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September 15, 2025 14 mins
Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray break down one of the most bizarre, hilarious, and thrilling Cowboys games in recent memory.In this episode, the crew dives deep into the Cowboys’ 40-37 overtime win over the Giants, a game that somehow managed to be both a dramatic thriller and a slapstick comedy. From Brandon Aubrey’s ice-cold 70-yard leg to Russell Wilson’s baffling overtime meltdown, the gang dissects every chaotic twist and turn.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I won't do that.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
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the radio.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Mine growing on boy's skin in his hand, talking on
the radio.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
It's time to to response again.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
All baby we go, Kat just sting up and all
up on our radio. Ah. Yes, Happy Monday, everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
It's the world famous Ben and Skin Show ninety seven
point one the Eagle. Thank you for tuning in today
and every day. Thank you for making us a part
of your daily routine. I'm Ben Rogers, joined by Jeff
skin Wade, Kevin kt Turner, and Christina Carey. A little
baby corn bread ray. All hands on deck today and
it is a cowboy Monday. As the Cowboys got the
dub forty to thirty seven over the Giants. In overtime

(01:26):
and one of the weirdest and most enjoyable games to
watch I can remember in recent history that justifies paying
a kicker a lot of money, doesn't it. Yeah, I
mean give him the Supermax for kickers. I don't know
what it is, but like if you're that was the
first time in the history of the league that a
kicker hit a field goal to force overtime as the

(01:51):
clock expired and then walked it off with walked it
off with a field goal to win it as the
clock expiers, double clock expiration, regulation and overtime. And it's
one of those things where you're just strangely confident as
you see your kicker just standing around midfield and it
ain't no big deal. I mean, it's it is unbelievable,

(02:13):
But I remember, there's been so many seasons like this,
we really have no idea of anything, Like so far,
there's been four halves and the defense has been good
in one and men have they been terrible and the
other three. But you don't know anything about the opponents.

(02:33):
You think you know the giant suck Russell Wilson was
throwing dimes till he wasn't and Billy was good for
a half and then they weren't. We'll see, but man,
if we end up five hundred, if all those games
are that much fun, that's a pretty good NFL season
for me.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Uh okay, so yeah, you're right, six halves, four halves,
so six quarters also, but you didn't really get the
ball in the first quarter yesterday, so the offense they've
they're behind a little bit because of the twenty one
play one hundred and ten yard drive to start the game.
This game yesterday was the bear of the NFL. It

(03:15):
was a drama. But in the awards show at the
end of the year, it will go up for best
Comedy Game of the Year because that was a lot
of stupid stuff that happened yesterday. Incredibly twenty six penalties
but Shotty gets his first win and another tough loss
for Brian Banana bread day Ball. Oh my god, that's
such a good bit.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah it was.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
It was fun to watch, but it's uh, it's very
concerning how bad the Cowboys defense is. Like Russell Wilson,
they were about to bench him for their rookie just
because it's he's so hopeless at this point and so
bad at quarterbacking at this point in his career, and
he threw for four hundred and fifty yards against the Cowboys.

(03:54):
And I don't know if it's ibra Flus and his
scheme is terrible. I don't know if there's just no
talent on the defensive side part of this. I want
to give eber flu some grace because it's like at
the last minute before the season started, they took away
his best player and they built the whole defense around. Okay,
we're gonna get pressure with just four because Mike is
either gonna do it by himself or he's gonna require

(04:16):
a triple team, which is gonna make other people be
able to get to the quarterback. And it just feels
like they're playing a ton of zone defense while also
not getting any pressure. Okay, I feel like we've talked
about this before, maybe not, so there's zero reason to
have digs on the field if you're gonna play zone defense, right.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Like he's I remember that even before he got hurt.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
He's a man guy and he's just gonna chase somebody
around and he's gonna gamble, that's what he does. And
if you put him in his own he's just gonna
watch guys run around. I mean every one of those
big plays. He was somewhere in the frame watching a
guy run by him. It's insane. Well, he had a comment,
I'm sorry to cut you off there, Kat, this is
from your guy, John Mashoda.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
He had a quote from Trayvon Diggs when asked how
much of an improved pass rush with the addition of
Judeveon Clowney, who Jerry announced after the game that they
are signing, how much could Jujavion Clowney help the secondary,
He said, amazing, That's like a blessing. You need a
pass rush, especially when you play a lot of zone coverages.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
You need the pressure to get back there. The more pressure, the.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
More guys we can get to, the more guys we
can get to after the quarterback, the better defensively.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
They need to do whatever they did in the second
half against the Eagles, And it's two different teams, two
different game plans. What they did in the second half
against the Eagles is they stopped playing all zone on
every single play. And that's what they did. And maybe
it's a durn Bland thing because he got hurt, right,
and you're like trying to scheme in around him being
on but like, you gotta change some things at that point,

(05:50):
Like yesterday was very Uh, it was concerning because that
you would think, I know, it's just a second game too,
but you would think we're just at least not gonna
play all zone, Like I did not think that's what
we were signed up for with ebra Flus and so
far that's what we're doing.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
How do you get also, how do you let that
many fifty yard plays happen? Like I you know, it
happens every now and then, But at some point, if
you are gonna stay with what you're doing, you go, okay,
you need to go fifteen yards back, dude, Like and
they even talked about it. Olsham was talking about it
on the broadcast. All right, this is all based on
letting nobody somebody got behind him on everything.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Don and Wilson. It cannot be. They're playing him at
free safety and he's he can't do that. In fact,
he had an interception. Can I play this for you guys, Yeah,
if you aren't test the game the Cowboys little post
game party and Jerry's in the middle of it, okay, Uh,
But at the very end, I'm gonna pay all of it.
It's all pretty good. But at the very end of it, uh,
they shout out Donovan Wilson and even Shot. He's kind

(06:48):
of like, Donovan, you know, let me see here you
go here it is turn touchdown, yea.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Touchdown, touchdown.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
It's kind of like a Tourette's guy is just kind
of yelling names, picking.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Dog out to wait for it.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Who had a sack?

Speaker 2 (07:07):
James, who's out? Sign? Jenny Clark had a sun?

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (07:12):
And this son we got man? This field goal kicker.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
N fifty one yard field goal, forty four yard field goal,
Shickley four yard fiel.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Wait in overtime with the walk off.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
And Jerry's in the middle of it. Sorry, I guess
I edited out to Donald Wilson part earlier. I was
worried about Jerry's safety being in the middle of it. Heez,
just because he's fragile. Yeah, you know, So why did
they bring all those aggie yell leaders in there?

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Strange? That looked like the that sounded like the end
zone of an aggie game. Speaking of John though, John Show,
who you mentioned, did say like I was gonna be
very critical, but he was being outside of the locker
room after that, everyone was just happy. Yeah, they're thrilled
for their coach. And he's like, so, I'm not gonna
be too mad at him. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
I mean, look, it's still so early. It's hard to
it's hard to use what we've seen so far to
project what's going to happen moving forward. But it does
seem like the defense is going to be a slaughterhouse,
Like it's going to be a real problem. It is
weird that they can't get pressure at all without Micah
Marshawn Neland's second round pick, Donovan Ezeraku's second round pick,

(08:21):
Sam Williams second round pick. That's a lot of resources
built on being able to get to the quarterback.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
And Dante Fowler.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
They spent money on him as a free agent, and
so that was supposed to be the area of depth.
Yet they cannot pressure the quarterback with just four unless
it's Kenny Clark, who led the team with five pressures
yesterday as a defensive tackle. It's They're pretty damn good
up the middle. I mean, for now, at least with
their starters. All right, let's keep this conversation going. I

(08:51):
have another big cowboy question for you guys. And we'll
ask it net Ben in Skin Show ninety seven point one,
the Eagle coming up at the bottom of the hour.
In the Hollywood Shuffle, we'll talk about the Emmys last night.
Who was the big winner? The Cowboys were the big winner.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
Man.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
They had a dramatic overtime win off the leg of
Brandon Aubrey. My god, what a bomber. He is just incredible. Okay,
where is the yard marker where you guys start feeling
like we're good with I mean, if he's I mean
that Kicky hit to send it in an overtime would
have been good from seventy I mean, if he's looking

(09:27):
at a sixty yard or any I mean, I feel good.
I I seriously think they're going to get to a
point where if it's fourth down and they're at the
forty five yard line, their own forty five yard line,
depending on how long the distance is, you either kick
a field goal or go for it your own forty

(09:49):
five yard line. That's basically a seventy one yard field goal. Okay,
I think I'm okay with it.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
I have. I wrote this down in my old notes
that I took yesterday. I was taking always taking notes
that would have been a seventy four yard field goal
attempt on their second possession in overtime. Uh huh where
it was fourth and five? Because uh, it was third
nine and Dak through it to Jalen tolbts it's fourth
and five? Why did he too much? Till your dad

(10:18):
too much? Tilber got hurt?

Speaker 3 (10:20):
But although in Turpen's gonna get hurt, he's five to one,
seventy five pounds, deal got but dude, one of the
biggest catches of the day.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
So they it would have been a seventy four yarder,
and I was kind of going, it might be better, yeah,
to kick the field goal than to punt it back
to them. Now again, I also didn't know that Russell Wilson,
who had a great four quarters, was gonna throw the
ball behind him on the first drive and then make
the dumbest pass ever to make don interception staff he
was so bad in overtime. Yeah, and that's like, that's

(10:52):
those things, Like, Okay, it's one of those I'm glad
we have Dak games. Was like, who would you like,
it's very easy there, clearly Trussell Wilson been like, Dak
is not going to do anything crazy, stupid and overtime,
you know, like that that was nuts. The first drive
they had, second three, they were moving, they needed about
twenty twenty five more yards kick a field goal win
the game, and Russell threw it behind him. He threw it.

(11:13):
They lost fourteen yards on that place.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
He just threw it.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
So what happened was that I forgot that running back
from Arizona's Yeah damn scataboo Arizona State.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah, he's gonna be a fan favorite forever. Oh he is.
He's so drunk when he plays. They asked, uh, Shoddy
after the game, how far Aubrey can kick it?

Speaker 4 (11:30):
Rejected, Yeah, Daniel, we would try it from seventy ish.
I mean, we've seen him make those before. He's always like, yeah,
I'm good. Dak's always like, oh hey, what's the line
to make him? Like yeah, fifty ish, you know, yeah,
fifty ish. He's like, oh okay, that's like a sixty
seven seven yard field goal, Like that's cool. So there's
really not one, but the confidence that you see the
guy kick with is just incredible.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
So seventy is what they would try.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
But in overtime, if you miss, you're basically giving them
giving the field goal. Yeah, I may just bring the
picking team out immediately on the first down. I mean,
with your with your defense being as bad as it
had been when it was your right when it was
fourth and five, I was like, why wouldn't we just
rock a seventy one yard field goal attempt right here?

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Because it would have won it. They had already both
had possession. Our friends on the Dumb Zone podcast they
I think they have Brandon Aubrey on every week, and
he said, like he likes being iced. He's like, it
just gives me like, I'm fine, I'm pretty cool, and like, yeah,
kind of, let's the adrenaline build up a little bit
and that could help get a few more yards. He
is so calm, he is, he is what did he
just like trading crypto two years ago to say where?

(12:34):
I mean he was playing soccer and then you know
they read it straight off Wikipedia on the TV broadcast yesterday.
His wife saw I missed field gull and said you
could do that, honey. So then he got to work.
And this is where John Fossil should get credit, because
John Fossil is the guy who you know, did advocate
for Brandon Aubrey worked out and he's very good. But yeah,

(12:54):
he had a software engineering degree. I think he was
just kind of working doing some of the IT stuff.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
It's unreal and to be the absolute best in the
league after just sitting around doing nothing. Doesn't Dak get
an assist on this too? Because Dak's best friend is
his kicking coach, I think, so absolutely had to help
him with the early workouts.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Jack went there.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Yeah, okay, I got another question for you guys. So
we were talking about this. There's only two games into
the season. You see certain things, think are trends?

Speaker 1 (13:23):
All right?

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Do we are we confident that there will be at
least one shockingly costly penalty from Pickens in every game?

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (13:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (13:33):
I mean what I thought.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
He kind of got screwed on that pass interference. That
did not look bad to me. That was not passive
for sure. That was one of the things though, where
it's like you arrive on the scene of the crime
and the criminal is holding a bag of money even
though it's his, like arrest him because he's been guilty
so many times, but it does it does feel like
he's destined every game to do something to make us
Gois kept saying that, like he's the guy in the huddle.

(13:55):
He's like, come on, guys, we got this Pickens keep
going Yeah, it sounds like he's like very positive.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Okay, that's good. All right.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Coming up next, let's get away from the cowboys for
just a bit. We'll get back into him coming up
at four o'clock and then again at five o'clock. But
coming up next, let's turn our attention to the Emmys,
which took place last night. We'll discuss it all next
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