four point four then
the other review said three point six. I did my
dodgy science and got it down to about one point
two killo watts of heating required. The actual scientific requirement

(01:17:20):
for the heating of that particular apartment ended up being
zero point five seven killer watts of heating. So that's
easily achieved by the electric heaters that they've got and
as a real willed analysis of the requirements of that space.

(01:17:43):
And I sat there and I looked at the email
the other day, and I looked at the report. I
know the people who did it. I've been to the apartment,
and it makes sense to me. The concern now is
that if you are a landlord of an apartment, or
you're the property manager of an apartment, or you do
healthy homes assessments and you use the online calculator that

(01:18:06):
it's available through tendency services, you're going to get a
number that doesn't actually I don't know how to put this,
but doesn't really make sense in terms of what's actually required.
So the tool doesn't have the nuance to allow for apartments.
And I know that this has been discussed sort of

(01:18:27):
in building circles for a couple of years now that
the tool is designed for typical residential buildings, and I
have some sympathy for the government in terms of trying
to figure out, let's give them a tool that will
work for most situations, but it doesn't work for apartments.
So I can't put that any other way. It just
doesn't work for apartments. So the only way for a

(01:18:50):
landlord potentially or an apartment owner who is renting that
apartment out to get an accurate thing is to go
off and get an independent heating assessment done, which most won't.
So potentially we're getting assessments done, creating higher numbers than
we need and putting in potentially putting in some heat

(01:19:11):
pumps and places we don't need them, or providing far
more heating than's actually realistically required. You may care to comic.
I found the whole process absolutely fascinating. Right, we're going
to take a short break. That's my rent over It
is coming up nine minutes away. From eight that I'd
love to take your calls on that particular issue. If
you want to take some exception to what I'm saying,

(01:19:32):
by all means, give me a call. Oh, eight hundred
eighty ten eighty is the number.

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
Doing of the house sorting the garden, asked Pete for
ahead the resident builder with Peter Wolfcap call eight News
Dog ZV A couple of minutes away.

Speaker 4 (01:19:46):
From News top of the hour. Yes, great song, but
a little bit early. I think maybe maybe we'll grab
another call. Hey Stanley, good morning to you.

Speaker 10 (01:20:00):
Oh yes, look, good morning Pete. Now I have a
suggestion for people with open fireplaces and you're talking about,
you know, the air escaping up the chimney. Ye get
a set of louvers, detachable louvers that fit over it,
nice attractive ones, and then keep them shut most of

(01:20:22):
the time. But in the summer when.

Speaker 4 (01:20:25):
You want the cooling, Yes, open them up.

Speaker 10 (01:20:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:20:31):
Not a bad idea. I like my chimney balloon more.
But I hear what you're saying, because.

Speaker 10 (01:20:36):
Because you can get you know, the nice attractive ones
made yea to match the decore of the room, you know, the.

Speaker 4 (01:20:49):
Look you know. I think the main thing is that
what we're doing as people are aware that you know,
and lots and lots of so many older New Zealand houses, villas, bungalows,
et cetera. Many have fireplaces right and and not that
many of us use the fireplace anymore. So you can
either do the retrofit and install more energy efficient heating

(01:21:12):
system into them and then seal the roof with a
flashing at the top with the new ducting running out
through there, or if you just leave them and don't
do anything, then they just end up sucking out heat.
So I'm kind of pleased that we've we've dealt with
that issue hopefully. Last week on the show, we ended

(01:21:34):
up talking a lot about cleaning toilets. I did get
a Texas Morning from someone who used a bag of
salt this was one of the discussion points from last
week on the show, and said it worked to treat.
I actually went out and bought a bag of salt,
but didn't actually get round of to do it. So
it's a reminder. Someone's my comment. Someone's just texted and said, hey,

(01:22:02):
look I used the tool a couple of weeks ago.
One of the first sections asked, it's an apartment. I
agree with you. It does ask if it's an apartment,
but it still doesn't give you a real world result
is my comic. So yeah, I'm aware that it does,
and it factors it in. I just don't think it
weights it enough. And now I've got proof, right he Oh,

(01:22:25):
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It is.

Speaker 4 (01:22:48):
Let me say six minutes almost seven minutes after eight
wheel talk all things building constructions through at eight thirty.
At eight thirty, the Red Climb Pass will be with
us and will jump into the garden. So any of
your gardening or entomological questions you can address them to
Red from eight thirty this morning. But right now we'll
continue you talking building construction. And I've got a flood

(01:23:10):
of texts which is awesome about my comments about the
heating requirements for healthy homes as applied to apartments in particular,
and if you use the Online Tool, which is the
tool that we're all encouraged to use by Tendency Services. Basically,
I don't think it's nuanced enough to give you a

(01:23:32):
realistic view. And I've had a number of people text
in saying, you know that they've used it and they've
ended up with similar results where they're getting really high requirements,
you know, three four killer watts of heating for an apartment.
Where do you go, Well, you can do what my
clients ended up doing, partly on my recommendation and finding

(01:23:56):
basically a building survey or a building scientist who can
undertake a proper basically energy modeling of the space to
determine what heating requirement you need to achieve the objective,
and the objective is to make sure that the building
can be twenty degrees on the coldest day of the year.

(01:24:17):
So how you achieve that you have to be able
to prove it. Typically we go to the tool online
tool to prove it. I think the online tool, even
though you can select apartments, is still not nuanced enough
to give you a real figure that's a realistic figure.
So this is going to be a bit of a challenge. George,

(01:24:38):
A very good morning to you.

Speaker 18 (01:24:40):
Yeah, George, we've got a reasonably modern house with a
corrugated iron roof which is pitched, and we have a
range hood which leaks water down through the center of it,
which is going over the motor. It drips onto the stovetop,

(01:25:00):
and we've had a plumberh instored it out and he
thought it might have been to do with a flashing,
and he with that, but no nothing there. So I
suggested to him, because it was about or maybe a
foot above the roof, that maybe rain was splashing up
into the mushroom dome and coming down. So he raised

(01:25:21):
it up probably another half meter, pretty high up the roof.
But we've still got water coming down through the chimney part.
So yesterday I went up into the ceiling and just
to see whether in fact it could have been the flashing.
But there's no water at all around the outside of
that chimney part. So could it be Capello reaction pets

(01:25:44):
that's taking the water back up under the mushroom part
and coming down.

Speaker 4 (01:25:50):
No, I think that what you're getting is condensation, right,
So it's not a leak, it's condensation.

Speaker 18 (01:26:01):
Really, there's quite a bit of water comes down.

Speaker 4 (01:26:05):
Well, if you know. So essentially what you're getting is
the water is inside the ducting, right, and you're seeing
it at the range hood.

Speaker 18 (01:26:15):
Correct there, stripping onto the those top.

Speaker 10 (01:26:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:26:18):
So when you go up into the roof space and
you look around the exterior of the ducting and the
flashing and you don't see any moisture, then you go, Okay,
the water is getting in into the ducting somewhere. So
you go onto the roof. The plumber has extended that
ducting up and then they've they've got a mushroom on
top of it. And you know, water, water can do

(01:26:40):
interesting things. But and yes, I've seen it drive upwards,
but it typically has to have something that it's on
in order for it to be driven up. So I
know what those mushrooms look like. I think it'd be
really unlikely that that wind driven rain is going to
go nip underneath the mushroom up over the lip and inside,
and potentially by extending the length of that uninsulated ducting

(01:27:06):
through the roof, you're actually creating more condensation.

Speaker 18 (01:27:11):
Really, that's quite interesting. Yes, it doesn't need to have
any wind. In fact, it doesn't even have to rain hard.
But in saying that, when it's cold. We're in central Target,
and I mean in the winter it's cold, we can
be really cold, but we don't get any condensation even
when we've got cold fog. I would have.

Speaker 4 (01:27:33):
Imagined anywhere else in the house.

Speaker 18 (01:27:36):
I no, no, I've got a really dry house. But
what I'm suggesting to you is if it was condensation,
then when it's cold and foggy outside, why are we
not getting condensation dripping out?

Speaker 4 (01:27:48):
Then it really well, condensation occurs when you've got the
right combination of features, right, So you've got moisture laid
in the air that attaches to a cold surface. So
when it's if it's cold outside, you've got an uninsulated
metal tube, right, and then you've got moisture inside your house,

(01:28:10):
which is your house always will have a certain amount
of moisture that's then being effectively drawn to the rain
hood because it's open, right, so it's extracting. Even when
it's turned off, it's still open, right, so air is
still flowing there. I'm wondering whether it's the the air
that's inside your house that's going up the ducting And

(01:28:31):
because like most of us, for our range hoods, it'd
be in a kitchen unit. It would go up and
it would go straight through the wall, or would go
up and it would go across in some flexible ducting
through the back of the units and out through the wall.
But because yours goes through the roof, you've got this
metal tube that extends up and of course at the
top it's going to be cold on the outside with

(01:28:51):
moisture on the inside. That air is going up, and
that moisture is then hitting the side of the tube,
turning into conensate and dripping back down again. That's what
I think is is that's what I think is most
likely to happen if there's no other leak and you
have me able to find a leak.

Speaker 18 (01:29:10):
No, Yeah, why would it not be a common problem
in Pete?

Speaker 4 (01:29:15):
To be fear not that many range hoods ducked through
the roof. Most range shoulds tend to duck through the walls.
I mean, I've got some ducting for a laundry that
goes vertically, but it's a much shorter run and so
I haven't to be fair, I haven't been into check
whether there might be some condensation in there, but it
would be interesting to you know, if there's someone like

(01:29:36):
an eco advisor in your area kind it would be
quite interesting to see if they would give you a
bit of advice on that. But I would investigate the
condensation if there's no obvious leak.

Speaker 18 (01:29:47):
Right, okay, thank you for that. My pleasure with trains
for the heat traits, for the assistant that people have
talked about it. We've got one in our house. As
there is we knew how so, I said, and as
by a wood burner in the ceiling which are an
open sort of an event thing, and in our three
bedrooms we have a.

Speaker 17 (01:30:06):
An outlet and grew up to.

Speaker 18 (01:30:08):
Stop the coming out. Well, when we first moved in here,
it was the most useless thing you can imagine. Turned
on the power and nothing happened. So I actually got
up into the ceiling then and found that where the
motor was and the conducting the tube had come off heat.

(01:30:33):
It wasn't fast numbery well, it was really just taken
on a couple of years later, we don't use it
because we don't want the vedoms to be too hot.
But a couple of years later, when I was up
yesterday having a look at this other range or thing,
I had a look again and where the joint is
where it goes to the three bedrooms, another plastic unit there.

(01:30:55):
It just distributes it. It had come off, so it
seems that, you know, if people do find it not
re effected, it wouldn't be bad idea to have a
look up in the ceilings are still attached to what that's.

Speaker 4 (01:31:09):
Absolutely Hey, good on you for getting up there and
being really thorough with looking after your house. It's a
great idea, George, thank you very much. I might do
a bit of reading, in a bit of research about
it and see whether it is actually likely to be
the condensation your news talk zeb remember root climb passed
from Make thirty. It is eight fifteen news talk zebby
Today I'm talking with Murray Knight, Managing directors thinking Holymer's International,

(01:31:32):
and we're talking about in Juris. Good morning, Murray, tell
us what is in Juris?

Speaker 17 (01:31:37):
Good morning, Peak Well in Juris is one hundred percent
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wide variety of existing roof types. It forms a monolithic
and seamless membrane, stopping leaks and helps extend the life
of a roof. It has been used extensively for fifty

(01:31:57):
years and other markets, and we have been promoting the
in Juris in the New Zealand markets for the past
two years.

Speaker 4 (01:32:04):
So Murray, tell us what the key benefits are.

Speaker 17 (01:32:06):
Well, our view is why replacement you can restore and
the Injurius has many benefits. So I'll just run a
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can apply as a single coat. It cures quickly to
form a durable, seamless water type membrane that is breathable, waterproof,
and permanently flexible. It is u be stable and maintained

(01:32:27):
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(01:32:47):
microfiber rolla or brush or if it's a large job
that's spread on. It's also really easy to use. You
use it straight from the pail, no mixing required, and
it's rain proof in thirty minutes it's great for climates
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(01:33:07):
unaffected by standing water. And Jurius is a fast, efficient
and economical solution. So if you're looking for a sustainable
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(01:33:28):
the reflective index rating required to be classified as core roofing.

Speaker 4 (01:33:32):
That's some really helpful information. Now, if people want to
buy Injurius, where do they go?

Speaker 17 (01:33:37):
Well, you can visit our distributor, shellc Out New Zealand Limited.
They are at seven Woodson Place, Wira Valley. We'll give
them a call on eight hundred one two three nine hundred,
or if you want more information, you can just visit
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Speaker 4 (01:33:56):
And Marie, thanks for dropping a bucket out to me.
I've put it on. It's a small roof. I need
to extend its life for a bit and so far
no leaks really appreciate it. Thanks for your time, Murray,
Squeaky door or squeaky floor.

Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
Get the right advice from Peter Wolfcare, the resident builder
on Newstalks.

Speaker 4 (01:34:15):
NB your News TALKSB we're talking all things building construction.
A couple of useful suggestions for our previous caller, George
with the leak that might be coming from the ducting
that extends from the range hood through the roof, which
is you know, it's a it's not uncommon, but it's
also not terribly common. So a couple of people have said,

(01:34:38):
where are they about the seam orientation of the seam
on the duck. The rivets aren't waterproof. Physics works the
same way, so there you go. It might look it
might be an issue with the duck. Nine times out
of ten, it's usually the seam of the flu that's
not sealed from the range hood from JK and Dargavill

(01:35:00):
And actually a number of calls have said it's about
the seam of the ducting. So I have a look
at that, George, next time you're on the roof safely
Colin Greetings.

Speaker 19 (01:35:12):
Good morning, Hey, hey, just to ask your advice on
getting double blazing in. I've got a cup of quotes
come through next week for retro fit on an order
house which is at nineteen eighty six, and I'm just
not sure what I'm doing the right thing. I'm very
cold to you in the winter and very hot in

(01:35:32):
the summer, and it's a native frame cout so it
hasn't got anything that I can put that. Are they
still the heating through? I have two heat pumps, but
it's not working as well as I would like it too.
So I'm just wondering your ideas on retrofit double glazing.

Speaker 4 (01:35:49):
Okay, Well, look, I could declare an interest. For the
last ten years I've acted as a brand ambassador for
Metro Performance Glass, who do the retro double glazing, and
I do so because I know that double glazing is
a really good thing. Right, So the numbers don't like
single glazing units let out x amount of energy and

(01:36:09):
double glozing units end up letting out a considerable amount
less than that, so they do perform the sciences there,
So is double glazing good solution? Yes, And in a
house like yours where perhaps you know, if it's an
a frame, then you've got large.

Speaker 19 (01:36:26):
Amounts of Yeah. And Neil built home many many many
years ago, and the a frame that is the curse,
to be honest.

Speaker 4 (01:36:34):
But they're a challenging I know, but so yes, and look,
ideally you want to look at other things as well.
Can you add some insulation and have you got reasonable
insulation in the walls and the ceilings and the under floor.

Speaker 19 (01:36:47):
If you can put their phone about eight years ago.
It seems to work sort of too, about a couple
of great degrees.

Speaker 10 (01:36:56):
But note of that.

Speaker 4 (01:36:59):
So yes, you know all of the stuff that I've
read over a number of years now double glazing works, So.

Speaker 9 (01:37:06):
Thanks so much as well.

Speaker 4 (01:37:12):
Yeah, no, good on, good on, you take care of
calling all the best and Graham, Hello there, how are you?

Speaker 11 (01:37:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 22 (01:37:20):
Thanks Pete. Look what I'm sort of trying to get
to the bottom of and hopefully you can help me here.

Speaker 4 (01:37:32):
Oh oh, I think you're Siri or your AI has
listened to your conversation and once he wants to get involved. Anyway,
I'm not AI. I might not even be that intelligent,
but hey, let's let's have a crackit. What's Christian?

Speaker 22 (01:37:53):
Look, the problem is about eight years ago I had
nanoclear put on around my blue denim alumen and framing
for the windows indoors. Now, what's happened with this stuff?
It's flaked and it's like it's sort of become very scaly.

(01:38:15):
It's got sunburn given to it or something. I don't know,
but with the way these the window frames are, it's
looking to the stage of I don't know how to
treat treat it, to try and get it, get the
scaly stuff off, to repaint it. It's all very well,

(01:38:35):
sort of just throwing a bit of sandpaper over it. Look,
it's just not going to work.

Speaker 4 (01:38:39):
Graham. What I would suggest is I actually know the
guys or some of the people involved, So go back
to them, right, go directly back to them, ask them
to come out and have a look. If it's a problem,
they'll fix it and just go from there. So just
go straight back in touch with then OA clear, All right,
all this one, Take care, Bob then and Carl, greetings.

Speaker 23 (01:39:03):
Good morning. Thanks for tipping me in there. Yeah, just
about these healthy homes heating standards, I've done exactly the
same as you have. I've set there for days, poking.

Speaker 4 (01:39:13):
Numbers in for what type of building.

Speaker 23 (01:39:18):
Residential mainly units twenty five twenty seven square meters, and
it all comes out to a heat pump a regulation standard.

Speaker 4 (01:39:31):
Is in more than two point four kilotts of heating requires.

Speaker 23 (01:39:35):
You're going from a room that needed twenty four killer
watts twenty four hundred watts to heat it keep it
to that eighteen degrees standard. You go from that to
a six kilo heat pump under the recommendations of their
heating standard, which is absolutely crazy. And that's just for

(01:39:56):
a standard to bedroom unit unit in town. And the
main point you're missed is the the calculations that is
all grigged up to have heat pumps in every room
in the house and that's.

Speaker 4 (01:40:13):
Not required because the healthy Home standards for heating is
simply that you need it. But the requirement is that
you can achieve is eighteen or twenty degrees twenty degrees
in living space. Yeah, twenty degrees on the coldest on
what they assume is the coldest day of the year,

(01:40:34):
depending on your climatic zone.

Speaker 12 (01:40:37):
Right, the gug glader's rigged out to.

Speaker 23 (01:40:43):
Recommend a heat pump be put in.

Speaker 4 (01:40:47):
I'm not going to leak to that conclusion. If you
want to go there, you can. All I'm saying is
that in this particular instance, right, So this very specific
building that I've been involved with quite a bit over
the last couple of months, I went, I visited it,
I measured it, I used I looked at the Healthy

(01:41:08):
Homes assessments that have been done by two other people,
both of whom were not known to each other, So
two independent assessments producing two different results. Both of those
results it was either like three point six and four
point four heating requirement. And then I use the tool,
but I fudged the numbers. I'll be quite honest about that,

(01:41:29):
because if you're talking about a floor in an apartment,
it's not like a floor in a standard building, where
it might be an unconditioned space below right. It's even
if it was uninhabited, it's still going to perform differently
to an open space. So I kind of fudge them,
and I got a number of a heating requirement what
I felt intuitively based on my own experience, and that

(01:41:52):
it would probably be somewhere around one to one point two.
And that's roughly the number that I got. That confirmed
my suspicion that the tool is not nuanced enough to
deal with apartments. So we then sent it to an
end and qualified heating assessment basically heating scientist right for

(01:42:12):
one of a better term, who did energy modeling of
the building and came back with a figure, and that
figure was zero point five seven killer watts of heating required.
So what's going to be really interesting is that, I
guess for the property owner they can take that report
because you know, I mean, you'd have to have a

(01:42:33):
similar level of qualification to the person who wrote the
report in order to dispute the findings, right, And I
don't think most people involved in healthy Homes assessments have
that level of qualification, in which case there's some there's
credentials qualification and a result that would indicate zero point
five seven killer watts of heating is sufficient, and then

(01:42:55):
you attach that to the healthy Homes report and say
this is the figure that I'm using, and I'm going
to stand by that, and if you want to challenge it,
go and get your own building scientists to do a modeling.
So but you know, like I'm letting, it's the it's
the professionals, right who are doing this now, and that's
the result. And I think that's really really interesting, and

(01:43:16):
I think it's going to raise a lot of questions
around how we do the heating calculations for apartments in particular,
because again, and I hesitate to say this, I don't
think the existing online tool is nuanced enough to give
an accurate reading, is my opinion? Really appreciate you, Cal,
I think we might talk about this again next week

(01:43:38):
on the show, because right now I'm actually looking at
my ol box designs from Wingspan. So let's get into
the garden. Redclinb past on the way.

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