April 17, 2024 • 37 mins
Dismissed juror says she's not a fan of Trump. Clay and Buck rank the seated Trump jurors so far based on limited data we have. Clay and Buck take calls. Sean Davis, CEO and co-founder of The Federalist, joins Clay and Buck to take a sledgehammer to what House Republicans are doing on Capitol Hill. Caller on Trump jurors. Video of shark off coast of Martha's Vineyard.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Third hour of Clay and Buck right now, and it
feels like morning in America. Highly unlikely that either Trump
or Clay going to prison because of Alvin Bragg.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
So that's a good day for the good guys.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I did like that Andy McCarthy said he'd come out
of retirement for me.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Buck. That's a that's an important ally to have. That's
big time. That's right. He would don.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
The the lawyer's robes. They don't wear robes on the
judges do. But you get what I'm saying. Once again,
he'd take out the leather briefcase and show up in
court to defend you. But yeah, I know it looks
like Clay's gonna be fine. Trump's going to be fine. Well,
let's focus in on the Trump thing for a second.
Not going to prison because of what happens in New York.
I thought maybe they could ran this thing through super
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fast and then try to do some period of house arrest.
I don't think they're going to send him a Rikers Island,
just because not because they're above it ethic, but because
they probably recognize that that is too far for the
purposes of the public's opinion on this right pretty widely.
I think that would be denounced as the police state nonsense.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
That it is.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
But it's tough to know with these lunatics. You know,
you always I used to say, you have to leave
room for crazy. You know, you'd never know. Alvin Bragg.
Andy made a great point. I'd forgotten about this, and
Alvin Bragg had previously dropped this case and the Feds
obviously the Feds abandoned it entirely, or never even took
it off. They just said, and this is a joke,
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this is a non case case. We don't care, it
doesn't matter. So with all of that, let's take a
look here at some of who is on this jury.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I will say Andy spent twenty years in the Southern
District of New York, and he was locking up bad guys.
You know, he worked the Blind Shake case as a prosecutor.
That was a big deal. The first World Trade Center bombing.
We always think so much about nine to eleven, understandably,
but I still remember when I was told on the
street by somebody, Hey, do you hear about what happened
at the World Trades.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
And I was a little kid.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
It was ninety three as no, and they tried to
take down that building with a truck bomb, if you remember,
they just didn't understand this structural engineering well enough to
put the truck bomb in the right place. And he
prosecuted the blind Shake who was involved in that, and
his co conspirators. But the point being here, they were
going after bad guys, and I think there was a
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clear understanding of what the mission was for the people
in the Southern District.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Of New York at that time. Now we're seeing this.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Repeating clown show of prosecutions in four different places of
Donald Trump, and the most absurd is the one in
New York City. You have these jurors. Now Andy has
faith Clay that there will be some He we've made
the point too, But I think it bears you only
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need one. You only need one person who would stand
to thwart the madness on that jury and say I'm
not going to be a part of this. But some
of the jurors who have gotten deep into the process,
or rather at least you get a sense of their
mindset in this process, it's a little bit unnerving. This
is a dismissed juror who told NBC News that in
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her mind she could be fair and impartial. But I
want you to hear what this person who told the
court she could be fair and impartial thinks of Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Play six.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Can you share your opinion of the former president and
why you felt that you could be unbiased?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I'm not a fan.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
During COVID nineteen, I looked with someone who was Muni
Hump biased, and I think he is handling of COVID
nineteen in this place, of this home. I also have
associated who's adopted from China, and the comments made about
China when who was ming for president made her very
anxious and therefore made me angry. Their policies he's supported
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it requires women and reductive health that I do.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Not agree with Clay. They should make this woman the
CEO of NPR.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I think she honestly sounds like about what every juror
I would expect to get in Manhattan would sound like
when asked, Okay, so here are the seven. I want
you to help me rank again, based on this limited data,
who we think are potentially in this seven maybe willing
to consider something other than a guilty verdict. In other words,
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this is a rig system. They're very strong likelihood that
you're going to get a very biased against Trump jury
compared to what a nationwide jury, for instance, would look like.
Here's the first jur This is the four person, and
I'm reading from the hill, a man who is originally
from Ireland now lives in West Harlem. He works in
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sales and gets his news from the New York Times,
the Daily Mail, Fox News and MSNBC. He will serve
as the four person. So I'm a little bit skeptical
here in general. First of all, the guys from Ireland
and lives in Harlem. I can't imagine there's that many
Irish people living in Harlem.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I'm just going to toss that out. Or you disagree, well,
there's not a lot.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
But I will say that Harlem, particularly what's kind of
known as Spanish Harlem, is a place that a lot
of young professionals have moved to that and who are
neither Hispanic nor Black, which is generally demographic of Harlem,
just because there's some beautiful old buildings there and the
rents are affordable. So you do get people, especially around
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on one hundred and twenty fifth Street down to ninety
sixth Street for our w R listeners. Good what I'm
talking about. You know, you can get a really nice
apartment up there for a third of what it costs
when you go south of ninety sixth Street.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Okay, so I'm just skeptical.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I don't think there's actually very many people who get
their news from Fox News and MSNBC. Like when I
see that, that to me is someone trying to claim
I'm completely unbiased.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
To be fair, I do watch MSNBC coverage on election
nights when Democrats are losing. Yeah, to be fair, it
is very entertaining. But yes, I see your point about
editorial lines.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
I'm not thinking that's probably a very favorable jurist for
Trump in general.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Second juror a woman who is.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
A native New Yorker and has been an oncology nurse
for fifteen years. She spends her free time with family
and friends, taking her dog to the park. There isn't
a lot here, obviously, cancer nurse effectively fifteen years. Doesn't
say that she's married or that she has kids, which
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makes me think that this is probably not a good
juror for Trump. I don't think that single women in
general are going in Manhattan are very open to believing
in Donald Trump. So I think that's a really bad
juror for him. Not it's not a good juror for him.
I would, I would, you know, I think there could
be worse. I mean, I think the woman that we
played the audio from where she was talking about her
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immunal compromise boyfriend or something like that's a definite conviction.
But anyway, who's next third jur young to middle aged
Asian man? That's a broad phrase, like would we be
young to middle aged or just middle aged? I don't
know where we would classify it, so sadly just middle aged,
but yeah, yeah, I know, so young to middle age
would be what like thirty five? I don't know a
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young to middle aged Asian man. This is a Hill descriptions.
By the way, the Hill dot com who lives in
Chelsea and grew up in Oregon. He is a corporate attorney.
I think that's I think that's a tough, tough putt
to set.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
That's an L. That's an L for the dominent right there.
That's an L for the Trumpster.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
For a juror, a middle aged man born in Puerto
Rico who's lived on the Lower East Side for more
than forty years. He told the court he has no
spare time for hobbies and is self employed. Wife is
a writer, and he has a kid that works in
sales and research.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I don't know that that's all fifty to fifty. Fifty
to fifty.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
You can because you can get a if he's a
Hispanic small business owner for example, self employed those self employed, right,
you know, this is somebody who may want law and order,
who may respect Trump's spraggadocio. That could go either way.
Speaker 6 (08:33):
For me.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, I think that's not a bad one. This one
I think may be the worst on the board for Trump.
Fifth juror a young black woman and Harlem native who
has taught English language and arts for eight years. She's
not never been married, has no kids, and said she
considers herself a creative at heart. That is a that's
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conviction that he is not. He is not going to
win that juror over in my opinion, I said that
she might be the worst. This one's not good for
Trump either. Sixth juror a Disney If I start with
a Disney employee, you're like, oh boy, a Disney employee
who was previously a student, three roommates, unmarried without kids.
(09:18):
A lot of unmarried women is bad for Trump. I'm
just gonna say, I don't think there's gonna be very
many many unmarried women that are all in. I think
that's bad. This guy, I was cautiously optimistic on maybe
seventh juror you would know better to the Manhattan aspect
of this. Lives on the Upper east Side. Rich that's
the best for Trump. Upper east Side, that's the reddest.
(09:40):
Keep going originally from North Carolina. I like that. That's
working decently. Civil litigator, married with two kids. Hmm, Okay,
he gets we got a little bit more info. Yeah,
gets his news from the New York Times, the Wall
(10:01):
Street Journal, the New York Post, and the Washington Post,
and said that he listens to podcasts SmartLess and car Talk.
This could be the guy who refuses to go along
and convict Trump. Now let me tell you what I'm
thinking here and again we are you want to talk
(10:21):
about reading the tea leaves we are taking. This is,
by the way, what the lawyers have to do. They
have to make their own reads based on this info.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Too sore.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
It's like we're doing our version of wa deer here
right like we're doing our own. I would say this
about that because the fact living on the Upper east Side,
just by the numbers, that's the most favorable Trump terrain
in all of Manhattan and outside of Staten Island. No Manhattan,
the Upper East Size says to you, what what does
that telling?
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Well, that's where I grew up. So the Upper east
Side you have, you know, you.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Have a traditional old school element of people that are
of if your right wing and you work on Wall
Street or in law or in medicine, you tend to
live on the Upper east Side in New York City.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
That's okay, that's a good the way it is.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
That's also very family oriented because a lot of the
top private schools and actually some excellent public schools as well,
are on the Upper east Side, so you get young families.
You know, it's also kind of separated. There's you know,
west of let's say, from Third Avenue West is outrageously expensive.
You go east, you actually have some of the more
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affordable for Manhattan, which is still not affordable, but some
of the more affordable housing options for working professionals, not
like low income housing, but for people that are you know,
trying to just make a living and make ends meet.
So you know, in the in the this is I
think a good data point. When Joe Loda ran against
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de Blasio, I think the only two like substantial. The
only place that went red in Manhattan was the Upper
east Side and the only borough that went in red
was that Island. So this is why I said, we've
got to get your trial. That's not going to happen.
Move to Stoton Island to.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Me hard talk.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
North Carolina admits that he reads the New York Post
that's all very favorable to Trump.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I mean it means that this guy, I don't think
this guy. My guess would be, and these are guesses, Okay,
we're very clear about that. Yeah, my guess would be
this guy isn't a huge Trump supporter, but lives in
reality and lives in reality to the extent where he'll
be able to parse through what's really going on here
and won't be a pushover in this system that you know,
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won't just go along with whatever brag and the prosecutors
tell him. He could be a lawyer who puts even
pronouns in his bio not because he believes in it,
but because a lot of law firms now, people feel
pressured to do that. And if you want to make
partner at some woke law firm, guess which is all
the biggest ones now? Some people go along with it,
and he may secretly resent that.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
A little bit.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
He may find that that whole You know, this could
be an opportunity for that we don't know his name
right to strike a blow for sanity. I may be
putting way too much faith in this person though not
having met him and not knowing very much about it.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
My one concern would be as a lawyer, everybody would
know if you're the guy who refuses to convict does
that destroy your career in New York Like? Irrespective of
what the facts of the case show, if you become
known as the guy who held out and refused to
convict Trump as a lawyer, that could have way more
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of an impact than this Hispanic Puerto Rican guy who
might be a small business owner where people are not
going to really react one way or the other. True,
and I think the Hispanic self employed guy is another
real possibility for a holdout against because clearly there's going
to be a number of people that want to convict Trump,
like we know that there's not going to be on
the shadow, but not yes him the best he's going
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to get as a hung jury, And yeah, I think
that's a big that's a big challenge. The only way
that I think he can get around it as somebody
who has so much principle that they would risk their career,
which is asking a lot. I know people say, oh,
I would do it. Yeah, it's tougher when you have
a wife and children and a mortgage to pay. Right,
that's right to actually take that risk, but it's also
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the opportunity to be a megastar superhero to the right.
You know what I mean when you think of the
calculations in a person's mind in that situation. So what
do you think are we? Are we reading the juror
pool right? Do you agree disagree with any of our assessments.
I would love to hear it from the eight hundred
two eight two two eight two. I'm a wasso going
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to talk to Sean Davis. Some of you been asking
what the heck is going on with Republicans on Capitol Hill.
Sean Davis is showing up with a sledgehammer. I'm telling
you he is very unhappy with this bill that is
ninety billion dollars, and it's a lot going overseas.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
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Speaker 1 (16:00):
We're going to be joined at the bottom of.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
The hour by our friend who runs the Federalist.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
He is going to be breaking down.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
I think that's going on on Capitol Hill right now.
Speaker 7 (16:13):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
And there are a lot of moving parts.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I saw Sean Friday at a Marsha Blackburn fundraiser in
Nashville at at John Rich's house.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Was a fun, fun set up. There a couple of calls.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Uh, just Chris and East hempste East Hampstead, New Hampshire.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
What you have to is it hampt Hampstead, Newmpshire? Sorry,
go ahead, Chris, yep yep.
Speaker 8 (16:36):
So I hope Trumps lawyers asked this Irish guy the
right questions about what he pays attention to in Ireland,
because the Irish Times is to the left of the
New York Times, and this is the same country that
puts jacobarra on a stamp. So Cinton O'Toole is like
like MSNBC and CNN are probably far right to him.
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So I mean.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
That I'm not optimistic that the Irish guy living in
Harror is going to be a big Trump guy.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Irish Ireland is like the Cuba of Western Europe. It
is a little communist island that is not very pro capitalism.
You want to take Steve real Quick or Steven Reading, Pennsylvania. Steve,
what have you got for us?
Speaker 7 (17:14):
Hey, I'm a gay white male in Reading, Pennsylvania. I'm
sixty seven years old. My partner is fifty five. We've
been in a relationship for thirty two years. We've been
married for two years. Hey, listen to you regularly, so
does he, and I've never heard you say anything anti
gay about anybody.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Thank you, It's true.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
I mean, there isn't thank you for the call, thank
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Speaker 2 (18:58):
We will take you up to Capitol Hill for a
moment here and the Shenanigans involving Republican leadership in the House.
Our friend Sewn Davis joins us now. He is the
co founder and CEO of the Federalists. Great work being
done at the Federalist dot Com day in and day out. Sean,
thanks for being here.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
With us, thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
So tell everybody what's going on, because there's there's this
noise about Marjorie Taylor Green wanting to replace Johnson. Wait,
did Johnson do something? There's money going overseas ninety billion?
What has happened? First, before we dive too far into
what the heck is next, So.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
Let's back up. You know, Kevin McCarthy was deposed, they
had a motion of ak removed him. They put in
Mike Johnson, I think late October, early November. Mike Johnson
looked good from the outset, said all the right things,
seemed to believe all the right things. But specifically, he
made a number of claims and promises, foremost of which
was he was not going to be moving money overseas
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for Ukraine or anyone else until our own border was secured.
Those were his words. That was an ironclad, obvious, explicit commitment.
And instead we are in a position right now where
he is attempting to force through the house under threat
of emotion, to vacate from Arjorie Taylor Green, which is
pending a massive, massive, overseas aid bill something like one
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hundred million dollars for Ukraine, a bunch of money in Israel,
a bunch of money throughout throughout Asia, and not a
dime for the border. And so what's happening is there
is chaos, in disunity and all kinds of rancor in
the House right now surrounding this. And it is all
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because Mike Johnson, for reasons I simply do not understand,
refuses to honor his pledge and his promise to fix
and fund border security before throwing another one hundred million
dollars at a non American can problem overseas.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
So where does this all go?
Speaker 3 (21:03):
I mean, effectively, are we just going to be waiting
until November to see and Sean, it's good to talk
with you. Good to see you on Friday at the
Marshall Blackburn event, and keep up the good work as
I said, then, but where does this all go? Are
we just waiting till November to see who's going to
have control of the House until then? Does it matter
a great deal who the speaker is?
Speaker 6 (21:25):
Well, right now we Democrats control the House right now.
If you look at which bills have passed over the
last six months or so, right, I think all but
one has been passed with the majority of Democrat votes,
not with the majority of Republican votes. So right now
Democrats are controlling the House. They're calling the shots. Democrats
are controlling the Senate. So the question we have is
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can we get to November without completely shooting ourselves in
the foot and give Republican voters a reason to actually
vote for Republicans and take back our country because looking
at it right now, you look what Republicans are doing
in Washington. They have the majority now, albeit it's a
slim one. They have the majority. They have the numbers
they can actually bring Biden and Schumer over in the
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Senate to heal and yet they refuse to do so
again for reasons I simply do not understand. So from
my perspective, the challenge for November is getting there without
actually losing the majority, which we've been steadily losing for
the last six months. I think it's now down to
two seats, but actually getting to November with a reason
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for Republican voters to vote for Republicans, because I'll tell
you right now, looking at what they're doing in Washington,
I'm having a tough time coming up with a good
reason to vote for Republicans in the House when all
they do is past Democrat bills.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah, and Sean, I just have to wonder how many
times we're supposed to go through this.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Cycle.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
And look, it's some people in both Congress and in
the media do this whole all we need if we
have a new leader, everything will be fine. We talked
about this when when there was the push to get
rid of McCarthy. It's like, okay, but is everything going
to change? Is everything going to be fine? Or is
this just now, you know, groundhog Day for us? I mean,
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what do you think the posture should be of Republicans
in the House between now and the election so that
we don't lose the majority, which is really about as
then as it could possibly be already.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
I think the job of the House right now is
to block nonsense from Joe Biden and to force Democrats
to take votes they don't want to take so that
we can maybe hopefully secure our border and fix the
damage that's been done to the country. So stop the
nonsense Beinen is doing. Forced Democrats to take bad votes.
Congressional Republican leadership is doing the opposite. They're like running
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away from trying to make Democrats take tough votes. Why
on earth do they not make Democrats just vote up
or down on Israel and secure US border. That to
me is the easiest thing in the world, and yet
Republican leaders are doing everything they can to make it
as difficult and pointless as possible. And honestly, I think
the big problem is we have no leadership in Washington, DC.
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We actually have no representation is normal voters, people who
spend six seven months a year working just to fund
the government. We have no one in Washington who seems
to care about the things that are bothering us every day.
Gas prices, how groceries are unaffordable, how roads and bridges
are broken. All the things that we used to take
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for granted, which are just basic kind of daily necessities
of life, are completely unaffordable. And what people in Washington,
what Republican leaders are focusing on, is not fixing those problems,
but in sending more money to Ukraine. So I personally
think we need a complete wholesale cleaning of the House
of Leadership, and we actually need to put people in
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there who are true leaders, who care about the country
more than they care about what the established.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Joh, how do they explain ninety five billion dollars in
this appropriate House Appropriations Committee going overseas and not as
I understand it, and please correct me if I'm wrong,
not a dollar going for the border? How can they
make that calculation and not expect people to just say,
what are you doing?
Speaker 6 (25:10):
I don't think they care. I truly don't think they can.
I don't know if it's something that's in the water.
I mean Mike Johnson, for example, This guy had a
press conference where he straight up said we're not doing
this nonsense until we fix the border, and then he's
gone and apparently forgotten he ever said that, because you'll
notice none of his lieutenants or him ever actually try
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to explain their way around it. They just want you
to forget they ever made the bletch. And I think
people in Washington, I think they just don't care. I
think they've drunk the kool aid when it comes to
Ukraine or Russia or whatever, and they have decided, again
for reasons to elude me, that a regional war between
Russia and Ukraine that doesn't involve US is the literal
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most important thing happening in the world today, and if
you're upset about gas prices or or your streets falling apart,
or the border being non existent, it's only because you're
a tool.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Of Pootin Sean, I don't know if you've got a
strong take on this, but there's also talk that somehow
this border bill could also include TikTok, And we know
that the Senate moved aggressively on TikTok, and the House
has to kind of figure out what to do.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
What do you think should happen with TikTok?
Speaker 6 (26:24):
I think TikTok should be banned. I'm not really down
with the whole divesting thing. It looks it looks a
little too much like the intel surveillance state just wants
to make sure it's buddies, it's Facebook or Google have
control of this massive surveillance tool, so that then they
can use it against their own people a lot more
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than they care about blocking China. So I think, you know,
it's a tool of a communist government. Of course it
shouldn't exist here anymore than we would have been cool
with importing a bunch of radios from the Soviet Union
in nineteen sixty that we knew they were listening in
on during the midi of the Cold War. If somebody
had proposed that in nineteen fifty or nineteen sixty, they
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were to look at you like you were a crazy person. Yeah, well,
of course we should have Soviet radios with lifting devices
in their homes in the middle of the Cold War.
So I think TikTok should be banned. But I also
have pretty serious concerns about a government picking and choosing
which websites are allowed to exist in this country. So
while I think TikTok should be banned, that bill that
they were pushing was an awful bill. It was poorly written,
(27:28):
it was poorly reasoned. It had terrible downstream effects and
unintended consequences. I think the bill was a disaster. But
as far as allowing Chinese surveillance and spy tools to
be in our pockets walking around with us, I think
that's insanity.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
No doubt. Sean.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Look forward to seeing you again sometime soon in the
great State of Tennessee. Keep up the good work and
appreciate you being flexible.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
Today y'all are crushing it.
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Keep it up.
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Thank you for having me on.
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Buck and I were breaking down the seven jurors that
have been seated so far and trying to analyze them
based on the info that is public.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
What was your take on that?
Speaker 6 (30:53):
I actually I was going to give you some over
unders of that on all right.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Give it?
Speaker 3 (30:57):
What do you got for me? I'll I'll try to
take some take some sides here.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
I'm gonna set at one and a half the over
under how many of them will have that goofy nose.
Speaker 7 (31:06):
Piercing like the bulls I'm gonna.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Also set at one and a half, how many of
them are gonna have over the top crazy colored hair, Yeah,
and then at and then at point five, how many
of them are going to.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
Display the lgbtq AI plus colors? Constantly?
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Thank you for the call.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
The seven jurors, Buck, I think you and I agreed,
and I think this is such a fun thing, trying
to pick a jury based on what is relatively limited knowledge.
I think you and I agreed that just based off
the way that these guys and gals were described, that
there were basically two jurors, A middle aged man from
(31:48):
Puerto Rico who's lived on the Lower East Side forty years,
no spare time because he's working so much, so he's
self employed, and he's married and he has a kid.
And then we thought maybe the juror who is from
North Carolina, a lawyer with two kids, who admitted to
reading the Wall Street Journal of the New York Post
(32:10):
and listening to car Talk podcast. If I were analyzing,
I would say, you probably want men. Certainly you want
I think if you were saying what you don't want,
you don't want single women without kids. I think those
are probably the people who dislike Trump the most in Manhattan.
So I would say the two married guys with kids
are the best options that Trump would have in most
(32:32):
seven you agree with that in general, that that's the
best take.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
And I think that it is going to come down
to one or it's going to be a conviction. I
think there'll be one hole out for a hung jury
or there'll be a conviction. I don't see it going
any other way, which is a shame, but that's where
things are. I did manage to find for you the
video that's circulating. I think it's new of a twenty.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
You should tell people off air we were talking about
great white sharks. This is as you never have any
idea what the off air and sometimes they sound very
similar to the on air conversations. But you said, oh
my god, have you seen this video that you sent
me of the shark off Martha's vineyard. Twenty five to
thirty feet great white, five thousand pounds. This shark video
(33:24):
is not like way under the water. You can see
the fin that is out of the water. I mean,
this is a monstrous animal. Can you imagine coming into
this is basically the jaws size great white shark.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Yeah, I mean, I think Jaws, the mechanical Jaws would
have been about a twenty footer. And there are great whites.
I think Deep Blue is the biggest great white ever
seen in the is ever seen as a name for it,
and he usually is off the coast of Hawaii's where
they've seen it, and that goes over twenty feet. But yeah,
a five thousand pounds great white shark they estimate off
(33:58):
of Martha's Vineyard. And I'm just saying, before I go
to the beach, you know, sharks man, you gotta keep
an eye out. You know, I'm always the chance of
being eaten by a shark is less than a chance
of being struck by lightning. And yet, ever since watching
that movie, which you know, in part was filmed in
Martha's Vineyard, there are a few iconic scenes in Jaws,
(34:21):
which is supposed to take place in the fictional Amity. Yeah,
but it really is filmed largely in Martha's Vineyard. And
I've been to some of the sites. I was like,
that looks familiar, and it's oh, yeah, it actually is
where they film this part of Jaws.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
I would argue, and this would be a fun debate
sometime that Jaws is the most influential movie that's ever
been made. And some of you out there are rolling
your eyes. When I say most influential movie that's ever
been made, I mean a a fictional movie, right.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
There have been other movies.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
You could probably talk to some of the Lenny Reef
install crazy videos that she made for the Nazis, things
like that, historical films. I'm talking about a fictional film.
I think Jaws has influenced people's life more than any
other movie that's ever been made, because every time you
go in the ocean, you think about getting eaten by
a shark if you've seen Jaws.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
And I know it's late and I'm about to go
on vacation for a few days, so maybe that's why
this is turning into like a bro podcast over here.
But it's also amazing to me that as fearsome and
large as great white sharks are, orca the killer whale
can make absolute mincemeat of any great white shark, and
yet there has never once been in the wild a
killer whale attack on a human being?
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Isn't that there are killer whales here where I am
in Seattle?
Speaker 4 (35:36):
Right?
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Can't you occasionally see them like just off the coast. Yes,
they're I mean they're dolphins, not whales. They're giant dolphins effectively,
so they're as smart as dolphins, which people don't often
really think about.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
We did the killer whale enclosure at SeaWorld, which I
think is super like they did the whole movie about that.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
It got all controversial, black fin or something. I think
that's right.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
And when after SeaWorld in a big way, I don't
know anything about the health of the sea worlds, of
the of the the animals there at SeaWorld. I think it.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Elephant just got loose. By the way you see this too,
I think an elephant just got loose.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
I'm serious.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Do you guys check this out before we I think
an elephant in Montana at a circus. Yes, I just
saw a full on elephant loose from the circus in
some town in Montana running around in the streets. True
king of the land animals. Elephant not even close nothing
even You.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Could have a grizzly bear elephant interaction in Montana, which
is like every kid's dream.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Elephant would absolutely destroy it would crush the grizzly bear
like a Bug wouldn't even be close.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Battle.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Bood, rest your weekend. Have a good rest of your weekend.
I'll try to stay out of prison when you come
back on Monday.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Third hour of Clay and Buck right now, and it
feels like morning in America. Highly unlikely that either Trump
or Clay going to prison because of Alvin Bragg.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
So that's a good day for the good guys.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I did like that Andy McCarthy said he'd come out
of retirement for me.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Buck. That's a that's an important ally to have. That's
big time. That's right. He would don.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
The the lawyer's robes. They don't wear robes on the
judges do. But you get what I'm saying. Once again,
he'd take out the leather briefcase and show up in
court to defend you. But yeah, I know it looks
like Clay's gonna be fine. Trump's going to be fine. Well,
let's focus in on the Trump thing for a second.
Not going to prison because of what happens in New York.
I thought maybe they could ran this thing through super
(00:52):
fast and then try to do some period of house arrest.
I don't think they're going to send him a Rikers Island,
just because not because they're above it ethic, but because
they probably recognize that that is too far for the
purposes of the public's opinion on this right pretty widely.
I think that would be denounced as the police state nonsense.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
That it is.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
But it's tough to know with these lunatics. You know,
you always I used to say, you have to leave
room for crazy. You know, you'd never know. Alvin Bragg.
Andy made a great point. I'd forgotten about this, and
Alvin Bragg had previously dropped this case and the Feds
obviously the Feds abandoned it entirely, or never even took
it off. They just said, and this is a joke,
(01:37):
this is a non case case. We don't care, it
doesn't matter. So with all of that, let's take a
look here at some of who is on this jury.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I will say Andy spent twenty years in the Southern
District of New York, and he was locking up bad guys.
You know, he worked the Blind Shake case as a prosecutor.
That was a big deal. The first World Trade Center bombing.
We always think so much about nine to eleven, understandably,
but I still remember when I was told on the
street by somebody, Hey, do you hear about what happened
at the World Trades.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
And I was a little kid.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
It was ninety three as no, and they tried to
take down that building with a truck bomb, if you remember,
they just didn't understand this structural engineering well enough to
put the truck bomb in the right place. And he
prosecuted the blind Shake who was involved in that, and
his co conspirators. But the point being here, they were
going after bad guys, and I think there was a
(02:31):
clear understanding of what the mission was for the people
in the Southern District.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Of New York at that time. Now we're seeing this.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Repeating clown show of prosecutions in four different places of
Donald Trump, and the most absurd is the one in
New York City. You have these jurors. Now Andy has
faith Clay that there will be some He we've made
the point too, But I think it bears you only
(03:01):
need one. You only need one person who would stand
to thwart the madness on that jury and say I'm
not going to be a part of this. But some
of the jurors who have gotten deep into the process,
or rather at least you get a sense of their
mindset in this process, it's a little bit unnerving. This
is a dismissed juror who told NBC News that in
(03:26):
her mind she could be fair and impartial. But I
want you to hear what this person who told the
court she could be fair and impartial thinks of Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Play six.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Can you share your opinion of the former president and
why you felt that you could be unbiased?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I'm not a fan.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
During COVID nineteen, I looked with someone who was Muni
Hump biased, and I think he is handling of COVID
nineteen in this place, of this home. I also have
associated who's adopted from China, and the comments made about
China when who was ming for president made her very
anxious and therefore made me angry. Their policies he's supported
(04:12):
it requires women and reductive health that I do.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Not agree with Clay. They should make this woman the
CEO of NPR.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I think she honestly sounds like about what every juror
I would expect to get in Manhattan would sound like
when asked, Okay, so here are the seven. I want
you to help me rank again, based on this limited data,
who we think are potentially in this seven maybe willing
to consider something other than a guilty verdict. In other words,
(04:45):
this is a rig system. They're very strong likelihood that
you're going to get a very biased against Trump jury
compared to what a nationwide jury, for instance, would look like.
Here's the first jur This is the four person, and
I'm reading from the hill, a man who is originally
from Ireland now lives in West Harlem. He works in
(05:08):
sales and gets his news from the New York Times,
the Daily Mail, Fox News and MSNBC. He will serve
as the four person. So I'm a little bit skeptical
here in general. First of all, the guys from Ireland
and lives in Harlem. I can't imagine there's that many
Irish people living in Harlem.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I'm just going to toss that out. Or you disagree, well,
there's not a lot.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
But I will say that Harlem, particularly what's kind of
known as Spanish Harlem, is a place that a lot
of young professionals have moved to that and who are
neither Hispanic nor Black, which is generally demographic of Harlem,
just because there's some beautiful old buildings there and the
rents are affordable. So you do get people, especially around
(05:52):
on one hundred and twenty fifth Street down to ninety
sixth Street for our w R listeners. Good what I'm
talking about. You know, you can get a really nice
apartment up there for a third of what it costs
when you go south of ninety sixth Street.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Okay, so I'm just skeptical.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I don't think there's actually very many people who get
their news from Fox News and MSNBC. Like when I
see that, that to me is someone trying to claim
I'm completely unbiased.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
To be fair, I do watch MSNBC coverage on election
nights when Democrats are losing. Yeah, to be fair, it
is very entertaining. But yes, I see your point about
editorial lines.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
I'm not thinking that's probably a very favorable jurist for
Trump in general.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Second juror a woman who is.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
A native New Yorker and has been an oncology nurse
for fifteen years. She spends her free time with family
and friends, taking her dog to the park. There isn't
a lot here, obviously, cancer nurse effectively fifteen years. Doesn't
say that she's married or that she has kids, which
(06:58):
makes me think that this is probably not a good
juror for Trump. I don't think that single women in
general are going in Manhattan are very open to believing
in Donald Trump. So I think that's a really bad
juror for him. Not it's not a good juror for him.
I would, I would, you know, I think there could
be worse. I mean, I think the woman that we
played the audio from where she was talking about her
(07:18):
immunal compromise boyfriend or something like that's a definite conviction.
But anyway, who's next third jur young to middle aged
Asian man? That's a broad phrase, like would we be
young to middle aged or just middle aged? I don't
know where we would classify it, so sadly just middle aged,
but yeah, yeah, I know, so young to middle age
would be what like thirty five? I don't know a
(07:38):
young to middle aged Asian man. This is a Hill descriptions.
By the way, the Hill dot com who lives in
Chelsea and grew up in Oregon. He is a corporate attorney.
I think that's I think that's a tough, tough putt
to set.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
That's an L. That's an L for the dominent right there.
That's an L for the Trumpster.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
For a juror, a middle aged man born in Puerto
Rico who's lived on the Lower East Side for more
than forty years. He told the court he has no
spare time for hobbies and is self employed. Wife is
a writer, and he has a kid that works in
sales and research.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I don't know that that's all fifty to fifty. Fifty
to fifty.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
You can because you can get a if he's a
Hispanic small business owner for example, self employed those self employed, right,
you know, this is somebody who may want law and order,
who may respect Trump's spraggadocio. That could go either way.
Speaker 6 (08:33):
For me.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, I think that's not a bad one. This one
I think may be the worst on the board for Trump.
Fifth juror a young black woman and Harlem native who
has taught English language and arts for eight years. She's
not never been married, has no kids, and said she
considers herself a creative at heart. That is a that's
(08:54):
conviction that he is not. He is not going to
win that juror over in my opinion, I said that
she might be the worst. This one's not good for
Trump either. Sixth juror a Disney If I start with
a Disney employee, you're like, oh boy, a Disney employee
who was previously a student, three roommates, unmarried without kids.
(09:18):
A lot of unmarried women is bad for Trump. I'm
just gonna say, I don't think there's gonna be very
many many unmarried women that are all in. I think
that's bad. This guy, I was cautiously optimistic on maybe
seventh juror you would know better to the Manhattan aspect
of this. Lives on the Upper east Side. Rich that's
the best for Trump. Upper east Side, that's the reddest.
(09:40):
Keep going originally from North Carolina. I like that. That's
working decently. Civil litigator, married with two kids. Hmm, Okay,
he gets we got a little bit more info. Yeah,
gets his news from the New York Times, the Wall
(10:01):
Street Journal, the New York Post, and the Washington Post,
and said that he listens to podcasts SmartLess and car Talk.
This could be the guy who refuses to go along
and convict Trump. Now let me tell you what I'm
thinking here and again we are you want to talk
(10:21):
about reading the tea leaves we are taking. This is,
by the way, what the lawyers have to do. They
have to make their own reads based on this info.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Too sore.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
It's like we're doing our version of wa deer here
right like we're doing our own. I would say this
about that because the fact living on the Upper east Side,
just by the numbers, that's the most favorable Trump terrain
in all of Manhattan and outside of Staten Island. No Manhattan,
the Upper East Size says to you, what what does
that telling?
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Well, that's where I grew up. So the Upper east
Side you have, you know, you.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Have a traditional old school element of people that are
of if your right wing and you work on Wall
Street or in law or in medicine, you tend to
live on the Upper east Side in New York City.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
That's okay, that's a good the way it is.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
That's also very family oriented because a lot of the
top private schools and actually some excellent public schools as well,
are on the Upper east Side, so you get young families.
You know, it's also kind of separated. There's you know,
west of let's say, from Third Avenue West is outrageously expensive.
You go east, you actually have some of the more
(11:28):
affordable for Manhattan, which is still not affordable, but some
of the more affordable housing options for working professionals, not
like low income housing, but for people that are you know,
trying to just make a living and make ends meet.
So you know, in the in the this is I
think a good data point. When Joe Loda ran against
(11:49):
de Blasio, I think the only two like substantial. The
only place that went red in Manhattan was the Upper
east Side and the only borough that went in red
was that Island. So this is why I said, we've
got to get your trial. That's not going to happen.
Move to Stoton Island to.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Me hard talk.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
North Carolina admits that he reads the New York Post
that's all very favorable to Trump.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I mean it means that this guy, I don't think
this guy. My guess would be, and these are guesses, Okay,
we're very clear about that. Yeah, my guess would be
this guy isn't a huge Trump supporter, but lives in
reality and lives in reality to the extent where he'll
be able to parse through what's really going on here
and won't be a pushover in this system that you know,
(12:34):
won't just go along with whatever brag and the prosecutors
tell him. He could be a lawyer who puts even
pronouns in his bio not because he believes in it,
but because a lot of law firms now, people feel
pressured to do that. And if you want to make
partner at some woke law firm, guess which is all
the biggest ones now? Some people go along with it,
and he may secretly resent that.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
A little bit.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
He may find that that whole You know, this could
be an opportunity for that we don't know his name
right to strike a blow for sanity. I may be
putting way too much faith in this person though not
having met him and not knowing very much about it.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
My one concern would be as a lawyer, everybody would
know if you're the guy who refuses to convict does
that destroy your career in New York Like? Irrespective of
what the facts of the case show, if you become
known as the guy who held out and refused to
convict Trump as a lawyer, that could have way more
(13:30):
of an impact than this Hispanic Puerto Rican guy who
might be a small business owner where people are not
going to really react one way or the other. True,
and I think the Hispanic self employed guy is another
real possibility for a holdout against because clearly there's going
to be a number of people that want to convict Trump,
like we know that there's not going to be on
the shadow, but not yes him the best he's going
(13:51):
to get as a hung jury, And yeah, I think
that's a big that's a big challenge. The only way
that I think he can get around it as somebody
who has so much principle that they would risk their career,
which is asking a lot. I know people say, oh,
I would do it. Yeah, it's tougher when you have
a wife and children and a mortgage to pay. Right,
that's right to actually take that risk, but it's also
(14:12):
the opportunity to be a megastar superhero to the right.
You know what I mean when you think of the
calculations in a person's mind in that situation. So what
do you think are we? Are we reading the juror
pool right? Do you agree disagree with any of our assessments.
I would love to hear it from the eight hundred
two eight two two eight two. I'm a wasso going
(14:33):
to talk to Sean Davis. Some of you been asking
what the heck is going on with Republicans on Capitol Hill.
Sean Davis is showing up with a sledgehammer. I'm telling
you he is very unhappy with this bill that is
ninety billion dollars, and it's a lot going overseas.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
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Speaker 1 (16:00):
We're going to be joined at the bottom of.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
The hour by our friend who runs the Federalist.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
He is going to be breaking down.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
I think that's going on on Capitol Hill right now.
Speaker 7 (16:13):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
And there are a lot of moving parts.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I saw Sean Friday at a Marsha Blackburn fundraiser in
Nashville at at John Rich's house.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Was a fun, fun set up. There a couple of calls.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Uh, just Chris and East hempste East Hampstead, New Hampshire.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
What you have to is it hampt Hampstead, Newmpshire? Sorry,
go ahead, Chris, yep yep.
Speaker 8 (16:36):
So I hope Trumps lawyers asked this Irish guy the
right questions about what he pays attention to in Ireland,
because the Irish Times is to the left of the
New York Times, and this is the same country that
puts jacobarra on a stamp. So Cinton O'Toole is like
like MSNBC and CNN are probably far right to him.
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So I mean.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
That I'm not optimistic that the Irish guy living in
Harror is going to be a big Trump guy.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Irish Ireland is like the Cuba of Western Europe. It
is a little communist island that is not very pro capitalism.
You want to take Steve real Quick or Steven Reading, Pennsylvania. Steve,
what have you got for us?
Speaker 7 (17:14):
Hey, I'm a gay white male in Reading, Pennsylvania. I'm
sixty seven years old. My partner is fifty five. We've
been in a relationship for thirty two years. We've been
married for two years. Hey, listen to you regularly, so
does he, and I've never heard you say anything anti
gay about anybody.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Thank you, It's true.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
I mean, there isn't thank you for the call, thank
you for listening. It's because there isn't any but you
hit on it.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Buck.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
As soon as I say, like, hey, I don't think
men pretending to be women should be able to play sports,
they take that as an anti gay slur in some way,
even though it's just supporting fairness basically in sports. I mean,
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Speaker 2 (18:58):
We will take you up to Capitol Hill for a
moment here and the Shenanigans involving Republican leadership in the House.
Our friend Sewn Davis joins us now. He is the
co founder and CEO of the Federalists. Great work being
done at the Federalist dot Com day in and day out. Sean,
thanks for being here.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
With us, thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
So tell everybody what's going on, because there's there's this
noise about Marjorie Taylor Green wanting to replace Johnson. Wait,
did Johnson do something? There's money going overseas ninety billion?
What has happened? First, before we dive too far into
what the heck is next, So.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
Let's back up. You know, Kevin McCarthy was deposed, they
had a motion of ak removed him. They put in
Mike Johnson, I think late October, early November. Mike Johnson
looked good from the outset, said all the right things,
seemed to believe all the right things. But specifically, he
made a number of claims and promises, foremost of which
was he was not going to be moving money overseas
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for Ukraine or anyone else until our own border was secured.
Those were his words. That was an ironclad, obvious, explicit commitment.
And instead we are in a position right now where
he is attempting to force through the house under threat
of emotion, to vacate from Arjorie Taylor Green, which is
pending a massive, massive, overseas aid bill something like one
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hundred million dollars for Ukraine, a bunch of money in Israel,
a bunch of money throughout throughout Asia, and not a
dime for the border. And so what's happening is there
is chaos, in disunity and all kinds of rancor in
the House right now surrounding this. And it is all
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because Mike Johnson, for reasons I simply do not understand,
refuses to honor his pledge and his promise to fix
and fund border security before throwing another one hundred million
dollars at a non American can problem overseas.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
So where does this all go?
Speaker 3 (21:03):
I mean, effectively, are we just going to be waiting
until November to see and Sean, it's good to talk
with you. Good to see you on Friday at the
Marshall Blackburn event, and keep up the good work as
I said, then, but where does this all go? Are
we just waiting till November to see who's going to
have control of the House until then? Does it matter
a great deal who the speaker is?
Speaker 6 (21:25):
Well, right now we Democrats control the House right now.
If you look at which bills have passed over the
last six months or so, right, I think all but
one has been passed with the majority of Democrat votes,
not with the majority of Republican votes. So right now
Democrats are controlling the House. They're calling the shots. Democrats
are controlling the Senate. So the question we have is
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can we get to November without completely shooting ourselves in
the foot and give Republican voters a reason to actually
vote for Republicans and take back our country because looking
at it right now, you look what Republicans are doing
in Washington. They have the majority now, albeit it's a
slim one. They have the majority. They have the numbers
they can actually bring Biden and Schumer over in the
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Senate to heal and yet they refuse to do so
again for reasons I simply do not understand. So from
my perspective, the challenge for November is getting there without
actually losing the majority, which we've been steadily losing for
the last six months. I think it's now down to
two seats, but actually getting to November with a reason
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for Republican voters to vote for Republicans, because I'll tell
you right now, looking at what they're doing in Washington,
I'm having a tough time coming up with a good
reason to vote for Republicans in the House when all
they do is past Democrat bills.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah, and Sean, I just have to wonder how many
times we're supposed to go through this.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Cycle.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
And look, it's some people in both Congress and in
the media do this whole all we need if we
have a new leader, everything will be fine. We talked
about this when when there was the push to get
rid of McCarthy. It's like, okay, but is everything going
to change? Is everything going to be fine? Or is
this just now, you know, groundhog Day for us? I mean,
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what do you think the posture should be of Republicans
in the House between now and the election so that
we don't lose the majority, which is really about as
then as it could possibly be already.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
I think the job of the House right now is
to block nonsense from Joe Biden and to force Democrats
to take votes they don't want to take so that
we can maybe hopefully secure our border and fix the
damage that's been done to the country. So stop the
nonsense Beinen is doing. Forced Democrats to take bad votes.
Congressional Republican leadership is doing the opposite. They're like running
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away from trying to make Democrats take tough votes. Why
on earth do they not make Democrats just vote up
or down on Israel and secure US border. That to
me is the easiest thing in the world, and yet
Republican leaders are doing everything they can to make it
as difficult and pointless as possible. And honestly, I think
the big problem is we have no leadership in Washington, DC.
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We actually have no representation is normal voters, people who
spend six seven months a year working just to fund
the government. We have no one in Washington who seems
to care about the things that are bothering us every day.
Gas prices, how groceries are unaffordable, how roads and bridges
are broken. All the things that we used to take
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for granted, which are just basic kind of daily necessities
of life, are completely unaffordable. And what people in Washington,
what Republican leaders are focusing on, is not fixing those problems,
but in sending more money to Ukraine. So I personally
think we need a complete wholesale cleaning of the House
of Leadership, and we actually need to put people in
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there who are true leaders, who care about the country
more than they care about what the established.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Joh, how do they explain ninety five billion dollars in
this appropriate House Appropriations Committee going overseas and not as
I understand it, and please correct me if I'm wrong,
not a dollar going for the border? How can they
make that calculation and not expect people to just say,
what are you doing?
Speaker 6 (25:10):
I don't think they care. I truly don't think they can.
I don't know if it's something that's in the water.
I mean Mike Johnson, for example, This guy had a
press conference where he straight up said we're not doing
this nonsense until we fix the border, and then he's
gone and apparently forgotten he ever said that, because you'll
notice none of his lieutenants or him ever actually try
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to explain their way around it. They just want you
to forget they ever made the bletch. And I think
people in Washington, I think they just don't care. I
think they've drunk the kool aid when it comes to
Ukraine or Russia or whatever, and they have decided, again
for reasons to elude me, that a regional war between
Russia and Ukraine that doesn't involve US is the literal
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most important thing happening in the world today, and if
you're upset about gas prices or or your streets falling apart,
or the border being non existent, it's only because you're
a tool.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Of Pootin Sean, I don't know if you've got a
strong take on this, but there's also talk that somehow
this border bill could also include TikTok, And we know
that the Senate moved aggressively on TikTok, and the House
has to kind of figure out what to do.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
What do you think should happen with TikTok?
Speaker 6 (26:24):
I think TikTok should be banned. I'm not really down
with the whole divesting thing. It looks it looks a
little too much like the intel surveillance state just wants
to make sure it's buddies, it's Facebook or Google have
control of this massive surveillance tool, so that then they
can use it against their own people a lot more
(26:44):
than they care about blocking China. So I think, you know,
it's a tool of a communist government. Of course it
shouldn't exist here anymore than we would have been cool
with importing a bunch of radios from the Soviet Union
in nineteen sixty that we knew they were listening in
on during the midi of the Cold War. If somebody
had proposed that in nineteen fifty or nineteen sixty, they
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were to look at you like you were a crazy person. Yeah, well,
of course we should have Soviet radios with lifting devices
in their homes in the middle of the Cold War.
So I think TikTok should be banned. But I also
have pretty serious concerns about a government picking and choosing
which websites are allowed to exist in this country. So
while I think TikTok should be banned, that bill that
they were pushing was an awful bill. It was poorly written,
(27:28):
it was poorly reasoned. It had terrible downstream effects and
unintended consequences. I think the bill was a disaster. But
as far as allowing Chinese surveillance and spy tools to
be in our pockets walking around with us, I think
that's insanity.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
No doubt. Sean.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Look forward to seeing you again sometime soon in the
great State of Tennessee. Keep up the good work and
appreciate you being flexible.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
Today y'all are crushing it.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Keep it up.
Speaker 6 (27:52):
Thank you for having me on.
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Should be a fun event. Buck, you are out for
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truly would John and Milwaukee. You had a question when
Buck and I were breaking down the seven jurors that
have been seated so far and trying to analyze them
based on the info that is public.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
What was your take on that?
Speaker 6 (30:53):
I actually I was going to give you some over
unders of that on all right.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Give it?
Speaker 3 (30:57):
What do you got for me? I'll I'll try to
take some take some sides here.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
I'm gonna set at one and a half the over
under how many of them will have that goofy nose.
Speaker 7 (31:06):
Piercing like the bulls I'm gonna.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Also set at one and a half, how many of
them are gonna have over the top crazy colored hair, Yeah,
and then at and then at point five, how many
of them are going to.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
Display the lgbtq AI plus colors? Constantly?
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Thank you for the call.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
The seven jurors, Buck, I think you and I agreed,
and I think this is such a fun thing, trying
to pick a jury based on what is relatively limited knowledge.
I think you and I agreed that just based off
the way that these guys and gals were described, that
there were basically two jurors, A middle aged man from
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Puerto Rico who's lived on the Lower East Side forty years,
no spare time because he's working so much, so he's
self employed, and he's married and he has a kid.
And then we thought maybe the juror who is from
North Carolina, a lawyer with two kids, who admitted to
reading the Wall Street Journal of the New York Post
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and listening to car Talk podcast. If I were analyzing,
I would say, you probably want men. Certainly you want
I think if you were saying what you don't want,
you don't want single women without kids. I think those
are probably the people who dislike Trump the most in Manhattan.
So I would say the two married guys with kids
are the best options that Trump would have in most
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seven you agree with that in general, that that's the
best take.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
And I think that it is going to come down
to one or it's going to be a conviction. I
think there'll be one hole out for a hung jury
or there'll be a conviction. I don't see it going
any other way, which is a shame, but that's where
things are. I did manage to find for you the
video that's circulating. I think it's new of a twenty.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
You should tell people off air we were talking about
great white sharks. This is as you never have any
idea what the off air and sometimes they sound very
similar to the on air conversations. But you said, oh
my god, have you seen this video that you sent
me of the shark off Martha's vineyard. Twenty five to
thirty feet great white, five thousand pounds. This shark video
(33:24):
is not like way under the water. You can see
the fin that is out of the water. I mean,
this is a monstrous animal. Can you imagine coming into
this is basically the jaws size great white shark.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Yeah, I mean, I think Jaws, the mechanical Jaws would
have been about a twenty footer. And there are great whites.
I think Deep Blue is the biggest great white ever
seen in the is ever seen as a name for it,
and he usually is off the coast of Hawaii's where
they've seen it, and that goes over twenty feet. But yeah,
a five thousand pounds great white shark they estimate off
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of Martha's Vineyard. And I'm just saying, before I go
to the beach, you know, sharks man, you gotta keep
an eye out. You know, I'm always the chance of
being eaten by a shark is less than a chance
of being struck by lightning. And yet, ever since watching
that movie, which you know, in part was filmed in
Martha's Vineyard, there are a few iconic scenes in Jaws,
(34:21):
which is supposed to take place in the fictional Amity. Yeah,
but it really is filmed largely in Martha's Vineyard. And
I've been to some of the sites. I was like,
that looks familiar, and it's oh, yeah, it actually is
where they film this part of Jaws.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
I would argue, and this would be a fun debate
sometime that Jaws is the most influential movie that's ever
been made. And some of you out there are rolling
your eyes. When I say most influential movie that's ever
been made, I mean a a fictional movie, right.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
There have been other movies.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
You could probably talk to some of the Lenny Reef
install crazy videos that she made for the Nazis, things
like that, historical films. I'm talking about a fictional film.
I think Jaws has influenced people's life more than any
other movie that's ever been made, because every time you
go in the ocean, you think about getting eaten by
a shark if you've seen Jaws.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
And I know it's late and I'm about to go
on vacation for a few days, so maybe that's why
this is turning into like a bro podcast over here.
But it's also amazing to me that as fearsome and
large as great white sharks are, orca the killer whale
can make absolute mincemeat of any great white shark, and
yet there has never once been in the wild a
killer whale attack on a human being?
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Isn't that there are killer whales here where I am
in Seattle?
Speaker 4 (35:36):
Right?
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Can't you occasionally see them like just off the coast. Yes,
they're I mean they're dolphins, not whales. They're giant dolphins effectively,
so they're as smart as dolphins, which people don't often
really think about.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
We did the killer whale enclosure at SeaWorld, which I
think is super like they did the whole movie about that.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
It got all controversial, black fin or something. I think
that's right.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
And when after SeaWorld in a big way, I don't
know anything about the health of the sea worlds, of
the of the the animals there at SeaWorld. I think it.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Elephant just got loose. By the way you see this too,
I think an elephant just got loose.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
I'm serious.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Do you guys check this out before we I think
an elephant in Montana at a circus. Yes, I just
saw a full on elephant loose from the circus in
some town in Montana running around in the streets. True
king of the land animals. Elephant not even close nothing
even You.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Could have a grizzly bear elephant interaction in Montana, which
is like every kid's dream.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Elephant would absolutely destroy it would crush the grizzly bear
like a Bug wouldn't even be close.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Battle.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Bood, rest your weekend. Have a good rest of your weekend.
I'll try to stay out of prison when you come
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