October 20, 2025 • 6 mins
"Is it really a celebrity death if the guy spent his life chasing Bigfoot?"In this hilariously offbeat edition of The Ben and Skin Show, hosts Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray dive into the latest installment of the Hollywood Shuffle, where the rule of celebrity deaths “coming in threes” gets stretched to its absolute limit.From mourning the loss of Limp Bizkit’s bassist Sam Rivers to debating whether a Bigfoot-believing professor counts as a celebrity, this segment is packed with absurdity, nostalgia, and laugh-out-loud moments that only this crew can deliver.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Juicy News, Hot God, every.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Stay on top in the wood shovel. All right, So
we had three celebrity deaths ostensibly that we need to
talk about. Okay, I got good use of the word ostensibly. Okay,
we'll start in music. Bass player of Limp Biscuit, Sam Rivers,
(00:28):
has passed away.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
They do come in threes. We had three over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Okay, So last week it was Ace Freely, it was DiAngelo,
it was Diane Keaton.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
We have three more one weekend. When do you decide
whether it's a new tab? How come it's not four?
How come it's not the fourth? When do you you decide?
Once you get three? That's the wrap on that, because
if it was still two and this was the third,
would you make this the third?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah, that's tough. It's just still rule of threes that
I think you just go with. And that started when
Dellarnheart died at Daytona. Right now, I think that's when started.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Not you. You're you know here in Texas, you're a
small town guy.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I know you base everything going back to when Dale died,
but I don't think that applies.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
It really was. That was the moment I said I'm
going to get out of this town one day. What
year did Dale die? Ninety nine? Yeah, I was when
I found out. I was on the field, literally, I
know where I was.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Who told you?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
In a field? I was with my cousins and they ran,
They ran out in the field. We haven't Kevin. You're
not gonna believe it. It was a sad deal, dude.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
A carrier pigeon dropped a message. It was a problem.
It was a problem. He was everything. And he's not dead.
He's just one lap ahead. Yep. Uh. Sam Rivers is
the bass player of Limp Biscuit. I guess he was
forty eight.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
He's dead.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Cause of death not officially known, but he did say
in an interview in twenty twenty that he had liver
disease and had undergone a liver transplant. Oh and DJ Lethal,
who's in Limp Biscuit and his bandmate posted f cancer
on ig but I didn't think their origin story is interesting.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
He who named Limp Biscuit?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Okay, first of all, because you immediate would think it's
Fred Durst, but he's kind of seen as the original guy.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Now Fred Durst's Sam Rivers. Oh oh, okay, got you?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Fred Durst met Sam Rivers because Sam Rivers worked at
a Chick fil A in the Jacksonville mall. That's how
bands start, That's how Christina got into oatmeal pizza.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
How did those guys meet DJ Lethal, because that's what
gave him a chance.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
You guys know who he is, right, I don't know.
He is the DJ and producer of House of Pain.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I don't know. Yeah, so he came. He was a
jump around.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Well that was Mugs that produced that, but he produced
songs on a record that went platinum, so he had
tons of pull. And me and Ben opened up for
a House of Pain when they were a big deal,
and there was another band on the on the bill
that had a world class DJ named DJ baby G,
and they opened up to and so I remember DJ
Lethal came running up to me goes, you're the DJ
(02:58):
from the opening band. I was like, well, yeah, he
goes the guy that was just I go, oh no,
that's Baby G. Before I could finish, he turned around
and walked off. That wanted nothing to do with me
once he figured out I wasn't the badass.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
You couldn't really offer him much. Now, second of the
three we're going to get to Jeffrey Meldrum. Okay, now
this is not a household name, clearly putting him in
the rule of threes. Jeffrey Meldrim died at the age
of sixty seven of brain cancer. Who is he He
was a professor at Idaho State but the leading academic
authority to vouch for the existence of bigfoot.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Okay, this is stretch man.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
So this is like the condor, like full splits trying
to catch the ball from third.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
This is a good Was that guy's name Guzman? Yeah,
there's no way we're including this guy.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
So do you.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Remember the famous film snippet in the sixties of a bigfoot?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah, the bigfoot is a pruiter where.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
He's walking through the woods and he's got.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
A watch on.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
It's clearly he motions, da get out of my lawn.
It's clearly Rowdy's grandpa. Just this is a guy in
an animal costume. It's very obvious.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Well, he was like, man, that guy's walking to ape
like he's walking in an ape like manner. And I've
done lots of studies on feet, so this is not
fake and he believed it. He also claimed on our
trip to Wyoming that he said something too big to
be a bear brushed past his tent.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
I'm dying to not talk about this guy.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Oh no, hold on, you need to buy in here
because Jane Goodall, who died three weeks ago, the great Jane.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Goodall, lover her. Okay, she was awesome.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
She actually was like, I don't understand why scientists are
being so mean to this guy and insulting him. He's
just trying to open and have a conversation about the
possibilities of bigfoot and I. While we have no scientific evidence,
I do think we should listen to his case. She's like,
I'll read anything that's out there about it because she
(04:54):
was interested in that world and it says more about
her than him. But he also had brain cancer, so
we should of him a little bit of huh.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Since we don't have a full trio of people. Who's
the second guy?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
That was two?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Okay, I don't think he followed, right, But all right,
who's we do? Who's the third the third guy?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Second guy? I'm voting.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Look, the second guy's in. Yeah, yeah, Doug Martin. Ben's
drafted Doug Martin before in a fantasy draft. Police got
called to his home about a possible break in, and
he's dooking well, I don't know if it was his home.
Police were called about a possible home break in at
four fifteen Saturday morning, and then a brief struggle occurred
(05:37):
before Doug Martin became unresponsive while in police custody. They
took him to the hospital and then he died.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Thirty six. They don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
It's not out yet. Thirty six running back. We're all
thinking it, right, we're thinking CT. We're all thinking it.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah, we all thinking Are we all thinking it? If
you're driving out there, let us know if you're thinking two.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
One four seven eight seven, one oh five three, just
text in, tell us what you're thinking, if you're thinking
it ct CT, text that in right.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Now, you know what, tell us what you're thinking and
what you're drinking.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, yeah, tell us.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Right now yeah two one four seven eight seven, one
oh five three, so we can read all your texts,
all right. Coming up just over three minutes, Skin, we're
going to take us in things. Skin is tracking.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
We're going to talk about the nicest thing that your
neighbor could possibly do for you, and that's nag
Juicy News, Hot God, every.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Stay on top in the wood shovel. All right, So
we had three celebrity deaths ostensibly that we need to
talk about. Okay, I got good use of the word ostensibly. Okay,
we'll start in music. Bass player of Limp Biscuit, Sam Rivers,
(00:28):
has passed away.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
They do come in threes. We had three over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Okay, So last week it was Ace Freely, it was DiAngelo,
it was Diane Keaton.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
We have three more one weekend. When do you decide
whether it's a new tab? How come it's not four?
How come it's not the fourth? When do you you decide?
Once you get three? That's the wrap on that, because
if it was still two and this was the third,
would you make this the third?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah, that's tough. It's just still rule of threes that
I think you just go with. And that started when
Dellarnheart died at Daytona. Right now, I think that's when started.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Not you. You're you know here in Texas, you're a
small town guy.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I know you base everything going back to when Dale died,
but I don't think that applies.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
It really was. That was the moment I said I'm
going to get out of this town one day. What
year did Dale die? Ninety nine? Yeah, I was when
I found out. I was on the field, literally, I
know where I was.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Who told you?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
In a field? I was with my cousins and they ran,
They ran out in the field. We haven't Kevin. You're
not gonna believe it. It was a sad deal, dude.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
A carrier pigeon dropped a message. It was a problem.
It was a problem. He was everything. And he's not dead.
He's just one lap ahead. Yep. Uh. Sam Rivers is
the bass player of Limp Biscuit. I guess he was
forty eight.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
He's dead.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Cause of death not officially known, but he did say
in an interview in twenty twenty that he had liver
disease and had undergone a liver transplant. Oh and DJ Lethal,
who's in Limp Biscuit and his bandmate posted f cancer
on ig but I didn't think their origin story is interesting.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
He who named Limp Biscuit?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Okay, first of all, because you immediate would think it's
Fred Durst, but he's kind of seen as the original guy.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Now Fred Durst's Sam Rivers. Oh oh, okay, got you?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Fred Durst met Sam Rivers because Sam Rivers worked at
a Chick fil A in the Jacksonville mall. That's how
bands start, That's how Christina got into oatmeal pizza.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
How did those guys meet DJ Lethal, because that's what
gave him a chance.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
You guys know who he is, right, I don't know.
He is the DJ and producer of House of Pain.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I don't know. Yeah, so he came. He was a
jump around.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Well that was Mugs that produced that, but he produced
songs on a record that went platinum, so he had
tons of pull. And me and Ben opened up for
a House of Pain when they were a big deal,
and there was another band on the on the bill
that had a world class DJ named DJ baby G,
and they opened up to and so I remember DJ
Lethal came running up to me goes, you're the DJ
(02:58):
from the opening band. I was like, well, yeah, he
goes the guy that was just I go, oh no,
that's Baby G. Before I could finish, he turned around
and walked off. That wanted nothing to do with me
once he figured out I wasn't the badass.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
You couldn't really offer him much. Now, second of the
three we're going to get to Jeffrey Meldrum. Okay, now
this is not a household name, clearly putting him in
the rule of threes. Jeffrey Meldrim died at the age
of sixty seven of brain cancer. Who is he He
was a professor at Idaho State but the leading academic
authority to vouch for the existence of bigfoot.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Okay, this is stretch man.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
So this is like the condor, like full splits trying
to catch the ball from third.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
This is a good Was that guy's name Guzman? Yeah,
there's no way we're including this guy.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
So do you.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Remember the famous film snippet in the sixties of a bigfoot?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah, the bigfoot is a pruiter where.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
He's walking through the woods and he's got.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
A watch on.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
It's clearly he motions, da get out of my lawn.
It's clearly Rowdy's grandpa. Just this is a guy in
an animal costume. It's very obvious.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Well, he was like, man, that guy's walking to ape
like he's walking in an ape like manner. And I've
done lots of studies on feet, so this is not
fake and he believed it. He also claimed on our
trip to Wyoming that he said something too big to
be a bear brushed past his tent.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
I'm dying to not talk about this guy.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Oh no, hold on, you need to buy in here
because Jane Goodall, who died three weeks ago, the great Jane.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Goodall, lover her. Okay, she was awesome.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
She actually was like, I don't understand why scientists are
being so mean to this guy and insulting him. He's
just trying to open and have a conversation about the
possibilities of bigfoot and I. While we have no scientific evidence,
I do think we should listen to his case. She's like,
I'll read anything that's out there about it because she
(04:54):
was interested in that world and it says more about
her than him. But he also had brain cancer, so
we should of him a little bit of huh.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Since we don't have a full trio of people. Who's
the second guy?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
That was two?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Okay, I don't think he followed, right, But all right,
who's we do? Who's the third the third guy?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Second guy? I'm voting.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Look, the second guy's in. Yeah, yeah, Doug Martin. Ben's
drafted Doug Martin before in a fantasy draft. Police got
called to his home about a possible break in, and
he's dooking well, I don't know if it was his home.
Police were called about a possible home break in at
four fifteen Saturday morning, and then a brief struggle occurred
(05:37):
before Doug Martin became unresponsive while in police custody. They
took him to the hospital and then he died.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Thirty six. They don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
It's not out yet. Thirty six running back. We're all
thinking it, right, we're thinking CT. We're all thinking it.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah, we all thinking Are we all thinking it? If
you're driving out there, let us know if you're thinking two.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
One four seven eight seven, one oh five three, just
text in, tell us what you're thinking, if you're thinking
it ct CT, text that in right.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Now, you know what, tell us what you're thinking and
what you're drinking.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, yeah, tell us.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Right now yeah two one four seven eight seven, one
oh five three, so we can read all your texts,
all right. Coming up just over three minutes, Skin, we're
going to take us in things. Skin is tracking.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
We're going to talk about the nicest thing that your
neighbor could possibly do for you, and that's nag
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