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Personal & Family Reflections
- Opening segment emphasizes gratitude during Thanksgiving, family bonding, and playing games like poker and dominoes.
- Anecdotes about family traditions and childhood experiences.
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Political Commentary
- Muslim Brotherhood Designation:
- Discussion on Donald Trump’s executive order to designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization.
- Ted Cruz explains his decade-long effort to push similar legislation and the challenges faced in Congress.
- Mentions international context: countries like Egypt, Bahrain, UAE, and others have already banned the group.
- Highlights implications for U.S. national security.
- Muslim Brotherhood Designation:
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Media Criticism
- Critique of a New York Times article portraying an undocumented immigrant who stole an American’s identity as a victim.
- The hosts argue this framing ignores the harm to U.S. citizens and call it propaganda.
- Statistics cited: about 1 million undocumented workers using stolen Social Security numbers.
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Cultural & Ideological Issues
- Discussion of a University of Minnesota webpage describing “whiteness” as a pandemic.
- Hosts criticize DEI (Diversity, Equity, Inclusion) initiatives and anti-racism frameworks as Marxist and anti-family.
- Broader argument that such ideologies undermine American values and constitutional principles.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome in his verdic with center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson
with you, and I hope your Thanksgiving week has been
incredible with your family, save travels out there. Center, We've
got actually a lot to talk about. Usually it's a
slow week during the holidays, not so much this week
at all.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Well, there's a lot going on, but I want to
start by just saying this week of Thanksgiving, I hope
you took a minute to just hug your family. Hug
your wife, Hug your husband, Hug your kids. Let your
kids know why you love them, what they mean to you.
If your mom and dad are still with you, tell
them my parents, you know my mom is turning just
(00:36):
turned ninety one, my dad is eighty six. Like the
moments with family these holidays are so important, love them
and give thanks like we have so much to give
thanks for. We have so much to give, thanks for
being Americans. For those of us who are blessed to
be Texans, we have even more to give thanks for.
(00:56):
We have thanks for our liberty. We have thanks for
we're American free enterprise. We have thanks for the Declaration
of Independence and the Constitution are fundamental liberties, and so
I hope in this time. Look, it's so easy. Life
goes so fast, it goes so crazy, you're going to
million miles an hour. Everything distracts you. I hope during
this week you take a minute to sit down and
(01:18):
play a game with your kids. You take a minute.
You know, my daughters have started liking to play poker.
I love to play poker, and just sitting down, like
playing poker, playing Monopoly, playing back them and playing chess,
playing Uno, playing charades, like like, those moments are priceless.
(01:39):
And so yes, there's a lot going on. We're going
to talk about all of that, but but I really
do God has blessed this nation incredibly. And if you
are fortunate enough to be healthy, if you are fortunate
enough to like you and I are men to be
dads like that, being a dad wanted privilege. What incredible
(02:01):
Like watching your kids grow up, watching your kids express strong,
passionate views. Just just take this week, this week and
Christmas week, or I think the two most important weeks
to just love on your kids. And so that's something
I just want to encourage you. You're listening to a podcast.
That's that's great, that that's be engaged. But don't take
(02:22):
the time away from your family and your kids, especially
this week.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Amen to that.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
It couldn't agree with you more as we And by
the way, with poker, who's better? I got to ask,
is it you? Or are they taking your money yet?
I just I got to know that.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
So I got to say, Caroline, my oldest daughter has
become a pretty good little poker player, and she's got
her boyfriend Bruce that they like playing poker with me.
We were this summer. We went to Lake Powell in
Nevada and Utah, and Lake Powell is gorgeous. It's basically
it's basically the Grand Canyon filled up halfway with water.
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And my father in law has a house boat. He's
had a houseboat for thirty years. And you get out
in the houseboat and you tow a water ski boat,
you tow a jet ski and you just get out
there and spend a week and there's no phone, there's
no internet. It's disconnected from the world. And you know,
you get out there, you water ski, you jet ski,
you swim, you jump off the top of the house boat.
(03:20):
By the way, my brother in law, you want to
talk about a bad ass trick. My brother in law
has a trick where he stands at the top of
the houseboat. He holds the rope from the water ski
and his wife gets in the water ski boat and
she punches it. He jumps off the second story of
the houseboat. He lands on his rear end, he goes underwater,
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goes about six or eight feet underwater, and he pops
up in barefoots. It is a crazy ass trick.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
That's so cool.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
And I got to say, like, like, we did that
this summer, spend a week and that's where where Caroline
and Bruce said, Hey, Dad, you really like to play poker?
Can you teach us to play? And so we sat
there a bunch of like bottle caps and used bottle
caps as chips. We didn't play for money, but we
played every night. And it was every night from like
(04:08):
ten pm to one in the morning. We played poker.
And that that was you know, when I was a kid,
when I was a little kid, my grandmother, when I
was six, seven, eight years old, she taught me to
play poker, and she was a She was an incredible
card player. She played bridge every week for she lived
into her eighties. She probably played seventy years worth a bridge,
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but she taught me to play poker. She had a
tin of buttons and we would use the buttons as chips.
And you know, she had some like costume jewelry that
were like fake diamonds, so I would, you know, eight
years old, I'd say one million dollars and I'd throw
out like a diamond chip. And for like two years,
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I won every time. She'd baby sit me when my
parents went out, and like if they wanted to have
a date night or something, that dropped me off at
at granny's house and we'd sit there and play poker.
And and after a couple of years of doing it
and I'd won over and over again, I came to her.
I said, Granny, let's play for real money. And I
had five dollars and ben. At the time, my allowance
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was fifty cents a week, so five dollars was ten
weeks allowance. It was a ton of money. And she said, sure,
absolutely happy to So we sat down played poker. She
cleaned me out.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
YEA, That's an important lesson in life is not winning money,
but losing money, because it keeps you in check.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I think forever.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Oh, when my parents picked me up, I was there crying,
and my Irish grandmother was laughing as she like sent
me home and said, well, Sonny, you want to play
for money, let me know next time you want to
do it.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
That's such and she didn't give it back, which is
like the reason why you earned your life.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Oh no, no, no, I never got that five bucks back.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
That's so good. I love it, so you know, for
my I got twin boys. Georgie is my game player.
He's obsessed. All Thanksgiving break, we've been playing poker. He
loves it and he grits because we have poker chips.
We don't play for money to hold him. Playing takes
hold him, yeah, and he loves it. He's six years old,
but he's really good with numbers. He loves playing blackjack
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the same thing. We use chips and you know, whoever
win just has you know, the bragging rights at the table.
We all start with the same amount. But at six
years old he started whooping. My dad and my sister's
boyfriend lost to him this morning, which really made me
laugh because he's so proud of himself at six, Like
I get this game, Like this is so fun, like
you said, spending time with the fam over the holidays
playing card games. Oh no, whatever it is, do it
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with your kids, because that's those are the memories you remember.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
For us your life.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
And by the way, I got to say, Cubans, what
we do on holidays is we played dominoes, and Cuban's
playing dominoes number one, so we don't play double six dominoes.
Double six dominoes are common in Mexico much of the Caribbean,
but Cubans played double nine dominoes and double nine dominoes
a lot more complicated because you got a lot more
numbers to think through. And my grandfather, oh my abuelo,
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he could play dominos. In fact, we still have these
like wooden domino trays that he made in this woodshop
that we play with to this day. And he was
he was such a good domino player that after like
four rounds he could tell you what dominoes every person around.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
The table had. Like it was freaking See, I don't
have that. Do you have that type of memory? I
just don't.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I have some of it, but not at the So
when it comes to poker, one of my best friends
in the world is actually an amateur professional poker player,
so he has played in multiple world series of Pokers,
and I played with him a ton, and it's interesting.
When he and I play, he gets pissed because he's very,
(07:45):
very good at the math. He knows the math of
every hand here or the outs, here's the percentages. I'm
okay at the math. I'm I don't have the percentages
down like it's thirty seven percent. I have. This percentage
is notionally right. I have a general I have a
pretty good scent to the math, but it's not exact.
What I play is I read the other players. So
(08:05):
this buddy of mine who's was a grooms in my wedding,
one of my closest friends. We'll play and we've probably
played one hundred poker games together, and my guess is
I want about half and he's won about half. And
it drives him crazy because I'll make plays and he's like,
what the hell are you doing. You can't do that.
The math didn't make sense. And I'll look at him
and say, Adam, I did it because you didn't want
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me to. Because when I'm playing poker, the biggest thing
I'm doing is I'm looking in the eyes of the
other people. I'm trying to figure out what do you want?
And I'm going to do the opposite of what you want,
And so it's a Look, what's fun about poker is
you have the math and skill of it, but you
also have the people reading. And that's a blast. And
I gotta say, I'm really proud because my daughter, Caroline,
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she's good at both of that. I mean, she's still
a new poker player, but she's good at reading people.
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Donald Trump has begun the process centator of designating the
Muslim Brotherhood is a terrorist organization. This is something that
you've been advocating for talking about. We've talked about on
the show for quite some time. They've also been doing
this in Texas, and now we're seeing it become part
two nationwide.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Your reaction, So, look, this is massively important. President Trump
announced this week that he's going to designate the Muslim
Brotherhood as a terrorist organization. I have literally been fighting
for this to happen for ten years. It has been
five different Congresses that I've introduced legislation directing the federal
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government to designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization.
We came really really close in the first Trump administration.
I was pushing this. I had legislation, I was fighting
for it. And the reason we fell just short. And
the reason we fell just short is the deep state
in the State Department, they did not want to designate
the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization. And the old
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version of the legislation I filed was a top down.
So what it did is it directed the State Department
and the Administration to designate the Global Muslim Brotherhood, the
umbrella organization, as a terrorist organization. And what happened was
the deep state bureaucrats they argued, well, it is not
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definitively proven that every single Muslim Brotherhood affiliate across the
globe is a terrorist organization. Some of them clearly are,
but it's not proven that all of them are. And
that argument, at the end of the day, stopped Trump
one from doing this. So Trump two starts and I
leaned in again and I said, all right, we're going
(10:38):
to get this done, and I redrafted the legislation and
pick a totally different approach. Instead of being top down,
I went bottom up and I said, look, the State
Department is directed to designate the individual Muslim Brotherhood affiliates
that are terrorist organizations designate them as such. So, for example,
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HAMAS is the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine. There is zero
dispute that Hamas is a terrorist organization. And so my
legislation said, designate the individual affiliates, whichever one's that there's
clear and definitive proof they're terrorist organizations, and then designate
the Global Muslim Brotherhood for material support for those terrorist organizations,
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because the Global organization funds every one of their affiliates.
And so it was a fundamental shift. And at the
end of the day, I think it's unlikely Congress will
pass my legislation because to pass it, I need sixty
Democrats and I need sixty Senators. I need at least
seven Democrats, and I think it's unlikely we'll get seven Democrats.
(11:47):
I've got one, so the legislation and the Senators cruized Fetterman.
So John Fetterman has joined me. But to get to
seven it is not easy. But I've been fighting this
fight because I want to build the momentum for the
President to do what he did this week. But he
did this week is exactly what my legislation says, which
is he directed the State Department to designate the individual
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affiliates the lower organizations that are clearly terrorist organizations. And
I'll tell you Seb Gorka is that the head of
counter terrorism the National Security Council. Sev is an old friend.
I have met with Seb and talked at length about
making this happen. And then just three weeks ago, I
was at the White House. I was with President Trump.
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It was right after he had designated Nigeria as a
country a particular concern because Boko Haram and radical Islamic
terrorists were murdering Christians. More than fifty thousand Christians have
been murdered Nigeria. And I've been fighting to designate Nigeria
for a long time. And so I told the presidents
right after he did that, I said, I said, thank you,
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thank you, thank you, thank you for designating Nigeria. Really
big deal, enormously important. And he responded me, he said, great,
ted happy to do it. He said, is there anyone
else we should designate? What else should we do? And
I said the Brotherhood, We should designate the Muslim Brotherhood.
He said to me three weeks ago, I'm happy to
do it. We'll get it done this week. He got
it done. It is a big, big, big deal. This
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is literally ten years of hard work, and it will
make America safer because the Muslim Brotherhood is funding terrorists
that want to murder you and want to murder me.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, it is not, just as you mentioned, a big deal.
It's a national security issue. And there's also been a
very weird quietness online on this. There are some members
of the Democratic Party that are acting is that the
Muslim Brotherhood really shouldn't be designate as a terrorist organization.
It might be one of the weirdest things I've ever
seen on social media happen, and yet here we are
(13:44):
witnessing it in real time. Is They're like, well, hold
on a second, why would we really need to do this.
I'm like, what world are you living in? Are you
kidding me?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Well, and many of our allies in the Middle East
already understand the threat. So, for example, the Global Muslim
Brotherhood is outlawed as a terrorist group by Bahrain, by Egypt,
by Jordan, by Saudi Arabia, and by the UAE. I've
spoke with the governments of those countries. They really want
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the United States to do what President Trump did this week,
which is designate the Muslim Brotherhood. Austria has also banned
the group. Germany is considering legislation to do the same.
French intelligence has described the Muslim Brotherhood as quote a
threat to national cohesion, and the British officials say the
Muslim Brotherhood is subject to surveillance under Britain's anti extremism laws.
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So there is a growing movement to recognize that the
Muslim Brotherhood is funding, is promoting terrorism, Terrorism that is
trying to kill Americans, terrorism that's trying to kill Europeans,
terrorism that is trying to kill Israelis. And designating a
group as a terrorist organization unleashes a host of tools,
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including sanctions and wrecked military action that we can take
against them. And this is as I said, it has
been ten years. I've been fighting for this to happen.
I want to credit President Trump here. Here's what the
Wall Street Journal Editorial Board wrote about it. Wall Street
Journal Editorial Board said, quote, nearly a quarter century, after
nine to eleven, the US has taken aim at a
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leading incubator of Islamic terrorism, the Muslim Brotherhood. Previous attempts
to prescribe the group, including by the first Trump administration,
were stymied by the Brotherhood's loose structure. On Monday, President
Trump signed an executive order to begin the process of
designating the Brotherhood branches as terrorist organizations. Branches in Egypt, Jordan,
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and Lebanon are singled out for a thirty day review,
though the order isn't limitated to them. This is a
big deal. America is safer. Thank you, President Trump.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
All Right, So there's another thing.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
This week's center and it really rarely to headlines like
actually genuinely ticked me off, cynical guy, But there was
one this week with the New York Times.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
And then I'm gonna I'm gonna call bs on that.
I'm gonna call on that.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
You think the New York Times this week?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah, I know you too well. I has there been
a day in the past year when there was not
a headline that pissed you off?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yes, Eastern Christmas, Thanksgiving, Probably because I'm not reading the
news then.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
So the days you don't read the headlines, I'm just
saying they kissed you off every day. But I will
admit this was particularly infuriating.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Very okay, so you'll back on my team on this one.
I like this.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
So there's this story, then you're always on my team.
You're you're a You're a constructive criticism teammate. That's how
I would describe you. So the New York Times comes
out with this headline, this story that's actually supposed to
make you, as an American citizen, feel sorry for an
undocumented worker.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
They call it that.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I call it an illegal immigrant that stole an American's identity.
And they say, well, there's two men that paid a price.
And they also refer to the identity as a individual,
like one, like two become one, like they're married. It
is the most insane propaganda, even from the New York
Times standard.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Well, all across the country, there are thousands of people
who have had their identity stolen by illegal immigrants, and
it is causing real pain. It's causing real chaos. Ironically,
the New York Times and the Myths that are propaganda
piece accidentally reported the news and talked about the devastating consequences. Now,
of course, what they said is that if an illegal
immigrant steals your identity, the illegal alien is a victim
(17:39):
and not just you. So let's just read the beginning
of this article, because it's one that will make your
head explode the title. Two men, one identity. They both
paid the price. Thousands of undocumented workers rely on fraudulent
Social Security numbers. One of them belong to Dan Clover.
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Dan Clover saw the police lights flashing in his rearview
mirror late last year and eased his car onto the shoulder,
thinking there had been some kind of mistake. He had
spent four decades in rural Minnesota without ever getting into trouble.
He prided himself on a life built around dependability and routine,
working at the same factory where his father once did,
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and spending his weekends coaching baseball and teaching Sunday school.
He had never fired a gun, or smoked a cigarette,
or missed a payment, or had been arrested. By the way,
I'm not sure I believe that he's never fired a gun.
The guys in rural Minnesota. That sounds like a New
York Times BS statement, But leave that as his side.
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Quote license and registration, please, the officer said. Clover forty two,
handed them over and waited while the officer went back
to his patrol call. He listened to the church bells
that rang every hour and watched the sunlight reflect off
the grain silos in downtown Olivia, where he knew most
of the two twenty four hundred residents, including the officers.
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Walking back to his car, it's everything all right, Clover asked.
It's strange, but it looks like your license has been suspended.
You've got another driver's license with some issues down in Missouri.
What Clover said, I've barely ever been to Missouri. How
is that possible. The officer had no answers, but Clover
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feared he might know what was happening. Over the years,
there had been signs that something wasn't right, stray letters
about wages earned in unfamiliar towns, and collection notices for
debt that wasn't his. Clover had tried to untangle the
mess several times by hiring tax specialists and driving to
government offices across the state, only to run into the
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same bureaucratic dead ends. But now the problem was bigger
than unpaid taxes. Somebody was impersonating him, moving through the
world as Dan Clover, building a life in his name
with a government issued ID. His The problem was one
version of a problem that's been spreading across the country
for years. The government estimates that as many as one
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million undocumented workers are using fraudulent or stolen social security numbers.
Let me repeat that, The government estimates that as many
as one million undocumented workers are using fra stolen social
security numbers a survival tactic. Of course, it's fiber tactic.
They're just stealing because they want to survive, used to
pass background checks and get jobs. The numbers are skimmed
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from data breach, sold in the black market online for
as little as one hundred and fifty dollars, or handed
out in border towns by human smugglers. Many numbers connect
back to US citizen children, dead people, or Porto Ricans,
whose numbers circulate easily across the mainland, but thousands of
others belong to people like Clover, Americans whose names and
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identities are no longer theirs alone. The police officer sent
Clover home with a warning, and he sifted through filecap
vents with his wife Christie, searching for clues about the
other Dan Clover. His solid security card was safely locked away,
alongside birth certificates for their three children. He'd never been
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robbed or even lost his wallet, but there was his
number printed on a W two from a leather factory
in a town he never visited. He traced fifteen years
of records and found more tax documents listing unfamiliar jobs
at a cement plant in Kansas, a paper mill in Tennessee,
a construction company in Ohio, a seal a cereal factory
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in Nebraska, and a dog food plant in Missouri. How
do you think you've been getting between all these places,
Christie asked. It's eerie. It's like I've lost all control
over who I am, Clover said. Some years the other
Dan Clover had earned more than his own salary at
a local sugar beet factory, which pushed the total income
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under a solid security number into a higher tax bracket.
As the death started to mount, twice he'd contacted law
enforcement and filed into DNIY theft report with the federal government.
He waited for relief while the IRS docked his annual
tax returns and garnished a few of his paychecks, costing
him thousands. Finally, a few months before their wedding in
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twenty twelve, Christie decided to pay off the balance, emptying
her savings and sending a check for six thousand dollars
their relief lasted until the next tax season, when a
new bill arrived, this one for twenty two thousand dollars.
They spent the next decade living with the consequences annual
tax audits, budgets that never added up, whispered arguments. After
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the kids went to bed, Clover kept calling government numbers
and waiting on hold until he eventually resigned himself to
a payment plan. He agreed to send the irs one
hundred and fifty dollars each month, which he'd done more
than thirty five times. I can't keep obsessing over this
and getting nowhere, he told Christie. I need to think
about something else that is going on. And yet The
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New York Times at the same time described the person
who stolen's identity. He had lived under enough names and
numbers in the United States that they started to blur together.
Vincent Trochilo, Rainaldo Guera, and then, for more than a decade,
Daniel Clover, the name he'd used until he could barely
remember what it felt like to exist as himself. Romeo
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Perez Bravo forty two a Guatemalan immigrant who has spent
most of his adult life working under borrowed identities, borrowed
being the fake name for stolen. By the start of
twenty twenty five, he was preparing for another graveyard shift
in Saint Joseph, Bassouri, lacing his work boots in the
darkness and his drafty rental while his wife and five
children slept, He packed their school lunches. The next day,
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drove to the dog food factory and gathered with his
coworkers to say their nightly prayer. Then he swiped his
badge to again another twelve hour shift as Daniel Clover,
sinking deeper into an identity that wasn't really his own. Daniel,
his boss always shouted taking attendance before they went to
their lines. Here, he said. Perez Bravo had come to
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the United States for the first time at sixteen to
help earn money for his family. Traveling alone to join
his father in Marshall, Minnesota, he hiked out of the
Guatemalan Highlands, rode atop a freight train for three weeks
across Mexico, nearly drowned in the Rio Grande, and took
a greyhound to Middle America, where life somehow felt harder.
He slept on a couch at his father's apartment and
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enrolled in high school, despite speaking almost no English. Then
he began to look for a job, but no one
would hire an underage worker without papers. The entire story
goes on to say, this guy who has stolen the
identity of a poor working man in Minnesota, he's the victim,
despite the fact that that Daniel Clover, the real Daniel Clover,
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is paying IRS debts, his credit has been ruined. It
has been a nightmare for him. And yet for the
New York Time, they say it's one identity. This the
poor guy that stole his identity, is really the victim.
It is an infuriating example of propaganda. Let me go
back to the stat that I read more than one
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million illegal immigrants have stolen identities of Americans, and Americans
are hurting all over the country, and the New York
Times is saying, you too should have your identity stolen,
You too should pay the price, You too should pay
IRS bills that you don't know because an illegal immigrant
stole your identity. And by the way, that illegal immigrants
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is the victim, not you.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Center finally, on the show, let's deal with a major problem.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
It's huge.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
A university is now warning of a quote unquote whiteness pandemic.
Not a problem, but a pandemic, a whiteness pandemic. This
coming from the University of Minnesota. I'll let you take
it from there.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Ye got to say, this is going to piss you off.
Are you white? Then apparently you are an evil, noxious
scourge on America. You are a pandemic, You are a virus,
You are a disease, and woke leftists are going to
re educate the whiteness right out of you. Like I
wish I were making this up, Like when I say
these words, you sound like a lunatic. You sound like
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you're wearing like a tinfoil hat, and you believe in
conspiracy theories. But I want to read to you from
a website from the University of Minnesota. By the way,
there is a state website. This is all right. Here's
what the website says, quote, what is the whiteness pandemic?
Racism is an epidemic that can also be considered a
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pandemic given its large cross national proportion and spread. However,
there is another pandemic lurking behind and driving the racist pandemic,
the whiteness pandemic. Whiteness refers to culture not biology. The
century culture of whiteness features color blindness, in other words,
not being a racist. That is, the whiteness pandemic. Passivity,
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and white fragility were all covert expressions of racism common
in the United States. Naming the whiteness pandemic shifts our
gaze from the victims and effects of racism onto the
systems that perpetrate and perpetuate racism, starting with the family system.
In other words, families are racist. If you believe in families,
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if you believe in a mom and dad raising kids,
loving kids. That is, the family system is part of
the whiteness pandemic. At birth, young children growing up in
white families begin to be socialized into the culture of whiteness,
making the family system one of the most powerful systems
involved in systemic racism. That this is open. We hate families,
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is what the University of Minnesota is saying. And okay,
what's the next section? Quote how do we halt and
reverse the whiteness pandemic? If you were born and raised
in the United States, you have grown up in the
whiteness pandemic, and you can play a role in halting
or reversing this pandemic. Especially if you are white, because
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of the power and privilege you hold in this racialized society.
If you were socialized into the culture of whiteness during
your childhood, it is not your fault, but as an adult,
it is now your responsibility to self reflect, to re
educate yourself and act. If you are a white adult,
anti racist action involves an ongoing process of self reflection
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in order to develop a healthy, positive white identity while
encouraging courageous anti racist parenting sash caregiving. What utter and
complete garbage, what racist leftist communist drek And this is
the University of Minnesota. By the way, Look, there are
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like great people in Minnesota, They're great people in every state,
and yet these people are racist radicals. And this is
what they're indoctrinating our children with.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Not only the indoctionnary children, but this is where a
lot of our dollars are tax hours go, which is
the other frustrating part that this is what they're indoctrinating
them with.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Undoubtedly. And by the way, our podcast on Monday, so
we do this podcast three days a week, Monday, Wednesday,
and Friday. Our podcast on Monday talked about what is
the number one funder of Al Shabab, the radical Islamics
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terrorist group. And the answer, terrifyingly enough, is the taxpayers
of the state of Minnesota. So in Minnesota has a
huge Somali community. Somalis have invaded the state of Minnesota.
It's how you elect Ilhan Omar, who actively is anti
American racist, radical embraces and supports radical Islamic terrorists. And
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the Somali community sends billions every year back to Somalia
and millions of that money sent back ends up directly
in the pockets and the coffers of Al Shabab. And
it is the Minnesota state taxpayers. So we detailed this
on Monday. How welfare fraud, fraudulent collection of welfare payments,
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an entire welfare system set up seemingly on the face
of it to encourage fraud, to facilitate fraud, is resulting
in Minnesota taxpayers sending millions of dollars to radical Islamic terrorists.
This is the same ideology like what do you do
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if you happen to be a white kid at the
University of Minnesota. You show up and be told by
the way you're just you know your seventeen eighteen year
old kid. You show up as a freshman, and if
you're white, you're told you're a pandemic, you're a virus.
And the only answer is re educate yourself because who
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you are, who America is. And understand this screed against
quote anti whiteness, is also a screed against America. That
these Marxists hate the United States of America, they hate
the Constitution, they hate our freedoms. And this garbage that
is anti racism, this garbage that is DEI, this garbage
that says we must institutionalize. By the way, the fix
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for the anti for the whiteness pandemic is to discriminate
against anyone who is white, is to institutionalize racism. And
that is grotesque. It is wrong. It is contrary to
the fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution, which protects provides the
equal protection of the law to all people are regardless
of race. It is contrary to the founding notions of
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this country. The Declaration said, we hold these truths to
be self evident, that all men are created equal, not some,
not just white people, not just black people, not anyone.
All men and all women are created equal, that they
are endowed by their creator with certain unvailable rights that
among them are life liberty in the pursuit of happiness.
That's what this country was built on. And these Marxists
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who have taken over our institutions hate that notion, and
this kind of garbage is being spewed to our children
and being used to brainwash our children at a massive rate.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
I tell this all the time to parents when they
ask be careful where you send your kids to college,
because they could be indoctrinated to literally hate this country.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
This is another exam.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
And to hate you exactly, to hate their mom and dad.
But by the way, what I just read the family system.
They are attacking families. They're telling your kids family is evil.
That's what Marxists believe.
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Speaker 3 (33:26):
Ben Ferguson, it's been a pleasure to be with you.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Be safe out there on the roads, whether there's Thanksgiving
holiday weekend, and we'll see you back here real soon
Welcome in his verdic with center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson
with you, and I hope your Thanksgiving week has been
incredible with your family, save travels out there. Center, We've
got actually a lot to talk about. Usually it's a
slow week during the holidays, not so much this week
at all.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Well, there's a lot going on, but I want to
start by just saying this week of Thanksgiving, I hope
you took a minute to just hug your family. Hug
your wife, Hug your husband, Hug your kids. Let your
kids know why you love them, what they mean to you.
If your mom and dad are still with you, tell
them my parents, you know my mom is turning just
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turned ninety one, my dad is eighty six. Like the
moments with family these holidays are so important, love them
and give thanks like we have so much to give
thanks for. We have so much to give, thanks for
being Americans. For those of us who are blessed to
be Texans, we have even more to give thanks for.
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We have thanks for our liberty. We have thanks for
we're American free enterprise. We have thanks for the Declaration
of Independence and the Constitution are fundamental liberties, and so
I hope in this time. Look, it's so easy. Life
goes so fast, it goes so crazy, you're going to
million miles an hour. Everything distracts you. I hope during
this week you take a minute to sit down and
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play a game with your kids. You take a minute.
You know, my daughters have started liking to play poker.
I love to play poker, and just sitting down, like
playing poker, playing Monopoly, playing back them and playing chess,
playing Uno, playing charades, like like, those moments are priceless.
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And so yes, there's a lot going on. We're going
to talk about all of that, but but I really
do God has blessed this nation incredibly. And if you
are fortunate enough to be healthy, if you are fortunate
enough to like you and I are men to be
dads like that, being a dad wanted privilege. What incredible
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Like watching your kids grow up, watching your kids express strong,
passionate views. Just just take this week, this week and
Christmas week, or I think the two most important weeks
to just love on your kids. And so that's something
I just want to encourage you. You're listening to a podcast.
That's that's great, that that's be engaged. But don't take
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the time away from your family and your kids, especially
this week.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Amen to that.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
It couldn't agree with you more as we And by
the way, with poker, who's better? I got to ask,
is it you? Or are they taking your money yet?
I just I got to know that.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
So I got to say, Caroline, my oldest daughter has
become a pretty good little poker player, and she's got
her boyfriend Bruce that they like playing poker with me.
We were this summer. We went to Lake Powell in
Nevada and Utah, and Lake Powell is gorgeous. It's basically
it's basically the Grand Canyon filled up halfway with water.
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And my father in law has a house boat. He's
had a houseboat for thirty years. And you get out
in the houseboat and you tow a water ski boat,
you tow a jet ski and you just get out
there and spend a week and there's no phone, there's
no internet. It's disconnected from the world. And you know,
you get out there, you water ski, you jet ski,
you swim, you jump off the top of the house boat.
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By the way, my brother in law, you want to
talk about a bad ass trick. My brother in law
has a trick where he stands at the top of
the houseboat. He holds the rope from the water ski
and his wife gets in the water ski boat and
she punches it. He jumps off the second story of
the houseboat. He lands on his rear end, he goes underwater,
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goes about six or eight feet underwater, and he pops
up in barefoots. It is a crazy ass trick.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
That's so cool.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
And I got to say, like, like, we did that
this summer, spend a week and that's where where Caroline
and Bruce said, Hey, Dad, you really like to play poker?
Can you teach us to play? And so we sat
there a bunch of like bottle caps and used bottle
caps as chips. We didn't play for money, but we
played every night. And it was every night from like
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ten pm to one in the morning. We played poker.
And that that was you know, when I was a kid,
when I was a little kid, my grandmother, when I
was six, seven, eight years old, she taught me to
play poker, and she was a She was an incredible
card player. She played bridge every week for she lived
into her eighties. She probably played seventy years worth a bridge,
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but she taught me to play poker. She had a
tin of buttons and we would use the buttons as chips.
And you know, she had some like costume jewelry that
were like fake diamonds, so I would, you know, eight
years old, I'd say one million dollars and I'd throw
out like a diamond chip. And for like two years,
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I won every time. She'd baby sit me when my
parents went out, and like if they wanted to have
a date night or something, that dropped me off at
at granny's house and we'd sit there and play poker.
And and after a couple of years of doing it
and I'd won over and over again, I came to her.
I said, Granny, let's play for real money. And I
had five dollars and ben. At the time, my allowance
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was fifty cents a week, so five dollars was ten
weeks allowance. It was a ton of money. And she said, sure,
absolutely happy to So we sat down played poker. She
cleaned me out.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
YEA, That's an important lesson in life is not winning money,
but losing money, because it keeps you in check.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I think forever.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Oh, when my parents picked me up, I was there crying,
and my Irish grandmother was laughing as she like sent
me home and said, well, Sonny, you want to play
for money, let me know next time you want to
do it.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
That's such and she didn't give it back, which is
like the reason why you earned your life.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Oh no, no, no, I never got that five bucks back.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
That's so good. I love it, so you know, for
my I got twin boys. Georgie is my game player.
He's obsessed. All Thanksgiving break, we've been playing poker. He
loves it and he grits because we have poker chips.
We don't play for money to hold him. Playing takes
hold him, yeah, and he loves it. He's six years old,
but he's really good with numbers. He loves playing blackjack
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the same thing. We use chips and you know, whoever
win just has you know, the bragging rights at the table.
We all start with the same amount. But at six
years old he started whooping. My dad and my sister's
boyfriend lost to him this morning, which really made me
laugh because he's so proud of himself at six, Like
I get this game, Like this is so fun, like
you said, spending time with the fam over the holidays
playing card games. Oh no, whatever it is, do it
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with your kids, because that's those are the memories you remember.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
For us your life.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
And by the way, I got to say, Cubans, what
we do on holidays is we played dominoes, and Cuban's
playing dominoes number one, so we don't play double six dominoes.
Double six dominoes are common in Mexico much of the Caribbean,
but Cubans played double nine dominoes and double nine dominoes
a lot more complicated because you got a lot more
numbers to think through. And my grandfather, oh my abuelo,
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he could play dominos. In fact, we still have these
like wooden domino trays that he made in this woodshop
that we play with to this day. And he was
he was such a good domino player that after like
four rounds he could tell you what dominoes every person around.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
The table had. Like it was freaking See, I don't
have that. Do you have that type of memory? I
just don't.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I have some of it, but not at the So
when it comes to poker, one of my best friends
in the world is actually an amateur professional poker player,
so he has played in multiple world series of Pokers,
and I played with him a ton, and it's interesting.
When he and I play, he gets pissed because he's very,
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very good at the math. He knows the math of
every hand here or the outs, here's the percentages. I'm
okay at the math. I'm I don't have the percentages
down like it's thirty seven percent. I have. This percentage
is notionally right. I have a general I have a
pretty good scent to the math, but it's not exact.
What I play is I read the other players. So
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this buddy of mine who's was a grooms in my wedding,
one of my closest friends. We'll play and we've probably
played one hundred poker games together, and my guess is
I want about half and he's won about half. And
it drives him crazy because I'll make plays and he's like,
what the hell are you doing. You can't do that.
The math didn't make sense. And I'll look at him
and say, Adam, I did it because you didn't want
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me to. Because when I'm playing poker, the biggest thing
I'm doing is I'm looking in the eyes of the
other people. I'm trying to figure out what do you want?
And I'm going to do the opposite of what you want,
And so it's a Look, what's fun about poker is
you have the math and skill of it, but you
also have the people reading. And that's a blast. And
I gotta say, I'm really proud because my daughter, Caroline,
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she's good at both of that. I mean, she's still
a new poker player, but she's good at reading people.
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Donald Trump has begun the process centator of designating the
Muslim Brotherhood is a terrorist organization. This is something that
you've been advocating for talking about. We've talked about on
the show for quite some time. They've also been doing
this in Texas, and now we're seeing it become part
two nationwide.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Your reaction, So, look, this is massively important. President Trump
announced this week that he's going to designate the Muslim
Brotherhood as a terrorist organization. I have literally been fighting
for this to happen for ten years. It has been
five different Congresses that I've introduced legislation directing the federal
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government to designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization.
We came really really close in the first Trump administration.
I was pushing this. I had legislation, I was fighting
for it. And the reason we fell just short. And
the reason we fell just short is the deep state
in the State Department, they did not want to designate
the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization. And the old
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version of the legislation I filed was a top down.
So what it did is it directed the State Department
and the Administration to designate the Global Muslim Brotherhood, the
umbrella organization, as a terrorist organization. And what happened was
the deep state bureaucrats they argued, well, it is not
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definitively proven that every single Muslim Brotherhood affiliate across the
globe is a terrorist organization. Some of them clearly are,
but it's not proven that all of them are. And
that argument, at the end of the day, stopped Trump
one from doing this. So Trump two starts and I
leaned in again and I said, all right, we're going
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to get this done, and I redrafted the legislation and
pick a totally different approach. Instead of being top down,
I went bottom up and I said, look, the State
Department is directed to designate the individual Muslim Brotherhood affiliates
that are terrorist organizations designate them as such. So, for example,
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HAMAS is the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine. There is zero
dispute that Hamas is a terrorist organization. And so my
legislation said, designate the individual affiliates, whichever one's that there's
clear and definitive proof they're terrorist organizations, and then designate
the Global Muslim Brotherhood for material support for those terrorist organizations,
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because the Global organization funds every one of their affiliates.
And so it was a fundamental shift. And at the
end of the day, I think it's unlikely Congress will
pass my legislation because to pass it, I need sixty
Democrats and I need sixty Senators. I need at least
seven Democrats, and I think it's unlikely we'll get seven Democrats.
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I've got one, so the legislation and the Senators cruized Fetterman.
So John Fetterman has joined me. But to get to
seven it is not easy. But I've been fighting this
fight because I want to build the momentum for the
President to do what he did this week. But he
did this week is exactly what my legislation says, which
is he directed the State Department to designate the individual
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affiliates the lower organizations that are clearly terrorist organizations. And
I'll tell you Seb Gorka is that the head of
counter terrorism the National Security Council. Sev is an old friend.
I have met with Seb and talked at length about
making this happen. And then just three weeks ago, I
was at the White House. I was with President Trump.
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It was right after he had designated Nigeria as a
country a particular concern because Boko Haram and radical Islamic
terrorists were murdering Christians. More than fifty thousand Christians have
been murdered Nigeria. And I've been fighting to designate Nigeria
for a long time. And so I told the presidents
right after he did that, I said, I said, thank you,
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thank you, thank you, thank you for designating Nigeria. Really
big deal, enormously important. And he responded me, he said, great,
ted happy to do it. He said, is there anyone
else we should designate? What else should we do? And
I said the Brotherhood, We should designate the Muslim Brotherhood.
He said to me three weeks ago, I'm happy to
do it. We'll get it done this week. He got
it done. It is a big, big, big deal. This
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is literally ten years of hard work, and it will
make America safer because the Muslim Brotherhood is funding terrorists
that want to murder you and want to murder me.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, it is not, just as you mentioned, a big deal.
It's a national security issue. And there's also been a
very weird quietness online on this. There are some members
of the Democratic Party that are acting is that the
Muslim Brotherhood really shouldn't be designate as a terrorist organization.
It might be one of the weirdest things I've ever
seen on social media happen, and yet here we are
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witnessing it in real time. Is They're like, well, hold
on a second, why would we really need to do this.
I'm like, what world are you living in? Are you
kidding me?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Well, and many of our allies in the Middle East
already understand the threat. So, for example, the Global Muslim
Brotherhood is outlawed as a terrorist group by Bahrain, by Egypt,
by Jordan, by Saudi Arabia, and by the UAE. I've
spoke with the governments of those countries. They really want
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the United States to do what President Trump did this week,
which is designate the Muslim Brotherhood. Austria has also banned
the group. Germany is considering legislation to do the same.
French intelligence has described the Muslim Brotherhood as quote a
threat to national cohesion, and the British officials say the
Muslim Brotherhood is subject to surveillance under Britain's anti extremism laws.
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So there is a growing movement to recognize that the
Muslim Brotherhood is funding, is promoting terrorism, Terrorism that is
trying to kill Americans, terrorism that's trying to kill Europeans,
terrorism that is trying to kill Israelis. And designating a
group as a terrorist organization unleashes a host of tools,
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including sanctions and wrecked military action that we can take
against them. And this is as I said, it has
been ten years. I've been fighting for this to happen.
I want to credit President Trump here. Here's what the
Wall Street Journal Editorial Board wrote about it. Wall Street
Journal Editorial Board said, quote, nearly a quarter century, after
nine to eleven, the US has taken aim at a
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leading incubator of Islamic terrorism, the Muslim Brotherhood. Previous attempts
to prescribe the group, including by the first Trump administration,
were stymied by the Brotherhood's loose structure. On Monday, President
Trump signed an executive order to begin the process of
designating the Brotherhood branches as terrorist organizations. Branches in Egypt, Jordan,
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and Lebanon are singled out for a thirty day review,
though the order isn't limitated to them. This is a
big deal. America is safer. Thank you, President Trump.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
All Right, So there's another thing.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
This week's center and it really rarely to headlines like
actually genuinely ticked me off, cynical guy, But there was
one this week with the New York Times.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
And then I'm gonna I'm gonna call bs on that.
I'm gonna call on that.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
You think the New York Times this week?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah, I know you too well. I has there been
a day in the past year when there was not
a headline that pissed you off?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yes, Eastern Christmas, Thanksgiving, Probably because I'm not reading the
news then.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
So the days you don't read the headlines, I'm just
saying they kissed you off every day. But I will
admit this was particularly infuriating.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Very okay, so you'll back on my team on this one.
I like this.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
So there's this story, then you're always on my team.
You're you're a You're a constructive criticism teammate. That's how
I would describe you. So the New York Times comes
out with this headline, this story that's actually supposed to
make you, as an American citizen, feel sorry for an
undocumented worker.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
They call it that.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I call it an illegal immigrant that stole an American's identity.
And they say, well, there's two men that paid a price.
And they also refer to the identity as a individual,
like one, like two become one, like they're married. It
is the most insane propaganda, even from the New York
Times standard.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Well, all across the country, there are thousands of people
who have had their identity stolen by illegal immigrants, and
it is causing real pain. It's causing real chaos. Ironically,
the New York Times and the Myths that are propaganda
piece accidentally reported the news and talked about the devastating consequences. Now,
of course, what they said is that if an illegal
immigrant steals your identity, the illegal alien is a victim
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and not just you. So let's just read the beginning
of this article, because it's one that will make your
head explode the title. Two men, one identity. They both
paid the price. Thousands of undocumented workers rely on fraudulent
Social Security numbers. One of them belong to Dan Clover.
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Dan Clover saw the police lights flashing in his rearview
mirror late last year and eased his car onto the shoulder,
thinking there had been some kind of mistake. He had
spent four decades in rural Minnesota without ever getting into trouble.
He prided himself on a life built around dependability and routine,
working at the same factory where his father once did,
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and spending his weekends coaching baseball and teaching Sunday school.
He had never fired a gun, or smoked a cigarette,
or missed a payment, or had been arrested. By the way,
I'm not sure I believe that he's never fired a gun.
The guys in rural Minnesota. That sounds like a New
York Times BS statement, But leave that as his side.
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Quote license and registration, please, the officer said. Clover forty two,
handed them over and waited while the officer went back
to his patrol call. He listened to the church bells
that rang every hour and watched the sunlight reflect off
the grain silos in downtown Olivia, where he knew most
of the two twenty four hundred residents, including the officers.
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Walking back to his car, it's everything all right, Clover asked.
It's strange, but it looks like your license has been suspended.
You've got another driver's license with some issues down in Missouri.
What Clover said, I've barely ever been to Missouri. How
is that possible. The officer had no answers, but Clover
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feared he might know what was happening. Over the years,
there had been signs that something wasn't right, stray letters
about wages earned in unfamiliar towns, and collection notices for
debt that wasn't his. Clover had tried to untangle the
mess several times by hiring tax specialists and driving to
government offices across the state, only to run into the
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same bureaucratic dead ends. But now the problem was bigger
than unpaid taxes. Somebody was impersonating him, moving through the
world as Dan Clover, building a life in his name
with a government issued ID. His The problem was one
version of a problem that's been spreading across the country
for years. The government estimates that as many as one
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million undocumented workers are using fraudulent or stolen social security numbers.
Let me repeat that, The government estimates that as many
as one million undocumented workers are using fra stolen social
security numbers a survival tactic. Of course, it's fiber tactic.
They're just stealing because they want to survive, used to
pass background checks and get jobs. The numbers are skimmed
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from data breach, sold in the black market online for
as little as one hundred and fifty dollars, or handed
out in border towns by human smugglers. Many numbers connect
back to US citizen children, dead people, or Porto Ricans,
whose numbers circulate easily across the mainland, but thousands of
others belong to people like Clover, Americans whose names and
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identities are no longer theirs alone. The police officer sent
Clover home with a warning, and he sifted through filecap
vents with his wife Christie, searching for clues about the
other Dan Clover. His solid security card was safely locked away,
alongside birth certificates for their three children. He'd never been
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robbed or even lost his wallet, but there was his
number printed on a W two from a leather factory
in a town he never visited. He traced fifteen years
of records and found more tax documents listing unfamiliar jobs
at a cement plant in Kansas, a paper mill in Tennessee,
a construction company in Ohio, a seal a cereal factory
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in Nebraska, and a dog food plant in Missouri. How
do you think you've been getting between all these places,
Christie asked. It's eerie. It's like I've lost all control
over who I am, Clover said. Some years the other
Dan Clover had earned more than his own salary at
a local sugar beet factory, which pushed the total income
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under a solid security number into a higher tax bracket.
As the death started to mount, twice he'd contacted law
enforcement and filed into DNIY theft report with the federal government.
He waited for relief while the IRS docked his annual
tax returns and garnished a few of his paychecks, costing
him thousands. Finally, a few months before their wedding in
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twenty twelve, Christie decided to pay off the balance, emptying
her savings and sending a check for six thousand dollars
their relief lasted until the next tax season, when a
new bill arrived, this one for twenty two thousand dollars.
They spent the next decade living with the consequences annual
tax audits, budgets that never added up, whispered arguments. After
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the kids went to bed, Clover kept calling government numbers
and waiting on hold until he eventually resigned himself to
a payment plan. He agreed to send the irs one
hundred and fifty dollars each month, which he'd done more
than thirty five times. I can't keep obsessing over this
and getting nowhere, he told Christie. I need to think
about something else that is going on. And yet The
(23:03):
New York Times at the same time described the person
who stolen's identity. He had lived under enough names and
numbers in the United States that they started to blur together.
Vincent Trochilo, Rainaldo Guera, and then, for more than a decade,
Daniel Clover, the name he'd used until he could barely
remember what it felt like to exist as himself. Romeo
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Perez Bravo forty two a Guatemalan immigrant who has spent
most of his adult life working under borrowed identities, borrowed
being the fake name for stolen. By the start of
twenty twenty five, he was preparing for another graveyard shift
in Saint Joseph, Bassouri, lacing his work boots in the
darkness and his drafty rental while his wife and five
children slept, He packed their school lunches. The next day,
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drove to the dog food factory and gathered with his
coworkers to say their nightly prayer. Then he swiped his
badge to again another twelve hour shift as Daniel Clover,
sinking deeper into an identity that wasn't really his own. Daniel,
his boss always shouted taking attendance before they went to
their lines. Here, he said. Perez Bravo had come to
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the United States for the first time at sixteen to
help earn money for his family. Traveling alone to join
his father in Marshall, Minnesota, he hiked out of the
Guatemalan Highlands, rode atop a freight train for three weeks
across Mexico, nearly drowned in the Rio Grande, and took
a greyhound to Middle America, where life somehow felt harder.
He slept on a couch at his father's apartment and
(24:30):
enrolled in high school, despite speaking almost no English. Then
he began to look for a job, but no one
would hire an underage worker without papers. The entire story
goes on to say, this guy who has stolen the
identity of a poor working man in Minnesota, he's the victim,
despite the fact that that Daniel Clover, the real Daniel Clover,
(24:53):
is paying IRS debts, his credit has been ruined. It
has been a nightmare for him. And yet for the
New York Time, they say it's one identity. This the
poor guy that stole his identity, is really the victim.
It is an infuriating example of propaganda. Let me go
back to the stat that I read more than one
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million illegal immigrants have stolen identities of Americans, and Americans
are hurting all over the country, and the New York
Times is saying, you too should have your identity stolen,
You too should pay the price, You too should pay
IRS bills that you don't know because an illegal immigrant
stole your identity. And by the way, that illegal immigrants
(25:35):
is the victim, not you.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Center finally, on the show, let's deal with a major problem.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
It's huge.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
A university is now warning of a quote unquote whiteness pandemic.
Not a problem, but a pandemic, a whiteness pandemic. This
coming from the University of Minnesota. I'll let you take
it from there.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Ye got to say, this is going to piss you off.
Are you white? Then apparently you are an evil, noxious
scourge on America. You are a pandemic, You are a virus,
You are a disease, and woke leftists are going to
re educate the whiteness right out of you. Like I
wish I were making this up, Like when I say
these words, you sound like a lunatic. You sound like
(26:22):
you're wearing like a tinfoil hat, and you believe in
conspiracy theories. But I want to read to you from
a website from the University of Minnesota. By the way,
there is a state website. This is all right. Here's
what the website says, quote, what is the whiteness pandemic?
Racism is an epidemic that can also be considered a
(26:44):
pandemic given its large cross national proportion and spread. However,
there is another pandemic lurking behind and driving the racist pandemic,
the whiteness pandemic. Whiteness refers to culture not biology. The
century culture of whiteness features color blindness, in other words,
not being a racist. That is, the whiteness pandemic. Passivity,
(27:07):
and white fragility were all covert expressions of racism common
in the United States. Naming the whiteness pandemic shifts our
gaze from the victims and effects of racism onto the
systems that perpetrate and perpetuate racism, starting with the family system.
In other words, families are racist. If you believe in families,
(27:28):
if you believe in a mom and dad raising kids,
loving kids. That is, the family system is part of
the whiteness pandemic. At birth, young children growing up in
white families begin to be socialized into the culture of whiteness,
making the family system one of the most powerful systems
involved in systemic racism. That this is open. We hate families,
(27:52):
is what the University of Minnesota is saying. And okay,
what's the next section? Quote how do we halt and
reverse the whiteness pandemic? If you were born and raised
in the United States, you have grown up in the
whiteness pandemic, and you can play a role in halting
or reversing this pandemic. Especially if you are white, because
(28:15):
of the power and privilege you hold in this racialized society.
If you were socialized into the culture of whiteness during
your childhood, it is not your fault, but as an adult,
it is now your responsibility to self reflect, to re
educate yourself and act. If you are a white adult,
anti racist action involves an ongoing process of self reflection
(28:40):
in order to develop a healthy, positive white identity while
encouraging courageous anti racist parenting sash caregiving. What utter and
complete garbage, what racist leftist communist drek And this is
the University of Minnesota. By the way, Look, there are
(29:01):
like great people in Minnesota, They're great people in every state,
and yet these people are racist radicals. And this is
what they're indoctrinating our children with.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Not only the indoctionnary children, but this is where a
lot of our dollars are tax hours go, which is
the other frustrating part that this is what they're indoctrinating
them with.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Undoubtedly. And by the way, our podcast on Monday, so
we do this podcast three days a week, Monday, Wednesday,
and Friday. Our podcast on Monday talked about what is
the number one funder of Al Shabab, the radical Islamics
(29:41):
terrorist group. And the answer, terrifyingly enough, is the taxpayers
of the state of Minnesota. So in Minnesota has a
huge Somali community. Somalis have invaded the state of Minnesota.
It's how you elect Ilhan Omar, who actively is anti
American racist, radical embraces and supports radical Islamic terrorists. And
(30:05):
the Somali community sends billions every year back to Somalia
and millions of that money sent back ends up directly
in the pockets and the coffers of Al Shabab. And
it is the Minnesota state taxpayers. So we detailed this
on Monday. How welfare fraud, fraudulent collection of welfare payments,
(30:31):
an entire welfare system set up seemingly on the face
of it to encourage fraud, to facilitate fraud, is resulting
in Minnesota taxpayers sending millions of dollars to radical Islamic terrorists.
This is the same ideology like what do you do
(30:52):
if you happen to be a white kid at the
University of Minnesota. You show up and be told by
the way you're just you know your seventeen eighteen year
old kid. You show up as a freshman, and if
you're white, you're told you're a pandemic, you're a virus.
And the only answer is re educate yourself because who
(31:12):
you are, who America is. And understand this screed against
quote anti whiteness, is also a screed against America. That
these Marxists hate the United States of America, they hate
the Constitution, they hate our freedoms. And this garbage that
is anti racism, this garbage that is DEI, this garbage
that says we must institutionalize. By the way, the fix
(31:36):
for the anti for the whiteness pandemic is to discriminate
against anyone who is white, is to institutionalize racism. And
that is grotesque. It is wrong. It is contrary to
the fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution, which protects provides the
equal protection of the law to all people are regardless
of race. It is contrary to the founding notions of
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this country. The Declaration said, we hold these truths to
be self evident, that all men are created equal, not some,
not just white people, not just black people, not anyone.
All men and all women are created equal, that they
are endowed by their creator with certain unvailable rights that
among them are life liberty in the pursuit of happiness.
That's what this country was built on. And these Marxists
(32:21):
who have taken over our institutions hate that notion, and
this kind of garbage is being spewed to our children
and being used to brainwash our children at a massive rate.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
I tell this all the time to parents when they
ask be careful where you send your kids to college,
because they could be indoctrinated to literally hate this country.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
This is another exam.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
And to hate you exactly, to hate their mom and dad.
But by the way, what I just read the family system.
They are attacking families. They're telling your kids family is evil.
That's what Marxists believe.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yeah, amen, don't We do this show as a podcast Monday,
Wednesday and Friday, So make sure you hit that subscribe
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Speaker 3 (33:26):
Ben Ferguson, it's been a pleasure to be with you.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Be safe out there on the roads, whether there's Thanksgiving
holiday weekend, and we'll see you back here real soon
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