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October 24, 2025 39 mins
Tainted love. Staying hydrated. FBI links mafia gambling and sports rigging schemes to the arrests of Miami Heat guard Terry Rozier and Portland Trail Blazers head coach Chauncey Billups. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jeffrey doesn't last long in bed, but only because he's
in a hurry to get home to his wife. Obviously
that's just a joke. He's in a hurry to go
watch wrestling or something. We're back with Rover's Morning Glory.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hizzy is coming up in just a moment, the news.
What do you have on the way, Dougie.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
I almost texted Snitzer or video guy yesterday because I
was really said that somebody passed away, and I thought
he would be sad.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
I didn't text him.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
I'll tell you who it is next, all right, we'll
get to that in just a moment. Tim says we're over.
You don't have a conservative bone in your body. You're
not fooling anybody, followed by Brian, who writes nobody would
be surprised you go.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Full on maga.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
You've slowly been going that way all year. So you
could see differing opinions there from two different people and garbage.
Van X says kid Rock isn't a world leader. He
can dress like that, and number two, he wasn't begging
for money that we don't have, like the twenty billion
dollars we just gave Argentina. You know, make Argentina great again. Duji,
are you ready forty billion? Okay, I think we doubled it.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
This was in regards to something we talked about before
the break, where an AM station wants to put.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
You on it's right, well not only an conservative oh yeah,
I mean very very very conservative.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
So do you remember, and.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
You don't have to go into specifics, but do you
remember what happened to your LA radio career when an
AM station put your show on?

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Hees, nothing but old people complained about me. I mean
they were going bers zerk because I worked for this
company in Los Angeles and they put the show on
a bunch of AM stations. Well, nobody under the age
of one thousand listens to AM radio. And not only that,
but then where they put us on in some of

(01:48):
these cities. The strangest thing happened in one of the cities.
Somehow the transmitter of this RinkyDink AM radio station was
interfering with the telephone lines in the I don't even
know how this is possible, some sort of electromagnetic radio
interference or something, and so old ladies would pick up

(02:11):
their telephone. This is back in the day where you'd
have a land line, they'd pick up the telephone, put
the receivers their ear or they'd be on they'd be
on a phone call and they would be hearing our
show in the background of their phone call. And it
was driving the old people, the elderly people completely preserve
and the icing on the cake.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
And how you got fired was a comment that you
made about a girl that you pleasured when she had
her period, and that was pulled in and that was
so we don't do.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
That, doesn't fly on. But things are different now. Perhaps, Yeah,
that's right. I'm gonna grab them by the pin and
we're going full on, am all mega, all the time.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Ducie, are you ready for the isshes? Here we go?

Speaker 4 (03:00):
There was morning glory.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
The Senate failed to pass a bill yesterday that would
have paid some federal workers during the government shutdown. The
Shutdown Fairness Act had fifty five votes, but needed sixty
to move forward. The bill would have paid troops and
workers during doing their emergency jobs, but Democrats worried it
gave too much power to the White House to pick

(03:21):
who gets paid and who doesn't, so federal workers will
miss their first full paycheck today.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
As a shutdown continued.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Look, here's the bottom line is this.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
I don't know whatevery they're doing with these Obamacare subsidies
that they're so bent out of shape.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
I think that's the main act. I don't even want
to hear it. Hang on.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
The bottom line is this, you have to reopen the government.
It's a separate issue. You've already lost whatever whatever the
argument was with Obamacare subsidies being part of the budget,
well you lost it. They passed the budget. You get
you know, you're done, done at all. You're trying to
re litigate the issue because you have a government shutdown

(04:06):
that has now taken place, and you think that you
have some sort of leverage. The Democrats have absolutely no
leverage here. You just have to reopen the government. People
are not getting paid. There are two million federal workers
not getting a paycheck, not getting their first full paycheck
as of today. Most people live paycheck to paycheck. Stop

(04:28):
with this nonsense. Get people paid. And if, as I've
said a thousand times, if your idea about Obamacare subsidies
or whatever, which I thought it was going to pay
for itself.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
But if that's an issue.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
It should be very easy for you to make a
case to the American public that says, hey, we need this,
and if the Republicans don't pass this, here's blah blah
blah blah blah, remember that next election, so on and
so forth. It should be very easy for you to
make this case. If it's so cut.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
Let's not forget that the Democrats also put on the
put it in the deadline that day these substats would end.
It would would paternity at the end of this year.
That's what the Republicans are saying. But the Republicans also
believe that the Democrats are want these substies for illegal aliens,
which I always thought that under federal law that these

(05:21):
benefits would not be that illegal aliens would not be
eligible for this kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
That's that's true.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
So I don't still pay attention to all of these
talking points. I'm just saying, get stuff, get start paying people,
and get get people.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Speaking of paying people and all of this and living
paycheck to paycheck, nearly forty two million Americans who receive
Snap food benefits may not be able to use their
cards starting November first, So.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Because money, because.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
And a lot of these workers are going to get
the back pay anyway, so they're not doing any work
or you know, I guess they're continuing to go to work.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Some are tsa workers I kind of stuff, whatever. But
you know, it's not good for.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
You know, it's certainly not cost effective to do this
by any strikecher.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
For a lot of people that need this money, the SNAP,
the money that they get from the government. A lot
of states are telling people to stock up on shelf
stable foods, are prepared to use food banks. So you
have food banks ramping up and trying to help people
and taking donations and stuff like that. So we are
running out of time and people with SNAP benefits forty

(06:30):
two million Americans are running out of money. An Oregon
school is investigating after students were mistakenly served pretzels sprinkled
with oven cleaner during a sixth grade lunch.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
How did that happen?

Speaker 3 (06:45):
I's already say the oven cleaner was mistaken for salt
after being crushed and left on a counter. The school
contacted the Oregon Poison Control Center for guidance, and affected
students were instructed to rinse their mouths, to eat planned foods,
and monitor symptoms.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
That the oven cleaner. Just rinse your mouth you'll be
all right.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
It's the school apologized and they're reviewing safety protocols to
prevent future incidents.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
Your boy, Lionel Messi.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Lionel has finally agreed to a new contract with Inter Miami.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
I saw this yesterday.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
Did you cry?

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Your contract?

Speaker 4 (07:20):
So excited?

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Shined it in the new.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Stadium which is under construction, which they claim is going
to be open for next season next year, in a
few months.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
I mean, I don't know. I just drove by it.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
It doesn't look like it's anywhere near completion, but you know,
things move fast down in Miami when it comes to construction.
Will they build an entire stadium before you before.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
A bankruptcy box?

Speaker 2 (07:43):
I mean, seriously, they started that, They opened that up.
They broke ground on that stadium well after bankruptcy Box
was under remodel.

Speaker 5 (07:51):
Have you seen how far along they are with the construction.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Of the stadium. I have.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
I just passed by it last weekend and they have
made some significant product gris.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
But it's you know, it's far from that.

Speaker 5 (08:03):
Far from a great which gets finished first stadium or
a bankruptcy box.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Kind of like I was just saying, let's see what
gets finished first bankruptcy.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
They need him.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
I'm sure they paid him a ton of money because
with the stadium being built, they're selling all these packages.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
Him being there is.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Going to help with ticket sales, and so that's.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Oh, you need. They paid some other guys.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Two other guys retire this year, and so they need
They needed him. I'm not convinced that he'll actually play
the unsil three. No, I'm not convinced he'll play the
three years. He'll just I think he'll re do this deal.
He'll get a bunch of people locked in on season tickets,
and then he will retire because another guy that plays

(08:49):
for Inter Miami signed a three year deal a few
months ago, and he just announced his retirement like two
weeks ago. So well, three doesn't mean that you can't retire.
He can certainly.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Well, they're quit so.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
I think I think they have some sort of unspoken
or maybe it's even spoken agreement. Hey, re sign this.
We're opening up this new stadium without you. There's no
demand for this period nobody. You couldn't give these tickets
away before Messi started playing for that team, So if
he leaves, nobody's going to buy the seats in this
new stadium, So uh, sign and then you can retire.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Maybe next year or whatever you want to do if
you so desire.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
But he did lead the league in goals this season,
so obviously still able to do it.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Go on Duche.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
Entertainment News for you.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Netflix played an Uno reverse card on everyone, and they're
going to bring the two hour Stranger Things finale to
theaters after all. It'll get a very limited two day
run in more than three hundred and fifty theaters across
the country.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
And reverse card, Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Get the card game or anything. He just said.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
You just said they wouldn't, but Uno, it's it's a Netflix.
It would be Netflix playing an Uno reverse card.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
I said.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Netflix played an reverse card a reverse card too, because
they said that they weren't going to do theaters and
now they are doing theaters.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
It's going to be on Netflix.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
I did.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
It'll get a very limited.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Two day run in more than three hundred and fifty
theaters across the country and in Canada, screenings will coincide
with its global Netflix premiere and we'll start at five
pm Pacific on New Year's Eve, December thirty first, So
this will be pretty cool. And finally, the story that
I did not text Anthony Snitzer, one half of Soft Cell.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
You know, do you remember that band Soft Cell?

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Tainted Love was the song of theirs, which was by
the way, that was a remake from I don't know
who did that song originally, honestly, but that was Oh man,
that was.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
A big song.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
Dave Ball, one half Little Kid of.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
The electronic duo Soft Cell, dies at sixty six years old.
He had been battling some health issues in recent years
years and he passed away peacefully in his sleep.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
That would be Jeffrey's q to play Tainted Love by
Soft Cell, But I guess I'll have to do it
over here.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Huge song.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Wait, they weren't the makers of the song.

Speaker 6 (11:23):
It says that it was composed by Ed Cobb and
Gloria Jones was the first person to record it in
nineteen sixty four.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Oh yeah, this is a remake.

Speaker 6 (11:35):
I know this song from the movie Coneheads and this
is what they're playing in the car and that's how
I know this.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Who else sings this? Who redid it?

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Ireland Manson is either Marilyn Manson or of Orgy. A
Orgy did a New Order song. I believe maybe they
did this too, but I think it was Marilyn Manson.
I think.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
It's diusy Onover's Waning Gregg.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
It was Marilyn Manson, is what somebody just told me.
It looks like the.

Speaker 6 (12:34):
Music video for it with Marilyn Manson. They are in
a hot tub. Is they at a party or something?

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, that's not a you know, that's not the video
where the girl claimed she was raped by Marilyn Manson?

Speaker 7 (12:47):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Because they did a video shoot and a woman is like, oh,
he raped for me that day and then I started
dating him and became his girlfriend after that, and it
was a video that was filmed. I think it was
in his backyard.

Speaker 6 (13:02):
Oh, this is like it's supposed to be a high
school party.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Somebody saw Charlie yesterday, and Charlie, apparently, according to this guy,
was making fun of people carrying around water bottles, and
he himself was carrying around a metal water bottle. This
guy wants to answers, Charlie, both of those things aren't true,
but okay, you weren't carrying around a metal water bottle.

Speaker 7 (13:32):
I was at my coffee cup yesterday and I also
didn't make fun of me, but carry around water bottles.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
I said women don't drink enough water.

Speaker 7 (13:39):
You said the women were always carrying around water bottles,
And I never mentioned that they're carrying it or not.
I just said they don't drink enough. My girlfriend peace
three times a day. It's no water's being in My
mom doesn't drink any water. Nobody, any woman I know,
doesn't drink enough water.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
You only need to drink water when you're thirsty. That's it.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
People, for whatever reason of somehow gotten into this thing
where they believe they need to drink all these Now
it's in your your Your body does this. Your body
tells you when you need to drink water. And how
does it tell that to you?

Speaker 4 (14:13):
Headaches?

Speaker 2 (14:14):
You get sick headaches, now, sus that's not how it
does it. Your body makes you thirsty and then you
drink water. But they shut the heart out of their brain. Somehow,
a lot of women just shut that out of their brain.
They go, that's fine, I don't I'll feel bloated or something.
I don't know why they're not drinking the water. Just
drink water. Just like when you're hungry, you eat food.

(14:37):
It's it's the same thing. When you're thirsty, you drink water.
Your body has this all figured out. You don't need
to be carrying around a giant six gallon dress. Never
claims to be thirsty, my girlfriends, she never claims to
be thirsty. But she peas when she wakes up once
in the middle of the day and then once before bed.

Speaker 7 (14:54):
That's not enough. Seriously, three times? Are you sure it's
only three times? Who might have to put a pea
tracker on her? Go ahead, I'll get unstall that coler
camera in the toilet. We could monitor hydration.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
I'm telling you you get a notification. Does not pea?

Speaker 4 (15:08):
Is it brown?

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Oh? It's it's dark. How do you know this?

Speaker 2 (15:12):
You're looking at her pee before she I look at it.
You go in there, you take a whiff, and what
are you doing?

Speaker 3 (15:17):
No?

Speaker 7 (15:17):
I just know you could tell, you can just tell,
you can tell. You look at her and you go
she's got dark tea hydrated. It looks like the stuff
that in Jurassic Park. Like it's amber, dude, it's dark.

Speaker 6 (15:28):
I was watching something the other day that said, if
you're eating your meal and you have to drink constantly
something throughout it, that does mean that you are probably
more dehydrated. If you can eat your meal and you're
not drinking any water at all while you eat. It's
because you are hydrated enough. And then usually you drink
after you're done eating.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
That's what I do.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
I usually don't drink while I'm eating. I'll take a
few SIPs when I'm done eating. That's it, Jessica says.
I tell my daughter all the time, if your pea
is yellow, you need to drink more water.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Untrue. You is true.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
You're not a doctor.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
That is not true. This is you.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Guys are crazy, your peace. It's a yellow, lightly tinted yellow.
Not It depends on the deep ness. It's not a
deep dark amber color like your's water. It's just no, no,
it's just yellow.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
That's it. That's peep p. He's not supposed to be clear.
It's it's I don't know what.

Speaker 7 (16:22):
People, It's supposed to be lightly tinted yellow. It's not
supposed to be a deep yellow. It's I didn't say
it's a deep yellow. Least thing you drank water about?

Speaker 2 (16:33):
I have a I drink one can of water during
the show Lacroix, Well, just one can, one can, that's it?

Speaker 7 (16:39):
Yes, okay, so uh no, so I was not spotted
with a water bottle. Your coffee is what you were
spotting coffee.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
I see. So you can't be without your coffee. You
have to carry your coffee around. Well, was it.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Somewherever you're doing you go to home, deepot or whatever,
you have to carry well, a metal container of coffee.

Speaker 7 (16:57):
I was taking my dad to the hospital and I
don't know how long I was going to be there,
so yeah, they did bring my coffee into the waiting room.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
You might be in there for for hours, could be there.
I don't know. It could be there for many hours
I was.

Speaker 7 (17:10):
I did no idea what I was going to so
I took him there and I don't know how long
it's going to be, so yes, I brought my coffee
in with me in the waiting room.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
I will make sure I don't do that from now on.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
Does your girlfriend look at your pee.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Charlie, she knows I'm my piece.

Speaker 5 (17:25):
Good.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
How often do you go to the bathroom? I don't know.
Eight times of days, do you really? Eight times? Probably?
Probably ten, I don't know, Yeah a lot, let's count
so far. I've only peeed once this morning.

Speaker 7 (17:40):
When you wake up right when I do my wake
up pee and then, but I'm halfway done with the
coffee here, so.

Speaker 4 (17:47):
I do once in the middle of the night.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
It'll I'd be in the middle of night once or
twice for sure. Drinking too much water? You get whole night.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
I drink mine last night.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
How many bottles you kicked back?

Speaker 4 (18:00):
I drink four bottles of wine last night.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Wow, all right, I've got to take a break. Our
number is eight sixty six. You're over eight sixty six,
nine sixty seven, six eighty three seven, will be right back.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Hang on.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
So yesterday during the show, we had some breaking news
that the FEDS had arrested some thirty plus people in
connection with gambling, illegal gambling operations or illegal betting or
fixing of stuff when it comes to NBA games, or

(18:49):
being associated with the mob when it comes to poker games.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
We had.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Terry Rozier, the player who was arrested for leaving a
game early. Essentially what he did back in twenty twenty three.
He told some associates who were I guess members of
organized crime. He said, I'm going to leave the I'm

(19:18):
going to leave the game early, so take me on
the prop bet on the under. However, many points because
I'm going to fake an injury and leave early in
the game, so there's no way the prop bet would
be like, is he going to score sixteen or more
points or whatever, and he said, no, don't do it.
He scored I think nine points at this game in

(19:41):
twenty twenty three, and then he goes, I have a
foot injury, and he left in the first quarter of
the game, never to return. So the I believe it
was actually DraftKings who alerted the NBA to this.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
DraftKings said, you know, we've.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Seen a lot of suspicious activity when it comes to
this particular prop bet on this player in this game,
and they alerted the NBA. The NBA launched an investigation.
Rosier didn't play for the rest of the season. They
were already out of the playoffs. He was playing for
Charlotte at the time, they were already out of the playoffs,
only had seven or eight games remaining in the season.

(20:20):
He didn't come back, and at the time, you go,
all right, well, he injured his foot, so it's obviously
just going to let him sit out the rest of
the season in order to heal. You're already out of
the playoff contention, so what's the point of bringing a
high caliber player back and risking further injury. Just just
sit it out, heal up, and we'll see you next season.

(20:42):
In reality, that was an investigation being launched by the
NBA that this guy might have purposely done this. Now,
this is a guy, and that's why he didn't play
the rest of the season, because they had launched this investigation.
This is a guy who I believe, in his career
has made forget what the exact figure is, if it's
one hundred and sixty or one hundred and ninety million.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Dollars in his career.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
And the allegation here is that he left that game
early so that his associates could bet on him not
scoring enough points or whatever, not getting enough rebounds. However,
they divvy up these bets and they got two hundred
thousand dollars in profit, which they brought to his house
and counted up the two hundred thousand dollars right there

(21:29):
at his house. I don't know if they cut him
in on this or whatever. I don't know all of
the further details on this, but this is a very
serious accusation allegation, and this guy would be of course
banned for life. There have been other people NBA players
kicked out, banned for life over something like this. We've

(21:50):
seen guardians, relief pitchers have been implicated in something similar
where it's very weird. The first pitch you come out
and you throw, it's always a ball, like by about
three feet. It's bouncing three feet in front of the plate.
What an oddity that is. Well, they noticed strange betting

(22:12):
behavior every time this picture would come in.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
That's weird that pitch is going to be a ball.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
How come so many people are betting such big bucks.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
On that so it sets off alarm bells and red flags?

Speaker 4 (22:25):
Don't people know that that's gonna set off? How does
it not?

Speaker 1 (22:29):
No, they don't. They don't. They don't think that.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Because of the sheer volume of bets that are being
placed in these betting apps, DraftKings, FanDuel, you name it,
there's a bunch of them. Now, a lot of people
are saying this is an indication that the legalized gambling,
that it's it's it's gone too far, and that we
are the sanctity of the game, the integrity of the

(22:54):
game is being impacted.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Now, maybe that's true.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
I don't know, But here's what I would say, the
sports books, DraftKings, Fan Duel, all the other ones, Vegas, whatever,
they they're the ones that alert the authorities, the leagues
of this suspicious betting activity, so to see the patterns.

(23:19):
Without them, you may not be aware of this. If
this were illegal book making activity. Nobody's going to have
that information that incites the data in order to support this,
So you would never know if somebody was doing this
and there were strange betting patterns taking place, you wouldn't

(23:42):
know because the mob or whoever else is running these
illegal book making operations, you wouldn't know that this was
happening because they're not going to report it. Okay, So
in a way, it's the only way that some of
this stuff would would be discovered. On the flip side
of that, because of the prop bets with these big

(24:04):
gambling platforms, maybe these people wouldn't have been enticed for
the easy money if we didn't have that kind of betting.
So I can see both sides of the of the
of the argument here. But this is a very very
serious thing. And of course they go, well, this isn't
affecting the outcome of a game, but sure it is

(24:25):
if a guy is if a guy leaves a game
early and he's not out there, not trying his best
when he could have been, and he's not productive when
he could have been, that's going to have an effect
on the game. So this is a very very serious thing,
and they need to crack down on this, and I
guess they are to. You know, look, they're banning people

(24:47):
for life. This really brings up a lot of questions
about that show. Hey, o Tani thing, I'm I'm really
very very suspicious that this guy's translator stole twenty million
dollars from him and it was and was gambling with that.
Something weird is going on with that, all right, I
think we can all be in agreement with that. But
the guy is such a big start, going to be

(25:08):
in the World Series tonight, Dodgers versus the versus the
Blue Jays. So that guy is such a big, big
star that they didn't want him to fail bringing in
Asian audience. There's a number of reasons did they cover
up for him. But there's another interesting aspect of this.

(25:33):
Here's somebody that says, I wouldn't say anything involving sports
is very serious. I have no problem with people gambling
getting taken advantage of that. That's not the right outlook
to have. Look, when you bet on something, you realize
that you're taking a risk, but you don't think that
the deck is stacked against you. You don't think that
people are conspiring to fix it, to rig it so

(25:55):
that you lose on purpose. So yeah, that is very serious.
The other interesting aspect of this is that another aspect
of this, Now there are some connections between these, these
two parallel investigations, but there's sort of this this other

(26:17):
parallel investigation going on of the mob running illegal rigged
poker games, high stakes poker games, And this is where
there's an intersection of the NBA in the Mob and
the Chauncey Billups coach Hall of Famer. He is was

(26:42):
playing in these poker games. The allegation is that he
was sort of a guy that the mob had and
he would bring in these whales, these high value players
to play in these poker games.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
We're talking hundreds of.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Thousands, millions of dollars in these poker games, and he's
a draw. Wouldn't everybody love to say that you played
in a poker game with so and so, Charlie If
if you don't play poker much, but let's say that
you had some cash and you could play in a
poker game and Lebron James was going to be playing

(27:19):
in this poker game. That's a story to tell your friends, Right, Oh,
I played poker with Lebron James last night.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Kicked his ass on the on the flop.

Speaker 7 (27:28):
On the river because if anyone knows blocks, it's Lebron
pocket aces, pocket rockets, so it's it's a draw.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
And so he's been implicated in in this with these
mob tied poker games. But they this this goes further
than just running illegal gambling or casino operations illegal card games.
What is fascinating about this is that the mob rigged
these poker games and they did this using technology.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
They had all sorts of.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Technological things that they were doing in order to rig
these poker games and essentially just steal money from the
people playing in these games.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
They had.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Most people, not everyone, but many people have been to
Las Vegas. You see the card shuffling machines that they have.
So if you're playing in the old days when you
would play blackjack, for instance, or any card game in
a casino in Las Vegas.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
They're dealing, dealing, dealing. You get done, whether it's one.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Card, two card, seven card or seven deck game, whatever,
do that's right. Once you're out, then you stop and
then you re shuffle the You shuffle the cards, and
the dealer would do this, they'd break them up at
the various stacks. I mean, there's a whole thing. It
would take five minutes to shuffle. What happens during that
five minutes people get up, they walk away.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
From the table. They go, you know what, I'm just
going to I'm ahead. It's better if I stop now.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
So the casinos don't like that, so they introduced these
these card shuffling machines.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
There's a company that makes these. Forget the name of
the company, but.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
And so they always while you're while you're dealing, there's
another bunch of cards that are being shuffled. You get
done with the ones you're dealing, out of the shoe,
and then boom, you have a fresh, fresh set of
cards shuffled, ready to go. No break in the action
can keep people at that table. Longer you keep them
at the table, the more money they're gonna lose. That's

(29:33):
that's the motto in Las Vegas. Well, these card shuffling
machines had been tampered with and they were rigged so
that they had the card shuffling machines could shuffle, could
could rig the deck basically, and they also would have
little cameras or something in there that would know where

(29:58):
the cards were, and they transmit this data to a
cell phone or a tablet or something of one of
the conspirators. On top of that, they had poker tables.
Everyone's playing on these poker tables. Underneath the poker tables,
they had special Your cards are on a felt table, right,

(30:21):
you can't see through that. Well, they had special they're
calling it x ray, but it's not really x ray.
It's some sort of I don't know if it's infra
ride or whatever it is. I don't think it's lied.
I don't know what it is, some sort of some
sort of special camera. They can essentially see right through
that poker table and see the cards. So they had

(30:44):
cameras underneath the underneath the tables. So as everybody has
their their cards faced down on the table, and as
they're delton as players have their cards in front of them,
the conspirators, the mob knows the hand of everybody at
that table, so they can signal to their inside man at.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
The table.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Go all in or do whatever you you know you are,
or fold because you're gonna lose. They would signal to
their inside man what to do and how to and
they just made millions and millions of dollars ripping off
these these high net worth people that were in these.

Speaker 7 (31:25):
I saw, I saw a cool thing and I don't
know it's They said, this is something similar to what
they're doing. They had special sunglasses on and then I
don't know how or they had contact lenses and they
could see the backs of everybody's cards that were secretly marked.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
So as you're holding your cards up, you just I'm
just looking right at your cards.

Speaker 7 (31:44):
I just know that you're holding a queen sure, because
I have this special contact lens end that reacts to
some sort of invisible light that's on the back of
the card.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
They would just tell you exactly what the card that's right.
It's it's like an invisible ink like some sort of
uh you or for whatever it is. I don't know,
but yeah, they mark the cards and then they would
wear contact lenses, not even glasses, contact lenses that would
be able to filter pick up this this light coming

(32:15):
off of the cards. And then as you are looking
at the table, you could see everybody's cards because they're
marked on the back. So the cards are faced down,
but the back of the cards are marked, so as
they're laying on the table, you can look at these
as they're being dealt.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
You go, Okay, that guy is a two on a jack.
It's like a movie. Yes, it's exactly what it is.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
Is Jeames Bond involved in this somehow.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
If you were to make a movie like this, you
would go that doesn't really happen. But it was happening
in this case, and they were making big, big bucks
off of this, and so it's a look, I don't
think I can. The leagues, of course, are going to
you know, they're going to try to take a stance

(32:59):
thea in this case, but all these sports leeks they
try all we're tough on this. And I think that
this is probably just a tip of the iceberg. This
is what we know, and I think that this probably
runs much much deeper than we'll ever know. And I'm
not a conspiracy theorist, but there's there's a lot going
on underneath the surface of this. If this is that

(33:21):
sophisticated and this many people, and you have guys that
are making one hundred and sixty million dollars in their
career that are part of this, that are leaving games early,
that are rigging.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Things in order to make a couple hundred times.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Well, I guess if you do this frequently, even if
you make one hundred and sixty million throughout your career.
Let's say you have a contract and your contract is
twenty five million dollars for the season. Well, you're paying taxes,
you're paying your agent, you're paying all sorts of things
out of that. Your twenty five million suddenly becomes twelve
million dollars take home pay, after you're paying a ten

(33:52):
percent to your agent, after you pay fifty percent taxes, whatever,
and you go, you know what, I can make an
easy once a week. I can make an easy quarter
of a million, two hundred and fifty thousand tax free.
Maybe maybe there's more of an incentive for people than
you imagine, because normally a normal person would say, these
guys are making a bunch of money. You why would

(34:12):
you get involved in this kind of stuff. So if
this is happening in the NBA. Where else is it happening.
We've seen it in baseball, football, you name it there.
This is happening all over the place. And it's crazy
the technology that they were using.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
But I think what over thirty people were arrested.

Speaker 7 (34:32):
Yeah, a lot of people the mob people, people are
NBA people of former NBA coaches, players, whatever, So there's
there's a lot of people that are involved.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
In this, even even Lebron James.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Now he's not been implicated in anything, you know, there's
no allegation that he was aware of anything. But one
of these guys that was arrested was would would leak information.
I think he was a coach at the time. I
want to say, he see he played with the Lebron

(35:06):
here on the Cavaliers. Whatever this guy's name is. I
think he was like an assistant coach or something with
the Lakers, and he would he leaked part of many
things that he did. But he linked Lebron James's injury
status to his associates. And I don't know if these
were mob guys or not, but this is not public information.

(35:29):
So he said, hey, Lebron has an injury, not going
to be playing tonight. Take the opponent, and so eventually,
once the information comes out that Lebron isn't playing, the
sportsbooks will adjust their odds and compensate for that, of course,
But if you're able to place a bet before that

(35:49):
information is publicly known, before the sportsbooks have know this
and have changed their odds, then you can score big
on this.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
And so that guy was arresident.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
I mean, this is this is this is a big,
big scandal, and I think it could have implications for
some of the betting apps, because look, they're not gonna
they want to clean. They don't they want to play
fair and square because they make a bunch of money,
all right, they don't need to cheat in order to

(36:19):
get money out of people fandual DraftKings, that kind of stuff.
So they want this to be as acceptable and as
wide use as possible, so they don't need to cheat.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
They're victims in this of anything.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
But what I think you might see is lawmakers in
various states saying, hold on a second, this is rigged
against regular people who are playing this, and there's a
lot of opportunity for organized crime, for scam artists in this,
and so we need to legislate against whether it's against

(36:55):
sports gambling completely, or whether it's versus prop bets, which
these these these sports books make a ton of money
off of these things. The parlays, same game parlays, the
prop bets, all these so he.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Can go to the parlays. I love the parlays.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Well, it would be like same game parlays would really
be more that like just regular oh that kind of stuff.
But but some of these things, you know, does so
and so have so many points to so and so
score a touchdown to so and so do this, then
you know that's considered a prop bet.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Yeah, they are a prop bet? Was is it going
to hit the field goal? Is the field goals thing
going to fall over?

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (37:32):
That's more like a novelty problem. Oh oh all right,
So no, these are a prop bet?

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Is is anything like does so and so score more
than eighteen points tonight in this in this basketball game?
So they may legislate against some of that in order
to try to deter people from rigging the system like
they are. But this was really really organized, and I

(37:59):
think we're just scratching the surface of this, and it
should make anybody who bets on sports a little bit nervous.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
You're not nervous. I'm putting more wai in.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Well, look winning these these DraftKings, NFL bets that we've
been doing, these parlays.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
He might be he might be part of this conspiracy.
We should call it tip in exactly. Yeah, and they
should check his record.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
We know is his.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Ability and knowledge when it comes to sports. So how
does he keep winning? Inside?

Speaker 7 (38:32):
Man, he's part of this conspiracy, the biggest sports guy
in the show.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Now, that's it. That's true. It's true. That's whatever. I'm winning.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
So this is a really really interesting story and we'll
see how it shakes out. This is going to take
some time to shake out. But boy, very very very
serious accusations being made against these these people. They've also apparently,
let's see, somebody told me that they picked up what
is it. Somebody said that they picked up a referee

(39:01):
today too. I don't know if they arrested a referee
or whatever. I don't know, but the referees, sure, we've
seen referees that have been shady. There's a a Netflix
documentary or maybe a thirty for thirty documentary or whatever.
There was some of that, you know, documentary made on
one of those guys in the NBA that was doing this.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
But you know, the.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Referees can definitely impact a game, and they are susceptible
to outside influence from organized crime or other people, or
just their own creed. So we got a big problem here.
I believe I've got to take a break. Eight six
six year over is our number. Eight six six nine
sixty seven six eight three seven. We'll be right back

(39:44):
with Shizy the news next.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
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