Full Show: July 24, 2025

Here's Thursday's show, featuring plenty of discussion about the death of Hulk Hogan, a deep dive on the Cowboys newest head coach, and the DFW Gig Guide to let you know all the shows that are happening this weekend. 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
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Speaker 3 (00:16):
I think?

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Egle, Yeah, we doing it.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Tune ins out, crank it up, eat the habit. I
want to hang out with my friends rocking on the radio.
My host talking on the radio. It's time to do
this fong.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Call it.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
Kajstine up, all them on the radio.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
H Yes, let's go. We are off and running on
a Thursday. Thank you for tuning in to the world
famous Ben and Skin Show. Hopefully we make your workday
flying by. I'm Ben Rogers, joined by Jeff skin Wade, Kevin,
Katie Turner, and Christina Kray little baby corn Bread Ray.
All hands on deck today for what's going to be
a phenomenal show. Unfortunately, we got more bad news today

(01:18):
on the heels of the passing of Malcolm Jamar Warner,
who passed away at the age of fifty four, who
drowned on a family vacation. Ozzy Osbourne who passed away
at the age of seventy six. We now learned today
that Hulk Hogan has passed away at the age of
seventy one because of a heart attack. This is a
really bad week for gen X. I mean those are

(01:40):
three gen X icons. Now, Ozzy predates that, but for
guys that are mining Ben's age. When we were like
junior high kids, Ozzy as a solo artist was huge
and you'd come home every day after school and his
videos would be on MTV.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
So there's that obviously, league.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
I mean it people of all different backgrounds, nationalities, races
watched The Cosby Show. I mean they were icons for
sure for African Americans, especially African American teenagers, because there
was not a lot of that on primetime television. And
not only was that on primetime television, it was the

(02:23):
number one show in the damn world. And then man,
the Rise of the Hulkster. I mean, he was definitely
the biggest wrestler of our childhood. I mean I missed
all that because I was into you know, the von Ericks,
and you know, I loved that I love you know,
the local guys, and I think you know this was

(02:44):
after that, right, and.

Speaker 5 (02:46):
He was more mid eighties, Like, he really was huge
in the mid.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Eighties, and I dipped out around that time, so I
never really got into Hole Cocha and I knew he
was a big deal though, obviously, and he was. Of
course he was in one of those rocky movies, right, Yeah.
And he also had a hit song in rotation on
MTV with I Am a Real American, which if you
watch it now, it looks like a parody of patriotism, right,

(03:10):
and it does remind me of idiocracy, you know, the
idea that a wrestler would be president, and had he
not passed away, maybe he would have been president one day,
and maybe idiocracy would have been true. But three celebrity passings.
Now there is a famous saying that, and we'll talk
more about whole COVID on today's show, which is the
reason I bring that up. But Kat has this saying,

(03:31):
you know, people who code, I think they can do
some stuff. And I think about that relative to Las Vegas.
People in Las Vegas, I either think they know some stuff.
And when you see lines or you know, betting and
you're like, wait a second, do they know something that's
going to happen or you know, the house wins most
of the time, right, And so Vegas is saying that

(03:54):
the Cowboys will miss the playoffs, Well, yeah, I mean
I think a lot of teams.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
I mean a lot of people think they're the third
best team in the division because you have your defending
champion and you have the other team that played in
the NFC Championship game, the Commandos.

Speaker 5 (04:10):
Do you like what the Commandos did in the offseason?

Speaker 6 (04:12):
I do.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
But the thing about the Commandos is you have to
remember that last year they had the most fourth down
I think, the most fourth down conversions. Like if you
just changed the math to lead average, they lose three
more games and they won last year, but eight their
quarterbacks really good, and they had a Deebo Samuel if
he happens to be healthy. Yeah, yeah, they think they're
still gonna be pretty good. I honest, They're gonna better

(04:34):
than us, though, I think we're gonna be okay.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
The whole reason there's any excitement around the Cowboys is
that they went and got George Pickens for one yeard
you pick That's it. Like outside of that it's like,
there's not really a lot to hang your hat on
as to why this season's gonna be any different.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
Oh, you just wait until five forty today, Sarah, because
I'm going to turn the tide on that.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
It also comes down to is it a bounce back
here for Dak We're he was subpar and then he
got hurt in the year before he was arguably a
top three quarterback, So we're not that far removed, but
injuries happened so that most of the Cowboys' success hinges
on is that gonna be more like he was two

(05:16):
years ago? Because if he is, they're gonna be right
in the middle of it with everybody else. I feel
like he could be that and they'll still be bad
because I don't think they can stop anyone. I'm super
worried about their defense. I don't think they have a
good defensive line. I don't think they have good linebackers,
and I don't think they have a good secondary. So
don't know what they're gonna do good defensively. I think

(05:36):
they're gonna be one of the worst defenses in football.
How were they last year?

Speaker 5 (05:41):
League wide? Do you know if I care when Cooper
rush is the quarterback. I don't know, no, no, no,
I just met. Their defense was their defense one of
the worst defense. I don't even remember they had a
ton in everyone could ever know that?

Speaker 4 (05:51):
Yeah, I will say, I don't think they're any worse
than I think they're better than last year. So last
year it's so hard because dak to get hurt. But like,
what you need is like the Rangers were waiting on
some guys to get healthy and things like that. You
do need like overshown and Treylon Dicks to come back
and be helpful.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
You need them to hit the ground running, like immediately
get back and be badass.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
I think your pass rushing is like the chance to
be extra special. I think Sam Williams will be good.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Oh yeah, they missed last year. They've got good pass rushers,
that's the thing they have. Let's see defense last year.
Would you like to know? Yes, by scoring or by yards?

Speaker 5 (06:28):
Do both?

Speaker 1 (06:29):
I don't think it matters those things, Daddy.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
By scoring defense, they were oh no, thirty first, that's
all right, Sorry I hit the wrong tab there.

Speaker 5 (06:43):
I remember that they couldn't stop the runs.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Oh no, they can't stop the run. Yeah, they can't
stop the running. That's a hard thing to be good
at football. When you can't stop the run. There's no
running back anymore. Vegas says, the Cowboys won't be able
to make the playoffs. So all right, coming up next, Skin,
We're you gonna take us in Things Skin is Tracking.
You know what, we didn't know that we were going
to start the show so football heavy. But there is

(07:08):
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because we use it as part of this. But right
now it's time for this sin track, another edition of
Things Skin is Traffic. All right, So, I mean, everybody's
riveted by this story. Day four of the Japanese interval
Walking starting to hit it stride. I'm it this morning?

Speaker 5 (07:52):
Did you did you really give me fayback?

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (07:55):
I mean it felt great.

Speaker 5 (07:56):
Yeah, did you do the three minute intervals?

Speaker 4 (08:00):
Not really?

Speaker 1 (08:00):
What did it do? My in my head? Do it
Japanese style?

Speaker 3 (08:05):
I did an American style because I would go off
song like I would because songs are about three minutes.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah, So it depends if it's if it's if you
keep playing that Blur song, that song number two over
and over, it's a shorter interval.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
But then if you play Stairway to Heaven, but it's
a long interval, right right.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
I just lecture exploded when I did it, But I'm okay, good.
I just I know anytime skin walks, I hear that
fart sound that groups used to do. Yeah, with every step,
so imagine propelled around his neighborhood and allan there is.
Those are my intervals slowing down. You should put a

(08:41):
music bet underneath that as my song changes.

Speaker 5 (08:44):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
I was reading this morning and I hadn't been following this,
and I guess it's been going on, but now it's
really picking up steam. Are you guys following that? ESPN's
about to buy all the NFL media properties. I have
seen some of that, like the NFL Sunday ticket is
about to be an ESPN thing. It'll probably it won't
be till next year for the Red Zone channel, right, yeah,
red Zone channel. But really the NFL network, all of

(09:08):
their media properties would be subsumed by ESPN. Subsumed. I've
never heard that work. They are going to have a
you know, a digital platform. It's currently like I think
ten dollars if you get it for now. They're relaunching
it in a month, and they'll relaunch it before the

(09:29):
NFL deal is done. Because whenever you have a deal
of this size, it's got to go through the courts
and be approved.

Speaker 6 (09:35):
You know.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
This is what I'm sure everyone today is talking about
South Park because South Park did a very edgy thing
last night, and they're owned by Paramount. Paramount just went
through this thing where they basically, you know, they're getting
sued by the President.

Speaker 5 (09:51):
They did a deal out of court.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
They paid the President just so they could get this
off their desk and then get the sale approved.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
And then South Park does that. Well, Paramount kind of
screwed south Park as well. I can't remember all the details,
but they had screwed them over before this deal finally
went through.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Okay, but my point being is that these big media
deals that happen. You can't have monopolies, yeah, and so
they go through the courts. So right now, ESPN is
in talks for a lot of money to purchase the
NFL's media, so NFLTV, Red Zone Channel, all that stuff.

(10:30):
It'll probably take eight or nine months. But their new
streaming service is going to be thirty dollars a month.
It's currently ten love it's gonna change to thirty. So
if you're like one of these A La Kart people,
you're gonna be paying thirty dollars a month for ESPN.
But they were struggling to figure out how to not
be a cable channel anymore and be a streaming entity.

(10:53):
Just attach yourself to the biggest, baddest beast in all
the world. And that's how you do it for sure,
looking at some of their previous deals. So ESPN already
currently pays two point seven billion dollars per season for
twenty five games a year MONEYNT footballs Yep, they're paying

(11:15):
basically one hundred million dollars a game seventeen REGU twenty
five games, twenty five games. Because they do Thursday. All
they do a couple two.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
First they do first Amazon and then they do oh yeah,
they do two first, and then they do some playoff games.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah. There we go to pink about that. Twenty five
games for two point seven billion dollars. So that's a
little over one hundred million dollars a game.

Speaker 5 (11:38):
Wow, that is a monster.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Check this out in twenty twenty four of the one
hundred highest rated programs.

Speaker 5 (11:47):
You know, we look at that list every year.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Did you see this already been no of the one
hundred highest rated programs you know everything, how I met
your mother's out even on anymore? No, how many of
the top one hundred highest programs last year we're NFL games.
I'm seventy. I just remember looking at this for Dallas
Fort Worth, you know, back when I was selling television advertising,
and it would be it always surprised me and it

(12:11):
would be like, I don't know, almost half of them were,
you know, NFL games. Do you want to guess?

Speaker 5 (12:17):
Christina KT guest seventy Ben guest half.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Okay, well I'll go on the lower end. I guess one.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Kevin wins seventy two of the one hundred top rated
shows a twenty twenty four were NFL games.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
The other things are like the presidential debates, yeah, and
award shows and that was an election year last year,
a few college football games.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
And the other thing is you you you know, with ratings,
I think you have to watch it within a certain
time period or it doesn't count when the ratings and
sports is one of those things that people watch live. Yeah,
they just don't want to They just don't want to
watch it later, you know. Crazy.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
You know what's happening is that twenty twenty nine or
twenty thirty, the NFL's deal is up with Fox and
CBS and Netflix is already like oh yeah, yeah, that's
what's saving up.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Like they're gonna come in and buy Amazon and Netflix
will have everything you want to watch Eventually. ESPN's trying
to get ahead of They've been trying to figure out
since Ben and I were on their dumb radio station
here locally, they've been trying to figure out how to
transition to digital.

Speaker 5 (13:19):
This is their play.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
We're gonna charge thirty dollars for our product, but hey,
we're gonna have the red Zone and the NFL network.
We're gonna cut our NFL network at half in staff
in half and double dip with all our football personalities,
so it's gonna be even harder for ex jocks to
get a big primetime gig. But anyways, wow wow and
big time stuff that's happening in the world of ESPN

(13:43):
and the NFL. All right, there you have it. That's
things Skin is tracking. Coming up next in the Hollywood Shuffle,
the passing of another legend. We talk about Hulkgin. That's next.

Speaker 7 (13:54):
Juicy Jews, Hot God. Every come, stay on time in
the woos.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
As we told you in the first segment today show,
Hulk Cogan dead at the age of seventy one. Coming
up a little bit later in the show, around five
point fifteen, we'll play the audio the time I had
a face to face interaction with Hulk Cogan.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Nice.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
We'll talk about him for a minute, because, uh, Hulk
is interesting. Do you guys know his real name? I
think it's Fred Lenny Ronnie. Okay, Ronnie, you're on the
right path, really, Donnie, Ronald?

Speaker 6 (14:36):
What is you know?

Speaker 4 (14:37):
The fight McMahon's yeah, Terry, Terry. He's Terry Jean Balaya
like a Terry.

Speaker 5 (14:44):
What's his last name? Belaya b O L.

Speaker 6 (14:47):
L e A.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
He was born in Augusta Georgia. So yeah, he's got
like an Italian name that sounds like to me. Did
he play ever play in the Masters? I don't think
he ever played in the Masters. Now, one thing I
was thinking about with Hulk again, we'll talk about him
a little bit.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
More a little bit later.

Speaker 6 (15:05):
For me.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
You know, my three or four year span of being
a wrestling fan came in junior high and it was
old w F. Stone called Steve Austin Kine and the
Undertaker that's.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
Way after him. Right, Well, he was on WCW at
the time. What years are we talking here? Your junior
high years in the.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Two thousand two and one doesn't do Yeah, I.

Speaker 5 (15:28):
Would have thought he would have been retired by that.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Well, No, he was on w CW bike you know.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
He was hanging out with a w CW, the Nature Boy,
Rick Flair, you know those, and they were clean and
WF was edgy. Okay, that was the difference. Now they
ended up all combining back together. And I think there
was a video game too that was w CW versus
WF right on like Nintendo sixty four was.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Rowdy Roddy Piper still around when you were hearing that
might have been but I don't think so. I don't
remember that he was so good when he won the
Oscar for They Live. Yeah, but him and him and
the Hulkster were big, a big two in the eighties.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
I was thinking about this because we're talking about Ozzie
from O twudo five was on Meet the Osbourne's reality show.
Well in t thousand and five, Hulk Hogan was on
a reality show as well. Yeah, starting five. It went
four seasons, just like Meet the Osbourne's did. Was it
called Dog the Bounty Hunter? And what was called Hogan
Knows Best? You watched that, Christina?

Speaker 3 (16:22):
I did watch it because I liked his daughter, Brooke
Hogan Brook Cogan.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
She ended up dating on the show and marrying for
a while former Cowboys center Phil Costa.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
That's right, you guys ever Phil Costa? Hell yeah, because
he was with Brooke Hogan is the main reason I
remember him.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
And I'm not I'm not lying. He is the most
country guy I've ever met in my life, Is that right?
I just talked to him for a minute and I
was kind of I think this was as well after
they weren't together anymore, and I remember going, oh my god,
this is he talks like that.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
And you're from only Yeah, this is the most country
guy you ever, Rember, I was detecting the most I mean,
I'm talking.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
We would have called him that s kicker is what
we would have called him. So I just wanted to
bring that up.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Is he like the guy in Napoleon Dynamite that goes
over there, crazy country?

Speaker 5 (17:15):
I believe it, man, I'm looking.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
I'm looking at his Wikipedia just because I'm trying to
put the dates together. And it did have one of
his biggest matches the main event February of nineteen eighty
eight ET set American television ratings records his match with
Andre the Giant in February fifth of nineteen eighty eight.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
When I back with the Freak was happening. I was
doing mornings with Soroy and Danny Bayless.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Happened to you this.

Speaker 4 (17:44):
We didn't have many fights, but one of our show
fights was SIROI thought that Hulk Cogan was a top
one hundred famous person and the criteria of this is
just goask some on the street in the world.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Did they get one hundred guesses? Would Hulk Cogan be there?

Speaker 5 (17:57):
I was like, there's no way, I think it's not
a terrible will take brother.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
I think it depends on where you are, if you're
outside the sportatorium maybe.

Speaker 5 (18:07):
I mean, I think it's a name that's instantly recognizable.

Speaker 6 (18:10):
It is.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
I mean, it's a top one hundred famous person in
America today.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
But it's an impossible thing to prove because you ask
someone if they've heard of Hull Cogan, You ask one
hundred people, like, how do you determine that? You get
them to list one hundred famous people? Like I don't
think if anyone just sat down with the pended paper,
he'd be one of the top one hundred. But if
you went up to people and you were like, hey,
have you heard of Hull Cogan? I think, yeah, it's
very possible he's one of the one hundred movies. But
they're in America. You have to know about the world.

(18:35):
You put them against someone else.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
You have to do it no, no, no, you have
to do it at three different malls, and they have
to be way different malls. Well yeah, but top one
hundred though, means there is a ranking system. Yeah, so
Tiger Woods or Hull Cogan, who's more identifying Tiger? Well,
Tiger but in a but still that leaves ninety nine
other names. You're gonna have to come up with that
somebody recognizes and knows who they are. I'm leave the

(19:00):
old Tom Cruise, Tom Cruise, let's deal, go to Sylvester stallone.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
No rockularly. I mean, it's okay about it. The name,
it's a better name, it's more. But what if we
did it this way? What if you hold up a
picture of the person and they have to name the person?
How do you get to the top one hundred? There
you walk you with a thousand pictures. It's the problem
with the argument, the first no, no, no, It's why
the arguments badass love it. I get a thousand pictures,

(19:26):
and like I have a picture of Dolly Parton, and
then I have a picture of a Whole Cogan and
I have a picture of Gabe Cotter. I mean, we
know it's going to go Dolly Parton one, Whole Cogan two,
Gabe Cotter three.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
Okay, you can get it because it depends on the
age that you're asking as well.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Are okay? So what did he exactly say? What exactly
did he say?

Speaker 4 (19:46):
No one could ever know, But I think he's a
top one hundred famous person in the world.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Because according to the Internet, Jesus Christ is number one. Okay,
is it the history of the world and is it
the world is America?

Speaker 4 (20:01):
If he's if he's current, we have a crazy story
going well, Cogan or Troy Helen of Troy no or
Troy Aikman.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Oh, think about how many people watch football. Yeah, plus
the brand of the Dallas Cowboys. That's why everybody should
take less to play co Man. Is it ever and
was he saying of people that are alive in America?
You know that's it. There's a lot of wrinkles to this.
I think the station's gone under, so yeah, you'll find
it right.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
We need to move on, Okay.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Coming up next and around the Beef, there was a
sixty person brawl and Katie has the details. That's next,
Ben and Skin Show ninety seven point one The Eagle,
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(20:48):
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Speaker 5 (20:52):
If you don't win tickets, you should go. But right
now it's time for this.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Beef stew Are you kidding me? Show it out seen
freaking million.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
I'm gonna ask you a ton of down for a
second because I said I was getting angry, But now
you're getting a little heated.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Beef brisk pick get off at roast beef. Now I
go home and still watch more after three hours? Yes
I do. Oh, you don't tell me what I do
and what I don't. Don't tell me. I watched the
damn game fun gooling beef. Why are you arguing with
me on about this?

Speaker 6 (21:20):
God?

Speaker 1 (21:20):
You make it freaking all the parable about this stuff.
Do you see where I'm going with this beef? W's
the beef, It's what's freedom.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
We had major beef in Milwaukee at a bar where
there was a fight involving a ton of people. I'm
gonna play the audio for the News gets Funny.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Brawl outside of an Oak Creek bar.

Speaker 8 (21:38):
Police called to a report of sixty people fighting late
this afternoon.

Speaker 5 (21:43):
It happened at Route forty one, a bar in Grill
first of all stuff. Imagine walking up on that.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
You just wanted to go to Oak Creek Bar and
grill to hang out and watch the game, maybe get
some wings.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
It sounds like what happened in Waco when there's like
a biker convention and everybody fought. That was bad. Yeah,
that was That was a good stuff going on.

Speaker 5 (22:01):
That was at a wing spot, wasn't it. It was
at a Twin Peaks or some peaks.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, okay, ten Peaks.

Speaker 5 (22:07):
I do remember that.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Sixty people. I'm just imagining. That's like a scene of
a movie. Those sixty people to get each other's ass.
A brawl with sixty people's like, you have to have
two huge organizations fighting to reel in sixty people. You
have to have that many hotheads that are drawn off
sides and get bumped into it. Now they're engaged and
someone else bumped, Like, how do you do that?

Speaker 5 (22:24):
Cops are automatically out numbered.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
I have to stop it.

Speaker 5 (22:28):
I have a story, and I don't know how many
people are involved. And we turned and ran.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
But we went to go see a concert in Houston
in the summer of nineteen ninety and it was a
public Enemy concert. So it's at the Summit in Houston.
So there's about eighteen thousand people, and I would say
one hundred of us were white maybe, And you're out
on the concourse level. It's after the show, so everyone
files out at the same time, and about fifty yards

(22:57):
away from us, a fight breaks out as it's leaving.
And you know you've been in a sporting event where
you see the wave. Yeah, there was a wave of
fists coming at us. Everyone just turned on each other
and man, we just turned and sprinted and ran as
fast and as far as we could to clear out
of there. Because if a wild brawl breaks out, everyone

(23:21):
wants to dot the white boy. But it's crazy, like
even at a sporting event where there's fighting, it doesn't
snowball into sixty people.

Speaker 5 (23:29):
Not normally snowball. I'm telling you though. I'm telling you though.
This was close to that.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
As twelve News is CJ.

Speaker 8 (23:36):
Dysart reports, people inside the bar were honoring a friend's
memory when the fight broke out.

Speaker 6 (23:42):
As a celebration of life event was happening inside, a
fight was occurring outside the bar. Oh Creek police, responding
just after five.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Pm to reports of a sixty person brawl, now walked outside.
Mahmie Jackson was on the floor. I helped him up.
Ambulance came next thing. I know, police are right there.

Speaker 6 (24:00):
Please say two thirty two year old men were physically
assaulted but refuse to be transported to a hospital.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
Guys.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Hell yeah, I go to the hospital. Fifty people fought
and two thirty two year olds get hurt. Yeah, there's
a few more, but uh, eyes like that.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
I'm not going The ambulance ride is expensive, right the hospital.

Speaker 9 (24:18):
Guys, they're all wrestling off back, the wrestling off front,
and I'm trying to see what's going on. I'm having
a celebration of life from my brother that died a
few years ago.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Wait, oh my gosh, Oh hold on, I just do it.
A few years ago? What happened? Oh that's amazing. That's
what's got me the whole time. You know what, we
should have a celebration of life for that dude that
died three years his brother.

Speaker 9 (24:44):
Yeah, I'm having to sell my brother that died a
few years ago. We're just trying to celebrate his life.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
That's it.

Speaker 9 (24:50):
And there it's going on out here, you know. So
I'm just I wished to go down like that. I'm
just trying to enjoy my night.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
In ok Creek. TJ.

Speaker 5 (24:59):
Dice art w I send twelve news and Okay, that
is crazy.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
I am just trying to enjoy my night out here.
I'm trying to enjoy the celebration of life. A lot
doesn't add up about that sixty people were in a fight.
Just how do sixty people get engaged in a fight
if they're not taking sides? Like, if you know what
I'm saying, Yeah, thirty people on one side showed up
to protest his celebration of life. Thirty people were there
to celebrate, Like, how does sixty people get drawn into something?

Speaker 4 (25:25):
To be honest, for brevity and the for this to
not be a two and a half or three minute
audio clip, I took out the portion where there's a
big car chase. Oh oh yeah, there's a lot more
to this, but I you know, I was trying to
try to keep it on time.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
Kid, they did like a fight club in his honor?

Speaker 6 (25:43):
Right?

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Is that that's what they did.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
That's what I think might have happened. Clearly that's what happened,
all right. Coming up next, we do have a news quickie.
What happens when people get busted for doing sex stuff
on a plane.

Speaker 5 (25:55):
That's next.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Give me that news quickie, all right.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
Sarasota, Florida, Christina Love, Sarasota. A couple from Connecticut traveling
on a Jet Blue flight from New York to Sarasota
have been arrested.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Jet Blue is one of the real cheap ones, right, Like,
you can get a flight super cheap, but you get
you're in the back with a livestock.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
You see it on the East Coast more I know.
I remember they got famous because they left all those
people on the tarmac for a long time.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
But that could happen on any airline. No, I'm here
to tell you.

Speaker 5 (26:29):
They're saying they're like aj they're used to being from
the East Coast.

Speaker 4 (26:32):
I mean, I have no offense to American, but I've
sat on a tarmac for two hours on an American plane, ye,
same before a fourteen hour flight early. The forty three
year old is Trista Riley. The forty two year old
is a guy by the name of Chris Arnold. Oh no,
that's right, all right. Trista Riley forty three, Christopher Arnold,

(26:54):
forty two. And they've been arrested because two juveniles allegedly
witnessed them performing.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Magic sexual acts mid flight, which acts That is the thing.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
That's where it gets really interesting to me, because that's
not clear. But the allegations did say the two miners
did directly observe these sex acts. One said that they
witnessed Trista Riley making up and down movements with her
head while she was faced down on mister Arnold's lap.

(27:33):
Respect fly the friendly.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
Sky where the kids turned around like they did they
turn around to watch this, like what, I don't know,
amazing for guys.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
You know, it's you can see things on a plane.
It's you know, what do you mean you can see
things on a plane. I mean it's not hard to
look around and go, oh, well they're doing it. Yeah,
how are only kids seeing this? And can you trust
kids then? And how old are these kids? Kids are sketchy,
but I'm sure others saw it. But the reason it's

(28:05):
extra illegal is because kids saw it.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Yeah, it feels very like junior high age kids saw it, okay,
because if they are junior high I think of like
me and my junior high years. If she had laid
down and took a nap, I would say Oh my god,
look what she's doing all right? Looking she may not
have been doing it.

Speaker 5 (28:22):
Yeah, yeah, dad, These people could be being done wrong here.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yes, she could have been having seizures in her sleep.
Well maybe she was just leaning over to go to
sleep with their head bobbing up and down. Oh, it's
a bunch of your turbulence. See, it's not like you
like you know, you know, a plane, you're.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
Not always I've never flown a plane. When you're flying
in a plane, you're not always keeping your head still.
There's just kids, a kids saw it. I didn't know
how old they were what they saw. Why did anyone
else see it?

Speaker 10 (28:59):
Right?

Speaker 5 (28:59):
Do they know?

Speaker 2 (28:59):
When they do?

Speaker 1 (29:00):
They even know what they saw. And they said they
saw him doing that too, not a she. So that
was the only one I.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
Thought, Yeah, okay, Yeah, Trista was had her head in
the lap of Chris Arnold.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
And that went on for how long? That went on
for how long? I mean at some point somebody's walking
down the aisle with a drink cart and that's interrupted,
like right, uh, yeah. It depends on what part of
the flight it is, because a lot of times, you know,
you've got to get up in the air and get
established before they start walking around offering up those drinks

(29:36):
or depending on how long the cabin is and they're
at the front once the cart goes past him. Man, yeah,
was it those two people sitting on in a three
row you know, three seats in a row and then
a child in the other seat.

Speaker 5 (29:51):
Now, were they across the aisle?

Speaker 7 (29:52):
No?

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Like, what what was That's crazy? Jet Blue might be
one of those at two that has two seater aisles. Yeah,
did you guys? Have you guys done in Frontier?

Speaker 3 (30:03):
I will be in I believe first week of September.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Hey, not bad, really.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Good, jep.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
You don't feel like you're getting spirited. Okay, there's a
couple of things that might make you question some stuff.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Awesome, overall, we're okay.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
No, I'm a little worried just because of how cheap
it was.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
Nah, I'd be fine if you just sit in the
fighting or non fighting six.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
I guess we'll find out. I didn't get a choice yet.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
If you don't need to take.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
If you're like like a weekend trip, if you can
cram your stuff in a backpack, for instance, if you
can do that thirty nine bucks fly across the country
thirty nine bucks.

Speaker 5 (30:39):
Hell yeah, mofo, that's just a slingshot.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
No in flight entertainment or snacks, but Fi Wi Fi
I don't trust You'd probably have to pay for that,
and they'd probably have charge you.

Speaker 5 (30:49):
I mean, i'd pay for Wi Fi if the flight
is thirty nine dollars.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Yeah, I don't trust it.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Okay, I got about a month left to live.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
So all right, there you have. There's the news. Quickie
couple busted for trying to join the Mile High Club.
Coming up next, though, let's talk Dallas Cowboys football DFW.
The first two days of Cowboys camp, there were two
fights we'll discuss in just over three minutes. Don't miss it.
That's Nick. Then in Skin Show ninety one point one,
the Eagle time to give away Volbeat Heilstorm tickets. They're

(31:16):
going to be here next Monday. Toyota Music Factory use
your iHeart app. The first person that leaves a talkback
using that talkback feature with that microphone, you leave your name,
your phone number, your email address, and answer this question.
KT earlier reported on a sixty person brawl. It happened
at a bar where something was happening a man was

(31:37):
doing something for his brother.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
What was that thing?

Speaker 1 (31:40):
If you're listening, you know, first person to tell us
you're gonna win those tickets. Good luck everybody, Remember one
person's gonna win a meet and greatest part of that.
That's pretty cool, all right. Coming up at the bottom
of the hour, we have the return of True Crime Turner.
He's got a very scandalous real crime story. But right
now it's time for this. Now it is cool.

Speaker 11 (32:01):
Around the sports KGD quints ass all the sports.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
Ye all right, camp compete every day. That's the motto
this year, even though Shoty doesn't like mottos. Here's what's
happened in the first two days of Cowboys at training camp. Yesterday,
they had a fight for the second straight practice, and
that caused Brian Schottenheimer to stop being everyone's best friend,

(32:30):
to stop being everyone's guy who'll go have dinner with you,
your ping pong buddy.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
He started ripping ass. Oh, and I don't mean farting, well,
not farting that that would ingratiate himself to all the
players if he became the farty coach.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
I think they've already had a couple of those. In fact,
they just got rid of one. There's no way he
wasn't party.

Speaker 5 (32:52):
Nobody farted leg Wade Phillips campo.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Let's here, let's hear a campo for it. Yep.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
Oh, and that's about how you can describe the Cowboys
year under him.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Okay, I thought his heart would have been the one
that sounded like the little Honda car. What Oh, that
was a Tom Landry fart. We got to Jimmy, do
we have a Jimmy fart in there? While he's taken
extends and asked a question at the end? Yep?

Speaker 4 (33:27):
Is that fart?

Speaker 6 (33:31):
So?

Speaker 4 (33:32):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (33:32):
They have a little scuffling going on.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
So Tuesday it was second year tight end Brevin span Ford,
who will find a way to make the team? Uh?

Speaker 5 (33:41):
Wait, his name is span Ford?

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Remember span Ford.

Speaker 5 (33:44):
I'm hearing a lot about him.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
They like him.

Speaker 5 (33:46):
They like him a lot about span Ford.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah, undrafted guy.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
They gave him more money, the most undrafted money two
years ago, and he had a good little year last year.

Speaker 5 (33:55):
What are stretches expectations of him as a second year
under stretch things?

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Lazy? He's another lazy one.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
Brevin span Ford got into it with rookie Donovan Azeraku. Oh, oh,
our big pass rush. They had to be separated, all right.
So it's okay fighting on the first day camp. Love it,
Love the energy, love the competition. We're gonna shoot hoops
after play some more pig bog.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Love that.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
But then on Wednesday, things escalated when safety Marquise Bell
and rookie tied end Tyler Neville, one of the Neville brothers,
got caught in a big fight. And that's when Shody
blew the whistle, stopped everyone together, got the whole team
together and started telling them that the next guy who
throws a punch is gonna be kicked off the field.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
And then we got to learn to be professionals here.

Speaker 5 (34:42):
God, Mike, I should have thrown a punch immediately, test shoty.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
So there we go.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
We got we were learning on the fly here. He's
willing to put the hammer down. That's another good thing.
I'm struggling to find the negatives here, guys on Brian Schottenheimer.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
Maybe just the fact he's been standing around for a
long time and never had no one ever wanted him
to be their head coach at five forty.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
Stay tuned because I'll tell you more about Brian Schottenheimer Hey,
don't just buy your ticket on the USS shoty like
me because we're going sailing.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
My friends, this is good. I'm excited because from what
I understand, he's a slow learner and now he's finally
ready at fifty two.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
Yeah, to be that guy. So here's what happened though,
real quick on note with Marcus Bell. Marcus Bell didn't
have a helmet on. He threw a punch in the
direction of one of the Neville brothers, Tyler Neville. And
then what happened though, Marcus's Bell punch actually hit his buddy,
the cornerback, Troy Pride, right in the neck.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
So Troy Pride's over there with the trainer. He's a god.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
He's on the ground. He's kind of hurt a little bit.
And then that kind of pissed Shody off a little bit.
Ceedee Lamb spoke out about it too. He's showing his leadership.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
I heard that. I listened to this.

Speaker 5 (35:55):
What do he say? He basically said, stop it.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
He's like he didn't understand why, you know, with the
guy on the ground, it should have stopped immediately.

Speaker 6 (36:04):
Ah.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
And he's basically saying, look, everyone's who's Who's interesting of
the things he said were pretty interesting, but he was like,
each side is trying to dominate the other side. Yeah, okay,
Like and I know everyone's fired up, and he's like,
there's no love lost, and there's but we're a team.
We love each other, right, we don't love each other
right now. So just I just wanted to see what
is the current weather in ox Nerd. He also said,

(36:26):
there's no pads on, so let's maybe not do that
right now.

Speaker 6 (36:29):
Right.

Speaker 4 (36:29):
Save your fights for the rams when you have shared
practices with them. If you guys were to guess how
hot is it, Knox Snard, right, I would guess sixty nine.
It's always sixty nine there, right, eighty four it is
seventy one, okay, so said seventy two.

Speaker 5 (36:42):
We can't blame this on the weather.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
Well, wait till the sun comes out this afternoon, though
it feels like it's eighty five. I want to spend
fifteen seconds on this. Rangers, it's one to one. It's
bottom of the eighth inning last night. Jon there's two outs,
bottom of the white. Langford's on first base. He found
first base. He doesn't get there much. Jonaheim pops it up.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Throws as bad. He's pissed.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
Looks like we're gonna be going to the ninth in
a tie game. White Langford, though, is hustling the whole
way because he knows they're playing the Oakland A's or
the Sacramento Ways, and so the left fielder's running in,
the short stop's running out.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
I got it, I got it, I got it.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
No, I got it, I got it.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
You take it, you take it down.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
They veer off ball hands in the middle of them.
White Langford is hustling the whole time, slides it at
a home plate, scores a t to one.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
When get the sweet fifty nine fifty?

Speaker 5 (37:31):
Now, how far back are we from the wild card happened? Half?

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Still out of ten? Right, that's a lot. I don't know, yeah, maybe, yeah.
So everybody else is winning because we can't make teams
when we're doing Okay, man, we're right in the hunt.

Speaker 5 (37:44):
Man, we're feeling good. How about that little Rangers baseball
for you?

Speaker 1 (37:47):
All right? Coming up next, True Crime Turner is back.
One of the craziest stories you've ever heard. That's coming
up next. Guys. Let's go to Kevin and Now for
the latest in crime.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
Serial killers, cold cases, leaders, and blood and you know him,
you fear him.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
It's time for true crime KT Kevin, what's your question
for O day? I will say I have more details
of this tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
A Chuck E Cheese employee in full costume was arrested
for credit card fraud in Florida.

Speaker 5 (38:17):
More on that tomorrow, Florida, Florida.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
It's funny because he's literally walking out with the cop
in the parking lot's hands.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
They left the helmet on that. It's amazing. Yoh, there's
this thing on TikTok or a lady. You know, people
just post their experiences. She was talking about high school
kids when you hand him the credit card are taking
pictures of it and posting it to Snapchat. Mancause, yeah,
someone just bought plane tickets on my credit card right
after I went through the drive through. Terrible.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
Now, Okay, So I there are certain stories that I
just don't tell you all anything about that happened often.
But I just like, I don't want to tell you
guys anything because I want you guys to hear it
on the air for the first time. Because I saw
this and blew my nuts off. A guy but then
art writer I think was his name, writer like wriit r.
He's having cataract surgery, very common surgery. I've got two

(39:07):
audio clips on to play for you. But he's having
normal surgery. And here's part one of this.

Speaker 11 (39:12):
It is a surgery so common nearly four million will
be performed in the US this year alone. Notes obtained
by nine News Investigates suggests Insight Surgery Center staff noticed
abnormal vital signs eleven minutes into the cataract surgery. By
the time bart Ryder arrived at Skyridge Medical Center a
mile and a half away, his death was all but insured.

(39:33):
An autopsy blamed cardiac arrest. It just didn't make sense,
that is until she got a call from a doctor
not present.

Speaker 5 (39:41):
In the room and he goes, I'm telling you this
because I think that's a major distraction.

Speaker 11 (39:45):
That doctor's tip outlined a story so absurd.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
That's why I cut it off.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
Here, any guesses, guys on wine, Now keep in mind
it's a doctor who is not in the room during
the surgery, during the cataracts, contacted the guy who died
his wife and said, look, here's something you should know.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
I I think that, like a lot of these guys,
are have some sort of routine or something. Maybe he's
listening to loud music or doing something crazy in the
room that is counterintuitive to the best medical care. That
was definitely a storyline on scrubs.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
Uh turk was the surgeon and the surgeon they would
all like pick a song and dance to it.

Speaker 7 (40:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (40:27):
Yeah, So bart Ryder is dead now. And that was
his wife you just heard. Yeah, how old was bart
rye fifty six? Okay, it's pretty standard. Uh, not old,
but they do though it is a he had cardiac arrest.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
It could happen. But here's what the tip from a
doctor was not in the room called his wife and said.

Speaker 11 (40:48):
And so she hired a team of lawyers to take
depositions of the surgeon, doctor Stark Johnson and the anesthesiologist,
doctor Michael Urban, who then asked both if the tip was.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
Now that's tricky too, because it sounds like Michael Michael
Urban is the anhesiologist, Stark Johnson is the doctor Okay Johnson.

Speaker 11 (41:05):
And the anesthesiologist, doctor Michael Urban, who then asked both
if the tip was true, were you.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Playing music bingo? During bart Rider's February third, twenty twenty
three cataract surgery.

Speaker 5 (41:17):
Yes, music bingo bingo, you do that at breweries. I'm sorry,
I'm not laughing at the death.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
No, no, but this is a wild story. Okay, they're okay,
just Devil's Advocate Air. They're they're in there all the time.
They're trying to keep fresh and they're they're just doing
I mean, you're getting they're listening to music anyways. Yeah,
and so it's just like, who's the first person that
can name the song? Yeah, all songs of the eyes. No,

(41:49):
it's not even they have bingo cards. If the song plays,
they just put a beat on it.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
Yeah, but it's all eye songs because they're doing cataract surgery.
It's like, oh, somebody said big out and the guy
has a heart attack because he hears it while he's
knocked out.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
February third, twenty twenty three, cataract surgery. Yes, that's right.
We want to talk to you about the music Bingo game.

Speaker 11 (42:12):
A game they played routinely during these routine surgeries.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
O'ry bring the music what bingo game?

Speaker 10 (42:19):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Thank you?

Speaker 11 (42:20):
The team inside the surgery centers O r would listen
as songs played on doctor Urban's cell phone.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
I understand that you would keep score.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
I would usually, but not a score. We continually listened
to the radio, and we we categorize the songs mostly
seventies and eighties bands and musicians.

Speaker 4 (42:37):
They said, so's an example if the seventies groups a
sad song that would be a.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Letter of beat B was for the Beg's.

Speaker 5 (42:48):
Barry Manilow and for Neil Young Gee for Gladys Knight.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
You get the idea.

Speaker 11 (42:54):
And no one immediately noticed his skin turning blue, a
telltale sign ofxygen deprivation.

Speaker 5 (43:01):
He died, died, good.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Gone awful.

Speaker 4 (43:08):
I hope Mark Ryder's wife and kids get tons of
money for this will only fifty six. They will music
fingo and they got a tip from another doctors like,
I know they've been playing music bingo because we do
it too. We do it right, we do musing jeopardy.
But it's God, that's a crazy, crazy story, all right.

(43:28):
Coming up, NeXT's the Today Game.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
It's less than three minutes away, or just over three minutes,
and it's the only segment today that won't be podcasted.
Then we got an update on beef prices. Beef meat
is soaring. We'll talk about that next. It's time all right,
we're gonna finish this real quick.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
The Axios bracket, where they asked the readers in Houston,
San Antonio, Austin, and Dallas, what's the most iconic Texas food?
Started sixteen or so down to the final four. I
can tell you now that the championship round has happened,
the voting has stopped. So we ended up with smoked
brisket versus caso.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
We all voted. I think we ended up I think
y'all three to one me on that and went with brisket.

Speaker 4 (44:14):
Yeah, smoked brisket seventy over kso, so smoked brisket goes
to the finals, right, And my problem with that is
you can find it's it's way more easy to find
bad brisket than bad caso. You can find bad both.
But well, okay, but smoke brisket A lot of places

(44:37):
do it great. All right, what about Jack Park nachos?
I love ricos cheese, they just get cold. You just
got to tear it up. But like, what about the
caso at Cafe Brazil.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
You're not gonna want that. Well, honestly, I enjoyed it fine.

Speaker 5 (44:52):
I thought it was broccoli cheese suit that had been
sitting on a counter.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
I drink a lot. YEP, breakfast taco. It was against
pecan pie. I think what we do? We end up
on a Yeah, we knew this. It was pecan pie
versus brisket in the finals. We know that. But you
know that today we picked breakfast tacos yep, and they
picked they picked pecan pie. No, breakfast tacos won seventy

(45:18):
six percent?

Speaker 3 (45:19):
Really, is that what happened?

Speaker 1 (45:21):
That's exactly what.

Speaker 5 (45:21):
Happened, looking at it right now, seventy six percent.

Speaker 4 (45:23):
Oh okay, And that's why the voting would get I
think they shut off the voting at two pm today
for the finals that will reveal tomorrow. Smoked brisket versus
breakfast tacos feels like smoke Brisket's probably gonna run away
with this thing they've been smoking everyone.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
We're Texans. Are the first person who said, hey man,
let's put all that breakfast stuff on a tortilla? Are
we the first?

Speaker 4 (45:43):
I mean, you're saying it's a Texan, right, what is it?
It's made it to the finals as a breakfast taco. Yeah,
what's the difference to a breakfast taco and breakfast burrito? Well,
one's a taco and one's a burrito. A burrito almost
ninety nine percent of the time a burrito has beans
in it. Tacos generally do not have beans in it.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Think about it like this. A taco is like a
joint that's not been rolled. It's just open the sun
roof's open. Yeah. But a burrito, it's sealed up nice
and tight. Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 5 (46:17):
Have you ever seen the guy Chipotle like lick the
edge of the torchy and no, I haven't.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
I should go.

Speaker 4 (46:23):
I've been trying to go to that Chipotle that Scotti
shuffer goes to, but you can't find it.

Speaker 5 (46:27):
Can't find it. If you want to tell you, have
you guys heard about what's happening with beef? It's what's
for dinner, beef.

Speaker 4 (46:35):
It's what's for dinner. Beef prices are soaring and they're
at a record high. They've passed six dollars a pound
for the first time since they started keeping records on this,
which is in the eighties.

Speaker 5 (46:48):
They just didn't keep a record of it before nineteen eighty.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
The drought is a part of this, so it's made
cattle feed more expensive, so you can't fatten up these cows.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (46:59):
It's led a ranchers to send more cattle to the
slaughterhouse to try and make up the difference. So they're
sending the cows out before they're all fattened up as
fat as they can get. The number of beef cattle
in the US is at it's lowest since nineteen sixty one.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (47:14):
It says the USDA is also a halted imports of
cattle from Mexico over concerns about a parasitic fly.

Speaker 5 (47:21):
We did the story months ago. And then you've got
the tariff situation.

Speaker 4 (47:25):
There's a Trump has fifty percent tariffs on Brazil, set
this start in August, and that could drive prices up
even more. Because South America is a major supplier of beef.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
I would think that Trump is a big steakhouse guy,
and so he's probably at the last minute gonna not
do anything to hurt the steakhouse industry. That's what's been happening, right,
Like the tariff's like right when he gets to the deadline,
it's like that gets negotiated down and then yeah, yeah,
but I bet when he goes to Texas Roadhouse, they
comp him some of the best roles I've ever had

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is here.

Speaker 4 (48:00):
Make sure he gets extra roles. Dude, Texas Roadhouse and
the rolls in the butter. Whatever they're doing, it's so good.
Whatever you're doing.

Speaker 5 (48:07):
You know what, stop it, because you're gonna make me
have a art of that.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
I'm gonna text my family right now and see if
they want to do Texas Roadhouse for dinner. It's so good,
and somehow it's incredibly reasonably priced.

Speaker 4 (48:17):
I can go just have the rolls, get my tab,
which would be nothing, but tip them favorably for the
delicious rolls in butter, and walk out and then probably
have a bet of stomach ache later because they ate
too much of that sweet butter.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
God, it's good.

Speaker 5 (48:30):
Oh it's so good, all so good. Never one roll again.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
I don't know how they price them like that, because
a lot of places you go get a steak that good,
it's gonna be crazy expensive. It might be hardvark or something.
It might be a separate kind of meat that's still
really good. Right, they'd never do that, not Texas. That's
like some Vermont Roadhouse stuff they'd try. You guys want
some hard bark steak.

Speaker 4 (48:50):
I think they're just dealing fair. I think they're straight shooters.
They're straight shooters over there at Texas Roadhouse. We'd love
to see you.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
What all right? We'd love to see Are you coming
up next? We're just three minutes away from the weekly
weekday update. What about the time KT interviewed hul Cogan.
That's next? Are you excited? Weday Day? Featuring veteran news
anchor KT fun tweet Yes, the Big News today.

Speaker 4 (49:21):
The nineteen eighty eight Kids Choice Award winner for Favorite
Male Athlete, Hulk Cogan oh Man, is dead at the
age of seventy one.

Speaker 5 (49:30):
That is not the way he needs to be remembered, Kevin.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
He was also.

Speaker 4 (49:36):
Twenty eighteen Boys and Girls Club of America Alumni Hall
of Fame Old Cogan dead at the age of seventy one.
Hulk Cogan one of the most famous wrestlers of all time.
I remember me growing up, you know, and I was
you know, didn't have experience the local Von Eric situation.
I do remember and not being a wrestling fan, but
he was kind of to me the face of wrestling

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for many years.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
He was when I got into wrestling.

Speaker 4 (50:00):
For two or three years, he was not even a
part of the people that I watched, But he was
just the overarching figure of wrestling.

Speaker 5 (50:06):
In the late eighties.

Speaker 4 (50:07):
He was far and away the biggest star of wrestling,
and it wasn't even I would push that into the nineties.

Speaker 5 (50:13):
I would.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
I'm not saying he's not. I'm just saying from the
time that I remember him being that big of a
presence mid eighties till the end of the eighties, I'm
telling you, man, that dumb song was in heavy rotation
on MTV. I mean heavy rotation.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
Is that when Hulk Manias started, Like when did the
official Hulk manius?

Speaker 4 (50:30):
I bet eighty five it would be my guess eighty
four eighty five. Somewhere in there, Christina, did you say
that you had to run in with the Hulk? I
did meet the Hulk once. Hulk Hogan.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
This was god, I would say probably twenty ten, twenty eleven,
and I was dating guy, a guy who worked for
Kid Kratick at the time, and they had some big
wrestling event in Hulk Hogan for what avera of reason
was there and he, I guess he was announcing it.
I don't really remember. I just remember having a picture
with Hulko.

Speaker 5 (51:00):
Wow was big Al jealous. Yeah, she was dating big Al.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
She was dating someone from the Kid.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
He worked behind the scenes. He's a giant jerk. I'd
rather not.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
Man. You brought it up.

Speaker 5 (51:17):
She didn't bring it up.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
She brought it up.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
Would I be at a Kid Crawdic wrestling event.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
I don't know, because they're both great things wrestling and
both great things. I know the guy and Will Concur.

Speaker 5 (51:28):
Oh his name is will will Concur.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
Yeah, Will Concur a terrible guy.

Speaker 5 (51:33):
William Concur.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
He did yell at me one time, a long time
before I ever met.

Speaker 4 (51:38):
Thanks for bringing it up, dude, Probably too much, too
much on him, especially the five o'clock what time are
we doing the same?

Speaker 10 (51:45):
That guy?

Speaker 4 (51:47):
I had a uh an opportunity uh to hang out
with hul Cogan. In fact, it was a contest where
you try to take the shirt off without ripping it.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Uh. He used to do his chest.

Speaker 4 (51:58):
The last time I saw a Hulk in person, he
was trying to do the tank top rip over his
chest and he couldn't do it.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Is at that Trump rally and it was like, oh no,
the Hulks lost his fastball. He what were you doing
at that Trump rally.

Speaker 5 (52:11):
No, no, this was this is ten years ago and
it was there to see Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
I just see my people.

Speaker 4 (52:15):
So you was it a wicking shirt and it was
a tricky material. I don't know about that since ten
years ago. And they were gonna have rustle Mania for
the first time at at and T Stadium, and I
believe I left our show and the fan that day
to go interview hul Kogan. So I was like on
the drive over maybe in the days before, going Okay,
I'm gonna do some type of bit.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
I knew I was gonna get about one or two
minutes with him. Early on the show. I think I
was probably encouraged to go yes.

Speaker 4 (52:44):
But the time we were playing a lot of a
drop on our show of Too Tall Jones, where he
said he was in some commercials and he would say
things like absolutely.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Lots of things with too Tall.

Speaker 4 (52:56):
So I was like, Okay, if I could get him
to maybe say a too Tall drop, that would be amazing,
but it's probably not gonna happen. Pretty nervous a lot
of people, and a lot of people were excited to
be getting some time with Hulk. Hulk at that point
in my life means literally nothing to me.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
I know he's a big figure and I.

Speaker 4 (53:13):
Can respect that, like six seven and outside of that,
it's his fame. But I was like, you know, okay,
it's not my thing, not wrestling guy, So I'm not
really taking this as serious as I should.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
But I was nervous. And here's my forty five seconds.

Speaker 4 (53:27):
With Hulk when he saw I had two tall Jones,
of course, and then the manster Randy White, Which one
would you rather fight?

Speaker 10 (53:37):
Well, I'd find either one of them. If I was
a bad guy, then I could see, of course, then
I could cheat. You know, Randy's got a grip. I
met him in the back. Hebout broke my hand when
he shook my hand. The two talls just too big,
so I wouldn't want to find either one of them.
But if us above you, I'd probably hit him with
some brass knufice or something.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
So it's even the playing field, it's a contact sported
any right.

Speaker 10 (53:56):
Yeah sure it was brother.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
Yea is brother because in that TUTA commercial he says
it's a context sport, a dinning level talk about football. Yeah,
clearly it is. But I was thinking, I told my
wife this is morning. I said, you gotta understand with
Paul Coogan. I'm on the short list of people that
he's brother. Yeah, like short list, long list, but you're

(54:20):
on it. Not a long lists of humanity. It's a
shortness but in general, but it's a good list.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
To be on right now. Now, I could be on
the Epstein files. Probably not, but I could be. I
think of every single man he ever met after the
age of eighteen, he brothered them. So it just depends
on how many men that he met. Well, I'm on
the list and you're not. The brother has been released today,
Kevin Turner one of the names something. It's a context sport,
a dinning level, right, yeah.

Speaker 10 (54:47):
Yeah, sure his brothers to bring up.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Yeah, that sounds it sounds kind of painful. Actually, you've
never been hurt. Will you put me in a headlock
or something?

Speaker 7 (54:56):
And you.

Speaker 9 (54:58):
All right?

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Taking very much a circuit.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
I can't do that, Okay.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
I want to hear. I want to hear the first
question because I want to know what accident it is
and Australians, some of the words are not fully formed.
I think I was gonna do is if I get
into the Australian.

Speaker 5 (55:16):
Thing or what are you scared?

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Terrified?

Speaker 5 (55:19):
Let me hear it to start?

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Leave me alone? No, you're good. I want to know.

Speaker 5 (55:26):
I want to know what the words are?

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Too tall Jones of course? And the Master Randy White,
which one would you rather find?

Speaker 5 (55:33):
Did you call him? Senator? Mister? What is the what
are those words?

Speaker 1 (55:37):
Don't worry about it? What were you trying to say?
I'm looking at the clock and all right? So much
all coming up next a brand new segment, the Gig Guide.
What are the shows coming to town you need to
know about? And does the head coach of the Dallas
Cowboys have giant coconuts? All that's coming your way next?

(56:12):
All right, here we go the gig Guy. Uh, tons
of crap to do right all throughout the Metroplex. So
let's kind of get going on that tonight Rubber Gloves
and Denton. There's a band called two hundred stab Wounds playing,
but get there early because the opening act is vomit fourth.

(56:33):
How many times have you guys been to Rubber Gloves
and your time in Denton?

Speaker 10 (56:37):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (56:37):
Man, I was there.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
I was there not too long ago for one of
our oatmeal pizza shows. Oh you guys played there recently.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
But yeah, so, I mean maybe five times.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
I would have thought you would have been there more, really,
man before they re and I haven't been there since
I've redone it. Yeah, man, a buddy of mine, but
in fact a buddy of mine and Ben's. He produced
a song on Ben's album, but he wanted to get
us involved in buying the Rubber Rubber Gloves rehearsal space
because it's a legendary venue.

Speaker 4 (57:06):
You just couldn't pull it all together. Tomorrow at Hyenas
in Dallas, Tom Arnold w yes, and the name of
his tour is my crazy ex wife Tour. Okay, he's
riding the Roseanne thing. He's probably got three other after her.
Have we ever had him on our show?

Speaker 1 (57:23):
I think we did. I don't remember it.

Speaker 4 (57:25):
I think he was John Daily. He might have did
it before y'all, before I was with you guys, maybe
at ESPN because he hadn't been the relevant. He's also
Saturday at Hyenas and four worth Tom Arnold. Everyone wants
to see Tom Arnold. Is he gonna do the Austin
Powers bit?

Speaker 1 (57:39):
I hope?

Speaker 4 (57:39):
So he's good good, He's in the best damn sports
show period too, when we had comedians into shows. Oh,
John Sally with him John Sally, DeMarco Farr, Chris Rose.
Tomorrow Ferris Wheelers. There's a cover band playing. I put
this in here for skin the Iron Maidens. WHOA, so
it's probably chicks doing Iron Maiden.

Speaker 5 (57:57):
Yeah, it's females doing Maiden.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
That's cool.

Speaker 4 (57:59):
Oh, that's great. Ferris Wheelers is a cool place. Tomorrow
at Southside Ballroom. The Fray is in town. If you
like songs about saving lives, they're like one of those
snow patrol bands, right mellow, Yeah there. I would define
them as a scrub soundtrack band. We've been given oh yeah,
Tomorrow and Saturday at the Dallas Comedy Club. Roj Sharma

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doing some comedy you used to work with.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
Good Dude, Good Dude.

Speaker 4 (58:25):
Monday, the twenty eight. We've been giving away tickets to
this all week. A vull beaten hailstorm that's at the
tour out of Music Factory.

Speaker 5 (58:31):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
By the way, there's one person that's winning this week
that went to meet and greet too.

Speaker 4 (58:37):
Incredible when known as Big Brown Beaver will be in
attendance Wednesday the thirtieth at the Bomb factory for Primus.

Speaker 5 (58:44):
Uh, okay, when is that Wednesday? I've never seen Primus.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
Somebody been giving away tickets to that all the way,
Is that right?

Speaker 5 (58:52):
I should have tried to win some.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:54):
Next Thursday at Club Dotta, Kyle Mooney will take the
stage at the same place that Christina and I've taken
the stage many time.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
He too an.

Speaker 5 (59:02):
Incredible anytime Kyle Mooney.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
His album is so bad but good but bad. I
will be very interested to hear what Kyle Mooney thinks
of the construction in dp ellum. I have an Instagram
account that I follow that's just Kyle Mooney highlights, so good,
pretty good lovee walks up to people in mumbles questions
and they don't even know how to process what he's doing,
and then he hugs them at the end of awkward Hug.

Speaker 5 (59:27):
Friday, August the first at the Kessler.

Speaker 4 (59:29):
It is class Clowns at the Kessler, a bunch of comedians,
a little funny time show.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
Yeah, man, that's a I so I've never seen a
comedy show at the Kestler, but that's a great venue
for it.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
And one of our buddies, Raphael I think, is involved
as a promoter of that. All right, that's cool.

Speaker 4 (59:47):
Friday August first at the Kessler Class Clowns, go see
him excellent.

Speaker 5 (59:51):
I love comedy.

Speaker 4 (59:53):
I'm gonna get one out of the way at the
ballpark your Saturday August second at Global I Field will
be My Chemical Romance and Garbage is opening.

Speaker 5 (59:59):
That's gonna be a huge show. They haven't played in forever.

Speaker 4 (01:00:02):
I think those have been sold out for a long
time too. So is it the original lineup of Garbage?

Speaker 10 (01:00:09):
Like?

Speaker 5 (01:00:09):
Is it Butcher Vig and Man you're bearing the lead
my Chemical Romance?

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
Yeah, it's huge.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
No, I get it.

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
But Garbage is from like the early to mid nineties.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
I don't know, Actually don't know. Okay, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:00:21):
And then uh chuck taw pumping out all kinds of
good stuff. So Sunday the third, it's going to be
the Counting Crows with openers, the gaslight anthem.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Hell, yes, I'm considering.

Speaker 10 (01:00:35):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
What is the name of Homie from Counting Crows? The
lead singer Adam Duritz, you know who? He was big
buddies with. I think we've talked about this on the air.
He's super tight with Ray Davis's son oh, Steven Davis,
they're big buddies.

Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
Only that BFD headliner Chevelle's playing there August ninth. Damn,
I was going to do this new Oh my god,
how about Queen's Reichen and Ace Freeley on Friday fifteenth?

Speaker 5 (01:00:59):
Are you serious?

Speaker 4 (01:01:00):
Darius Rucker on the twenty second Wait wait, when is
the Queen's Reke show the fifteenth of August?

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Yeah? Oh my god, man, I have seen Queen's Reike
in concert, but it's it's before they got huge, It's
before silent lucidity.

Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
Someone needs to contact Dak Prescott because train will be
there Thursday, August twenty eight, and Dak loves training.

Speaker 5 (01:01:20):
He does, so he does in a bunch of good
stuff over at.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Chalk Taw My goodness, they always have good Oh and
by the way, we're gonna be at the Chalk Talk
Casino in Resort during Oklahoma one week from tomorrow, August first.

Speaker 5 (01:01:33):
We'll be doing our show from thirty six.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Go hell yes, all right? Coming up next in the
big finish just three minutes away. Does the Cowboys head
coach have bigger coconuts than we thought? Don't miss this
Spin and Skin Show ninety one point one the Eagle.
Thank you for hanging out with us today. Big Friday
show tomorrow, and it'll be your last chance to win
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this week is going to get that meet and greet action.

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How cool is that? For?

Speaker 5 (01:02:00):
Right now, it'd be time for this.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Kill The thing's big. I thought you guys would like this.

Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
It's an article that dropped yesterday on The Athletic from
a guy named Mike Silver, who's a good reporter. Yeah,
and it's about Brian Schottenheimer.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
And hold on, Mike Silver is the guy that Hannah's
Storm was buddies with, isn't that yep?

Speaker 10 (01:02:21):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:02:22):
Yeah, he good.

Speaker 4 (01:02:23):
So let's go back to January two thousand and seven.
The Dolphins had this situation where Nick Saban just abruptly
left to go to Alabama, and so they're needing to
coach and Brian Schottenheimer at the time is a play
caller for the New York Jets. So the Dolphins owner
flies up there private playing to go see Brian Schottenheimer
and he's sitting there and listening and he's like, Schottenheimer's like, man,

(01:02:48):
I think I'm pretty good at what I'm doing right now,
I think there will be more opportunities for me. So
he ends up declining the Dolphins job in O seven,
so he could have been a head coach in two
thousand and seven they.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Offered him the gig and O seven, Yeah, is at
that time? Isn't Jason Garrett on that staff as the
quarterback coach? You know, that's a good question.

Speaker 4 (01:03:05):
I don't even I don't know if that timeline matches up,
because but it might.

Speaker 5 (01:03:09):
That's how Jason Garrett got hooked up with Nick Saban.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
He was Saban's quarterback coach in Miami before Saban went
to Alabama, and that's where all that connection is.

Speaker 4 (01:03:18):
That sounds like that could probably probably mesh, Yeah, looks
like it. Yeah, coach, No, Jason and O seven was
the offensive coordinator with the Cowboys. Oh he was the Yeah,
he was the QB coach of the offense before that.

Speaker 10 (01:03:30):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:03:30):
Five and O six though, Okay, so okay, gotcha. So
the O six season had just ended and that's when
that happened. Three years later, Schottenheimer had a clear path
to the Bill's head coaching job. He says in the interview, said,
I was a little naive. I assumed it would always happen,
But what I've learned is it's never guaranteed.

Speaker 7 (01:03:49):
He did.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
He turned down the Bills job in twenty ten. Oh
so he's turned down two good AFC East jobs. Why well,
he the Bills he had trepidation about.

Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
The Buffalo is not great, and he just kind of thought,
I'm gonna get an opportunity.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
That makes sense. Now, I want you guys to know this.

Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
In ninety seven he was an assistant for the Rams,
ninety eight, assistant for the Chiefs, ninety nine wide receivers,
coach for the Syracuse for Syracuse in college two thousand,
tight ends coach for USC one, QB coach for Washington. Uh,
then he was the QB coach with the Chargers. He
bounced around before he got his head coaches for ten years.
He's put in his time.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
We all know that. Yeah, but why was he bouncing
around so much? I wonder?

Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
Uh, Well, a couple of them was just like a
better opportunity and maybe a pay raise as well.

Speaker 5 (01:04:36):
Yeah, thought his dad step up.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
Once he got to one.

Speaker 4 (01:04:39):
He followed his dad, So was his dad in Washington
and then with the Chargers when he went there to
end his career, so he basically this article is like
he learned the hard way, and he spent the next
fifteen years going, am I ever going to get to
be a coach even though he's put in a lot
of time here. Last January, Jerry and the other decision
makers were pondering whether to keep McCarthy. Who all know this,

(01:05:02):
but they began talking about shoddy Shoty didn't see it coming.
He's doing his end of season, you know, the self
scout report basically and go in and just have the
big evaluation. And Steven said, at first he was wearing
his coaching stuff, but then he started, you know, the
report started coming out. He started wearing like a suit
and tie to the office. He knew he's got a
chance to get the job. Oh wow, but it's been

(01:05:25):
a dozen hiring cycles since he had gotten a formal
head coaching interview. Will mcclay's quoted in the article saying
the unique thing about him is he is the old
whiz kid.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
Back then.

Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
He was the whiz kid before all the new whiz
kids came up. So like he was the next hot name,
the hot young play caller. In this article, he's referred
to as the Sean McVay before Sean McVay, which I've
never thought of him as that, but that's where we are.
Despite Marty was known for kind of being a hard
ass and a disciplinarian.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
He is.

Speaker 4 (01:05:58):
He takes his leadership stylector Pete Carroll and Dan Quinn.
So Mike is gonna love Brian Schottenheimer. Well, he's already
been around him though, right, Yeah, of course a little bit.
But it's all about like staying positive and hiving high
energy and all that stuff. Pete Carroll's known for that,
right to his assistant in Washington and O five he's
with the Chargers. He interviewed for the Ravens jobs in seven,

(01:06:19):
but they hired John Harbaugh. Okay, he got beat out. Tough,
good guy who won Super Bowl. The Jets hired Rex
Ryan and he because he was trying to get that job.
And then but he's like, okay, so he's the OC,
and they're like, we want to run the ball because
we have Mark Sanchez and we have a good defense.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
They go to the AFC.

Speaker 4 (01:06:37):
Championship Game twice in a row with him calling plays. Okay,
so that's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
Pretty good? You fast forward to twenty eighteen.

Speaker 4 (01:06:46):
He's with Seattle, but he got an interview to get
the Bengals job, but they gave it to Zach Taylor
because Zach Taylor was in the Sean McVay coaching tree.
So that's where another opportunity that goes there for him,
and like no, he basically got caught between the Pete
Carroll Russell Wilson falling out and the situation goes like this.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
He gets along with.

Speaker 4 (01:07:09):
Pete Carroll now, but Pete Carroll did have to fire
him early in the twenty twenty season. Russell Wilson, who
has been named the New York Giants starting quarterback. By
the way, Russell openly spoke about wanting to be the
league MVP. And Russell's got his own team and does
his own thing, and that's where the let Russ Cook
things started. Russ's team put that and then the fans

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and media started running with it. So it got bad
when let Russ Cook is happening and Schottenheimer's calling more
pass plays than he would like to, and you're kind
of getting outside of managing the game. Russ starts playing
russ Ball and throwing interceptions and things like that. So
Pete Carroll's like, I don't recognize the offense, dude, we
gotta fire you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
So he's got to go. And I never had clarity
on that.

Speaker 4 (01:07:54):
I thought it was a situation where everyone was mad
at Shottenheimer because he's forcing the run. It's not really
so much that. It's that Russ had so much power
in the dynamic in the organization. And that's why I
think it's interesting that Schottenheimer and Pete Carroll get along
great now because I had always kind of wondered if
that was bad.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
So it's good to know stuff you didn't know, right,
So is the idea that Russ was making in the
offense whatever he wanted it to be, so it didn't
matter who the coordinator was. The quarterback had so much power, yeah,
to get audible and whatever he wants pretty much.

Speaker 4 (01:08:25):
And then you know, you're kind of you're working because
Russ is good at the time, still you're kind of
he can we win games and keep everyone happy, and
that's what Schattenheimer was trying to do. So following that
season in which Seattle won the NFC West and put
up more points than anytime they had Enfranchise history Schottenheimer
got fired.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
They were a good offense and he got fired, and
I didn't realize that. I'd never think about that stuff. Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:08:49):
Then his dad was in hospice, right, he was going
to sit out twenty twenty one. But then he starts
getting beat up over the text by urban Meyer because
urban Meyer was getting the Jacksonville Jaguars yet. And he's like, man,
I don't know, so, guys didn't take the year off.
My dad's kind of dying here. Urban Meyer's relentless. Come on, man,
this will be great. This is what your dad would
have wanted. You get a chance to coach a number

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one pick. This will be great. Come on, come on.
So he takes the job with encouragement from his wife
and Marty's wife Pat. He takes the job in Jacksonville shot.
He said in the article, my gut told me not
to do it, Okay, But then he's like he got
told basically his wife and Marty's wife.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
His mom talked him into it.

Speaker 4 (01:09:32):
So then, man, urban Meyer is such a bus It's
so bad. He's such a butthole. This is where I
think you guys are gonna love Shoddy, or at least
start to like him. At least I'm gonna read this
prayrif to you. In retrospect, Brian Schttenheimer wishes he'd turn
around and run the other direction. He later learned that
urban Meyer had already offered former Chargers coach Mike McCoy

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the job as quarterbacks coach, so he'd already given the
job to someone else, or offered the job to someone
else while he was offering the job to Brian Schottenheimer,
and that McCoy had been working in the team facility
for several days while urban Meyer was still texting shot
He trying to him to come in.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
Why is he doing that?

Speaker 4 (01:10:10):
So Mike McCoy was already there. So he gets there
and Mike McCoy's already there. He's like, oh, I've been
here for a week.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
He's like what.

Speaker 4 (01:10:16):
So Schottenheimer called it an s show, So there was
a big disaster. We all remember the thing at the
steakhouse when urban Meyer chose to not fly home with
the team after Thursday night football and it's grinding on
the college girl the.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
Co ed at the bar, and she lets it out there.

Speaker 5 (01:10:31):
It was coldplay before coldplay.

Speaker 4 (01:10:32):
They said it was a steady stream of mistrusted bullying
in Jacksonville. But there's a meeting, a coaches meeting in November,
and according to a witness there, Urban Meyer but rated
all his assistants. He's calling them out one by one,
what have you ever won? Most of them stammered in response.

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Then he singles out Brian Schottenheimer, and Brian Schottenheimer goes,
I've won everywhere I've been.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
Up to the bully in charge.

Speaker 4 (01:11:03):
Then you know, Urvin Mayer got fired a month later,
so he had the balls to go up to Iurvin Meyer,
his boss at the time, and say.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
I went everywhere. You're not gonna do this to me.

Speaker 4 (01:11:14):
This got me excited for Brian Schottenheimer, and I have
no idea what the offense is gonna look like. The
early reports from camp is that they're using a lot
of motion and they're moving guys around, and you need
to say whatever they're on pads, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
We won't know until it's time.

Speaker 4 (01:11:24):
But he's not some bubbling idiot that he's kind of
been turned into because he hadn't been a head coach before.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
You know, my favorite thing that I mean, you don't
want to put too much on clips you see. Well,
one of my favorite things that I've seen coming out
of camp is turping as a running back. I just
think you figure out ways to get that guy of
the ball and give him a sliver of space and
big plays can happen. You know, they're going to be
able to throw the ball.

Speaker 4 (01:11:46):
M I mean, if Dak stays healthy, if they can
block the tackles could be bad that they can buy
him a little time.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
But you've got two elite receivers now, not just one.
I just don't think they're gonna be able to run
the ball. I think that's going to be their biggest issue.
But yeah, man, that is definitely encouraging. That's a lot
of positive stuff for him. That's beyond just having a
cool nickname. That's a ah my good stuff.

Speaker 10 (01:12:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
I'll never forget the time the KT looked urban Meyer
dead in his cold black eyes and he said to him,
the Pune is a bit of a mystery. And urban
Meyer said not to me, and he started grinding on everything. Uh, Christina,
you got to stick around, play some music till ten
o'clock again.

Speaker 5 (01:12:24):
All right, Christina's next right here on the eagle.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
Here you going, well, I want to get my sock back. Dude,
wi's the beef