April 17, 2024 • 36 mins
NPR whistleblower Uri Berliner resigns. New radical leftist NPR CEO Katherine Maher admitted to colluding with government to censor "misinformation" in previous job. Katherine Maher's radical leftist tweets unearthed. GOP should defund NPR. If Trump is convicted, will they sentence him to house arrest?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in everybody. Wednesday edition of The
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show starts right now, and
we have much to discuss, as is often the case here,
a lot of news breaking, a lot of things happening.
We've got the Trump trial in NYC. Jury selection fully underway,
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a number of jurors making it through the early stages
of the gauntlets that is jury selection. We will discuss
how a little bit the same way that the Supreme Court.
We're told there's a non partisan institution jury selection. A
lot of people clearly have animus against Trump, for example,
(00:49):
and it seems some of them are in this jury
process trying to suggest that, oh, but I could still
be impartial. Yeah, we'll discuss this in detail. Trump also
going up to the well a bodega, which is like
a small neighborhood grocery store New Yorkers all know, but
for other folks across the country, bodega is not as
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common a thing. The isn't it isn't that the one
also where I think I think doctor Jill Biden, And
just so you're clear, we call her that sarcastically. Some
of you write in and say she's not really a doctor.
We know that's the point we like to be, you know,
like doctor Jill Biden's getting called in by her pager
on an episode of Graze and had to me to
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save lives. She wrote a like a PhD dissertation that
was absolute garbage for I think the University of Delaware
or something on education. Uh so, yeah, anyway, but yes,
doctor Jill Biden. I think she was the one who said,
but bodega or something. She couldn't she didn't know what
a bodega was. It's pretty funny, but this is about
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the bodega guy who defended himself with a with a
knife on video against an assailant who was much bigger,
who cornered him and for no reason started just punching him,
and he defended himself with a knife and the guy died,
and he was charged with murder. If you remember Alvin Bragg,
we were outraged here on this show and said it
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at the time, and the pressure from people of New
York and across the country who recognized what an outrage
this is push Bragg to drop those charges. But Trump
is going to visit that store proprietor go visit the
guy working at the bodega he went. And this is
highlighting I think a big difference between Democrats and Republicans
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going into this election cycle. Also a lot of hubbub,
a lot of stuff going on online around the salary
that Caitlin Clark has the president or at least his staff. Again,
we know Joe Biden doesn't write his tweets, but it's
on his behalf, right, So the White House apparatus put
(03:03):
out a tweet upset about how much money Caitlin Clark,
the NCAA female basketball superstar, how much she is going
to make. It is by professional athletic standards, not a
lot of money. And there's the Biden White House is
saying this is unfair because Joe Biden neither knows nor
(03:25):
understands the first thing about running a business, economic supply
and demand, anything like that. So we will definitely want
to dive into some of that because it's well, it
just shows that one side here lives in reality and
the other side lives in a delusion. And then we've
got this is the big one for me today. You know,
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Clay and I were going back and forth on this
one on air, just talking about because he was he
started bringing to my attention that tweets around NPR's new chief,
the chief Commissar of np R. And the thing about
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it is, when you look at her tweets, it's very
apparent that everything that you think is true of the
head of NPR is in fact true of the head
of NPR. And Uri Yuri Yuri I think right, Uri
Yuri Uri Berliner, who is the guy who is an
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MPR editor who said, hey, hold on a second, there
are eighty seven editors in the newsroom, and not a
single one of them is a Republican. Every one of
them is a registered Democrat. That can't be a journalistic
enterprise of any seriousness. Clay he has resigned. I have
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his real quick here's his resignation letter sent to Katherine
Maher who We're going to have some fun with you
in a second. I'm resigning from NPR, great American institution
where I've worked for twenty five five years. I don't
support calls to defund NPR. Well, too bad. I respect
the integrity of my colleagues and wish for ENDPR to
thrive and do important journalism but I cannot work in
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a newsroom where I am disparaged by a new CEO
whose divisive views confirm the very problems at NPR. In
my free press essay, Clay, is this a shockwave through
the communist media? Well, we will, we will dive into it,
you know. In that regard. First, I gotta say, look
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at some of the tweets from oh we have better
than tweets. We have Katherine Maher I suppose no relation
to Bill Maher, same spelling of the last name. We
have Katherine Maher here, the new NPR CEO. I think
she just took over in January of this year, so
it's new. The kind of things that you think, without
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even knowing an NPR boss would say, she is like
made in a lab by communists. It's amazing when you
actually hear her view of things. For example, she's one
of these individuals who works in journalism and you really
have to put the scare quotes. The scare quotes must
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be there. She's one of these people who works in
journalism but thinks that the First Amendment is an impediment
to the real mission. And you say, well, hold on
a second, how can freedom of expression and free speech
be a challenge to journalism. The only way is if
journalism is actually propaganda, is if you're taking a partisan
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point of view in order to bring about a certain
conclusion in the mind of the audience. Hmmm. Catherine Maher
Back in twenty twenty one June of twenty twenty one,
during the pandemic, she was CEO of Wikimedia. So I
think she was running Wikipedia like that falls under And
let me tell you Wikipedia, just like Twitter was before
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Elon bought it, It is a communist enclave. They absolutely
control Wikipedia. They there's so much bias, all kinds of
things going on there that you know, people should be
very cognizant of. Whenever you do a Wikipedia search, I
should also be very cognizant. Ginger has found her way
(07:22):
into the studio and while I am doing a live
radio show for millions of people, is dropping her favorite
chew toy on my feet and saying you must throw this.
So if you're watching the video wondering why that chew
toy is being thrown, there you go. Catherine mar twenty
twenty one June. This is what she said when she
was running Wikimedia. Play it.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
We took a very active approach to disinformation and misinformation
coming into the lot, not just the last selection, but
also looking at how we supported our editing community in
an unprecedented moment where we were not only dealing with
the global pandemic, we were dealing with a novel virus,
which is by definition means we knew nothing about it
in real time and we're trying to figure it out
(08:01):
as the pandemic went along. And so we really set
up in response to both the pandemic but also in
response to the upcoming US election and as a model
for future elections outside of the US, including a number
that are happening in this year. The model was around
how do we create sort of a clearing house of
information that brings the institution of the Wikimedia Foundation with
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the editing community in order to be able to identify
threats early on through conversations with government of course, as
well as other platform operators to understand sort of what
the landscape looks like.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
That's a lot of jargon to say we were coordinating
with the Biden administration to decide what could be said
on Wikipedia and through Wikimedia about the pandemic. That is
state media. Now, this is also interesting because NPR likes
to have it both ways. Oh, we're just like honest journalists, man, Like,
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we just care about the truth than journalism. And yet
they take money from the federal government. I believe state
governments also give money to NPR. And when people like
me point this out, and conservatives have been saying this
for years, you know, we don't get any state money, right,
I mean I said to Clay, I said, look, you know,
if the federal government wants to give us five or
(09:20):
ten million bucks, I'd say, hey, you know, I mean,
we wouldn't take it. I'm just kidding. Well, we'd think
about it, but we probably wouldn't take it. Why would
you have state funding of this? It's absurd on its face,
it makes no sense. And then they say, well, it's
only federal government one percent of our budget or something,
to which I say, great, then you don't need it.
It can't be we don't need the funding, but don't
(09:43):
take away our funding. But that's the game that NPR plays.
Oh no, it's not like we're relying on state funds.
But if you take it away from us, you're destroying
like access to information for you know, one hundred million
Americans or whatever it is they say that listens to
it or has act to it. But back to the
point here, why is this a moment that I think
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is getting so much attention from emberby One? You have
an NPR the guy worked there for decades, So it's
not like what you get on the left. Sometimes on
the left you'll have some infiltrator, you know, get somebody
who's like, oh, like I managed to get a job
at Fox News. I worked there for two months, and
it's propaganda. I mean, no, no, this is a guy.
(10:29):
Uri Berliner is a guy who was drinking the kool
aid for a long time. I mean, it's not like
NPR just went woke. It is the most woke. In fact,
it's so woke that when someone tells me in real
life that they're an NPR listener, I'm actually somewhat curious
to hear what they have to say, Like I want
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to know, you know, if they listen to CNN, I
know it's just all I hate Trump, But if they
listen to NPR, they're just like, yeah, we just need
to get rid of gender entirely, and we just need
a global government, and we all need to get rid
of capitalism and you're just like wait, what like they're
they're on this whole other level of delusion and separation
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from from reality. And we have more by the way
of Catherine Moore again, the First Amendment is the foundation
upon which really all American rights are built. Right, if
you cannot speak, and that's why the whole thing when
Clay and I were talking about the trial in New
York and there was that you know that imbecile swallwell,
(11:33):
oh you can't say that, Clay. When that was going on,
I remember thinking, if you can't talk about a trial,
and what's justin unjust? We do we by definition, do
not live in a free society. And when the people
who are supposed to be the most stalwart defendant, defenders
of defendant trial, defenders of the First Amendment, when they
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are on the other side, it's not even that they
refuse to do their job. They have joined the enemies
of the First Amendment. They are part of the censorship apparatus.
They are going above and beyond to silence people who
disagree with them or who just refuse to carry the
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water of the communist democrat left in this country. When
you reach that point, you see that we're actually at
a dangerous moment in time for our most basic freedoms.
I'm going to get into more of this Catherine mar
lady in a sect because she's amazing. I'm telling you,
she is the perfect NPR CEO. All of her positions.
(12:41):
I've got her tweets here, and what you need to know.
If you're saying, oh, buck, I don't even listen to NPR,
I don't even care. Her mentality is reflected in the
executive suites of every major newspaper and news organization that
is not explicitly right of center in America, and every
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editorial room, every newsroom for a for a publication that
would not be identified by the left as conservative, so right,
whether whether you would say the Wall Street Journal is
conservative or not. Guess what the left thinks. It's very conservative.
They think it's ultra right wing. They're crazy. This is
an exploration of the mindset of the censorious, totalitarian left,
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and that's why I think it's so fascinating. But also
I mentioned the Uri Berliner guy. It's too much for
him after twenty years. If you've been working at NPR
for twenty years, how crazy must NPR be for you
to finally say, for twenty years I was okay with
these commies, but now they've gone too far. You know,
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in a sense, he shows what I've been saying now
for over a decade. The acceleration of the lunist from
the left is very real, and it's happening all the time.
This is not the same Democrat party it was ten
or twenty years ago. It's certainly not the same media
that it was. So we'll discuss and if any of
you have any funny NPR anecdotes, I would love to
(14:15):
hear them, or just you know, if you've listened to
NPR recently and you found yourself, if you're in the
car and you're looking for Clay and Buck on the
AM and all of a sudden you find yourself listening
to NPR, it's like an assault on your ear drums
all of a sudden. But I know it can be
very melodic sounding. It's like, oh, well, today we're talking
about the best way to make a summer salad. You know,
(14:36):
I know, I know they sneak that stuff in there.
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Speaker 1 (16:12):
You will appreciate this buck.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
As I was waiting to get on the elevator this
morning at the studio in Seattle, there was one other
guy waiting for the elevator. He saw me come up
waiting beside him, pulled his mask out of his back pocket,
put it on his face to ride with his mask
on in the elevator with me up one floor. He
(16:36):
was on floor two. I was on floor four. He
was standing in the lobby perfectly fine. I can only
manage the panic that he felt when I walked up
near him, and as a result, it was that's just
kind of I thought that epitomized, even though I've only
been here a little bit because yesterday I was in
Atlanta and I had the late night flight out here.
(16:59):
But I thought that kind of a pit of my
Seattle for me. Guy standing in a lobby with no
mask on. I walk up beside him. He's literally going
up one one elevator floor right. He's on the elevator
for thirty seconds. Puts a full mask on for purposes
of that of that drive.
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I don't think I've ever seen a Gray's Anatomy episode,
and I don't think Laura has ever watched Gray's Anatomy.
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So I may have dodged a bullet there because I
know it was a very popular show. But I remember
all of the attention on that show back in the day,
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Speaker 1 (19:00):
We're talking a bit about NPR and the media meltdown
going on over there. Will dive into that's moral stick
some of your calls, but letting you know, coming up
the next hour, Clay is still having cable news hosts
calling for him to be incarcerated, which I think is
very mean and also very stupid, But they are, there
(19:22):
are still some of them out there. They will I
play with this audience. We'd get you out, buddy. Don't
worry about it. There's no I'm in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
I mean, if I were going to be arrested in
a city, I would put Seattle top five most likely
cities to arrest me.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I mean, it definitely would not be where I would
want to be facing whoever the district attorney is there.
We'll discuss that, and also the the from the White
House furor over the market rate that you get if
you pay a play in the w nb A. People
are very upset that when you have very few fans
(19:58):
and make very little money, you don't pay people that
work in that industry all that much money, you know.
I mean, WNBA buck has never made a dollar of
profit in over twenty five years of existence. I just
don't understand when when I was a high school soccer coach,
I was doing important work, and I loved that job
and had a lot of fun, and I just think
I should have been paid a million dollars. I don't
(20:20):
know why that seems fair to me. I think a
million dollars for one season is fair. Question.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
How many businesses exist that have not made money for
twenty five straight years? Can we put it in it
because I want us to come back to this with
the White House and the whole thing, because other right
now we're see it's.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Like waving the stake and the food by it. It's
waving the stake in front of the lion cage. With
Clay when you talk about the WNBA salary situation, I
know he wants to dive into it. We're gonna get
into that next hour. We got a little more here though,
on the resignation of this longtime NPR editor because he
basically I'm translating what he said here, but he's like,
these people are out of their minds, Like this whole
(20:59):
thing is a joke. Nobody here is trying to be
nonpart is in and we all know this, and I
know that's a part of it, but this is exposing
it in a way that it goes yet again, you know,
on the on the wall of shame for journalism. Uh
And and this, Catherine mar Lady is a perfect, a
(21:20):
perfect example of why if you're a conservative right now,
there are places that they would even consider hiring you
or letting you work. Ever, I mean, they would be
offended if you even send in your resume to them.
And it's effectively all news organizations that are not consideracy.
There are some that won't that would say that they're
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not right wing right, but the left would say their
right wing because they're not explicitly left wing. I know
that can be a little garbled, but that's that's the
reality of the media landscape. It's who the left thinks
is right wing, because that just means you're not insane.
And Catherine, here we go. Here's some of the best ones.
These are tweets from the head of NPR, which does
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get your tax dollars whether you want it to or not.
She tweeted this one out, clay Or, I don't know.
The planet is literally burning, and it took until my
early thirties to stop living paycheck to paycheck, and maybe
giant ethical gamble for children in question has become clear, unless,
(22:25):
of course, you're suffused with enough privilege to not to
have to wonder the language choices and words here, Clay,
I always find this fascinating. If you go watch old
like old spy movies and things, there's a mechanistic way
that KGB agents and Soviet bureaucrats speak about things. There's
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words you know about the party and comrade, and to
show people that they are obedient to the narrative. We
have the same thing in this country with the left.
I mean what she's saying here, the way she's constructing it,
none of this is meant to make any sense. It's
all meant to show everyone I am down for the cause. Buck.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
There's also now more information on this. This is from
the Wall Street Journal, sorry New York Times, about fifty
NPR ploys has Ben Mullen. Fifty NPR employees signed a
letter to the CEO and the top editor calling for,
among other things, a public rebuke of quote the factual
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inaccuracies and delisions in Uri Berliner's Free Press essay. So
they're still not over the fact that their objectivity could
be questioned in any way, and they are now demanding
a public rebuke of the things that were said based
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on his article. So this is again, I know you
were talking about this in the open. If the Republican
Party were in any way competent, and we understand that
in many ways it is not, they would do a
full dive into every dollar that NPR gets, and they
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would legitimately go after any funding that is directly or
indirectly taxpayer related that NPR gets, because NPR fights so
hard to claim that it isn't government sponsored media, because
they actually are getting tons of money, and you guys know,
and Monday was a tax day everybody's still recovering from.
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But if you give accountants the opportunity to do the books,
they can try to create revenue that doesn't look like
it's direct, and it actually is, but they're claiming that
it's indirect because of the way the money is spent
based on what was published by Uri Berliner. There should
never be another direct or indirect dollar that NPR gets,
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and they should have to live on their own in
the capitalist marketplace, and right now they seem terrified at
the idea that they should have to do so. But
I think it's interesting that all of these employees, who
are all left wing Democrats, are demanding that this one guy,
who also, by the way, is a Democrat, that he
not be allowed to have the opinion that they are
rigging the entire editorial process. Oh and I've got more
(25:25):
tweets from the NPR CEO here that we could have
some fun with. This one was particularly great. She wrote,
anyone and these are all from the last couple of years.
Doesn't really matter what the date is, because we're just
showing the mindset anyone else. Love watching the credits at
the end of a movie or show, just to marvel
at the diversity of names and surnames involved. Always gives
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me happy goosebumps to see the world scroll by. She
gets goosebumps when they're running the names at the end
of a movie like this is a crazy Really, I
just believe everybody else is either fast forwarding, pressing stop,
or walking out of the room. Nobody cares.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
But she gets goosebumps when she sees the credits at
the end of a movie. What is this? Like? This
is not normal stuff, Clay, there's something wrong with people
that think this way. Well, I mean they're in a cult.
I mean that's where you have to start.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
The woke cult requires that you take leaps of faith
and put out statements that are clearly objectively not in
any way related to the truth, right, And they've replaced
religion with this ideology of genuflection at the altar of Dei.
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And what's disappointing is that someone like this could rise
to the level of management because the one thing you
would want is if I were sort of waving a
magic wand and saying what do I want? As who
do I want as the head of a journalistic organization,
I would say, I want somebody who's super open minded
and willing to consider that he or she might be
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wrong and follow the facts wherever they lead. That's what
journalism at its essence used to do. That no longer occurs.
These are propagandists, and I guess that's fine, But allowing
them to masquerade as independent arbiters of truth is where
I think all of media has lost its way.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Well, this is also why it's so important for them
to keep up this. It's a fig leaf, right, It's
a facade of neutrality because if they are open about
what they do. And CNN has just gone through this, right,
CNN lost the facade. It lost that veil of false
neutrality when it went so psychotically anti Trump purged all
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of the conservatives on the on air pay roll like
it was no longer possible, and Zucker got ousted. Right
because of it, you go into the Biden era. Now
what do you do? You can't just talk about Trump
all day long. We've got a bunch of lunatic left
wingers posing as newsmen and women. So they had to
do a whole reshuffle there, because if you're one, they
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want to present it as truth, not opinion. That's always
the sense, because that's more powerful, right for political purposes. Oh,
we're not telling you what we think. We're telling you
what is true. And the only way to really achieve
that is to be either factual entirely, which they're not,
or honest about where you come from and say this
is the truth as I see it. You are free
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to disagree. They lie. They won't do that, CNN won't
do that, and NPR won't do that. And then the
other part of it is clay. This is also how
they can avoid having to defend their positions publicly. Meaning
you know what would happen if you and I walked
in the New York Times, that either of us, both
of us together, I mean, they would have heart attacks.
But we walk in the New York Times editorial room
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and we're like, all right, guys, we want to talk
to you about let's have a conversation about the following issue.
They'd get smoked, and they know they'd get they probably.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Up, probably put their masks on first, like they double
mask when they saw you coming.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I Tamperor, he's very upset at you. It's ridiculous. But no,
you're right. They they don't.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
And and this, to me was the lesson of the
only real debate we've seen in the past few years,
which was Gavin Newsom versus Ron DeSantis. Gavin Newsom got
fullaid because he's been protected by the media for so
long that suddenly, when he wasn't able to spread easy,
refutable wise about his uh tenure as governor of California,
(29:38):
DeSantis absolutely destroyed him. And I think that's what should
happen when these ideas end up in the marketplace and
are legitimately debated.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
I also think there was a greater willingness by Democrats
in the media to debate fifteen twenty years ago because
some of their positions were more debatable. Yes, you know
it was. It's it's far less insane if they if
somebody wants to sit down and have an argument with
me over whether the top marginal tax rate should be
(30:09):
forty seven percent instead of I think it's thirty nine
or thirty seven now I can't even remember. But what
just made my taxes whatever it is. You know, there's
an argument, like I would disagree with them, I think
taxes should be lower. But there's an argument. They could say, well,
here's how he would direct the spending. They'd be lying
because the spending never goes what they say. But I'm
just saying, there's an argument you had. When I sit
there and I'm like that guy, he has a penis,
(30:29):
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Off worth noting that the truck trial is not taking
place on Wednesday, but they have now gone out buck
and they have seven different jurors, and maybe in the
(32:54):
next hour we've got limited descriptions of those jurors, some
of them cautiously, maybe some reason for optimism. Again, there's
only a couple of sentence that their sentence is that
they're allowed to give to describe them. But I was
reading last night that seven. It does mean that they're
seeding this jury faster than frankly I thought they would,
(33:16):
because the first day was pretty slow. I didn't think
they would have seven jurors by Tuesday. Telling you, everything
is warp speed when it comes to getting Trump Monday.
It seems likely that we are going to basically get
the rest of the jury seated, and then there's a
decent chance I think the week after that that they
(33:37):
could or maybe they'll start Monday. I don't know's it's moving.
The fact that they got the jury this fast is
kind of stunning to me.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
I'm also coming around more and more to I think
house arrest is where this is heading. If they get
a conviction. I think that's what to try to keep
them off the trail and make him stay up mar
A Lago, because I think their calculation is is then
he's a convicted felon. Again, I'm thinking I'm sitting on
(34:04):
the you know, enemy side of the table here, folks,
that he's uh, he'd be a convicted felon. He's not
in you know, in a prison cell. He'd be in
Trump Tower in New York City. So like, no one's
gonna feel bad for him. He'll be perfectly safe. The
Secret Service will you know, protect him, and but it
would keep him from being able to do what he
needs to do for fundraise, you know what I'm saying, Like,
(34:25):
I think that's.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
The keeps him off the trail in all the Midwest
states where ultimately this election is. I want to ask
Andy that because Also, then I think there's just less
urgency for this thing about you're gonna lock up a
former president and it would be Riker's Island everyone, Okay,
I know New York City. That would be where they
would most likely try to send him, even if it
was for you know, a thirty day stint.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
In the big House. But yeah, I think I think.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Buck, there's a good chance that this thing is still
going to get return overturned on appeal. And we'll ask
Andy about that because it's not just the bookkeeping charge.
It's that it has to be pegged to an additional
crime and the legality that I still question.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
But doesn't the judge. I mean, the judge can decide
whether you're in or out pending appeal right.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
In theory, although usually and again this is a good
question for Andy, when it's not a severe felony, they
would say, Okay, we're going to bring you back and
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We know the Biden administration doesn't understand basic economics. Biden's
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his life. He's been a politician. But what he said
about Caitlin Clark and by what he said, I mean
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It's really pretty staggering. We're going to talk about it
when we return. Thanks for hanging
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Boo,
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in everybody. Wednesday edition of The
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show starts right now, and
we have much to discuss, as is often the case here,
a lot of news breaking, a lot of things happening.
We've got the Trump trial in NYC. Jury selection fully underway,
(00:25):
a number of jurors making it through the early stages
of the gauntlets that is jury selection. We will discuss
how a little bit the same way that the Supreme Court.
We're told there's a non partisan institution jury selection. A
lot of people clearly have animus against Trump, for example,
(00:49):
and it seems some of them are in this jury
process trying to suggest that, oh, but I could still
be impartial. Yeah, we'll discuss this in detail. Trump also
going up to the well a bodega, which is like
a small neighborhood grocery store New Yorkers all know, but
for other folks across the country, bodega is not as
(01:12):
common a thing. The isn't it isn't that the one
also where I think I think doctor Jill Biden, And
just so you're clear, we call her that sarcastically. Some
of you write in and say she's not really a doctor.
We know that's the point we like to be, you know,
like doctor Jill Biden's getting called in by her pager
on an episode of Graze and had to me to
(01:34):
save lives. She wrote a like a PhD dissertation that
was absolute garbage for I think the University of Delaware
or something on education. Uh so, yeah, anyway, but yes,
doctor Jill Biden. I think she was the one who said,
but bodega or something. She couldn't she didn't know what
a bodega was. It's pretty funny, but this is about
(01:55):
the bodega guy who defended himself with a with a
knife on video against an assailant who was much bigger,
who cornered him and for no reason started just punching him,
and he defended himself with a knife and the guy died,
and he was charged with murder. If you remember Alvin Bragg,
we were outraged here on this show and said it
(02:16):
at the time, and the pressure from people of New
York and across the country who recognized what an outrage
this is push Bragg to drop those charges. But Trump
is going to visit that store proprietor go visit the
guy working at the bodega he went. And this is
highlighting I think a big difference between Democrats and Republicans
(02:40):
going into this election cycle. Also a lot of hubbub,
a lot of stuff going on online around the salary
that Caitlin Clark has the president or at least his staff. Again,
we know Joe Biden doesn't write his tweets, but it's
on his behalf, right, So the White House apparatus put
(03:03):
out a tweet upset about how much money Caitlin Clark,
the NCAA female basketball superstar, how much she is going
to make. It is by professional athletic standards, not a
lot of money. And there's the Biden White House is
saying this is unfair because Joe Biden neither knows nor
(03:25):
understands the first thing about running a business, economic supply
and demand, anything like that. So we will definitely want
to dive into some of that because it's well, it
just shows that one side here lives in reality and
the other side lives in a delusion. And then we've
got this is the big one for me today. You know,
(03:46):
Clay and I were going back and forth on this
one on air, just talking about because he was he
started bringing to my attention that tweets around NPR's new chief,
the chief Commissar of np R. And the thing about
(04:07):
it is, when you look at her tweets, it's very
apparent that everything that you think is true of the
head of NPR is in fact true of the head
of NPR. And Uri Yuri Yuri I think right, Uri
Yuri Uri Berliner, who is the guy who is an
(04:29):
MPR editor who said, hey, hold on a second, there
are eighty seven editors in the newsroom, and not a
single one of them is a Republican. Every one of
them is a registered Democrat. That can't be a journalistic
enterprise of any seriousness. Clay he has resigned. I have
(04:50):
his real quick here's his resignation letter sent to Katherine
Maher who We're going to have some fun with you
in a second. I'm resigning from NPR, great American institution
where I've worked for twenty five five years. I don't
support calls to defund NPR. Well, too bad. I respect
the integrity of my colleagues and wish for ENDPR to
thrive and do important journalism but I cannot work in
(05:10):
a newsroom where I am disparaged by a new CEO
whose divisive views confirm the very problems at NPR. In
my free press essay, Clay, is this a shockwave through
the communist media? Well, we will, we will dive into it,
you know. In that regard. First, I gotta say, look
(05:31):
at some of the tweets from oh we have better
than tweets. We have Katherine Maher I suppose no relation
to Bill Maher, same spelling of the last name. We
have Katherine Maher here, the new NPR CEO. I think
she just took over in January of this year, so
it's new. The kind of things that you think, without
(05:54):
even knowing an NPR boss would say, she is like
made in a lab by communists. It's amazing when you
actually hear her view of things. For example, she's one
of these individuals who works in journalism and you really
have to put the scare quotes. The scare quotes must
(06:15):
be there. She's one of these people who works in
journalism but thinks that the First Amendment is an impediment
to the real mission. And you say, well, hold on
a second, how can freedom of expression and free speech
be a challenge to journalism. The only way is if
journalism is actually propaganda, is if you're taking a partisan
(06:38):
point of view in order to bring about a certain
conclusion in the mind of the audience. Hmmm. Catherine Maher
Back in twenty twenty one June of twenty twenty one,
during the pandemic, she was CEO of Wikimedia. So I
think she was running Wikipedia like that falls under And
let me tell you Wikipedia, just like Twitter was before
(07:01):
Elon bought it, It is a communist enclave. They absolutely
control Wikipedia. They there's so much bias, all kinds of
things going on there that you know, people should be
very cognizant of. Whenever you do a Wikipedia search, I
should also be very cognizant. Ginger has found her way
(07:22):
into the studio and while I am doing a live
radio show for millions of people, is dropping her favorite
chew toy on my feet and saying you must throw this.
So if you're watching the video wondering why that chew
toy is being thrown, there you go. Catherine mar twenty
twenty one June. This is what she said when she
was running Wikimedia. Play it.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
We took a very active approach to disinformation and misinformation
coming into the lot, not just the last selection, but
also looking at how we supported our editing community in
an unprecedented moment where we were not only dealing with
the global pandemic, we were dealing with a novel virus,
which is by definition means we knew nothing about it
in real time and we're trying to figure it out
(08:01):
as the pandemic went along. And so we really set
up in response to both the pandemic but also in
response to the upcoming US election and as a model
for future elections outside of the US, including a number
that are happening in this year. The model was around
how do we create sort of a clearing house of
information that brings the institution of the Wikimedia Foundation with
(08:22):
the editing community in order to be able to identify
threats early on through conversations with government of course, as
well as other platform operators to understand sort of what
the landscape looks like.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
That's a lot of jargon to say we were coordinating
with the Biden administration to decide what could be said
on Wikipedia and through Wikimedia about the pandemic. That is
state media. Now, this is also interesting because NPR likes
to have it both ways. Oh, we're just like honest journalists, man, Like,
(08:58):
we just care about the truth than journalism. And yet
they take money from the federal government. I believe state
governments also give money to NPR. And when people like
me point this out, and conservatives have been saying this
for years, you know, we don't get any state money, right,
I mean I said to Clay, I said, look, you know,
if the federal government wants to give us five or
(09:20):
ten million bucks, I'd say, hey, you know, I mean,
we wouldn't take it. I'm just kidding. Well, we'd think
about it, but we probably wouldn't take it. Why would
you have state funding of this? It's absurd on its face,
it makes no sense. And then they say, well, it's
only federal government one percent of our budget or something,
to which I say, great, then you don't need it.
It can't be we don't need the funding, but don't
(09:43):
take away our funding. But that's the game that NPR plays.
Oh no, it's not like we're relying on state funds.
But if you take it away from us, you're destroying
like access to information for you know, one hundred million
Americans or whatever it is they say that listens to
it or has act to it. But back to the
point here, why is this a moment that I think
(10:08):
is getting so much attention from emberby One? You have
an NPR the guy worked there for decades, So it's
not like what you get on the left. Sometimes on
the left you'll have some infiltrator, you know, get somebody
who's like, oh, like I managed to get a job
at Fox News. I worked there for two months, and
it's propaganda. I mean, no, no, this is a guy.
(10:29):
Uri Berliner is a guy who was drinking the kool
aid for a long time. I mean, it's not like
NPR just went woke. It is the most woke. In fact,
it's so woke that when someone tells me in real
life that they're an NPR listener, I'm actually somewhat curious
to hear what they have to say, Like I want
(10:49):
to know, you know, if they listen to CNN, I
know it's just all I hate Trump, But if they
listen to NPR, they're just like, yeah, we just need
to get rid of gender entirely, and we just need
a global government, and we all need to get rid
of capitalism and you're just like wait, what like they're
they're on this whole other level of delusion and separation
(11:10):
from from reality. And we have more by the way
of Catherine Moore again, the First Amendment is the foundation
upon which really all American rights are built. Right, if
you cannot speak, and that's why the whole thing when
Clay and I were talking about the trial in New
York and there was that you know that imbecile swallwell,
(11:33):
oh you can't say that, Clay. When that was going on,
I remember thinking, if you can't talk about a trial,
and what's justin unjust? We do we by definition, do
not live in a free society. And when the people
who are supposed to be the most stalwart defendant, defenders
of defendant trial, defenders of the First Amendment, when they
(11:58):
are on the other side, it's not even that they
refuse to do their job. They have joined the enemies
of the First Amendment. They are part of the censorship apparatus.
They are going above and beyond to silence people who
disagree with them or who just refuse to carry the
(12:19):
water of the communist democrat left in this country. When
you reach that point, you see that we're actually at
a dangerous moment in time for our most basic freedoms.
I'm going to get into more of this Catherine mar
lady in a sect because she's amazing. I'm telling you,
she is the perfect NPR CEO. All of her positions.
(12:41):
I've got her tweets here, and what you need to know.
If you're saying, oh, buck, I don't even listen to NPR,
I don't even care. Her mentality is reflected in the
executive suites of every major newspaper and news organization that
is not explicitly right of center in America, and every
(13:05):
editorial room, every newsroom for a for a publication that
would not be identified by the left as conservative, so right,
whether whether you would say the Wall Street Journal is
conservative or not. Guess what the left thinks. It's very conservative.
They think it's ultra right wing. They're crazy. This is
an exploration of the mindset of the censorious, totalitarian left,
(13:33):
and that's why I think it's so fascinating. But also
I mentioned the Uri Berliner guy. It's too much for
him after twenty years. If you've been working at NPR
for twenty years, how crazy must NPR be for you
to finally say, for twenty years I was okay with
these commies, but now they've gone too far. You know,
(13:53):
in a sense, he shows what I've been saying now
for over a decade. The acceleration of the lunist from
the left is very real, and it's happening all the time.
This is not the same Democrat party it was ten
or twenty years ago. It's certainly not the same media
that it was. So we'll discuss and if any of
you have any funny NPR anecdotes, I would love to
(14:15):
hear them, or just you know, if you've listened to
NPR recently and you found yourself, if you're in the
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very melodic sounding. It's like, oh, well, today we're talking
about the best way to make a summer salad. You know,
(14:36):
I know, I know they sneak that stuff in there.
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(16:36):
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But I thought that kind of a pit of my
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We're talking a bit about NPR and the media meltdown
going on over there. Will dive into that's moral stick
some of your calls, but letting you know, coming up
the next hour, Clay is still having cable news hosts
calling for him to be incarcerated, which I think is
very mean and also very stupid, But they are, there
(19:22):
are still some of them out there. They will I
play with this audience. We'd get you out, buddy. Don't
worry about it. There's no I'm in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
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a city, I would put Seattle top five most likely
cities to arrest me.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I mean, it definitely would not be where I would
want to be facing whoever the district attorney is there.
We'll discuss that, and also the the from the White
House furor over the market rate that you get if
you pay a play in the w nb A. People
are very upset that when you have very few fans
(19:58):
and make very little money, you don't pay people that
work in that industry all that much money, you know.
I mean, WNBA buck has never made a dollar of
profit in over twenty five years of existence. I just
don't understand when when I was a high school soccer coach,
I was doing important work, and I loved that job
and had a lot of fun, and I just think
I should have been paid a million dollars. I don't
(20:20):
know why that seems fair to me. I think a
million dollars for one season is fair. Question.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
How many businesses exist that have not made money for
twenty five straight years? Can we put it in it
because I want us to come back to this with
the White House and the whole thing, because other right
now we're see it's.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Like waving the stake and the food by it. It's
waving the stake in front of the lion cage. With
Clay when you talk about the WNBA salary situation, I
know he wants to dive into it. We're gonna get
into that next hour. We got a little more here though,
on the resignation of this longtime NPR editor because he
basically I'm translating what he said here, but he's like,
these people are out of their minds, Like this whole
(20:59):
thing is a joke. Nobody here is trying to be
nonpart is in and we all know this, and I
know that's a part of it, but this is exposing
it in a way that it goes yet again, you know,
on the on the wall of shame for journalism. Uh
And and this, Catherine mar Lady is a perfect, a
(21:20):
perfect example of why if you're a conservative right now,
there are places that they would even consider hiring you
or letting you work. Ever, I mean, they would be
offended if you even send in your resume to them.
And it's effectively all news organizations that are not consideracy.
There are some that won't that would say that they're
(21:42):
not right wing right, but the left would say their
right wing because they're not explicitly left wing. I know
that can be a little garbled, but that's that's the
reality of the media landscape. It's who the left thinks
is right wing, because that just means you're not insane.
And Catherine, here we go. Here's some of the best ones.
These are tweets from the head of NPR, which does
(22:05):
get your tax dollars whether you want it to or not.
She tweeted this one out, clay Or, I don't know.
The planet is literally burning, and it took until my
early thirties to stop living paycheck to paycheck, and maybe
giant ethical gamble for children in question has become clear, unless,
(22:25):
of course, you're suffused with enough privilege to not to
have to wonder the language choices and words here, Clay,
I always find this fascinating. If you go watch old
like old spy movies and things, there's a mechanistic way
that KGB agents and Soviet bureaucrats speak about things. There's
(22:49):
words you know about the party and comrade, and to
show people that they are obedient to the narrative. We
have the same thing in this country with the left.
I mean what she's saying here, the way she's constructing it,
none of this is meant to make any sense. It's
all meant to show everyone I am down for the cause. Buck.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
There's also now more information on this. This is from
the Wall Street Journal, sorry New York Times, about fifty
NPR ploys has Ben Mullen. Fifty NPR employees signed a
letter to the CEO and the top editor calling for,
among other things, a public rebuke of quote the factual
(23:32):
inaccuracies and delisions in Uri Berliner's Free Press essay. So
they're still not over the fact that their objectivity could
be questioned in any way, and they are now demanding
a public rebuke of the things that were said based
(23:54):
on his article. So this is again, I know you
were talking about this in the open. If the Republican
Party were in any way competent, and we understand that
in many ways it is not, they would do a
full dive into every dollar that NPR gets, and they
(24:16):
would legitimately go after any funding that is directly or
indirectly taxpayer related that NPR gets, because NPR fights so
hard to claim that it isn't government sponsored media, because
they actually are getting tons of money, and you guys know,
and Monday was a tax day everybody's still recovering from.
(24:38):
But if you give accountants the opportunity to do the books,
they can try to create revenue that doesn't look like
it's direct, and it actually is, but they're claiming that
it's indirect because of the way the money is spent
based on what was published by Uri Berliner. There should
never be another direct or indirect dollar that NPR gets,
(25:00):
and they should have to live on their own in
the capitalist marketplace, and right now they seem terrified at
the idea that they should have to do so. But
I think it's interesting that all of these employees, who
are all left wing Democrats, are demanding that this one guy,
who also, by the way, is a Democrat, that he
not be allowed to have the opinion that they are
rigging the entire editorial process. Oh and I've got more
(25:25):
tweets from the NPR CEO here that we could have
some fun with. This one was particularly great. She wrote,
anyone and these are all from the last couple of years.
Doesn't really matter what the date is, because we're just
showing the mindset anyone else. Love watching the credits at
the end of a movie or show, just to marvel
at the diversity of names and surnames involved. Always gives
(25:48):
me happy goosebumps to see the world scroll by. She
gets goosebumps when they're running the names at the end
of a movie like this is a crazy Really, I
just believe everybody else is either fast forwarding, pressing stop,
or walking out of the room. Nobody cares.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
But she gets goosebumps when she sees the credits at
the end of a movie. What is this? Like? This
is not normal stuff, Clay, there's something wrong with people
that think this way. Well, I mean they're in a cult.
I mean that's where you have to start.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
The woke cult requires that you take leaps of faith
and put out statements that are clearly objectively not in
any way related to the truth, right, And they've replaced
religion with this ideology of genuflection at the altar of Dei.
(26:44):
And what's disappointing is that someone like this could rise
to the level of management because the one thing you
would want is if I were sort of waving a
magic wand and saying what do I want? As who
do I want as the head of a journalistic organization,
I would say, I want somebody who's super open minded
and willing to consider that he or she might be
(27:05):
wrong and follow the facts wherever they lead. That's what
journalism at its essence used to do. That no longer occurs.
These are propagandists, and I guess that's fine, But allowing
them to masquerade as independent arbiters of truth is where
I think all of media has lost its way.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Well, this is also why it's so important for them
to keep up this. It's a fig leaf, right, It's
a facade of neutrality because if they are open about
what they do. And CNN has just gone through this, right,
CNN lost the facade. It lost that veil of false
neutrality when it went so psychotically anti Trump purged all
(27:48):
of the conservatives on the on air pay roll like
it was no longer possible, and Zucker got ousted. Right
because of it, you go into the Biden era. Now
what do you do? You can't just talk about Trump
all day long. We've got a bunch of lunatic left
wingers posing as newsmen and women. So they had to
do a whole reshuffle there, because if you're one, they
(28:10):
want to present it as truth, not opinion. That's always
the sense, because that's more powerful, right for political purposes. Oh,
we're not telling you what we think. We're telling you
what is true. And the only way to really achieve
that is to be either factual entirely, which they're not,
or honest about where you come from and say this
is the truth as I see it. You are free
(28:32):
to disagree. They lie. They won't do that, CNN won't
do that, and NPR won't do that. And then the
other part of it is clay. This is also how
they can avoid having to defend their positions publicly. Meaning
you know what would happen if you and I walked
in the New York Times, that either of us, both
of us together, I mean, they would have heart attacks.
But we walk in the New York Times editorial room
(28:53):
and we're like, all right, guys, we want to talk
to you about let's have a conversation about the following issue.
They'd get smoked, and they know they'd get they probably.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Up, probably put their masks on first, like they double
mask when they saw you coming.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I Tamperor, he's very upset at you. It's ridiculous. But no,
you're right. They they don't.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
And and this, to me was the lesson of the
only real debate we've seen in the past few years,
which was Gavin Newsom versus Ron DeSantis. Gavin Newsom got
fullaid because he's been protected by the media for so
long that suddenly, when he wasn't able to spread easy,
refutable wise about his uh tenure as governor of California,
(29:38):
DeSantis absolutely destroyed him. And I think that's what should
happen when these ideas end up in the marketplace and
are legitimately debated.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
I also think there was a greater willingness by Democrats
in the media to debate fifteen twenty years ago because
some of their positions were more debatable. Yes, you know
it was. It's it's far less insane if they if
somebody wants to sit down and have an argument with
me over whether the top marginal tax rate should be
(30:09):
forty seven percent instead of I think it's thirty nine
or thirty seven now I can't even remember. But what
just made my taxes whatever it is. You know, there's
an argument, like I would disagree with them, I think
taxes should be lower. But there's an argument. They could say, well,
here's how he would direct the spending. They'd be lying
because the spending never goes what they say. But I'm
just saying, there's an argument you had. When I sit
there and I'm like that guy, he has a penis,
(30:29):
he is a man, and they're like, no, you're a bigot.
What are we even going to talk about? You know
what I'm saying, it's a trans woman. What are we
even going to talk about?
Speaker 3 (30:37):
They don't even argue with you. They immediately go to
personal attack. I've got a funny one that was I
think I sent it to you guys after we went
off the air yesterday and one of the many angry
left wing responses to my jury analysis earlier this week.
I'll share it with you we come back. I think
you'll get a good laugh from it.
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Speaker 3 (32:32):
Off worth noting that the truck trial is not taking
place on Wednesday, but they have now gone out buck
and they have seven different jurors, and maybe in the
(32:54):
next hour we've got limited descriptions of those jurors, some
of them cautiously, maybe some reason for optimism. Again, there's
only a couple of sentence that their sentence is that
they're allowed to give to describe them. But I was
reading last night that seven. It does mean that they're
seeding this jury faster than frankly I thought they would,
(33:16):
because the first day was pretty slow. I didn't think
they would have seven jurors by Tuesday. Telling you, everything
is warp speed when it comes to getting Trump Monday.
It seems likely that we are going to basically get
the rest of the jury seated, and then there's a
decent chance I think the week after that that they
(33:37):
could or maybe they'll start Monday. I don't know's it's moving.
The fact that they got the jury this fast is
kind of stunning to me.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
I'm also coming around more and more to I think
house arrest is where this is heading. If they get
a conviction. I think that's what to try to keep
them off the trail and make him stay up mar
A Lago, because I think their calculation is is then
he's a convicted felon. Again, I'm thinking I'm sitting on
(34:04):
the you know, enemy side of the table here, folks,
that he's uh, he'd be a convicted felon. He's not
in you know, in a prison cell. He'd be in
Trump Tower in New York City. So like, no one's
gonna feel bad for him. He'll be perfectly safe. The
Secret Service will you know, protect him, and but it
would keep him from being able to do what he
needs to do for fundraise, you know what I'm saying, Like,
(34:25):
I think that's.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
The keeps him off the trail in all the Midwest
states where ultimately this election is. I want to ask
Andy that because Also, then I think there's just less
urgency for this thing about you're gonna lock up a
former president and it would be Riker's Island everyone, Okay,
I know New York City. That would be where they
would most likely try to send him, even if it
was for you know, a thirty day stint.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
In the big House. But yeah, I think I think.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Buck, there's a good chance that this thing is still
going to get return overturned on appeal. And we'll ask
Andy about that because it's not just the bookkeeping charge.
It's that it has to be pegged to an additional
crime and the legality that I still question.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
But doesn't the judge. I mean, the judge can decide
whether you're in or out pending appeal right.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
In theory, although usually and again this is a good
question for Andy, when it's not a severe felony, they
would say, Okay, we're going to bring you back and
allow a sentencing to occur. I don't know a month
or two from this event, right, and many normal may
need Yes, normal procedure. I don't think normal procedure unfortunately
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his life. He's been a politician. But what he said
about Caitlin Clark and by what he said, I mean
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