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Yes, DC is Dangerous

 

Trump’s declaration that crime is “out of control” and his plan to deploy federal resources in Washington, D.C. has sparked fierce debate, with Democrats downplaying the issue and conservative voices pushing back.  Clay and Buck dissect the Democratic response, particularly Chuck Schumer’s claim that Trump is using crime as a distraction from the Epstein case. They argue this narrative is politically desperate and disconnected from reality. Polling data from the Washington Post reveals that 91% of D.C. residents believe crime is a problem, with 51% calling it extremely serious, reinforcing Trump’s position and exposing a rift between political elites and everyday Americans.

 

Commentary from figures like Joe Scarborough and S.E. Cupp—typically aligned with the left—acknowledges the severity of urban crime and criticizes the Democratic strategy of relying on charts and statistics to dismiss public fear. The show highlights how Trump’s tough-on-crime stance resonates with voters, especially in lower-income and minority communities disproportionately affected by violence.

 

Subway Guy Gets Fired

 

A viral incident involving a Department of Justice employee assaulting a police officer with a Subway sandwich becomes symbolic of the broader cultural clash over law enforcement. The assailant was charged with felony assault, and Attorney General Pam Bondi emphasized that such behavior will not be tolerated under the Trump administration. The hosts argue this marks a shift toward restoring respect for law enforcement and public safety.

 

The hour also explores urban crime disparities, comparing affluent areas like Northwest D.C. and Georgetown to high-crime zones like Southeast D.C. and parts of Houston. The discussion underscores how liberal elites, often shielded by private security, remain insulated from the violence impacting working-class neighborhoods.

 

Buck Gets "Served"

 

A spirited debate over Buck Sexton’s claim that he can serve a tennis ball at 100 mph. Professional tennis legends Andy Roddick and John Isner weigh in, casting doubt on the claim and sparking playful banter about technique, athleticism, and tennis attire. Lara Travis, Clay’s wife, joins the conversation via talkback, laying out the terms of the bet and rooting for Buck to defy the odds. The segment draws comparisons to amateur sports challenges and includes reflections on training for the NFL Combine, highlighting the difference between raw power and refined skill.

 

AK Gov. Mike Dunleavy

 

Clay and Buck discuss the geopolitical significance of Alaska, emphasizing its proximity to Russia and its strategic military assets, including missile intercepts and the largest Coast Guard presence in the U.S.  Alaska Governor Mike Dunleavy joins the show to provide insight into the summit’s logistics, security measures, and the potential for Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to join future peace talks. The governor praises Trump’s leadership and expresses optimism that the summit could mark a historic turning point in resolving the war in Ukraine. 

 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Thursday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate
all of you hanging out with us. We have got
a loaded program coming for you. Howard Kurtz from Fox News,
Carol Markowitz from New York Post and the Clay and
Buck podcast network. And then the governor of Alaska, Mike Dunleavy,
not the former basketball player.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
I don't think. I don't think he's doing double duty.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
He will be with us as we look towards the
eve of the Trump putin meeting in Anchorage, Alaska, that
is scheduled for tomorrow. I'm sure there will be much
discussion of that both today and tomorrow. But we told
you this on Monday. Trump came out at I believe
it was ten am East Coast time on Monday and

(00:46):
said crime is out of control in Washington, DC, and
I'm gonna marshal as many federal resources as necessary to
help stop that from being a reality.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
He was fed up with what he was seeing.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
We now are on day four of Trump dominating the
news cycle, and the news cycle being Democrats arguing, Hey,
crime isn't actually that bad, and meanwhile almost everybody else
is saying, actually, yet is really bad, And why are

(01:19):
you opposed to making crime better than it is right now?
And I just want to play a couple of cuts here, Buck,
to get you started for the day. This is and
I want to give credit before I play him.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
By the way.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
We have finally reached a bridge to lunacy that Joe
Scarborough will not take to defend left wing talking points,
perhaps embarrassed chasen by his ridiculousness. As it pertains to
Joe Biden, he is actually making some sense. But first
the people who are not making sense. Chuck Schumer, he

(01:56):
of the Hey, I'd like to cook hamburgers on a grill.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Awk Ward.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Increasingly without power in the Senate, Terrified that AOC is
going to challenge him, he says, I feel perfectly safe
in DC, and this is all just an Epstein distraction.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Flailing Chuck Schumer. Cut three.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
I walk around all the time.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
I wake up early in the morning sometimes and take
a nice walk as the sun is rising around some
of the capital and the other monuments and things, and.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
I feel perfectly safe.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
They're full of it.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
Look, here's what they've done, Aaron, plain and simple. Donald
Trump wants to distract.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
That's his game.

Speaker 5 (02:35):
Plan.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
It's been his mo for his first term in the
presidency and now so he trying to make this a distraction.
What's he trying to distract from, Well, a lot of things,
but above all Epstein. We've been confronting him on Epstein
very successfully left and right, so much so that Johnson
had a dismiss you know, had to send his house

(02:57):
a home early, and we called it the Epstein recess.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Okay, this is desperate, primarily because Democrats were in power
for four years and did nothing at all. By and
large relating to Epstein, Epstein has started to vanish as
Trump has, I think, tried to marshal as much public
release of data as he possibly can, and Democrats are

(03:23):
now buck in the position of arguing. The first part
of this is what I thought was interesting, Chuck Schumer saying,
I get up early in the morning and I walk
around the Capitol. First of all, I question how often
this happens. Maybe hopefully he's out for walks and he's
a very healthy guy. But I don't think most people
are saying, hey, it's six am, it's deadly necessarily to

(03:43):
go walk along beside the Washington Monument and the Lincoln memorial.
I think even Chuck Schumer would have to realize that
much of the issue related to crime is in residential areas,
and this is kind of a flailing nature that they're
in right now. They're telling people to not believe what
they see with their own eyes. Crime is bad, and

(04:05):
I think everybody out there recognizing it and Trump trying
to make it better is actually just a good thing
and not particularly political. It's also remarkable that the fallback
now has turned into, well, we're doing such a good
job as Democrats on the Epstein thing. Yeah, that's the
big that's the big attack. That's what they're going after

(04:25):
the administration on, just to note something they didn't care
about at all four years. For four years, yeah, there
was absolutely no discussion whatsoever from them about Epstein. And
yet here we are now being told that any so
anything that Trump wants to talk about that they don't
want to talk about.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Now.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Their go to is he just wants to distract from Epstein.
I think that's.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
People from being murdered in order to distract from Epstein.
I would argue, would even be even if it were true,
I would actually argue, that's good. You know, Epstein's dead
and not come, to my knowledge, any current crimes. I'd
rather protect people from current crimes as opposed to focus
on past ones personally. So even that argument is a

(05:08):
weak one when you actually break it down in that respect.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, I think that the whole Democrat Party is desperate
for anything that they can say right now. That just
seems like they're even in opposition because there's nothing they
can really pull Uh, there's nothing they can really pull
together that will hit hard against where Trump currently is.
I would note that on the crime issue, you've had

(05:35):
a number of people come out come forward. Here. Here's
my old friend se Cup. Actually I wanted to play
this one. She used to do the Real New Show
with me at The Blaze many years ago at Glenn
Beck's The Blaze, and she had this to say at
CNN to the Democrats, to their faces, play seven.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
The numbers can be what they are.

Speaker 6 (05:55):
But also people don't feel that way.

Speaker 7 (05:57):
And when it comes to two things, crime in the economy,
feelings don't really care about your facts. And I can't
tell you how profoundly stupid it is for Democrats to
get up with their facts and their figures and their
charts in the.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Graphs and say, look, you're safe. Can't you read this chart? Idiots?
Why are you complaining?

Speaker 6 (06:14):
I'm showing you right here how safe you are, So
shut up and move along.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, it doesn't work. Tough argument, and that's what they're trying.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
And I give credit you wanted to play se cup there.
There's actually quite a few people on the left that
are saying, you know what, again, this is a bridge
too far. Joe Scarborough, who basically proved he didn't have
a gag reflex as long as Joe Biden was president,
even he now is saying, look, DC is really dangerous.

(06:42):
And on MSNBC they have that panel show, the Morning
Show that you watch, Buck, I watched this clip. There's
like eight people that are all there in like tiny
little boxes. They have this huge up ensemble cast and
Scarborough's just lecturing everybody. Actually, Trump's right about how violent
the crime situation is. And I don't think this is

(07:03):
playing very well. Here's cut eight. This is what they
heard on MSNBC.

Speaker 8 (07:07):
The answer to this, this this problem for Democrats is
not everything's okay, there's nothing to see here, Move along,
move along. Oh, Washington has dropped twenty four percent or
whatever in crime.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Well, let me give you some other numbers.

Speaker 9 (07:25):
The Washington Post took a poll in late April early May.
Ninety one percent of Washington residents say crime is a problem,
ninety one percent fifty one percent it is an extremely
serious problem. There are stark divides among the lines of

(07:47):
race and income in the poll, with black residents and
lower income residents significantly more worried about crime than white
residents and those with high incomes.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
I think that's actually well said by Joe Scarborough. The
base of the Democrat Party actually feels the crime, that
is poor black voters in a way that the left
wing media that lives in Northwest d C. And oftentimes
has private security protecting them, is a bit protected from this.

(08:26):
And this ties in with what Harry Inton is saying
this is CNN that he thinks this is a total
miscalculation by Democrats too, and again trying to reduce violent
crime as something historically that almost all Americans have been
in favor of.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Cut six.

Speaker 7 (08:41):
Look at where Donald Trump is way, way way above
Joe Biden.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
What is that?

Speaker 3 (08:46):
That's twenty seven points.

Speaker 7 (08:48):
So Americans vastly prefer Donald Trump's approach to crime than
they ditch to Joe Biden's and again, I think it
gets back to the point that Americans are far more
hawkish on crime than a lot of Democrats want to it.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
Man, this isn't just about Donald Trump.

Speaker 7 (09:02):
It's about Republicans versus Democrats, right, And that, of course
is a key question going into next year's midterm election.
I think the party closest to your views on crime.
Look in twenty twenty three, Republicans were favored by thirteen points.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Look at where they were in May of this year.
Republicans were actually favored by sixty months. They actually gained
ground on crime.

Speaker 7 (09:21):
They were maintaining their edgent actually added a little bit
to it. So Republicans in the House, Republicans in the Senate,
they absolutely want to be talking about crime. The more
they feel that we're talking about crime, the better they
feel that the electoral landscape is for them.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Are you surprised that this has been the Democrat position
that actually crimes getting better and that Trump. I mean,
if they had come out and said, hey, he's exceeding
his presidential authority, we don't like that. But to argue, hey,
crime's actually down and there's no need for this it
feels like an own goal, uh, shooting themselves in the foot,

(09:55):
even within lenient standards, because Democrats do that a lot.
I'm kind of surprised that they stepped right into this
bear trap.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
I guess they just don't really have any sense of
of how to pivot from something that Trump is on
and come up with a better or a you know,
their own version of how to fix it. Because to me,
that would be they could come out and say, well,
this isn't for the president to do, but we should
have more resources for now. I think the response to

(10:26):
that would likely be something along the lines of, yeah,
we've been trying that. Whatever they're going to say has
probably been tried before and failed for a long time.
And I think that they're going to be in trouble
no matter what. But they have turned something that you
would think would be a more minor issue into a
much larger, much longer term issue, which I find surprising

(10:46):
the lack of political foresight that they have here. They've
given Trump the news cycle this whole week, to the
point where as we said, Chuck Schumer is saying it's
because he doesn't want to talk about Epstein. But how
long are they going to be pulling that one off
that doesn't work. And also to look at the numbers,
the crime numbers they initially kept comparing it to twenty
twenty three. Comparing the drop in crime to the year

(11:11):
that had the single nationwide largest increase in homicides in
sixty years looks really disingenuous to anybody who understands numbers
and statistics, so that they're having problems all over the place.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Well, I also think Scarborough's point is well taken. I
mean a Washington Post poll or did he say ninety
one percent of DC residents say crime is a problem,
and I think he said fifty six percent said it
was an incredibly significant problem. You can't lie to people
about what they feel. Eventually you can address the underlying concerns.

(11:44):
I'll give you an example on this right now. The
economy is getting better under Trump. But I also understand
that explaining to people that the economy is getting better
is sometimes challenging because it takes a while for the
national economic mood to shift and reflect what people are

(12:04):
actually seeing. I think some of you are feeling it.
Gas prices are down relative to where they have been,
Grocery prices according to the most recent producer price Index
numbers actually coming down. And so the challenge I think
is prices went up so fast that things still cost
more than people think they should. But we are rectifying

(12:28):
this issue in many different ways. It's just taking a
little while. And again, Trump has commandeered the national news
cycle now for four days over he wants to bring
down violent crime. Democrats have mostly said violent crime is
not that much of an issue. And now starting tomorrow,
all of the new cycle through the entire weekend is

(12:50):
going to be reacting to Trump and Putin and what
is likely to be occurring based on that relationship.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
So all of that coming your way.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
But you know the world is going a little bit
upside down when even a guy like Joe Scarborough is saying, hey,
you're making a lot of sense here.

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Welcome Back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show Rolling through
the Thursday edition of the program. Lots of reaction rolling
in to Pink Polo and his subway attack assault on
an officer. But I do think it's somewhat representative of

(15:00):
a certain left wing response to increase police officers in DC.
There are protests now that are developing against police officers
being able to protect people from being murdered. And I
just I look at this, and I do think Buck,
what Trump kind of is brilliantly exploiting in some way

(15:24):
is the disconnect from the people who are the limousine
liberal universe, as Rushwood call them, who typically have their
own private security. They have their own universe that tends
to be far safer, where the rules are enforced and
law is respected. And then most of those people, by

(15:44):
the way, live in Northwest d C, which, for those
of you who don't know, is by far the wealthiest
part of the Washington DC area. And then there's all
the other people who tend to live in Southeast and
live in a lawless in many ways society, and they're
begging for help and Trump is giving it to them,
and the pink Polos of the world are furious that

(16:07):
there are police officers out on the streets. I do
think that that video that has gone megaviral is somewhat
evocative of that disconnect, because in general, I think it
represents like, if you have that level of disrespect for
a police officer, it's probably because you don't feel personally

(16:30):
threatened by violence. And that's the only reason I can
think of why you're screaming at a police officer standing
on the street trying to enforce the law. But I
do think that Joe Scarborough commentary and that video just
really kind of illustrate in a very quick manner what

(16:50):
Trump has pointed out, which is most people on the
left don't actually care about violence because it doesn't impact
their daily life.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, and they reckonize that Republicans have staked out for
a long time now, the position of we do need
to just enforce the law, we need to back police,
and we need to incarcerate people. Where none of this
stuff gets better, and every time they're able to have
it their way or every time that experiment is wrong.
With that in mind, things do get better, things do improve. Uh,

(17:20):
so we we own this territory, so to speak, as
Republicans and Democrats don't want to seed ever that we
are correct. It's suburn, it's it's a bit of bitterness
too thrown in there. And as you say, it's because
so many of these people. And it was like, uh,
well I was. I was taking some shots at what
was George will with the boat tie the other day. Yeah,

(17:40):
it Chevy lives in Chevy Chase. Chevy Chase is not
is not DC DC, right, I mean this is this
is like people. There are areas I've been to a
suburbs of Baltimore beautiful people have like farms, and I
mean it's lovely. You know, it's really nice. That's not Baltimore,
even if it's Baltimore County whatever, it is, right. So
a lot of people, I think that way in on

(18:01):
this stuff too. They say. As a New Yorker, I'm
particularly sensitive to this. People say, you know, I think
New York is really safe, and like where do you
live Chappaquah, You don't know, you know nothing, exactly where
do you let Scarsdale. Yeah, I'm like, I'm sym Scarsdale
is safe. I'm not worried about Scarsdale, but you know,
go spend some time in the South Bronxon talk to

(18:22):
me about how safe the city is. Although New York
Manhattan is pretty safe for a large city, Boston, I
believe is a good bit safer for a a sizable city.
So there's really substantial differences here when you look at it.
I was surprised Houston's actually got more of a crime.
You don't hear about it a lot. I was looking

(18:43):
at some of the stats. Houston has a rougher time
with crime, with homicides specifically and shootings that I had
to anticipate. It doesn't get a lot of news coverage.
But that was another city because obviously one of the
biggest cities in the country that came up that definitely
needs some help. I think they have a BORSDA, or
at least they to.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
One of the challenges on the data is where I
live is Williamson County, right, I think south of Nashville.
I think I don't know, there's like three hundred thousand
people or something who live in my county. Basically, it's Nashville.
There's a murder rate essentially here of zero. There might
have been one or two murders in the whole county

(19:21):
in a year. And so one of the challenges you
get into to be fair on some of this data
is some cities only count a certain part of the city,
and it could be a big, sprawling metropolis. And so
I wonder on Houston, which is the fourth biggest city
in the country, right, it's a huge, sprawling metropolis. That's
why I think the New York data is so interesting,

(19:43):
because New York City has what eight million people who
live in the five boroughs of New York City, if
I'm not mistaken roughly, and you compare that eight million
with the seven hundred thousand or so that live in
d C, and DC per capita is out of control.
Some people would say, well, if you count Montgomery County
and you count Arlington and all the surrounding areas, d

(20:06):
C would look a lot less violent than it does
when you only count the district of Columbia by itself. So,
for instance, Shelby County where Memphis is is insanely violent,
But if you counted all of the surrounding metropolitan area
of Memphis, it would dial back some of the violence
a little bit. So my point on that is sometimes

(20:27):
the data is an entirely illustrative of the full picture.
But I do think DC which exists in this unique
world where it's just a federal district. To your point,
the George Wills of the world, they live just across
the border in Maryland and they're like, there is no
crime here. You're like, well, yeah, George, you probably haven't
been to Southeast d C In forty years, unless you

(20:51):
count going to the Washington Nationals. Like right on the
edge I think of southeast a little bit is where
the baseball stadium is there.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
So it is in.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Many ways something that I think the elite the wealthy
of DC just pretend doesn't exist because it doesn't come
into their universe very often. And remember this has been
a big issue in DC for a long time. They
kept the subway from going to Georgetown because they didn't
want people who were poor to have easy access to

(21:24):
people who were rich. In DC, it is a huge deal.
They didn't want the subway. Anybody who's been there, you
have to get out at GW and walk up or
you have to now take obviously an uber or walk
across the river from Virginia. They tried to protect themselves
from the lesser class who couldn't afford their multimillion dollar

(21:45):
Georgetown mansions. It is very interesting all those people vote left,
All those people were Kamala voters. But boy, they really
don't want violent crime to have easy access to them,
do they.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
And yet Georgetown does have its spillover of a lot
safe than other parts of the city, of course, but
there's stuff that happens in Georgetown that is that you'd
be shocked for this to occur in the nicest neighborhood
of other cities. So look, Trump is right on this,
and Democrats can do whatever they want with this, with

(22:16):
the squawking and the and the screaming, and they can
they can throw a fit at the end of the day.

Speaker 5 (22:22):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Trump has latched onto yet another issue. Has has put
forward another program and set of policies where anybody who
is being honest about it is saying, yeah, that that
seems more, that seems sensible. And they have already been
doing a number of arrests. They're taking dangerous people off
the off the streets. So I think that you might

(22:44):
it's gonna say, it's not gonna be a huge change
in the crime data, but it will have a positive effect.
Our subway assaulter is was a Department of Justice employee.
And this is the I mean, this is what Attorney
General Pam Bondi tweeted just a little bit ago. I

(23:04):
just learned this defendant worked at the Department of Justice
no longer, Bondi said, in all caps, this is an
example of the deep state we have been up against
for seven months. As we work to refocus DJ, you
will not work in this administration while disrespecting our government
and law enforcement. And so this individual is named.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
I want to make sure I get his name, Sean
Charles Dunn, and he was a DOJ employee. But I
do think do you think that guy in DJ was
aggressively enforcing Trump DOJ policies? I bet that he was
a diehard commalist supporter. That's why he was screaming at
the judge and I mean screaming at the officer and

(23:54):
why he felt like he could just pull back a
sub and throw it. Because to be fair, how many
times have you seen videos of police officers just taking
objects being pelted at these BLM protests for instance, nothing
ever happened. You just got guys standing there, water bottles
hitting them, all sorts of pepper spray sometimes. I mean,
so I do think this is a change of policy.

(24:16):
The guy thought, Hey, nothing's gonna happen to me. I'm
just gonna throw this at the officer, and you know
it is it is going to be interesting. That happened
Sunday night, Northwest DC, and he was arrested Wednesday night.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Do we know what sparked the Sandwich confrontation.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
The report is that he was angry over too many
police officers and screaming at the police officers for standing around,
and that was what eventually led him. I mean, I
assume when I watched this video and the way he ran, yeah,
that's my assumption. I mean, it doesn't look like something
that a sober guy would do. So I'm assuming the

(24:58):
guy had been out somewhere, probably had too many dreams.
Was a leftist got angry at a police officer, thought
that there would be no consequences because there haven't been
really any consequences for leftists who do anything to police
officers for years, and as the kids say, f A
and now he's f owing.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yeah, I'm shocked that this guy would think that this
is going to go in any you know, doing this
at any point in time is unwise to do it
right now given the focus on this nationalists is pretty crazy.
But you know, there are people who believe this stuff
about how this is this is martial law or the
militarization of police, and this is part of There are

(25:40):
less of them now than there have been, but there
are still people out there who think that Trump is
about to declare himself like dictator for life and this
is part of that move. So you can see this
stuff online, but imagine working at the DOJ and think
that's what I'm saying. This is the part of it
that's really bizarre to me. And also not understanding or

(26:04):
or being able to think about the consequences in advance
of assaulting a police officer in the current environment like
that when you work for the Department of Justice. I mean,
he would you would hope that he would know that
it is technically a felony to physically assault the police
officer who on duty. I mean, you think you would
know that. I think that this is an example of

(26:27):
how you have protected people for leftist political thought. I
think he thought that he was above the law, and
I think he has now found out that.

Speaker 10 (26:36):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
There's there's a lot so many subway sandwich jokes that
you can make, but where are you on? Side? So
I really can't because of Celiac disease. Unfortunately, I really
can't experience the full glories of the subway sandwich. Where
are you on that? I love Subway there, I've never

(26:57):
I have never had a subway sandwich that I can
remember in your life.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
I like Subway, I like Jimmy John's, I like all
of the you know, you give me a sandwich with
chips and a soda, It's to me the perfect meal.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
I understand. What is the best of the sandwich I get?

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, I get either the meatball sub at Subway, which
I think is very good, or I get my tubs
my my sub toasted. Uh and I get my favorite
is sweet onion chicken tarioki sub.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
So those are the two my typical go to. If
I'm now I'm getting hungry, and if Subway just got
a huge advertisement from us that they were never planning
on thanks to that moron throwing a subway sandwich at
the at the cop But I'm a big fan.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
I like Subway. I think, relatively speaking, it's it's healthy.
You know, they had that one guy who lost a
lot of money that I've lost a lot of weight.
Unfortunately he ended up being a pedophile. I think, right well,
that was an unexpected twist in the in the weight
loss story. But uh, you know, I mean I I
do think that that they do a good job of
letting you count calories, which is not necessarily very easy

(28:03):
in much of the fast food universe.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
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(28:28):
maybe even ten miles an hour onto your serve. Clay.
We'll see, we'll see what chalk can do in the serves,
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Speaker 10 (29:36):
Sometimes all you can do is laugh, and they do
a lot of it. With the Sunday Hang, Join Clay
and Buck as they lap it up in the Klay
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Speaker 1 (29:50):
President Trump, as we speak in the Oval Office, he
will be headed to Alaska soon. We are going to
talk with the Governor of Alaska, Mike Levy at the
bottom of this hour about the big meeting between Putin
and Trump that is scheduled to take place in Anchorage
and what he expects to see there. I can only

(30:11):
imagine the amount of security that will be in place
for that face to face meeting, and certainly we will
be covering that in earnest tomorrow, and we're going to
have a couple of cuts from inside of the Oval Office.
It is the ninetieth anniversary of the creation of Social Security.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
A couple of.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Things that Trump has said, just to give you a
little bit of a news bulletin here. He has said
that two hundred and seventy five thousand illegal legal aliens,
that is, non citizens, have been removed from Social Security.
So there were, according to President Trump, a lot of
people who are not citizens that were enrolled to receive

(30:51):
Social Security. And also that there remains an inordinate number
of people who are listed as receiving soecurity, or at
least in the database over one hundred and twenty years old.
Elon Musk even weighed in on that commentary. All this
taking place from inside of the Oval office. Let me

(31:13):
fill you in on the Elon Musker response to what
Trump said, but basically that there are not very many people,
as you would well imagine, over the age of one
hundred and so twelve point four This according to Margo Martin,
who does great work for President Trump, twelve point four

(31:35):
million names listed in the Social Security database were over
one hundred and twenty years of age, and Elon Musk
responded to that by saying the oldest actually living American
is one hundred and fourteen years old.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Now we got a couple of these cuts to be
able to play for you. Trump asked for his message
to Democrats, saying there's no crime in DC. Cut twenty five.
This just happened in the Oval Office.

Speaker 11 (32:05):
It's another reason why the Democrats lost the election in
a landslide.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
They lie.

Speaker 11 (32:09):
It's just why I look, the crime is very bad.
I think that'd be much better off saying we want
to help President Trump with a crime because it's an epidemic.
It's a tragic situation. It's the worst it's ever been.
And we want to help President Trump with a crime
as opposed to he's a dictator. He's a dictator. People
are so happy to see our military going into DC

(32:30):
and getting these thugs out. As you know, we arrested
a lot of people yesterday. We arrested a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
Today.

Speaker 11 (32:36):
We're getting people that have arrest records.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
That you wouldn't believe.

Speaker 11 (32:40):
Twenty eight arrests, fifteen arrests, brutal, brutal people. And we're
going to have to do something about this cash list
spail because people shoot somebody, they kill somebody, and they're
out on the street in less than an hour.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Okay, He continued talking about that. We can also have
some fun, and by the way, I've got some fun
coming for Buck here in a moment too on his
tennis game.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
But we're covering wide rages here. To start the third hour,
Elizabeth Warren coming in for maybe a tomahawk chop from
President Trump. This has cut twenty six.

Speaker 11 (33:12):
Elizabeth Warren said she was an Indian. We call her Pocahontas.
She's a liar. She lied her whole career based on
the fact that she was an Indian. She was able
to get into certain colleges, get certain jobs, get into
certain universities to work there. She's a liar and a
mean person. She's a nutjob.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
I watched her the other night.

Speaker 11 (33:33):
She's all hopped up endorsing a communist in New York City,
and she was all excited and jumping up and down.
She's got to take a drug test, she really does.
She's got to take a drug test. There's no way
somebody can act that way and be normal. What she's
done to a financial institutions. She destroys people. Do you
know that you had a lot of great banks in
the Midwest and banks that loaned to farmers and others,

(33:56):
and they went out of business. She put them out
of business.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Stone cold mean, Okay.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
One last cut from the Oval Office. This is what
I said about two hundred and seventy five thousand illegal
immigrants have been removed from the Social Security program on
its ninetieth anniversary cut twenty seven.

Speaker 11 (34:14):
To protect our benefits, we've already kicked nearly two hundred
and seventy five thousand illegal aliens off of the Social
Security system. These are people, many of them have already
left the country, and yet we were sending them checks
all the time, and two hundred and seventy five thousand
and that numbers now even larger than that. Frank, it's

(34:35):
unbelievable job. And what that's doing is making the system strong.
It's making it strong. Biden never kicked anybody off. Everybody joined,
and we're carrying out historic deportations to remove many more
illegals committing social security fraud. It's the social security fraud
that was taking place at levels that nobody's ever seen.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Okay, all of that under way in the Oval office now.
Yesterday buck Sexton said that he could hit or maybe
a couple of days ago, that he could hit one
hundred mile an hour serve I one time. Just to
be clear, one time. This is not that I hit.
This is a very important distinction, not that I hit
one hundred mile an hour serve regularly, that I could

(35:20):
do it one time. We now have some of the
best tennis players in the world, and actually some of
the greatest servers in terms of power of all time.
I mean, I think Andy Roddick is probably the greatest server,
one of the top five greatest servers of all time
in tennis. He has weigh in on my middle aged

(35:40):
man reck not even college level tennis game.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Well, first let's start with John Isner. Who is I
think didn't you tell us yesterday? John Isner, American tennis player.
I believe he went to the University of Georgia. I
know he's a big Georgia Bulldog fan. Really good dude.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
He hopped on Twitter and said, I'm calling that serve
around ninety five miles per hour.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
My bet is no. Now you might say, okay, John isn'ter.
In addition to being one of the greatest American tennis
players of his generation, he's got the second strongest serve.
You said in like the history of tennis.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
I believe that's correct. In terms of serve speed. On
the Pro Tour, there's like other people, I don't count
it when you're looking at the records. It has to
be someone did it in a match right now.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Not like my longest drive competition where you just get
to show up like you have to actually be a pro.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
I mean as a pro when it counts the fastest
serve you've ever hit. I mean Roddick got over one
forty and I mean look, I'll tell you guys this,
Like I mean, getting over ninety is for sure. For
those of you who don't know, like I already know.
I knew that before I took the bet. Getting over
one hundred is hard though. That's why I'm like, look,
this is I can do it one time, I think,

(36:49):
But over ninety, no question. So those of you who
are saying I serve sixty miles an hour, your math
is bad. But like I said, I'm gonna I got
the speed gun. It arrived and we're going to have
some speed gun. I'm trying to get to it this weekend,
but I'll certainly get to it sometime next week so
we'll have some more video proof. And I won't wear
all white. Some people are like, that's just I was.
It was literally laundry day over here, and people were

(37:11):
white when they played tennis. I don't know why that's
such a weird thing for people, like people wear white.
I don't know is why if I went if I
wear if I wear all black in Miami, that would
be weird because I would melt more than I already did.
I will sometimes say uh when I see a friend
wearing the same color top and bottom that Hey, I

(37:35):
guess you're I mean, like I will make fun to
be fair, like if you came in if we went
to I bet Carrie would make fun of you if
you were doing anything other than playing tennis and you
walked in in the exact same top and bottom. So
but that's the most traditional. I mean, wearing whites to
play tennis is not some weird thing. This is just
like a standard thing. There are a lot of country

(37:55):
acquired and aire it. Yeah, so that's why people like,
why are you wearing all white? I was like, I
don't know, because my tennis gear that I happened to
have today. But I promise next time it won't be
all in white. People are very fussy. John Isner awesome dude.
Andy Rottick I worked with a lot at Fox. Absolutely
awesome guy. Just a genuinely really really good dude, great

(38:15):
sense of humor. Also happens to be the best American
tennis player. What the last twenty years, Probably this is
the this is the tennis equivalent though off. If you
know years ago, Rush Limbaugh had weighed in on some
guy who had like started a podcast on the weekend,
like his monologue. Yeah, that's that's to have Isner and

(38:36):
Rotick like weighing in on my serve is kind of
like it would be like Rush being like, hey, this
is your first radio show, like you got some you
got some pipes. You know, you're working, like encouraging.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
But Andy Roddick said one hundred miles per hour less certain.
But he did say the fact that he put on
full ankle braces just to serve is the real issue here.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
So oh no, but I was that okay, Well, to
be clear, that wasn't That's not I was playing. That
was a lesson. So I was actually playing tennis. I
just stopped for a minute to do to do a serve. Well,
I just think Andy is a very funny guy. So
he was he used to wear the ankle braces. Tell Andy,
he's lighting me up. I have I have excuse me,
mister Roddick, I have cavo Veri's feet, which means that
I have.

Speaker 6 (39:17):
A sorry I had to knock off my head getting worse.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
This is getting worse, which means that I have as
This is like telling Michael Jordan when he asked why
you're wearing an arm sleeve that you have, you know, hypertension.

Speaker 6 (39:30):
In your elbow what if I what of.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
My buddies used to say I used to play I
used to play pick up basketball, and his line, and
I think it's an all time line. He said, if
you have any brace, you have to be twice as
good as the worst player on the court. And I
just think that's such an amazing line. He's like, if
you show up for pickup basketball and you got like
an elbow sleeve on, or you got ankle braces, or

(39:57):
you have like a knee knee thing, He's like, you
her be twice as good as the worst player on
the court because everybody's just gonna be looking at you.

Speaker 6 (40:06):
Like I just.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Was very funny. You have to tell mister Roddick, okay,
who is who is a tennis serve and tennis god
in general, But you have to tell him that I
was playing tennis. I just stopped to take a serve.
I wasn't. I was. It was in the middle of
of like a you know, hitting session or whatever. It
wasn't just I didn't just put them on just serve. Okay,
that's not fair, all right, Weddy, I am. I'm translucent
on that video.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Not the two best uh tennis players. We basically of
their generation have now weighed in. Also, Laura Travis out
on the Road, who has initially made the hundred mile
an hour serve bet, has said, I haven't heard this.
She sent in a talkback to producer Ali Uh and so, uh,
get get get ready. This is z Z from Laura

(40:55):
my wife.

Speaker 12 (40:56):
Fuck, it's Lara. The speed gun has to read a
hundred or high. Your bet was that you could crush
the ball on a serve one hundred or higher. Ninety
eight is not one hundred. The bet isn't that you
can get it close to one hundred, it's that you
can hit it one hundred.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Wow.

Speaker 12 (41:11):
You also said that the speed gun has an air
rate of a plus or minus three miles per hour,
So if you hit it ninety eight, that means it
actually could have only been ninety five. If you hit
it one hundred, the speed gun reads one hundred. We're
going to give it to you, but it has to
read one hundred or higher without you faulting through your
feet or on the other side of the net in
the serve box. And also, even though I'm a doubter,

(41:33):
I know I'm actually rooting for you because so many
people are rooting against you and doubting you that if
you hit this serve one hundred or higher, you're going
to be like the Rocky of amateur tennis serves. And
I think, if you make it happen, you should have
a gold medal celebration on air, play the Rocky music
and just live it up.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Turn all life. I appreciate into believers. I appreciate that
I am the rooty, I am the rudiger of reck tennis,
serving by the people who are aweso. I'm getting those
people eveling me like I played D one tennis and
I could serve one hundred and five or one hundred
and ten, and I'm like, yeah, because you play D
one tennis. I'm just a guy who likes to play
tennis on the weekends. I don't even play tennis in college.

(42:14):
Guy who feels compelled to tell you that he's amazing
at something that he should be really good at is
always like and I'm skeptical because I don't see, you know,
like the greatest hedge fund manager of all time doesn't
hop in Warren Buffett's mentions and be like, well, in
two thousand and eight, I had a forty two percent return, right, Like,

(42:35):
I do think it's very funny that people who are
elite at something decide that they need to let you
know that they're elite at something. Well, this is why
I like these guys. They don't have a sense of
humor about it. Like they routinely serve and if you
want to know this is all true, you can check this.
At that level of the pros, their first serves are
one hundred and twenty plus usually one hundred and twenty

(42:56):
five plus is an average, and they can get up
into the one thirties pretty pretty easily, right, And that's
every single serve, every single switch spin too. It's not
even just like a straight like they're yeah, like annihilating
the ball. Your your humble radio server and is saying
with like fifty balls, and I'm gonna try with fifty balls,

(43:17):
can I get over one hundred one time? Okay?

Speaker 6 (43:20):
Which I'm saying is not easy.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
I mean, like, if you're not a college player, that's
actually like a college level player, that's not easy to do.
People who don't play tennis probably think they can do it.
Zero chance zero that's one hundred percent true. I also
think I'm wondering you know, so I trained for the
NFL Combine to write a book about the NFL Combine.

(43:42):
You did, oh.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Yeah, so, and so you can self assess. But you
can't run more than like two forties without your speed
going down. That's why they do it at the NFL
Combine twice because most people you can't. It's not like
you're gonna get better on your third I don't know
the answer on I don't know how many times you
could serve in a row where you start to just

(44:05):
go down because your body's getting physically tired right your shoulders,
like because I'm in I mean, this is more than
anyone ever thought they hear about tennis on the show.
But for for for fun, everybody, this is now we
have like the biggest names in the tennis world weighing
in on the Claron Buck Show tennis feud. But yeah,
I'm somebody who's gonna rely much more on muscle than technique.

(44:25):
I mean this also might surprise some of the people,
but like the women on the Pro Tour, I can
lift a lot more weight than they can. They just
have one hundred times better technique and weight transfer and
elasticity in their you know, in their movement than I do.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
So that's why they can routinely do it a hundred.
So it's not it's a little bit like golf. It's not.
If you watch Happy Gilmore you think, oh, like I
can just hit a slap shot, like I've hit golf
balls a couple of times. I'm absolutely horrible, So I
know I can't do that at all. You can swing
as hard as you want, like you can get somebody
who can bench press five hundred pounds, can't hit a
golf ball. It's a it's a skill thing, not a

(45:02):
muscle thing. And so this is why I really have
to work on the technique more than anything else to
actually get it to the level. Because you'll see text
there are literal women who are five There are women
who are Laris size on the pro tour who can
hit a you know, one hundred and ten mile an
hour serve like pretty regularly, and they have like tiny
little arms and they weigh one hundred and ten pounds, but.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
They have perfect body mechanics, perfect techniqlo. By the way,
we're going to head up to Alaska at the bottom
of this hour. I'm sure the talkbacks are going to
be extraordinary On this. We'll play some of those as
we continue. And the NFL is back. So I saw
our boy Ryan Gerdusky mocking you on Twitter. You get
even taking some bodybolt blows here because Taylor Swift and

(45:44):
Travis Kelcey were talking and Ryan Gurdusky said, this is
like listening to Buck talk about sports with Clay, putting
you in the Taylor Swift role there, And I actually I.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Thought that this is only this is only fair in
college football, which I had never seen watched until I
was partner partnered here with Clay. I know the other
sports ball very well. Okay, I know the sports ball.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
It's just a shot, but some of you do, in
fact know the football. And the football is back. NFL
preseason starting off this weekend. You can get hooked up
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Speaker 2 (47:06):
Podcasts, Clay, have you heard of the Rio Reset? Sounds
like a trendy new workout buck, It does, but it's
actually a big summit going on in Brazil. The formal
name is BRICKS, which stands for Brazil, Russia, India, China
and South Africa. But they've just added five new members.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
Smart move to stick with Bricks. We know what happens
when acronyms don't end. They confuse everyone.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Well, that's an understatement. Bricks is a group of emerging
economies hoping to increase their sway in the global financial order.

Speaker 6 (47:33):
Now that sounds like the plot line of a movie.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
I'm listening Philip Patrick is our Bruce Wayne. He's a
precious metal specialist and a spokesman for the Birch Gold Group.
He's on the ground in Rio getting the whole lowdown
on what's going on there.

Speaker 6 (47:47):
Can he give us some inside intel.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Absolutely, He's been there since day one. In fact, a
major theme at the summit is how bricks nations aim
to reduce reliance on the US dollar in global trade.

Speaker 6 (47:58):
Yikes, that doesn't sound good. We got to get Philip
on the line.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Stat already did and he left the Clay and Buck
audience this message.

Speaker 14 (48:05):
The world is moving on from the dollar quietly but steadily.
These nations are making real progress towards reshaping global trade,
and the US dollar is no longer the centerpiece. That
shift doesn't happen overnight, but make no mistake, it's already begun.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
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(48:45):
informed decision. One more time, text my name Buck to
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Speaker 1 (48:52):
Welcome again, Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We head up
to Alaska now to talk with the Governor of Alowska,
Mike Dunlevy, on the eve of I would imagine one
of the biggest events to ever happen in Alaska, certainly
in the modern era, to have the President of the
United States and the President of Russia meeting for an

(49:16):
incredibly potentially a significant and impactful summit on the future
of Ukraine, Russia and the war there. We bring in
now the Governor of Alaska, Mike Dunlevy. Is that a
fair characterization that as these things go, I would imagine
the amount of preparation, the amount of security, and the
amount of potential historical significance at play here is really unprecedented,

(49:40):
not just for Alaska, but frankly for almost every state.

Speaker 10 (49:45):
No.

Speaker 5 (49:45):
I agree, it's incredible, it's exciting. We're glad to be
hosting it here in Alaska. Makes sense given our proximity
to Russia. We're only about two and a half miles
between two islands, one controlled by the US Alaska and
one controlled by Russia, but fifty miles between the mainland. No,
we're excited, and it's not the first time President Trump's
been up here. He's been up here many times. He

(50:06):
refuels here at the same base. They're going to have
the sum of that on his way to Asia, and
we've had the opportunity to get on board. Air Force
want to have meetings with him. But President Trump is
really looking out for Alaska, obviously, really looking out for
the country, and in this case, we're hoping for the
best that at least this will start some serious talks
on getting this war in Ukraine results sooner than later.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Governor, if you can give us a sense of this,
you know, there's I think more geostrategic importance, and particularly
on the national security side. We think of Alaska and
energy for sure a lot, but on the national security side,
given its proximity to Russia. As we all know the
line from Saturday Night Live can see Russia from my house.
Not quite true, but very close in terms of the

(50:52):
actual distance between Alaska and Russia. What are some of
the national security implications and also your state it has
substantial military resources.

Speaker 5 (51:03):
Yeah, we're the most strategic state in the country by far.
We are obviously an Arctic state, that's what makes American
an Arctic country, but we're also a North Pacific sovereign,
in a Western Pacific sovereign. And they give you some perspective.
We are so far west. I know, we think of
Hawai being west, but we are so far west that
we're one thousand miles closer to Australia than California is.

(51:26):
So we are by ship, we're eight hours to Tokyo
by from Moscow. By plane, we're two hours. We're two
hours closer to Moscow than Washington, DC is going that direction.
So we live in a neighborhood that's got some interesting neighbors, Russia, China,
North Korea. We as you mentioned, we have robust military

(51:48):
resources up here. We have the largest coast guard presence
in the country here, we have missile intercepts here, we
have bases with F thirty five, F twenty two's rapid
deployment forces with our army, army assets up here, and
so you know, a lot of people also forget that
Alaska was actually invaded during World War Two the Lutian
Islands by the Japanese and it took a joint Canadian

(52:09):
American tATu Island, right, yeah, we call it at Too Yeah,
at Too yeah, And so very strategic location for the
art the very low strategic location for the Pacific. So yeah,
we we we take great pride in that and probably
have more retired military individuals per capita than the other
state in the country.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
Uh, can you tell us anything about the location, what
it will look like, what the process will be. And
the reason I bring it up is, Uh, obviously there's
going to be immense media attention. I mean, the number
of media that are traveling to Alaska. I'm sure we'll
set an all time record for people that have been
in Alaska frankly covering anything for one particular time. Unless

(52:52):
there's some major historic event that I can't think of,
uh that that that this will look like. Will this
be on the base I think you mentioned, Will it
be in some sort of conference room? I mean, I imagine.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
This is a little bit like a debate in that
both sides sort of hash out all the details before
the respective presidents show up there.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
What should we expect in terms of the actual process
of the meeting and what that's like.

Speaker 5 (53:20):
Well, it's definitely on the base, and the base is
a large base, so there's there's many buildings there that
would be conducive to these conversations, not just between the
President Trump and President Putin, but they're associates and aids
that are coming up with them. So the base is
well positioned from a security perspective but also a privacy
perspective and the ability for these two individuals to have

(53:43):
a discussion. It's my anticipation, and this is based upon
what President Trump has talked about the new tier recently,
that it's really a it's going to set the stage
for further discussions, and depending on how it goes, how
well it goes, who knows, they may extend it and
stay here. They may decide to schedule a follow up

(54:05):
summit pretty quick. You know, there's always rumors floating around
that President Zelensky could be invited here if things are
going well. So we know we're playing it by ear.
I think the President is going to do is best
to look Putin in the eye and really figure out
if the individual is serious about peace and to what degree,
and so, like the rest of the world. We are
eagerly anticipating what the outcome is going to be in

(54:27):
this summit, but we're glad to host it and it's
an honor to have President Trump up here again.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
Well, we were used to seeing the governor. The security
of a president, especially this president, given what he's been
through in recent years, as we all know, substantial Secret
Service presidence, a lot of coordination with state, local, federal
law enforcement. All hands on deck for our president. Obviously
on US soil are people will be responsible as well

(54:51):
for the safety of the Russian premiere. I'm just wondering
how many are there. Are there a ton of Russians
who show up to as part of his security detail,
or or is this largely he trusts in, you know,
the American people and the American leader here, Donald Trump,
that it's safe as can be for Putin to just
show up in Alaska and we've you know, we've we've
got him protected for this meeting.

Speaker 5 (55:13):
Yeah, it's a combination. I mean, there's no doubt that
our security apparatus is second to none, and I'm sure
that the President Putin is going to bring his entourage,
including security with him as well. I have no doubt
they've been coordinating every day since this announcement, maybe even
before the announcement was made, on the security measures that
are going to be taken here in Alaska, but having

(55:34):
this on a secure base, and again, Alaska is isolated,
as you know, we're at the top of the world,
so a small population, it is tough to get here
for folks, especially in the we're having it's our tourist season,
so it's hard, hard to get lodging and hard to
get on a plane. But nonetheless, I think it's an
ideal spot geopolitically in terms of location, security wise, and

(55:55):
having it on the base I think is a wise idea.
So I'm hoping for success summit. I am hoping once
again that what comes out of this is going to
be a lasting just piece for the people of Ukraine.
And I think this is going to be another example
where President Trump brings two sides together, which he seems
to be doing quite often throughout the world, to end
these wars. Because we all know, I mean, wars are

(56:18):
bad period, and it's bad for the economy, it's bad
for international relations, and so we're all hopeful.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
And you know, there's the possibility that this could be
referred to. If this is very successful, right, this could
be the kind of summit that people talk about for
many years to come. It could be in the history books.
You know. It's something that I think could be viewed
really as a turning point. So with all of that,
and now that we've established the national security implications and

(56:46):
and everything else, just Folcus again in Alaska for a second.
Mister Clay Travis has not yet been and we were
just discussing fishing, and you were wonderful. I have been
up there. I am unlike Tennis. I have no illusions
of grandeur. I'm not a good fisherman. How long would
it take you, Governor or or I don't know. If
I'm assuming you can do one, I don't know to

(57:06):
get Clay semi decent at fly fishing if he were
to come up and visit next summer.

Speaker 5 (57:12):
Well, I'm I don't know the depth of Play's current
skills when it comes to fly Let's.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
Let's assume zero, Governor, let's assume zero for zoom limited.

Speaker 5 (57:21):
Okay, it might take a little bit of work, but
we're willing to take him under our wing. Taking them, uh,
you know, we'll take them to Uh. We might want
to start up taking him over to like bass Pro
shop and he could fish in the tanks there to
get you know, get I.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Like my odds. I like my odds at catching stuff
at a best pro shop.

Speaker 5 (57:38):
You even the worst of fishermen can catch fish up here,
Sam and Hallib but you name it so uh Clay, Uh,
you need to come up here. If you're an outdoors
type of guy, you're gonna be I think as dound
that at not just the beauty, but the opportunity is
up here as well.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
I can't wait to visit. I'm going to bring my
whole family up. One more question for you, Governor. Notwithstanding
the fact that I likely would struggle immensely on the
floor eye fishing, on a more serious front, you actually
mentioned that Zolensky, who knows you know, Trump, has said, hey,
we'd like to have tripartite talks potentially if these things
go well, does the governor get a phone call and

(58:13):
they just tell you, hey, so Zolensky's also coming and
maybe we're going to need some extra food and beds.
What is the protocol for something like that. I'm sure
there's not a lot of experience in any state.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
But do you just look.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
Down and they're like, oh, man, you know, Zolensky's on
his way in too, Like how does that process work?

Speaker 5 (58:33):
Well, you know, that's an interesting question, right because there's
really not a template for this. But going back to
when President Trump announced that he was coming up here,
we immediately were engaged with the White House. There are
advanced teams and others associated with the White House on
not just security measures, but venues et cetera, et cetera.
So they have a pretty good handle now. And I

(58:53):
ascertained what the assets are up here for a potential
arrival of President Zelensky. I would say, hey, this though
that if President Silinsky does come here, that means that
there was some significant movement in a direction that could
be conducive to a just piece. And so that's one
of the things to watch for if he does. If
he does come up, I mean, the other thing to
watch for. Who knows, the meeting might be over in

(59:15):
an hour, and that also is telling. So we're all,
you know, we're all waiting to see what's going to happen.
We hope for nothing but the best, But if President
Silinsky does end up coming, we would also do everything
we can to provide for him as well as the
you know, the White House people will also make sure
that that trip is safe and secure and productive.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Well, we appreciate the time, Governor Mike Dunlevy. We also
want to say thank you, by the way, Governor, I'm
sure you know these stations well, news Radio six point
fifty in Anchorage, news Radio nine seventy and Fairbanks and
News Radio ninety seven point five and catch a can.
We know we have a big audience of Alaskan listeners
up there. I look forward to seeing some of you

(59:56):
in person at some point. And good luck with the
big summit going on tomorrow, Governor, we know how busy
you are.

Speaker 5 (01:00:02):
Absolutely thanks guys for having me on.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
For sure.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
That's Governor Mike Dunlevy of Alaska and tomorrow. Butck's going
to be a really interesting show because who knows how
this is going to go. And I think we'll probably
be going off the air about time that they're coming
for that press conference, joint press conference that is scheduled,
So a lot of news coming tomorrow that is going

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