September 15, 2025 • 6 mins
"Why do we find ourselves watching competitive kickball at 1 a.m. — and why can’t we look away?"In this hilariously offbeat episode of The Ben and Skin Show, hosts Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray dive headfirst into the strange and mesmerizing world of late-night TV — specifically, the bizarre brilliance of ESPN’s The Ocho.What starts as a casual conversation about falling asleep with the TV on quickly spirals into a deep dive on the Kickball Invitational, complete with drone shots, bunting strategy, and a 320-pound pitcher wearing a headband and rocking jersey number 69. Skin’s late-night viewing experience becomes a full-blown breakdown of the Ocho’s most absurd programming — from corgi races to the Microsoft Excel Challenge and even Pop-A-Shot legends like former Cowboys QB Brad Johnson.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Another edition of things is tracking you guys go to
sleep with the TV on.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
I can't go to sleep with the TV on, not
at all. It's gotta be off. It's gotta be off dark.
If it's on, I'm awake and I'm watching it and
I can't go to sleep. Okay, I mean I kind
of experience that, but I also like, I don't know,
I like putting it on, usually on some sort of
news program where there's droning going on, and I can
fall asleep in a couple of minutes.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
It's I don't know that kind of sound.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
But you know, there is the moment where you're flipping around,
you're tired, probably it's way too late, and you're like,
all right, let's just see what's on. It may be
different for young people because none of them have cable
anymore and they have to jump in and out of
apps to get anything.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yeah, yeah, okay for me and Ben, I'm assuming you
still have your same setup, flipping around a guide and
I don't know what channel.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Of ESPN it was, and I don't know what time
it was.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I think it was after one am last night, after
I know, and I settled on something. I was like,
what is this and it actually in the background it
said the ocho.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Oh yeah, hell yeah, okay, that's real. Oh yeah, the
ocho is great. There is an oho. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
ESPN the show I think, I'm I'm assuming they're they're
doing a bit based on dodgeball, obviously, and they kind
of like for certain programming, there's not an actual.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Es Chadow show.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Yeah, it's certain of yeah yeah, but the Chatto Cho
Cinco program some of this stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
So I'm watching it and I'm like, are they playing kickball? No, dude, dog,
come on, this is good. Stuff is great.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Grizzlies versus Panthers last night and the Kickball Invitational, uh huh.
And man, here's what's amazing about it. So you're you're
watching it going, okay, this was organized. There's drone shots,
there's two teams, they all have matching jerseys, and it
definitely looks like co ed softball at the village. I mean,
(02:12):
there's all kinds of different people with different backgrounds, and
the thing that caught my eye is the guy who
was I guess you call him a pitcher and kickball Yeah, sure,
number sixty nine.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yes, he's wearing a headman.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
He's about three twenty and his style of firing that
ball up there. And here's the thing, I don't know.
I haven't played kickball since I was a kid, so
I don't really know the rules. But there's a lot
of kick bunting going on. Oh, like take advantage of
the big G. You've clearly I hear you over there.
(02:53):
You sound like an aficionado.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Well, I wouldn't say aficionado, but we watched it not
too long ago. Michael randomly put it on it. This
was the same channel where I saw them throwing a
football on a roof and it was a competition like
it was like you said, they were like drone shots,
like it was professionally done and I couldn't believe what
I was watching. But yes, we have watched kickball like
multiple times to where you just said, like you can
tell that they're kind of joking, but they are taking
(03:16):
it seriously. It's kind of like Savannah Bananas, you know. Yeah,
they always have something going on. You're like, I can't
believe football. I mean, kickball is on my TV right now.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I've seen professional whiffle ball and I have seen that
roofball game yep, And It does remind me of what
the South Park guys would they do.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Base caseball, basketball. I would watch kickball. That sounds like fun.
Can you imagine how good Brandon Aubrey would be at that?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Well?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
God, maybe is there no home runs? No, there's home runs.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
But it's also like a lot of side spin on
the ball, which is why I think so many people
are bunt kicking.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I don't know what are the rules. Can you throw
it as fast as you want? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I mean there, and there's have to bounce. There are
people take Okay, one ball bounced there?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Oh? Outse that one in there? Okay, So there's play
by play in color. Yeah, it's great. Don't know who
these people are.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
And I don't know at what point in the game,
I mean, I felt like the broadcast had been on
for ten minutes, and I don't know how many kickball
broadcasts it happened before.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
But at one point he was like, and I don't
remember what the guy's name.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
He's like, why don't you explain to everybody what that
dotted line triangle is in there? And so there's a
dotted line triangle and nobody can run into the zone
until the ball touches the foot and I'm like, I
guess anybody that watches or plays kickball would understand. That's
like going, hey, explain what that three point line is
out there for everybody just watching this game. So they're
(04:40):
trying to I mean, they weren't making jokes. They were
trying to sound like a legitimate broadcast. But after about
five minutes of action, I was like, man, this is
not entertaining.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I don't hold your attention. That's the thing about the
OCHO is it catch. It catches your attention for a minute, right,
and it's it's made for the phone.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
You know, you're you're scrolling through it. That's nothing made
for that.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
They had corky races one night though, Oh beautiful.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
These idiots get so close to the end and the
now stuff to look around and they fetch from behind.
They're all so cute.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
One time on the O Show they did the Microsoft
Excel Challenge.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
It's a bunch of nerds and they're doing spreadsheets. It
was great watch it. Yeah, no, they got me going,
how long did you watch it? Probably two or three.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Minutes because yeah, that's the thing. And I was watching
this until my wife was like, what are you watching?
And I go, I have no idea why I'm watching
this right now.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
You know what they did they did? You know, this
is crazy.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
The Papa Shot challenge and uh you know who is
like a legend.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
There was a guy here that played college basketball at
Texas Tech that was about a decade older than me.
That was the chant Forever former Cowboys quarterback Brad Johnson.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Really you see like back I know a lot of
people go backboard. Oh I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I would like to find out he's got like a
resume that like that's what he does now for money?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Let's get him on the show. It's crazy, my god. Anyways,
kickbo guys, all right, kickball, what would you have rather
had him watching last night?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Because you have watch it at one am when I'm tired, dude,
Come on, all right, there you have it. Things. Skin
is tracking
Another edition of things is tracking you guys go to
sleep with the TV on.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
I can't go to sleep with the TV on, not
at all. It's gotta be off. It's gotta be off dark.
If it's on, I'm awake and I'm watching it and
I can't go to sleep. Okay, I mean I kind
of experience that, but I also like, I don't know,
I like putting it on, usually on some sort of
news program where there's droning going on, and I can
fall asleep in a couple of minutes.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
It's I don't know that kind of sound.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
But you know, there is the moment where you're flipping around,
you're tired, probably it's way too late, and you're like,
all right, let's just see what's on. It may be
different for young people because none of them have cable
anymore and they have to jump in and out of
apps to get anything.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yeah, yeah, okay for me and Ben, I'm assuming you
still have your same setup, flipping around a guide and
I don't know what channel.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Of ESPN it was, and I don't know what time
it was.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I think it was after one am last night, after
I know, and I settled on something. I was like,
what is this and it actually in the background it
said the ocho.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Oh yeah, hell yeah, okay, that's real. Oh yeah, the
ocho is great. There is an oho. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
ESPN the show I think, I'm I'm assuming they're they're
doing a bit based on dodgeball, obviously, and they kind
of like for certain programming, there's not an actual.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Es Chadow show.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Yeah, it's certain of yeah yeah, but the Chatto Cho
Cinco program some of this stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
So I'm watching it and I'm like, are they playing kickball? No, dude, dog,
come on, this is good. Stuff is great.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Grizzlies versus Panthers last night and the Kickball Invitational, uh huh.
And man, here's what's amazing about it. So you're you're
watching it going, okay, this was organized. There's drone shots,
there's two teams, they all have matching jerseys, and it
definitely looks like co ed softball at the village. I mean,
(02:12):
there's all kinds of different people with different backgrounds, and
the thing that caught my eye is the guy who
was I guess you call him a pitcher and kickball Yeah, sure,
number sixty nine.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yes, he's wearing a headman.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
He's about three twenty and his style of firing that
ball up there. And here's the thing, I don't know.
I haven't played kickball since I was a kid, so
I don't really know the rules. But there's a lot
of kick bunting going on. Oh, like take advantage of
the big G. You've clearly I hear you over there.
(02:53):
You sound like an aficionado.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Well, I wouldn't say aficionado, but we watched it not
too long ago. Michael randomly put it on it. This
was the same channel where I saw them throwing a
football on a roof and it was a competition like
it was like you said, they were like drone shots,
like it was professionally done and I couldn't believe what
I was watching. But yes, we have watched kickball like
multiple times to where you just said, like you can
tell that they're kind of joking, but they are taking
(03:16):
it seriously. It's kind of like Savannah Bananas, you know. Yeah,
they always have something going on. You're like, I can't
believe football. I mean, kickball is on my TV right now.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I've seen professional whiffle ball and I have seen that
roofball game yep, And It does remind me of what
the South Park guys would they do.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Base caseball, basketball. I would watch kickball. That sounds like fun.
Can you imagine how good Brandon Aubrey would be at that?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Well?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
God, maybe is there no home runs? No, there's home runs.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
But it's also like a lot of side spin on
the ball, which is why I think so many people
are bunt kicking.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I don't know what are the rules. Can you throw
it as fast as you want? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I mean there, and there's have to bounce. There are
people take Okay, one ball bounced there?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Oh? Outse that one in there? Okay, So there's play
by play in color. Yeah, it's great. Don't know who
these people are.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
And I don't know at what point in the game,
I mean, I felt like the broadcast had been on
for ten minutes, and I don't know how many kickball
broadcasts it happened before.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
But at one point he was like, and I don't
remember what the guy's name.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
He's like, why don't you explain to everybody what that
dotted line triangle is in there? And so there's a
dotted line triangle and nobody can run into the zone
until the ball touches the foot and I'm like, I
guess anybody that watches or plays kickball would understand. That's
like going, hey, explain what that three point line is
out there for everybody just watching this game. So they're
(04:40):
trying to I mean, they weren't making jokes. They were
trying to sound like a legitimate broadcast. But after about
five minutes of action, I was like, man, this is
not entertaining.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I don't hold your attention. That's the thing about the
OCHO is it catch. It catches your attention for a minute, right,
and it's it's made for the phone.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
You know, you're you're scrolling through it. That's nothing made
for that.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
They had corky races one night though, Oh beautiful.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
These idiots get so close to the end and the
now stuff to look around and they fetch from behind.
They're all so cute.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
One time on the O Show they did the Microsoft
Excel Challenge.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
It's a bunch of nerds and they're doing spreadsheets. It
was great watch it. Yeah, no, they got me going,
how long did you watch it? Probably two or three.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Minutes because yeah, that's the thing. And I was watching
this until my wife was like, what are you watching?
And I go, I have no idea why I'm watching
this right now.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
You know what they did they did? You know, this
is crazy.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
The Papa Shot challenge and uh you know who is
like a legend.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
There was a guy here that played college basketball at
Texas Tech that was about a decade older than me.
That was the chant Forever former Cowboys quarterback Brad Johnson.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Really you see like back I know a lot of
people go backboard. Oh I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I would like to find out he's got like a
resume that like that's what he does now for money?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Let's get him on the show. It's crazy, my god. Anyways,
kickbo guys, all right, kickball, what would you have rather
had him watching last night?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Because you have watch it at one am when I'm tired, dude,
Come on, all right, there you have it. Things. Skin
is tracking
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