April 15, 2025 • 6 mins
As the Mavericks future hangs in the balance, the Ben and Skin show discusses the events of today and why this story is so intense for so many people in DFW.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, it's the beIN In Skin Show ninety seven
point one The Eagle. Now is a good time to
remind you about Sunset at McKinney Amphitheater because they have
been hosting the MAVs Minute all year long. You can
own a piece of dallas most luxurious Amphitheater. Go to
Sunset Texas dot com for information on how to own
a fire pit suite or join the Apeman Club opening
in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Secure your suite now.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
So we've been talking about this impromptu press conference that
was kind of I guess it's fair to say hastily
called last night. Media outlets were notified that in less
than twenty four hours they could come to a press conference.
It was held at the American Airline Center. It was
limited media availability. They targeted people, they invited them. Nobody
(00:43):
on this show was invited or from the station was invited.
It was the major news outlets, Dallas Wearing News, ESPN,
the local affiliates DLS.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Tim Cato was.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
There, Athletic, the Athletic and so it was limited access
and it was Rick Way else and who's the CEO?
And it was Nico Harrison, the GM of the team
who made the very unpopular Luke Donchez trade, and by
his accounts, you know, hardly anybody knew about that trade
when he made it, so all of it seems to
fall on him in terms of the blame, and they
(01:15):
answer questions. Tim McMahon's got a great account of it.
We've been looking at Mike Curtis from Dallas Morning News.
We've been looking at his some of the quotes from
his account of it, and I think the thing that
really stands out and looking at these quotes is that
Nico is doubling down on what his vision of the
team is and what the style of basketball he wanted
(01:38):
to play. Everyone who was in that meeting came out soing, well,
defense wins championships because he said it over and over
and over, and you know, been according to the account
I'm looking at is the Mike Curtis story on this.
You know, he basically, I'm you know, kind of saying
what he said, and so I'm not reading a long quote,
(01:59):
but he believes that if we had seen the healthy
version of the team, that team would have been really,
really good, and a lot of the fan bases vitriol
would have been dampened down because it's hard to get
angry when your team is kicking ass.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
It would have helped.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
That half that he played before he got hurt with
Kyrie was awesome.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
It would have helped.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
But still the biggest problem to me is you traded
a twenty five year old global icon and you got
six years older or seven years old whatever, right with
ad a guy who's been hurt like his whole career.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
So you know there's problems with it all over the place.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I do know this if by having this press conference,
if you even call it that, to me, that's an
indication that Nico Harrison is staying that they're not going
to part ways with him, because you wouldn't roll him
out there today and then part ways with him in
a couple days of your season ends.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Well, let me say this as you just add on
to what you're saying. He was asked if he sees
himself as the GM moving forward. He said, you have
three years left on my contract. I see myself finishing
it out. In terms of Dallas, this is our home,
my family, they're going to finish school here, this is
where we live.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
So this is where I'm living, right and I heard.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I was listening to the ticket Im Oway here and
they were talking about whether they somebody on the ticket
was saying they thought he would resign. I'm like, what
what world are you living in where you think he's
going to resign.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, he's doubling down. He uh.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
And We've talked about this on our show many times.
I've told you guys, he loves Anthony Davis. And I
actually thought that he would try to trade Kyrie Irving
for Anthony Davis. That's kind of how I thought that
thing was going to go. But obviously he had other
ideas in mind. But he doubled down on that in
this several times, saying, you know, there he was asked about, well,
(03:44):
what about everybody saying you didn't get enough return on
the trade, And what he's saying is Anthony Davis is
he says, when you look at the trade, we targeted
ad with our philosophy of defense wins championships. We wanted
a two way player to lead our team, and that
was Anthony Davis. Everyone's going to have their criticism. I'm
not sure what Mark Cuban said, but that's a better
(04:06):
question left for him. We got what we wanted and
so again, like when we've had all these conversations, be like,
I don't understand this. It doesn't make sense. I'm like,
I get that. It doesn't make sense to you. It
makes sense to him. That's who we wanted, that's the
style of basketball he envisions them playing.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
That's the team that he builds, and just so happened
at this moment in time with the new ownership group.
There were no checks and balances, right, there was no
one else to talk to. So this is what one
guy wanted and there was nobody to stop him because
any anybody else who could have vetoed the deal was gone,
was out of the picture.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Ja Kid had a good relationship with AD two, you know.
So I'm very curious. I mean, that's my like, if
you could find out anything like how behind closed doors
or how much did Jay Kid know about it or
want this deal to happen or did he not?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
You know, that's what I really want to know.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
My thought is there's no way he I mean, I
don't know double negative. I think he knew. I think
he probably had to say. And I think if you're
a political person and you're in a political environment, you
just kind of get in line once you see the
way things are going to go.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I could be dead wrong on that, but my thought
is a tiny, a tiny group had a vote and
it was Nico leading the way. And I'll bet Jay
Kid was one of those guys who could vote.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
But I don't know that. I'm just throwing that out there. Well,
and I will.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
We'll wrap this up pretty quick and get back into
it later in the show. If ja Kid was in
on it, it doesn't be hoof because of the volatile nature.
It doesn't behove everybody to let Jakid know that because
he's got to go back in that locker room and
those guys have to trust him.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
So if if Jake Kidd was like, yeah, man, I
want to get rid of you know, Luca, you know,
they were probably like, okay, well we'll just you know,
nobody knows about this, so let's leave it that way
so you can still have the trust and control of
the locker room.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, yeah, who knows? Who knows?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
But I think more will come out. I mean, the
Mavericks may have been getting ahead of something by doing this.
I don't even know what to make of all this. Anyways,
we'll get back into it later, because Kyrie spoke last
night and we have the audio and it's juicy, juicy
ju say, all right, coming up next a cat fight
in space. That's right now. We're gonna ratch it up.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
The fun
All right, it's the beIN In Skin Show ninety seven
point one The Eagle. Now is a good time to
remind you about Sunset at McKinney Amphitheater because they have
been hosting the MAVs Minute all year long. You can
own a piece of dallas most luxurious Amphitheater. Go to
Sunset Texas dot com for information on how to own
a fire pit suite or join the Apeman Club opening
in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Secure your suite now.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
So we've been talking about this impromptu press conference that
was kind of I guess it's fair to say hastily
called last night. Media outlets were notified that in less
than twenty four hours they could come to a press conference.
It was held at the American Airline Center. It was
limited media availability. They targeted people, they invited them. Nobody
(00:43):
on this show was invited or from the station was invited.
It was the major news outlets, Dallas Wearing News, ESPN,
the local affiliates DLS.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Tim Cato was.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
There, Athletic, the Athletic and so it was limited access
and it was Rick Way else and who's the CEO?
And it was Nico Harrison, the GM of the team
who made the very unpopular Luke Donchez trade, and by
his accounts, you know, hardly anybody knew about that trade
when he made it, so all of it seems to
fall on him in terms of the blame, and they
(01:15):
answer questions. Tim McMahon's got a great account of it.
We've been looking at Mike Curtis from Dallas Morning News.
We've been looking at his some of the quotes from
his account of it, and I think the thing that
really stands out and looking at these quotes is that
Nico is doubling down on what his vision of the
team is and what the style of basketball he wanted
(01:38):
to play. Everyone who was in that meeting came out soing, well,
defense wins championships because he said it over and over
and over, and you know, been according to the account
I'm looking at is the Mike Curtis story on this.
You know, he basically, I'm you know, kind of saying
what he said, and so I'm not reading a long quote,
(01:59):
but he believes that if we had seen the healthy
version of the team, that team would have been really,
really good, and a lot of the fan bases vitriol
would have been dampened down because it's hard to get
angry when your team is kicking ass.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
It would have helped.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
That half that he played before he got hurt with
Kyrie was awesome.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
It would have helped.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
But still the biggest problem to me is you traded
a twenty five year old global icon and you got
six years older or seven years old whatever, right with
ad a guy who's been hurt like his whole career.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
So you know there's problems with it all over the place.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I do know this if by having this press conference,
if you even call it that, to me, that's an
indication that Nico Harrison is staying that they're not going
to part ways with him, because you wouldn't roll him
out there today and then part ways with him in
a couple days of your season ends.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Well, let me say this as you just add on
to what you're saying. He was asked if he sees
himself as the GM moving forward. He said, you have
three years left on my contract. I see myself finishing
it out. In terms of Dallas, this is our home,
my family, they're going to finish school here, this is
where we live.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
So this is where I'm living, right and I heard.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I was listening to the ticket Im Oway here and
they were talking about whether they somebody on the ticket
was saying they thought he would resign. I'm like, what
what world are you living in where you think he's
going to resign.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, he's doubling down. He uh.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
And We've talked about this on our show many times.
I've told you guys, he loves Anthony Davis. And I
actually thought that he would try to trade Kyrie Irving
for Anthony Davis. That's kind of how I thought that
thing was going to go. But obviously he had other
ideas in mind. But he doubled down on that in
this several times, saying, you know, there he was asked about, well,
(03:44):
what about everybody saying you didn't get enough return on
the trade, And what he's saying is Anthony Davis is
he says, when you look at the trade, we targeted
ad with our philosophy of defense wins championships. We wanted
a two way player to lead our team, and that
was Anthony Davis. Everyone's going to have their criticism. I'm
not sure what Mark Cuban said, but that's a better
(04:06):
question left for him. We got what we wanted and
so again, like when we've had all these conversations, be like,
I don't understand this. It doesn't make sense. I'm like,
I get that. It doesn't make sense to you. It
makes sense to him. That's who we wanted, that's the
style of basketball he envisions them playing.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
That's the team that he builds, and just so happened
at this moment in time with the new ownership group.
There were no checks and balances, right, there was no
one else to talk to. So this is what one
guy wanted and there was nobody to stop him because
any anybody else who could have vetoed the deal was gone,
was out of the picture.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Ja Kid had a good relationship with AD two, you know.
So I'm very curious. I mean, that's my like, if
you could find out anything like how behind closed doors
or how much did Jay Kid know about it or
want this deal to happen or did he not?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
You know, that's what I really want to know.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
My thought is there's no way he I mean, I
don't know double negative. I think he knew. I think
he probably had to say. And I think if you're
a political person and you're in a political environment, you
just kind of get in line once you see the
way things are going to go.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I could be dead wrong on that, but my thought
is a tiny, a tiny group had a vote and
it was Nico leading the way. And I'll bet Jay
Kid was one of those guys who could vote.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
But I don't know that. I'm just throwing that out there. Well,
and I will.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
We'll wrap this up pretty quick and get back into
it later in the show. If ja Kid was in
on it, it doesn't be hoof because of the volatile nature.
It doesn't behove everybody to let Jakid know that because
he's got to go back in that locker room and
those guys have to trust him.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
So if if Jake Kidd was like, yeah, man, I
want to get rid of you know, Luca, you know,
they were probably like, okay, well we'll just you know,
nobody knows about this, so let's leave it that way
so you can still have the trust and control of
the locker room.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, yeah, who knows? Who knows?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
But I think more will come out. I mean, the
Mavericks may have been getting ahead of something by doing this.
I don't even know what to make of all this. Anyways,
we'll get back into it later, because Kyrie spoke last
night and we have the audio and it's juicy, juicy
ju say, all right, coming up next a cat fight
in space. That's right now. We're gonna ratch it up.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
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