April 15, 2024 • 36 mins
Desperate liberals on Twitter, led by Rep. Eric Swalwell, call for Clay's arrest on Trump jury tampering charges. Pro-Hamas protesters shut down Golden Gate Bridge. Iran attacks Israel: Is WWIII really in the offing, or are Iran and Israel both posturing? Trump requests day off from trial for Barron's graduation in May.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. I want to let
you know in advance, I'm not going to be on
the third hour. I've got to travel, but it's not
going to be because I have been arrested, at least
not yet, for saying that any American patriot should vote
to nullify charges against Donald Trump that are one hundred
(00:28):
percent politically motivated. In my mind, in the case that
is beginning today in New York, and I believe if
you care about the future of this country, the idea
that we should be bringing political charges again, make no mistake,
these are one hundred percent politically motivated charges against people
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who are running for president of the United States is
the antithesis of everything that this country represents. And so
jurors have the opportunity need to say no, this is wrong.
And so I think that's the case in New York.
I think that's the case in South Florida. I think
that's the case in DC, and I think that's the
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case in Atlanta. Now it appears maybe only this New
York City case is going to go to trial, but
for saying that, many left wingers now are up in
arms demanding that I be arrested for jury tampering. So
I just think this is so important, And first of all,
I welcome it, all right, Alvin Bragg.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I welcome being arrested.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
For saying that you are bringing a one hundred percent
political case, and that patriotic Americans who have the opportunity
to reject your one hundred percent political charges should, in
my opinion, do so. But think about what we've got now, Buck,
this is where Trump is right.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
They're not going to stop with him.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Think about what these left wingers are now arguing about
with me, Buck. They're not only saying Trump should go
to prison over these bookkeeping errors that are being elevated
from a misdemeanor to a felony that are outside, by
the way, the scope of the Statute of limitations.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
There's all sorts of major legal issues here.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
But they are now arguing that not only should Trump
be arrested for this, people who criticize their political process
should be arrested for what they believe is improper commentary
on their political charges.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I mean that's how expansive this is.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
The Democrats want, or at least this Democrat who's a
member of Congress, Eric Swalwell, the ability to put in place,
effectively a universal gag order so that you're not allowed
to share your opinions. I'm not allowed to share mine,
and no one listening is allowed to share their opinions either.
None of you are allowed to have a public opinion
on the most absurd trial that even some Democrats who
(03:02):
just can't stomach how preposterous this is. Using an unnamed,
unproven federal charge to take what is usually a misdemeanor
campaign finance issue for New York State and elevated to
a felony, and then charged the same felony thirty three times.
These people are psychopathic. There is something wrong with them.
(03:23):
There's something wrong well. Swalwell is truly an imbecile. And obviously,
you know, let's just say a guy who can be
morally compromised, I think pretty easily, you know, we all.
And by the way, I remember when Tucker used to
just lay into him all the time and say that
he slept with a Chinese by and Tucker took a
particular glee and pointing that out. But then you see
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someone like Swawell. I mean, he deserves it. He's a
bad guy, right, He's a bad guy for the country.
He's a bad guy in terms of what he stands
for and what he thinks the First Amendment means.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
That's for sure.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
But I think it also goes to there's going to
be an increasing desperation here. They're not going to back off.
They're gonna get nastier. Biden is a joke. We can
all see it. Biden is an absurdity. He is far
too old. Even in his best days, he was never
up for the job of being president, and his best
days are about twenty or thirty years behind him. Okay,
(04:19):
so we all know what's happening here. The polls are
going against Biden massively, and all of the swing states,
the legal stratagems they have unveiled against Donald Trump are
all looking shaky at best. This is the one case
that they've been able to bring forward. They are going
to get crazier because they're going to get more desperate.
(04:39):
And this is why I don't think there's been enough
attention given to Peter Navarro facing prison for he has
he had to show up already yet. I have to check.
But he's supposed to get months in prison for not
testifying to Congress Alan Weiselberg, Trump's accountant. They sent him
(05:00):
to Rikers Island. Everyone, They sent him a real prison
prison for not counting use of a company car and
his taxes. I mean, this is Soviet stuff they are
doing to people. It is an outrage. Weiselberg and an
elderly man goes to prison for something that most people
don't even honestly know. You have to, you know, because
(05:20):
as a tax thing in the first place, Hunter Biden
walked free for years, illegal gun never filed, had millions
died at all. That is to me that like money
launder it's tax day, everybody. Let's talk about this for
a second. Hunter Biden should have been hit with money
laundering charges. He was actively hiding millions of dollars of income,
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and they thought that they would just make the whole
thing go away for him. And we're supposed to take
what they're doing against Trump with any you know, as
anything other than the most bad faith political hit job possible.
I mean, honestly, the more you think about it, I mean,
we just have to keep going here and you know,
keep our heads about us. But it really is enraging.
(06:01):
It's anger inducing what they're doing to Trump, and I
think more and more people are seeing that.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah, and again this is it's gonna be funny.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
We'll see how long this demand that I be arrested
for saying that no one should vote to convict Trump
will go on. But it is really kind of crazy
because really what it's about is restricting your ability to
speak right. They want to go after big targets and
(06:30):
try to say, oh, you can't say that, and come
after you in that respect. And I just any American
who truly cares about democracy, which is what Joe Biden
claims to care about the idea that you can put
Trump on trial for sham charges in an election year
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and keep him in trial. Judge Marshand just said if
you don't show up for your trial on Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday,
every day of this as this is going on, that
he will arrest Trump.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
So he only gets to campaign on Wednesday. Right, This
is for months now.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
He's going to be in a courtroom in Manhattan sitting
there and on Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday, he is going
to be restricted to having to be there basically from
whatever it is, nine to thirty in the morning till
four thirty in the afternoon. And I mean, this is crazy, right,
This is clear election interference, and they're claiming that Trump
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is the one who's trying to interfere with elections. And
so I just I don't see this as a tough
call at all if you are out there and you
care about the future of America.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
This has never happened before. Buck.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
We talk about unprecedented things a lot in the two
hundred and forty plus year history of the United States
as an independent republic, we have never seen the chief
political opposition try to put their opponent in prison for
the rest of his life. Everyone to your point, surrounding him,
including a radio guy who's just telling you, Hey, I
(08:05):
think this is all wrong and that jury nullification to
me makes sense here, I think you should. They're no
way they're going to get twelve in New York City
a rig system already, They're not gonna get twelve jurors
to agree with Trump.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
But this is a no brainer to me.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Well, someone would also have to explain how it's not
jury tampering. Then for an MSNBC host to say Trump
should be convicted. Of course, I mean so in the
other direction, they'll have no problem with it. Right, it's
jury tampering. According to Swallwell, the idiot if you say
Trump shouldn't be convicted, but I'm sure he doesn't think
it's jury tampering. If somebody with a platform on the
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left says Trump absolutely should, I mean they say that
Trump is they said that he was a trader. I mean,
they've said everything about the guy, and they've they've completely
lost all credibility to anybody who's trying to approach this
with an open and honest mind. But I do think
that there's a sensitivity right now, you're gonna see more
(09:00):
of it. What they're doing in New York is worse
than It's worse than a mistake. It's a blunder. That's
tally Rand right, and I'm gonna get that one wrong
to make sure I got to get my quotes right today.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Worse than a mistake. It's a blunder because it looks
awful they're.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Charging a presidential care The first trial they roll out
is is this And as I've said all along, if
it was reportable as campaign as a campaign expense.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
They tried this actually.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Against John Edwards, something similar ish, right, getting money to
reel Hunter? Right, wasn't that her name? Make sure we
get her name right? I think it's real hunter. They
tried to get that. They got money to her via
a campaign donor for John Edwards. They almost they wanted
that got to be president, by the way, did just
the scummy ambulance chaser John Edwards. And scummy for a
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whole range of reasons. Remember Clay, he only cheated on
his wife when she was dying of cancer while she
was temporarily in remission. So he made sure to point
that out to everybody. He said that on TV. I
didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, he's a He's a real class act,
that John Edwards. But hold on one second.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
They brought this, They got this money to his the
woman you know, who had an affair with who's kind
of like a new age you know, wind chime healing
crystals kind of a person. And then they tried to
charge him with this, and they they found him not
guilty in one and they deadlocked all the others. And
the whole thing was kind of a rebuke of the
federal government going after somebody in this way. It was overreach,
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and now they're trying this on the local level, leveraging
a federal crime that hasn't even been alleged or proved,
or I should say hasn't even been stated or proven.
We don't even know what the federal the federal violation is,
and I mean we can guess, but they haven't even
made it clear. This is this is Leventzi Bert. Sorry,
I'm really going heavy with the quotes to that this
is Lovenzi Barrier. You show me the man, I'll show
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you the crime and we can all see it.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Everyone can see it. What's going on in New York
City right now, and I don't know where it ends. That.
That's the thing that is so interesting about all of this.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I think there's panic setting in because they're recognizing that
the likelihood of there being a.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Of their being an ability to.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Get a conviction in DC, Atlanta or South Florida every
single day is becoming less likely.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
And as a result, way if.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
They bring all these and they don't get any convictions,
that's saying for the election, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I think it's you know, it's like you come at
the King and you miss the line from the wire.
If you come at the King, you best not miss.
I'm paraphrasing, Mom, that's the line. Yeah, they came at Trump.
And if all they're going to get is a bookkeeping felony,
which they may not even get a conviction on. But
if that's all they're able to manage, then I think
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they're going to drastically overreach as it pertains to that right.
And I think that they may try to put Trump
in in prison associated with this because they know there's
no follow up. And to me, it's a desperate ployt
that they're obsessed with what I'm saying about this case.
(12:14):
They're trying to expand the definition of who's allowed to
speak and who's not.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
But it's also a form of panic, right.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I mean, if the Manhattan DA decides to charge me
for saying, hey, I think if you get on this jury,
you should vote not guilty because it's an awful principle
that we are setting of being able to bring charges
such as these.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Now. I wish I would I lived in New York
City and was a part of this jury pool. I'm not.
I haven't been on a jury in a long time.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
I guess about a decade ago, but I can't imagine
something more powerful than being able to say this is wrong.
I'm not going to support it in this case. I
don't even think by the way that it's going to
stand in the years ahead when this goes on appeal.
I don't think the fact that he's elevating a misdemeanor
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to a felony. I don't think that the hook that
he's using. We'll talk about this with Andy McCarthy later
in the week. I don't think the hook that he
is using is going to be effective in a post
appeal process. I think this whole case is going to
get tossed. But the fact that they're trying to get
a conviction in some way to influence the election is
I think particularly distasteful, nasty, and an awful precedent to
(13:28):
be setting.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
But it is showing.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
It's showing us who we're dealing with, and I think
that's I don't think there's going to keep in mind
how how grotesque and dishonorable some of these anti Trump
forces are and are willing to be. I would just say, Clay,
I don't want you to worry, man.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
If they Rikers.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
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You're not gonna run toothpaste. I'm gonna have you covered.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
You're good.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Laura Travis is not going to be pleased with the
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Speaker 1 (13:56):
Although maybe she would maybe I should the house to
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Speaker 2 (13:58):
Maybe she would say would run a little more efficiently
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Can you imagine if We're sitting live on air and
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In the history of the show. They have to drag
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Speaker 2 (14:32):
Who should I get as my lawyer? That's the other question.
Andy McCarthy would be elite. I think criminal defense attorney
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Speaker 3 (16:28):
We were talking to you a little bit about the protesters.
One of them or some of them went up to Fetterman.
The Palestinian protesters out there. They have shut down the
Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco. So they are whatever
the opposite of winning hearts and minds. Shutting down a
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bridge and preventing people from getting to their lives, their
jobs or whatever.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I think that is it.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
I don't think in the history of the country, I
can't think of anyone or I can't imagine anyone would say, oh,
they made me late for work.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
I agree with their cause. Now do you know what
I mean? Like for me, this is just making everyone
hate you, and it's so inconsiderate and so.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Childish, and you should, I think, be arrested and prosecuted
for blocking the road. In fact, I would suggest we
need more significant laws that make it clear that if
you actually give these people punishments that are significant.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
They're not going to block the road.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
It's dangerous, it's inconsiderate and to your point, anybody who
blocks the road in the United States, I've never seen
this and thought, you know what, I like their cause more.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I don't care what the politics are.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I've never seen anybody block a road in the United
States and be like, hey, you know what, they made
me think.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Differently about this. I'm more inclined to support them now.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I was really pro Israel, but then these guys made
me two hours late for work, and now I'm all
about hamas like, I don't think that's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Doesn't happen.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Bock Sexton Show. Okay, let's
talk this Aaron Israel situation that I'm sure many of
you were watching and paying a great deal of attention
to over the weekend, and we're still waiting to see what,
if anything, Israel's response to an unprecedented, first time ever
direct attack from Iran on Israel brings about. Okay, so Buck,
(19:15):
I tweeted about this some over the weekend because and
I want you to put your CIA analyst hat on
here and break this down for me. I'm going to
lay out some things that stood out to me that
seem very strange. So I can't remember any attack, and
I'm putting attack in quotation marks. That was this widely
discussed in the media, to the point where Joe Biden
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actually left Camp David I believe, or maybe it was
Rehoba Beach wherever he was, and flew back to the
White House so that he could be present for the
Iran attack on Israel. I've never seen this happen before.
It's one thing if we have a super secret attack
that we are engaging in and the President goes down
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into the situation room. Think Obama when we're taking out
Osama bin Laden, which, by the way, Joe Biden opposed
that raid that took out Osama bin Laden.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Remember he's wrong on everything. But if the.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
American president is doing something and it's a secret and
he goes into the situation room and he watches it,
we don't know about it in advance.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Later we find out about it.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
I can't remember an adversary which Iran clearly is attacking
an ally, which Israel clearly is, that we knew was
happening to such an extent that the President took cut
short his vacation, flew back to the White House, went
in and waited for it. This felt to me and
still feels to me, buck like it is basically like
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shadow boxing. And what I mean by that is neither
side really trying to knock the other out, and it's
all for show that Israel was with the assistance of
the United States. I think England, Saudi Arabia, maybe Jordan
as well, going to be able to shoot down all
of these or most of these Iranian attacks drones and missiles,
and as a result, it was unlikely to be very successful,
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but Iran gets to puff its chest out and say, see,
we're not going to stand up for this Israeli aggression.
And meanwhile Israel knows that that attack from Iran is
not going to be successful. And now the question is
what's the next step. But it all felt very staged
to me. It did not feel real. Am I reading
this in your mind incorrectly? How would you assess this?
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Can you remember a situation like this in the past,
because I really can't.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Well, what makes this new is the direct strike from
Iran on Israel. Usually they work through proxys, third parties,
intermediate terrorist groups.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I mean it's terrorists that they did that.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
This is why Iran funds funds trains, works with coordinates
with hesbala Hamas of the Huthis in Yemen, whole range
of Shia militias in Iraq. They work, you know, they're
they're active for the Asad regime in Syria. They back
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up the worst of the worst throughout the Middle East.
But they will use those entities to strike at Israel.
Israeli citizens is really interest whenever they can. The difference
now is that Iranas is decided, but we're going to
send the stuff. Now, there's a case to be made
that militarily, if let's say Hesbola were to open up
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a front in the north of Israel simultaneously to an
Iranian strike like this, they may be able to overwhelm
the defense capabilities of the IDF, including the you know,
Jordanian Air Force helped out here. There were there were
a number of of you know, allies that also stepped
in to prevent this strike from from happening or from
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you know, hitting any casualties. But now you get to
a why do this right? I mean, the do the
Iranians really think that they were going to get through
and they were going to be able to hit them
or was this all just essentially.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
For show?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
You know, the Iranians had something similar to this if
you remember when Trump ordered the strike on Costom Solomani
in in Iraq, and Costom Solomoni was the head of
the Iranian Revolutionary Guards KODS force and was very well
known throughout the Middle East for being kind of like
the prince of evil in the sense, I mean he
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was behind a lot of the terrorist factions and the
murder of US troops in Iraq. For example, Remember we
weren't at war with Iran, but the Iranian government was
assisting in the creation of these explosively formed penetrators e FPS,
which is a specific munition and explosive meant to breach
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the wholes of US vehicles and to kill American servicemen,
just to kill people, just to kill our people, just
because the Iranians wanted to so did that. And then
there there were those strikes on the American airfield in Iraq,
and I don't believe anybody.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Was killed in those. I have to go back and
check and see.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
But this is a we are showing you that we
can do something too moment by Iran. The bigger issue
is over the long run, does it escalate, does it
become something that the Iranians aside. Well, now we know
that we can hit them directly, and since we can
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hit them directly, maybe we'll do more the next time around.
Maybe we'll coordinate. As I said with Hesblo would be
the one that's particularly just because of the proximity and
the amount of munitions they have. But they can just
fire so many rockets in the air that it's just
impossible for the Israelis to be able to shoot them
all down. But this is all just posturing by the
Iranians around the issue of Gaza and the Palestinians and Hamas.
(24:56):
I think that it will likely calm down a bit.
And I thought all along that Iran will make noises
and saber rattle if you will. That's the term they
was used international relations. I don't see this spiraling out
on becoming a bigger thing. People are saying, well, what
if Israel hits them back? Well, if Israel hits them back,
first of all, it is really very quiet about it.
But they've been doing stuff against Iran for quite some time.
(25:19):
Unless they had some massive aerial campaign, it would have
to be a campaign against Iran hitting let's say, nuclear
facilities or something like that. I don't see this becoming
a more all out war situation. I think that this
is probably just a new phase we're in.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
So the big question I think going forward is the
one you said, like, Okay, where does this go from here?
But this is why Iran wants nuclear weapons, because their
idea is once they have them, then the likelihood of
them being attacked becomes very low. For instance, Ukraine gave
up its nuclear weapons and as a part of giving
(25:56):
up its nuclear weapons. If you remember Buck, Basically the
United States said, hey, hey, we'll protect you. Do you
think Russia would have invaded Ukraine if Ukraine had maintained
its nuclear arsenal.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Of course, and that's why the Buddhapest Memorandum, man A,
that's a tough lesson to learn. Ukraine had the third
most nukes in the world at the fall of the
Soviet Union and Russia. The UK and America were like,
don't worry, Ukraine, hand over your nukes. We've got your back.
Fast forward many decades or several decades, and Russia's like, well, actually,
(26:31):
we're gonna invade and take and take over your country. Yes,
And so I think Iran has taken the lesson that, eventually,
if they are able, and by the same goal that
North Korea has, that the number one way to secure
your borders and avoid anyone ever trying to overthrow your
government is to have nuclear power. I am somewhat encouraged
(26:53):
that Saudi Arabia and Jordan, among others, were involved in
helping to shoot down these Iranian missiles, but it definitely
feels it definitely feels as if to me this was
all one big show and there's a report out there
that Biden knew everything about this and basically said, you
(27:13):
can attack, but you can't attack that much, which feels
very political to me because Biden is underwater in Michigan
and he's in a really tough spot between how Jewish
voters are going to go and make decisions when they
go to the polls and how all of this is
going to play out, and so to me, like, it's
(27:34):
really kind of intriguing to think about in terms.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Of how this is all going to shake down.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Yeah, I also think that unfortunately, in the media environment
in which we all exist, the incentive is always to overstate,
you know, well this could turn into you know, people
have been calling for China's imminent invasion of Tyrene, know,
saying that it's about to invade Taiwan for like twenty
years now, I mean, and somehow it hasn't happen. Right,
(28:01):
World War three as a headline gets clicks. Anybody who
has I was actually reading about World War One up
the weekends, is what I do. Anybody with any familiarity
about either those conflicts knows we want to do everything
possible to avoid anything even remotely resembling what the country
went through in the first half of the twentieth century,
so we're a long way away from that right now.
(28:22):
I know it's unsettling what's going on in the Middle East,
but unfortunately for the Middle East, this is this is
how it goes.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
It's also interesting that there was a great deal of
faith in Israel's Iron Dome to be able to protect
itself from this direct attack. Now again, I know, the
United States, maybe England, also Jordan, in Saudi Arabia i've
seen reportedly were involved in this as well. But if
Israel couldn't defend itself, then there would have been thousands
(28:50):
of deaths based on the sheer volume of missiles and
drones that Iran sent into Israel. Well, this had been
true for a lot long time of Hamas as well.
When they would fire these rockets, they get shot out
of the sky, and people started to almost accept this
as a new status quo. But it can't be the
status quo that you have to keep stopping somebody from
(29:11):
killing your people, right, that's an unacceptable status quo. And
we'll see if Iran tries to. You know, Iranian technology
is basically you know, in terms of its missiles, a
lot of it's like Soviet era stuff and North Korean
borrowed or bought stuff. So you know, they're not that
sophisticated Iran as a conventional military power. And look, there's
(29:34):
a reason they use these proxies because ultimately a lot
of these proxy forces that are backed by Iran, you know,
they're only good at, you know, murdering old ladies with
AK forty seven who have no ability to defend themselves.
I mean, that's really that's where Iranian you know, the
Iranian mullahs and the evil regime that runs that country,
they excel at terrorism, they excel at hitting soft targets.
(29:55):
They against the conventional military force, they would get absolutely annihilated.
And you know, it turns out the Iranian or the
Islamic Republic of Iran and the Iranian Revolution in terms
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not been arrested yet for my opinion that any red
blooded American who is a patriot should vote not guilty
in the New York City trial that is set to
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they would ask Andy who he would go with, Probably
that would be my move. Will you think Dershowitz would
take me on? What sports?
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Is he like the Yankees or something? I mean, you'd
probably have the whole sports guy. Ye, Dershowitz on I
thought we had a decent rapport. Uh, you know, I
think I mean he got oj off. I mean, if
he got oj off, you know, I would think he
could get me off. They gotta be careful on that praise.
But I would think that that he would be maybe
have decent appeal in front of New York City jury.
(33:08):
By the way, this contron even where to go with
this right now, this conturn I'm just trying to think
through who I would want to be my lawyer of
the media, of the media lawyer, folks. Andy would be
very high on my list.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
I would hope that Julie Kelly would cover the trial too,
because I think Julie would do a really good job
of accurately covering my trial if you missed it. The
Democrats are demanding that I'd be arrested for jury tampering.
Eric Swallwell chief among them, although I can't even keep
up with all the people demanding my arrest right now
for saying that red blood and American patriot should vote
(33:42):
not guilty. Tell everybody it should be illegal to be
that good looking. So I do worry that the lighting
might not be great in the in the courtroom. I
don't know how I would look. Remember when Brady had
the awful sketch the sketch artist the sketch artists started doing.
Remember the ugly Brady's sketch artist. I mean what I
don't want that guy if he made Tom Brady look
(34:02):
ugly in the courtroom sketch, I mean, what would he
do to me? I would be uh, I would I
would look I would look like the scariest human who's
ever existed. By the way, this could turn into a story.
Buck Trump has requested a day off to attend Baron
Trump's high school graduation, which is set in May.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Eighteen years old. I believe graduating from high school in May.
Six foot ten.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
By the way, too, have you seen that kid in
photos recently? Kids should be playing for the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Yeah, he could play the four or the five based
on his size. Certainly in high school he'd maybe the
greatest WNBA player of all time if he decided to
identify as a woman, but the court has not said
whether they will allow that, And if he can't go
to his son's high school graduation next month, then merchand
(34:54):
has said if Trump didn't show up that he would
arrest him. So Trump might get arrested for going to
his son's high school graduation based on the discussions that
are taking place in this courtroom right now. He has
not said whether he would grant Trump's ability to not
be in court that day. And so if Trump decided, hey,
(35:16):
you know what, I'm gonna go see my son graduate,
Merchant is saying he would arrest him at the graduation ceremonies.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
I mean, what are we doing here.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
You're gonna arrest a guy for going to his eighteen
year old senior son's graduation. You gotta arrest a guy
on the radio for saying that this is an affront
to American justice to be trying to put him into
prison in the first place. This is where absolutism leads.
You don't get more rational once you become an absolutist.
(35:50):
You like history, buck the French Revolution, They end up
guillotining themselves. Before all is done, Rose Pierre makes everybody
march there, and.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Then he ended up getting idiot safety man deciding who
gets their head chopped off behind closed doors all of
the revolution.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Of course, the notes bear got it himself, no surprise,
so we'll see. I'm not being arrested yet.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I'm gonna be in Atlanta tomorrow in case the Da
Bragg needs to arrest me there, and then I'm gonna
be out. I'm speaking at an event in Georgia, and
then I'm flying out for our friends at Hillsdale. I'll
be in Seattle, so if Alvin Bragg needs to arrest
me there, I don't want it to seem like I'm
fleeing OJ style all over the country. Go into Atlanta.
I'll be on the show from Atlanta tomorrow, and then
(36:32):
I'm going to Seattle to speak out there. So if
Alvin Bragg needs to arrest me, i will not be
at the house. There's no need to kick the door in,
there's no need to raid the Travis family home. I
will be in Atlanta and I'll be in Seattle.
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Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. I want to let
you know in advance, I'm not going to be on
the third hour. I've got to travel, but it's not
going to be because I have been arrested, at least
not yet, for saying that any American patriot should vote
to nullify charges against Donald Trump that are one hundred
(00:28):
percent politically motivated. In my mind, in the case that
is beginning today in New York, and I believe if
you care about the future of this country, the idea
that we should be bringing political charges again, make no mistake,
these are one hundred percent politically motivated charges against people
(00:49):
who are running for president of the United States is
the antithesis of everything that this country represents. And so
jurors have the opportunity need to say no, this is wrong.
And so I think that's the case in New York.
I think that's the case in South Florida. I think
that's the case in DC, and I think that's the
(01:10):
case in Atlanta. Now it appears maybe only this New
York City case is going to go to trial, but
for saying that, many left wingers now are up in
arms demanding that I be arrested for jury tampering. So
I just think this is so important, And first of all,
I welcome it, all right, Alvin Bragg.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I welcome being arrested.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
For saying that you are bringing a one hundred percent
political case, and that patriotic Americans who have the opportunity
to reject your one hundred percent political charges should, in
my opinion, do so. But think about what we've got now, Buck,
this is where Trump is right.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
They're not going to stop with him.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Think about what these left wingers are now arguing about
with me, Buck. They're not only saying Trump should go
to prison over these bookkeeping errors that are being elevated
from a misdemeanor to a felony that are outside, by
the way, the scope of the Statute of limitations.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
There's all sorts of major legal issues here.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
But they are now arguing that not only should Trump
be arrested for this, people who criticize their political process
should be arrested for what they believe is improper commentary
on their political charges.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I mean that's how expansive this is.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
The Democrats want, or at least this Democrat who's a
member of Congress, Eric Swalwell, the ability to put in place,
effectively a universal gag order so that you're not allowed
to share your opinions. I'm not allowed to share mine,
and no one listening is allowed to share their opinions either.
None of you are allowed to have a public opinion
on the most absurd trial that even some Democrats who
(03:02):
just can't stomach how preposterous this is. Using an unnamed,
unproven federal charge to take what is usually a misdemeanor
campaign finance issue for New York State and elevated to
a felony, and then charged the same felony thirty three times.
These people are psychopathic. There is something wrong with them.
(03:23):
There's something wrong well. Swalwell is truly an imbecile. And obviously,
you know, let's just say a guy who can be
morally compromised, I think pretty easily, you know, we all.
And by the way, I remember when Tucker used to
just lay into him all the time and say that
he slept with a Chinese by and Tucker took a
particular glee and pointing that out. But then you see
(03:45):
someone like Swawell. I mean, he deserves it. He's a
bad guy, right, He's a bad guy for the country.
He's a bad guy in terms of what he stands
for and what he thinks the First Amendment means.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
That's for sure.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
But I think it also goes to there's going to
be an increasing desperation here. They're not going to back off.
They're gonna get nastier. Biden is a joke. We can
all see it. Biden is an absurdity. He is far
too old. Even in his best days, he was never
up for the job of being president, and his best
days are about twenty or thirty years behind him. Okay,
(04:19):
so we all know what's happening here. The polls are
going against Biden massively, and all of the swing states,
the legal stratagems they have unveiled against Donald Trump are
all looking shaky at best. This is the one case
that they've been able to bring forward. They are going
to get crazier because they're going to get more desperate.
(04:39):
And this is why I don't think there's been enough
attention given to Peter Navarro facing prison for he has
he had to show up already yet. I have to check.
But he's supposed to get months in prison for not
testifying to Congress Alan Weiselberg, Trump's accountant. They sent him
(05:00):
to Rikers Island. Everyone, They sent him a real prison
prison for not counting use of a company car and
his taxes. I mean, this is Soviet stuff they are
doing to people. It is an outrage. Weiselberg and an
elderly man goes to prison for something that most people
don't even honestly know. You have to, you know, because
(05:20):
as a tax thing in the first place, Hunter Biden
walked free for years, illegal gun never filed, had millions
died at all. That is to me that like money
launder it's tax day, everybody. Let's talk about this for
a second. Hunter Biden should have been hit with money
laundering charges. He was actively hiding millions of dollars of income,
(05:41):
and they thought that they would just make the whole
thing go away for him. And we're supposed to take
what they're doing against Trump with any you know, as
anything other than the most bad faith political hit job possible.
I mean, honestly, the more you think about it, I mean,
we just have to keep going here and you know,
keep our heads about us. But it really is enraging.
(06:01):
It's anger inducing what they're doing to Trump, and I
think more and more people are seeing that.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah, and again this is it's gonna be funny.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
We'll see how long this demand that I be arrested
for saying that no one should vote to convict Trump
will go on. But it is really kind of crazy
because really what it's about is restricting your ability to
speak right. They want to go after big targets and
(06:30):
try to say, oh, you can't say that, and come
after you in that respect. And I just any American
who truly cares about democracy, which is what Joe Biden
claims to care about the idea that you can put
Trump on trial for sham charges in an election year
(06:54):
and keep him in trial. Judge Marshand just said if
you don't show up for your trial on Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday,
every day of this as this is going on, that
he will arrest Trump.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
So he only gets to campaign on Wednesday. Right, This
is for months now.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
He's going to be in a courtroom in Manhattan sitting
there and on Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday, he is going
to be restricted to having to be there basically from
whatever it is, nine to thirty in the morning till
four thirty in the afternoon. And I mean, this is crazy, right,
This is clear election interference, and they're claiming that Trump
(07:33):
is the one who's trying to interfere with elections. And
so I just I don't see this as a tough
call at all if you are out there and you
care about the future of America.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
This has never happened before. Buck.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
We talk about unprecedented things a lot in the two
hundred and forty plus year history of the United States
as an independent republic, we have never seen the chief
political opposition try to put their opponent in prison for
the rest of his life. Everyone to your point, surrounding him,
including a radio guy who's just telling you, Hey, I
(08:05):
think this is all wrong and that jury nullification to
me makes sense here, I think you should. They're no
way they're going to get twelve in New York City
a rig system already, They're not gonna get twelve jurors
to agree with Trump.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
But this is a no brainer to me.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Well, someone would also have to explain how it's not
jury tampering. Then for an MSNBC host to say Trump
should be convicted. Of course, I mean so in the
other direction, they'll have no problem with it. Right, it's
jury tampering. According to Swallwell, the idiot if you say
Trump shouldn't be convicted, but I'm sure he doesn't think
it's jury tampering. If somebody with a platform on the
(08:40):
left says Trump absolutely should, I mean they say that
Trump is they said that he was a trader. I mean,
they've said everything about the guy, and they've they've completely
lost all credibility to anybody who's trying to approach this
with an open and honest mind. But I do think
that there's a sensitivity right now, you're gonna see more
(09:00):
of it. What they're doing in New York is worse
than It's worse than a mistake. It's a blunder. That's
tally Rand right, and I'm gonna get that one wrong
to make sure I got to get my quotes right today.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Worse than a mistake. It's a blunder because it looks
awful they're.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Charging a presidential care The first trial they roll out
is is this And as I've said all along, if
it was reportable as campaign as a campaign expense.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
They tried this actually.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Against John Edwards, something similar ish, right, getting money to
reel Hunter? Right, wasn't that her name? Make sure we
get her name right? I think it's real hunter. They
tried to get that. They got money to her via
a campaign donor for John Edwards. They almost they wanted
that got to be president, by the way, did just
the scummy ambulance chaser John Edwards. And scummy for a
(09:55):
whole range of reasons. Remember Clay, he only cheated on
his wife when she was dying of cancer while she
was temporarily in remission. So he made sure to point
that out to everybody. He said that on TV. I
didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, he's a He's a real class act,
that John Edwards. But hold on one second.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
They brought this, They got this money to his the
woman you know, who had an affair with who's kind
of like a new age you know, wind chime healing
crystals kind of a person. And then they tried to
charge him with this, and they they found him not
guilty in one and they deadlocked all the others. And
the whole thing was kind of a rebuke of the
federal government going after somebody in this way. It was overreach,
(10:34):
and now they're trying this on the local level, leveraging
a federal crime that hasn't even been alleged or proved,
or I should say hasn't even been stated or proven.
We don't even know what the federal the federal violation is,
and I mean we can guess, but they haven't even
made it clear. This is this is Leventzi Bert. Sorry,
I'm really going heavy with the quotes to that this
is Lovenzi Barrier. You show me the man, I'll show
(10:55):
you the crime and we can all see it.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Everyone can see it. What's going on in New York
City right now, and I don't know where it ends. That.
That's the thing that is so interesting about all of this.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I think there's panic setting in because they're recognizing that
the likelihood of there being a.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Of their being an ability to.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Get a conviction in DC, Atlanta or South Florida every
single day is becoming less likely.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
And as a result, way if.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
They bring all these and they don't get any convictions,
that's saying for the election, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I think it's you know, it's like you come at
the King and you miss the line from the wire.
If you come at the King, you best not miss.
I'm paraphrasing, Mom, that's the line. Yeah, they came at Trump.
And if all they're going to get is a bookkeeping felony,
which they may not even get a conviction on. But
if that's all they're able to manage, then I think
(11:53):
they're going to drastically overreach as it pertains to that right.
And I think that they may try to put Trump
in in prison associated with this because they know there's
no follow up. And to me, it's a desperate ployt
that they're obsessed with what I'm saying about this case.
(12:14):
They're trying to expand the definition of who's allowed to
speak and who's not.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
But it's also a form of panic, right.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I mean, if the Manhattan DA decides to charge me
for saying, hey, I think if you get on this jury,
you should vote not guilty because it's an awful principle
that we are setting of being able to bring charges
such as these.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Now. I wish I would I lived in New York
City and was a part of this jury pool. I'm not.
I haven't been on a jury in a long time.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
I guess about a decade ago, but I can't imagine
something more powerful than being able to say this is wrong.
I'm not going to support it in this case. I
don't even think by the way that it's going to
stand in the years ahead when this goes on appeal.
I don't think the fact that he's elevating a misdemeanor
(13:03):
to a felony. I don't think that the hook that
he's using. We'll talk about this with Andy McCarthy later
in the week. I don't think the hook that he
is using is going to be effective in a post
appeal process. I think this whole case is going to
get tossed. But the fact that they're trying to get
a conviction in some way to influence the election is
I think particularly distasteful, nasty, and an awful precedent to
(13:28):
be setting.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
But it is showing.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
It's showing us who we're dealing with, and I think
that's I don't think there's going to keep in mind
how how grotesque and dishonorable some of these anti Trump
forces are and are willing to be. I would just say, Clay,
I don't want you to worry, man.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
If they Rikers.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
I'm gonna make sure your commissary has plenty of funds.
You're not gonna run toothpaste. I'm gonna have you covered.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
You're good.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Laura Travis is not going to be pleased with the
idea of me being arrested over the over New Yorks.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Although maybe she would maybe I should the house to
be quieter.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Maybe she would say would run a little more efficiently
if if I were serving time in the in the
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Up in New York? It goes, can you imagine?
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Buck?
Speaker 1 (14:07):
If they the Big House? Can you imagine the Who's Cow?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Can you imagine if We're sitting live on air and
I'm like, like, literally, they come in and arrest me,
and you just have to take the show because you're like, well,
Clay just got arrested by New York City prosecutors, so
I'm gonna have to finish the show today. I think
it probably be the greatest most watched segment, listened to segment.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
In the history of the show. They have to drag
me out.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Who should I get as my lawyer? That's the other question.
Andy McCarthy would be elite. I think criminal defense attorney
in New York. I'd have to do the research. I'm
already starting to think who I would pick. I want
to tell you to begin to do in research.
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A lot of you out there, I bet watch the Masters.
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Speaker 3 (16:28):
We were talking to you a little bit about the protesters.
One of them or some of them went up to Fetterman.
The Palestinian protesters out there. They have shut down the
Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco. So they are whatever
the opposite of winning hearts and minds. Shutting down a
(16:50):
bridge and preventing people from getting to their lives, their
jobs or whatever.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I think that is it.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
I don't think in the history of the country, I
can't think of anyone or I can't imagine anyone would say, oh,
they made me late for work.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
I agree with their cause. Now do you know what
I mean? Like for me, this is just making everyone
hate you, and it's so inconsiderate and so.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Childish, and you should, I think, be arrested and prosecuted
for blocking the road. In fact, I would suggest we
need more significant laws that make it clear that if
you actually give these people punishments that are significant.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
They're not going to block the road.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
It's dangerous, it's inconsiderate and to your point, anybody who
blocks the road in the United States, I've never seen
this and thought, you know what, I like their cause more.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I don't care what the politics are.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I've never seen anybody block a road in the United
States and be like, hey, you know what, they made
me think.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Differently about this. I'm more inclined to support them now.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I was really pro Israel, but then these guys made
me two hours late for work, and now I'm all
about hamas like, I don't think that's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Doesn't happen.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Bock Sexton Show. Okay, let's
talk this Aaron Israel situation that I'm sure many of
you were watching and paying a great deal of attention
to over the weekend, and we're still waiting to see what,
if anything, Israel's response to an unprecedented, first time ever
direct attack from Iran on Israel brings about. Okay, so Buck,
(19:15):
I tweeted about this some over the weekend because and
I want you to put your CIA analyst hat on
here and break this down for me. I'm going to
lay out some things that stood out to me that
seem very strange. So I can't remember any attack, and
I'm putting attack in quotation marks. That was this widely
discussed in the media, to the point where Joe Biden
(19:37):
actually left Camp David I believe, or maybe it was
Rehoba Beach wherever he was, and flew back to the
White House so that he could be present for the
Iran attack on Israel. I've never seen this happen before.
It's one thing if we have a super secret attack
that we are engaging in and the President goes down
(19:57):
into the situation room. Think Obama when we're taking out
Osama bin Laden, which, by the way, Joe Biden opposed
that raid that took out Osama bin Laden.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Remember he's wrong on everything. But if the.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
American president is doing something and it's a secret and
he goes into the situation room and he watches it,
we don't know about it in advance.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Later we find out about it.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
I can't remember an adversary which Iran clearly is attacking
an ally, which Israel clearly is, that we knew was
happening to such an extent that the President took cut
short his vacation, flew back to the White House, went
in and waited for it. This felt to me and
still feels to me, buck like it is basically like
(20:39):
shadow boxing. And what I mean by that is neither
side really trying to knock the other out, and it's
all for show that Israel was with the assistance of
the United States. I think England, Saudi Arabia, maybe Jordan
as well, going to be able to shoot down all
of these or most of these Iranian attacks drones and missiles,
and as a result, it was unlikely to be very successful,
(21:03):
but Iran gets to puff its chest out and say, see,
we're not going to stand up for this Israeli aggression.
And meanwhile Israel knows that that attack from Iran is
not going to be successful. And now the question is
what's the next step. But it all felt very staged
to me. It did not feel real. Am I reading
this in your mind incorrectly? How would you assess this?
(21:27):
Can you remember a situation like this in the past,
because I really can't.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Well, what makes this new is the direct strike from
Iran on Israel. Usually they work through proxys, third parties,
intermediate terrorist groups.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I mean it's terrorists that they did that.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
This is why Iran funds funds trains, works with coordinates
with hesbala Hamas of the Huthis in Yemen, whole range
of Shia militias in Iraq. They work, you know, they're
they're active for the Asad regime in Syria. They back
(22:04):
up the worst of the worst throughout the Middle East.
But they will use those entities to strike at Israel.
Israeli citizens is really interest whenever they can. The difference
now is that Iranas is decided, but we're going to
send the stuff. Now, there's a case to be made
that militarily, if let's say Hesbola were to open up
(22:26):
a front in the north of Israel simultaneously to an
Iranian strike like this, they may be able to overwhelm
the defense capabilities of the IDF, including the you know,
Jordanian Air Force helped out here. There were there were
a number of of you know, allies that also stepped
in to prevent this strike from from happening or from
(22:49):
you know, hitting any casualties. But now you get to
a why do this right? I mean, the do the
Iranians really think that they were going to get through
and they were going to be able to hit them
or was this all just essentially.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
For show?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
You know, the Iranians had something similar to this if
you remember when Trump ordered the strike on Costom Solomani
in in Iraq, and Costom Solomoni was the head of
the Iranian Revolutionary Guards KODS force and was very well
known throughout the Middle East for being kind of like
the prince of evil in the sense, I mean he
(23:28):
was behind a lot of the terrorist factions and the
murder of US troops in Iraq. For example, Remember we
weren't at war with Iran, but the Iranian government was
assisting in the creation of these explosively formed penetrators e FPS,
which is a specific munition and explosive meant to breach
(23:52):
the wholes of US vehicles and to kill American servicemen,
just to kill people, just to kill our people, just
because the Iranians wanted to so did that. And then
there there were those strikes on the American airfield in Iraq,
and I don't believe anybody.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Was killed in those. I have to go back and
check and see.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
But this is a we are showing you that we
can do something too moment by Iran. The bigger issue
is over the long run, does it escalate, does it
become something that the Iranians aside. Well, now we know
that we can hit them directly, and since we can
(24:32):
hit them directly, maybe we'll do more the next time around.
Maybe we'll coordinate. As I said with Hesblo would be
the one that's particularly just because of the proximity and
the amount of munitions they have. But they can just
fire so many rockets in the air that it's just
impossible for the Israelis to be able to shoot them
all down. But this is all just posturing by the
Iranians around the issue of Gaza and the Palestinians and Hamas.
(24:56):
I think that it will likely calm down a bit.
And I thought all along that Iran will make noises
and saber rattle if you will. That's the term they
was used international relations. I don't see this spiraling out
on becoming a bigger thing. People are saying, well, what
if Israel hits them back? Well, if Israel hits them back,
first of all, it is really very quiet about it.
But they've been doing stuff against Iran for quite some time.
(25:19):
Unless they had some massive aerial campaign, it would have
to be a campaign against Iran hitting let's say, nuclear
facilities or something like that. I don't see this becoming
a more all out war situation. I think that this
is probably just a new phase we're in.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
So the big question I think going forward is the
one you said, like, Okay, where does this go from here?
But this is why Iran wants nuclear weapons, because their
idea is once they have them, then the likelihood of
them being attacked becomes very low. For instance, Ukraine gave
up its nuclear weapons and as a part of giving
(25:56):
up its nuclear weapons. If you remember Buck, Basically the
United States said, hey, hey, we'll protect you. Do you
think Russia would have invaded Ukraine if Ukraine had maintained
its nuclear arsenal.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Of course, and that's why the Buddhapest Memorandum, man A,
that's a tough lesson to learn. Ukraine had the third
most nukes in the world at the fall of the
Soviet Union and Russia. The UK and America were like,
don't worry, Ukraine, hand over your nukes. We've got your back.
Fast forward many decades or several decades, and Russia's like, well, actually,
(26:31):
we're gonna invade and take and take over your country. Yes,
And so I think Iran has taken the lesson that, eventually,
if they are able, and by the same goal that
North Korea has, that the number one way to secure
your borders and avoid anyone ever trying to overthrow your
government is to have nuclear power. I am somewhat encouraged
(26:53):
that Saudi Arabia and Jordan, among others, were involved in
helping to shoot down these Iranian missiles, but it definitely
feels it definitely feels as if to me this was
all one big show and there's a report out there
that Biden knew everything about this and basically said, you
(27:13):
can attack, but you can't attack that much, which feels
very political to me because Biden is underwater in Michigan
and he's in a really tough spot between how Jewish
voters are going to go and make decisions when they
go to the polls and how all of this is
going to play out, and so to me, like, it's
(27:34):
really kind of intriguing to think about in terms.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Of how this is all going to shake down.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Yeah, I also think that unfortunately, in the media environment
in which we all exist, the incentive is always to overstate,
you know, well this could turn into you know, people
have been calling for China's imminent invasion of Tyrene, know,
saying that it's about to invade Taiwan for like twenty
years now, I mean, and somehow it hasn't happen. Right,
(28:01):
World War three as a headline gets clicks. Anybody who
has I was actually reading about World War One up
the weekends, is what I do. Anybody with any familiarity
about either those conflicts knows we want to do everything
possible to avoid anything even remotely resembling what the country
went through in the first half of the twentieth century,
so we're a long way away from that right now.
(28:22):
I know it's unsettling what's going on in the Middle East,
but unfortunately for the Middle East, this is this is
how it goes.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
It's also interesting that there was a great deal of
faith in Israel's Iron Dome to be able to protect
itself from this direct attack. Now again, I know, the
United States, maybe England, also Jordan, in Saudi Arabia i've
seen reportedly were involved in this as well. But if
Israel couldn't defend itself, then there would have been thousands
(28:50):
of deaths based on the sheer volume of missiles and
drones that Iran sent into Israel. Well, this had been
true for a lot long time of Hamas as well.
When they would fire these rockets, they get shot out
of the sky, and people started to almost accept this
as a new status quo. But it can't be the
status quo that you have to keep stopping somebody from
(29:11):
killing your people, right, that's an unacceptable status quo. And
we'll see if Iran tries to. You know, Iranian technology
is basically you know, in terms of its missiles, a
lot of it's like Soviet era stuff and North Korean
borrowed or bought stuff. So you know, they're not that
sophisticated Iran as a conventional military power. And look, there's
(29:34):
a reason they use these proxies because ultimately a lot
of these proxy forces that are backed by Iran, you know,
they're only good at, you know, murdering old ladies with
AK forty seven who have no ability to defend themselves.
I mean, that's really that's where Iranian you know, the
Iranian mullahs and the evil regime that runs that country,
they excel at terrorism, they excel at hitting soft targets.
(29:55):
They against the conventional military force, they would get absolutely annihilated.
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they would ask Andy who he would go with, Probably
that would be my move. Will you think Dershowitz would
take me on? What sports?
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Is he like the Yankees or something? I mean, you'd
probably have the whole sports guy. Ye, Dershowitz on I
thought we had a decent rapport. Uh, you know, I
think I mean he got oj off. I mean, if
he got oj off, you know, I would think he
could get me off. They gotta be careful on that praise.
But I would think that that he would be maybe
have decent appeal in front of New York City jury.
(33:08):
By the way, this contron even where to go with
this right now, this conturn I'm just trying to think
through who I would want to be my lawyer of
the media, of the media lawyer, folks. Andy would be
very high on my list.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
I would hope that Julie Kelly would cover the trial too,
because I think Julie would do a really good job
of accurately covering my trial if you missed it. The
Democrats are demanding that I'd be arrested for jury tampering.
Eric Swallwell chief among them, although I can't even keep
up with all the people demanding my arrest right now
for saying that red blood and American patriot should vote
(33:42):
not guilty. Tell everybody it should be illegal to be
that good looking. So I do worry that the lighting
might not be great in the in the courtroom. I
don't know how I would look. Remember when Brady had
the awful sketch the sketch artist the sketch artists started doing.
Remember the ugly Brady's sketch artist. I mean what I
don't want that guy if he made Tom Brady look
(34:02):
ugly in the courtroom sketch, I mean, what would he
do to me? I would be uh, I would I
would look I would look like the scariest human who's
ever existed. By the way, this could turn into a story.
Buck Trump has requested a day off to attend Baron
Trump's high school graduation, which is set in May.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Eighteen years old. I believe graduating from high school in May.
Six foot ten.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
By the way, too, have you seen that kid in
photos recently? Kids should be playing for the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Yeah, he could play the four or the five based
on his size. Certainly in high school he'd maybe the
greatest WNBA player of all time if he decided to
identify as a woman, but the court has not said
whether they will allow that, And if he can't go
to his son's high school graduation next month, then merchand
(34:54):
has said if Trump didn't show up that he would
arrest him. So Trump might get arrested for going to
his son's high school graduation based on the discussions that
are taking place in this courtroom right now. He has
not said whether he would grant Trump's ability to not
be in court that day. And so if Trump decided, hey,
(35:16):
you know what, I'm gonna go see my son graduate,
Merchant is saying he would arrest him at the graduation ceremonies.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
I mean, what are we doing here.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
You're gonna arrest a guy for going to his eighteen
year old senior son's graduation. You gotta arrest a guy
on the radio for saying that this is an affront
to American justice to be trying to put him into
prison in the first place. This is where absolutism leads.
You don't get more rational once you become an absolutist.
(35:50):
You like history, buck the French Revolution, They end up
guillotining themselves. Before all is done, Rose Pierre makes everybody
march there, and.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Then he ended up getting idiot safety man deciding who
gets their head chopped off behind closed doors all of
the revolution.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Of course, the notes bear got it himself, no surprise,
so we'll see. I'm not being arrested yet.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I'm gonna be in Atlanta tomorrow in case the Da
Bragg needs to arrest me there, and then I'm gonna
be out. I'm speaking at an event in Georgia, and
then I'm flying out for our friends at Hillsdale. I'll
be in Seattle, so if Alvin Bragg needs to arrest
me there, I don't want it to seem like I'm
fleeing OJ style all over the country. Go into Atlanta.
I'll be on the show from Atlanta tomorrow, and then
(36:32):
I'm going to Seattle to speak out there. So if
Alvin Bragg needs to arrest me, i will not be
at the house. There's no need to kick the door in,
there's no need to raid the Travis family home. I
will be in Atlanta and I'll be in Seattle.
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