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October 29, 2025 6 mins
“Should you ever marry someone who can turn your worst moments into a hit album?”In this juicy edition of The Ben and Skin Show, the crew dives headfirst into the Hollywood Shuffle with a story that’s equal parts hilarious, awkward, and oddly poetic. When news breaks that Stranger Things star and longtime friend of the show David Harbour is the subject of ex-wife Lily Allen’s new breakup album, Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray unpack the drama behind the lyrics, the alleged open marriage, and the shoebox full of handwritten letters, lube, and Trojans.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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November eleventh is the date on that. So if you
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time for this juicy moves hot gods.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Come stay on the top in the woots shovel.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
All right, So we have a friend of the show
going back to Geez over ten years ago.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
You might know him as David Harbor.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
It was weird, yeah, David Harbor, David Harbor from Stranger Things.
Stranger Things season five coming out soon.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
See Twitter used to be great.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
You can tweet someone and they may respond and then
you become buddies. Been hit up David Harbor when we
were talking about Stranger Things and became homies with him.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah, and it happened like with today, and then got him
on the show. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
And the interview went so well that I'll even take
you back ten years because again we're promoting season one
is great, but can we get a season two going
hadn't been renewed yet at this point went so well,
no technical difficulties or anything with David Harbor.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
At Netflix, and yeah, send him, tell him we need
a season.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
Two and you could tag me too, and I'll like
your tweet and we'll we'll, you know, we'll get on him.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
We need we need a hashtag for this. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
you got it. David. You there?

Speaker 4 (01:28):
Hello, Yep, yep, yep, you got us. Oh no, we
lost him. Did the Demie Gordon get us? Or what
happened David, David mister Harber, Hello, David, chief chief hopper,
I love you. Hello, Hello, can you call me?

Speaker 2 (01:56):
What a really sad ending? It's a cliffhanger. There he goes,
David Harbor. We did not want to get back to
Zeke talk. David Harbor.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
That is a great way to end an interview. Yeah,
on his part. So as soon as you're done, just
go hello.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Hello.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
It's the equivalent to pushing away from the table during
dinner and not returning. Yeah, you have note, you're like man.
He couldn't control the way that ended. It was a technology.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Another thing he couldn't control the way ended, Or maybe
he could have would be his marriage to I would
say two thousand's pop star Lily Allen. Oh wow, he
got married to her. She was around back in the
day and she's still around. In fact, she just dropped
it out. It's so weird that you said that.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
My wife just said, Okay, this is the one Lily
Allen song.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
I know.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
She's real British. She came out around the time as
Amy Winehouse felt like she probably liked doing a lot
of drugs. Could be wrong, could be wrong.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yep, just she you know, sanging a lot of songs
about getting high and all that stuff. Well, she put
out a new album. This new album's basically about her
divorce with David Harbor.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
The album, yep, it's her Lemonade. Who wants a divorce album?
Who's dying to hear that?

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Honestly?

Speaker 3 (03:12):
I mean, I mean this breakup albums, Yeah, I mean, dude,
Taylor Swift's Tortured Poets Department songs about the Little Frail
Guy from the nineteen seventy five and It.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
Flowers by Miley Cyrus is huge.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah. Let me just tell you people like breakup albums.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Last night, as I was watching Becky with the Good
Hair and the Lemonade album, there was boy that I mean,
people that think that they can. They orchestrated that for
marketing purposes. I can imagine, like I understand why how
it's good to write one song, but an.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Album about a divorce? Yeap to Chief Hopper Yep, I'm out.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
She uh Basically he wanted to have an open marriage.
I'm back in Lily Allen was not really okay with that,
but she did it.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
She did it anyways, who she has sex with? I
don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
So there's a song in here called P Palace, Oh
R Kelly P if just think of a cat, if
you like it helps you get to where you're going.
It sounds yeah, yeah, you're thinking R Kelly. But yeah,
there's more to it than that. It's a more five
letter word.

Speaker 5 (04:14):
National Cat Day.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
By the way. Yeah, hey, here's some of the lyrics.
That's okay, Yeah, good to know. Yeah, good drop. She
said that she found.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
This is she found a shoebox full of handwritten letters,
sex toys, butt plugs, lube inside again yep, hundreds of Trojans.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
How did I get caught up inside your double life?

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Those are lyrics? Yeah, yeah, well there's more. I know,
there's more lyrics about it. Didn't want to read them
all because they're not.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Wait, great, what decade did this happen? And there's a
shoe box of letters? What is this the Civil War?
I don't understand she's in her forties. I mean it's
not he's gonna have letters a shoe box of letters.
People keep shoeboxes letters.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
In twenty twenty.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
Five, literal open marriage you kind of need to discuss
before you actually get married. If you're not okay with it,
then you kind of don't do it, you know.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah, it's not an addendum time. It needs to be
established going in.

Speaker 5 (05:18):
Yeah, like do you want kids? Do you want an
open marriage?

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Right?

Speaker 2 (05:21):
I forgot to ask any of that.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
There's another song called just Enough? Why are we here
talking about vasectomies? Did you get someone pregnant someone who
isn't me? Did you take her to the clinic? Is
she having your baby? Man?

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Dad Hopper? Hopper might have stepped out of line here, guys.
He just didn't expect the success of Stranger Things, or
he didn't think Lily Allen would write another album. You
just should not.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Marry anyone who has the ability to go make an album.
I've always said that just because that's why I'm not
married yet. The Roy's album is going to be thank
you for your report. Kevin all Right, coming up next.
Who got arrested at the airport with marijuana. We'll get
into that next
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