June 9, 2025 • 6 mins
What happens when a former Dallas Cowboy becomes the center of a tragic headline—while a Garland grandmother becomes an overnight millionaire?In this emotionally charged and wildly unpredictable episode of The Ben and Skin Show, hosts Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray take listeners on a rollercoaster of real-life drama, dark humor, and unexpected joy.The episode opens with a heavy dose of reality: the shocking arrest of former Cowboys cornerback Kelvin Joseph, aka Bossman Fat, following a deadly motorcycle crash in Richardson. The crew unpacks the disturbing details, including his past connection to a 2022 murder investigation and his controversial exit from the NFL.But just when the mood hits rock bottom, the show pivots to a heartwarming and downright cinematic moment: a Garland grandmother wins $1 million at Choctaw Casino just hours after retiring from her job of 33 years.🎙️ Key Moments You Can’t Miss:
- The tragic timeline of Kelvin Joseph’s fall from NFL hopeful to criminal defendant
- A hilarious sidebar about OT Tavern, beer pong, and KT’s wild nights with Jeff Cavanaugh
- The feel-good story of Choctaw’s latest millionaire and the casino’s $10,000 donation to a Garland nonprofit in her honor
- A sneak peek at the crew’s upcoming live broadcast from Choctaw this Friday
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's going on in Dallas?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Yeah, girl, Okay, choose your own adventure here. Do you
want the good news first of the bad news?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
It's up to Christina. Let's get bad news out of
the way.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I've always subscribed to that theory when someone tells you
I've got good news and bad news, What do you
want first?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
All right?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I want the bad parts, so I can't really enjoy
the good part.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I'm like, on on a scale of one hundred, how
bad is the bad and how good.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Is the good?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Like, it just depends because you're really not paying attention
to the second thing, ever the first one.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
So pay attention to both these stories, audience, Okay, bad news. First.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Do you remember former Dallas Cowboys cornerback Kelvin Joseph.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I do, the rap artist known as boss Man Fat.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I think of him more as being adjacent to a
murder than a football player. I don't even remember what
his game was like.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
You remember him being allegedly in the car that sped
off behind the old ot tavern on Greenville Avenue when
that murder did.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Have That's what I meant by adjacent to the murder.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yes, that was the details from a few years back.
Now he weren't you there that night with Kavanaugh? There
were multiple times when Kavanaugh and I somehow hit a
lottery where we had a Friday night appearance at ot tavern.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Every summer, every Friday night in the summer, and it
was easy money. Yeah, we'd go get a hammer and
play beer pong, but multiple times a fight would happen.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Soroy lived over there on Martel over there in those
days too. Kind of crazy, okay. Either way, he moved
on from his time with the Cowboys as a second
round pick just didn't really pan out here, went off
somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Then he ended up with the Chiefs for a little bit.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
And then he was quoted in an article that was
just diminishing the Cowboys tours that they give at the Star.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Oh, he was absolutely in that.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
One of the quotes like, yeah, man, here in Kansas City,
it's all about football, not in Dallas. I'm like, come on,
bro y'a like seventeen albums, like boss Man Fat was
cranking out the hits that, yes, he had so many CDs.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
And was he a good player? Not really?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yeah, I thought college Yeah in college, yeah, it's good.
But like as a pro he bounced around. Isn't he
currently in the UFL?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I think so? Yeah, Okay, well it might change.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
One person is dead Kelvin Joseph under arrest after a
deadly motorcycle crash on seventy five in Richardson on Saturday morning.
And by Saturday morning, I mean a little bit after
five thirty am. Yeah, so I don't know if this
was getting up and going to the gym, it wasn't.
The female motorcycle driver was twenty seven year old Cody
(02:36):
Morris of Plano, dead at the scene when police arrived,
he did call the police if there is something that
he didn't just run off?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Didn't he call the police when he got home? Though?
You know, I don't know that I believe.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Look this because the reporter on this story was my wife, okay,
because she was reading me the story, and so she
was reading me the story of oh, this is so
sad someone in Allen killed a person on a motorcycle
last night, and I was like, oh no, that's horrible,
and she's reading me the details and then she goes, yeah,
(03:10):
apparently he called the police when he got home. And
then she said, by you know, so he left the scene,
then called the police, and then when they went to
go talk to him, it was pretty clear he had
been inebriated.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, her family saying that he went home first tried
to I had not seen that.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
But her family also said she was on the phone
with her husband. She was coming home from work.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Oh my god, I got a seven year old kid.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
And then my wife continues to read and she goes, wait,
this is a Dallas cowboy. I go what She goes,
have you ever heard of Kelvin Joseph. I was like, yeah,
he was involved in a murder. Oh that's why I
think of when I think of Kelvin Joseph. I don't
think of a twenty twenty two Greenville Avenue thing, right,
I don't think of a single thing that he did
(04:00):
on a football field. I just think of the footage
that I saw that guy getting shot outside of that suv.
And then so he didn't have the gun, but he
was with those people. He was in the car with
the guy that murdered the guy, and he somehow got
out of all that because he light to the police.
Remember that, Yeah, And of course the cowboys were like.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Oh, you know these things happen you trade him to
the Dolphins in twenty twenty three. Christina, Ye, thank you
a terrible story. Let's do the good story now. Sorry
about that man.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
That's terrible and obviously just you know, local family dealing
with a lot of sadness that is horrible. Uh.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Fox Force got a story up there and they may
I don't know if there's gonna be like a go
fund me like that type of thing if you want
to get in. Okay, Garland grandmother. Her name is Pong
h f u o ng Okay. She retired from her
thirty three year job last week and she was the
(05:00):
one million dollar winner at chalk Taw Casino and during
early Sunday morning.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
See this is why we is why we tell people
all the time if you need to be a rewards
club member out there at Choctaw they're doing the one
million dollar cash drawings.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
They did one last Saturday. She was a winner.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
They also have on July fifth and one August second.
That is amazing, three months, three millionaires. And because Chalktaw
is good people and we know that he's been working
for a long time now. In fact, we will be
at Chalkdaw this Friday afternoon. They're also donating ten thousand
to a nonprofit in the Garland area. Oh, in honor
(05:39):
of her winning. Yeah, so does it say what she
did for thirty three years?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
You know what? I didn't see that in the article,
but I'm sure she did good work. Man, Come on,
she said quote.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I'm still excited. I never thought I would win. Tonight
my name was called. I stood up for my table.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
And I said, that's my name. That would be a
funny game show.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
We need that drop forever, so we can now have
a game show called that's my name.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Three months, three millionaires, one of them from Garland. Incredible.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
If I'm if I'm out there in Mesquite, I'm kind
of thinking I better get up to Choctaw. Well.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Remember last year that young girl in Plano won. I
say girl, she was in her twenties. Yeah, that's dude.
There's so many people from the Metroplex that are winning
big at Choctaw. It's really really awesome, and we want
you to come join us this Friday.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
We'll be doing the show from there.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
All right, great work, KT Been and Skin Show ninety
seven point one The Eagle coming up next. We celebrate
one of the greatest coaches in DFW sports history, right
here and around the sports now
What's going on in Dallas?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Yeah, girl, Okay, choose your own adventure here. Do you
want the good news first of the bad news?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
It's up to Christina. Let's get bad news out of
the way.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I've always subscribed to that theory when someone tells you
I've got good news and bad news, What do you
want first?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
All right?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I want the bad parts, so I can't really enjoy
the good part.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I'm like, on on a scale of one hundred, how
bad is the bad and how good.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Is the good?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Like, it just depends because you're really not paying attention
to the second thing, ever the first one.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
So pay attention to both these stories, audience, Okay, bad news. First.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Do you remember former Dallas Cowboys cornerback Kelvin Joseph.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I do, the rap artist known as boss Man Fat.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I think of him more as being adjacent to a
murder than a football player. I don't even remember what
his game was like.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
You remember him being allegedly in the car that sped
off behind the old ot tavern on Greenville Avenue when
that murder did.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Have That's what I meant by adjacent to the murder.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yes, that was the details from a few years back.
Now he weren't you there that night with Kavanaugh? There
were multiple times when Kavanaugh and I somehow hit a
lottery where we had a Friday night appearance at ot tavern.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Every summer, every Friday night in the summer, and it
was easy money. Yeah, we'd go get a hammer and
play beer pong, but multiple times a fight would happen.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Soroy lived over there on Martel over there in those
days too. Kind of crazy, okay. Either way, he moved
on from his time with the Cowboys as a second
round pick just didn't really pan out here, went off
somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Then he ended up with the Chiefs for a little bit.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
And then he was quoted in an article that was
just diminishing the Cowboys tours that they give at the Star.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Oh, he was absolutely in that.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
One of the quotes like, yeah, man, here in Kansas City,
it's all about football, not in Dallas. I'm like, come on,
bro y'a like seventeen albums, like boss Man Fat was
cranking out the hits that, yes, he had so many CDs.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
And was he a good player? Not really?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yeah, I thought college Yeah in college, yeah, it's good.
But like as a pro he bounced around. Isn't he
currently in the UFL?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I think so? Yeah, Okay, well it might change.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
One person is dead Kelvin Joseph under arrest after a
deadly motorcycle crash on seventy five in Richardson on Saturday morning.
And by Saturday morning, I mean a little bit after
five thirty am. Yeah, so I don't know if this
was getting up and going to the gym, it wasn't.
The female motorcycle driver was twenty seven year old Cody
(02:36):
Morris of Plano, dead at the scene when police arrived,
he did call the police if there is something that
he didn't just run off?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Didn't he call the police when he got home? Though?
You know, I don't know that I believe.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Look this because the reporter on this story was my wife, okay,
because she was reading me the story, and so she
was reading me the story of oh, this is so
sad someone in Allen killed a person on a motorcycle
last night, and I was like, oh no, that's horrible,
and she's reading me the details and then she goes, yeah,
(03:10):
apparently he called the police when he got home. And
then she said, by you know, so he left the scene,
then called the police, and then when they went to
go talk to him, it was pretty clear he had
been inebriated.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, her family saying that he went home first tried
to I had not seen that.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
But her family also said she was on the phone
with her husband. She was coming home from work.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Oh my god, I got a seven year old kid.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
And then my wife continues to read and she goes, wait,
this is a Dallas cowboy. I go what She goes,
have you ever heard of Kelvin Joseph. I was like, yeah,
he was involved in a murder. Oh that's why I
think of when I think of Kelvin Joseph. I don't
think of a twenty twenty two Greenville Avenue thing, right,
I don't think of a single thing that he did
(04:00):
on a football field. I just think of the footage
that I saw that guy getting shot outside of that suv.
And then so he didn't have the gun, but he
was with those people. He was in the car with
the guy that murdered the guy, and he somehow got
out of all that because he light to the police.
Remember that, Yeah, And of course the cowboys were like.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Oh, you know these things happen you trade him to
the Dolphins in twenty twenty three. Christina, Ye, thank you
a terrible story. Let's do the good story now. Sorry
about that man.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
That's terrible and obviously just you know, local family dealing
with a lot of sadness that is horrible. Uh.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Fox Force got a story up there and they may
I don't know if there's gonna be like a go
fund me like that type of thing if you want
to get in. Okay, Garland grandmother. Her name is Pong
h f u o ng Okay. She retired from her
thirty three year job last week and she was the
(05:00):
one million dollar winner at chalk Taw Casino and during
early Sunday morning.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
See this is why we is why we tell people
all the time if you need to be a rewards
club member out there at Choctaw they're doing the one
million dollar cash drawings.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
They did one last Saturday. She was a winner.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
They also have on July fifth and one August second.
That is amazing, three months, three millionaires. And because Chalktaw
is good people and we know that he's been working
for a long time now. In fact, we will be
at Chalkdaw this Friday afternoon. They're also donating ten thousand
to a nonprofit in the Garland area. Oh, in honor
(05:39):
of her winning. Yeah, so does it say what she
did for thirty three years?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
You know what? I didn't see that in the article,
but I'm sure she did good work. Man, Come on,
she said quote.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I'm still excited. I never thought I would win. Tonight
my name was called. I stood up for my table.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
And I said, that's my name. That would be a
funny game show.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
We need that drop forever, so we can now have
a game show called that's my name.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Three months, three millionaires, one of them from Garland. Incredible.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
If I'm if I'm out there in Mesquite, I'm kind
of thinking I better get up to Choctaw. Well.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Remember last year that young girl in Plano won. I
say girl, she was in her twenties. Yeah, that's dude.
There's so many people from the Metroplex that are winning
big at Choctaw. It's really really awesome, and we want
you to come join us this Friday.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
We'll be doing the show from there.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
All right, great work, KT Been and Skin Show ninety
seven point one The Eagle coming up next. We celebrate
one of the greatest coaches in DFW sports history, right
here and around the sports now
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