April 15, 2024 • 35 mins
Trump ahead in swing state polls. Biden's warnings to Putin and Iran were ignored. Biden trying to play both sides of Israel-Hamas conflict. Arizona U.S. Senate Candidate Kari Lake joins the show to discuss the abortion ruling in Arizona, her race for Senate, and election integrity. Caller ends the show.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Third hour Clay in Buck kicks off now just Buck
for this hour. Want to take some of your calls
eight hundred two two two eight two at the back half,
so please a lot of those lines. You know, play
Pop in a flight right now. He is not a
fugitive from justice. Don't worry, despite the call by a
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sitting US Democrat congressman to.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Say that play is breaking the law.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Or I don't know, maybe both of us were by
talking about the Trump trial in New York, not allowed
to have opinions anymore in the Democrat parties America. I'll
love to share your thoughts. The First Amendment is a
dead letter. It does not matter to them. We saw
this with COVID, We've seen this with so many things. Oh,
I'm not going to make this a big discussion of
COVID now, but I do think it's worth noting they
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have finally, as of April twelfth, the Bide Administration has
ended the mask mandate on for federal fact abilities and
airplanes mass transit. So here we are in twenty twenty
four April. They're like, all right, fine, Also, it is
tax Day today.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
We haven't talked about much.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
This is where I think people should be far more
outraged than they tend to be. I think we're all
numbed to this at some level. The government has this
incredibly complicated tax code and all these rules and regulations
around it, and it is incumbent upon you to spend
your time, your resources, your money to figure out how
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much of your money you give to the government. And
if you get it wrong, even though it's very easy
to get it wrong in good faith, you can suffer
some pretty.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Severe consequences, as we all know.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
So you know, I'm not saying it's tyranny for there
to be taxes, but I'm not saying it's not. It's
definitely a bad system we have in place. It's something
that should get far more attention. Also, we're taking in
more revenue than ever before, and still a trillion dollars
short depending on the year under Biden, still a trillion
dollars short ear in year out, and thirty three trillion
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gonna be thirty four trillion soon in debt. So you know,
eventually the whole system collapses, But don't worry, we got
some time before that.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Happens, and in the meantime.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Hopefully we're not going to have some national security crisis
that is even more of a strategic risk to us
than the massive debt that is piling up currently and
that numerically will choke our economy, our prosperity, and future generations.
But you know, people don't like to hear too much
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about that. Let's talk about the situation in the Middle
East here for a moment, because Biden is floundering. We
know that the numbers are showing Biden losing to Trump
in every swing state. We often talk about this. I
will admit I'm a little surprised that he's as far
ahead as he is, just given that he had never
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been out ahead of Biden the way that he is
currently in these swing states. And I've certainly been very
cautious and warning all along of the possibility the Democrats
will pull some kind of dirty trick Shenanigan. But they're
pulling so many already. I know they got the four trials,
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and what comes after throwing the kitchen sink, right, if
you throw everything in the kitchen sink, what comes after that?
I don't know, but Democrats will certainly be in a
position to try it.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I think it's.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Worth noting that Biden during the Obama years was brought
in initially vice president for eight years. Biden during the
Obama years was brought in to be the foreign policy
wisdom of that administration because Obama had never dealt with
any foreign policy issue before, so they brought in good
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old man Joe Biden to handle that portfolio. And I
will say that one part of the Obama legacy that
doesn't get nearly the attention that I think it should
is that Barack Obama made every national security challenge area
worse over his time in office.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
You just go, you can do it.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Iraq got worse, Pakistan got worse, Libya got worse, Syria
got much worse.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Go down the list.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Every hotspot, every foreign policy hotspot under Obama had a
major deterioration, not just instability, but real surges in violence.
In the case of Syria and all that civil war
that claimed to half a million lives. Where are all
the protests about that, All these pro Hamas protesters walking around,
where were they so upset about? Why weren't they making
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more noise about what was happening in Syria?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
You know, because they can blame the Jews for Syria,
or at least it's hard. It was hard order for.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Them to blame the Jews for Syria, I guess, so
they can't find that in themselves to shut down traffic
and bridges and things like that. But it's worth noting
that the two major areas of crisis right now Russia
Ukraine national security crisis Russia Ukraine and the I guess
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you might say the levant the Near East Israel and
its environs, but now it stretches all the way to Iran.
Those two areas under Biden have had a marked deterioration,
and I just wanted to note that in both cases
Biden has a history of telling the leadership in those
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countries you better not mess with me. For example, this
was Biden back in twenty twenty oh No, when when
was this? One guy's on the Russia anyway. Here he
is warning Russia twenty twenty two. Yeah, here he is
warning Putin in Russia on Ukraine, play it.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
And I wonder, mister President, what you would say to
him if he is considering using chemical or tactical nuclear weapons.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Don't don't, don't. So he says don't. Now.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Fortunately, Putin hasn't used chemical or tactical nuclear weapons, but
he did invade. So he did invade Ukraine, which he
did not do under Trump. But that formulation of don't
repeated three times, which I won't do because it'll waste
your time. Here he is Biden on Friday telling Iran,
you better not do this or else.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Play five. Iran in this moment, don't well, I think
then he repeat it three times or is that just
the other one?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Anyway, he has a habit of just he thinks, you know,
he's he's oh, here, here we go, Here we go.
Here's the three times when he's warning Iran, this is
cut six.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Play it, And I wonder, what is your message to
Hesbola and its backer Iran don't don't don't, don't. There
we go. Yeah, you know, they don't listen to him.
That's the point.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
His message is you better not and they go, yeah,
we think we will. I mean not yet with Russia
with the nukes. Fortunately, but clearly I'm sure in whatever
back channels they're operating on the diplomatic side with Russia,
they weren't concerned about invading Ukraine, and the Biden response
to it. But this is what happens when you have
somebody who is not only senile or in the early
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stages or some stage of senility, and just also decrepitude,
I mean physically mentally.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
He is too old for this.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
He is too beaten down for the role that he has.
But this is not a guy who was smart on
foreign policy or smart on anything really is in his
entire career. And there are real consequences from this stuff. Unfortunately,
having a president whom nobody takes particularly seriously at all
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on the world stage. I mean, I know the Europeans
like them. There are some countries that like a weak
American president. You have to remember that there are some
countries that would just they would prefer so when they say, oh,
we like Biden, yeah, because the approach of democrats in
the left is always to have the most multipolar, multilateral
world possible. Like everyone ever, it's always the un We're
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all at the same table.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Everybody's equal.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
You know, our human rights, Libya human rights, Zimbabwe human rights.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
You know, it's all the same.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
That's the approach the democrat left likes to take, is
that we all sit at the same table, we all
have the same goals and our nations are morally equivalent
on the issues that really matter. And unfortunately that's lunacy, right,
that's a really bad formulation for how to approach any
foreign policy issue. And Biden falls into that because this
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is not a man who has any real vision. He
isn't going to come up with some complicated solution to
anything because he's Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
He's a deeply.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Inept and incompetent figure. And I have to tell you
it does sometimes still amaze me that the same people
who are now going through all of these contortions and
all this dishonesty to come up with some way to
explain to the American people that what they're doing to
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Trump right now, with these trials and these efforts to
interfere in the election, is anything other than the most
aggressive election interference campaign in our certainly in our lifetime.
I mean, I think you'd have to go back quite
a ways.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I mean, you have to go back to.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I don't know, has there ever been anything that was
this egregious that was done by the Justice Department. No,
I don't think the Justice depart has ever weighed in
and tried to throw an election in this manner. At
least they tried Faiza and the Spine before against Trump,
but Joe Biden is who they offer up.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Right.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
On the one hand, they'll do anything to destroy Donald Trump.
On the other they want us to take them seriously,
and this is who they put forward. And clearly our
enemies think that Joe Biden is clownish and to be
taken advantage up.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
And they're right.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
And that's the part of it that I think is
so disconcerting as an American. That's the part of it
that is so troubling is that anyone who sees Joe
Biden as easy to maneuver around, to steamroll, to gain
at the expense of the American people whom Joe Biden represents,
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they're correct. And the fact that the Democrats even pretend
that four more years of this would in any way
be a good thing that I think is discrediting in
and of it. Yes, there's all the other stuff that
we talk about with the elections. Yes there's the reality
of for criminal trials against Trump in the election year,
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but ultimately, the fact that he's the best that they've
got tells you everything about what their team's really all about.
This is incompetence and ineptitude and recklessness, and they are
going to increasingly get desperate as it moves along, because
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anybody who is not completely bought in to whatever the
machinery tells them to, whatever the propaganda is trying to
convince them of, is going to see this for what
it is. And that's why the numbers are turning so
much against Biden. And I would sit and I would
just say, whether you're talking about global stability, Look, the
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pandemic is a you know, it was a once in
a century. I was going to say, you know, natural phenomenal.
Though you know China, it's a natural phenomenon in as
far as the virus, you know, Chinese lab unfortunately pushed
it along. But to say that that is in some
way a reflection or rather that that is the defining
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memory of the entire Trump presidency. I mean, he was
president for three years and it was better than what
Biden has offered up in the three years he's been president,
and the first year of Biden's presidency when he was
dealing with COVID issues, he was horrible and far worse
than anything any any decision that Trump made that I
wouldn't have agreed with or in retrospect, I would have
done differently. Everything that Biden done was far worse than that.
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So you just can't make it. You know, this is
the the easy political question that always comes up during
election time. Are you better off now than you.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Were four years ago?
Speaker 2 (12:49):
And I think broadly the American people, including Democrats, including
some of the Democrats who have voted minority Democrats who
have voted their whole life for the Democrat Party, I
think many of them are starting to see that they
have been misled by what kind of a president Joe
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Biden would be or what kind of wins he would
be able to rack up. I don't know if they're
going to change and vote Republican, but they're certainly disappointed
in Joe Biden, and he can't afford to handle that
right now. But then there's this other thought that I
had that was just to top all this off, do
you imagine if we found ourselves in a real wartime scenario.
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People were writing about World War three of the weekend,
and I was, you know, it's not World War three.
It's a complicated and difficult situation. It's a dangerous situation
in at least but it's not World War three. But
can you imagine if we did go up against something
on the scale of a true even just a near
peer conflict, let's say with Russia or China or anything
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like that, and Joe Biden and the people around him
were in charge. I mean, Jake Sullivan is going to
be the National Security Advisor, Joe Biden is going to
be the commander in chief, Kamala Harris is his number two.
That's who's going to be in the room making the
key calls about how we respond to a major strike
on the homeland or you know, the sinking of a
US carrier or whatever it may be. It is true
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with Obama said, elections have consequences, and the consequences of
this next election, if it were to go for giving
bide in four more years, I think would be severe
and deeply detrimental for the country. And I think that's
why it's so important for all of us to stay
in this stay in this fight, and do everything that
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we can to make sure that we don't have four
more years of this because the last four years has stunk,
has not been good for the country. We all see it,
we all recognize it, and I'm sorry that there's still
some people out there who are still diluted into thinking
it would be fascism if Trump was president. I mean
if by more prosperous economy, freer, more support for law enforcement,
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more secure borders. You know, if that's fascism, then there
is no what is fascism. They're just making up some
new definition of a word. Has nothing to do with
what they say.
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of the most hotly contested races we're going to see
other than the presidential in this cycle. Carrie Lake of
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Arizona is with us now, Carrie. Good to talk to
you again.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Oh, it's good to.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Be on Buck. I hope everything is going great in
your world.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
So far, so good. Thanks so much.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Clay had to run to a flight, but he sends
his regards.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Oh, considering Joe Biden, is you know, in the White House.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Things aren't going so well in the world.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Unfortunately, we got some problems, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
But before I get dive into your state what's going
on there, I just want to know what are your
thoughts in reaction to not only what we saw over
the weekend with Iran and Israel, but the Biden administrations
positioning and public statements on it so far.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Well, you know, my thoughts are that this wouldn't even
be happening if we if we had President Trump in
the White House. I mean, let's face it, Joe Biden
has empowered Iran to be a globalist bully, to be
a globalist you know, sponsor of terror around the globe,
and this is what's causing these problems. So my thoughts
so that anything Joe Biden touches has just been disastrous.
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We had peace in the world under President Trump, like
him or hate him. We had peace in the world
and these countries that were sponsoring terrorism were not in control.
And now Joe Biden is not feared, he's not respected,
He's feeble and weak, and none of these countries even care.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
To deal with him.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
He's the one you enabled them to have the money
to pull all of this off ran and so I've
got a real problem with the way he's handling it.
And I can't wait for November fifth to roll around
so we can turn this nightmare around and finally bring
some peace back to the world.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Let's speak a bit, perry about what's going on in
your stay where you're running for that critical Senate seat.
There was a moment it seemed of, I think almost
unreserved glee from much of the Democrat media last week
when they started to report on this State Supreme Court
decision for an eighteen sixty four law that doesn't go
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into effect but could go into effect. And then they
start attacking you and say that you're on both sides
of the issue and now Guy Ago can win, and
can you just untangle that mess for us a little bit.
Tell us where you are on this issue and how
you're going to beat Gago in Arizona for this seat.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Well, isn't it sick how the Democrats take such glee
in this issue and they're pushing for the extreme abortion
measures of abortion right up until the moment of birth
and after. We know that's what they're pushing for, because
that's what these laws that they're pushing are all about. Look,
you know, this pre territorial law from eighteen sixty four
is not in effect in Arizona. And no matter what
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the media says, no matter what all these outlets say,
no matter what some people on our side say, this
is not the law right now. It doesn't matter what
the Arizona Supreme Court says, because our age will not
enforce this law. The only people who could enforce it
would be the sheriffs. And I haven't heard one sheriff
stand up and say that he will enforce this law.
So this law is really not in effect. To take
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that law off the books and now realize.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
What we're marching into.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
We're marching into November where the ballot measure on the
ballot in Arizona that will pass at this point it
looks like it's going to pass, is abortion up until
nine months planned parenthood help write this measure. They say
it's twenty two weeks, but there are so many loopholes
for abortion right up until nine months.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
And we have a bunch of.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Legislators in our legislature right now who could do something
about it, but they don't want to because they want
to get their five star rating from the pro life groups.
They're so worried about their rating from the pro life
groups that they're willing to allow Arizona to end up
being a state where we have abortion up until nine months.
Buck I'm on a campaign trail. I talk to more
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Arizona than anybody in the country. They are not for
abortion up until nine months. They are not for a
fourteen year old girl going into an abortion clinic without
her mom and dad by her side knowing what's going on.
That is not where Arizona is. But the Democrats have
nothing else to run on, and so they're going to
run on this issue because they have made sure that
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our border is wide open. They've created an invasion unlike
we've ever seen before in our country. They've created a
crime wave in our cities, making it impossible for us
to go enjoy quality of life in our cities. And
enjoy a walk through the park or a bike ride,
or even driving through the cities without worrying about being carjacked.
And they've collapsed our economy to the point that Americans
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cannot afford every day living their everyday expenses. They can't
afford groceries and gas. They have nothing to run on
except this. And I will tell you in talking to Arizonas,
this is not their top priority. They want to save
as many babies as possible.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
That's my goal.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
I am pro life. My goal is not to get
a five star rating from any organization. My goal is
to get more babies saved.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
Ok.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
What would you like to that end? What would you
like the state of Arizona to do between now and
the election?
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Well, I think the legislators could you know, by the way,
there are the ones, the same group in this legislature
past that fifteen week law that we used to have,
and they all voted for it, and now they're saying
it's horrible, but push that aside. I think we need
to work to get some sort of a common sense
initiative on the ballot so that we can go against
this nine month abortion in Arizona. No matter what they
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say about it. That's what the current initiative on the
ballot is. It'll have abortion right up until nine months,
so they need to work together. I don't have a
say in that. Buck. I wish I was sitting in
the governor's office, I really do, and I would be
helping them, but I don't have a say in it.
I only have one vote come November fifth. But I
will tell you when I am in the US Senate,
I will not vote for a I will not vote
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for one federal dollar to be spent on abortion, and
I won't vote for a federal abortion band. We worked
hard to bring down the unconstitutional roby Way, and now
it's in the state's hands. Regardless of what happens, we're
going to have fifty different abortion laws.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
So we're going to have to deal.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
With the fact that somewhere in America abortions are happening,
and how do we go into the hearts and minds
and start changing the culture. That's what they did in Hungary.
This is why I've shifted a bit, because I had
opportunity to go to Hungary and I learned that they
cut the number of abortions in half without changing a
single law. And it made me realize we are so
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focused on weeks and months and laws, and we're not
focused on the real issue, which is saving babies and
helping women. And that's what I want to do. That's
what I want, That's what I want a Republican Party
to be about. I want the Republican Party to be
the party of women, babies, and family and put our
money where our mouth is. Planned parents has ballot measure
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that they have planned for Arizona is the same as
New York and California. And I can tell you right now,
the people of Arizona are not in the same mindset
as those people who voted for that in New York
and California.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Now, outside of your own race, how do you think
it's looking for the matter up with President Trump and
Joe Biden And are they basically planning to just run
the same playbook that they're going to run against you,
which is just misrepresent the abortion issue and hope that
that alone can deliver Arizona into Democrat hands.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Well, let me tell you, the media here is just disgusting.
I mean, I think it's the worst media in the
whole country. To be honest, they will misrepresent anything. I mean,
I'm going around this state. I'm here up in Mohave County,
Red right now, which is very Republican. We drew a
crowd of a thousand people last night. I've been to
seven stops. Every single stop I've been to has been
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maximum plus capacity, standing room only. And the people are
ready to vote for me for Senate. They do not
want Ruben Geigo. He is a far left Chicago Democrat. Actually,
he's a socialist. I'm going to take that back. He's
a socialist who voted for open borders, Thankstuary Cities.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
He's voted with Joe Biden one percent of the time.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
He wants to raise gas prices by a dollar to
punish people who drive gas powered vehicles. He's up for
abortion up until nine months. And listen, I'm not going
to be lectured by a guy like Reuben Diego, who
walked out on his wife days before she gave birth
to his firstborn. He served her divorce papers, walked out
on her, and ran off with a DC lobbyist. So
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pardon me, but I'm not going to be lectured about
life and family.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
By a guy who does that.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
And with President Trump, the people here love him we
miss so much the low unemployment levels. We missed the
low mortgage rates, we missed the low inflation, we missed
the affordability that we used to have in Arizona. I'm
here in Mohave County. I was down in Tucson, which
is much more liberal. But I'll tell you, even in Tucson,
everyone was coming up and saying, we are supporting you.
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I had people say I'm a Democrat, I support you,
I will vote for you again. It's so interesting that
the retirees that I've spoken to, some who are recently
retired buck and some who are just about to retire,
they're the most concerned about this economy because they've done
everything right. They worked hard, they paid taxes. They're now
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retiring or have been retired for just a bit of time,
and they're looking at the cost of living and.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Saying, Wow, everything I did and saved for is.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Not going to get me through the rest of my
life because I didn't expect us to have the cost
of living go up so much under Joe Biden. People
are awake, and they're ready to vote, and they're ready
to make a big, big change, and they're ready to
vote for President Trump. And carry Lake for US.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Demnet and Carrie you know, I know it's an understatement
to say you know this issue backwards and forwards and
have dealt with it in a very personal way election
integrity going into this cycle for your state for Arizona,
have things improved? Because we get people that write in
all the time and say, have they done anything? Have
they fixed anything? Will it be better this time in Arizona?
(27:51):
What do you say to that We're.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
Working on it.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
There's several lawsuits that are in effect right now, probably
a dozen of them. Some of them are on little
procedural things, and you know, asy GOP with new leadership
Genus of Vota, has been really wonderful on letting us
know where those lawsuits stand. I mean we sued, not
I I didn't, but the acy GOP I believe sued to.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
Stop illegals from voting here and the other.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Side suit us back. I mean, it's insane what they're
pushing for. They know that these dead and Democrat destructive,
deadly policies are not what the people want, and the
only way to get those policies and keep them in
power is to cheat or to have illegals vote. I'm
really encouraged that President Trump and the Speaker of the
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House have gotten together on I think it's called the
Save Act, which would prevent illegals from voting. It would
require Blue states to require proof of citizenship before somebody votes.
It would punish anybody who is illegal and registers to
vote with immediate deportation, and any group or outlet or
individual who tries to sign up people knowingly who are
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illegal to vote would face five year prison sentence. We
have to start taking our elections and our election integrity seriously.
Some people might say, wow, that's a very long you know,
that's a lot of punishment for just signing somebody up
to vote. But when our elections are run fraudulently and
when they steal elections, we end up getting things like
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the disastrous you know pull out from Afghanistan that sent
eighty billion dollars of our high quality military, you know,
the tanks and missiles and guns and weaponry into the
hands of terrorists. We end up with an economy that
is in the toilet. When elections are not run properly,
we end up with a wide open border, We end
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up with an invasion, We end up with indoctrination and
sexual you know, grooming of our children. That's what stolen
elections create. So I take it very seriously. When somebody
is signing up someone who is illegal and shouldn't be voting.
When they sign up someone to vote, I think the
punishment should be severe.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Terry.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
What's your website for anyone who wants to help out, donate,
get involved?
Speaker 5 (30:01):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
It's Kerriylake dot com k A r I l a
k E dot com. I'm working really hard here in Arizona.
This is the most important state in the country. It
is the pathway to the White House for President Trump,
and it is the way to the majority in the
US Senate. We must get the majority in the US Senate.
This is where President Trump will have his cabinet members confirmed,
(30:24):
his Supreme Court picks confirmed. We need full voter participation.
We can't have anybody sit home. We can't have people
say well, I'll just skip this one.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
Everyone's got to vote this election.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
We have to outvote the cheat, and I know that
the people of Arizona.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
I'm working closely to make sure that they do that.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
No one can sit home. Everyone needs to get registered
to vote, and everyone needs to vote to save our country.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Garry Lake, He's going to win it for us in
Arizona and help bring it home for President Trump. Kerry,
thanks for being with us.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Thank you, Buck God bless you.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Appreciate it. You too.
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Speaker 6 (33:45):
I think the number one most important thing that you
and Clay could do and play and Buck could do
between now an election is to mirror exactly what Kerry
Lake said over and over and over again about people
you gotta vote. You can think that it's that it's
a done deal. You guys talk about these polls. Trump's ahead.
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I think if the election was now to be fine,
I think he's gonna win. I think he's gonna win.
But you gotta realize millions of people are listening to you,
and you got all. They don't listen to you all
three hours and they hear that. I don't think you
guys understand the strengths y'all's were to have the millions
of people that listen to you. And there I got
buddies in Illinois who were not gonna vote, that they
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were gonna vote on election day they got they got
an invite to a deer hunt and they decided not
to vote. Well, it's they don't need my vote, and
I go back.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
I tried to call your show. Do you remember twenty two,
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Do you remember whenever you were saying, hey, Buck, how
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Speaker 5 (34:46):
How early?
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Early do you think too early is to pop up
Bruski and celebrate the red wave?
Speaker 5 (34:51):
Do you remember that?
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Well, Clay's not here right now, But I do remember
the twenty twenty two was a rough one for Republicans,
and I would just say thank God for now. I
say every day every day that it's going to be
a tight election no matter what. The Democrats are going
to be ruthless and play dirty tricks no matter what.
That too much optimism can work against us. So you know,
we try to have a balance here between plays optimism
(35:16):
and my cynicism about politics. But trust me, we are
both very aware that this is going to be an
absolute fight for the very last day, and every American
who carries with the future of this country needs to
get out there and vote and vote to defeat Biden
and the communist Democrats.
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Third hour Clay in Buck kicks off now just Buck
for this hour. Want to take some of your calls
eight hundred two two two eight two at the back half,
so please a lot of those lines. You know, play
Pop in a flight right now. He is not a
fugitive from justice. Don't worry, despite the call by a
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sitting US Democrat congressman to.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Say that play is breaking the law.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Or I don't know, maybe both of us were by
talking about the Trump trial in New York, not allowed
to have opinions anymore in the Democrat parties America. I'll
love to share your thoughts. The First Amendment is a
dead letter. It does not matter to them. We saw
this with COVID, We've seen this with so many things. Oh,
I'm not going to make this a big discussion of
COVID now, but I do think it's worth noting they
(00:53):
have finally, as of April twelfth, the Bide Administration has
ended the mask mandate on for federal fact abilities and
airplanes mass transit. So here we are in twenty twenty
four April. They're like, all right, fine, Also, it is
tax Day today.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
We haven't talked about much.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
This is where I think people should be far more
outraged than they tend to be. I think we're all
numbed to this at some level. The government has this
incredibly complicated tax code and all these rules and regulations
around it, and it is incumbent upon you to spend
your time, your resources, your money to figure out how
(01:37):
much of your money you give to the government. And
if you get it wrong, even though it's very easy
to get it wrong in good faith, you can suffer
some pretty.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Severe consequences, as we all know.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
So you know, I'm not saying it's tyranny for there
to be taxes, but I'm not saying it's not. It's
definitely a bad system we have in place. It's something
that should get far more attention. Also, we're taking in
more revenue than ever before, and still a trillion dollars
short depending on the year under Biden, still a trillion
dollars short ear in year out, and thirty three trillion
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gonna be thirty four trillion soon in debt. So you know,
eventually the whole system collapses, But don't worry, we got
some time before that.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Happens, and in the meantime.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Hopefully we're not going to have some national security crisis
that is even more of a strategic risk to us
than the massive debt that is piling up currently and
that numerically will choke our economy, our prosperity, and future generations.
But you know, people don't like to hear too much
(02:43):
about that. Let's talk about the situation in the Middle
East here for a moment, because Biden is floundering. We
know that the numbers are showing Biden losing to Trump
in every swing state. We often talk about this. I
will admit I'm a little surprised that he's as far
ahead as he is, just given that he had never
(03:06):
been out ahead of Biden the way that he is
currently in these swing states. And I've certainly been very
cautious and warning all along of the possibility the Democrats
will pull some kind of dirty trick Shenanigan. But they're
pulling so many already. I know they got the four trials,
(03:27):
and what comes after throwing the kitchen sink, right, if
you throw everything in the kitchen sink, what comes after that?
I don't know, but Democrats will certainly be in a
position to try it.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I think it's.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Worth noting that Biden during the Obama years was brought
in initially vice president for eight years. Biden during the
Obama years was brought in to be the foreign policy
wisdom of that administration because Obama had never dealt with
any foreign policy issue before, so they brought in good
(04:01):
old man Joe Biden to handle that portfolio. And I
will say that one part of the Obama legacy that
doesn't get nearly the attention that I think it should
is that Barack Obama made every national security challenge area
worse over his time in office.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
You just go, you can do it.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Iraq got worse, Pakistan got worse, Libya got worse, Syria
got much worse.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Go down the list.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Every hotspot, every foreign policy hotspot under Obama had a
major deterioration, not just instability, but real surges in violence.
In the case of Syria and all that civil war
that claimed to half a million lives. Where are all
the protests about that, All these pro Hamas protesters walking around,
where were they so upset about? Why weren't they making
(04:52):
more noise about what was happening in Syria?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
You know, because they can blame the Jews for Syria,
or at least it's hard. It was hard order for.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Them to blame the Jews for Syria, I guess, so
they can't find that in themselves to shut down traffic
and bridges and things like that. But it's worth noting
that the two major areas of crisis right now Russia
Ukraine national security crisis Russia Ukraine and the I guess
(05:22):
you might say the levant the Near East Israel and
its environs, but now it stretches all the way to Iran.
Those two areas under Biden have had a marked deterioration,
and I just wanted to note that in both cases
Biden has a history of telling the leadership in those
(05:45):
countries you better not mess with me. For example, this
was Biden back in twenty twenty oh No, when when
was this? One guy's on the Russia anyway. Here he
is warning Russia twenty twenty two. Yeah, here he is
warning Putin in Russia on Ukraine, play it.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
And I wonder, mister President, what you would say to
him if he is considering using chemical or tactical nuclear weapons.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Don't don't, don't. So he says don't. Now.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Fortunately, Putin hasn't used chemical or tactical nuclear weapons, but
he did invade. So he did invade Ukraine, which he
did not do under Trump. But that formulation of don't
repeated three times, which I won't do because it'll waste
your time. Here he is Biden on Friday telling Iran,
you better not do this or else.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Play five. Iran in this moment, don't well, I think
then he repeat it three times or is that just
the other one?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Anyway, he has a habit of just he thinks, you know,
he's he's oh, here, here we go, Here we go.
Here's the three times when he's warning Iran, this is
cut six.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Play it, And I wonder, what is your message to
Hesbola and its backer Iran don't don't don't, don't. There
we go. Yeah, you know, they don't listen to him.
That's the point.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
His message is you better not and they go, yeah,
we think we will. I mean not yet with Russia
with the nukes. Fortunately, but clearly I'm sure in whatever
back channels they're operating on the diplomatic side with Russia,
they weren't concerned about invading Ukraine, and the Biden response
to it. But this is what happens when you have
somebody who is not only senile or in the early
(07:38):
stages or some stage of senility, and just also decrepitude,
I mean physically mentally.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
He is too old for this.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
He is too beaten down for the role that he has.
But this is not a guy who was smart on
foreign policy or smart on anything really is in his
entire career. And there are real consequences from this stuff. Unfortunately,
having a president whom nobody takes particularly seriously at all
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on the world stage. I mean, I know the Europeans
like them. There are some countries that like a weak
American president. You have to remember that there are some
countries that would just they would prefer so when they say, oh,
we like Biden, yeah, because the approach of democrats in
the left is always to have the most multipolar, multilateral
world possible. Like everyone ever, it's always the un We're
(08:29):
all at the same table.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Everybody's equal.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
You know, our human rights, Libya human rights, Zimbabwe human rights.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
You know, it's all the same.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
That's the approach the democrat left likes to take, is
that we all sit at the same table, we all
have the same goals and our nations are morally equivalent
on the issues that really matter. And unfortunately that's lunacy, right,
that's a really bad formulation for how to approach any
foreign policy issue. And Biden falls into that because this
(08:59):
is not a man who has any real vision. He
isn't going to come up with some complicated solution to
anything because he's Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
He's a deeply.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Inept and incompetent figure. And I have to tell you
it does sometimes still amaze me that the same people
who are now going through all of these contortions and
all this dishonesty to come up with some way to
explain to the American people that what they're doing to
(09:35):
Trump right now, with these trials and these efforts to
interfere in the election, is anything other than the most
aggressive election interference campaign in our certainly in our lifetime.
I mean, I think you'd have to go back quite
a ways.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I mean, you have to go back to.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I don't know, has there ever been anything that was
this egregious that was done by the Justice Department. No,
I don't think the Justice depart has ever weighed in
and tried to throw an election in this manner. At
least they tried Faiza and the Spine before against Trump,
but Joe Biden is who they offer up.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Right.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
On the one hand, they'll do anything to destroy Donald Trump.
On the other they want us to take them seriously,
and this is who they put forward. And clearly our
enemies think that Joe Biden is clownish and to be
taken advantage up.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
And they're right.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
And that's the part of it that I think is
so disconcerting as an American. That's the part of it
that is so troubling is that anyone who sees Joe
Biden as easy to maneuver around, to steamroll, to gain
at the expense of the American people whom Joe Biden represents,
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they're correct. And the fact that the Democrats even pretend
that four more years of this would in any way
be a good thing that I think is discrediting in
and of it. Yes, there's all the other stuff that
we talk about with the elections. Yes there's the reality
of for criminal trials against Trump in the election year,
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but ultimately, the fact that he's the best that they've
got tells you everything about what their team's really all about.
This is incompetence and ineptitude and recklessness, and they are
going to increasingly get desperate as it moves along, because
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anybody who is not completely bought in to whatever the
machinery tells them to, whatever the propaganda is trying to
convince them of, is going to see this for what
it is. And that's why the numbers are turning so
much against Biden. And I would sit and I would
just say, whether you're talking about global stability, Look, the
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pandemic is a you know, it was a once in
a century. I was going to say, you know, natural phenomenal.
Though you know China, it's a natural phenomenon in as
far as the virus, you know, Chinese lab unfortunately pushed
it along. But to say that that is in some
way a reflection or rather that that is the defining
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memory of the entire Trump presidency. I mean, he was
president for three years and it was better than what
Biden has offered up in the three years he's been president,
and the first year of Biden's presidency when he was
dealing with COVID issues, he was horrible and far worse
than anything any any decision that Trump made that I
wouldn't have agreed with or in retrospect, I would have
done differently. Everything that Biden done was far worse than that.
(12:39):
So you just can't make it. You know, this is
the the easy political question that always comes up during
election time. Are you better off now than you.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Were four years ago?
Speaker 2 (12:49):
And I think broadly the American people, including Democrats, including
some of the Democrats who have voted minority Democrats who
have voted their whole life for the Democrat Party, I
think many of them are starting to see that they
have been misled by what kind of a president Joe
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Biden would be or what kind of wins he would
be able to rack up. I don't know if they're
going to change and vote Republican, but they're certainly disappointed
in Joe Biden, and he can't afford to handle that
right now. But then there's this other thought that I
had that was just to top all this off, do
you imagine if we found ourselves in a real wartime scenario.
(13:32):
People were writing about World War three of the weekend,
and I was, you know, it's not World War three.
It's a complicated and difficult situation. It's a dangerous situation
in at least but it's not World War three. But
can you imagine if we did go up against something
on the scale of a true even just a near
peer conflict, let's say with Russia or China or anything
(13:53):
like that, and Joe Biden and the people around him
were in charge. I mean, Jake Sullivan is going to
be the National Security Advisor, Joe Biden is going to
be the commander in chief, Kamala Harris is his number two.
That's who's going to be in the room making the
key calls about how we respond to a major strike
on the homeland or you know, the sinking of a
US carrier or whatever it may be. It is true
(14:18):
with Obama said, elections have consequences, and the consequences of
this next election, if it were to go for giving
bide in four more years, I think would be severe
and deeply detrimental for the country. And I think that's
why it's so important for all of us to stay
in this stay in this fight, and do everything that
(14:38):
we can to make sure that we don't have four
more years of this because the last four years has stunk,
has not been good for the country. We all see it,
we all recognize it, and I'm sorry that there's still
some people out there who are still diluted into thinking
it would be fascism if Trump was president. I mean
if by more prosperous economy, freer, more support for law enforcement,
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more secure borders. You know, if that's fascism, then there
is no what is fascism. They're just making up some
new definition of a word. Has nothing to do with
what they say.
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Speaker 5 (17:55):
Oh, it's good to.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Be on Buck. I hope everything is going great in
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Speaker 3 (17:59):
So far, so good. Thanks so much.
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Speaker 4 (18:05):
Oh, considering Joe Biden, is you know, in the White House.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Things aren't going so well in the world.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Unfortunately, we got some problems, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
But before I get dive into your state what's going
on there, I just want to know what are your
thoughts in reaction to not only what we saw over
the weekend with Iran and Israel, but the Biden administrations
positioning and public statements on it so far.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Well, you know, my thoughts are that this wouldn't even
be happening if we if we had President Trump in
the White House. I mean, let's face it, Joe Biden
has empowered Iran to be a globalist bully, to be
a globalist you know, sponsor of terror around the globe,
and this is what's causing these problems. So my thoughts
so that anything Joe Biden touches has just been disastrous.
(18:53):
We had peace in the world under President Trump, like
him or hate him. We had peace in the world
and these countries that were sponsoring terrorism were not in control.
And now Joe Biden is not feared, he's not respected,
He's feeble and weak, and none of these countries even care.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
To deal with him.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
He's the one you enabled them to have the money
to pull all of this off ran and so I've
got a real problem with the way he's handling it.
And I can't wait for November fifth to roll around
so we can turn this nightmare around and finally bring
some peace back to the world.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Let's speak a bit, perry about what's going on in
your stay where you're running for that critical Senate seat.
There was a moment it seemed of, I think almost
unreserved glee from much of the Democrat media last week
when they started to report on this State Supreme Court
decision for an eighteen sixty four law that doesn't go
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into effect but could go into effect. And then they
start attacking you and say that you're on both sides
of the issue and now Guy Ago can win, and
can you just untangle that mess for us a little bit.
Tell us where you are on this issue and how
you're going to beat Gago in Arizona for this seat.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Well, isn't it sick how the Democrats take such glee
in this issue and they're pushing for the extreme abortion
measures of abortion right up until the moment of birth
and after. We know that's what they're pushing for, because
that's what these laws that they're pushing are all about. Look,
you know, this pre territorial law from eighteen sixty four
is not in effect in Arizona. And no matter what
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the media says, no matter what all these outlets say,
no matter what some people on our side say, this
is not the law right now. It doesn't matter what
the Arizona Supreme Court says, because our age will not
enforce this law. The only people who could enforce it
would be the sheriffs. And I haven't heard one sheriff
stand up and say that he will enforce this law.
So this law is really not in effect. To take
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that law off the books and now realize.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
What we're marching into.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
We're marching into November where the ballot measure on the
ballot in Arizona that will pass at this point it
looks like it's going to pass, is abortion up until
nine months planned parenthood help write this measure. They say
it's twenty two weeks, but there are so many loopholes
for abortion right up until nine months.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
And we have a bunch of.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Legislators in our legislature right now who could do something
about it, but they don't want to because they want
to get their five star rating from the pro life groups.
They're so worried about their rating from the pro life
groups that they're willing to allow Arizona to end up
being a state where we have abortion up until nine months.
Buck I'm on a campaign trail. I talk to more
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Arizona than anybody in the country. They are not for
abortion up until nine months. They are not for a
fourteen year old girl going into an abortion clinic without
her mom and dad by her side knowing what's going on.
That is not where Arizona is. But the Democrats have
nothing else to run on, and so they're going to
run on this issue because they have made sure that
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our border is wide open. They've created an invasion unlike
we've ever seen before in our country. They've created a
crime wave in our cities, making it impossible for us
to go enjoy quality of life in our cities. And
enjoy a walk through the park or a bike ride,
or even driving through the cities without worrying about being carjacked.
And they've collapsed our economy to the point that Americans
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cannot afford every day living their everyday expenses. They can't
afford groceries and gas. They have nothing to run on
except this. And I will tell you in talking to Arizonas,
this is not their top priority. They want to save
as many babies as possible.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
That's my goal.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
I am pro life. My goal is not to get
a five star rating from any organization. My goal is
to get more babies saved.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
Ok.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
What would you like to that end? What would you
like the state of Arizona to do between now and
the election?
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Well, I think the legislators could you know, by the way,
there are the ones, the same group in this legislature
past that fifteen week law that we used to have,
and they all voted for it, and now they're saying
it's horrible, but push that aside. I think we need
to work to get some sort of a common sense
initiative on the ballot so that we can go against
this nine month abortion in Arizona. No matter what they
(23:23):
say about it. That's what the current initiative on the
ballot is. It'll have abortion right up until nine months,
so they need to work together. I don't have a
say in that. Buck. I wish I was sitting in
the governor's office, I really do, and I would be
helping them, but I don't have a say in it.
I only have one vote come November fifth. But I
will tell you when I am in the US Senate,
I will not vote for a I will not vote
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for one federal dollar to be spent on abortion, and
I won't vote for a federal abortion band. We worked
hard to bring down the unconstitutional roby Way, and now
it's in the state's hands. Regardless of what happens, we're
going to have fifty different abortion laws.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
So we're going to have to deal.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
With the fact that somewhere in America abortions are happening,
and how do we go into the hearts and minds
and start changing the culture. That's what they did in Hungary.
This is why I've shifted a bit, because I had
opportunity to go to Hungary and I learned that they
cut the number of abortions in half without changing a
single law. And it made me realize we are so
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focused on weeks and months and laws, and we're not
focused on the real issue, which is saving babies and
helping women. And that's what I want to do. That's
what I want, That's what I want a Republican Party
to be about. I want the Republican Party to be
the party of women, babies, and family and put our
money where our mouth is. Planned parents has ballot measure
(24:43):
that they have planned for Arizona is the same as
New York and California. And I can tell you right now,
the people of Arizona are not in the same mindset
as those people who voted for that in New York
and California.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Now, outside of your own race, how do you think
it's looking for the matter up with President Trump and
Joe Biden And are they basically planning to just run
the same playbook that they're going to run against you,
which is just misrepresent the abortion issue and hope that
that alone can deliver Arizona into Democrat hands.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Well, let me tell you, the media here is just disgusting.
I mean, I think it's the worst media in the
whole country. To be honest, they will misrepresent anything. I mean,
I'm going around this state. I'm here up in Mohave County,
Red right now, which is very Republican. We drew a
crowd of a thousand people last night. I've been to
seven stops. Every single stop I've been to has been
(25:37):
maximum plus capacity, standing room only. And the people are
ready to vote for me for Senate. They do not
want Ruben Geigo. He is a far left Chicago Democrat. Actually,
he's a socialist. I'm going to take that back. He's
a socialist who voted for open borders, Thankstuary Cities.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
He's voted with Joe Biden one percent of the time.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
He wants to raise gas prices by a dollar to
punish people who drive gas powered vehicles. He's up for
abortion up until nine months. And listen, I'm not going
to be lectured by a guy like Reuben Diego, who
walked out on his wife days before she gave birth
to his firstborn. He served her divorce papers, walked out
on her, and ran off with a DC lobbyist. So
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pardon me, but I'm not going to be lectured about
life and family.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
By a guy who does that.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
And with President Trump, the people here love him we
miss so much the low unemployment levels. We missed the
low mortgage rates, we missed the low inflation, we missed
the affordability that we used to have in Arizona. I'm
here in Mohave County. I was down in Tucson, which
is much more liberal. But I'll tell you, even in Tucson,
everyone was coming up and saying, we are supporting you.
(26:46):
I had people say I'm a Democrat, I support you,
I will vote for you again. It's so interesting that
the retirees that I've spoken to, some who are recently
retired buck and some who are just about to retire,
they're the most concerned about this economy because they've done
everything right. They worked hard, they paid taxes. They're now
(27:06):
retiring or have been retired for just a bit of time,
and they're looking at the cost of living and.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Saying, Wow, everything I did and saved for is.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Not going to get me through the rest of my
life because I didn't expect us to have the cost
of living go up so much under Joe Biden. People
are awake, and they're ready to vote, and they're ready
to make a big, big change, and they're ready to
vote for President Trump. And carry Lake for US.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Demnet and Carrie you know, I know it's an understatement
to say you know this issue backwards and forwards and
have dealt with it in a very personal way election
integrity going into this cycle for your state for Arizona,
have things improved? Because we get people that write in
all the time and say, have they done anything? Have
they fixed anything? Will it be better this time in Arizona?
(27:51):
What do you say to that We're.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
Working on it.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
There's several lawsuits that are in effect right now, probably
a dozen of them. Some of them are on little
procedural things, and you know, asy GOP with new leadership
Genus of Vota, has been really wonderful on letting us
know where those lawsuits stand. I mean we sued, not
I I didn't, but the acy GOP I believe sued to.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
Stop illegals from voting here and the other.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Side suit us back. I mean, it's insane what they're
pushing for. They know that these dead and Democrat destructive,
deadly policies are not what the people want, and the
only way to get those policies and keep them in
power is to cheat or to have illegals vote. I'm
really encouraged that President Trump and the Speaker of the
(28:35):
House have gotten together on I think it's called the
Save Act, which would prevent illegals from voting. It would
require Blue states to require proof of citizenship before somebody votes.
It would punish anybody who is illegal and registers to
vote with immediate deportation, and any group or outlet or
individual who tries to sign up people knowingly who are
(28:57):
illegal to vote would face five year prison sentence. We
have to start taking our elections and our election integrity seriously.
Some people might say, wow, that's a very long you know,
that's a lot of punishment for just signing somebody up
to vote. But when our elections are run fraudulently and
when they steal elections, we end up getting things like
(29:17):
the disastrous you know pull out from Afghanistan that sent
eighty billion dollars of our high quality military, you know,
the tanks and missiles and guns and weaponry into the
hands of terrorists. We end up with an economy that
is in the toilet. When elections are not run properly,
we end up with a wide open border, We end
(29:38):
up with an invasion, We end up with indoctrination and
sexual you know, grooming of our children. That's what stolen
elections create. So I take it very seriously. When somebody
is signing up someone who is illegal and shouldn't be voting.
When they sign up someone to vote, I think the
punishment should be severe.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Terry.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
What's your website for anyone who wants to help out, donate,
get involved?
Speaker 5 (30:01):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
It's Kerriylake dot com k A r I l a
k E dot com. I'm working really hard here in Arizona.
This is the most important state in the country. It
is the pathway to the White House for President Trump,
and it is the way to the majority in the
US Senate. We must get the majority in the US Senate.
This is where President Trump will have his cabinet members confirmed,
(30:24):
his Supreme Court picks confirmed. We need full voter participation.
We can't have anybody sit home. We can't have people
say well, I'll just skip this one.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
Everyone's got to vote this election.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
We have to outvote the cheat, and I know that
the people of Arizona.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
I'm working closely to make sure that they do that.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
No one can sit home. Everyone needs to get registered
to vote, and everyone needs to vote to save our country.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Garry Lake, He's going to win it for us in
Arizona and help bring it home for President Trump. Kerry,
thanks for being with us.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Thank you, Buck God bless you.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
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Speaker 6 (33:45):
I think the number one most important thing that you
and Clay could do and play and Buck could do
between now an election is to mirror exactly what Kerry
Lake said over and over and over again about people
you gotta vote. You can think that it's that it's
a done deal. You guys talk about these polls. Trump's ahead.
(34:06):
I think if the election was now to be fine,
I think he's gonna win. I think he's gonna win.
But you gotta realize millions of people are listening to you,
and you got all. They don't listen to you all
three hours and they hear that. I don't think you
guys understand the strengths y'all's were to have the millions
of people that listen to you. And there I got
buddies in Illinois who were not gonna vote, that they
(34:28):
were gonna vote on election day they got they got
an invite to a deer hunt and they decided not
to vote. Well, it's they don't need my vote, and
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Speaker 5 (34:38):
I tried to call your show. Do you remember twenty two,
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Speaker 5 (34:46):
How early?
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Early do you think too early is to pop up
Bruski and celebrate the red wave?
Speaker 5 (34:51):
Do you remember that?
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Well, Clay's not here right now, But I do remember
the twenty twenty two was a rough one for Republicans,
and I would just say thank God for now. I
say every day every day that it's going to be
a tight election no matter what. The Democrats are going
to be ruthless and play dirty tricks no matter what.
That too much optimism can work against us. So you know,
we try to have a balance here between plays optimism
(35:16):
and my cynicism about politics. But trust me, we are
both very aware that this is going to be an
absolute fight for the very last day, and every American
who carries with the future of this country needs to
get out there and vote and vote to defeat Biden
and the communist Democrats.
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