Full Show Podcast: 18 January 2026

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter wolf
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Sawdust, sunshine and solid advice.

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and eighty to eighty us Talk, said B'.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 3 (00:27):
In the yard, even when the dog is too old
to barn, and when you're sitting at the table trying
not to stop.

Speaker 4 (00:39):
Scissor hole, even when we leave again, even when you're
there alone.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
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you got around from the word to let most.

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Speaker 4 (01:13):
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be even when you're in their alone.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
And a very good morning and welcome along to the
Resident Builder on Sunday. That's with me, Pet wolf Camp,
the Resident Builder and your opportunity to talk all things
building and construction and action. Just even thinking back in
the last couple of weeks of being back in the
studio and in the topics that we've discussed an incredibly
wide range. So really, if it's got to do with housing,

(02:00):
if it's got to do to some degree with land,
if it's got to do with rules regulation, if it's
products and new ideas and innovation, if it's changes to
the Building Act and the building rules, and there's been
some fairly significant ones. We'll take a bit of a
dive into that later on, particularly around the granny flat legislation,
which has now come into play, right, so it's now law.

(02:25):
Technically you can go to the council with some information
about what you want to build and go ahead and
build up to seventy square meters with a whole lot
of rules. There's still rules. This is one of the
things that I think has been not particularly well presented
maybe by the media in terms of there are still rules.

Speaker 6 (02:48):
Right.

Speaker 5 (02:48):
So if suddenly next week you see seventy square meters
being built in your neighbor's backyard but it doesn't seem
like they've talked to anyone about it, then chances are
that's just going to be more illegal building, like we've
already seen illegal buildings around the country. So that's in
law now we can take a bit of a deep
into that. We can talk about the specific products that

(03:09):
you might need, the tools and tricks and tips for
your projects. I was, in actual one of one of
the hardware stores. Yesterday bumped into someone that I kind
of know through school and that sort of thing, and
it's like, oh, well, I'm doing this little project and
I might need this, and so I've come in to
pick up I guess those missing items out of either
my toolkit or the materials that I might have at

(03:33):
home to finish a job. So if you're if you've
started something, maybe it's going well, maybe it's not, and
you want some advice, well we can talk about that
on the show this morning. So at almost ten minutes
after six on a rainy old day here in Auckland,
we've had well, we've had a couple of days of
absolutely spectacular weather, just gorgeous weather, and then I think

(03:56):
the other night was the better part of forty milimeters
of rain overnight, and today pretty much rained all night
as well. So if you thinking, gosh, I want to
and I'm sort of in the same boat, I've got
a couple of jobs that require reasonably settle dry periods
of weather to dry out weather boards and scribers and

(04:19):
flashings and that sort of thing. And every time it
feels like the timbers dried out just enough, we get
another decent belt of rain, although I have to say
last night's rain felt like it was the perfect summer rain,
not too much enough to soak into the garden and
keep the garden fresh, all that sort of thing. But
at the same time, it's probably set me back another

(04:41):
four or five days on a task that I wanted
to do to repair some windows and some timber joinery
and that sort of thing, just because it's now saturated
again and you need to have that thoroughly dried. So
that's where I'm at. Where are you at? What projects
have you got on? What would you like to talk about?
Maybe you'd like to get stuck into this whole granny
flat legislation in terms of its now law, What do

(05:02):
you understand about it? What questions might you have about it?
Not It's fair to say in the sector that not
everyone thinks that this is necessarily going to be a
good idea. So there's a fair amount of discussion, chatter, discussion, debate, discussion,
argument online and within certain sector groups, professional bodies within

(05:27):
the industry going yeah, I'm not so sure that they've
thought through all of the possible ramifications of that. Maybe
you have, we can talk about it, But otherwise, if
it's practical and you want to get stuck into a project, well,
give us a call right now. The lines are open.
The number is eight hundred eighty ten eighty. The text
is up and running as well. That's nine two nine
two or zbzb from your mobile phone. And if you'd

(05:50):
like to send me an email, give me a minute
to figure out what my password is. Could we have
to change it all the time And that should be
up and running as well in just a couple of minutes.
That's Pete at newstalksb dot co dot nz. So Pete
at newstalksb dot co dot nz. But right now the
lines are open. The number to call eight hundred eighty
ten eighty.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Sorting those summer fixes before the barbecue crowd arrives. The
resident builder with Peter Wolfcab call Oh, eight hundred eighty
ten eighty news talks.

Speaker 5 (06:17):
That'd be your news talks. He'd be right it is.
I know it's a little bit wet and miserable out there,
but that doesn't mean it's wet and hopefully not wet
and miserable inside. So if you've got a question, get
on the line. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is
that number to call. A couple of emails have come in, actually,
some of them following up from a discussion that we

(06:38):
had last week, a reasonably in depth one about a
situation where an existing building that happened to be closer
than a meter to the boundary nineteen seventies construction cross
lease to units, and maybe as a result of that,
so it was the other cross least unit. It is rare,
even with well, you'd have to go back to well

(07:00):
into the turn of last century to find like old
wooden houses. I flatted for a number of years in ponson,
Me and there would have been I don't know it,
maybe eight hundred millimeters between our house and the house
next door right, and that wasn't uncommon through those areas.
And I presume one of the houses was probably on
the boundary or quite close to the boundary, and the

(07:21):
other house was set back, but there was I'd be
trying to think if you were a little bit careful,
you could get a z thal down there without the
handlebars touching either side of the house. So I'm guessing
that's somewhere around seven hundred millimeters something like that. So
in this particular instance, someone had kind of got caught.

(07:43):
Let's say the house was there, it's existing. They wanted
to do some alterations which required a building consent, which
meant that council looked at the entire building, including that
part of the building that was then less than one
meter from the legal boundary between the two titles or
between the two units rather through a cross lease situation,

(08:05):
and required the owner to then replace the existing joinery
with fire rated joinery. So we've had a couple of
emails on that, one about fire rated joining the other
a suggestion actually that for that particular instance may be
fitting a sprinkless system as a fire suppression system would

(08:26):
meet council requirements to ensure that fire doesn't spread from
one dwelling to the other. So thanks for that. Actually,
I'm just trying to see who suggested that. Where did
we go with that particular email? It did come from
a designer who was keen for a bit of a plug,
Bernie from kiwikad Design in the way Cuto, thanks very

(08:50):
much for your email. I do appreciate it, so I
eight hundred eighty ten eighty. If you have a question,
there's a couple of plumbing questions that have come through
as well, but the lines are open, calls are better.
Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call,
eight hundred eighty ten. Couple of texts are coming through
as well. The new law will be a lawyer's dream

(09:10):
and a buyer's nightmare. I presume Owen, you're talking about
the introduction of the for want of a breader phrase.
It's the granny flat legislation. A minister with deep pockets
and legal training can't imagine how fraught this is for
buyers without financial resilience, and those who will have their
lifestyle and the appeal of the home their biggest investment

(09:32):
ruined by having outbuildings jammed up against their boundaries. Regards
from Owen, how well you raise a very good point.
You know, if it's permissible for your neighbor, let's say,
to build, it might not be seventy it's you know,
the way in which we talk about it as often
it's got to be seventy square meters. It doesn't. It's

(09:52):
just it can be up to seventy square meters. So
it might be you know, a thirty five square meter
minor dwelling or simple standalone dwelling SSD, or granny flat
in the back yard, and interestingly enough, it can be
within a meter of the boundary, and it will inevitably

(10:13):
be at least two point four meters tall, possibly taller
because it's going to be on timber piles, in which case,
let's say you're four hundred out of the ground, then
the thickness of your bears it's another two hundred, so
you're at six hundred two point four stud you're at
three meters bit of roof, et cetera, et cetera. You know,
three point two meters high roughly one meter from your

(10:36):
boundary is going to have an impact on neighbors. And
do you have a right to object? I don't know
that you do. It's going to be really interesting is
a terrible word to use in this instance, but that's
exactly what it's going to be. It's going to be
really interesting to see how this washes up. And I
think some of the concerns that people have are legitimate.

(11:00):
Undoubtedly we'll get a chance to get the Minister responsible,
Chris Pink back in the studio with us, probably in
the not too distant future, maybe to answer your questions
on exactly that. Now that it is law, and theoretically
you can go ahead, if your section is suitable and
make an application for one of these simple standalone dwellings

(11:21):
in the backyard. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty the
number to call. A couple more texts coming through to
I'll address those in just a moment right now, Simon,
are very good morning to you.

Speaker 7 (11:30):
Yeah, good morning, hey, Yeah, I have a question. So
occasionally I have mice coming into the house, and so
I had a look under the house. It's raised house,
and I had to look underneath, and I found that
there's a copper hot water pipe going into through a

(11:50):
timber into the wall, yep, and there's a gap around
the hot water pipe. Yes, I have a feeling that
mice might be getting in through that gap. Can I
plug that up with something like steel wool? Steel wool,
I've actually.

Speaker 5 (12:08):
Heard a number of people use steel wool because apparently
the miceton't like eating it as opposed to using like
a fiber or something like that. So, yes, steel wool
is quite a good suggestion. And you know, you could
always sort of tear it into shreds or into strips
and plug the gaps. The other thing is that like

(12:28):
today it's reasonably common practice for plumbers, once they've done
penetrations like that to actually just use a bead of
sealant around there as well, So a typical plumber's sealant
of plumber's silicon. If the GAP's not too big and
the sealant will hold in there, you could also use

(12:49):
the sealant. I think we've had a discussion about this
before and people were saying if you use the expanding foam,
it's a little bit more difficult to control. But also
in some instances, the rats will actually gnaw their way
through the foam if they think there's something better on
the other side. So yeah, steel wall's great idea.

Speaker 7 (13:07):
Oh okay, oh good, okay. So it won't cause any
other problems like with the hot water and overheating or anything.

Speaker 8 (13:13):
No, no, no no.

Speaker 5 (13:15):
And in many cases, you know, if you look at
hot water pipes that come from the cylinder, they're often
insulated with like a foam with its sleeve anyway. So
in fact, you could argue that insulating your hot water
pipe all the way to the source, like from the
source to the outlet is probably quite a good idea
because that water will cool down. So yeah, no that

(13:38):
that shouldn't be a problem at all.

Speaker 7 (13:40):
Oh, very good, no trouble.

Speaker 5 (13:41):
And in fact, again another thing is often like at
the back of kitchen cabinets and that sort of thing
when penetrations are cut through for you know, waste pipes
and so on. Inspectors now check that those have got
like a little PVC seal, like a little rubber plate
or a plastic plate that goes over them. Just again
to stop the possibility of vermin getting inside your house.

(14:05):
So yep, yeah, go for it.

Speaker 7 (14:07):
Okay, all the.

Speaker 5 (14:08):
Very best to you, take care, Simon, thank you. Oh wait,
one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call?
Can you please advice? Is the texter? Sally?

Speaker 9 (14:17):
This for you?

Speaker 5 (14:18):
Can you please advise the best type of sander for
prepping weather boards. I'm waiting for my nineteen twelve villa
to dry so that I can begin Any other tips
would be appreciated, Sally, you and me both mine's nineteen
oh five, I think. But yeah, same thing. I need
to do some repairs and maintenance around the outside of
the house. I really need it to dry out thoroughly,

(14:40):
but thus far every time it does, then we get
a belt of rain not too long afterwards. So look
what I would typically do in terms of prepping. Oh
now we are going to be talking with Bryce, our
painting expert from Razine at seven twenty. So if you've
got any specific painting related questions, feel three texts those
through as well. Bryce will be with us and just

(15:00):
on an hour's time. But to answer your question Sally,
weather boards, I guess if you're unsure about what you've
got in terms of paint on there, maybe go and
do a test just to make sure you don't have
lead based paint there. If you've tested that and you
know that you don't, then you can race into preparing

(15:22):
those boards. Otherwise, you can still do the preparation. You
just need to be a bit mindful of the fact
that there will be lead that you want to capture that,
and you don't want lots of dust and you want
to protect yourself as well, So test for lead first.
Typically for weather boards, paint bubbling splits and cracks and
that sort of thing. I tend to just look at

(15:42):
the entire area and target those areas where the paint
started to peel off or bubble off with a tungsten
scraper first. To scrape that off. It gets a lot
of material off in a relatively short period of time.
Then I've actually got a eighteen volt cordless aeg disc

(16:02):
orbital sander that I'll put like a forty grit pad on,
hit those areas and take off any other loose material.
Once I've knocked that back, then i'll spot prime with
oil based paint. Let that thoroughly dry if it's if
you want a really smooth finish, then typically you do

(16:25):
a little bit of filling where the paint has come
off so that it's flush. Then I go over the
top of that filler again with a bit of oil base.
Then I'll do a crylic undercoat then or acrylic primer,
and then I'll go to my crylic top coats from there,
So tungsten scraper, random orbital sander. The one that I've
got is the Newish ag one, very nice, very compact,

(16:50):
plenty of grunt forty grit paper and because they've got
an extraction port. If you can get yourself a vacuum cleaner,
an older one or a commercial one and plug an
extraction into there, that makes the job a lot, well
a lot more pleasant in the sense you don't have
dust billowing all over the place, even if you've got

(17:10):
a bag on the sander. But also sanders with extraction
work better than without, so having the vacuum attached to it,
sucking the dust away from the surface makes the sander
more effective has been my experience. So there you go.
Therese couple of tips and tricks for you in terms
of getting out and prepping for the weatherboards. Oh eight
hundred eighty ten eight and listen to the radio. That's

(17:32):
the other key. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is
the number to call. It is twenty six almost twenty
seven minutes after six lines free for you this morning.
It's a bit of a slow old start, so let's
get into it. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Ebit creaks, leaks, cracks or squeaks some is the time
to get it sort of call Oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty the resident builder with peterworldcab with news.

Speaker 5 (17:53):
Talks that b your news Talk se B are a
couple more texts that have come in as well. But
I'm not sure if I can really help you with this,
but I have a crack this from JB. Good morning,
can you please talk soon about insurances for tiny homes.
I guess the ultimate issue is that I'm not an
insurance broker, right, so I don't know what insurances will

(18:16):
be available for tiny homes. But in a couple of
discussions that I have had, it won't be too different
to ensuring what you've already got, because typically you're not ensuring.
When you're ensuring your home, it's for damage or loss
in the event of a fire or earthquake or something
like that. It's not about the quality that build necessarily

(18:39):
saying that. You know, if you go to your insurance say, look,
I've just built a sixty square meter self contained unit
under the new legislation in the backyard. I've been to council.
I've done the PM the project information memorandum in order
to get their permission to do it. I've had a
design submitted, and I can give you a copy of

(19:02):
the design, which the designer has told me it's code compliant.
The licensed building practitioner has undertaken the work and they've
given me a statement to say that they've built it
in accordance with the building code. And here's the COC
from the electrician. Here's a statement or an ass built
from the drain layer saying that that's all compliant. He's

(19:24):
a statement from the plumber saying that they've certified their work,
et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Here's all of the information.
Here's the final sign off from council. Can you please
ensure the building for fire damage? For example? So in
that sense, I think ensurers will be able to ensure
your building, but it won't be ensured for defects. That's

(19:47):
a different type of building. And actually that's a really
interesting one. Recent changes or proposed changes to building law
is that all new buildings and alterations over one hundred
thousand dollars will be required to have a mandate a

(20:09):
compulsory home warranty attached to them. So does a seventy
square meter new build that's built without necessarily requiring a
consent still require the provision of a warranty? It's a
new build tick, it's probably more than one hundred thousand dollars. Tick. Yes,

(20:32):
it will. Who would provide a warranty to a building
perhaps that doesn't have a building consent? That's going to
be an interesting one as well. I'm making notes for
myself questions to ask the Minister in the near future. Right,
let's talk all things building and construction. Daniel A very
good morning to you.

Speaker 9 (20:52):
Good morning reading, Good morning Peter. This is my first
time talking to here.

Speaker 5 (20:56):
Well, welcome aboard.

Speaker 9 (20:58):
Then listening to the morning the Sunday Morning Show. Anyway,
apartment buildings, Yes, I used to I build out and stuff.
I'm building background, been in the industry for years now.
What did we build here in Burkingheads? This this building,
these selling apartment buildings, selling apartments, individuals who own apartments

(21:25):
and the values of the apartments.

Speaker 8 (21:27):
That's my question.

Speaker 5 (21:31):
I'm not sure what the actual question is though.

Speaker 9 (21:33):
The question is like these metal weather boards and all,
they're really not that great.

Speaker 5 (21:46):
That's not really good. Again, that's not a question. That's
an opinion, and you're entitled to an opinion.

Speaker 9 (21:53):
Hued.

Speaker 5 (21:54):
Yeah, No, I hear what you're saying.

Speaker 9 (21:56):
What did they build here.

Speaker 5 (21:59):
As opposed to building overseas where perhaps you might build
more in block or concrete or stone or something like that.

Speaker 9 (22:06):
They're all metal surrounded by metal.

Speaker 6 (22:08):
On this one.

Speaker 5 (22:10):
Yeah, But there's no problem with metal cladding. If it's
metal cladding, that's you know, either got code mark or
brand's appraisal, and it's compliant with the building code.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
All of the fire.

Speaker 9 (22:25):
Living in actually living in these apartments. I always live
in residential house. I lived in an apartment.

Speaker 5 (22:33):
But I think that's a sort of for want of
a bitter phrase, I think that's kind of like a
maturity issue for us as New Zealanders, that it's not
something you know most of us. I think if you talk,
if you if you're a young person you're thinking about adulthood,
you have a picture in your head that goes, there's
a little cottage with a picket fence on a little land,

(22:53):
you know, separate to everybody else. But the reality is
is for every single city that I've ever visited that's
bigger than Auckland, that's not how people live, right. Significant
numbers of people live in apartments, They live in multi
level complexes. They may or may not have any outdoor

(23:15):
area at all, They may or may not have garages.
They might live eighteen floors off the ground. So I
think for a city to grow and for it to
get some density and some also a bit of vibrancy,
you need apartment living. Should they be good quality ones

(23:36):
one hundred percent they should. Is some of what we've
built poor quality? Yes, it is, because you can drive
around and see them tented and all the rest of
it while they're you know, remedia workers underway. So I
get where you've got sort of a concern around what's
being built and would it suit Would I want to
live in one? Maybe not right now, but at some stage.

(24:00):
I'll tell you what. The other day I went. I
had a bit of a family gathering at actually, of
all places, Swashbucklers right now, which if you're in Auckland
and you've ever come off the motorway, there's a restaurant
at west Haven called Swashbucklers. I'm not promoting the restaurants,
just that's where dinner was that night. Turned out to
be very nice dinner, by the way, But anyway, so

(24:21):
I hopped on the ferry landed at downtown and wandered
sort of through the viaduct through what used to be
you know, the port well, kind of like the fishing
area and all the rest of it. It was all
factories and fishing shops and that sort of thing for
a long time. There's a lot of new apartments, there's
a lot of new infrastructure, there's a lot of what

(24:41):
I think is quite nice civic planning in terms of
little pocket parks and the way that the pathways are
done and the storm water control is done. And as
I was wandering back from dinner back to the ferry,
I was thinking, actually, this feels kind of quite grown up.
It feels very mature. It feels like, actually, this could
be a really really lovely place to live. Now before
you get on and go, Yeah, but have you seen

(25:03):
the prices of them? Yes, it is desive. It's also
very close to the city. I mean, you know, I
think it was about a fifteen minute walk for me
to go from the restaurant back to the ferry. You
could be it in downtown within a couple of minutes.
They've got the bridge working again, which is awesome. Actually,
the pool that they've developed inside the viaduct there is

(25:26):
incredibly popular with people as well, So there's some really
clever urban planning going on in that area. It felt great.
Now I've got a couple of mates who live around there. Yeah,
it's awesome. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. But yeah,
there's also rubbish apartments unfortunately that have been built and
if you're in one of those, it probably doesn't feel

(25:46):
that great, Bruce. Good morning to you, morning Pete and
enjoying your program. Thanks mate, nice to chat with you, Pete.

Speaker 10 (25:54):
I've got a friend who's bought a team Maker block
and it's got a wallshit on it. That is, the
previous owners started building it into a home. It's not consented.
Can my free continue turning this set into a house

(26:14):
into a home without having consent as long as it's
done by a LBP.

Speaker 5 (26:21):
No short answer. Okay, sorry, there's more to the question,
I know, but the short answer is no. So in
order for that building to become a habitable space, so
obviously it's a bullshed. Someone started doing some work they
haven't had building consent for that work. Your friend would

(26:44):
be best advised to They'll need to go to a designer,
submit some plans to counsel. I'd be really honest with
counsel and say this work has already been done, and
include that work in the drawings. So if there's already
some petitions that have been put up and that sort

(27:06):
of thing, you may well have to. Like, you know,
for example, one of the issues will be what's the
insulation in the exterior walls, and if there is insulation
in there, is there some building paper as well behind it,
those sorts of things in order for it to comply.
So I don't necessarily know that it would require stripping
out all of the work that's already been done, but

(27:26):
it would need to be inspected and proven to comply
with the building code and then included in the new
building consent. Once all of that work's being completed, go
for a CCC and it's a habitable space. And I
think the biggest reason that, well, no, the most important
reason is you want to be ensuring that you're living

(27:48):
in a compliant building that's going to look after you.
The other really important thing is inevitably when you go
to sell it, you're going to have the same problem,
which is trying to sell something that is not consented,
and people will either use that to beat you around
the head and drive the price down, or they just
buy it because they can't get lending on it.

Speaker 6 (28:09):
Okay, Okay, that's fine, very much.

Speaker 5 (28:12):
Yeah, Unfortunately, it's a straight out get a consent, get
it all upgraded, get it all compliant, and then you
know it'd be worth the investment. Okay, I'm hoping you
very I'm nice to chat with you all the best.
Take care by by that, oh eight one hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call. New law
on the Granny Flats is a texter we put a

(28:32):
transportable has to be two meters off the boundary. I'm
going to check that. Actually, um, we put a transportable
home on a quarter acre section, so thousand square meet
it fully consent. Two years ago, how Hastings District Council
pretty much doubled our rates, which went from about three

(28:54):
hundred bucks a month to over six hundred. What can
we do about this? As the main house only has
one toilet, it's a small house and the tiny house
is all connected to the main house and you get
charged for two sewer charges. Hope you can help us.
Our rates are now about seven k annually and it's
ridiculously expensive, whereas houses of new builds with three toilets
their rates are a lot less. What should we do please?

(29:16):
I mean, look, I think in the end you can
go to your local council and appeal your rates bill.
But if they've got a metric that says well, now
there's two houses on the site. Therefore we're going to
charge you twice as much. And they don't really care
about the number of toilets. For example, there might be
one in the new build one and the existing one.
It doesn't matter to counsel or it might not work

(29:39):
within the metrics, the formula that they have to calculate rates.
You know, the number of toilets in a house might
not be part of that formula. It might just be
our house charges. Will we charge this much or levy
this much rates per house? You've got two of them now,
therefore your rates have doubled. But look, I feel you pain.

(30:00):
I'm not sure where other people are at, but I
do like a good spreadsheet, and so I keep a
track of expenses and looking at household expenses the other day.
Rates is my single biggest expense. So I can add
up insurances, I can add up water, I can add
up power, I can add up fiber, you know, insurances,

(30:24):
that sort of thing, and my biggest expense, and this
is probably true for most of us. Now as a
as a one off item, it's rates eight hundred eighty
ten eighty the number to call. We can take a break.
We need to take a break. Bron hold on there, buddy,
We'll come to you in just a moment.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Stuns out, tools out.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
If your summer DIY starts here, the resident builder with
Peter Wolf can call eight hundred.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
And eighty eight News Talk z B.

Speaker 5 (30:53):
You and News Talk z B. Eight hundred eighty ten
eighty is the number to call. We can talk the practical,
but we can also talk sort of, I guess the theoretical.
This in my apologies if I've said this number of times,
I really can't think of a time in the last Well,
it's coming up fourteen years of doing the show. No,

(31:16):
I'll figuret about the minute sometime that we've seen as
much change to building legislation that's already happened and that
has been signaled to happen. So, for example, the upcoming
change from joint and several liability through to proportional that's
going to make it significant difference. We're talking about the
granny flat legislation at the moment, we're talking about compulsory

(31:41):
home warranty schemes and so on. It is the changes
are thick and fast, which is remarkable and probably more
to come. Oh weight one hundred eighty ten eighty is
the number to call. Thanks for calling back. Ron Good Yes, morning, greetings.

Speaker 11 (31:58):
Look, I had my house built forty six years ago.
And when we built it, I had those lugs put
in the girl oranized. I had them galvanized and put
them through the stud And I have my own scaffold brackets,
oh yep, yep, which over the success of years we've used.

(32:19):
Now forty six years later, I'm getting the house painted again.
It's probably seven years or eight years since I had
it done. And we used these brackets. There were l
shaped bracket which with a leg, you know, the brackets
which I have. I've used them all the time. And
now I'm getting a quote this week. And the guys said, oh,

(32:42):
we'll get the scaffold around. And he arrived yesterday and
measured up the it's a two story house, of course,
and he measured the whole house up and he said that.
I said, how long the breck the scaffold he be here?
He saw probably three weeks yep. And I'm just wondering
what sort of a bill I'm going to get them.

(33:03):
Why seven or eight years ago the bill the painter,
you know, use the brackets I have on hand. I mean,
they're quite safe and the becket, the bulks that go
through into the lugs that going through the stud I
had all galvanized all those years ago, so that there
no problem.

Speaker 5 (33:22):
Yeah, I've got a pretty clear picture in my mind
of exactly what what you've done. And and I can
understand that perhaps in a yeah, in simpler times, that
would have been suffice right. You would have you would
have had the lugs attached to the house. Well, you

(33:43):
would have poked down those brackets.

Speaker 11 (33:45):
Go right through before stud.

Speaker 5 (33:47):
It's not coming out, and so you'd you'd hok your
outrigger onto that sort of thing.

Speaker 11 (33:52):
Yes, that's right now.

Speaker 5 (33:54):
We used to have and we used to use them
on framing a lot, which was like a bracket that
you hooked around the stud. Right, So for houses you
would you do building paper on the top part and
then you'd hock these on and that gave you a
platform that you could move around. You could do the
facer boards and the safites and then you'd unclip them

(34:14):
and then you'd you'd work off the ground to do
the cladding. That sort of thing.

Speaker 11 (34:18):
These ones you screw a bolt type thing with a
head on it and you slot your brackets into it.
And it's got a leg on which you attached probably
a meat down on an angle and put your planks,
and it's got a backboard with a plank onners. But

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the builders are the pages.

Speaker 5 (34:40):
I think what it would be now is in terms
of compliance with health and safety regulations. Most people would
look at that and say it's it wouldn't be compliant,
or you couldn't say that there's not a risk of
you know, easily falling off it, because I presume that
your brackets don't have an upright with a handrail for example,
or a toe kick running along it.

Speaker 11 (35:03):
So brackets have a you would put a four or
two along the back of the back which is about
a meter high, and so it looks a ledge.

Speaker 7 (35:13):
On the whole whole house.

Speaker 11 (35:15):
Yes, but obviously the one man painter painted several eight
years ago, the had no problems with them. And now
these guys say, I know we've got to get scaffolding.

Speaker 5 (35:29):
Well, I don't know what I'm Yeah, it's look, it'll
be ten or fifteen grand probably to scaffold a two
storied house for that amount of time, maybe a little
bit less, and about.

Speaker 11 (35:41):
Four weeks to paint it. Yeah, two men four weeks.

Speaker 5 (35:45):
Yeah, we're right by the time you do all the
prep and all the rest of it. Look, I get
where you're coming from, but I can also understand why
a contractor today, looking at you know, sort of modern
health and safety approaches, would look at it and go,
you know, I don't know that I could certified. It's
not a system I'm familiar with. It doesn't seem to
look like what we use every day do scaffolding. Therefore,

(36:08):
I'm not going to say, hey, my guys will be
okay up there, because in the event that one of
them missteps or misjudges it, you know, would the scaffolding
be deemed to be up to current standards. It probably wouldn't,
even though you know, for your own use it might
work out. So I can understand where they're coming from.
But actually, I really it's part of me that really

(36:31):
likes what you did, in the sense that I've got
a growing concern that I'm looking at a number of
buildings that are being built, particularly once we get to
the three story type apartment, semi detached houses, and in
some cases cladding choices that designers developers are making look

(36:54):
to me to be things that are not easily maintained
or require regular maintenance, but there's no practical way to
get to them, in which case I think we're just
setting ourselves or setting up homeowners for trouble basically. So,
you know, if you've got a cladding type that, let's
say the manufacturer says, hey, every eighteen months or twelve

(37:17):
months even you need to apply a coating to it
to maintain the quality of the cladding. And it's on
the third story gable and you're one meter from the boundary.
How is anyone practically going to get there? So is
that a wise choice? And you know, do people consider
that when they're looking at the building. It's certainly something

(37:40):
that I would consider. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty.
Thank you very much for that. Ron, all the very
best to you and Warren greetings.

Speaker 12 (37:48):
Three teams.

Speaker 5 (37:50):
Yeah, very well, thanks Warren. That's good you right, yeah, absolutely,
go for it.

Speaker 12 (37:55):
It's good.

Speaker 8 (37:56):
Hey.

Speaker 12 (37:56):
Look I've got a nine ten team home. It's as
plaster over a weatherboard, very old, but the PLASTI and
it's incredibly effects. I've dug downstairs. There's a hot lot

(38:18):
of clay that's actually come out from downstairs. There was
already a pre existing area downstairs and used for this concrete.
Even if you went so, I've dug out further, come
across a leap that obviously it was pre existing there,

(38:40):
and it was coming through the clay wall that actually
or the clay bank that had formed after we'd done
our little duggy sides of about fifty cent piece. But
it was loosing and leaking and doing non sorts of things.
Then I just haven't been able to find the loop.
I've dug outside the perimeter to the side game, I've

(39:05):
dug down there. We've found multiple crevices and roots, and
the gardens was always filled with just obviously a whole
lot of molts upon malts upon. So I dug down
there sounded the previous only put used drain coil. But
it was going back into the house under the under

(39:26):
the house. Oh yes, I dug all around the outside,
down the side of the with the path obviously on
the right hand side, but this garden to the side
on the of the house that was up against the
house effectively down I've used die. I've pulled out that pipe,

(39:50):
thinking well, that's going all the way back. So I
pulled the pipe out, used dye and water and still
found that it was easy. I've used I sell concrete,
I've dug down and I've used concrete to go further
away or fear along garden. If it's going down towards
these on the part of the house, there's just multiple

(40:14):
pathways going through there. Have you experienced it before?

Speaker 5 (40:19):
Yeah, I tell you what I'm going to do, Laorn
if you could hold Now that you've given me the picture,
I'm going to have a bit of a think about
it during the news break, which is coming out fairly soon,
so I don't want to rush. We'll try and get
to the bottom of this. So just just down the
line and we'll come back and look at sort of
the source of what could be multiple points of ingress

(40:41):
as to explain where that water is coming from and
how it might be impacting on the build. Right, hey, now,
in the next hour of the show, Bryce McDermott, our
painting expert from Razine, will be joining us, So if
you've got any specific painting questions then you should give
us a call or sorry text through nine to nine two.

(41:02):
Bryce will be with us at around seven twenty five.
As always, Lining pass with us from eight point thirty
as well. We're back talking all things building in construction
after news, sport and weather at seven o'clock not too
far away.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Thanks from stumber backyard jobs to Big Rennolds. Let's talk
it through.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Call OH eight hundred eighty ten eighty the Resident Builder
with Peter WILFCAB News Talk, ZEBBI.

Speaker 5 (41:40):
Ridio. We're into it. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty
is the number to call. Good morning. My name's Pete
wolf Camp, the resident Builder, and this is the Resident
Builder on Sunday where we can talk about all things
building in construction. If you've got a specific painting question.
Bryce McDermott, our painting expert from Razine, will be with
us at about seven twenty seven to twenty five this morning,

(42:02):
So flick through any text that you might have any
questions via text regarding painting products, preparation brushes. One of
the things actually that we want to have a bit
of a chat about with Bryce today is, you know,
we often talk about painting in winter and thinking about
daylight hours and warmth and drying and those sorts of things,

(42:24):
and so summer is the traditional time for painting outside,
but there's issues like humidity that you need to consider
as well, and potentially painting in direct sunlight. So we
have a bit of a chat with Bryce about that.
But if you've got some specific questions for Bryce, please
text them through. He's going to be with us fairly
shortly now. Just before the news, we were chatting with Warren,
who's in an older house which is weatherboard with stucco over,

(42:48):
which is slightly unusual, but given that it's an old house,
that's not completely unusual that people do things like that.
And then so Warren just to quickly refresh. So in
the basement area or below the main living house, the
main living area of the house you've got, is it
a basement or is it just a sort of sub

(43:10):
floor area that's utilized.

Speaker 11 (43:13):
No, it is.

Speaker 12 (43:14):
It's a basement that's been that was already already in
situed downstairs. Yes, they had a make the concrete paired
head stairs going down to it, so it's got a
head head room. And then so what I wanted to
do was extend that further back and managed to do

(43:35):
that quite comfortably. And you know, obviously when we were
digging back the through all the clay and everything through
there and pulled that out there was just when we
stopped digging, there was just like I said, that fifty
cent piece is coming through on the side of the

(43:57):
on the on the.

Speaker 5 (43:58):
Right, So it's just it's groundwater there. Yes, yeah, okay,
there is no stopping groundwater timing, not the essentially. So
it might just be water that's seeping through, you know,
layers of clay. It might be that there's a spring,
it might be that it's the water table. So there

(44:22):
is nothing in my mind that you can do to
control that. So then it becomes all about what do
I build, and how do I waterproof it, and how
do I capture and direct that water away from the building.
And so I presume that if you're excavating into a bank,
you're going to have a footing, you can have some

(44:42):
sort of wall, which is probably going to be masonry,
so blocks. You'll need to get in behind that with
a full waterproofing system there at the base of that
novercoil that's actually going somewhere and ideally going taking water
away from the back of the house and then behind
that wall. You know, once you've done the no overcoil

(45:03):
protected the waterproofing, then your back filled with scoria. So
that's kind of the typical methodology, and so that if
there is water there, and there always is some a
certain amount, you're capturing it directing it away.

Speaker 12 (45:18):
Okay, well, look what we've done is I put a
secondary that. Look where we were living, it was never
it was never going to be living for a statement. Sure,
we're going to be grinding it out. So the I mean,
the main reason for getting down was to put the
membrane down far back as we could in obviously in

(45:38):
slade under the pool. So that's that that pifficient pace
is actually coming through the bank that we formed. I
think it's always been. Yeah, it's probably about three foot
it's the only area. Everything else is dry is and
I thought I put food strains in the outside. Yes,

(46:02):
I've dug down thinking that cut tackle. I've found where
this water is coming through. It's going to be subservice.
And I've got prince streams and I haven't haven't totally
filled those in like put the square on top of
the pathing, but I've done all that taking that away
from the house. Yes, and I can only think how

(46:26):
we dug down a long way and you can see
some of the cracks and some of the ground being
quite soft, so we dug down a long way. I've
put concrete on some of it and taking that away
from here the house and part of the game. But
I wonder just how far down that actually is because

(46:47):
we are lower than the road.

Speaker 5 (46:50):
So a lot of right, Okay, yes.

Speaker 12 (46:53):
Pump pumped back up, but obvioulys die an awful lot
of time. Find that leaf and you know it's definitely
coming through that.

Speaker 5 (47:02):
Because the other thing is that that water that you
see or that you're trying to control, is that only
there when it rains or is it okay all right?
Because you know, just in case, maybe you know what
you might find it, particularly if you've got storm water
that's on a siphon system. If there's a break in
that pipe, then instead of it siphoning out to the road,

(47:25):
it might just be leaking out. But then it becomes
one of those ones that you only notice it after
we've had a period of rain. But if it's so,
if it's ground, you know, so have a look at
the storm water. There may well be some leaking there.
But again I think again, you know, I think I've

(47:45):
got an idea of where you're at. But it's if
you can't solve the groundwater issue, which is unlikely. Then
it just becomes about how you build the walls and
create drainage that then moves that water away. That's got
to be your focus.

Speaker 8 (48:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (48:02):
So what I've done is I've got another from strain
around the perimeter downstairs, and I've put a pump municipal pump.

Speaker 8 (48:11):
As a last gasp yeah yep, and.

Speaker 12 (48:15):
Actually taking a leak down into a municipal pump and
then pumping it outside and dug. It's been a heap
of work to get it done, but it was like,
as I'm reading the probably used to be you know,
had water down absolutely ten years. So I've done my

(48:37):
best pump it down the dry as a part from
Like I said, that's fifty and it's just so.

Speaker 5 (48:46):
And that water that you're seeing coming through that fifty
cent piece that you're describing, is that coming through a
masonry wall or through a timber stud wall.

Speaker 12 (48:55):
Doesn't know that that's no, that's actually just the clay bank. Yeah, okay,
it's coming through the bank. Yeah, not from me yet,
so yeah, nothing that's obviously coming and underneath the.

Speaker 9 (49:13):
Side of the.

Speaker 12 (49:14):
House, yes, somewhere along that side and then coming through
but it's still two three feet.

Speaker 5 (49:23):
Yeah. Then then I suppose getting a pit that's lower
than that and putting the submersible pump into their is
probably your best option.

Speaker 12 (49:34):
That's about I just thought there's another option of trying
to find that bloody thing.

Speaker 5 (49:41):
Look, it would be worth checking drains and having drained
surveyed just to ensure that that's not what's causing the leak.
But if it's and and you've you said you've used dye,
so you put die into the drains to see whether
or not that's then is evident there okay, then I
think if you've done a die test that's there. They're

(50:02):
pretty good. I did one a couple of years ago
where you know, someone was like, no, no, no, no,
it's not a problem with the drains. It's not a
problem with the drains. It'll be okay. And I'm looking
at thinking, I know that you were digging around that area.
I'm pretty sure that you've nicked the side of the drain,
and so put the dye in, and sure enough, after
about half an hour there's there's you know, bright green

(50:23):
water all over the ground. I'm like, there's your pipe
not working good? On you for doing it. I certainly
admire your perseverance and trying to find the source of
the leak. Right, if you've got as much perseverance as warrant,
you can give us a call as well. Oh eight
hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. If
you've got a specific painting question, then Bryce, our painting expert,

(50:45):
is going to be along very shortly. In fact, we
might take the break and see if we can get
Bryce on the show now. So if you've got these
specific painting questions, Bryce from Razine with us in just
a moment. It is sixteen minutes after seven.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Sawdust, Sunshine and Solid Advice the Resident Builder with Peter
Wolfcab call OH eight hundred eighty ten eighty his talk
and a.

Speaker 5 (51:07):
Very very good morning. For the first time in twenty
twenty six, regularly contributed to the show our very own
painting expert, Bryce McDermott from Razim Good morning, sir, Good
morning six.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (51:22):
Who would have thunk? Can a you and I getting
on and we're still it's awesome. It's awesome. Hey, I
mentioned before, you know, like in my head in growing
up at home, Dad was always painting the house in summer, right,
and it felt like you didn't paint in winter outside
for obvious reasons. You did in summer because it was

(51:44):
better conditions. But there's still things to think about, particularly humidity.
So can you just run me through the issues around
humidity and exterior painting.

Speaker 6 (51:55):
Yeah, well, you know, if you the easiest thing to
think about humidity is to look on the weather app
on your phone, yep, and it'll tell you what the
humidity is and what the dew point is and all
that sort of stuff. But basically, an ideal time to
paint is when the temperature is about fifteen to twenty

(52:15):
degrees and the humidity is like seventy to eighty percent.
Anything above eighty percent, then you know you've got to
sit down and have a bit of a think because
there's so much moisture, so much moisture in the air
that that doesn't allow the paint to dry properly or
cure properly. The easiest thing to think about is if

(52:39):
your washing's not drying on the line, right, then put
your brush away and say that for another day. They
do say that, you know, a nice cloudy day with
a gentle breeze and no rain coming is an ideal
time to paint. But you know, there's wherever you are
in the country, it's probably not going to happen, you know,

(53:02):
every day, or you just have to think about it
and you know, and just make sure that everything works
out properly in the end.

Speaker 5 (53:13):
Okay, Well that's I mean, that's it's funny because the
impression is always, oh great, it's summertime. Great, the sun's out.
You know, we're rip into the exterior painting. But you're right,
and I guess the other thing, and I'm sure most
people are aware of this now, is painting in direct
sunlight not a great idea.

Speaker 6 (53:31):
Yeah, follow the shade around if you'd pushed you know,
start on the shady side of the house and then
just follow the sun around, you know, painting and direct sun. Right, Yeah,
the paint droves really quickly. It's probably also drawing on
the brushes you're trying to work, but you know it
doesn't do the paint any good. So right, just you know,

(53:53):
sit back, read the read the label tell you know
on the paint can it tells you you know, the
best conditions to paint and things like that, And you
know you could also just nip onto our website, and
there's lots of information about the best times to paint
and things.

Speaker 5 (54:09):
Like that, because there is that challenge. Let's say and
I you know, painting it outside. Let's say you've got
an eight inch board, right, an old fashioned house with
a bigger wide age inch board, and it's that thing
of sort of you know, you start maybe at the
top and you've you've done a couple of strokes and
you've done the top half of the board. Then paint,
you know, brush back in the pot second part of

(54:32):
the lower part of the board. But then by the
time you get to the top of the next section,
you know that that it's the first but it's already
started to dry. It's hard to get it to flow together.
And again that's what you're looking to avoid by maybe
making sure that you're out of the sun or some
flow troll or what's the hot water hot weather additive

(54:54):
that you can Yeah.

Speaker 6 (54:56):
We've got hot weather center which is yep. But follow
the directions on that stuff. Don't overdose it. Yeah, underdose
if possible. But you know it's generally a small catful, Yeah,
in a one liter ca you know, one meter of paint,

(55:18):
So yeah, but that does it just gives you a
little bit more opening time. But yeah, you know, for
the time. If it's drying too fast and you're tearing
the surface of the paint when you're trying to actually
lay it off, then you know, put the brush away
or move to.

Speaker 11 (55:34):
A cooler part you are apart.

Speaker 5 (55:36):
Yeah, absolutely right. Well, actually we've got a bunch of
texts to get through, so let's race through this. Bryce,
could you please advise the best best method to prepare
eves for painting. The eaves are fiber cment, probably asbestos,
and it's got flaking paint on it. So let's assume
that it's asbestos or there's ACM in it, it's flaking.

(55:57):
How would you go about prepping that for paint?

Speaker 6 (56:00):
You'd have to be very careful God, asbestos and you know,
probably a gem scraping, but no sanding or anything like that,
you know, just in case the best you know, you
don't want that stuff floating around in the air while
you're working. You know, it's best to try and prepare
it as as least as possible. Yes, any beer areas

(56:25):
spot prime with the good old solvent based shore seal
and two coats of a cryllic over the top, but
just be aware that, you know, don't go don't go overboard,
and don't don't send it whatever. You treat the moss
and mold and all that sort of stuff, and give
it a good washdown and then and then catch any

(56:45):
you know, any loose flakes or anything like that, you know,
and just catch it on the ground and wrap it
up and policine or something like that and then dispose.

Speaker 5 (56:53):
Of it absolutely quick. One here what treatment or product
is needed to cover rust on a pressed metal ceiling
before repainting. So it's obviously an older heritage home with
a press metal ceiling, If it's got a little bit
of rust in there, what would you use to seal
that before painting?

Speaker 6 (57:12):
Hm, that's a tricky one. You would probably have to
try and remove some of the rust by maybe using
like one of those green pot scrubbers that you get,
you know, and try and remove the rust as gently
as possible. And hmmm, probably maybe our armor ex GP

(57:41):
primer right, which is a general purpose sort of primer
that will cover rust and things like that. Use that
to spot prime the areas and things, and then a
good code of quick dry and then to coachs a
ceiling paint over the top of it.

Speaker 5 (57:57):
Mm hmm. Okay, Now this is a tricky one because
it involves other contractors, but the text has come through
and it's said, our house is painted. Two of the
four walls that get sun all day began blistering straight away.
The painters came back to fix it, but it's blistered again.
They claim it was due to a reaction with the

(58:18):
old paint, so they've applied a different type of primer
and then repainted, but it's blistered again. So I presume
this is exterior, and let's assume that it's weather boards.
So what do you think might be happening there if
it's blistering so quickly.

Speaker 6 (58:36):
Generally, when a new paint job goes on, surface tension
can occur while the painter's curing. You know, it basically
reacts with the layers underneath and can actually, you know,
cause the previous layers to actually pop off. So if
you pop some of those blisters, and you'll probably find

(58:56):
that it's actually gone back a to the primer or
actually right back to the original timber.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
Right.

Speaker 6 (59:04):
So the only really a presient way to actually stop
that is to completely strip those areas and startle over again.
It's previous layers that have just given up the basic
Yeah okay, yeah, and guess the lead as well.

Speaker 5 (59:22):
Yeah, absolutely, okay, that's an interesting one morning, lads. Bryce.
I've recently clad a shed in plywood and put batons
down the ply joints. After that, a very thin bead
of sealant down each baton and smoothed off with my finger.
Problem is, the stain won't stick to the silicon. It
literally sheets off. Any clever ideas can I answer that?

(59:44):
Because essentially what the person's done is one, you don't
need silicon down the baton if you use the right baton,
which should have a groove at the back of it.
And also if you've used a silicon that's not paintable,
then that's why the stain won't stick to it. So
you've got to go through and remove all the sealant. Absolutely, yes, okay,

(01:00:05):
all right. That would be one of those things where
read the instructions is the key to that.

Speaker 8 (01:00:11):
Yeah, now, and things like that.

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
The stain just you know, it just won't hang onto it,
will it. No, not at all, because there are exterior
seilants that are paintable, but you've got to look for
that because there are others that are quite clearly paint
won't stick to the stuff, you know. So yeah, you've
got to read the instructions. Bryce, can you run through
the prep for painting a garage floor please?

Speaker 6 (01:00:36):
Ah, It depends on what the garage floor is like,
I'll go the whole hog straight away. The best thing
to do is actually diamond grind the floor. Yes, it
used to be. The thing that we used to do
was sort of like acid etching with a solution of
hydrochloric acid, but that introduces spirits of salts that used

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to introduce moisture into the equation. So diamond grinding is
the best preparation. And then depending on the use that
the garage floor is getting, I would put a coat
of a product we have called armor bond, which is
an epoxy concrete sealer, and then two to three coats

(01:01:25):
of acle POxy, which is a water born epoxy that
we have flooring situations. And then once you've done that,
you've got to leave it for at least five to
seven days to cure off properly before you put before
you put a vehicle on it or anything like that.

Speaker 5 (01:01:43):
And the armor bond is that it will seal the
concrete surface before the top coat.

Speaker 8 (01:01:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:01:51):
Okay, it's a funny, funny material. It's clear and it
goes a long way and the concrete ends up sort
of looking like a well, what's the expression it looks like.
Have you ever seen a piebal horse where it's sort
of a patchy and spotty and stuff. Yeah, yeah, it
looks like that, and you think, oh gosh, what's happening here?

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But that's that's what to expect. And then once that's
cured and dried, it's a two pac material, but you
don't have to overload it or anything like that. Twenty
square meters at a liter it does wow, And but
you know it's the ideal seiler before you put your
equapoxy on the top of it.

Speaker 5 (01:02:32):
Okay, that's brilliant. Now here's a classic new ninety five
meters of tannalized pine fencings. The palings are one point
five meters high, one hundred mil wide, twenty five mil thick.
The gap between is thirty mil. So the person is
painting it with some lumbersider. The roller works well for
the front and back, but the gaps are terrible to paint,

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so they're using a brush for that. What they're after
is is there a fast away? Would you look at spraying?

Speaker 6 (01:03:02):
You could, but you know you'd still you'd still have
the issue of getting into the gap. We do have
a brush type thing for want of a better description,
called a deck master, which has got really loose, super

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long bristles on it and you stick it on the
end of a roller pole or something like that, and
it actually sort of actually gets into the gaps between
you know, if you're painting a deck, for instance, it
gets into the gap the deck. So maybe that would work,
you know, but if you're trying to spray or something

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like that, you know there's a danger that you'll actually
overbuild it and get runs and things like that.

Speaker 5 (01:03:50):
Yeah. Actually, just on the spraying, someone else has said, look,
I'm thinking about using a spray gun to do the
exterior of my house. But they're going to look at
one of the like the compressors, so sort of spraying
that you'd see car guys do, which typically if contractor
is a spraying, they're using the airless sprayer, aren't they
not not a compressed one?

Speaker 6 (01:04:11):
Oh? Yeah, because well you know it uses just the
compressor units and things obviously use a lot of air
and stuff like that, and you know they to my mind,
the water based paint through one of those things would
cause a few issues. You know, you'd get blockages and
things like that. Yes, so maybe consider hiring an airless sprayer.

Speaker 5 (01:04:36):
Yep, yeah, yeah, I would absolutely. Actually, the person who
had the issue with the silicon has text through bugger
chairs for reading out who reads the instructions right dot
dot dot, So good luck with that journal. It's a
little bit of work to do to get rid of
the silicon.

Speaker 8 (01:04:54):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:04:54):
Large wooden outdoor dining set that's very heavy. They thought
it was queler, they've now figured out that it's actually rosewood.
Could you suggest an oil or a stain for rosewar would.

Speaker 6 (01:05:10):
That's a That's an interesting one, is that they always
throw these ones at me.

Speaker 5 (01:05:13):
It would be it would almost be similar in consistency
to like teak, you know, that very heavy, very dense timber.

Speaker 6 (01:05:21):
Mm hmmm. Probably the only thing that springs to mind
would be woodsmand wood oil, you know, the very very
thin running water consistency.

Speaker 5 (01:05:34):
Tess that the oil.

Speaker 6 (01:05:35):
Based stain, which I think would be the way to go,
but bear in mind, you know, after a couple of summers,
you'll probably need to redo it again as well.

Speaker 5 (01:05:46):
Yes, yes, absolutely, which might help the person from Central
Otago's got the teak outdoor table. They've they've knocked it
back with some steel wall, but that's black in the surface,
so I guess sand it and then again you could
use the razine stain on that as well.

Speaker 8 (01:06:00):
Yep, absolutely, that's okay.

Speaker 5 (01:06:04):
Now someone has stripped because we were talking about the
paint that's bubbling, and you know, maybe what's required because
I think if you've got an old house, there's a
point at which at some time, if you've kept it
for a while, you're going to end up having to
strip right back to beer timber. Right, So if you're
in an old villa and it's had one hundred years

(01:06:24):
of paint on it, there comes a time when you've
just got to start again. So this person or the
bungalow is in that space, what would you recommend as
the best product to skim the boards for preparation and
the steps that I should follow after the boards are stripped.

Speaker 6 (01:06:40):
Okay, Well, then once the boards are stripped, and if
it's a super old villa we or a bungalow like
my house, which I've had stripped by the way, Yes, yep.
We have a product called timber lock right, which you
put onto the beer timber first, which binds up all

(01:07:03):
the timber fibers and things like that and just gives
you a good sound surface for painting, and then either
a full coat of oil based wood primer depending on
the timber, or you could use quick dry as well,
but you know, if it's really old, I would prefer
to people to use wood primer. And then once that's done,

(01:07:26):
we have a product called timber Timber Surfacer, which is
a very thick ah type product that you actually apply
to the boards and then once that's dry, you give
it a good sanding and it smooths everything out. And
then it's quite a long process because you've already done

(01:07:48):
your timber lock and your wood primer and your timber surfacer,
and then once you've sanded the boards, then you put
a full coat of quick dray over the top and
then proceed with two coats of a Crylle.

Speaker 5 (01:08:00):
Might have to come into the store and have we
look at that. That sounds quite intriguing, right.

Speaker 6 (01:08:06):
A lot of it's a yellow yeah, okay, yes, and
that does create a lot of yellow dust twing standing.
And I'm speaking from experience, and.

Speaker 5 (01:08:18):
Look, I made the comment earlier that certainly when I'm
in the workshop I've got sort of a bit of
a system rigged up so that I can plug or
attach extraction to any of the sanders that I might
be using, if it's a belt sander or a random
orbital or whatever it is that I'm using, and attaching
extraction to your sanders. Apart from the fact that it's

(01:08:38):
it's better because you're not having all that dust blowing around.
Even if you've got a sander with a bag on it,
it's still more effective to have a sander attached. So
I'm thinking if you were to apply this timber surfacer
on the outdoor area and then you had maybe a
little random orbital sander, but take the bag off and
put extraction onto it to a vacuum cleaner, that would

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take care of all of that yellow dust.

Speaker 6 (01:09:01):
Yep, And especially if you've got an older an older home. Yeah, sure,
there's a likelihood that there's lead somewhere in there. So
you know, extraction on a sander is probably the best
thing you could probably do to do for yourself.

Speaker 5 (01:09:16):
Absolutely, a couple of quick ones to wrap up. Hey,
I've gotten and in closed deck that needs to be
redone and waterproof? Is there is drainage? But what product
can I use?

Speaker 6 (01:09:32):
I think a closed deck that needs to be redone.

Speaker 5 (01:09:34):
Yeah and waterproof.

Speaker 8 (01:09:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:09:38):
I think that's not going to be a paint on product.
I think you should be looking at torchons and TPOs
and things like that. Now Here we go this coumpans
of the cowshed. I need to repaint the block work
in the cowshed. What's the best product? Please?

Speaker 6 (01:09:54):
In the cowshed. I would go back, I would I
would go back to acropoxy, which is you.

Speaker 13 (01:10:00):
Know we're discussing about the yes explaw before and depending
on the condition of the area you know, of the
block work, you know it'll need obviously need a huge
clean down and all that sort of stuff to get
rid of any I'm not sure what they use to
clean out milted sheds and things like that, but you

(01:10:22):
know you'll need to actually render the surface ready for
painting and stuff like that. Spot spot prime many bear
areas with good old sure seal again and then two
to three coats of ack POxy, which is and it's
a two pack material and you know, stands up to
a lot of washing and stuff like that, and you know,

(01:10:45):
it's probably the best thing I could think of.

Speaker 5 (01:10:47):
Okay, that's brilliant. Forty year old exposed ceiling that looks
like it's a stained dark color. They're wanting to paint
it white. So let's assume it's timber. It's probably got
a bit of polyurethane, maybe some stain, and then a
polyurethane coating over that. What's the prep to go from
stain or poly earth to paint.

Speaker 6 (01:11:08):
Okay, give it a good wash down first, because you know,
you never know what's there with a stained ceiling. You
can't see any you know, where the flies have been
and stuff like that, or you know, it's just there's
probably a few years of accumulated sort of bits and pieces.
Give it a good washdown and a clean down and
let it dry sand, you know, to provide a key

(01:11:31):
for the whatever you're going to put over the top.
Water Borne shore seal, yeah, which is what we're using
now to seal off furnace. And then once that's drive
two coats of a ceiling flat or a space coat
or you know, whatever you'd want to put over the
top of that.

Speaker 5 (01:11:50):
Yeah, brilliant. Certainly it worked a treat for me a
couple of years ago. Remove ceiling tongue and groove ceiling,
you know, polyurethane over it took the gloss off the polyrthane.
The share of the smooth surface ceiler is a funny
produce to apply again, it's it's kind of milky and
you're sort of wondering whether it's doing anything and all

(01:12:11):
the rest of it. But it's worked a treatments stuck
like the proverbial to a blanket, so it certainly works.

Speaker 11 (01:12:19):
Well.

Speaker 6 (01:12:19):
You know, smooth surface center is what we used to use. Yeah,
we've sort of we've moved that into the space of painting,
you know, and using it as a primer for melamine
and stuff like that. Right, and with the introduction of
water boards to a seal. Yes, that's that's taken over
the roof spot of it. Our number one vanish.

Speaker 5 (01:12:40):
All right, last one because actually we've been undondated. It's
been great morning, Pete. We've got a stationary bus with
a fiberglass roof front and back. Otherwise it's metal. The
fiberglass has lost most of its paint, and as bear
and areas, it's sound a couple of very slight cracks.
What's the best preparation and top coats for the over
the fiberglass, Oh.

Speaker 6 (01:13:02):
Golly, tricky. Depends on, you know, what the original paint
system was, right, If it's a you know, it's a
motor home or something like that, it's more than likely
something like an automotive paint that's been put over the
top of it, in which case, you know, it will

(01:13:27):
probably require something a little tougher than your normal paint. Basically,
I would think something like an X primer or something
like that, and then maybe a couple of coats of
just and good old house paint over the top of it. Yeah,

(01:13:52):
or even high glow that people don't use anymore, the
good old glossochronic. That could work, but I would probably
do a little bit more research before you just leap
into that. Yeah, I'm sort of I'm just sort of, yeah,
I think that probably would work, but I'm just not

(01:14:14):
one hundred percent sure about what the original paint would be.

Speaker 5 (01:14:18):
Yeah, yeah, So might it be a bit of a
testing as well. Bryce, that's been fabulous this morning. Obviously
this time of year, people are keen to get stuck
into projects while they've got a bit of time or
there's a few days off, so really appreciate your time.
We've cracked through a whole bunch of texts this morning,
so there's always appreciate your experience and your expertise. Okay, cool,

(01:14:40):
pleasure mate, all the best, take care all right, so
you and great advice like that you can get every
time you visit your local Razine color shop. Well, we'll
crack back into the calls in just a moment. So
if you've got a question of a building nature, eight
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It's seven forty three sorting those summer fixes before the

(01:15:02):
barbecue crowd arrives. The resident builder with Peter, call eight
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a question of that nature, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten
eighty is the number to call. This text came in morning,
just tuned in as I do every week. Thank you

(01:15:24):
very much, So I hope you haven't discussed this already.
Do you have any insights on the new seventy square
metagranny flat not needing a building consent? Thinking about putting
one in the back of our place? Should I engage
a planner to help with the resource consent to start with?
Be keen for any help? Thanks a lot. I'll tell
you what. There's a very good summary. A guy that
I've got to know over the last couple of years,

(01:15:46):
Mike Blackburn, does insights into construction that he's done, a
very good summary. I'm sure if you google his name,
you'll you'll find it on sort of what's required some
of the I guess fish hooks or things to look
out for. And again, even the comment that you've put
down there help with the resource consent. You won't need

(01:16:08):
a resource consent for this seventy square meter building. You'll
need to make an application to counsel to inform them,
and you'll need to prove that what you're going to
do complies with planning legislation where it's cited, et cetera,
et cetera. But I don't believe that you'll need a
resource consent for that, in the same way that you

(01:16:29):
won't need a building consent, but you'll still need to
comply with the local regulations. So have a look for
that article. I'll see if I can get a bit
more detail on it. And there's there's some interesting stuff
from brands that's been released and a number of statements
like organizations professional bodies like the New Zealand's due to

(01:16:51):
building surveys and so on. Plenty of people have got
questions about how it's going to work. Oh eight en
eighty the number to call. Hello, Len, Yeah, good grit.

Speaker 8 (01:17:04):
I've got problems with my room that's built in ninety nine.
In two thousand and seven, we had it painted because
it was dolling up, dolling up, and twenty seventeen, sorry, yep,
because it was dolling up and we've got a couple
of chips of it. Yep. Then so we had it

(01:17:28):
repainted again in twenty five and since it was painted
in twenty five is on one side it's all blistered
up and feeling.

Speaker 5 (01:17:36):
Yeah. So when when the roof was installed, I presume
it's pre coated, so it's a color steel type roof,
but it might not be color steel because there's other
brands as well. But that's what we're talking about.

Speaker 8 (01:17:50):
Ah, yes, yeah, so I don't know what to do,
you know, the guy, the guy that painted the center
thinking about problem glistering and elimination of roof coating on

(01:18:14):
one side of the house one E A one.

Speaker 5 (01:18:18):
It might be as simple as you know, there was
a certain type of preparation done on one side but
not on the other. It might be that when the
coating was applied, it was done at the wrong time
of day, you know, or the roof might have been
too warm. There might have been dew on the roof.
There might have been it might have been applied late

(01:18:38):
in the day and not able to cure, perhaps before
the weather dropped in terms of temperature or humidity, those
sorts of things. So it is a little bit unusual
that it's on one side of the roof and not
the other, surely, But it will always be about preparation.
It'll be either preparation or timing that will cause the failure.

(01:19:00):
I suppose. Now the question is what do you do
with the roof that's slightly blistering, because it's not like, yes,
resume this is over a metal profiled roof, so it's
a corrugate or another profiled roof. Yes, what is the profile?

Speaker 11 (01:19:14):
Do you know?

Speaker 8 (01:19:15):
It's like stale form, you know, long run roofing.

Speaker 5 (01:19:23):
Yeah, long run Okay. So the hard thing is like,
if you've got blisters on there, someone's going to have
to go up there, maybe with a wire brush and
try and remove that. But of course you don't want
to be too aggressive with that because you don't want
to start impacting on the coating too much. But at
the same time that that loose material needs to be removed,
then that needs to have the right type of primer

(01:19:46):
applied to it, and then the roof's redone. The contractor
who did it are they? You know, do you think
if you said to them, well, look it's failed within
a short period of time, you need to come back
and fix it. Do you think they'd come back?

Speaker 8 (01:20:00):
He said he could scrape it up and repaint it.

Speaker 5 (01:20:04):
Right, Okay, Well, you know the question to ask is
how are you going to scrape it off? And can
you ensure that you don't cause any damage to the
roof while you're doing that. But if they if they've
got a system that you know, you're confident that they'll
be able to do without causing further damage. Then I
think it's just a preparation issue. If they come back

(01:20:25):
and do that, that would be great. Good luck with
you on that one. Then I can understand the frustration.
So good luck with that, and hopefully the contractor does
come back. It is seven fifty two. We'll take a
break and take your calls after the break.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
If it creaks, leaks, cracks or squeaks some is the
time to get it sort of call oh, eight hundred
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Speaker 5 (01:20:50):
There'd be indeed your news talks. They'd be coming up
to news time top of the R at eight o'clock.
But if you've got a question, you should call us now.
We'll get it sorted out. We'll get you ready to
go straight after the news top of the R at
eight o'clock. Thanks to the texter who's sent through the
link to the building dot gov dot m Z website.
So I guess it's going to be interesting. Where we

(01:21:11):
already know that what Schedule one of the Building Act
allows you to do in terms of building work that
must comply with the code but not necessarily requires a consent,
often around maintenance and so on. But now this is
a whole new world in terms of actually being able
to build a habitable structure up to seventy square meters
without necessarily requiring a consent. I think, you know, if

(01:21:35):
you're a homeoony, you're still going to need well, you
will need to engage with professionals to guide you through
that process. Inevitably, I think we'll sear stories of someone
contracting their mate to cobble it together over a weekend.
But that's not what the legislation intends, right, we'll come back.
We can talk more about that in the next hour
of the show. And remember Rid Cline passed from eight

(01:21:56):
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(01:23:05):
the number to cour Ryan. A very good morning to you.

Speaker 14 (01:23:10):
Yeah, mate, how are you?

Speaker 5 (01:23:12):
You're not too bad in yourself?

Speaker 14 (01:23:14):
Not too bad? Hey, Yeah, we're spoken about three times
over the last of the four years, right.

Speaker 8 (01:23:20):
Yeah, it's sort of sort of.

Speaker 14 (01:23:22):
A memory job. So we got a house on the
north sure, and we're about probably three hundred and fifty
k so far out of pocket from our builder, a
new builder to finish the house. Yes, and we had
sort of spoken about it. It wasn't I supposed too
much we could we could do because it's a contract
that we were just we're just at the last hurdle.

(01:23:46):
Now after issues five years and everything's been done by
other builder, I've been fantastic. Everything's been done into the handover,
et cetera. Yep, Now we found that the previous builder
had so they bought the weather boards obviously and registers

(01:24:07):
with the board by it.

Speaker 8 (01:24:08):
That's what you call them.

Speaker 14 (01:24:09):
Are they given a step that they need to install
that suit. Their councils come down, come around and said
that they have installed the weather boards incorrectly, and there's
a council inspection a few days into it, just because
they it was the weather boards. Obviously, they need to
check to make sure the facing right. They come out

(01:24:32):
to look, they need to change them because they're outside
or something along those lines, and they just they kept
going into the whole house.

Speaker 5 (01:24:45):
Just before we go too far into the story, So
when the original builder was on site and they were
doing the weather board cladding they'd started, they got an
inspection part way through it, which is interesting because typically
it's not required. But so the inspector was there and
issued an instruction to the builder to change the way

(01:25:06):
that they were doing the weather boards. But that builder
didn't listen to that and carried on it.

Speaker 14 (01:25:13):
Didn't listen, carried on, and now we're at the point
where because we've had that many sort of kickbacks not
kickbacks knocked back from them to go, what is the
is the best avenue to go? Because there's two parts
here is one, they haven't signed it that the contracts

(01:25:35):
we've found out, they haven't done it under their actual
building entity. They've done it under their family trust.

Speaker 5 (01:25:44):
This was your original contractor, the.

Speaker 14 (01:25:47):
Original contractor that did this. Yes, but they they they've
got a they've got a building company, a franchise, and
but the contract they signed with us was under their
family trust. Yet all the leaderships and everything that comes
through to us was from their franchise, which.

Speaker 5 (01:26:06):
Is sure you speak the creditable yep, I'm with you.

Speaker 8 (01:26:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:26:12):
So obviously they haven't followed us. The council records there
and we've got a quote to get a redone and
another one hundred and ten thousand dollars. So just wondering
if there's any sort of recourse on that. It were
it's just more money down the and the tube.

Speaker 5 (01:26:35):
I guess there's probably two things that are going to happen.
One is it's going to go to it's going to
go to the lawyers, and you're going to make a claim,
you know, for negligence on the part of the first builder,
particularly given that you've got evidence. I you know, Counsel
inspection told you to change it, you didn't, and therefore
it's quite clear you've done even you've installed the weatherboards incorrectly.

(01:26:58):
They don't meet code requirements. I'm going to have to
pay to get them redone. I'm going to seek the
costs back from you. The other thing would be, I
presume that the first builder who was involved in the
project was an LBP. Yes, have you been to the
LBP Disciplinary board to him because it Yeah, it would

(01:27:23):
seem to me that they've obviously breached their duties or
their responsibility as an LBP, so they you know, their
work has not met the standards required of a licensed
building practitioner, in which case you've probably got fairly strong
grounds to go and make a complaint against them.

Speaker 14 (01:27:43):
Yes, And that was the gray year they wanted to ask, because,
I mean, everyone has an opinion, but you're obviously and
the licensed building practitioner has registered against that person under
the what would you call it under the franchise?

Speaker 5 (01:28:02):
No, No, that that no, that that's not how the
LBP scheme works. So for all of the criticism of
the scheme, I think the best part of the scheme
is the fact that you can't register a company. It's
an individual. So you know, I've got a building company,
but it's not my building company is not registered as

(01:28:25):
an LBP. I'm registered as Peter wolf Camp BP one
two zero zero nine to eight is my LBP number, right,
So I could undertake work for anyone, but if I'm
the LBP, it's my name that's on the list. So
and you know, at the end of a project, you'll

(01:28:45):
have a record of works or a memorandum works from
all of the lbps that undertook all of the restricted
building work. And it might be an LBP for the foundations,
it might be one for the framing, it might be
one for the waterproofing that sort of thing, and it
will be an individual. An individual is responsible for this, okay.

Speaker 14 (01:29:08):
And if because the contract with or his company the LP,
if he had a contractor that came in to do it,
so we have the main contract with this person is
peace or liable or he then go, well, actually wasn't
my contract?

Speaker 5 (01:29:28):
Yeah, well this is This is always one of the challenges. So,
you know, if you've got a large building firm, right,
you could, if you're an LBP running that firm, you
could sign the work off yourself and say, because what
the requirement is is that you the work is either
done or supervised by. I think one of the challenges

(01:29:49):
that we've got, and I think even council inspectors will
acknowledge this, is that what you might find in a
large development or on a subdivision is you've got one LBP,
you know who who their name is attached to let's
say the framing or the cladding of ten or four
fifteen houses. Now, realistically, speaking with the greatest respect to

(01:30:10):
anybody else's ability, they're unlikely to be able to supervise
those adequately, I think. But so that that's a problem
with the system, you know. But they but even if they,
even if the you know, the LBP decides well, look,
I'm going to sign my name to all of these
records of work saying that I supervised it. If there's

(01:30:31):
a problem, it becomes that person's problem. Right, So this
is the Again, the best thing about the system is
there will be a name and a number attached to
that work and that person is responsible for it. Yees,
so I and you know it might be that ABC

(01:30:52):
Builders is building fifteen houses, but whoever the builder, the
license building practitioner doing the work, they will be an
individual in which so I think they're the ones who
are responsible for it. So I think it sounds like
you know, it's awful to hear that you're in this situation.

(01:31:15):
It's going to end up with your lawyers. But I
would also, given the poor quality of the work that's
been done, identify who the building license building practitioners were
and I would go to the disciplinary board about them
as well.

Speaker 14 (01:31:31):
Yeah, we've taken about a year and a half to
get all the record of work. Yes, they dragged the
chain of it.

Speaker 6 (01:31:37):
On that so.

Speaker 5 (01:31:40):
See even that it's a statutory requirement. If you've finished
a piece of work, you must assure a record of works, right,
the law is quite clear you can't hold on to it.
You can't hold on to the record of works until
you get paid for example, which is a ploy that
people will use. As soon as you finish the work,

(01:32:01):
you write out the record of work and you hand
it into whoever is responsible for the overall job. You
have to do them straight away.

Speaker 14 (01:32:09):
Yeah, because it's it's still being paid for as well,
so it's not like we're with payment. So those the
other I mean, the one thing we haven't done because
the next thing we've get done for defamation is I've
got a that they and I don't want to be
faspicious here, but they do actually have a franchise which

(01:32:34):
seemingly is quite successful in the area of Aubor that
you know, I could quite quickly highlight the works as
I've gone on our property or have you seen instances
where that just sort of flips around the opposite way? Yeah,
I mean you're not a lawyer, No.

Speaker 5 (01:32:56):
No, no, I guess you know, you would think that
all companies would be interested in protecting their reputation, some,
I guess more so than others. I think sometimes with
larger networks, you know, or group home builders. Maybe with
and I say this out of respect with franchise builders, sometimes,
you know, the person running the franchise might not always

(01:33:18):
know exactly what's happening on every single site, so it
can be a bit of a surprise when a homeowner goes,
you know, further up the chain and says to the
more senior people. Hey, look, this has been my experience.
But I was talking to the project manager. He said,
it's been an awesome job. Okay, well he's he's a
bit more information. So I think in your case, I

(01:33:40):
wouldn't announce anything publicly, but it's worth taking your concerns
further up the tree as well.

Speaker 14 (01:33:47):
Okay, Okay, yeah, Look, thank you very.

Speaker 8 (01:33:50):
Much for that.

Speaker 5 (01:33:51):
No, please stay in touch and I always I mean, look,
it's not a great thing to be talking about, but
it's it is a very very important issue that you've raised,
so I really appreciate it. Right, we've got to run
for a break. Thanks very much. We'll talk to Alan
to the break, and then remember rid climb passed from
eight point thirty this morning. It is eight eighteen from.

Speaker 2 (01:34:12):
Summer backyard jobs to Big Rennolds.

Speaker 1 (01:34:14):
Let's talk it through call oh eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty the resident building with Peterwilcab News talks AB.

Speaker 5 (01:34:22):
Yeah, News TALKSB. We're talking all things building in construction
for the next couple of minutes anyway, and then we're
into the garden with red climb past colin text how
do you install weatherboards incorrectly? I just don't get it.
I think the most common issue is either having insufficient
lap or potentially having too much lap. So and it

(01:34:46):
might also be if it's a specific type of weatherboard system,
not sort of your standard bevel back, it could be
that they've just not followed the manufacturer's instructions. So some
boards are fixed only at the top, some boards are
only fixed at the bottom, that sort of thing. So, yeah,
I know it's when you first hear that you go,

(01:35:08):
how you know we've been doing weather boards for what
one hundred and fifty years? How is it people don't
know how to do them? But hey, human beings are amazing.
Twenty two minutes after eight, Hello Ellen, morning, pay Ellen.

Speaker 15 (01:35:22):
I might be covering the same ground you did with
the last chorus. So now I'm an old builder from
way back. Yep, what's wrong with the self build years ago?
You could just self build. I'm sure anyone today can
still self self built. I saw the announcement with the
seventy square meter gain flaps and you have to go

(01:35:42):
to a professional building consultant.

Speaker 8 (01:35:45):
Well that is true, was it? You can self build
it yourself?

Speaker 15 (01:35:47):
You're right, I'm sure you still can.

Speaker 5 (01:35:51):
Or maybe not maybe not. I tell you what, it's
a great question, and I don't absolutely have the answer,
but I will. I will do some reading and some
research this week. So what you're saying is once the
License Building practition or when the Licensed Building Practitioner scheme
came in, which was what twenty ten through twenty twelve,

(01:36:13):
it created this idea of restricted building work. Restricted building
work could only be done by an LBP. Except what
they didn't, right, you can still self built, That's right.
That's so I was going to say, except there is
an exception, which is if you are a homeowner building
for yourself, you can apply for an exemption to that.
And it's the self build exemption, which is it's limited.

(01:36:36):
You can only do it a number of times. Right,
So it's not like you can avoid the LBP scheme
and just keep on building without being an LBP. So
that allows for that, Whether or not, given that you
don't need a building consent for the my for the
granny flats, would you be able to go to counsel

(01:36:57):
and say I want to apply for a self built
exemption and not have to use an LBP for the construction.
I will find out. I don't know maybe though withdrawn
that exemption because they want to make sure that professionals
are involved in the construction of these, given that there's

(01:37:18):
no inspections. Right, So I guess the safety part of
it was. Let's say you're a homeowner with suitable skills
and you want to build a minor SSD, a simple
standalone dwelling in your backyard without getting a consent. If

(01:37:39):
you were doing it under the old legislation, at least
there'd be the surety of a council inspector coming to
see your work. But if you were not an LVP
and there were no inspections, is that too much risk.

Speaker 8 (01:37:55):
Of worms?

Speaker 5 (01:37:57):
Indeed, we have you and I could go fishing with
a can of worms. That big.

Speaker 3 (01:38:04):
I tell you.

Speaker 5 (01:38:05):
I promise I will write myself a note now and
I will go off and do a little bit of
reading on that. Thank you. That's awesome. That's given me
something to do this week. Not that I don't have
other things to do, but I'm looking forward to that. Hey,
I love talking with you as always. That's actually that's
a very very very good question. I will go and

(01:38:26):
do some research, and in fact I've got a call
in to Mike Blackburn. So if you look online, even
in Facebook and that sort of thing, Mike writes a
number of articles. He does insights into particularly Canterbury construction,
and he's written a pretty good summary of the Grannie
Flat legislation and some of his concerns around it. So

(01:38:50):
have a look at that online, righty oh. I think
we'll take a short break. We'll take a breath, we'll
take some ads, we'll get rid up, and we're into
the garden ladies and gentlemen. It is coming up to
gardening time, or the wonderful world of bug time. Rit
Cline past will be with us after the break.

Speaker 1 (01:39:06):
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