Full Show Podcast: 17 August 2025

On The Resident Builder with Pete Wolfkamp Full Show Podcast for 17th August 2025, Pete tackles questions around tiles and flooring, explains why building reports are a must for buyers, and discusses asbestos removal.

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp
from News Talk, Seat by Squeaky Door.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Or Squeaky Floor.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Get the right advice from Peter Wolfcamp, the Resident Builder
on news Talk seat by.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
The house sizzor who even when it's dark, even when
the grass is overgrown in the yard, and even when
the dog is too old to bar, and when you're
sitting at the table trying not to start scissor.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
Hole, even when we leave a ban, even when you're therellone.

Speaker 5 (01:01):
House sizzle hole, even when there's ghost even when you
go around from the ones you love, your.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Screamed broken pains, peeing in front of.

Speaker 5 (01:15):
Locals when they're leavings, even when Wilman, even when you're.

Speaker 6 (01:27):
In there alone, and a very very good morning, Welcome
along to the Resident Builder on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
You're with me, Peter wolf Camp, the Resident Builder, and
this is your opportunity to talk all things building. That's
all things building houses, all things building apartments, all things
building fences, decks. In my case yesterday, a temporary excess
ramp for a mate who'd basically broken his leg and

(02:02):
was going to find it very difficult to transition from
the entrance to to the front door, so it was like, hey,
can you find someone to do it? And to be fair,
it was in the end I had a little bit
of time on Saturday and grab some ply and some
timber and then trying to figure out how do you
make a platform that's level when the deck is falling
twenty five mil and then the ramp that comes off

(02:24):
the side of it has to fall at a certain rate,
but then it intersects with the slope of the deck
and that's got to be a smooth trendition. Anyway, it
was a nice little job. It was one of those
jobs made so much easier by the fact that I'd
finished another project just a day or so earlier, had
been able to have a cleanup in the workshop, and

(02:45):
my workbench, which is typically either covered in projects or
just stuff, was absolutely empty. So the workshop was tidy,
or my workspace was tidy, the bench was empty. It
was almost like it was waiting for me to do something,
and along came that job on a Saturday. So if
you are building something, maintaining something, renovating something about getting

(03:07):
new products, new ideas, working with contractors, anything to do
with owning or looking after your own home. Oh, eight
hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. You
can text, of course, that's nine two nine two or
zbzb from your mobile phone if you just want to
send a quick text. I do try and get to
most of those, but don't always get to every single one,

(03:28):
but hey, send them through. We'll have a crack at
that and you can email me if you like. That's
Peaked Pete at NEWSTALKSEB dot co dot Nz if you've
got something, particularly if you want every now and then
someone says, oh, I've tried to text you a picture,
which I know we all can from our mobile phones
these days, doesn't work with a text machine here, okay,

(03:49):
So if you need to send me a photograph of
something that's falling down, something that's rotting, something that's fallen off,
you can email that to me. That's Peaked at NEWSTALKSTB
dot co dot Nz Radio. Let's get into it because
it's a slightly shorter show. So much excitement in the
world of rugby that the Wallabies, I hope everyone knows

(04:11):
this came back from what were they twenty two zero
down after twenty minutes to beat the spring box? Was
it thirty eight or thirty nine to twenty two, so
phenomenal performance. I'm not sure whether that's a good thing
for the All Blacks ahead of the Argentina game. The
Argentina game, we hand over to the sports team at

(04:32):
eight forty five this morning, so Rudd will be with
us a little bit earlier. We'll try and give him
a decent amount of space. Ridd will join us a
bit earlier, just after eight twenty, and then we will
hand over to the sports commentary team from eight forty
five ahead of kickoff I think just a couple of
minutes after nine o'clock, so a slightly shorter show this morning,

(04:53):
but let's rip into it. So if you've got questions
of a building, nature, maintenance, renovations, alterations, just looking after
the place, you can give me a call right now
on eight hundred eighty ten eighty. If you are thinking
about lots of still lots of changes to legislation, so
maybe there's something out there that you're thinking about. You know,

(05:15):
when can I do it? Can I do it now?
I tell you what I'm a little bit curious about too,
particularly the announcement that was made by both David Seymour
and Chris Pink. This is sort of a response to
a tip from the Red Tape Tip Hop hotline. Apparently,

(05:38):
you know, why can't I put a garden shed right
up against the boundary? The rules have always been it
needs to be the height of the boundary, or the
height of the shed away from the boundary, or an
adjacent building. Which look, I don't think anyone ever did,
And if they did do it, they realized they were
losing a lot of space, so they tended to sneak
it back towards the fence. I'll put my hand up

(05:59):
to that as well. So now if it's less than
tens or up to ten square meters, it can go
harder to the boundary. Does that then mean that if
you've already got a shed that might be close to
the boundary, that it now becomes legal. I guess it does.
I don't think it's just for those sheds that might

(06:21):
be built after they're expecting the legislation come through towards
the end of the year. You may care to comment, Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call
if you've got a question of a building nature. We've
got things set up and ready to go. So the
lines are open. The number is eight hundred eighty ten eighty.
Remind me, I must tell you I went to what

(06:42):
felt like the Laddin's Cave of woodworking tools the other day. Well, no,
not really in the Laddin's Cave, because it wasn't free.
It was a store and it was absolutely freaking amazing.
It was fantastic. I'll tell you about that a little
bit later on. Robin, very good morning to you. Now
we going morning. I'm very well Robin yourself.

Speaker 7 (07:03):
I'm das just trying to sell my house at the moment.
And so they come up on a reporting a possibility
as the loss from the nineteen eighties house of in
nineteen twenty eight when they did a renovation two thousand
and nine. Would there have been a chance all that

(07:25):
stuff would have been picked up when they had to
do renovation through a council. I just can't to find
anything on any reports con find it.

Speaker 8 (07:35):
And so what do I do?

Speaker 9 (07:40):
See?

Speaker 2 (07:41):
It raises a couple of issues. One is around to
be blunt the professionalism of people doing pre purchase house inspections, right,
so you know, I mean it's a fair point to
say there could be asbestos in a property nineteen eighties.
I mean, the unfortunate thing is we were still using,

(08:04):
if not asbestos in the way that we tend to
imagine it. You know, sheets of a fiber cement type
product that had asbestos in it, but a lot, a
surprising and disturbing number of products are what they call ACM,
so asbestos containing material, and some asbestos was still coming
into New Zealand as late as two thousand, right, So

(08:25):
it's not a it's not a completely unrealistic question to ask.
But if your house is a nineteen eighties house in
what particular area did the pre purchase inspector say that
they had some concerns about asbestos? Where where did they
identify it?

Speaker 7 (08:43):
While they didn't say where, he just said he couldn't
identify the claning on the house when he went through,
he could have confirmed what the planning was, and just
the question open. I do know there was an extension
done two thousand and nine where they had to obviously

(09:05):
be a portion of that, and I just don't know
back two thousand and nine, was that the twok of
the century for where as we speak about it.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
To day, I think it would be very close to
when new legislation was introduced, but possibly just a little
bit before it, so there was kind of a directive
through WorkSafe, and there's there's new legislation that puts the
onus on determining whether or not the product is asbestos

(09:41):
or ACM, on the homeowner and in some degree on
the contractor. Right, So if you don't know, the responsibility
is on you to test. And that's that's sort of
how we all see it now. So for example, you know,
if you were going to a nineteen sixties bricantile that
had some sort of flat sheeting for this defeat, you'd go, actually,

(10:05):
given its age, given the type of material, it's worth testing. Right,
You test it, and then you determine how you're going
to proceed with drilling a hole for a new extraction fan. Right,
There's that sort of thing. So that's similar to what
you're talking about back in two thousand and seven. You
were saying two thousand and nine when they cut through
those weather boards. So I mean, look, if you had

(10:30):
a concern, you'd look at the weatherboard and go if
it's you know, if it's timber, we know there's not
a problem.

Speaker 10 (10:36):
Right.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
If it's a fiber cement board of some description, and
there's probably four or five different types of them. Then again,
if it's nineteen eighties, it's really unlikely that, but you
could test, right, see, I find that sort of thing
for it's it's risk averse to the point of being nonsensical.

(11:03):
Like I'm not diminishing the potential for harm from exposure
to asbestos, right, it is unbelievably awful way. Basically, it's
a really awful way to die, you know, as a
result of exposure to asbestos. So I'm not at all
saying you shouldn't be concerned, but in a report like that,

(11:26):
not being able to identify the cladding, you know, to
be fair, there's not that many types of cladding around.
You should be able to have at least a reasonable idea.
You could do a quick Google search and determine it.
So to leave something as open ended as that in
the report I think is a little bit unfair and
not terribly professional in my opinion. So look, I mean,

(11:50):
if you're going to sell the house and given that
it's on the report, and then potentially that's reports being
shared with the agent, the agent then has a duty
to disclose under their responsibilities you know, theoretically, every person
that comes through the house and ask the agent is
there a concern with it, the agent's going to have

(12:10):
to say, oh, by the way, I saw a report
that indicated there might be asbestos, right, I would suggest
that the simplest way is for you to remove a
section of that cladding, you know, maybe somewhere around the
back of the house or underneath a scriber that you
could put the scriber back on, take it to a lab,
get it tested, and then you know, yeah, obviously there's

(12:35):
a small risk with that. So for example, if it
did happen to come back as asbestos or ACM, you
would need to declare that to the person who's listening
your property. But if it comes back clear, which I
suspect is most likely, the great thing is you can say, yep,
I know that that was done. I've gone ahead, I've
been proactive, I've had a test done. He's the test results. Yeah,

(13:00):
you know, science is good. So I would run with that,
and good luck was selling the house. I know it's
still a bit of a funny old market.

Speaker 7 (13:11):
Oh no, it has only been off for two weeks,
and sorry being an opera on it, so bastudents of it,
so nice a lot around around our whole neighborhood and
there's like many hours is it the same build in
that same era, So I guess there will just be
the you know, it.

Speaker 11 (13:29):
Is what it is for the EU.

Speaker 7 (13:32):
Yeah, it's final.

Speaker 9 (13:35):
Done.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah, I think that's the safest spect robin. And the
other thing too, to really be clear on is that
asbestos when it's essentially inert, right, so it's on you
weather boards, it's got a coat of paint over the
top of it. There is there is basically zero risk, right.
The concern comes when, like when they were doing the renovation,
you take an angle grinder to it and you cut

(13:57):
through it and you're not wearing a mask and all
the rest of it, and you can and if there
were asbestos fibers in it, you inhaled those. That's where
the risk is. So when you cut it, drill it,
you know, break it, that sort of thing, the fibers
become airborne and that's the risk where they are on
your place right now, no risk whatsoever? All right, well,

(14:18):
very little risk.

Speaker 7 (14:19):
So where we replaced the windows, we didn't cut that.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
We're all just perfect.

Speaker 7 (14:28):
Decide to watch straight back in, so we didn't touch
or upset anything that was already original.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah, perfect, perfect, do some testing mate, all right, all
the best to you, take care see Robin bob o.
Then I keep forgetting I realize every now and then
I say, oh, I must talk to you about that
later on. Then I forget to do it and I
get angry texts about it. Where I went it was
actually a couple of weeks ago, and I kept meaning

(14:56):
to mention this' I'd seen something online right, a tool
that I didn't have, and I'm like, that looks awesome,
that could really useful. It was kind of like a
heavy metal ruler with a sliding stop on it, so
sort of like a marking gauge, but slightly different. Anyway,

(15:19):
I saw one and then I saw where they had them,
and I was off to visit Mum the other day
and I called into carb a Tech, which is out
in where are the Harris Road out in East Tarmaki.
Walked in there and I was like, oh my goodness, Like,
how am I going to leave here without buying way

(15:39):
more stuff than I thought I was going to buy. Anyway,
I got the sliding ruler or sliding Yeah. Ruler. I'll
get the right name for it off the website. Soon
found that found a little taper measuring gauge which is
super handy for trying to measure the gap of something,
and then actually found some replacement braces for my apron

(16:01):
as well. There. I was lucky to get out actually
and a delight full chat to the owners and talked
about woodworking and wood turning. Apparently New Zealand's like the
home of wood turning these days globally, and that whenever
these international wood turning competitions, New Zealanders are always exceptionally

(16:23):
well represented there. I think it's some like World wood
turning competition some time ago. Out of the top ten,
three came from New Zealand. And we make lathes here,
which is even more amazing as well. Anyway, look, if
you're into your tools, new tools, obviously I can't can't

(16:45):
recommend it highly enough. It was a fantastic day. Might
even make me visit mymum more. Oh, eight hundred eighty
ten eighty. It is twenty two minutes after six. We'll
be back with Pam after the.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Break, helping you get those DIY projects done right. The
resident builder with Peta wolfcaf call Oh eight hundred eighty
youth talksa'd be see.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Now, I'm kind of in trouble because during the break
I thought i'd go through the website to see if
i could find the proper name of the tool that
I've purchased, which now has me trailing through pages and
pages of other tools that I don't have that are
now kind of tempting as well. Right oh, twenty six

(17:27):
minutes after six pam. Good morning, good.

Speaker 11 (17:31):
Morning, good morning.

Speaker 12 (17:33):
A couple of weeks ago, I had a quita debt
installed for my patio and I have very heavy, old.

Speaker 11 (17:41):
Type wicker chairs on top of it.

Speaker 12 (17:44):
Yes, I've noticed around the legs of the chairs the
queler is starting to bleed, and I was wondering if
you could help me because I don't quite know what
to do with it.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
When you say the quiller has started to bleed, So
where the chair sits on top, that's where you're seeing
a mark on the quiller or is the mark on the.

Speaker 12 (18:05):
Chair Michael a Quila?

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Okay, Quila, like a couple of other hardwoods, obvious, he
has a lot of resin in it and it always
bleeds right, and that stops after a period of time.
So I just wonder whether just removing the furniture and
leaving it, let's say until early summer, you know, the

(18:32):
end of spring, early summer, and then putting your furniture
back should be okay, and where those marks are unless
what's happened is something from the wicker. But is the
wicker furniture older furniture okay?

Speaker 12 (18:46):
No, and they purchased it about four years ago.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Oh okay, but it's been outside, hasn't it.

Speaker 12 (18:54):
It's over the porch.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah. What I'm thinking is sometimes, I mean even I've
seen it with new hardwood. Outdoor furniture will leach out
as well, So people put it on the concrete tiles,
for example, and it leaches the queeler leaches out into that. Look.
I just think that whatever's happened, it'll probably just evaporate.

(19:17):
So I would just take the furniture off, if you
could store it somewhere else. You know, at this time
of year, you're probably not sitting out there that much.
You want to be out there every day enjoying your
brand new deck. Yes, what sort of mark has it left? Like,
what's the concern?

Speaker 9 (19:38):
It's like.

Speaker 12 (19:40):
Dropping a liquid from above it it's sort of just
not splatters. But oh, I can't explain it really.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
I think I know what you mean. It might just
be that you have to wait for the deck to
sort of acclimatize. Right, it's a brand new deck. It
will bleed that that sap that's in there, that resis
and that's in there will want to come out. And
that's just a patience thing. So I do wonder whether

(20:14):
you might just have to move the furniture off for
a period of time, allow the deck to settle down,
and then bring your furniture back out again.

Speaker 12 (20:22):
But would it be useful to wrap something around the
leges or the chairs.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
In terms of preventing contact. Yes, look, it wouldn't hurt.
It wouldn't hurt. Even if you got some of those little,
you know, single sided adhesive chair pads that you can
buy and put those on the bottom. They probably won't
stick very well for very long, but it would would
give you some separation. Might look a little bit tidier

(20:50):
than than putting down, you know, like wrapping some tape
around the bottom of the feet, right, So that's another
option for you. Separating the two surfaces might help a little.
Take care pet eight hundred eighty Good morning peak. Composite

(21:11):
decking versus timber decking. Are composite materials i ecodic or
bamboo worth considering? Are they slippery when dry or wet?
Do they fade? Are they brittle? Uv resistant? Generally, there
are they worth considering. I'm aware they're dearer, but cheaper
as quicker to install. Thank you very much, says Mary.

(21:32):
I'll tell you what. Look, I've used them right, composite
decking particularly m.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
The name will come back to me in a minute.
So yes, they are worth considering. I think you've got
to go for a company perhaps that's been around for
a while. Every now and then new products arrive on
the market and then they disappear, so you want something
that's been in the market for a while. Yes, there
are some advantages they do. Movement tends to be the
biggest issue with them. Over the length there might be

(22:04):
like two or three millimeters meter of board where you
get expansion and contraction. Some people don't like that. There
was a new wood fiber decking that I saw at
building said the other day. I'll try and find the details.
That was looked quite impressive as well, So yes, not

(22:27):
worth dismissing, and in some instances, perhaps where you're concerned
about like slip resistance for example, they can actually genuinely
be a benefit. So hopefully that helps. They are worth
they are worth looking at. Diane, good morning to you.

Speaker 9 (22:47):
Oh, good morning, good morning. I'm a little bit croaky.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
So anyway, both.

Speaker 9 (22:53):
Now, in a house I've just bought, there are tiles everywhere,
but there's tiles in the toilet and the tiles in
the bathroom. From the floor, you're up to about waist
line your waist. So I'm wondering, how could you get

(23:14):
the tiles off the wall without damaging the walls?

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Sure, any sort answer is pretty much no. So I
don't mean to be blunt or dismissive, but typically what
would happen is it depends you know. Let's say, is
it a relatively new house.

Speaker 9 (23:34):
No, it's about nineteen ages. Well, no, it may have
been updated at some state, right right.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Look, I think Well, as you can imagine, the tiles
are stuck with glue to the substrate, right, So if
that is a plaster board, then the glue will stick
to the paper. So when you take the tile off
and take the glue off with the adhesive off. It's
going to rip the paper surface off most likely, in
which case you are talking about having to remove the

(24:05):
wall lining or line over the wall lining in order
to get it back to a smooth surface. So if
what you're thinking is I don't really like the tiles,
I would like to have more, but you know, more
painted surfaces, then yeah, you'd rip the tiles off and
replace the billboard.

Speaker 9 (24:26):
They're royal blue, they're really deep, right. Do you know
if you can paint tiles?

Speaker 2 (24:34):
You can, but it will always just look like painted tiles, right,
and that's it's never going to be great, right, And
I know that our razine experts that are on the show,
we get that question quite a bit. So yes, you
can do it, but it.

Speaker 11 (24:54):
Won't look great.

Speaker 9 (24:56):
So that really I just have to live with them.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
It might be that's the case. Yeah, but ye're taking
the tiles off and reusing the wall board underneath it
very unlikely it's going to be a cost effective solution.
I think most likely you're going to end up pulling
that off and replacing the wall lining so that you
can get a surface you can paint.

Speaker 8 (25:21):
Yeah, yeah, okay, thank you, very all right.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Sorry about that. All right, see you then bye bye
your news talks the'd be it is coming up twenty
five minutes away from seven. Just a reminder, of course,
we've got the rugby the All Blacks versus the Pumas
Lost Boomers live from Argentina kickoff just after nine o'clock,
so at around eight forty five this morning we will

(25:46):
hand over to the sports team for their live commentary,
which means Ruod will be along a bit earlier this
morning as well. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
spear lines await.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Measure twice God was but maybe call Pete first VI
worcav the resident builder News Talk sa'd be.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Oh now feeling bad because I've been on the web
site to see the proper name for the rule that
I bought what happens to be a very simple name
actually a stop rule three hundred milimeters stop rule, which
I bought the other day. But I must have got
the last one because they're out of stock now. Anyway,

(26:23):
shouldn't stop you going and having a look around. Oh
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Lena, A very good
morning to you. I love these update stories. What's going on?

Speaker 3 (26:32):
Lina?

Speaker 13 (26:33):
It might be a good morning. But I'm not too
sure whether my problem is right.

Speaker 8 (26:37):
Go for it.

Speaker 13 (26:38):
It could be a multi problem. Now I live in Theicago,
and I have a shop in a small shopping center
which was originally built round about the nineteen sixty four
sixty six areap. Now I have a corner shop, and
I had a new roof put on a few years

(26:59):
ago and a downpipe which went into the grounds right now.
Over the last few years, my shop next to a
shop next door for a shop, and then a rather
very very large chemist shop put new roofing on theirs.
They then attached their down pipe to my downpipe. Yes,

(27:25):
every time it rains, I get soaking wet feet getting
out of my car, and the whole area is all
full of moths. Now I have approached to the city
council and they say not their problem. I ask them
if they had maps for the drainage, and they say

(27:49):
they don't have. So I want to know whether it's
legal for some other shop to put attached their down
pipe to my downpipe and all the resulting problems.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Look, I think you know I'm pretty much one hundred
percent confidence on this.

Speaker 13 (28:07):
No.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Right, it's a simple no. So what I'd suggest you
do is maybe contact, you know, if you've got some
contacts with a drain layer, ask them to come and
visit and sort of give you a basic summary of
what your rights are. And then in the end Council's
not going to be interested in this unfortunately, so you'll

(28:29):
have to take it up with the owner of the
adjacent building.

Speaker 8 (28:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (28:35):
Well, I have been in contact with the one owner
Bela is in christ Church. The other one next door,
it's his. One is a very small building, so it's
not even as big as way, So who did you
say that I should contact.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
I suppose what you need is a little bit of evidence,
right to say, actually, what you've done is, if not illegal,
then incorrect. And so I wonder whether a local drain
layer who's familiar with the rules and regulations from the
council come along look at it, take a couple of photographs,
end you a quick email going hey, look I've noticed this,

(29:09):
this work is not as it should be, and then
that gives you some evidence when you talk to the
neighbors to go, hey, guys, this is not right. And
I guess if there's sort of absentee landlords in the
sense that one of them's in christ Church that sort
of thing. Maybe they're not aware, but if you can
send some photographs and a brief summary, I think that

(29:30):
will give you a little bit more go forward. So
good luck on that, and please do let me know
how you get on. I think this. We talked about
this last week and the plumber or whoever did the
roofing work and connected the downpipe got our inaugural Cheeky
Bugger of the Week award for that sort of work.
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to

(29:52):
call quick tech. Someone says, hey, I've painted over tiles
in the bathroom. Worked fine, got the products I used
from Razine. It does look painted, but it looks better
than before. So in that sense, you've got to be
a little bit sort of realistic. Yes, I mean, if
it's a dark blue tile and you're not really to
dark blue tiles and you painted them white, then chances
are they'll look better than blue, but they will just

(30:12):
look like painted tiles, which could be worthwhile. Oh eight
hundred eighty ten eighty the number. Karen, Good morning, Good morning,
How I am don't care very well?

Speaker 14 (30:24):
Yeah, So I just bought my first home which was
pretty moment. So it's a three bedroom, three story townhouse. Yeah,
and I just wanted your advice with my two bathrooms,
one on the second floor in my en suite on
the top floor. I've noticed that the condensation does build
up under paper towel tests on the extract. The fans

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and they all got out.

Speaker 11 (30:50):
I wanted to see. I wanted to see if.

Speaker 14 (30:52):
You could tell me, like, as would they use a
more water water, okay, paint in the bathrooms because the
house is a couple of years old. Is that a
regulation or should I be worried that I can see drips? Oh?

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Okay, so you're yeah, yeah, I know what you mean.
So there will still be a bit of what they
call surfactant leeching. So when there's a lot of moisture
in there, you'll see it running down the walls. I
tell you what you know. I can imagine first home buyer, congratulations,
you're probably a bit strapped for cash because you've tipped
everything you've got into getting the house. But if it's

(31:29):
if it's a relatively new house with some hopefully well
it'll have adequate but not great extraction, but it will
have extraction in both of those bathrooms, won't it. Yeah, yeah,
and that definitely goes to outside.

Speaker 14 (31:47):
Yep, yep, and yeah, and I made sure that both
the fans like you put the pizza toilet out the.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Great Okay, I suppose that one option would be is
to I'm guessing that is the fan on its own switch. Yeah, yeah, okay,
So you can get an electrician to install a run
on timer. So let's say, as most of us do,
get up in the morning, jump in the shower, rush

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off to work, and then you know, as soon as
we've finished in the shower, we turn the lights off,
turn the fan off, and go. But there's still quite
a lot of moisture in there. So one option is
to put in a run on timer that will keep
that fan running, let's say, for another ten minutes or so,
which is going to be a benefit. The other thing,
and I picked one up on Friday and I'm putting
it into a rental property that I look after on

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Tuesday is a fan by a company called Simmis SIMX,
and it's a constant flow fan. So I would ditch
the old extractor replace it with this new one. And
what it does is it senses when there's humidity and
ramps up to full extraction. But then for the rep
for the full twenty four hours of a day, it

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will run constantly just drawing moisture and air out of
that space. So you know, if yours is a relatively
new build it's got lots of insulation, it's got reasonable
quality joinery, it's probably not thermly broken aluminium. So that's
where you're getting a little bit of condensation as well.
But because our buildings are becoming more and more air tight,

(33:22):
or moving towards air tightness, we're not getting that ventilation
through our houses. They tend to get locked up and
they tend to start sweating from the inside. And so
there's lots and lots of discussion and sort of building
science circles at the moment around it's a bit over dramatic,
but you know, leaky buildings two point zero. You know,

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as we've moved towards air tightness, which is a good thing,
a very very good thing, we need to balance that
with some ventilation and extraction, and we haven't that, we
haven't caught up with that. So my suggestion would be
to have a look for a constant flow fan and
put the money into taking out both of those extractors
and both bathrooms and replacing them with constant flow extra action.

Speaker 14 (34:08):
Okay, all right, just right, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Or at the very least a run on timer that
allows it to run for longer to extract more of
that moistire. Okay, thank you, have a look online. Cheers, buddy,
all the best, Bob. I think your news talk said be.
We need to take another break. Then we'll be back
with Willie after.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
The break doing other house sorting the garden. Asked Pete
for a hand the resident builder with Peter wolfkeab call eighty.
News talks'd be.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
Indeed news talks. He'd be coming up ten minutes away
from seven, of course news sport, and we're the top
of the hour at seven. Might have time for one
more call as well, Willy, good morning, good morning, very
well yourself. Yeah, not too that, what's going on.

Speaker 8 (34:52):
I bought a house in twenty nineteen. I've been looking
for two years, books Bay. I bought a founder house
for two years and I thought, yop, this is exactly
what I want.

Speaker 11 (35:07):
I bought it.

Speaker 8 (35:08):
I knew there was a lot of people interested, so
I bought it outright without any consent, any builders reports
or anything else. I thought, if there's anything there, I'm
sure I can fix it. So anyway, I down the
line of it. I've put a garage in the done
other consents, and I went into the council with the
other data, play the final consent and asked if they

(35:33):
had any the original plans of the house. Yes, they
had the original plans. I said, oh, could I have
a copy of them? Yes, I don't have a copy
of them. And I had a look and I said, oh.
They said what's up? And I should there's a change.
I said yes with the outside. No to the inside,
and obviously I've had the place ensured, not knowing that

(35:55):
there was no consent or anything else to the changes.
There is a beam. They've removed a wall inside and
put it open plan, which is great, but there is
no consent for the change.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
Right.

Speaker 8 (36:11):
The council said they won't do anything about it. It's
not their problem. Yeah, it's more my problem when I
come to sell it, if someone decides to do some diligence.
And yeah, and also I also had to pay my insurance,

(36:31):
and I know the insurance lady, and I said to her, Okay,
now I put a spanner in the works here. What
if there's something in the house that has not been
And she said, well, previously, if you hadn't told me
and you didn't know, nothing would happen. But now that
you know, we've got to do something about it. So

(36:51):
it's my past place is still insure. But I've got
to find someone that can give me a report to
say that the theme is legal. Yes, where would I go?

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Okay, you're going you going to probably need In fact,
I'm almost a hundred percent sure. So in terms of
getting someone with the right credentials to prepare a report
that will be acceptable to counsel, it will need to
be someone like a building survey, right, So if you

(37:21):
go to building survey dot org dot nz I think
it is, or just search for n z ibs SO
the New Zealand Institute of Building Surveys ibs SO Institute
of New Zealand, Institute of Building Surveys. They and have
a look through that they'll find there's a tab there

(37:42):
that goes, you know, find a local building survey. You'll
find someone in the Bay of Plenty. In fact, I
know some people who work in that area because they're
on the executive. Oh sorry, hawks Bay, same thing. So
there'll be people there. Some of them will sort of
note what their specialty is, and so what you'll be

(38:04):
looking for is someone who who does certificate of acceptance. Right,
so someone will come along, they'll inspect the building. You
may have to do some destructive testing, like to like
can you tell what size and type of beam that's

(38:25):
been installed? You know, is it a steel beam, is
it a glue lamb beam? Is it two types of
beams with a.

Speaker 11 (38:33):
Flip the roof?

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Then that's fantastic. If you can do that, then you
can see what type of beam, what the span is,
what the load might be, how it's braced, has it
impacted on the total bracing elements for the wall. Prepare
a summary, including an updated floor plan and maybe a
cross section of that area, present that to council and

(38:57):
request a certificate of acceptance. And if the building surveyor
prepares that for you, council typically will just rub a
stamp it right, They'll make it and then they'll go
and do that, and then that brings all of your
building because you've had subsequent building consents issued for your property.
That what that certificate of acceptance gets attached to the

(39:20):
property file and then anyone coming to look at it
realizes that basically you've solved the problem. Right, it won't
be an expensive process. Okay, right, you know, if I.

Speaker 8 (39:37):
Know an engineer, could I get an engineer to do it?

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Yes, an engineer could prepare a report. That still need
you'd still need to get plans done, but yes, an engineer.

Speaker 8 (39:49):
I actually do a floor plan and took it to
the insurance to show them where they because I've done
flaw plans before, so I've done that.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Look, you know, it's it's going to counsel with professional
advice from someone who has the qualifications to give prof
national advice to go here. You know, like I didn't
do this work. I've bought the property. I didn't realize
that it had been done. Now I'm fixing the problem.
And here's the evidence to say that the work that's

(40:19):
being done complies with the Building Act and with the
Building Code and all with the building code, and here's
the evidence for it. So if your engineer can provide
that evidence, that's fantastic.

Speaker 8 (40:32):
Okay, so awesome, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Yeah, and look, you know, I get it. Not everyone
gets a pre purchase inspection. But I and I guess
it's the sort of thing that even your lawyer doing
the conveyancing might not have been aware of, because they
may not have looked at the original plans and asked
you if the plans line up with what's there at

(40:57):
the moment.

Speaker 8 (40:58):
No, that's right, I don't know. Even the real estate
agent wouldn't have right. Yeah, I mean, I love my
house and I enjoy living here, so I'll I'll just
sort it all and look otherwise I'll just start here
and someone else.

Speaker 13 (41:16):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Look, I think if you can get it sorted out,
it look at it as an investment in the value
of your home, because when you go to sell it
and you don't have that problem, no one's going to
use that problem to drive the price down. Good luck
and all the very best. Lovely chatting with you this
morning radio. We're right on top of news, top of
the hour at seven o'clock if you'd like to join

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us after the break is a call now, oh eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing the fence, or wondering
how to fix that hole in the wall, give a feeder,
Wolf Cap call on eighty the resident builder on Youth Dogs'
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Speaker 2 (41:53):
Very good morning, welcome back to the show. It is
six minutes after seven. Kind of a miserable on nighte
wasn't it. I had plans to do outdoor work yesterday,
which I still got done. Actually, just put a raincoat
on it. Only rain folks. If you've got to get
it done, just get it done. Oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty. Let's rip into your calls and questions if

(42:14):
you've got Sorry, I'm just distracted by a text that's
come through when reporting on European soccer. Why on earth
does news talks that'd be only talk about the English sides?
Not true? Every now and then they'll talk about other
European sides as well. Yes, football's back, Yeah right, let's

(42:34):
get into it. Let's talk all things building construction. Oh
eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Here's an interesting one as well. Just off our call
with Willie just before the break. Hey, Pete, the person
with the unconsented work should speak with her lawyer about
recovering the costs from the people she bought it off.
In twenty eighteen, the standard real estate contract used throughout

(42:56):
New Zealand contains vendor warranties that if they carried out
any building work, they did so in accordance with the
Building Act and local council requirements, she may be able
to recover the cost of complying, even though it is
through the Disputes Tribunal for a breach of contract. Thank
you very much for pointing that out, Jeff, that's really helpful.
So Willy, if you're listening, maybe it is worth a

(43:18):
conversation with your lawyer to go, Hey, in this instance,
if work was done that everybody knows needs a consent
and was done without it, and that wasn't revealed in
the sale and purchase agreement, could you go back to them?
Maybe the time is too much. Time has passed, but hey,
look it's worth inquiring, absolutely to be fair. When I

(43:39):
first started reading that text, I was assuming that the
text was going to suggest that Willie goes back to
her lawyer and goes, how come you didn't pick that up.
I'm aware of one case where someone who purchased land
that turned out to be less than what they thought
they were buying. Right, there was a mistake in the

(44:00):
listening and both the real estate agent and the lawyer
ended up paying some compensation to the purchaser when they
realized that where they thought they could get three houses
on the development site, they could only get two. That
makes quite a big difference. Oh, eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty that number to call. Good morning, Peat Wolf
Camp here and Gavin, Good morning to you.

Speaker 15 (44:21):
Good morning.

Speaker 10 (44:22):
Hey there, Hey, I've just got some tiles laid yesterday
in my bathroom. This is going around the bath and vanity.

Speaker 11 (44:34):
Today. I was hoping to nail some skirting on the
opposite wall.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Is it to ah, you're worried about sort of rumbling
them off?

Speaker 3 (44:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Are you going old school with your nailing, as in
a hammer and a nail? Wow? Awesome? No, Look now
how we used to do it for forever, wasn't it
until these flash hairy nail guns came along? Oh no,

(45:08):
I think you'd probably be okay.

Speaker 11 (45:10):
You know, I'll just leave it to the later part
of the day.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, hours, I think so. I mean, look,
have the tiles been grouted yet? No, if they were,
if they were stuck on yesterday.

Speaker 10 (45:26):
Yeah, yeah, it's an ultramestic.

Speaker 13 (45:31):
Glue.

Speaker 10 (45:32):
So I was looking at the label, and it didn't
have any indication.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Of drying time or the curing time. M M. Look,
I think it'd be relatively low risk, right, I mean,
it's not if you said to me, I want to
frame up a wall adjacent it or something like that.
That's a lot more vibration, isn't it. I think if
you know, if it was me, i'd probably get on

(45:59):
do the scoutings as well. Yeah, yep, yeah, a simple one.
Just don't don't start to really. I know it's ten
past seven, but you know, swing and a hammer at
this hour of the morning's probably just I'd have a breakfast,
maybe listening to the rugby, and then get started.

Speaker 11 (46:19):
Yea, yeah, I got some tight time frames.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Yeah, okay, yeah, no, I hear you, I hear you
fair enough to look just be cautious, but I'm sure
you'd be fine to take care. I love this text.
How do you peak? No such thing as bad whether
you've just got the wrong jacket, been my philosophy for years.
Also quite funny you point out the apprentice, point out

(46:43):
to the apprentice they're actually born waterproof. Oh that's quite good. Actually,
I quite like that, Chris. Thank you. It makes me laugh,
have a good day and to you too, Chris. Hey, Look,
actually I did wear a jacket yesterday. That was that
was absolutely fine. It wasn't terribly rainy. And I tell
you what I don't like about working in the rain

(47:03):
is ruining you gear, right, That's pretty much which my
kind of cut off point. If I have to do
something where, you know, having a drop saw sitting out
in the rain, I can't stand that. I just don't
want to do it, or table saws and that sort
of thing. If it's something like yesterday, which was basically

(47:24):
just pulling apart some pipe and clip scaffolding that I
put up. Before everybody freaks out about me doing my
own scaffolding, it was very load of the ground. It
was just a platform that allowed me to get to
where I needed to get to replace all the ballasters
at the back of the deck. So I built it.
It was loaded the ground. It was just a really
sensible and easy way of being able to get access,

(47:47):
which actually made the whole job so much easier. So
rather than having to because it was over the top
of a garden, so I basically built a platform over
the top of the garden, which allowed me to wander
up and down there and work on the handrails and
the decking boards when I needed to. It was great.
Wasn't so great for the lavenders. I've basically killed those.

(48:07):
But back to the point about working in their own
I'm more than happy to work in the rain. And
you're right about the jackets. Tell you what, just quickly,
I cast your mind back, if you're in the Auckland
area to the January twenty third floods of twenty twenty
three or January twenty twenty three floods. Right, We as

(48:30):
a family had decided to go on the night when
they didn't tell us that we were going to have
one of the biggest storms we've ever had to the
Elton John concert. So we left home, hopped on the ferry,
came across the town and got picked up by another
family member, drove out to Mount Smart Stadium, went into
the stadium. Standing in the stadium, we'd got this is

(48:52):
the concert that we'd waited two years for because he
got sick last time he was here. And then we're
standing at Mount Smart Stadium, will go Media Stadium, it's called.
Now in the pouring rain and a couple of inches
of water on the playing field with this decking over
the top of it. And then guy comes out and goes, oh, look, hey,

(49:13):
by the way, we've been told to cancel a concert.
You've all got to go home. Carnage, right, what a
nightmare of a day. Only good thing about it was
I was wearing a Cactus rain coat. Cactus is a
New Zealand brand. They make them in christ Church. And
so for all of that rain, for all of the
walking around, and the day just got worse and worse
and worse. Right, people lost their keys. We had to

(49:35):
wander around looking for keys and the pouring. It was
a disastrous night. Got home eventually at about I don't know,
midnight or something like that. Bone dry. Thank you very much.
So you're right, there's no such thing as bad weather.
You've just got the wrong jacket. I hadn't wileheartedly agree
with you, Chris, And I love that, you know, pointing

(49:55):
out to the apprentice that they're actually born water fruit,
or as my mum would say, and still does, you're
not made of sugar. I agree. Good morning, Good morning,
How are you willing very well? Thank you? How can
I help?

Speaker 10 (50:11):
Good? Hey, we were just we were just talking earlier
and I only picked up the tail the end of
it about the disclosure of putting when you when you
put your property on the market, and maybe having done
some of the why.

Speaker 4 (50:24):
Work on it.

Speaker 10 (50:25):
Yes, yeah, we're we we only just last week that
had been through the same thing, but with our properly
going on the market, and we put a number of
disclosures together, yes, for the sale, so that the lights
of what we've done is that we have we have
constructed or reconstructed the tail the end of our house

(50:48):
into a studio and having been in a very fortunate
situation where the studio once upon a time was a flat.
So when we came to when we came to with
the real estate agent of how we go about this,
and we've got a very comprehensive folder of photos.

Speaker 7 (51:05):
And that sort of thing.

Speaker 10 (51:07):
Any building work that we undertook light when we took
walls out and put themes in it, and in place
of walls, where we took windows out and put in windows,
couple based windows and that sort of thing, we had
a builder do that. So that was that's all good
under the licensed Building practitioner's license.

Speaker 7 (51:28):
Okay, No, we did.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
Like taking a wall out like we'll come back to that. Yep. Okay,
so you did some work that now is any of
the work that you're describing, did any of that work
require a building consent?

Speaker 8 (51:48):
No?

Speaker 2 (51:49):
What about taking a wall out?

Speaker 10 (51:51):
It was only an internal walls that was nonstructural, okay,
ye right, so so so so to go back to
anything anything that was taken out was nonstructural, yes, okay.
So we had we had builders, we had builders put
in two beams of where we took out two nonstructural
walls okay, and where we had windows put in, we

(52:15):
had them fitted by the by the builders. So we've
got the invoices and the and the sign off for that.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
And the window side didn't change, No.

Speaker 10 (52:25):
We had the windows, we had the windows made to side.
So we structurally we didn't change anything too drastically in
the house. Right, So with the likes of when we
go we re lined the bathroom that that was obriginally
done in hard attacks, right, So it's quite an old house.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
Yeah, sure, So we had it all.

Speaker 10 (52:47):
We had all that done in aqua jib and that
sort of in that style of product, and again it
was all it was all done with the correct success
and that sort of thing, so we just we just
put it on the we just put it the closure

(53:07):
together right and basically being sold on it as is
where is basis, So it's up to the purchaser to
do their due diligence.

Speaker 9 (53:22):
Right.

Speaker 10 (53:22):
So basically it said that we're selling on an ass
where is basis. The whole house has been done with
the extension of the roof, It's all been insulated to
the required building app one. Unit Unit two does not
have a heat hunt in it, so that's part of
our disclosure as well, and that sort of thing. So

(53:43):
just to try and make it easy for the purchaser
to come in and go, I need to do that,
I need to do that. I need to identify that.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
When you say it's been insulated, is that insulation in
the underfloor and the and the roof space, not on
the walls.

Speaker 10 (53:59):
We were really fortunate that the house that we bought,
the sea has big the floor had already been done.
He had to do was the ceiling and the walls
and units two and three. So Unit one was all
forty done, all it was all it was all compliant

(54:21):
and it's been a four year project. We've just been
progressively working through the whole fact.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Just just on the wall, on the wall installation. So
did you add insulation to an existing exterior wall?

Speaker 11 (54:35):
Yeah, we did.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
Yeah, yeah, that requires a building consent.

Speaker 10 (54:41):
After it was after that war was repaired.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
That requires a building consent. Interestingly enough told that, well
it does. Yeah, And I'm not I'm not trying to
play gotcha or anything like that. It's just and and look,
I for taking that a step further. I actually think

(55:06):
that that's the sort of work that should be under
Schedule one of the Building Act in terms of work
that can be done without necessarily requiring a consent, should
be done by a licensed building practitioner, but right now
it's not. And installing exterior insulation into an existing exterior
wall requires a consent. So yeah, anyway, look, I think

(55:29):
the way in which you've approached it is really sound, right. So,
you know, one of the concerns often is that people
do work. Sometimes it should have had a consent. Sometimes
that might not, but they don't keep any records of it,
and so there's an uncertainty. In Willie's example, they've purchased
something they didn't know that there was once a wall there.

(55:52):
They've discovered that there was one there there's no evidence
to say it was done correctly, and it makes it
very very difficult.

Speaker 11 (55:59):
You know.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
It sounds like you've taken a really thorough approach. You're
recording everything, you're providing evidence.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
You know.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
It's even things like if you if I'm not suggesting
people do, but if you did put a beam in
and take a photograph of the fixings, right and the
posts that go underneath it before you line it, and
then that becomes and then if you then want to
get someone to formalize it with a certificate of acceptance,
you could provide that as evidence. They can review the
evidence and go, hey, there's enough here for me to

(56:28):
conclude that the work was done in accordance with the
building code. Simple.

Speaker 10 (56:33):
Yeah, we've basically put it together so that they can
see for themselves, what what what we have done? Yes?
And then a nutshell the only thing that has the
roots painted.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
Yeah. Yeah, Look, I think as a general thing, there
was there was a phrase that was coined by I
think it was actually Green Building Council ages ago when
I did the Home Star program, that we should encourage
people to have a hug right a home user guide,
so you know, keep all of that documentation. If you've

(57:08):
done electrical work, if you've had plumbing work done, if
you've bought new appliances, keep all of that stuff. Put
it in a file or create a digital file, store
it in the cloud, and then you know, and I
know sometimes acting for people who are looking at it.
I went and did one on Friday, right, someone said,
could you have a look at this house with me

(57:29):
before I'm thinking of making an offer? On the table
was the complete property file, copies of the consents, receipts,
everything was there, and you go, that's fantastic. So you know,
I think it's I think it's great if we can
move towards more and more people doing exactly the same thing. Yeah, yeah,
appreciate the call. Good luck and is this property now

(57:50):
up for sale the properly marketed?

Speaker 11 (57:54):
WEK?

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Wow, okay, good luck, Yeah, thank you, no trouble at all.
A nice jetting, good stuff, all the best, you two
take care. Oh wait eighty ten eighty interesting call someone
to text through there and go why would you put
a beaman when removing a non structural wall, you still
might have things like ceiling strapping and that sort of

(58:16):
thing that you want to pick up right, so you know,
in some cases the wall is holding up structural ailments.
Sometimes it's just holding up you know, ceiling batons and
that sort of thing. So and also putting in a
beaman means you don't have to try and level out
the ceilings and those sorts of things. Eight hundred eighty
ten eighty is the number to call. A couple of

(58:38):
good texts coming through, but I'll take your calls first,
so get in now. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty.
We've got a slightly shorter show today because we've got
the Rugby All Blacks v. Pumas kick off just after
nine o'clock. We will hand over to the commentary team
at eight forty five, which means we'll get ridden a
little bit earlier, so give us a call now. Basically,

(59:00):
oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty the number to call.
Squeaky door or squeaky floor.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
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Speaker 2 (59:11):
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or a question around you know, products new ideas. Did
I ever update people about the whole vice thing? And
I apologies for people that go stop talking about their
vice anyway, just quickly. I think a couple of weeks ago,
I mentioned that I'd stripped an old vice off the bench,

(59:31):
beautiful old English made, you know, made in Britain, stamped
on the front and the castings, cleaned it all up,
and then wanted something to spray on it that would
keep the rust at bay, basically, so I ended up
using that penetrol and look, it's worked well. I put
it all back together again. I put the vice back
onto the bench and actually, when I was in the

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workshop yesterday, I was trying to drill a hole into
a small piece of timber and it's all a little
bit hazardous and all the rest of it, and I
was like, hang on, I've replaced my vent, I've fixed
my vice. I can use the vice, which I did,
and it worked. It's great, and it's still looking pretty good.
Actually I left it sort of in that patina of
rust and wear and a few bits of glue and

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paint stuck on it, and then just hopefully that pinatrol
will keep the rust at bake, which will be awesome. Kate,
good morning to you, Greetings Pete, how are you very well?
Thank you very much, and you good, thank you.

Speaker 13 (01:00:27):
I'm well, thank you.

Speaker 15 (01:00:27):
A quick question, I hope for you. I've got some
cyber cement weather boards, and there are the three hundred ones.
I've maintained the house very well. It's been painted every
ten years and washed regularly. But recently one of my
darling tenants, and I don't want her to play for this,
has driven her car just a little too close and

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cracked cracked as the lowest board. But the thing is
that the crack is such that the lower part of
the crack is proud, and so it might be collecting water. Yes,
And I don't know what to use to fill that.
I presume I can just feel. I've got a few
other cracks elsewhere, but they're vertical and they've never been
a problem. Yes, So can I just fill it with

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something side or wood?

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
Uh?

Speaker 14 (01:01:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Probably. There's there's kind of two approaches. One, as you
put a filler in there, you've just got to get
something that's going to bond to the surface, right, which
might you know, getting a filler to stick to the
paint and presume it's been painted, it may not stick
that well, in which case they kind of peel off
So for example, builder's bog, which people use a lot,

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you can't use if the surface is being painted right.
So I actually I use one that I got the
other day. It's like a two pot epoxy filler, but
it's quite light and easy to send later on called
EPO tech E p O T E C. You've got

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to kind of look that up and look for a
local distributor. I've been using that really like it. The
other approach that I've taken with five or cement boards
is I'll actually go and get some flashings made, like
a big wide soka. So you need to find a
sheet metal guy. Just let's say that I imagine if
the towbar hit it, you know, you might have a

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crack that's sort of one hundred millimeters across. I would
get a two hundred millimeter piece of flat sheet folded
with a little return on the bottom which is probably
about seven or eight millimeters for the thickness of the board,
and then allow it to go up ten or fifteen
millimeters past the underside of the board above. So it

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requires kind of levering that board out very gently without
cracking that one as well. And I just put a
soka over the whole thing and painted in because that's
pretty much guaranteed to be weather tight.

Speaker 15 (01:02:55):
Well, it gets your permission to hit it again, I
suppose to that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
Well, it gives you a target. Yeah, don't paint that
red or put a bullseye on it. Yeah. So yes,
some fillers look and if it's like a vertical crack,
which happens sometimes you can kind of gently rake it
out a little bit and then apply a bead of
sealant to that that's paintable.

Speaker 15 (01:03:15):
The key is so just down a bit and make it,
give it a rough surface to hear.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Or even with a sharp knife, just just go along
the edge of the crack and kind of create like
a little v because otherwise, you know, if it's a
hairline crack and you apply a bead of sealant, it's
just sitting on the surface. Whereas if you can even
if you ended up making it kind of straight, putting
a roller there and cutting a v in and then
filling that v and then painting over it would leave

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a nice clean surface.

Speaker 15 (01:03:44):
So now you're talking about the EPO tax for the
vertical crack.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
No, that would be like a sealant, like a flexible
paintable sealant that you could use. Yeah, that's that's what
I would do in those instances if I didn't want
to do a flashing. Okay, yeah, so a couple.

Speaker 15 (01:04:03):
Of different the other on the other the oratical ones
on a different property next door. Sure don't seem to
get wet at all because the water just runs. They're
very small. They just go through a door, door frame.

Speaker 8 (01:04:16):
It's just piny.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Yeah. Look, if you know, if you're not concerned about
moisture ingress, right, water getting into the building, then just
ceiling it with some paint or some sealant will be okay,
something like that. That's where it's been dislocated. Let's say
where it's it's uneven. You know the tricky thing. I
suppose in this instance it's being pushed in. But typically

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when a board gets pushed in, part of it pops out,
so you'll have one part that's slightly proud, in which
case you might, yeah, consider the flash to.

Speaker 15 (01:04:51):
Do the flashing. Yeah, it sounds like a good idea.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
It's a it's what i'd call a belt embraces approach. Right,
so you're covering the area you know it's going to
be weather tight. And yes it does stand out a
little bit, but you just know that it'll work.

Speaker 11 (01:05:07):
Yeah, brilliant.

Speaker 15 (01:05:08):
Well it's going to be painted next year anyway, against
you for a paint, so it will be covered well.
For flashing, you can punt the flashing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
You can paint the flashing any color you like.

Speaker 15 (01:05:18):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
All right, that's to chat with you all the very Okay,
take care, k bye oh eight hundred and eighty ten eight.
If you'd like to join me and have a chat
about all things building, we can do exactly that morning
I mentioned the extractor Simmis s I m X. Do
you have a really good high end bassroom fan please,

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one that looks great and works well. Look, there's all
sorts out there. The reason I mentioned the Simmix one
is that so s I m X and it's a
I can find it. I think it's a four nine
zero four nine or something. I'll get the right number
for you in a minute. It's a constant flow fan,
so it will run all of the time, just allowing

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for airflow, right, so it'll ramp up when it needs
to when it detects humidity. So it's got a little
humidity sensor in it, so in a bathroom, it'll ramp
up maximum extraction when there's humidity are you when you're
having a shower using the bath and then once that
humidity level has dropped down, the rate of flow will

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drop down or the rate of extraction, and it will
run just to allow air circulation through the room. The
other thing that's sometimes overlooked with bathrooms and bathroom extraction
is if you're going to be extracting so many liters
of air per minute out of a bathroom, you've got
to be able to allow that to go in. Otherwise,
what you're doing is creating a vacuum. So if you

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don't have a sufficient gap underneath the door and you
want to keep the door closed in the bathroom when
you're using the bathroom, you'll need to make sure that
you increase that gap between the floor and the underside
of the door to allow airflow. Obviously, leaving the door
open would help. Leaving a window open helps, but it
tends to create a funny flow, I think, So make

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sure that the a gap underneath the door. That's really
really important as well. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty.
If you have a question of building about building, we
can talk about that morning Peak. Last Sunday, following the
advice of a caller, I went and bought some Patrol,
used it, loved it. I now Patrol. Yeah, I'm within

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an inch of its life.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
Oh, that's fantastic. Thank you very much for your text.
It is good when you give a new product and
you like it. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty the
number to call will take a break. We'll be back
with Peggy after the break.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
We're helping you get those DIY projects done. Right the
resident builder with Peter Wolfcat call. Oh eight hundred eighty
eight Youth Talks Envy right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
Oh, very good morning, welcome back to the show, and Peggy,
good morning to you.

Speaker 16 (01:08:04):
Good morning.

Speaker 15 (01:08:06):
Now.

Speaker 16 (01:08:06):
I had had an overflowing hot water pipe that came
down inside and when the new roof on about four
years ago, when the plumber got up, there was a
slight there was a split or a little hole around
the base of the hot water pipe. Now that would

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have been viewed when the roof was put on, and
I've been thinking. I woke up the other night and
suddenly remembered because when I'm inside looking at the wallpaper,
there's a split in one corner down from the Scotia
right down the wall, slipped wallpaper and made it raised. Yes,

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they see there's been movement there.

Speaker 13 (01:08:55):
Now.

Speaker 16 (01:08:55):
I roke up here the other night and I've been
wondering why the hell has this happened on a new roof,
And I remembered, going back about three years. It was
after the cyclone. I had a leaking pipe outside on
the one end of the building. I rang a plumber,

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got him to come in, and I asked him to
put a new washer in that tap. He didn't put
a new washer, and he tore the tap off. I
stood beside him and I watched him. Book Now, when
he removed the tap, he wrenched it and he actually,
because I was alarmed, the the in flow from the street.

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So it was the main tap onto the side house. Yep,
he bent that pipe where it came up. There's a
concrete path right along the front of my house which
goes downhill. It meets the drive, which is also concrete.
And he wrenched that pipe and put he had to
put a join on, but he split the top of

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that pipe. And when he new pipeon, he was going
to leave, and I said, hey, you've split that pipe.

Speaker 13 (01:10:11):
And he said, I.

Speaker 16 (01:10:12):
Haven't got time to fix it now, I'll come back tomorrow.
Well he didn't come back tomorrow.

Speaker 13 (01:10:19):
He left it for.

Speaker 16 (01:10:22):
Three to five weeks. I can't remember exactly how long now,
but that split got bigger and bigger as the days
went on, because I was watching it a bank up
from the other end of the house, right along that
path to the leaking tap, and by the time he come,

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it was running it quite a force. He didn't come.
He sent and I got a second builder, and he
refused to do the job because he said that farmer
should come back and repair it. So he left didn't
do anything about it. So that tap was running. I
was waiting down that path to the other end. It

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was over the top of my gumbers foot so that
water was there for that whole time, and I'm wondering
whether that has what damage would that have done to
my past. I was so worried. I climbed under the
house one part, but I couldn't get to that boil

(01:11:28):
alther end was dry, so I just took it that
it wasn't coming in under the house, but it must
have been running somewhere because that was that split pipe
was running.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
Quite and it was the So it's the mains that
had to split in them, and so you're getting water
out of the mains, saturating the ground and potentially causing
movement that's causing the split.

Speaker 16 (01:11:51):
That's what I finally woke up for the other night.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
And thought, look, it's not outside of the realm of
possibility in the sense that if you get a lot
of water in one area and it saturates the ground,
the ground will become less stable and piles can move.
I was talking about it with someone the other day
exactly that you get water underneath the building and piles

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will move, and then you know, whether that's winter in
summer or in this event, a flood event, it's possible.
But I think from what you were describing at the beginning,
where there was an issue with a pipe in the ceiling,
that's more likely to have contributed to the wallpaper. And
you know, if it's just the wallpaper that's opened up,

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you can just stick that back with a bit of
PVA glup. But if it's the wallpapers opened up because
the wall has started to crack, and that crack has
occurred somewhere close to where that pile is, then yes,
that's not an a logical conclusion. The question is, you know,
after this much time, will the plumber come back? Will
the plumber address it as an issue? Probably unlikely, So

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it's going to be a case of repair it and
then just get on. I guess that's the really challenging.
But it's always it's always sad when I hear stories
about you know, plumbers or any trades people who don't
do a great job. And you know, if you've made
a mistake, just fix it right. And if you've split
a pipe, waiting three to four weeks to come back

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and fix it, that's not great, is it?

Speaker 13 (01:13:22):
No?

Speaker 16 (01:13:22):
Because but I'm worried that am I going to have
ongoing problems with that corner of the house.

Speaker 3 (01:13:29):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
I think if you fix the problem, the ground will
dry out, but there might have been some movement and
that won't change. So if it has moved and sunk
a little bit, the ground drying out isn't going to
help that. So, yes, there is a possibility that the
issue becomes you know, kind of proving causation, which is

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very difficult. It's possible, but it's not conclusive, so I'm
not sure. You just have to keep an eye on it, basically,
and if you needed to have some investigation done, it
becomes a structural engineering issue, etc. It just gets really
complicated really quickly. It's worth keeping an eye on. That's
the best advice right now. Good luck with that, Peggy,

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your news stalk said, be it is almost bang on
quarter to eight, remember at around eight twenty, so a
bit earlier this morning. Red Cline Pass will be with us.
We'll jump into the garden and then we will hand
over to the commentary team in an hour's time at
eight forty five, ahead of the All Blacks v. Pumas game.
Life from Argentina will come and chat with Louise straight

(01:14:34):
after the break.

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
Matter twice god was but maybe golfete first. Fida Wolfgav
the resident builder News Talk said, b right your new.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
Stalks SIDB eleven minutes coming up, eleven minutes away from
eight and Louise, good morning to you.

Speaker 8 (01:14:49):
Hi.

Speaker 17 (01:14:51):
I've probably got a bit of an idiot question here.
I have a car port and it has kind of
like a brick, well it isn't kind of. It is
a brick all around it, and it's starting to develop
maybe leech a bit of white powdery stuff out of

(01:15:13):
the bricks. Yes, And I just wondered I need to
do anything about it, like is it something to be
worried about, or do I just crush it off? Or
can I just didn't happen?

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
Now that you're talking about it being a cardboard, is
it a block wall or a brick wall? So when
you look at it, if it's a block wall, the
blocks are about four hundred long two hundred high and
a light gray color or is it actually no, it's bricks.

Speaker 17 (01:15:40):
Bricks yep. And it would have been built in the
late sixties yep. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
So and that white powder is coming out of the
bricks themselves.

Speaker 17 (01:15:54):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Okay, And suddenly enough I thought it's
probably that age of the bricks. But then I went
to see a client this week who's in the new
build of apartment blocks, and red bricks are doing exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
Yeah. So what it is is it's efflorescence. Right, So
it's salt, and salt is often part of masonry because
we collect sand from the beach, right, and so sand,
beach salt, water salt is in the sand. It should
be thoroughly washed before it's used in manufacture. But it

(01:16:31):
seems like you know, in some cases, there's still a
bit of salt in there, right, and it's that salt
that when it gets reactivated by moisture and migrates to
the outside, so it's efforescence. It's a salt. There are
some products that you can use that will help dissolve
it and clean it off. So if you just search
for concrete cleaning efforescence something like that, you'll find some

(01:16:54):
products there are now. Thankfully it used to be basically
acid based. A lot of the products are now not
acid based, which is an advantage. You can clean it off.
There might be a little bit of it coming back,
but you could clean that off again and eventually it
will it will stop. The other question though, is what

(01:17:14):
how is the moisture getting into the wall? So what
you're seeing is behind the bricks that you're seeing, is
that like the rest of the building, is it exposed
to the elements on the outside, Like where is that
moisture coming from? Is the question?

Speaker 9 (01:17:32):
Well?

Speaker 17 (01:17:34):
Probably twofold So definitely the weather, because like it's that's
where you know, all the rain that we've had. That's
definitely where it's sure it gets wet, but also there's
a down pipe from the So it's a car port

(01:17:55):
and there's spouting along the cap. Yes, and there's definitely
a down pipe thing there.

Speaker 8 (01:18:05):
Okay, Yeah, so.

Speaker 17 (01:18:09):
To say just wipe it with this and that will
be fine.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
Yeah, well, look, someone steps through this is I haven't
tried this, but apparently baking soda and water. Right, so
in the same way that if I if I burn
the pan, I put a bit of baking soda in
there and leave it overnight. Yeah, you know that will work.
There are some chemical treatments, there are some industrial treatments.

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Someone suggested that, you know, once you sort of cured it,
you could seal the block work as well, but that
that would mean sealing all of the exterior brickwork of building.

Speaker 17 (01:18:49):
And it's only in one particular area.

Speaker 11 (01:18:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
Look, I think treat it to remove it and then
a little bit of it might come back, but it
probably won't.

Speaker 17 (01:19:00):
Oh that's interesting.

Speaker 11 (01:19:01):
Okay, that's all the very best.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
Take Louise probably and Carl, good morning to you.

Speaker 3 (01:19:10):
Too.

Speaker 11 (01:19:11):
Well. Yeah, I've got a I've got wooden floors in
my house and just by the door where the sun
comes in, it's sort of the varnish or whatever is
kind of wearing offs, you know, I mean, what do
I need to do to maintainer? Do I need to
revanish it or send it down or what do I do?

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
I mean, look varnishes or you know, any sort of
polyurethane that we tend to put on our Presume it's
it's natural timber floor. Right, So it's a remo or
a matti or car or something like that. Right, those
those surfaces, I guess have a lifespan. At a certain
point it will start to decay in an area like

(01:19:55):
that near a front door. Possibly it gets exposure to sunlight,
also wet feet, that sort of thing that that tends
to accelerate it. Most of the time, what's involved is
actually seen the floor back to be a timber and
then re polyurethaning. But you can only do that once
or twice. The really challenging thing. And funnily enough, I

(01:20:18):
was doing this on Thursday, right, I pulled out a
toilet that was sitting on a cowry timber floor, and
the new toilet was going to have a slightly smaller
footprint than the existing one, and so where there would
be a bit of exposed timber left. In fact, it

(01:20:38):
wasn't even exposed. It was from the original renovation side
of being polyurethane, so it samed that polyurethane off and
then try and blend in some new polyurethane to match
the blonded floor that had been done. Not a lot
of success to be fair, right, Well, it's really difficult.

(01:20:59):
Like typically you don't put polyurethane over polyurethane because they
don't right or if they do bond, you're still reliant
on the first coat not letting go. So typically the
approaches I'm going to send that off, but if it's
only let's say at the front door, then you're going
to have a join at a certain stage. This is

(01:21:23):
just these things have a lifespan, right, and so it's
serviceability over time which is the issue. What I could
suggest is is phone around a couple of floor sanders
in your area and get someone who's proficient with it
to come out and gives you some advice. You could
go to maybe a supplier of polyurethanes to see whether

(01:21:45):
they've got a solution. So in Auckland, for example, it's
Handley's do a lot of polyurethane supply for floor sanders.
I rang my mate Phil from freedom flooring to go, hey,
what can I do? And he kind of stepped me
through it. Look it looks okay, it's not perfect, but
what I've done worked Okay, So I send it back,

(01:22:07):
made up a little bit of blonding myself, and then
put it in there. Oh yeah, but if it's an
area in front of there, you could just mask it
off and have that area send it and redone. But
typically you try the floor.

Speaker 11 (01:22:21):
Yeah, but little pictures.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
Yeah, it's a bit challenging because you know, obviously blending
it in is kind of hard. But look, if you've
got some contacts, reach out to a floor standing guy
and see if they can come and have a look
at at it and give you some professional advice on
that that it might be a whole restrip and start again.
Thanks for your call, Carl. We will continue with your

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calls briefly after the break. News at eight is now.

Speaker 1 (01:22:50):
Doing up the house, storting the garden, asks Pete for
a hand. The resident builder with Peter Wolfcab calls dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
Yeah, News talks, Welcome back to the show. Slightly truncated
today because of course there is nuts anticipation. Head of
the All Blacks versus Lost Bomas versus Australia Argentina kickoff
just after nine o'clock. We will start coverage here at
Newstalk SEDB from eight forty five this morning, so the

(01:23:21):
Root will be along shortly and then we will jump
into the garden with Root from about eight twenty this morning.
Still got time for a couple of building questions. If
you'd like to fire them through, you can call me
right now on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty actually
just quickly. I went along to the New Zealand Green

(01:23:43):
Building Council Property Summit twenty twenty five earlier this week,
which was awesome to be fair, and this is you know,
I mean there's there's people who are presenting who have
represent property portfolios that are worth two billion dollars. So
there's there's some fairly heavy hitters there, these sort of

(01:24:07):
property managers, property owning companies that have vast developments. And
what's interesting is they're there at a green property summit,
right So they're there because they want their buildings to
be more energy efficient, they want their buildings to be
better for the environment, they want their buildings to be
better for the people that occupy them. And then there

(01:24:27):
was a number of experts who are presenting on You know,
for example, glenn Brook Steel Mill is putting in an
electric arc furnace. Now that's going to be a significant
change to how we make steel in New Zealand because suddenly,
instead of a lot of carbon heavy products, we're going
to be able to use electricity as part of that process.

(01:24:47):
So there was lots of really technical stuff in there. Well,
I tell you what. The thing that ne're listening to
the presenters chatting with people, talk to a couple of
people who have been on this program, for example, over
the years, and my takeaway was, and I think this
is a tremendous success for the Green Building Council New

(01:25:09):
Zealand Green Building Council and the people that work there
and the Elite leader Chief Executive Andrew Eagles, is that
they have managed to make green buildings simply good buildings.
So when people are talking about I'm going to get
a Green Star rating for my office complex here in town,

(01:25:29):
or my warehouses which can now be eligible for Green
Star ratings as well, it's simply because they know in
the end they're going to be just better buildings. So
I've been involved with us for ten twelve thirteen years
or thereabout. So did the Home Star course way back then,
and then it was all about sort of green being

(01:25:49):
a kind of political or a social movement and so on,
Whereas I think what's really really interesting now is that
green buildings are simply better buildings. It's as simple as that.
You want a really good building that doesn't cost your
fortune to heat or to call that's a healthier environment
for people to live in. You're going to have a
green building. And from commercial point of view, it seems

(01:26:11):
that they are very very attractive to corporates who are
looking for what's the best place for my people to
work in. I'm going to get a green building, So
hats off to the Green Building Council for being part
of that movement. I thought it was a great day,
actually really enjoy it. Lots of people, lots of passion,
and phenomenal level of detail from the experts that were

(01:26:32):
presenting too, So it was a great day. Rdio ten
minutes after eight. You've got a couple of minutes if
you'd like to jump in and ask a question before
we change gear and get into the garden with Redcline past.
Here's a great text we are doing alterations to a batch.
I've lined the raking ceiling with standard ply. It's unpainted
and we haven't been back for a couple of weeks,
so it's been shut up as in the building's been

(01:26:54):
closed in. I've noticed that there's mold starting to appear
on parts, which I assume is from the moisture that's
trapped in the room as we're unable to leave the
windows open the rooms about six by seven. What's the
best way to get rid of it? And should we
be worried, we will paint it soon. There's two parts
of that. There's the practical part of what do I

(01:27:15):
do now that there's some mold growth on the ceiling.
The other part of it is this is a perfect
example of many of the concerns being raised about. We've
got one part of the building envelope working properly in
terms of air tightness, but we haven't got the other

(01:27:35):
part of building science, the other balance to that, which
is ventilation. And so this is a perfect example of
what happens when buildings aren't able to be ventilated. The
moisture will be there, the warmth will be there, and
the combination of the truth too will promote mold growth.

(01:27:56):
So no constellation to you, but thank you for that
science experiment indicating what happens when we have moisture. Because
it's new building products, right, they all contain moisture some degree.
The framing will have moisture in it, the lining possibly
will have moisture in it, and then you've closed that
space up and so you've trapped all of that moisture

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and don't have the ventilation. So practical thing would be
you're going to have to come back there. You're going
to have to ventilate that space. You're gonna have to
get the moisture content down, and then you're going to
have to treat that plywood with something that will remove
that mold and let it thoroughly dry out before if
you're going to paint it, I'm presuming going to use

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like a flat paint on there, do the primer. If
it's tongue and groove for example, it might be treated,
in which case you probably need to use an oil
based primer or a stain blocking primer and then paint.
But it's going to be key to test the moisture
content to make sure that you're down around seventeen eighteen

(01:28:57):
degrees moisture content in that space before you start painting
and treat that mold. But a fantastic example of what
happens when we don't ventilate our bil things properly. Another
quick one just before the break as well, just repairing
a badly split window sill. What's the best glue and
filler to fix and seal blue screw and builder's bog

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then paint. I would suggest Greg that if you can
get like what was I using the other day, I
think it's epiglass builder's glue, so a two part blue,
mix it up, pop that into there, so increase the
split a little bit, open it up, either clamp it
or screw it together. And then increasingly I've been using

(01:29:41):
this Epo Tech filler, which you'll have to go online
to find a local distributor, so ep O Tec Epo Tech. Again,
it's a two pot one. It takes twelve hours to cure,
so it's a chemical reaction for it to cure. I
found it really easy to sand when I've painted it.
It actually takes paint really well, and that would be

(01:30:06):
my approach. So a two pot adhesive and then a
two pot filler as well, oh, eight hundred eighty ten
eighty might have time for your calls, and then we're
into the garden. Rid climb past will be with us shortly.

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Now this is a fairly serious one, I think, Wendy
hopefully still listening.

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Pete.

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I recently bought an older house that's been rewired, including
undergrounding from the road. I now understand that this should
have a certificate of compliance as COC it does. I
believe the real estate agent should have known this and
declared that it didn't. Could I go back to the
agent and get them or the seller to rectify this.

(01:32:16):
When you say recently bought, I presume that's sometime in
the last couple of years. Would should the real estate
agent have known only if they were informed by the
owner by the vendor right either way. I mean, I
find it hard to believe that there's not a paper

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trail for the undergrounding of power because in the end,
while a electrician could do the trenching, put the conduit in,
maybe even put the mains, they can't connect to the
pole right, and they they need to get that signed
off by since the power company. Right, they'll send out

(01:32:58):
an inspector. So there should be a paper trail for that.
But certainly any electrical work should have a certificate of
compliance without a doubt. So yes, you could go back
to the cellar and say, hey, look do you have
the paperwork to support the work that's been done, if
that work was done recently. Again, last year sometime I

(01:33:23):
was involved with a project where overhead lines were being
removed and so they had underground to a property that
I'd done some work on, and I was able to
talk to the contractors about how they were going to
get onto the property, which what was the pathway for
the underground cable, how they were going to get the
new cable which previously had been overhead to come up

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and into the distribution or to the meter box on
the outside of the building, and at the end of
that they sent me through the paperwork to say who
had done it, who'd inspected it, and it was kind
of double checked by two different inspectors because obviously it's
incredibly high risk work putting in a new Maine so yes,
there should be paperwork for that, RIGHTO, We're going to
take a short break, then we're going to jump into

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