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May 8, 2025 11 mins
A deep dive into the newest Dallas Cowboy - George Pickens
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Akill that.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
This thing's big, all right?

Speaker 1 (00:07):
This coyways made traders today. We talked about a little
bit yesterday's show. George Pickens is your newest Dallas Cowboy.
George Pickens good wide receiver for the Pittsburgh Steelers. The
Coways give up a third round picking next year's draft
for him. There's a lot of things that go with
George Pickens. He's an incredible athlete. He has it's not
even off the field stuff, it's actually a lot of

(00:28):
on the field problems. And then like he's just he's
he's very wild ass, just probably the best description of him.
The potential is incredible, and then everything else is very
much up in the air. So he comes to Dallas
on a contract here and there's a lot to talk
about here, but I want to read something to you guys.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
First, John, a shot of the Athletic, was doing.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
An article with a beat writer for the Steelers, and
one thing that they were talking about was the contract scenario.
So he comes here, has the same agent as Micah Parsons,
who is not in a contract year, but next year
would be in a contract year, and there's an idea
of like the Steelers trying to get rid of him
now because he would have poisoned the well if he

(01:12):
held out for training camp. And here's what the Steelers
rider said, here's the question from Mishoda. Do you think
there's a chance Pickens would sit out until he gets
a new deal? And the Steelers rider said, just a
few years ago, I'm sorry he goes. I felt trading
Pickens now made more sense rather than waiting into uncertain
waters and potentially inviting a messy situation in training camp.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
He hasn't acted in a rational way previously.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
It wouldn't surprise me if he's willing to be fined
in camp or even into the season by holding out.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Okay, that's where it's a bad trade if it got there.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
There's so much to discuss, and I think this all
of this for me personally, it has to do with
the emotional roller coaster of being a Dallas Cowboy fan.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
And I know that there's a lot of people that
feel the same.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
But from Afar watching George Pickens, I was like, good God,
this guy's a head case. Look at what he's fighting
Jordan Lewis in a game. I'm like, I'm team Jordan Lewis.
This guy is out of his mind, all the issues
he has off the field. The minute he's a Dallas cowboy.
I'm like, yes, he's fixed, but.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
He'll never have any more problems ever. Again, this is great.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
So I've had time just to do some research and
think about it, read about it, listen to other people
about it, and just try to wrap my brain around it.
From a fit standpoint, this is exactly what this offense needs.
A big, tall receiver who's a vertical threat. Dak hasn't
had that. You look at the guys he's had to
throw the ball down the field too. I mean the
last good one he had was Michael Gallup when before

(02:40):
he you know, got hurt. He's had little guys since then.
Those little guys aren't good at running those go routes.
It just doesn't work the same. You need a big
guy that could get up the field like and compliment
Ceedee Lamb. And that's exactly what he is. That's what
Tedoroa McMillan would have been right if he had he
had dropped there.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
And so like tallis Pickings, he's the same size as
Ceede Lamb pretty much.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Yeah, okay, so it's like this guy, this is exactly
what they need. An X receiver, tall, good target down
the field, gets downfield speed like he's a perfect compliment
to what Ced does on the field. It's like ideal.
But then you start looking, Okay, why is this guy available.
He's twenty four, He's gonna get you a thousand yards

(03:22):
a year. He's one of the best receivers in the league,
but not quite like he's in the tier two right, right,
And so if you look at what the tier two
guys make, like I've heard speculation that the Cowboys are
about to pay Jalen Tolbert he was in a contract,
you're right, like ten to twelve, right, there's no way
they for Jalen Tolbert. Ferguson is about in that same range,

(03:44):
probably be in that ten to twelve if they decide
to pay him.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Or they or they let him want.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
And just so I'm on the same page with you guys.
You guys believe that Ferguson's a better tight end than
Tolbert is.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Receiver site Okay, And so if you look at the
highest paid number two receivers in the league, they're all
between twenty twenty eight twenty nine million. Okay, The number
one like CD he's at thirty five, but there's some
guys who are at twenty eight, twenty six, twenty seven,
twenty five. So if you're George Pickens, who a lot
of people took him off their draft board, They're like,

(04:13):
we're not drafting him no matter what. He had got
into a lot of trouble in college, he's gotten into
a lot of trouble in the pros. He's been fined
two hundred dollars in one season alone. He got fined
two hundred grand for missing team meetings.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
Showing up late, not you know, all the second round
contract being a problem.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yeah, and not only making a million whatever, that's a lot.
That's a huge fine. So I've I've heard some speculations.
People are like, dude, that he doesn't want to sign
a deal because he wants to go have Dacbiust quarterback.
He's had bad quarterbacks and he's going to go earn
his next contract, so he doesn't want a.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
Deal, Like that's try report of that. That's why I
don't think he would hold out that.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
I don't think he would either now, And I've heard
that the Cowboys don't want that either.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
They're like, why would we rush out and do a deal.
Let's see how this goes.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
We're about to get George Pickens on his best possible behavior. Yeah,
where he's going to go try to get a contract.
And the thought is if he leaves, well, they'll just
go get a compet story pick for him.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Right, So that's the risk.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
And so if he put up big numbers, let's say that,
Let's say he goes crazy and he puts up twelve
hundred yards and eight touchdown, ten touches whatever what and go.
And let's say he gets north of twenty four million
dollars per year and they don't want to pay it.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
What story pick would they get? Would they get a
third round pick? It'd be a late third round pick?

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah, okay, so it'd be like what you're giving up
probably if you're good, Yeah, yeah, you know, and you
get it back into twenty seven drive.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
It'd just be a year delayed. But they, at least
right now, are going for it. And I also heard speculation.
I heard somebody say, I think it was Broadus who
said something like, you know, a GM that's worried about
keeping their job doesn't make this trade, right.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
Yeah, No, Hey, nobody in this organization is going anywhere
unless they decide they want to go somewhere.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Sure, like this is the epitome.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
It's kind of their whole reason they kept Shottenheimer, right,
this was a guy nobody was trying to hire. Dude,
I'm not at all worried about Schottenheimer as a coach.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
I'm not.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
He may not be a great coach, but I don't
think he's going to be a bad coach. I don't
think if you grew up in the NFL you're going
to be a bad coach. I think he might just
be a pedestrian coach. What I'm hoping is that he
actually has some great ideas and I do think that there.
It always excites me when you're bringing in fresh blood,
young coaches. Now that doesn't mean they're good, sure, right,

(06:31):
But like I would just take you back to eight
years ago and all the coaches that everyone's talking about now,
nobody knew who they were. Nobody was talking about the
McVeigh when he was the quarterback coach in Washington. It
wasn't until he got out from underneath that, and everyone's
talking about, like that's where fresh blood comes from.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
And the fact that there's fresh blood in the organization.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
I love that. It may all suck, but I love that.
But I don't based on how the Cowboys have operated.
I cannot see a scenario in which they have to
pay Micah Parsons that they are going to pay their
second receiver twenty five million when they're paying their top
receiver thirty five I cannot even begin Then they have

(07:12):
the highest paid quarterback currently, I cannot in any way
my brain cannot fathom the Cowboys ever doing anything like that.
Especially and look, if you're gonna pick a position for
a guy to be a wild ass, I either want
that wild ass to be a wide receiver or a cornerback.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah, okay, the Bengals are your example.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
It's t Higgins who just got signed for twenty eight million,
But they franchised him for a year, right, so they
could franchise tag him too if they wanted two years
of him.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, I get the fizing a wide receiver, Oh my god,
should be in the nuts. Well, if you got a
franchise someone, probably so.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
I also think about the Cowboys are trying to improve
their culture. Like if you look at all the guys
they draft, they tried to draft team Captains. Yeah, this
is an anti culture guy. This is Jason Garrett stuff.
This is Team Captains. And then we're bringing in Yeah,
Greg Hardy, he's it's but it's that vibe and Gregory
had questions yeah, or.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Or does you know?

Speaker 3 (08:06):
And and but uh, I think about what wasn't it?
Rick Carlisles said, it can't all be milk drinkers. Yeah,
you can have one guy, right like you can't have
a bunch of those guys. But I don't know. It'll
be interesting to see how it goes too, because I
don't know that there's a team out there based on
George Pickens pass that wants to pay him twenty eight
million even if he goes crazy. He ain't getting that

(08:28):
d he's got warts and you've got concerns bringing him in.
So what if you could, you know, would they to
fortify the sixty million they're paying dak and if if
he goes out and has a big year, would they
pay Pickings eighteen twenty million a year? And what he accepts, Yeah,
he was what else is out there for if he
goes and that's a great point. If he goes out
there and puts up the numbers that would justify paying

(08:50):
him big. You're not gonna pay him big, like you
would have to be like Jacksonville or somebody going all.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
Right, yeah, wed time for us to spend some money.
We'll spend money on this guy. Which if that's the case,
that's fine. You do let him go and you replenish
what this reminds me of the kind of move it is.
It reminds me of the kind of move that we
all thought the Cowboys would make the last three or
four years, because Jerry is a thousand years old, right,
you know.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
They should have been doing.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
But you know what this move was for the Steelers
in a tiny way, this was the Luca trade.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
They're like, we don't want to pay him. Yeah, we
don't think this is going to get any better. Let's
get something for him now. They were sick of that dude,
like they're sick of him, and dude, they he's a
twenty four year old, badass receiver and they need receivers
horribly bad.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
You know what a funny thing Antonio Brown, and they're
really not that comparable as players are. Antonio Brown who
was there for a long time and eventually we're on
his welcome there. I think everyone says about Antonio Brown,
though he practiced hard, he worked his ass off. George
Pickens is a guy who after a game will say
you at it and block him that run play at
don't want to get hurt. Yes, he said that, which
you know my record, you know, maybe you know Terry

(09:57):
your ACL doesn't help us either.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
So maybe don't get one. Dude. Man he is They
couldn't wait to get rid of him.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
Now this will happen, but it's a perfect fit on
the field for the Cowboys, and for one year he'll
be on his best behavior.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yeah, so maybe to work.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
I agree, lie to him and say, hey, man, go
out there and earn it, and then turn your back
on him next year.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
And now teams can't triple cover ceede lamb Right, that's
the best part.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
And dude, it helps the run game too, yes, because
now you're gonna get people in cover two.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
They're gonna get the safety out of the box and
now you can run. It helps Ferguson.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
I mean, I love it on the field, but again
I have zero interest in him being a Cowboy after
next year. So this season, right it out for one
year and then you go get the next Teto McMillan
and next year's trafted kid.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Let's do it, all right.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
I'll never forget the time that Kat had a chance
to draft Ted McMillan. He looked him dead in the eye.
He showed him his card and he.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Said, I think I would say never change, you know,
but also change.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
Which is a weird thing to say to a rookie
that's gonna do it for us. But Christina is going
to stick around and play tunes right here on the
eagle there.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
You going, well want to get some cheeks after this
horsepower is joint alright, enough fun in games
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