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October 21, 2025 38 mins
Trump is thinking of commuting Diddy's sentence. A new drug that claims to help non-verbal autistic people. Hackers try to hold BBC ransom. Would you sell your company out for a cash payout? Rover received a handwritten letter trying to scam him.  

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now back to the show as he is coming up
in a moment, what do you have on the way, Doug.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I love stories like this, actors who were paid a
ton of money to be in films to do pretty
much nothing. I'll tell you that story next.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
All right, we'll get to that in just a moment.
Brandy in Pennsylvania is listening to yesterday show and she says,
my daughter sent this to me a couple of weeks ago.
She said, this man is on my porch and wants
to come inside. There's a picture that that. She said

(00:34):
it again, it's like the guy with the hoodie and
it looks a little disheveled, but it's your actual front porch.
And then there's guy's on there and that she goes,
I threw on my shoes and was headed over there,
and then she said, mom, it's a joke.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Why are these kids doing this funny?

Speaker 4 (00:56):
I actually freaked my daughter out yesterday because I took
a picture of the first one we showed, because it
honestly looked so much like my ex that I took
a picture of it and sent it to her, and
then she was like.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
What the hell, Like why why your dad is your dad?

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Is just he's on the skins, he's down and out,
and I think he's I think he's on smack.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
She said she was freaked out because I looked so
much like him.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
I tried with my wife, what'd you try? I tried.

Speaker 5 (01:26):
We have painters coming over to fix a ceiling in
our bedroom, and and she was she was at work,
and I did that. I sent a picture of the
couch or couch whatever, and I I put into uh.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
I think, I used Gemini.

Speaker 5 (01:41):
You'll put somebody disheveled on my couch, barefoot.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
And you're like the painter showed up, but look at him. No,
I said.

Speaker 5 (01:47):
I went to the bathroom and it came out and
one of the painters was asleep on the couch.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
The one I do, She goes, You're not gonna get
me again again.

Speaker 5 (01:57):
You got her before. I got her once with a
wreck in our attic. Once it was like it was
an that what's that?

Speaker 3 (02:05):
What's the uh? A minute? Reality?

Speaker 5 (02:08):
Or they had like a reccordon you can put anywhere
in your house whatever, put one in the.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
In the attic, and it got her.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
That got her, That got her.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
This one did not. Because she knows my now a
real emergency is going to take place. Yeah, the boy
who cried.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
I'm locked up and somebody somebody broke in. They handcuffed
me and they're robbing us. All good wan not falling
for it, dumb ass.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
Yeah, check GPT wouldn't let me do it. It didn't
like the I use the word homeless.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
I guess.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
And the first of all, you used homeless. You gotta
know how well then I described it.

Speaker 5 (02:43):
I go, you know, disheveled, dirty, Put Jeffrey on my couch.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
That showed up in those It knows exactly what you're
looking for.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Sushi?

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Are you ready for the shi is he? Yeah? Here
we go, kit is shusy rolls morning glory.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
So we are in day twenty one of the government
shut down. Both parties are just facing a ton of
pressure to resolve this.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Hundreds of thousands of.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Government workers still furloughed. These workers are not currently receiving paychecks,
but are expecting to get back pay after the shutdown ends.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Question, I these people who are not getting a paycheck,
how do you expect people? I get it, you're going
to get the back pay, but that's too little, too late.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Need money for d eat?

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, people can't. Most people live paycheck to paycheck. A're
pretty hardydamn clothes, right, and so you know, it's a
luxury to have money saved up. And I saw a
comment from somebody go, all these people should have money
saved up. Granted it.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
We need more saving.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Everyone needs more savings in this country. Most people don't
have it because as they're spending money on Netflix and
fit the other they're yeah, that's good, but yes, people
could be more response myself could be more responsible with money.
But the fact of the matter is most people live.
Many people live paycheck to paycheck, and they don't anticipate

(04:17):
being out of a paycheck for this when they still
have a job through no fault of their own. I
saw that in airports they're doing food drives for the
TSA workers, food bag brink canned food before you go
through the security checkpoints or our TSA agents can eat.

Speaker 6 (04:35):
Well.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Meanwhile, the ts TSA agents they're they're there. All of
these staffing shortages at some of these airports are causing
more delays for passengers. It's like affective, Yeah, there's an
increased number of air traffic controllers. They're like, well, screw
this and they're calling off sick just to protest the shutdown,
which then starts to affect you don't have enough workers,

(04:56):
and then all of the delays, and it's just it's crazy.
So D twenty one, why are you smiling over there?

Speaker 1 (05:02):
I'm smiling because this is a good one. There's a
guy that sent this. He was in the parking garage
and he took a picture of his coworker's truck and
he used AI. He said, hey, do you know this
guy working on your truck? Oh no, here's the picture
and it's just like a guy with a jack and
a tire off. The guy panicked and he's like, no, no, no,

(05:24):
it's just a joke. Jesus Christ, what is what's the
world coming to? Oh my god, this is the technology
we have at our fingertips. We have the greatest technology
ever potentially ever invented. And this is the kind of
stuff we use it for in sex, Yeah, sex and
pranking people.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
All right, go on this.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Ken View, the American company that makes Thilan All they're
pushing back against an FDA proposal to change the painkillers
safety label.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
The updated label would.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Mention a possible link between thailan al using tilanyl use
during pregnancy and diagnosis of autism or ADHD children. Many
credible health experts agree that the science does not support
that claim.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
So the companies like, we're not putting.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
This label on our product when you don't have scientific proof,
how can you.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Of course they're going to say that because they have
a vested interest to not put that on there. That
being said, I think are is scant evidence of a link,
But I would say before you even do that, do
more research, do an exhaustive, extensive research on this.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
And let's well, the generic name for the painkiller is
a seat of minifin. It's a painkiller fever reducer, and
they say that it's one of the most studied medicines.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
In history, So we have studied this.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
So they're pushing back against that FDA proposal to change
and make it a label for that.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
All right.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
So there's new analysis that looked into airlines. But the
worst customer status faction worldwide. Okay, So that includes complaints
like cancelations, delays, lost baggage, safety, poor customer service, and
poor traveling experience.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
So they crunch the numbers.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
And they put out a dissatisfaction index of the world's
most disliked airlines, So you're going to.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Be pretty surprised. I got ten here. You want the
top five, I'll give you the top ten.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Give me what was the one that you said, Ryanair
got to be on there?

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Okay, tenth place? British airways. Have you ever flown them?
I have, yeah, ninth place. I've never even heard of
this whiz Air.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
That is also a low budget I think that's in Europe.
I've seen their planes a few times. Are kind of
purplish wizz I.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Think, yeah, what's the airline that you're like, I'm never
telling anyone my secret?

Speaker 3 (07:50):
You still haven't told it. Everyone knows now it only
goes to one place?

Speaker 1 (07:56):
What is it? Now? They go to three different cities
from New York. It's a what's it? I don't want
people to overwhelm this airline. It goes to Paris. La
Company is the name of it. And I don't know,
but what kind of great deals they have now? But
they were it's all like live flat seats the whole plane,

(08:16):
so it's they all turn into beds, and it was
it was I haven't flown them in a while, but
I've flown them numerous times, and it was always a
very good value.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Eighth place for the worst airlines most dislike eighth place
Scandinavian Airline, seventh place Aero Mexico, sixth place Air Asia,
fifth place Ryanair that's the one that you would say,
fourth place Air France, third place United Airlines. Really yeah,

(08:49):
I was really surprised by that.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Second place.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Frontier Spear Airlines is going to be in first place.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
You didn't even make the top time.

Speaker 7 (08:57):
No.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Number one, most is like.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Airline most disliked airline Delta.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
I like it, I fly it quite often. Yet Blue
Southwest I'm an awards a rewards member. Who is it?
American American Airlines? What I was really surprised.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
We are the airline where I flew at three o'clock
in the morning the other day. But no, I like
American Airlines most disliked.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
All Right, The Toronto Blue Jays are headed back to
the World Series for the first time in more than
three decades. They beat Seattle last night four to three
Game seven. So now we have the Blue Jays facing
the National League champion, which was the Los Angeles Dodgers,
and that will begin Friday night.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
All right.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Also, sports news for you. We have NBA returning today.
So on television, we have the series premiere of Coast
to Coast Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
That's going to be on NBC.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Back to back NBA games from opposite sides of the country,
with the first game starting around a pm Eastern and
the second one around ap M Pacific. First you have
Oklahoma City Thunder hosting the Houston Rockets and then the
Lakers hosting Golden State Warriors.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
If you're I don't want to do that one, all right.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Actors who were paid a lot of money in movies
but really didn't do much. So sources say that Michael Keaton,
he was paid two million dollars for a cameo in
the Background movie.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
That movie never got wrong. Now they they write off
they paid him.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Benizio del Toro got five million dollars for American Gangster
and he wasn't.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Even in it. The movie got delayed and then.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
He was replaced, but he had a pay or play deal,
meaning he got paid.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
No matter what. Million right totally.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Sean Connery he got two hundred and fifty thousand dollars
for one day of filming in the movie Robin Hood,
Prince of the thieves the end scene.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
He originally wanted a million, and they said we'll give
you two hundred and fifty, and that's what he got.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Kiared Leno got seven million dollars for Suicide Squad, which
meant he earned a million dollars for every minute of
screen That was one.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
Of the worst films ever made ever.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Seven million for seven minutes. That's craziness. Robert Jack, Wait,
what movie was Suicide Squad?

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (11:22):
That was the first time Jared leto is the Joker. Yeah,
like a weird tattooed joker. But it looked that. I
remember the trailer looked good. The trailer made the movie
look like it was going to be fantastic.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
But I don't remember. I did remember everyone hated it,
said it really sucked.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Robert Downey Junior got ten million dollars for eight minutes
of screen time in Spider Man Homecoming. And then finally,
Vin Diesel reportedly made between ten and twenty five million
for being the voice of Groot in the Marvel movies,
even between ten and twenty five million.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
And the only thing that he says, I am Groot.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
He once said, we are Groot in in a weird voice.
You can't even tell Tim.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah, he made all that money?

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Are you sure that this isn't fake news? Come Bob,
I'm telling you.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
And finally, the President is thinking about commuting Diddy's sentence.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
He's considering all of this.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
TMZ is reporting that Trump is mulling the decision, although
some White House staff are urging him not to the
source says that Trump will do what he wants.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Well, aren't so, why why are we doing this with
Diddy or anybody else? They're convicted A Jerry's convicted him,
They were convicted France squirk.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
He just commuted the sense of that.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
They didn't just liar George Santos, who is a complete
and total fraudster, scammer, stealing money, a bad guy, all
around bad guy.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
But he always voted Republican. That's why he did it.
That's that's that's a quote he say.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Let him out of jail after he's been convicted, and
he admitted.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
To all sorts of various crimes.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
And I just it is it's wildly inappropriated. He I
look the same thing when when Biden pardoned Hunter Biden
I also wildly inappropriate?

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Sure did he is serving a fifty month prison sentence
and two interstate prostitution convictions. His legal team filed a
notice of appeal of his conviction.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
I think that they should do this like they should
do this like they do challenges in the NFL. You know,
you can challenge a call, but you only have a
couple of those per game that you can do. And
I think the president should only be allowed to commute
the sentence or pardon X number of people per year

(13:52):
or per term. That's it, and it should be a
small number. And that way, it should be like a
brought out price. Yes, that's just I feel like.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Letting this dude off. He lets because Lane Maxwell out.
Will anybody care?

Speaker 1 (14:05):
You can't do that. He cannot. He will not do that.
He will not let glayinne Maxwell. I'm not think you
gonna do it. No, No, even Trump realizes that the
blowback from that would be off the charge. He's not
gonna do it. Not gonna do it.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
I want to see it like Hunger Games. He could
pick five people and they all go into a dome
and you gotta fight to the.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Death to act versus illegal immigrants. Yeah, I think Christine
Holm could be like the referee.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
I like that idea.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
All right, go on, that's the shizzy on rovers Morning
Glory so much.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Good you'll want to bend over and kiss our ass.

Speaker 6 (14:41):
Watch live right there on your stupid smart boat.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Just search for Roberts.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Morning Glory in the app store or Google Play.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Rick, You're on Rover's Morning Glory. Good morning, Rick, Good morning,
Hey good.

Speaker 7 (15:00):
I think it's that they're all getting their pay. I
don't think congres should even get their pay. I mean,
that's like, are vacation right. If I lose my job,
I have to go for unemployment.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
No, these guys, these TSA workers, these air traffic controllers,
they're still going into work, Rick, But they're not getting paid.

Speaker 7 (15:21):
I would do.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
That's why they're calling off.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
That's why many are calling off sick. And yes, yes,
but look, some people have a dedication to their job.
Some people want, you know, in order to get that
back pay. I'm sure you have to show up. If
you don't show up, you probably don't get the back pay, obviously,
but this is not a great situation. This is not
they They need to solve this problem. Democrats, Republicans whoever,

(15:46):
get over it, Get over this stupid Obamaca whatever. I
don't even know what the hell this, this whole hold
up is over. It's totally unrelated this Obamacare stuff. And
I just this is it's embarrassing. It's embarrassing that our
government is so dysfunctional that they can't get this together.

(16:14):
Animal says is a part in different than a commuted sentence.
It is a pardon, I think, means like it didn't.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Even happen, right, It could be getting one of them
is you have.

Speaker 6 (16:24):
To admit you did something wrong. One of them you don't.
I think you have to go yes I did that,
but now I'm free. The commuted sentence mute is just
that the sentence is over.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah, So if you were sentenced, I think, would you
say that. I think it was five or seven years.
She had four years. I think George Santos was I
think fifty months. I think so about four years. He's
doing a four year sentence and commuting the sins just
means let him out today. He has to you relations
him today. Sure he's only been in there for a year.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Let him out.

Speaker 6 (16:53):
And so you see they keep part in the January
sixth protesters. But I remember, I know there's a couple
processors are upset because, oh, maybe I was wrong in
the pardon, you still have to admit fault, and they
were upset saying, I don't want to have to admit fault.
Even though you pardon my sentence, I didn't do anything wrong,
so it still I shouldn't have been pardoned. It should

(17:16):
have been something else, like like sponge.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
Yeah, in a way. I don't know what the correct
word would be for it or whatever, I guess, but
all right.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
You talked about the the Thailand all and they want
to put a warning label on this or who wants it?

Speaker 3 (17:39):
The government wants to put the warning label on this, and.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Thiland All's bankers are like, no, this, you don't have
the scientific proof of this. But I did see a
story made me wonder about this. If you have an
autistic kid that you could take this?

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Is it? Is it?

Speaker 1 (17:58):
I want to say? Is it follic as folo? What
is it?

Speaker 3 (18:01):
What is the.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
What does it?

Speaker 3 (18:05):
What does it do? What's it supposed to do for
it to take it?

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Well, they have a specific medication and I think it's uh.
It treats It's called lou covorin and that helps autistic children.
Who have a foll late or follate efficiency whatever that is.
That's a shortage of bean eyem in the brain and.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
That's for general cell growth in development, and it helps
prevent birth effects.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
I was reading this story.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Now, I'm sure this won't work for everybody, but it
does give some people hope if they have an autistic
child who's nonverbal. So I was reading this story about
this woman whose kid was completely you know, normal whatever.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
He's growing up.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
He's until about one, about a year old, and then
then just stops talking.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
You know, he's learning a few words here and there.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
But then just drops off, stops talking whatever, nonverbal autistic kid.
They try everything to cure this kid. Of course, is
not gonna you know, it's not working, but they still
send them to speech therapy and all this stuff, and
then they start giving them this medication. There was a
doctor doing a clinical trial of this lou covor in

(19:18):
or however you pronounce this, and the kids started taking it. Boom,
within a couple of months, the kid starts talking.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Yeah, And is it folic acid?

Speaker 1 (19:30):
I don't know, It's something luke cor foreign calcium tablets,
whatever the hell that is. But it treats that folly
deficiency and the parent, I think it's the mother in
this article is saying, one of the things that you
don't realize is that these kids who are nonverbal, they
are still processing everything completely normally, all right, so they

(19:55):
just can't like there's something like almost like a wire
was cutting their brain where they can think it, but
they can't say it.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
And then the anger.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
So like my nephew's daughter has this and she's getting better,
but mostly nonverbal, and she can't get the words out,
but she knows what's going on, and so then the
anger hits and you can't because she can't get out of.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Her brain to tell you. Well, think about this.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
So imagine if you have this eight year old kid
who hasn't talked ever, Yeah, and then you give this
drug and it goes it allows them to start talking. Now,
they said. The mother said, this is also because of
that speech therapy. You have to give them the tools
that if you take this drug and it does reverse
their nonverbalness.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
But you know what the kid did.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
The kid just just felt like the first few months
of talking, just complaining about everything, just like my sister
is such a bitch, takes all my toys and I
hate macaroni and cheese whiting keep like. It was just
a NonStop flood of all the grievances that this kid
had from eight years of not being able to speak, yeah,

(21:11):
being able to complain and forcing a hack achieve because
I hate this stuff.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
So they they also had to train this kid to say, Okay, hey, listen,
So conversation now you're able to finally speak, so conversation
is more like, Okay, now that we've let you vent
for a couple of months, now a conversation has to
be more of a back and forth where yeah, you
listen to me, and I listened to you, and and
so on and so forth. But I the only reason

(21:36):
I bring that up is you mentioned this this, this,
this thing with the seed of benefit. But there is
perhaps hope, maybe maybe Robert Kennedy, maybe he's maybe he's right,
Maybe we just need this follic acid or whatever the
hell this stuff is, however you pronounce it. But there
is hope for people who you think because you kind

(21:57):
of are like, oh, well, they're nonverbal, autistic. Much you
can do, but maybe there is something they can unlock
their brain and get them going even if they're like
thirty years old, It's like something they could just boom.
Imagine all the complaints the person would have after thirty years.
I'm not being able to speak, only imagine. Yeah, I've
got to take a quick break. Eight sixty six. Your

(22:20):
rover is our number. Eight sixty six, nine sixty seven,
six eighty three seven.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Hang on, Very's morning, Glory. I'm curious how you guys

(22:51):
would react to this.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
What you would do you weren't for a big corporation.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
iHeartMedia and Entertainment, the world's number one audio company. There
was a I'm curious how you would react to this
situation that happened to a guy who works for BBC,
which is not Big Black all right, not that, No, No,
it's the British Broadcasting Company or corporation or whatever.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
The hell they are anyway. So this guy works for BBC.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Reporter or whatever, and he gets an email and it says, hey, listen,
we want to give you a once in a lifetime opportunity.
We want if you could give us your credentials access
to your PC. We're going to infect your PC. You'll

(23:46):
never be implicated in this. We're going to infect your
PC and get into BBC's network, and we're gonna launch
a ransomware attack. And I'm paraphrasing all of this, Well,
we're gonna launch a ransomware attack against BBC. They have
a bunch of money, and we will cut you in

(24:07):
on fifteen percent of any ransom payment that we receive
if you give us access to your computer.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
Fifteen percent of what am iu?

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Well, it depends on however much ransom they can get
out of BBC. What are they thinking, Well, huh no, No,
they're talking big bucks because there was you know, twenty million,
five million, one hundred million whatever. They're going to try

(24:37):
and get as much. You imagine if you took down
the entire their entire operation. Imagine if is it one
hundred million? Okay, yes, yeah, fifteen percent? Jeez.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
He's like, I'm in Yeah, that's that's fifteen million. Wow,
are you're breaking the law.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
He's already selling his password to the highest bidder. Charlie
at roverradio dot com big boobs ninety.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
What absolutely, So what's your question? Would I do this? Yes?
Would you do? Absolutely? It's illegal?

Speaker 6 (25:05):
I would, And as luckily as this guy could probably do,
I would I would as I'm doing it, write a
story as I'm doing it to make it look like no, no, no,
I'm doing a story on how ransomware works as I'm
doing the thing. So if I get caught, I go, no, no, no.
I was going undercover to try to show you.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
If you have a story ready to go, I have
a story and it got out of hand, it went
too far or something, and I go, oh my god.
I didn't.

Speaker 6 (25:30):
I thought I was just helping. I thought I was
just doing something that would make it very interesting story.
Oh absolutely, who cares about it? Fifteen million? Who cares
about their job that much?

Speaker 1 (25:40):
I do? I mean, even if it's not one hundred
million might be too much. But they were saying, we
could probably get tens of millions of dollars if we
can infiltrate it BBC.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
So even you know, twenty million dollars is going to be.

Speaker 6 (25:53):
I don't have to do anything. I just have three
million or something. I left my password out one day.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yeah, you've got my password. But what if they would
you do a rover? Nobody's getting hurt, yeah, but you're
bringing the getting hurt in person. A person's not getting hurt.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
People will get hurt. So if if BBC or iHeart
or whoever has to pay twenty five million dollars in ransomware,
insurance covers that, now they're gonna it's going to end
up with job cuts somewhere.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
Insurance cover.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
I know, we don't have too many people left to
cut in almost everyone.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Insurance will cover. You're not gonna hurt anybody. Insurance is
you're going to get fired. Yeah, you're gonna have to
give a million dollars. No, you're going to have to
give that money back. Oh, it's gone. I don't have it.
I never even I don't know what you're talking about.
What are you talking about? See, I don't believe you.
You're not that good of an actor.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
What are you?

Speaker 3 (26:46):
I don't even know what password? Why this is horrible.
I've also I'm just letting you know I've quit. I'm quitting
the job now. In that simple chase my phone number.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
But I found that to be interesting that that is
the method that these hackers tried to use. And this guy,
of course then writes an article about it. But we've
heard of other hacks and attacks that have happened in
the past and it's usually social engineering. It's usually like
MGM resorts. I think it was MGM. Weren't they hacked

(27:23):
in Las Vegas had brought down I remember nobody could
check into their rooms and all their slot machines were disabled.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
I mean, it costs them.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
And I think they ended up paying like one hundred
million dollars to the ransomware people or whatever. He's big bucks.
But social engineering got those people in. So they would
call somebody at the that works for MGM and they go, hey,
this is the MGM help desk here, and it looks
like somebody's trying to hack into your email. Let's get

(27:50):
you let's get your password changed or something, and then
they walk you through the but they actually steal your password.
They're they're doing that, and so I've never heard of
them just straight up asking somebody, hey, why don't you
just give me your credentials, let me in and we'll
cut you in on the ransom And by the way,
they're criminals. How could you trust them, Charlie, How would

(28:11):
you trust the person who's willing to do this that's
illegal attack to then make good. I'm paying you the
fifteen percent.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
Because I don't us haven't lost anything, So what do
I care?

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Potentially your job once they find out.

Speaker 6 (28:27):
If they find out. But good, you just go I
don't know what you're talking. I have no idea.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
That's on some weird website and I put my password in. Oh,
I use the same password for everything.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
My bad. Well, well, the FBI would would or somebody.
I think we're talking about Scotland Yard those jokes, M
I five, M I six, somebody. But the here, the
FBI would get involved and they would go, oh wait
a second.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
We went through everyone's emails.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
And we found out that the Chocolately was contacted by
the hacker.

Speaker 6 (29:01):
They had my email. They were emailing themselves.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Ah, they hacked and sent themselves kind of like that email.
You ever get that email and they make it seem
as if it's sent from your account, and they're like,
you've you've been infiltrated for months. I've been inside your system,
and I've been watching you on your webcam. Boy, you
really like dirty materials.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
See what you're doing with you.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
I have stream.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Grabs I like the one I got goes. I have
screen grabs of your of you with your naked face
and it's next to the material that you're watching on
these pornographic websites side by side, so they can actually
watch my own face. Yeah, as they're seeing what what
I'm watching.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Your wife doesn't need to know what you're doing. I
got one of.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Those letters I told you guys about it on the show.
I got an actual letter in my mailbox that was
along those lines of that, you know, I know you've
been cheating. I have the evidence you've been cheating on
your wife, and I'm willing to get rid of all

(30:12):
the evidence if you give me X amount of dollars
in bitcoin and here's the address, and it walks you
through the whole thing. And there was no postmark on
it either, which was also very strange. And so I
look at this, I go, what, what in the world
is this?

Speaker 3 (30:32):
How did somebody know I've been cheating on my way?

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Wait hand no. I immediately saw that, and I go,
what kind of scam is this? And I learned that
somehow prisoners were actually doing this. I don't know how
this I don't remember exactly because this is a few
years ago, but somehow prisoners were sending this stuff out
or they were I don't know, they were behind it.

(30:56):
Somehow how they would get this in your mailbox without
being postmarked.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
I'm not sure did you track it ever? Did you
contact anyone? Or no? You just know what am I
going to do?

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Call the police? No, my wife is the one who
got it. But the mail she goes, what's this?

Speaker 3 (31:10):
Anything you want to do? Immediately?

Speaker 1 (31:12):
The scam, total scam. But I guess they just figured
that if you do this, out of one hundred letters
that sent you get sent up maybe one percent, maybe
one person sure pays this off is actually cheating on

(31:32):
their wife and.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
It's stupid enough to put it in off. Yeah, nice
homes in their mailboxes.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
And I don't know how they got it into my
mail into my mailbox.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
That's a I don't remember. I remember. I looked into this,
like how did they do this? And somehow? I remember
prisoners were behind it?

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Was it this new not this this isn't a new house,
but the old house?

Speaker 1 (31:52):
No, No, there's this house that I'm in.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
A you have an open mailbox? Were you put stuff in?

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yeah? But somebody would have to drive there. How's it
pre that are going to drive there and put that
in my mailbox?

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Have people on the outside? But what a completely ineffective
way of doing that.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
And also.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
That would be the last way I would want.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
To do it, because you could be captured the vehicle
you're driving, captured on somebody's security or something like that.

Speaker 5 (32:19):
No, but.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
So I just that would be a huge risk. I
think you should actually mail it. But how you could
mail it and not have it postmarked? I mean, if
they had a man on the inside, a postal inspector
perhaps maybe the Postmaster general is behind it goes all
the way to the top. I don't know, playing them
off with cigarettes. And somehow prisoners were behind all of this.

(32:44):
I do remember that, but I could see like old
people I guess, falling for that or something.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
I suppose, but that's true, But I still I don't know.
I don't trust anything like that anymore. How, I would
never want to create a paper trail, though, if I
was the hacker or the person trying to get the ransom,
no paper trail. This should be all verbal. It'd be like,
let me take off your shirt. I want to make

(33:11):
sure you're not wearing a wire. I would be not
put it typing this stuff out? Here is my password?
Give me fifteen percent. That's so stupid. A digital trail
or a real paper trail.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Yeah, I and you would never trust the person to
cut you in on that fifteen percent.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
There's no way.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yeah, I'm going to.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
Take account with half of the money in it already,
like there would have to be some stipulations, Yeah, an
offshore account.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
I I wonder if any of this AWS stuff was hackers.
I saw yesterday that it might be China that did
it to us.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
What does AWS stand for? Again? Amazon Web Services?

Speaker 1 (33:50):
OK?

Speaker 3 (33:51):
So they basically, I mean, they have.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Probably one hundred and fifty different products that they have
as part of aw US, and it handles various back
end operations of websites and apps and things like that.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
You name it. They have a service that will do
it for you.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
And so when that goes down, a lot of websites
and apps and things depend on those services. So if
AWS goes down, a bunch of other things go down
as well. And I saw yesterday that China might actually
have been behind this attack as retribution for I don't know,
something or whatever, tariffs or something. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
That's all speculation, but who knows. What do I have
to give away today?

Speaker 6 (34:39):
Do shee?

Speaker 1 (34:40):
What do I have over here. You have passes Sonic Temple. Okay,
well we're gonna wrap the show up, give some stuff away.
I have a pair of four day general admission weekend
passes to Sonic Temple. It returns to Historic Rue Stadium

(35:00):
in Columbus, Ohio, May fourteenth through the seventeenth, four full
days of music from bands like My Chemical Romance, Sepultura,
Devil Driver, Cradle of Filth, We came As Romans, Coheed
and Cambria, and many many more. Purchase your tickets and
get more info at Sonic Temple dot com or win
them if you call her thirty right now, eight sixty

(35:22):
six you're over eight six six nine six seven six
eight three seven. Who is this, Charlie?

Speaker 4 (35:28):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (35:29):
This Cradle Silf Cradle, Filth Mountains to cover song? What's

(35:51):
the song?

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Let's yeah? What are they covering that? You don't know?
Would I know the song? Did Mike.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Snitcher?

Speaker 3 (36:08):
You know? Copa Cabana?

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Close? Well, now that now that you've asked me, and
I'm waiting for them to start singing again, But I

(36:35):
don't know, all right?

Speaker 3 (36:35):
What song are they comfort? This is Iron Maiden? How
lo be that name?

Speaker 2 (36:40):
For?

Speaker 3 (36:40):
It was close? Death Box. Death Box is going to
be there too.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
So cool.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
That's really cool. What happens on stage when they play,
well by the creator of the cartoon, it plays guitar. Well,
I know what small is that?

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Who?

Speaker 3 (37:00):
I don't know what death Clock the holgram up. I
don't know what is death Clock. It's a cartoon. Oh,
it's just a cartoon. It's a death metal band.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
The band is.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
The show is called Metal Aqualise. It's awesome.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
Yes, yes, movies as well.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
Yes, here's the music video. I guess they've released. The
show's good. He's like a really good guitarist. He's amazing.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
He I'm pretty sure he performs multiple artists in the episode,
like he's the musician behind everything.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
All right, well, you're gonna enjoy this. It's Sonic Temple
Caller thirty eight six six year over. We also have
the aftermath.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
Jesus Christ, you're gonna seizure, Charlie. Here's the band.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Yes, oh my god, this is a seizure inducing You
got to cut that off. Seriously. I was gonna watch this.
People put r mg T me up. When they're driving.
I tell them not to kill people.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
Charlie. It's a great show. The music is awesome. Okay,
that is enough. I gotta thank you.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
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(38:33):
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