November 20, 2025 • 12 mins
KT takes us down the rabbit hole of TV’s greatest “coaching trees,” from The Sopranos spawning Mad Men and Boardwalk Empire to the jaw-dropping fact that Roseanne gave us Norm Macdonald.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here's what we got coming up around four o'clock. At
about four oh four, we'll go around the sports. We've
got some NBA off the court drama to recap Christina's
cookie Jars coming up at four thirty the Today game,
and then we'll cuss the Cowboys. Look forward to Cowboys
Eagles coming up on Sunday. Huge game for the Dallas Cowboys.
But right now it's done for this US.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hot guys, every stay on top in the woods shovel.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Nice. Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
So we've talked about this a lot, and it comes
up in football a lot, the idea of a coaching tree.
Mike McCarthy, you know, where did he come from? Or
Jason Garrett didn't have much of a coaching tree, you know,
Brian Schottenheimer comes from a coaching tree that there's really
Mike McCarthy's coaching tree from.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
His dad, Marty. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
So McCarthy worked with Joe Montana the second time, right, yeah, yeah,
in Kansas City.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
And the other thing is, I think the one that's
most talked about football is the Sean McVay coaching tree
where Packers coach Matt Lafleur, the Bengals coach Zach Taylor,
Miners guy Kyle Shanahan, and it's actually the Kyle Shanahan
coaching Tree, who comes from his.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Dad, Mike Shannon.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do like things like this now.
I'd love to see one for basketball and all that stuff.
Popovich has got a massive one right now. The big
show that a lot of people are talking it's how
he retired.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah he had to. Right now.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
The big show that people are talking about is Pluribus.
It's on Apple TV. If you haven't seen it, you're
only three behind. They drop an episode ever Friday. It's
from the creator of Breaking Bad, Vince Gilligan. Vince Gilligan
is from the X Files Coaching Tree.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I thought he was from the Gilligan's Island Coaching Tree.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
A different one. That's a different one. So in the
X Files Coaching Tree is the guy who was the
showrunner of twenty four, the co creator of Homeland.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
You can kind of see where I'm going here.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
So he's got a new show coming out with Claire
Danes and somebody else from Homeland.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I know it's Matthew Reese. The guy looks like young Ringo.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Got Yeah, the guy who we inserted he was in
the show on HBO where we inserted Christina's chicken into
the show.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Oh, he was.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Also in There were Russian Spot Americans, The Americans Perry Mason.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I should tell you I watched the first ten minutes
of that show. Yeah, and it's awful.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Clad facial expressions ruined it for you. God she sucks
which show. God, she's just so mean all the time.
Why's she nice?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
She's strong, dude.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
But it might be good, but I quit it for
ten minutes. It's called the Beast is in Me.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw the thing for that very strange.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
So over at the Ringer, Alan Seppenwall, who can't keep
a job. He just bounces around like he was over
at the Rolling Stone and then he was at Hollywood Reporter.
Now he's doing stuff at The Ringer. But he's seen
as one of the best TV critics of all time,
right yeah, And he was like, I'm gonna do my
TV coaching trees and rank them and it's pretty awesome. Okay,
(03:05):
first we have to say The Simpsons and Saturday Night
Live is cheating, so he left them out. Steps have
been on for thirty seven years. Saturday Night Live has
been on there for fifty one seasons. Everyone wrote there
at some point. He also said Dawsage Creek is an
honorable mention. It should have an argument because White Lotus
creator Mike White worked on the first two seasons.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Really, Mike White also worked on Freaks and Geeks. Okay, wow,
and he was in School of Rock right yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
He mentioned Friends at the time when Friends is very popular,
the networks are like, come on, you make the next
Friends to all these people. And the only one of
all those people that took development deals, the only one
who's ever had hits outside of that is Bill Lawrence,
who did Scrubs and Shrinking and the weirdly Cougartown.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Didn't He also do the soccer thing everybody loves. He
helped on that one. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Last yeah, So coaching trees for TEA TV shows, here
are the rankings the Golden Girls. Their tree involves Mitchell Hurwitz,
who ended up to go on and make Arrested development cool,
Mark Cherry who did Desperate Housewives, and Christopher Lloyd, who
co created Modern Family.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
That's impressive.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
So Golden Girls had a good run there. The creator
of the Golden Girls was in the Norman Lear coach.
I was going to say, Norm Lear is the daddy
of all of this. This is the shocker for me
and all these Nash Bridges on CBS, which was Don
Johnson and Cheech Marin.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yep, it was a buddy cop show.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
That's a time period where Chong was very dissatisfied with
life because he was in jail and Cheech was with
Don Johnson on TV.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Don Johnson and then went and did ten Cup with
Kevin Costra and Don Johnson. Yeah, Cheaches was making inroads
with people, and Chong's like, man, why am I in jail?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
It sucks?
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Have you guys seen Cheech and Chong get back together
and what it's like?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:55):
On Twitter the chads for gummies, they're just at each
other's throats. Oh really Yeah, they drive each other freak
in real life? Yes, Oh like, why are we back together?
We can't stand each other.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Every time somebody says Don Johnson, I hear Don Johnson,
I can't help streat born name you brought up, especially
with that daughter of his.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
So on Nash Bridges they have Damon Lindeloff, who did
The Leftovers and co created Lost. Sean Ryan is the
guy who made The Shield, which on the Shield he
hired Kirk Suitor who made Sons of Anarchy.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
That guy's a relief pitcher right.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
And also a former Rangers outfielder Glenn Mazara, who did
season two and three of The Walking Dead, which is
seen as the best two seasons of The Walking Dead.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Nash Bridges has quite a coaching tree.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Okay, hold on, me and Ben need to stop for
a second. I can't read the guy's name. Is it
Carlton Q?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yeah? Is he in there?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
He's the I mean, he's the guy who did what
he he was in the coaching tree.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
He might have made Nash Bridges honestly, Okay.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Because me and Ben have the funny thing where we
went after a Rangers playoff game to uh. I mean
it was very much like Derek and step brothers. The
people that were there. It was almost too much. But Carlton,
C's from that created loss, was sitting in a corner
and hanging out with this other local dude that throws
parties with models. I mean, and we're just standing there
(06:13):
going what are we doing right now? How do we
fit in all this?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
So when I come back, how did the Sopranos coaching tree,
hold and some other shows.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Next, I love this discussion by the ways, Kat and
our radio tree.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
He doesn't want to be a PA.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
He is in it like him Brendan Brendan Landry Lockers,
Terry Locker definitely.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Locker claims to be in Galloways. Christina is the best
part of our radio tree. Yeah, but she's sitting there
going wait, I'm not in your damn radio tree.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yes, i am, thank you, all right, She's awesome, all right?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Coming up at three minutes, Part two of the best
TV coaching trees in history.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
I love this Ben and Skin show ninety seven point one.
The Eagle gonna give away those bad Omens tickets sometime
in the next two hours. Be listening for your chance
to win. But we are in the middle of the
coaching tree for television shows, Kat, take it away.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
All right? So we uh.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
As we move forward here, the Sopranos gets mentioned, and
basically again this is the idea of you have a
creator on the show, they have a bunch of writers.
What do those writers do with their career after they
worked on a certain show? The Sopranos is number eight, uh,
and David Chase had Matthew Wiener on the staff. He
made mad Men. Oh wow, he had Terrence Winner on
(07:22):
the staff.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Arents Winter did a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
A lot of stuff including Boardwalk Empire. Yeah uh, and
you also had a weird one here. Robin Green and
Mitchell Burges just worked on that show as well. And
they did the CBS show Blue Bloods.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Oh my, that's still going on.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
That's the one with Donnie Wahlberg, right, baby. But Tom
sellis yeah, good name that really jumped out.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Do you find as you look at these coaching trees
for TV shows that people stay in a lane, like
the guy who did Lost is going to do a
mysterious show that's kind of his vibe, or somebody who
does police drama's going to kind of stay around that realm.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Absolutely, That's thing I was looking for. I wanted to
find the person who has really bounced around and done
a bunch of weird stuff. Because again, this goes back
to Vince Gilgan who made Breaking Bad, and there's a
lot of people going, why is he doing a you know, pourbuses.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I don't even know how you define it.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
It's a little supernatural to an extent, but it's like,
why and he should just do meth shows.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
He did, but.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Even before Breaking Bad, he did that weird superhero movie
with the flawed superhero.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
What was that hornet?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Oh wait, there's been a couple with the Wonder with
Will Smith.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yes, he did that Will smithmanth I did?
Speaker 4 (08:32):
He was kind of drunk and yeah or something. Yeah,
he was like a beating down superhero. Larry Sanders show
number four.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
So you have Gary Shandling, whose first writing credits were
on Sandford and Son.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
But then you have Jet Appatow of all the Appatow
movies go on for days there. Steve Leviton did just
shoot me in Modern Family. Paul Simms did news radio
and he was a voice to Donald Glover on Atlanta
and Jermaine and Brett on Flat of the Concords.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Oh wow, that dude. Uh did y'all ever watch news Radio?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
No?
Speaker 3 (09:10):
But I know about it.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
It's a good show. Everyone says it's the most underrated
show of the night. It had Phil Hartman and he
was badass. And it had Blanket Foley from uh Brtin
Candy and Kids in the Hall. It's a really good Oh.
It had Rogue Joe Rogan was on it. Yeah, it
was a really good show. I think Andy Dick, Yeah,
it was.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
It was great.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Paul Simms, that guy just mentioned who did all that
stuff also did what We Do in the Shadows, the
show runner for What we did in the Shadows. Okay,
this one was wild to me. Number three on this
list Roseanne. The Roseanne coaching tree is so crazy. You
have Josh Whedon who did Josh Whedon who did Buffy,
the Vana par Slayer, Firefly, co wrote Toy Story and
(09:49):
the movie Speed Wow, and also made the first two
Avengers movies. That was the one where we saw some
like you did Speed and Toy Story that Rone.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Also on the Roseanne Coaching Tree, Norm MacDonald was a
writer on Roseanne.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Because they were both stand up comedians together around the
same time.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Amy Sherman, who did Gilmore Girls and The Marvelous Missus
masl Chuck Laurie did Two and a Half Men, The
Big Bang Theory and really every CBS. He's huge bitcom.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Yeah, he was all over that Charlie Sheen documentary. Crazy.
Number two is Hill Street Blues. Mike Post, Oh, that's
the that's the musician.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
David Milch was the co creator of NYPD Blue and
then he went on to do Deadwood. And you guys
have heard this name because it's one of the great
names that we have in our life. Dick Wolf Ah
is that Law and Order who made Law and Order.
Also another guy on there, Anthony Yerkovich, created Miami Vice.
(10:49):
David Kelly made Ally mcbill the practice in Big Little Eyes.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
And married Michelle Pfeiffer.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
But your number one show on TV's coaching Tree list
over at the Ringer is something called your Show of Shows,
Caesar's Hour.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
It's aired in the fifties. Yeah, this is as everybody
Rowan and Martin.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
This is crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
So basically you have mel Brooks, you have Carl Reiner,
who obviously went on to make The Dick Vandyke Show,
which is the first like workplace sitcom.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Rob Reiner's Daddy, he did The Jerk clearly the movie.
Neil Simon yep, who is like the greatest all time,
one of the best sketch writers of all time, all
that stuff. There's so many on there, the guy that
made mash and then at the end there's Woody Allen.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Yes, he was a stand up comedian back then. Dude,
I have to repeat this. I'm just talking about this
with my dad. That scene, did you guys end up
watching the Albert Brooks documentary on HBS.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
It's awesome, it's so great.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
But that scene where Carl Reiner goes on the Tonight
Show and they ask him who the funniest guy in
the world is? He goes, it's a teenager named Albert
Einstein who comes in my living room and entertains me.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Right, and that's Albert Brooks. Damn.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Albert Brooks's real last name is Einstein. His dad was
a comedian and thought it would be funny to name
him Albert Einstein.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
It's pretty amazing. But I've been preeasing you from a
young age.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Yes, yeah, And as a teenager would go in Carl
Reiner's living room and perform for him, to the point
where Carl Reiner went on the Tonight Show and said
he was the funniest person he had ever seen.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Oh, it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
That's insane. Job Katie, Wow, good job, kat You've really
turned it around. You're having a good week. Thank you now,
all of a sudden, thank you. You really pulled it
out because you were having a you're having a bad week.
You were, it was, it was a below average week.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Nah, we're good now though almost. What's he gonna do
now that he pulled it out?
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
We'll see find out next. What does Kat do now?
We'll do around the sports twenty five of the I
can't read my writing.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
What if we did the top twenty five off court
NBA moments in the last day court was the word
is all right?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
That's next.
Here's what we got coming up around four o'clock. At
about four oh four, we'll go around the sports. We've
got some NBA off the court drama to recap Christina's
cookie Jars coming up at four thirty the Today game,
and then we'll cuss the Cowboys. Look forward to Cowboys
Eagles coming up on Sunday. Huge game for the Dallas Cowboys.
But right now it's done for this US.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hot guys, every stay on top in the woods shovel.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Nice. Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
So we've talked about this a lot, and it comes
up in football a lot, the idea of a coaching tree.
Mike McCarthy, you know, where did he come from? Or
Jason Garrett didn't have much of a coaching tree, you know,
Brian Schottenheimer comes from a coaching tree that there's really
Mike McCarthy's coaching tree from.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
His dad, Marty. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
So McCarthy worked with Joe Montana the second time, right, yeah, yeah,
in Kansas City.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
And the other thing is, I think the one that's
most talked about football is the Sean McVay coaching tree
where Packers coach Matt Lafleur, the Bengals coach Zach Taylor,
Miners guy Kyle Shanahan, and it's actually the Kyle Shanahan
coaching Tree, who comes from his.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Dad, Mike Shannon.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do like things like this now.
I'd love to see one for basketball and all that stuff.
Popovich has got a massive one right now. The big
show that a lot of people are talking it's how
he retired.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah he had to. Right now.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
The big show that people are talking about is Pluribus.
It's on Apple TV. If you haven't seen it, you're
only three behind. They drop an episode ever Friday. It's
from the creator of Breaking Bad, Vince Gilligan. Vince Gilligan
is from the X Files Coaching Tree.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I thought he was from the Gilligan's Island Coaching Tree.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
A different one. That's a different one. So in the
X Files Coaching Tree is the guy who was the
showrunner of twenty four, the co creator of Homeland.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
You can kind of see where I'm going here.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
So he's got a new show coming out with Claire
Danes and somebody else from Homeland.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I know it's Matthew Reese. The guy looks like young Ringo.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Got Yeah, the guy who we inserted he was in
the show on HBO where we inserted Christina's chicken into
the show.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Oh, he was.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Also in There were Russian Spot Americans, The Americans Perry Mason.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I should tell you I watched the first ten minutes
of that show. Yeah, and it's awful.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Clad facial expressions ruined it for you. God she sucks
which show. God, she's just so mean all the time.
Why's she nice?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
She's strong, dude.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
But it might be good, but I quit it for
ten minutes. It's called the Beast is in Me.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw the thing for that very strange.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
So over at the Ringer, Alan Seppenwall, who can't keep
a job. He just bounces around like he was over
at the Rolling Stone and then he was at Hollywood Reporter.
Now he's doing stuff at The Ringer. But he's seen
as one of the best TV critics of all time,
right yeah, And he was like, I'm gonna do my
TV coaching trees and rank them and it's pretty awesome. Okay,
(03:05):
first we have to say The Simpsons and Saturday Night
Live is cheating, so he left them out. Steps have
been on for thirty seven years. Saturday Night Live has
been on there for fifty one seasons. Everyone wrote there
at some point. He also said Dawsage Creek is an
honorable mention. It should have an argument because White Lotus
creator Mike White worked on the first two seasons.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Really, Mike White also worked on Freaks and Geeks. Okay, wow,
and he was in School of Rock right yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
He mentioned Friends at the time when Friends is very popular,
the networks are like, come on, you make the next
Friends to all these people. And the only one of
all those people that took development deals, the only one
who's ever had hits outside of that is Bill Lawrence,
who did Scrubs and Shrinking and the weirdly Cougartown.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Didn't He also do the soccer thing everybody loves. He
helped on that one. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Last yeah, So coaching trees for TEA TV shows, here
are the rankings the Golden Girls. Their tree involves Mitchell Hurwitz,
who ended up to go on and make Arrested development cool,
Mark Cherry who did Desperate Housewives, and Christopher Lloyd, who
co created Modern Family.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
That's impressive.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
So Golden Girls had a good run there. The creator
of the Golden Girls was in the Norman Lear coach.
I was going to say, Norm Lear is the daddy
of all of this. This is the shocker for me
and all these Nash Bridges on CBS, which was Don
Johnson and Cheech Marin.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yep, it was a buddy cop show.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
That's a time period where Chong was very dissatisfied with
life because he was in jail and Cheech was with
Don Johnson on TV.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Don Johnson and then went and did ten Cup with
Kevin Costra and Don Johnson. Yeah, Cheaches was making inroads
with people, and Chong's like, man, why am I in jail?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
It sucks?
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Have you guys seen Cheech and Chong get back together
and what it's like?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:55):
On Twitter the chads for gummies, they're just at each
other's throats. Oh really Yeah, they drive each other freak
in real life? Yes, Oh like, why are we back together?
We can't stand each other.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Every time somebody says Don Johnson, I hear Don Johnson,
I can't help streat born name you brought up, especially
with that daughter of his.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
So on Nash Bridges they have Damon Lindeloff, who did
The Leftovers and co created Lost. Sean Ryan is the
guy who made The Shield, which on the Shield he
hired Kirk Suitor who made Sons of Anarchy.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
That guy's a relief pitcher right.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
And also a former Rangers outfielder Glenn Mazara, who did
season two and three of The Walking Dead, which is
seen as the best two seasons of The Walking Dead.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Nash Bridges has quite a coaching tree.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Okay, hold on, me and Ben need to stop for
a second. I can't read the guy's name. Is it
Carlton Q?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yeah? Is he in there?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
He's the I mean, he's the guy who did what
he he was in the coaching tree.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
He might have made Nash Bridges honestly, Okay.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Because me and Ben have the funny thing where we
went after a Rangers playoff game to uh. I mean
it was very much like Derek and step brothers. The
people that were there. It was almost too much. But Carlton,
C's from that created loss, was sitting in a corner
and hanging out with this other local dude that throws
parties with models. I mean, and we're just standing there
(06:13):
going what are we doing right now? How do we
fit in all this?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
So when I come back, how did the Sopranos coaching tree,
hold and some other shows.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Next, I love this discussion by the ways, Kat and
our radio tree.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
He doesn't want to be a PA.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
He is in it like him Brendan Brendan Landry Lockers,
Terry Locker definitely.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Locker claims to be in Galloways. Christina is the best
part of our radio tree. Yeah, but she's sitting there
going wait, I'm not in your damn radio tree.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yes, i am, thank you, all right, She's awesome, all right?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Coming up at three minutes, Part two of the best
TV coaching trees in history.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
I love this Ben and Skin show ninety seven point one.
The Eagle gonna give away those bad Omens tickets sometime
in the next two hours. Be listening for your chance
to win. But we are in the middle of the
coaching tree for television shows, Kat, take it away.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
All right? So we uh.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
As we move forward here, the Sopranos gets mentioned, and
basically again this is the idea of you have a
creator on the show, they have a bunch of writers.
What do those writers do with their career after they
worked on a certain show? The Sopranos is number eight, uh,
and David Chase had Matthew Wiener on the staff. He
made mad Men. Oh wow, he had Terrence Winner on
(07:22):
the staff.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Arents Winter did a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
A lot of stuff including Boardwalk Empire. Yeah uh, and
you also had a weird one here. Robin Green and
Mitchell Burges just worked on that show as well. And
they did the CBS show Blue Bloods.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Oh my, that's still going on.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
That's the one with Donnie Wahlberg, right, baby. But Tom
sellis yeah, good name that really jumped out.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Do you find as you look at these coaching trees
for TV shows that people stay in a lane, like
the guy who did Lost is going to do a
mysterious show that's kind of his vibe, or somebody who
does police drama's going to kind of stay around that realm.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Absolutely, That's thing I was looking for. I wanted to
find the person who has really bounced around and done
a bunch of weird stuff. Because again, this goes back
to Vince Gilgan who made Breaking Bad, and there's a
lot of people going, why is he doing a you know, pourbuses.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I don't even know how you define it.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
It's a little supernatural to an extent, but it's like,
why and he should just do meth shows.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
He did, but.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Even before Breaking Bad, he did that weird superhero movie
with the flawed superhero.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
What was that hornet?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Oh wait, there's been a couple with the Wonder with
Will Smith.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yes, he did that Will smithmanth I did?
Speaker 4 (08:32):
He was kind of drunk and yeah or something. Yeah,
he was like a beating down superhero. Larry Sanders show
number four.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
So you have Gary Shandling, whose first writing credits were
on Sandford and Son.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
But then you have Jet Appatow of all the Appatow
movies go on for days there. Steve Leviton did just
shoot me in Modern Family. Paul Simms did news radio
and he was a voice to Donald Glover on Atlanta
and Jermaine and Brett on Flat of the Concords.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Oh wow, that dude. Uh did y'all ever watch news Radio?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
No?
Speaker 3 (09:10):
But I know about it.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
It's a good show. Everyone says it's the most underrated
show of the night. It had Phil Hartman and he
was badass. And it had Blanket Foley from uh Brtin
Candy and Kids in the Hall. It's a really good Oh.
It had Rogue Joe Rogan was on it. Yeah, it
was a really good show. I think Andy Dick, Yeah,
it was.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
It was great.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Paul Simms, that guy just mentioned who did all that
stuff also did what We Do in the Shadows, the
show runner for What we did in the Shadows. Okay,
this one was wild to me. Number three on this
list Roseanne. The Roseanne coaching tree is so crazy. You
have Josh Whedon who did Josh Whedon who did Buffy,
the Vana par Slayer, Firefly, co wrote Toy Story and
(09:49):
the movie Speed Wow, and also made the first two
Avengers movies. That was the one where we saw some
like you did Speed and Toy Story that Rone.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Also on the Roseanne Coaching Tree, Norm MacDonald was a
writer on Roseanne.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Because they were both stand up comedians together around the
same time.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Amy Sherman, who did Gilmore Girls and The Marvelous Missus
masl Chuck Laurie did Two and a Half Men, The
Big Bang Theory and really every CBS. He's huge bitcom.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Yeah, he was all over that Charlie Sheen documentary. Crazy.
Number two is Hill Street Blues. Mike Post, Oh, that's
the that's the musician.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
David Milch was the co creator of NYPD Blue and
then he went on to do Deadwood. And you guys
have heard this name because it's one of the great
names that we have in our life. Dick Wolf Ah
is that Law and Order who made Law and Order.
Also another guy on there, Anthony Yerkovich, created Miami Vice.
(10:49):
David Kelly made Ally mcbill the practice in Big Little Eyes.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
And married Michelle Pfeiffer.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
But your number one show on TV's coaching Tree list
over at the Ringer is something called your Show of Shows,
Caesar's Hour.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
It's aired in the fifties. Yeah, this is as everybody
Rowan and Martin.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
This is crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
So basically you have mel Brooks, you have Carl Reiner,
who obviously went on to make The Dick Vandyke Show,
which is the first like workplace sitcom.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Rob Reiner's Daddy, he did The Jerk clearly the movie.
Neil Simon yep, who is like the greatest all time,
one of the best sketch writers of all time, all
that stuff. There's so many on there, the guy that
made mash and then at the end there's Woody Allen.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Yes, he was a stand up comedian back then. Dude,
I have to repeat this. I'm just talking about this
with my dad. That scene, did you guys end up
watching the Albert Brooks documentary on HBS.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
It's awesome, it's so great.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
But that scene where Carl Reiner goes on the Tonight
Show and they ask him who the funniest guy in
the world is? He goes, it's a teenager named Albert
Einstein who comes in my living room and entertains me.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Right, and that's Albert Brooks. Damn.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Albert Brooks's real last name is Einstein. His dad was
a comedian and thought it would be funny to name
him Albert Einstein.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
It's pretty amazing. But I've been preeasing you from a
young age.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Yes, yeah, And as a teenager would go in Carl
Reiner's living room and perform for him, to the point
where Carl Reiner went on the Tonight Show and said
he was the funniest person he had ever seen.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Oh, it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
That's insane. Job Katie, Wow, good job, kat You've really
turned it around. You're having a good week. Thank you now,
all of a sudden, thank you. You really pulled it
out because you were having a you're having a bad week.
You were, it was, it was a below average week.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Nah, we're good now though almost. What's he gonna do
now that he pulled it out?
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
We'll see find out next. What does Kat do now?
We'll do around the sports twenty five of the I
can't read my writing.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
What if we did the top twenty five off court
NBA moments in the last day court was the word
is all right?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
That's next.
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