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August 30, 2025 17 mins

On The Garden Hour with Pete Wolfkamp and Ruud Kleinpaste Full Show Podcast for 31st August 2025, Ruud discusses when the best time is to prune and cut flowering plants, how to accurately determine the change of seasons, and what seeds are best for bird-feeding.

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp
from News Talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
At Climb past A. Very good morning, sir, Hello root, Hello, hello, hello.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Don't you hear me? There you go?

Speaker 2 (00:24):
I got you, Sure, I got you.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
I don't know what you did there, but I was
on this particular.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
And don't let me touch buttons, that's all. That's all.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yeah, it's funny, that, isn't it touching? But especially when
you got five million on your desk.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Your hands in your pocket and the role really.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Now you realized I was with with with the beginning
of the what do you call it, the habit of humanity? Yeah,
at megan with Maggie's Gun Show. Fantastic, that was literally
all twenty five thirty something like that. Yeah, amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, they're fantastic, hear that?

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah, fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
I mean there's lots of really cool people doing stuff
in that space. But but you know, I remember building
or being part of a crew that built a house
in a week, you know, that type of thing. That
would have been ten years ago. So they're not I
don't know if they're doing much of that now, but
they're still so active in that space. And again, my
thanks still rained for that wonderful text just a moment ago.

(01:26):
Now are you driving? Does it drive you mad when
you're listening to the weather forecasts and the news and
people are going, right, tomorrow's the first day of spring
and you you want to throw something at the screen.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Of course, yeah, I thought, so, this is nonsense.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
I didn't mean to raise that to just get you,
and I figured that.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
I said, yes, sir, I said to Jack, I said, look,
I've had enough of it. You know, people who just
don't understand what storytelling is about and how this blenet operates,
you know, And I find it strange that's scientists of
New one and all these groups actually keep on going
and no, you know, you get TV three saying yeah,
but this is the official start new of the Left Spring.

(02:04):
But it's not as it no, not exactly not Just.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
To be clear, when is the first day of.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Spring twenty third of September. Thank you very much for
it again. And if you're in the middle of say
of New Zealand, say Wellington, yep at six twenty in
the morning, I think you want you're going to go
to that sort of stuff too. I don't mind. It's
just a matter of this is when you have this,
the time of day and night is the same if
you like, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Wonderful? Right, Oh, let's get into the garden. A couple
of quick texts. I'm so tempted to answer this myself,
but I'm going to restrain myself. Hi, just wanting to
know win to prune a large mature plum tree and
a fig tree from Carl.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Oh, that's easy that the plum tree is very simple.
It's after fruiting, right, so that'll be summer if you like.
You know when when you when the plum trees is
when the plums have gone. Basically that's a good time
to do it. So this is exactly the wrong to
have to do it right now. But that's that is
a good one. But he also wrote about the fig
tree right yes, now, vic tree is now late winter

(03:11):
early spring. There you go.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Boom, Okay, so plum tree like me, I'm too late.
I gotta wait till next yep.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
If you've got fixes right now, yeah, because it's still
it basically hasn't got any flow of leaves on it
and things like that. Right light pruning can be done
midsummer if you like. But that's about it.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Now someone's also sent through ticks with regard to roses. Hey,
christ for it, Why are my roses still flowering? Same
thing happened last year and they're in livin.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah, there are varieties of roses that can actually do that.
If they're in the right spot, nice and sunny and
out of frost, if you like, they will go for
a long time. And that seems to be I don't
know if that's a new variety or a thing that
they've been breeding for, you know what I mean. But yeah,
it's becoming more and more common these days. There you are,

(04:01):
might have something to do with out climate, saying.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, no, absolutely right he oh, if you've got a
question for it, gives a call. Oh, eight one hundred
and eighty ten eighty is that number? Hollow gale?

Speaker 4 (04:14):
Hi, I'm worrying about my futures. They've never stopped flowering,
and usually they flower or summer a pretty scungy in
the winter. Do I cut them back?

Speaker 3 (04:26):
You could if you like, if that's what you're so
like to do. But if you like the look of futures,
why not leave let them go? I mean, you go on, they're.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Just flowering like they normally do all summer. Will they
flower all summer?

Speaker 3 (04:41):
I have no idea. I cannot tell you that exactly.
But some again, some varieties of plants are starting to
develop the strange way of flowering and fruiting and things
like that, and taking different times of the year to
do it or go longer. As we just discussed with
the roses, for instance, I would just enjoy it, and

(05:02):
I would if I were you. If you want to you,
if you want to cut, you know, prune them, if
you like, do it at the time when there's no flowers.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
Well, there won't be a time when there's no flowers,
that's the problem.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Yeah, well when when you know, when the numbers have
gone down a bit. That's really what I'm trying to say.
But no, I was you got it? Why don't you
do this program? You're really good at this. But you know,
and and the best thing is this a few ship
that you've got in the pot.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
You know, it's a hybrid future timer, the big one
with orange tuebilla flowers.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Uh huh. And so it's outside is it against the
stone walls? Yeah? Yeah, Okay, Well how do you how
do you water? Do you water it?

Speaker 4 (05:53):
No, not really. But generally if they if I've sort
of got the hose, I might give them a water,
but they don't seem to really need it.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
No.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
But but the point is that if you do use
that watering idea, why not use a water with some
liquid fertilizer. And that means exact so you can have
all sorts of liquid fertilizers. My favorite one for flowering
plants like yours is seawed tea. From the wet and

(06:22):
yet seaweed tea. You mix that up with a bit
of water till it becomes this if you like the
look of very weak tea. Literally that's quite a nice one,
and you use it as a watering thing. And at
the same time you put the potash in there, and
that means, oh, we can flower on, we can keep
on going.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
Oh well, so when would I do there?

Speaker 3 (06:47):
I would do that from in a couple of weeks
time onwards. So when you get your first spring development
of new material on the plant, that's when it needs
that little bit of fertilizer, and.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
I'd cut it back at the same time.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah good too, Yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Can I add a comment please? I wonder whether what
you've done with your futures is also create like a
little micro climate, because your comment about the fact that
the futures are planted near the wall and it's a
masonry wall, and what you'll get is essentially passive soul again, right,
so the wall will absorb some of that energy and

(07:25):
it will be warmer there than it would if they
were located somewhere else. And is them grow as well
or continue flowering?

Speaker 4 (07:34):
I'm sure you're right, because we've got one against a
creoso all that's flowering madly too.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Right, How interesting? That's great, that's great.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
It makes It makes quite a few degrees difference.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Hey, yeah, it would do.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
Yeah, that's right, nice one.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Nice to talk.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Lovely to talk to you. Ga.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
You have a great day. Now let's do the controversy.
I'll read the text and will reply after the break, right,
you can calm down here we go. Sorry, but both
of you are wrong. Can I just add that I
actually didn't Sorry, both of you are wrong. The first
day of spring is when the weather makes its first
upwards turn from the coldest time of winter. This year,

(08:15):
the first day of spring was approximately the seventh of August.
Every single person in nation knows this. M Kiwi by
the way. Anyway, we'll contemplate that. Calm you, calm yourself,
and we'll be back after the break, right, I wrould
you want to respond to that?

Speaker 3 (08:30):
I'd love it. I think this is exactly the reason
why I was always going on about the time. And
you know what I mean, because there's two ways of
doing it. One is, there's actually many ways of doing it.
If you have a story like this, especially in where
was this in which area we're talking about, I've lost it.

(08:56):
I've lost it. I've lost the text. Don't worry. So
if you if you're talking about looking at what he
wrote in terms of the storytelling, yes, it's a storytelling
thing from a certain area in a certain part of
the right at least that has its complete story around it.

(09:16):
It doesn't say one.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Of September, remember, not an arbitrary date.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
No, it's not an arbitrary date. That's lovely. And the
other one that that I was talking about was basically
the time of of if you like the equal amount
of day as equal amount of light, both of them
between are fine. But you're saying first of September because
it can't be bothered looking something's.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
My calendar to see when the first December falls and
the hope that it's not a Sunday, and we have
this conversation about the start of summer.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
Exactly exactly, But those are exactly That's what I do
with kids and teachers. You're making these stories up and
there you go. You do it.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
It's great, fantastic. Someone has also text her and said,
I've also heard the first day of springers when the
first staffodils come out. Well, I've seen deathdels around.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Yes, and they actually go met winter almost round. Yeah.
And and that sort of timing is also to do
with not That's another thing that I hate people saying,
because there's what is it with, for instance, with dafodils.
The dafodils are late this year, means we're going to
get a bad summer, right have you? Can you do

(10:31):
you think plants can can actually predict the weather for
the next three weeks or four weeks. No, it can't.
It can only it can Plants can only what do
you call it, do their thing as a result of
what happened in the past. They can't predict it, you know,
all that sort of It's just hilarious.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
But no, I like that, right, now a couple of
other tics come through. We can take calls, but we'll
take the texts as well. Can you please ask Jason
what time of year we would prune cut back a
Pahota cowa tree there in Papa.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
More, Pokawa. I would do that in after all the
flowering has been happening, So you do it in winter time,
I would say, yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Because I've noticed we have one of our place that
we're starting to see the sus new buds arrive.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
You got it. That's right. There are some metrocedros that
are already having quite lovely buds right now, and that'll
be flowering. Metrosidrus, the small one, the red one is
absolutely corgeous. That will be flowering in about three four
weeks time, I would say. In chrast Church, yep, yep, brilliant. Nice.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Now, is it too late to spray a dwarf peach
tree with copper once the buds have started to form
they've had some issues with leaf curl.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yeah, there's that is a that is a late comer
as well. No, do not use copper copper on the
new buds. Copper can actually do a little bit of
quite a bit of damage to your new crop. So
so when you use the copper, you use it at
the time when your leaves are falling off the tree,

(12:10):
which is usually April or mayish something like that depends
on when it is, and you give them a double
dose of copper. You won't burn your leaves that way,
and you actually kill the little the leaf curl if
you like, fungus at the time when it gets winter,
and that means you will have very little problems in spring,

(12:32):
which is coming up very soon as we now know.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Right, Christmas beetles inundated last year during camping. Is that cyclical?
They're in the corimandle.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Yeah, Christmas beetle is one of those words that has
a lot. There's a lot of beetles that belong to
the same family if you like. They will be going
in early summer or late spring if you like. That's
the time when they all try to find a girlfriend
and a boyfriend and away we go. They lay eggs, boom,

(13:02):
go into the soil and the grubs will then start
mucking around with the plants underground.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Fantastic And just a quick note before we talked to Trisha,
just when we're wrapping up the conversation with Conrad from
Habitat for Humanity. Someone ticked through and said, you know,
I love the conversation. I've just made a donation. The
way to do that is just go to Habitat dot
org dot z. That's really really simple, right, And you've
been involved with them for twenty five years, way back then, fair, we.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Started when they started, We supported them when we Didniggi's
Gun Show on TV one.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah, fantastic, right, Oh, Trish talk to us about the birds.

Speaker 5 (13:40):
And I feed them every morning and every night. Yes,
and I buy a bird seed. But I just wanted
to talk to Rude about some of the seeds that
they don't eat. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah, Well, I've just put some seed out because I
was hoping that maybe my grandson would come over and
we would catch some birds with a net and then
put bands around their legs, which is something that I
do with him because he loves that and he's he's
pretty good at it too.

Speaker 5 (14:10):
So the seeds, I didn't I didn't realize it was
you that came on the phone.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
Yeah, I got it, I got it. I love some
of us.

Speaker 5 (14:22):
I love I love your compassion for all creatures, great
and small. It's wild wild value wild bird seed about
seventy dollars a bag, seventeen dollars a bag. And there's
some seeds that's are black that they don't eat. And

(14:46):
there's another one that's sort of a baby color, like
a tear drop, and they don't eat that one either.
And I've got you know, I've got three bird feeders
out here on the on the lawn, one hanging in
a tree. And they've also got a lovely bird bath.

(15:07):
And then at lunch time I cut up pears and
apples for them and they love that. Someone will have
to tell them when I die because I'm eighty three.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Oh you're wonderful. I think you're wonderful. Look first of all,
do you chuck the seeds just on the lawn?

Speaker 5 (15:29):
Oh no, no, I've got yeah, I've got a lovely
little bird feeder.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
You've got a seed feeder. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:36):
No, it's just a dish that I bought. I don't
know where I got it, but it's just like a dish,
but you know, it's got a little bird each side,
and it's on a short I got it.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
What I would do is can you can you can
you try this out? Because I reckon you will. There
are many different birds that prefer many different types of seeds.
So if you look at the finches, a goldfinch would
be different from a greenfinch, with from a cheffinch, which
et cetera. And then there are other birds that the danaks,

(16:11):
that go for different things and they only eat most
of those things from the soil. So what I tried,
what I would do if I were you, do a
little trial for yourself. Get a handful of those seeds
with all these different varieties and spread them out in
the middle part of your lawn, for instance, and you
will get different birds eating those, and they don't hang

(16:32):
up on your on your seed feeder that you've got
hanging up somewhere. No, No, others like to be on
the ground, and they might well be the once. Yes,
why not.

Speaker 5 (16:45):
Time to time when when the lawn spens sprayed, you know,
by my gardener, and I just worried that, you know,
you know, we.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Need to have a chat about why your gardener is
spraying a.

Speaker 5 (16:57):
Lawn every man or not very often?

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Probably is it a need for that?

Speaker 5 (17:06):
Well, I don't know. I'm not a cat.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
No wrong, no, no, I get it there, but no
I wouldn't be too worried. Let me tell you, I
never spray the lawn with anything. My lawn looks like
looks like real rubbish. And all the birds love every
seat because I buy the same seeds that you do.
I know now with all the colors. Yes, of course
I do. And now what I do is and I

(17:29):
hang a net above it, and we catch the birds,
and then we know exactly who is who. We give
them names.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
We're we're going to run.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
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