May 4, 2024 • 36 mins
Columbia University negotiating with protesters. GWU requests police clear protesters, D.C. police refuses. UCLA protester says, "We don't like white people." CNN poll: Trump up 6, 9 with other candidates included, but betting markets still slightly favor Biden. Gallup: Biden is least popular president in 70 years. Trump VP candidates: Is Kristi Noem dog story disqualifying?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. I
hope all of you have had fabulous weekends. We are
ready to make sense of the world for all of you.
A lot to discuss. CNN has a poll out that
shows Trump up six forty nine to forty three when
you put in multiple candidates. He's up nine on Joe Biden,
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the largest lead that Trump has ever had in any poll.
CBS News has Trump up in Pennsylvania and also up
in Wisconsin, down a small amount in Michigan. If Trump
wins one of those three battleground states and wins where
he is up in Arizona and Georgia, he would be president.
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But the gambling markets, which I enjoy watching, still have
Biden as a small favorite, and they swung substantially recently.
What's going on there, we'll dive into it. Buck has
broken out puppy to start off the show here in
a desperate effort to win favor. Maybe also not going
(01:07):
to add our ratings in Christy Noam's department there, which
we're gonna have to talk about the dog shooting that
has potentially knocked her out of vice presidential running. I mean,
this is a crazy. I can't believe this is a
real story. We'll talk about that. Buck Ginger not a fan,
fair to say of Christineham.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Was not going to vote for her anyway, but definitely
not a fan.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Now we'll talk about that. But I wanted to start
with this, Buck. I went to Georgia Washington University. It
is a school just down the street from the White House,
about eight blocks away. I went there undergrad. They gave
me a scholarship. I went up there. I loved being
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in DC. Buck, you lived in DC. It's a great town.
This is to me a huge story. And I want
to extend an invite to the president of George Washington University.
I believe her name is Ellen Grandberg. Reports out there.
Fox News led its last hour of programming with it.
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I think this is a really big deal. George Washington's
central campus squad has been taken over by pro Palestinian
if you want to phrase it as that anti Israel protesters.
They have all the tents, everything else, similar to what's
going on at Columbia, at NYU, at UCLA, at USC
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many different places out there. But what's different is, and
I believe you guys in the studio can correct me
if I'm wrong, because you guys are in New York City.
I believe we have a new deadline that has been
extended to the Columbia protesters. It's like you're negotiating with terrorists.
They have to leave the campus by two pm Eastern time.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Have you seen this? I think this is the latest deadline.
But the thing about this is that the the or
else in these situations, and this is this is definitely
a problem as it stands right now for Democrats. Look,
it's almost May, so we're getting into the summer months
pretty quickly for the election, and that means that the time,
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you know, the the timetable is collapsing pretty quickly. If
this continues, though, and I think it will certainly through graduations,
which are now some of them being canceled. What are
they going to do about this? What are what are
the Democrats? What are police forces, police commissioners, mayors of
Democrat cities. There's also a situation clay where the Red
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States are if they have this problem in one of
their Blue Democrat cities handling it, I think far more
adeptly than the Blue States are because the statewide politics
are different. The state House has a different view of it.
That has clearly been the case in Florida. It's been
the case in Texas as well well. And here's the
thing they want exactly what is being threatened. I was
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there at the Occupy Wall Street protests. Not only at
the protests, I was there the night that they broke
up Zukati Park and they sent in the NYPD and
they were you know, pepper spraying and kettling. Kettling is
a process where they kind of rope off a whole
group of people and then they swoop in and make
a whole bunch of arrests. Uh, they did this, And
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the whole point of it is that they get the
video footage, They get the why are you arresting me?
You know, they're screaming. It's like you're being arrested because
you were told one hundred times if you don't leave,
you're going to be arrested. And ultimately, this is where
it crosses over into civil disobedience. This is not a protest. Really,
when you're when you're trespassing, you've gone beyond protest. If
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someone said I'm you know, someone showed up at your house,
Clay and and they decided they were going to just
camp on your front lawn and say I'm just prot testing.
You'd say, no, you're trespassing. You're actually not allowed to
be here. And that's where the crossover is. These are
all on private property. Zukati Park was actually private property
as well, which didn't get enough attention. But nobody wanted
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to be the one to say the cops are going in.
So by breaking an up clay, they give them the
footage they want. They're not going to prosecute them after
breaking it up. What stops these students from coming back
in the discipline has to come from the universities. The
universities don't want to do it.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Okay, So here's the interesting part. You're right, credit to
Brian kemp Ron DeSantis and the governors of many red states.
A lot of these Red states don't even have these
protests springing up where people are taking over the university.
But to me, and Texas governor has done a fabulous
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job as well. But to me, what is super interesting
about the gw situation is there are reports that the
president of George Washington University again Ellen Grandberg, and I
extend further and offer I imagine we have some people
from GW who are listening, grads, administrators, whatnot. I would
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bet you're undercover potentially if you're listening to this show.
But I would bet that there are some listening. She
reportedly requested for the Washington d C. Police to clear
the protesters, and the DC police are refusing to do so.
This to me is a different level because if you
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are asking, hey, these protesters are trespassing, they don't have
the right, They're creating difficulties on campus. We need them cleared,
and the DC police are refusing to do so. This
takes it to the next level because remember Republicans control
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the House and they oversee much of the DC government.
So you already have a situation where crime is out
of control in Washington, d C. But I have not
seen reported yet the idea that a police force would
not comply with a university request. Remember Columbia, the NYPD
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has come in. Now, they came back after to your point,
they arrested a bunch of these people. They brought back tense,
they created a larger encampment, But the New York Police
Department didn't refuse Columbia's requests to come in. At Emery university.
The Atlanta police and the Georgia State troopers didn't refuse
the request to come in. This is a different level.
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Greg Abbott at the University of Texas Austin, the governor
of Texas, he went in and.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Got that area clear too.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
We know what Ron DeSantis has done at Florida State
and at Florida with things that are going on there.
To my knowledge, we have not seen a place police
force refused to comply with the request of a university
to enforce the law and clear the area. And let
me say this, buck h guys, look this up for
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me again. Because the numbers have changed. GW has one
of the largest Jewish populations of any university in the country.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
A lot of my Jewish friends from New York went
to GW actually, so this has been the case for
a long time.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I was there, I had one of my roommates was Jewish.
I felt like everybody when I was there was Jewish.
I mean, we're talking about twenty thirty forty percent of.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
The lot of Tennessee guys there.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Just throw that not I was like the only Tennessee
guy at all of GW. It felt like there weren't
very many Southerners period. I don't know what the enrollment
looks like twenty years later, but it is i think
emblematic of how this woke virus has spread. That we're
not talking about a university that is without a large
Jewish population. The idea that twenty years after I was there,
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you could have Alistinian anti Israel protesters take over one
of the largest Jewish population universities in the country is staggering.
And the fact that the police won't won't do anything
about it.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah is also every one of these schools, by the way,
has a large Jewish contingent. And when you're talking about
the IVY League in the Northeast, they all have substantial
Jewish populations. So that's I think GW may maybe even higher.
But I'm just saying they all have these large Jewish
Jewish student populations, and they have you know, helll House
and different affinity and campus groups and things to give
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some sense of how many students there are on campus
who are Jewish. There's also a lot of Muslim students,
Era and other nationalities represented. But what we see, and
this reminds me of what I said in over the weekend,
is that the entire campus from the professors and the
administrators on down have embraced we we talk about a
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clay in the context of wokeness, it's really anti white
and an anti whiteness is a concept that people are understanding,
seeing more clearly now than they have before. The Supreme
Court obviously saying that you can't use race in college admissions,
they're still all doing it. Can I just know they're
all defying the Supreme Court. And the schools that got
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rid of the SAT to get around it are now
finding well, now we have no idea what kind of
skill level we're letting in here in terms of students
academic skill level, so they're bringing it back. I think
Columbia is actually one of them. I think Columbia got
rid of the SAT and has now bringing all.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Of the schools have brought it back in the IVY
League because they found that it was because they knew
many kids who were disasters.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah. Because I mean, as people have seen famously, some
kid got into Yale and all these IVY schools just
by writing black Lives Matter one hundred times on his
application essay. That seriously happened. I mean, these are that
gives you a sense of how much these are temples
of leftist lunacy. But my pointier Clay, is the administration,
the faculty take this anti whiteness, and if you really
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get into this with the left wing lexicon, the way
they approached this, they'll say that you know that whiteness,
They'll say, well, what is you know? Whiteness? And they
have all these conversations around it where it's almost a
belief system and not a skin color because there are
a lot of so you sort of subscribe to white ideology.
And this is confusing and contradictory because it is I
(11:23):
just want to be clear, it's not this doesn't make sense,
but just because somebody believes something doesn't mean it has
to make sense. So they have all this anti whiteness
on campus, and we need to, you know, confront white
supremacy and the history of all this stuff. And there
was just one moment there was a protester over the weekend,
where was this guys I forget? I actually I was
the one who said in this clip, Emory, is this
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the guy getting I think? You know?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Well, there's multiple viral viral protesters who got arrested. One
was Emory that I saw, which was amazing, but this
may be different. This is the one where the woman says,
we don't want white people here. Oh you didn't say yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
This is three. This, this is three play cut three.
We don't like white people, Free Palestine. You're a white person.
We don't like white people. Get out of your white person,
Free Palestine. This is a summary of what we've been
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telling you the whole time. This is why people who
know nothing about the Middle East nothing, and we could
spend a whole time. I could I spend years of
my life, over a decade of my life just steeped
in the Middle East. They know nothing, but they know
that they're supposed to not like white people. They know
they think that Israel and Jews are all white. And
that is how in case you can't see it at home,
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And I'm just basing it on the skin color of
the speaker. The woman who's saying we don't like white people,
get out of here, Free Palestine is white. So this
is this sort of this brings you full circle. That's
where they things are now. You're not welcome here, white person.
According to the white person, this campus stuff is actually
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much closer to BLM than people realize. It is American
race politics playing out through the prism of a Mideast
land and religious conflicts stretching back for a very long time.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Twenty eight percent of the student body at GW is Jewish.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
For the percentages out there hire than I actually even
thought to be honestly, that's so.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
That's twenty eight percent three thousand undergrad students, and it's
one of the largest Jewish populations out there.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
It says Bu.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Nyu, Tulane and GW are the four highest private school
with GW with Jewish populations, so one of the highest
percent nationally.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
So for a school to be almost thirty percent Jewish
is about fifteen x the general population.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
So contemplate that in the context of what that is
like for students on campus to have. If it's thirty
percent Jewish, the campus being taken over by anti Israel
protesters is impactful at a school like GW on a
level that's different than almost anywhere else. And the police
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are refusing to.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Clean it out.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
I mean, if you're a Jewish, you can't even walk
through the quad without people chanting that Israel is committing genocide.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I got to tell you, I think that I understand
at some level where the cops are coming from on this,
because yeah, no they should. It's a rule of law issue.
They should deal with this. But I can understand their mentality,
which is, does anyone think that Muriel Bowser's administration in
DC is going to back the cops up if some
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if some woman is caught on camera, you know, screaming
and they all flail about. It's like the cops have
been telling you they're going to do right.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I'll go even further. I think it's the mayor's office
telling the police not to do it. Well, that's that's
very I think these are related situations. What I'm saying
is if they actually cleared it out and there were
a couple of videos of protesters face planning, these commies
in the quad cops, they'll get left high and dry.
So in a sense, the mayor I kind of see
(15:12):
how all this plays together. It's lawlessness, but when you
see the politics behind it. But don't worry, everybody, you're
all going to be safer because they're planning to lock
Trump up for a.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
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Speaker 2 (17:06):
Welcome back in Clay and Buck here eight hundred two
eight two eight a two. On those phone lines, we're
talking about these crazy protests and what is going on
with them. We've also got a short, a brief pause
here in the madness in New York City pertaining to
Trump's trial, which is still going on. I don't know
if you saw Clay. There was a NYU professor who's
(17:28):
a former assistant district attorney in New York. We're in
not bad today about how important the New York trial is,
and it's just it's laughable. It's it's you look at
people you're like, this is this is a litmus test.
You are a fraud or an imbecile if you say
that what's going on in New York City as a
function of law and justice as anything other than an
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Speaker 1 (18:56):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Okay, I
mentioned this off the top of the program. CNN has
Trump up six forty nine, forty three up nine with
multi candidate poll. That's Jill Stein RFK Junior. We'll see
how many of those people end up on different ballots. Also,
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CBS had a poll with Trump up in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin,
down a small amount in Michigan. Okay, do you were
now basically to May Wednesday? We're going to enter into May.
The idea Biden has been spending money like crazy. They said, Oh,
he was amazing in the State of the Union. He
(19:39):
got a bounce. That does not seem to be the case.
Trump is presently on trial in New York City. It
seems quite clear that that New York City case is
not moving the needle substantially so far. In any kind
of direction. Trump up six, up nine, multi candidate up
in two of the three Midwest Big ten battleground states Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Do you buy it? Buck?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Do you think that right now this is the biggest
lead Trump has ever had in the CNN poll? He's
benefiting according to the CNN poll, with everybody of the
opinion that Bidenomics is a disaster, but also that people
are remembering the Trump era more fondly. There's a nostalgia
aspect that seems to be benefiting Trump, notwithstanding what happened
(20:30):
with COVID.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Do you buy it? Do you think Trump's up nationwide
right now? All the numbers, even when you contextualize them,
when you cross reference them, Yes, everything points in the
direction of Trump is out ahead. We understand that we're
only a few laps into a much longer race here
with this election cycle, but we're discussing where we are
(20:53):
right now. A lot of things can change. Biden as
the least popular president in seventy years. You might have
seen that one over the weekend too. He is less
popular at this point in his presidency than Nixon or
Carter were. So that's in a new poll that came
out over the weekend. So when you're talking about if
(21:15):
you can get a poll to say you're the worst,
let me mention Matt too. By the way, that's gallup.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
They've been doing this poll for everybody all the way
back you said, seventy years. So this is not some
random like we're pulling this out of thin air. They've
been doing this pole for seventy years, and no one's
ever done worse than Biden.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
And I would sit here and just point out what
exactly is the what is the calling card of the
Biden administration at this point? What is the Biden administration
other than I'm not Trump. Trump is Hitler and of democracy.
We know all of that stuff, and unfortunately that's worked
for them up to this point. But maybe they are
(21:53):
starting to run out of steam on that, at least
as it pertains to swing voters, swing state voters, independence
more right leaning Democrats. People have just started to realize
what has Biden done for us? All the stuff about unemployment,
all the things that they try to point to as
I mean GDP. The GDP numbers that came out were
just really bad, by the way, which is a very
(22:16):
negative indicator. They have not tamed inflation, which is why
rates are still very high, which creates all kinds of
challenges in the real estate market and in investing and
for all of us. Right it's it's a drag on
the stock market, it's a drag on future economic growth
and just overall prosperity. There is nothing that Biden can
point because Biden is a jackass and always has been.
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None of this is surprising. Democrats knew that Biden was
a joke until he was their only option, and they
dusted them off in twenty twenty and they're like, see,
during a pandemic, we can make anybody president. Well, just
because you can doesn't mean you should. And I think
they're finding out the should part of it. So that's
on the Biden pulling side of it. Also, some new
(23:00):
polling out about Trump VP candidates. You are still on
the in the Tim Scott camp, I am still thinking
it will be. And when I say in camp, he
still thinks that Tim Scott's the likeliest, and the betting
markets I know reflect that I think jd Vance is
very likely. And actually I'm starting to think more and
more Marshall Blackburn could get into the mixture. Higher. I'm
(23:23):
just I'm just saying. I know.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
There's a big piece on jd Vance on the front
page of the Sunday New York Times that said that
he is a legit VP pick, which is your guy?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
As you said, saying it all along list makes a lot
of sense. He appeals to those you know, russ Belt
and Midwest voters, and Trump likes him, and Trump wants
somebody that he likes to hang out with. As I
understand it, he likes to be around, doesn't want somebody
who feels like he's the dean in the high school.
Which my understanding is how even before things went awry
(23:54):
with Pence, there was a little bit of that feeling
going on. One person though, who's had a tough VP
go is Christino. Now, I actually did not mean to
start out the show with For those who watch on
claybluck dot com VIPs, you can see with Ginger on
my lap, she was just being a little bit of
a She can be a little bit of a princess sometimes.
(24:14):
I love dogs. I always have. I've loved them since
I was a little kid. I find them incredibly important
and amazing, and one of my favorite things in life
is dogs to be honest with you, So I don't
want to. I want to let you. I'm gonna let
you go first. Just soever knows the story. Christinaoam wrote
a book. The book is out, and in the book,
(24:37):
she describes taking a dog hunting. I forget the breed
of the dog. She says she is frustrated with the
dog because he wasn't doing good job, and that she
quote hated the dog. And then when it when she
brought it home, it attacked the neighbor's chickens. Now, this
is a bird dog, which is meant to go after birds.
So it attacked the neighbors chickens. And she got fed
(24:57):
up and she took it to a gravel pit and
she shot her her eighteen month old dog, and killed it.
I'm gonna play you go first, because I'm I'm we're
not allowed to curse on radio, right, you go ahead.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
I just look at it as a if you write,
if you really want to be a president or vice president,
and you write in your autobiography in sort of a
braggadocious way about how tough you are that you shot
a dog, I don't think at all it makes you
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more likable, and we were just referencing the political the
political mischieving design alone alone should be disqualifying. That's and
that's where I was going to focus to start with,
is just how do you think that this improves your likability,
which we've talked a lot about with Trump's VP. You
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mentioned Tim Scott is the favorite right now on poly market.
Tim Scott is the favorite. I think he's going to
be the pick elist. Stephonic is in second place. Jade
Vance tied in third with Nicki Haley. Interestingly enough, we
haven't heard a lot about Nicki Haley recently. Ben Carson,
Marco Rubio DeSantis at four percent way down the list,
(26:15):
but we need to talk about DeSantis and Trump meeting
in Miami. That's kind of for several hours, is the report.
At some point during the show, Christine Oam was the
favorite for a long time. She now is like eight
or nine on the list, and she basically I think
has eliminated herself from vice presidential contention with this story.
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I'm talking purely politics. Now, you've got the dog on
your lap right now. You are a mega dog lover,
as a huge percentage of this audience is when you
hear that she shot a dog.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Is it just an end for you?
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Like you wouldn't vote for her for anything at this
point when she's bragging about having done this, I disqualifying.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Absolutely disqualifying and for me, borderline psychopathic, absolutely unacceptable. And
I mean I understand people say, well, like if you
know what about pigs on a farm, you eat them
and everything else. You develop a bond and you are
responsible for a dog and it has a role in
your life. And if the dog is I actually I
have a good friend who's a just a loves to
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go duck hunting and pheasant hunting all the time. He
had the same problem. This happened a couple of years ago,
the same problem dog just the dog just won't hunt, right,
I mean that's a phrase people use, that dog won't hunt.
He had a dog that wouldn't hunt and was a
behavior problem. It could happen. You know what he did
with the dog. He didn't take it to a gravel
pit and execute it. He found a single mom who
he knew was a friend of his, whose little boy
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had always wanted a dog, and gave him the dog.
And they loved the dog and now it's their family dog.
Like to go shoot the dog because you're angry. I
don't know. Am I missing something? If somebody, if I
saw somebody, they said, oh yeah, you know, sorry, I'm sorry,
I'm late to dinner. But like my labrador was acting up,
so I took him out back with a forty five
and shot him in the head. I'd be like, I
(28:06):
don't want to be anywhere near you. You're a psycho?
Am I missing something? Maybe I'm missing something. And the
notion that she's doubling down on this, I mean, you know,
some people might have noticed character flaws in this individual
a long time ago, but I think now more people
are noticing.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
So I'll read when she posted something, I went and
I just read the comments, and by the way, we'll
open up phone lines.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
I mean, just Trump really want to have a puppy
killer as his VP. I just that's what they're going
to say. And you can say on the right, oh,
like rural America is gonna say that this is different,
because first of all, I don't even think that at all.
I don't think that's true at all. No, but that's
what she's saying. She's saying, I'm talking about what she's saying. Yes,
I saw her tweets, really difficult decisions are made at
a farm. I know farmers, I know hunters. I have
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never met a person who executed a fourteen month old
dog because it wasn't good enough at hunting and went
and killed the chicken. Chickens are for food. Didn't it
wasn't It wasn't a danger to people. And even if anyway,
I don't know, I'm sitting here, let me know if
I'm wrong, someone let me know. Eight hundred and two
A two two eight A two. It was a fourteen
month old wire haired pointer. And not only did she
(29:14):
write about this in her book, which was edited, and
she thought about it wasn't like a radio interview. Now
she's saying, I think that this show is basically what
kind of tough decision making I do? Really, you know,
you go like like cats on fire too, to show
everybody what a strong stomach you have. Like, I think
it's completely disgraceful and outrageous. And I tried to preface
(29:35):
this before and maybe maybe I'm you know, a little
too fired up about it because I love dogs. Okay, fine,
but I don't think I'm alone the comments. Here's what
she tweeted.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
I can understand why some people are upset about a
twenty year old story of Cricket, one of the working
dogs at our ranch. In my upcoming book, What I
Learned for my years as a public service, the fact
is South Dakota law states dogs who attack and kill
livestock can be put down. Given that Cricket had shown
(30:06):
aggressive behavior toward people by biting them, I decided what
I did. And then she says she doesn't pass the
buck to anybody else. Basically, so, I just when you
write an autobiography, and I've written four books, you're writing
a book right now. There are lots of things that
you put in. There are lots of things that you
take out. If I'm a presidential candidate or a vice
(30:30):
presidential candidate, I don't want my story to be I
shot Old Yeller, you know, Like the saddest book I've
ever read in my life is Where the Red Fern Grows,
which ends with dogs dying.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
If I watched Old Yeller today, and I understand that
there's also this kind of trad right, you know, traditional
right argument of like it's just animals, they're not people,
and people are trying to make this about like our
respect or lack of respectful life, where I'm as pro
life as anybody that has nothing to do with don't
go murder dogs. Like what. People are conflating issues and
they're doing all kinds of.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Well, even if you did it, okay, even if you
did it, I don't think it would be something where
you would say, I mean, it seems to me that
she is saying this story is important because it says
something about me. It says that I'm tough and I'm
willing to make hard choices. Again to your to your
point to me, this is they say, we just had
the NFL Draft, and I know a lot of guys
(31:29):
in the NFL, and we talk about, for instance, drug
testing and they say, you know, drug testing for us
is just a question of intelligence. You can smoke weed.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Back in the day. Are you smart enough to pass
a drug to the dog? No?
Speaker 1 (31:43):
I mean to me, it's a it's an intelligence test
for a politician. If you can't that, you would.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Put on the political malpractice totally on the politics side wound. Yeah, yeah,
like the failing a drug test, is you not smart
enough to make the right choice? And I don't want
to trust you if you put this in your book.
To me, it's a you can't be trusted on the
national stage to know what moves people. Yeah, of course,
(32:13):
of course that's that's.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
To me, Like why this is a political I mean
to me, I'm not even trying to get into the
morality of shooting dogs like it's it's a but the
fact that you would see this and think this is
a story which tells people why I should be trusted
to make hard decisions in politics.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
I think most people.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Say, well, don't shoot a dog like flu For the
people out there who have dogs, I mean, it was
a fourteen.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
First of all, it's a baby. It's like a little
you know, I just want to know, like a puppy.
If it's a puppy, okay, it's it's equivalent of a
dog baby. So if I had a Golden Retriever puppy
that was you know, six or seven months old, and
it you know, just pete in the house too many times?
Do I take my twelve gage out back? And does
that make me a normal person? Would anyone want to
hang out with me if I did that?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
If any oh you did it.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
By the opening argument, you saved Ginger. If we drove
off a cliff into a river. Okay, I don't. I don't.
I do not understand how anybody it's it's my my thing.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Is just even if you did it, would it be
your opening argument on why you should be trusted to
lead America?
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Like I'm willing to kill all we need to. Let's
open the lines on this because I'm on. I don't
know how. I don't know how anyone can see this
any other way, but I know you got to read here.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Yeah, sorry, I'm still fine, Like, I just I it's
it to me is political malpractice? Leaving aside the fact
that it is obviously strikes so many different people as awful.
I'm just, I just it feels like political malpractice to me, Like,
how do you screw this up?
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I don't understand.
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Speaker 2 (35:21):
I think every line right now is let we're kind
of get some of their calls lined up and also
getting a lot of emails in. We're talking VP sweepstakes
on the happy side of things, the normal saying side
of things. Tim Scott number one in the current betting markets.
At least Stephonic very high in the mix there as well.
Jd Vance looking strong. I think an outside chance maybe
(35:45):
for Marshall Blackburn, but it's OUTDAKA. Governor Christy Nome has plummeted.
And I assume that is in response to we can
all assume that is a response to the story we
were talking about having to do with shooting a puppy.
As I say it out loud, shooting a puppy is Yeah,
it's not a good look, certainly not a good look
(36:07):
for your autobiography, as like, look at how tough I am.
I I don't know. It's I can't think of worse
political malpractice at that level in a book than that.
I can't think of one off the top of my head.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Vote for me. I killed old Yeller and I'll do
it again. Does not seem to know.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
No, no, no, hold on Old Yeller was old and
had rabies. This was a fourteen month old puppy. I just,
I look at this stuff. Huella Deville had it right.
I just I don't. I don't understand, dude.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
It's I mean, you know Mitt Romney got got roasted
for driving with the dog on the roof of the car,
and I know in the.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Movie vacation like this is such. It feels like intentional malpractice.
I don't understand it.
Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. I
hope all of you have had fabulous weekends. We are
ready to make sense of the world for all of you.
A lot to discuss. CNN has a poll out that
shows Trump up six forty nine to forty three when
you put in multiple candidates. He's up nine on Joe Biden,
(00:25):
the largest lead that Trump has ever had in any poll.
CBS News has Trump up in Pennsylvania and also up
in Wisconsin, down a small amount in Michigan. If Trump
wins one of those three battleground states and wins where
he is up in Arizona and Georgia, he would be president.
(00:46):
But the gambling markets, which I enjoy watching, still have
Biden as a small favorite, and they swung substantially recently.
What's going on there, we'll dive into it. Buck has
broken out puppy to start off the show here in
a desperate effort to win favor. Maybe also not going
(01:07):
to add our ratings in Christy Noam's department there, which
we're gonna have to talk about the dog shooting that
has potentially knocked her out of vice presidential running. I mean,
this is a crazy. I can't believe this is a
real story. We'll talk about that. Buck Ginger not a fan,
fair to say of Christineham.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Was not going to vote for her anyway, but definitely
not a fan.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Now we'll talk about that. But I wanted to start
with this, Buck. I went to Georgia Washington University. It
is a school just down the street from the White House,
about eight blocks away. I went there undergrad. They gave
me a scholarship. I went up there. I loved being
(01:52):
in DC. Buck, you lived in DC. It's a great town.
This is to me a huge story. And I want
to extend an invite to the president of George Washington University.
I believe her name is Ellen Grandberg. Reports out there.
Fox News led its last hour of programming with it.
(02:12):
I think this is a really big deal. George Washington's
central campus squad has been taken over by pro Palestinian
if you want to phrase it as that anti Israel protesters.
They have all the tents, everything else, similar to what's
going on at Columbia, at NYU, at UCLA, at USC
(02:35):
many different places out there. But what's different is, and
I believe you guys in the studio can correct me
if I'm wrong, because you guys are in New York City.
I believe we have a new deadline that has been
extended to the Columbia protesters. It's like you're negotiating with terrorists.
They have to leave the campus by two pm Eastern time.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Have you seen this? I think this is the latest deadline.
But the thing about this is that the the or
else in these situations, and this is this is definitely
a problem as it stands right now for Democrats. Look,
it's almost May, so we're getting into the summer months
pretty quickly for the election, and that means that the time,
(03:18):
you know, the the timetable is collapsing pretty quickly. If
this continues, though, and I think it will certainly through graduations,
which are now some of them being canceled. What are
they going to do about this? What are what are
the Democrats? What are police forces, police commissioners, mayors of
Democrat cities. There's also a situation clay where the Red
(03:41):
States are if they have this problem in one of
their Blue Democrat cities handling it, I think far more
adeptly than the Blue States are because the statewide politics
are different. The state House has a different view of it.
That has clearly been the case in Florida. It's been
the case in Texas as well well. And here's the
thing they want exactly what is being threatened. I was
(04:07):
there at the Occupy Wall Street protests. Not only at
the protests, I was there the night that they broke
up Zukati Park and they sent in the NYPD and
they were you know, pepper spraying and kettling. Kettling is
a process where they kind of rope off a whole
group of people and then they swoop in and make
a whole bunch of arrests. Uh, they did this, And
(04:30):
the whole point of it is that they get the
video footage, They get the why are you arresting me?
You know, they're screaming. It's like you're being arrested because
you were told one hundred times if you don't leave,
you're going to be arrested. And ultimately, this is where
it crosses over into civil disobedience. This is not a protest. Really,
when you're when you're trespassing, you've gone beyond protest. If
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someone said I'm you know, someone showed up at your house,
Clay and and they decided they were going to just
camp on your front lawn and say I'm just prot testing.
You'd say, no, you're trespassing. You're actually not allowed to
be here. And that's where the crossover is. These are
all on private property. Zukati Park was actually private property
as well, which didn't get enough attention. But nobody wanted
(05:13):
to be the one to say the cops are going in.
So by breaking an up clay, they give them the
footage they want. They're not going to prosecute them after
breaking it up. What stops these students from coming back
in the discipline has to come from the universities. The
universities don't want to do it.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Okay, So here's the interesting part. You're right, credit to
Brian kemp Ron DeSantis and the governors of many red states.
A lot of these Red states don't even have these
protests springing up where people are taking over the university.
But to me, and Texas governor has done a fabulous
(05:51):
job as well. But to me, what is super interesting
about the gw situation is there are reports that the
president of George Washington University again Ellen Grandberg, and I
extend further and offer I imagine we have some people
from GW who are listening, grads, administrators, whatnot. I would
(06:12):
bet you're undercover potentially if you're listening to this show.
But I would bet that there are some listening. She
reportedly requested for the Washington d C. Police to clear
the protesters, and the DC police are refusing to do so.
This to me is a different level because if you
(06:35):
are asking, hey, these protesters are trespassing, they don't have
the right, They're creating difficulties on campus. We need them cleared,
and the DC police are refusing to do so. This
takes it to the next level because remember Republicans control
(06:57):
the House and they oversee much of the DC government.
So you already have a situation where crime is out
of control in Washington, d C. But I have not
seen reported yet the idea that a police force would
not comply with a university request. Remember Columbia, the NYPD
(07:19):
has come in. Now, they came back after to your point,
they arrested a bunch of these people. They brought back tense,
they created a larger encampment, But the New York Police
Department didn't refuse Columbia's requests to come in. At Emery university.
The Atlanta police and the Georgia State troopers didn't refuse
the request to come in. This is a different level.
(07:43):
Greg Abbott at the University of Texas Austin, the governor
of Texas, he went in and.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Got that area clear too.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
We know what Ron DeSantis has done at Florida State
and at Florida with things that are going on there.
To my knowledge, we have not seen a place police
force refused to comply with the request of a university
to enforce the law and clear the area. And let
me say this, buck h guys, look this up for
(08:12):
me again. Because the numbers have changed. GW has one
of the largest Jewish populations of any university in the country.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
A lot of my Jewish friends from New York went
to GW actually, so this has been the case for
a long time.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I was there, I had one of my roommates was Jewish.
I felt like everybody when I was there was Jewish.
I mean, we're talking about twenty thirty forty percent of.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
The lot of Tennessee guys there.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Just throw that not I was like the only Tennessee
guy at all of GW. It felt like there weren't
very many Southerners period. I don't know what the enrollment
looks like twenty years later, but it is i think
emblematic of how this woke virus has spread. That we're
not talking about a university that is without a large
Jewish population. The idea that twenty years after I was there,
(08:59):
you could have Alistinian anti Israel protesters take over one
of the largest Jewish population universities in the country is staggering.
And the fact that the police won't won't do anything
about it.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah is also every one of these schools, by the way,
has a large Jewish contingent. And when you're talking about
the IVY League in the Northeast, they all have substantial
Jewish populations. So that's I think GW may maybe even higher.
But I'm just saying they all have these large Jewish
Jewish student populations, and they have you know, helll House
and different affinity and campus groups and things to give
(09:33):
some sense of how many students there are on campus
who are Jewish. There's also a lot of Muslim students,
Era and other nationalities represented. But what we see, and
this reminds me of what I said in over the weekend,
is that the entire campus from the professors and the
administrators on down have embraced we we talk about a
(09:57):
clay in the context of wokeness, it's really anti white
and an anti whiteness is a concept that people are understanding,
seeing more clearly now than they have before. The Supreme
Court obviously saying that you can't use race in college admissions,
they're still all doing it. Can I just know they're
all defying the Supreme Court. And the schools that got
(10:18):
rid of the SAT to get around it are now
finding well, now we have no idea what kind of
skill level we're letting in here in terms of students
academic skill level, so they're bringing it back. I think
Columbia is actually one of them. I think Columbia got
rid of the SAT and has now bringing all.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Of the schools have brought it back in the IVY
League because they found that it was because they knew
many kids who were disasters.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah. Because I mean, as people have seen famously, some
kid got into Yale and all these IVY schools just
by writing black Lives Matter one hundred times on his
application essay. That seriously happened. I mean, these are that
gives you a sense of how much these are temples
of leftist lunacy. But my pointier Clay, is the administration,
the faculty take this anti whiteness, and if you really
(11:00):
get into this with the left wing lexicon, the way
they approached this, they'll say that you know that whiteness,
They'll say, well, what is you know? Whiteness? And they
have all these conversations around it where it's almost a
belief system and not a skin color because there are
a lot of so you sort of subscribe to white ideology.
And this is confusing and contradictory because it is I
(11:23):
just want to be clear, it's not this doesn't make sense,
but just because somebody believes something doesn't mean it has
to make sense. So they have all this anti whiteness
on campus, and we need to, you know, confront white
supremacy and the history of all this stuff. And there
was just one moment there was a protester over the weekend,
where was this guys I forget? I actually I was
the one who said in this clip, Emory, is this
(11:44):
the guy getting I think? You know?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Well, there's multiple viral viral protesters who got arrested. One
was Emory that I saw, which was amazing, but this
may be different. This is the one where the woman says,
we don't want white people here. Oh you didn't say yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
This is three. This, this is three play cut three.
We don't like white people, Free Palestine. You're a white person.
We don't like white people. Get out of your white person,
Free Palestine. This is a summary of what we've been
(12:25):
telling you the whole time. This is why people who
know nothing about the Middle East nothing, and we could
spend a whole time. I could I spend years of
my life, over a decade of my life just steeped
in the Middle East. They know nothing, but they know
that they're supposed to not like white people. They know
they think that Israel and Jews are all white. And
that is how in case you can't see it at home,
(12:46):
And I'm just basing it on the skin color of
the speaker. The woman who's saying we don't like white people,
get out of here, Free Palestine is white. So this
is this sort of this brings you full circle. That's
where they things are now. You're not welcome here, white person.
According to the white person, this campus stuff is actually
(13:06):
much closer to BLM than people realize. It is American
race politics playing out through the prism of a Mideast
land and religious conflicts stretching back for a very long time.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Twenty eight percent of the student body at GW is Jewish.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
For the percentages out there hire than I actually even
thought to be honestly, that's so.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
That's twenty eight percent three thousand undergrad students, and it's
one of the largest Jewish populations out there.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
It says Bu.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Nyu, Tulane and GW are the four highest private school
with GW with Jewish populations, so one of the highest
percent nationally.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
So for a school to be almost thirty percent Jewish
is about fifteen x the general population.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
So contemplate that in the context of what that is
like for students on campus to have. If it's thirty
percent Jewish, the campus being taken over by anti Israel
protesters is impactful at a school like GW on a
level that's different than almost anywhere else. And the police
(14:14):
are refusing to.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Clean it out.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
I mean, if you're a Jewish, you can't even walk
through the quad without people chanting that Israel is committing genocide.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I got to tell you, I think that I understand
at some level where the cops are coming from on this,
because yeah, no they should. It's a rule of law issue.
They should deal with this. But I can understand their mentality,
which is, does anyone think that Muriel Bowser's administration in
DC is going to back the cops up if some
(14:44):
if some woman is caught on camera, you know, screaming
and they all flail about. It's like the cops have
been telling you they're going to do right.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I'll go even further. I think it's the mayor's office
telling the police not to do it. Well, that's that's
very I think these are related situations. What I'm saying
is if they actually cleared it out and there were
a couple of videos of protesters face planning, these commies
in the quad cops, they'll get left high and dry.
So in a sense, the mayor I kind of see
(15:12):
how all this plays together. It's lawlessness, but when you
see the politics behind it. But don't worry, everybody, you're
all going to be safer because they're planning to lock
Trump up for a.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
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Speaker 2 (17:06):
Welcome back in Clay and Buck here eight hundred two
eight two eight a two. On those phone lines, we're
talking about these crazy protests and what is going on
with them. We've also got a short, a brief pause
here in the madness in New York City pertaining to
Trump's trial, which is still going on. I don't know
if you saw Clay. There was a NYU professor who's
(17:28):
a former assistant district attorney in New York. We're in
not bad today about how important the New York trial is,
and it's just it's laughable. It's it's you look at
people you're like, this is this is a litmus test.
You are a fraud or an imbecile if you say
that what's going on in New York City as a
function of law and justice as anything other than an
(17:51):
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Speaker 1 (18:56):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Okay, I
mentioned this off the top of the program. CNN has
Trump up six forty nine, forty three up nine with
multi candidate poll. That's Jill Stein RFK Junior. We'll see
how many of those people end up on different ballots. Also,
(19:18):
CBS had a poll with Trump up in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin,
down a small amount in Michigan. Okay, do you were
now basically to May Wednesday? We're going to enter into May.
The idea Biden has been spending money like crazy. They said, Oh,
he was amazing in the State of the Union. He
(19:39):
got a bounce. That does not seem to be the case.
Trump is presently on trial in New York City. It
seems quite clear that that New York City case is
not moving the needle substantially so far. In any kind
of direction. Trump up six, up nine, multi candidate up
in two of the three Midwest Big ten battleground states Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Do you buy it? Buck?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Do you think that right now this is the biggest
lead Trump has ever had in the CNN poll? He's
benefiting according to the CNN poll, with everybody of the
opinion that Bidenomics is a disaster, but also that people
are remembering the Trump era more fondly. There's a nostalgia
aspect that seems to be benefiting Trump, notwithstanding what happened
(20:30):
with COVID.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Do you buy it? Do you think Trump's up nationwide
right now? All the numbers, even when you contextualize them,
when you cross reference them, Yes, everything points in the
direction of Trump is out ahead. We understand that we're
only a few laps into a much longer race here
with this election cycle, but we're discussing where we are
(20:53):
right now. A lot of things can change. Biden as
the least popular president in seventy years. You might have
seen that one over the weekend too. He is less
popular at this point in his presidency than Nixon or
Carter were. So that's in a new poll that came
out over the weekend. So when you're talking about if
(21:15):
you can get a poll to say you're the worst,
let me mention Matt too. By the way, that's gallup.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
They've been doing this poll for everybody all the way
back you said, seventy years. So this is not some
random like we're pulling this out of thin air. They've
been doing this pole for seventy years, and no one's
ever done worse than Biden.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
And I would sit here and just point out what
exactly is the what is the calling card of the
Biden administration at this point? What is the Biden administration
other than I'm not Trump. Trump is Hitler and of democracy.
We know all of that stuff, and unfortunately that's worked
for them up to this point. But maybe they are
(21:53):
starting to run out of steam on that, at least
as it pertains to swing voters, swing state voters, independence
more right leaning Democrats. People have just started to realize
what has Biden done for us? All the stuff about unemployment,
all the things that they try to point to as
I mean GDP. The GDP numbers that came out were
just really bad, by the way, which is a very
(22:16):
negative indicator. They have not tamed inflation, which is why
rates are still very high, which creates all kinds of
challenges in the real estate market and in investing and
for all of us. Right it's it's a drag on
the stock market, it's a drag on future economic growth
and just overall prosperity. There is nothing that Biden can
point because Biden is a jackass and always has been.
(22:39):
None of this is surprising. Democrats knew that Biden was
a joke until he was their only option, and they
dusted them off in twenty twenty and they're like, see,
during a pandemic, we can make anybody president. Well, just
because you can doesn't mean you should. And I think
they're finding out the should part of it. So that's
on the Biden pulling side of it. Also, some new
(23:00):
polling out about Trump VP candidates. You are still on
the in the Tim Scott camp, I am still thinking
it will be. And when I say in camp, he
still thinks that Tim Scott's the likeliest, and the betting
markets I know reflect that I think jd Vance is
very likely. And actually I'm starting to think more and
more Marshall Blackburn could get into the mixture. Higher. I'm
(23:23):
just I'm just saying. I know.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
There's a big piece on jd Vance on the front
page of the Sunday New York Times that said that
he is a legit VP pick, which is your guy?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
As you said, saying it all along list makes a lot
of sense. He appeals to those you know, russ Belt
and Midwest voters, and Trump likes him, and Trump wants
somebody that he likes to hang out with. As I
understand it, he likes to be around, doesn't want somebody
who feels like he's the dean in the high school.
Which my understanding is how even before things went awry
(23:54):
with Pence, there was a little bit of that feeling
going on. One person though, who's had a tough VP
go is Christino. Now, I actually did not mean to
start out the show with For those who watch on
claybluck dot com VIPs, you can see with Ginger on
my lap, she was just being a little bit of
a She can be a little bit of a princess sometimes.
(24:14):
I love dogs. I always have. I've loved them since
I was a little kid. I find them incredibly important
and amazing, and one of my favorite things in life
is dogs to be honest with you, So I don't
want to. I want to let you. I'm gonna let
you go first. Just soever knows the story. Christinaoam wrote
a book. The book is out, and in the book,
(24:37):
she describes taking a dog hunting. I forget the breed
of the dog. She says she is frustrated with the
dog because he wasn't doing good job, and that she
quote hated the dog. And then when it when she
brought it home, it attacked the neighbor's chickens. Now, this
is a bird dog, which is meant to go after birds.
So it attacked the neighbors chickens. And she got fed
(24:57):
up and she took it to a gravel pit and
she shot her her eighteen month old dog, and killed it.
I'm gonna play you go first, because I'm I'm we're
not allowed to curse on radio, right, you go ahead.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
I just look at it as a if you write,
if you really want to be a president or vice president,
and you write in your autobiography in sort of a
braggadocious way about how tough you are that you shot
a dog, I don't think at all it makes you
(25:34):
more likable, and we were just referencing the political the
political mischieving design alone alone should be disqualifying. That's and
that's where I was going to focus to start with,
is just how do you think that this improves your likability,
which we've talked a lot about with Trump's VP. You
(25:54):
mentioned Tim Scott is the favorite right now on poly market.
Tim Scott is the favorite. I think he's going to
be the pick elist. Stephonic is in second place. Jade
Vance tied in third with Nicki Haley. Interestingly enough, we
haven't heard a lot about Nicki Haley recently. Ben Carson,
Marco Rubio DeSantis at four percent way down the list,
(26:15):
but we need to talk about DeSantis and Trump meeting
in Miami. That's kind of for several hours, is the report.
At some point during the show, Christine Oam was the
favorite for a long time. She now is like eight
or nine on the list, and she basically I think
has eliminated herself from vice presidential contention with this story.
(26:40):
I'm talking purely politics. Now, you've got the dog on
your lap right now. You are a mega dog lover,
as a huge percentage of this audience is when you
hear that she shot a dog.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Is it just an end for you?
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Like you wouldn't vote for her for anything at this
point when she's bragging about having done this, I disqualifying.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Absolutely disqualifying and for me, borderline psychopathic, absolutely unacceptable. And
I mean I understand people say, well, like if you
know what about pigs on a farm, you eat them
and everything else. You develop a bond and you are
responsible for a dog and it has a role in
your life. And if the dog is I actually I
have a good friend who's a just a loves to
(27:24):
go duck hunting and pheasant hunting all the time. He
had the same problem. This happened a couple of years ago,
the same problem dog just the dog just won't hunt, right,
I mean that's a phrase people use, that dog won't hunt.
He had a dog that wouldn't hunt and was a
behavior problem. It could happen. You know what he did
with the dog. He didn't take it to a gravel
pit and execute it. He found a single mom who
he knew was a friend of his, whose little boy
(27:45):
had always wanted a dog, and gave him the dog.
And they loved the dog and now it's their family dog.
Like to go shoot the dog because you're angry. I
don't know. Am I missing something? If somebody, if I
saw somebody, they said, oh yeah, you know, sorry, I'm sorry,
I'm late to dinner. But like my labrador was acting up,
so I took him out back with a forty five
and shot him in the head. I'd be like, I
(28:06):
don't want to be anywhere near you. You're a psycho?
Am I missing something? Maybe I'm missing something. And the
notion that she's doubling down on this, I mean, you know,
some people might have noticed character flaws in this individual
a long time ago, but I think now more people
are noticing.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
So I'll read when she posted something, I went and
I just read the comments, and by the way, we'll
open up phone lines.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
I mean, just Trump really want to have a puppy
killer as his VP. I just that's what they're going
to say. And you can say on the right, oh,
like rural America is gonna say that this is different,
because first of all, I don't even think that at all.
I don't think that's true at all. No, but that's
what she's saying. She's saying, I'm talking about what she's saying. Yes,
I saw her tweets, really difficult decisions are made at
a farm. I know farmers, I know hunters. I have
(28:51):
never met a person who executed a fourteen month old
dog because it wasn't good enough at hunting and went
and killed the chicken. Chickens are for food. Didn't it
wasn't It wasn't a danger to people. And even if anyway,
I don't know, I'm sitting here, let me know if
I'm wrong, someone let me know. Eight hundred and two
A two two eight A two. It was a fourteen
month old wire haired pointer. And not only did she
(29:14):
write about this in her book, which was edited, and
she thought about it wasn't like a radio interview. Now
she's saying, I think that this show is basically what
kind of tough decision making I do? Really, you know,
you go like like cats on fire too, to show
everybody what a strong stomach you have. Like, I think
it's completely disgraceful and outrageous. And I tried to preface
(29:35):
this before and maybe maybe I'm you know, a little
too fired up about it because I love dogs. Okay, fine,
but I don't think I'm alone the comments. Here's what
she tweeted.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
I can understand why some people are upset about a
twenty year old story of Cricket, one of the working
dogs at our ranch. In my upcoming book, What I
Learned for my years as a public service, the fact
is South Dakota law states dogs who attack and kill
livestock can be put down. Given that Cricket had shown
(30:06):
aggressive behavior toward people by biting them, I decided what
I did. And then she says she doesn't pass the
buck to anybody else. Basically, so, I just when you
write an autobiography, and I've written four books, you're writing
a book right now. There are lots of things that
you put in. There are lots of things that you
take out. If I'm a presidential candidate or a vice
(30:30):
presidential candidate, I don't want my story to be I
shot Old Yeller, you know, Like the saddest book I've
ever read in my life is Where the Red Fern Grows,
which ends with dogs dying.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
If I watched Old Yeller today, and I understand that
there's also this kind of trad right, you know, traditional
right argument of like it's just animals, they're not people,
and people are trying to make this about like our
respect or lack of respectful life, where I'm as pro
life as anybody that has nothing to do with don't
go murder dogs. Like what. People are conflating issues and
they're doing all kinds of.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Well, even if you did it, okay, even if you
did it, I don't think it would be something where
you would say, I mean, it seems to me that
she is saying this story is important because it says
something about me. It says that I'm tough and I'm
willing to make hard choices. Again to your to your
point to me, this is they say, we just had
the NFL Draft, and I know a lot of guys
(31:29):
in the NFL, and we talk about, for instance, drug
testing and they say, you know, drug testing for us
is just a question of intelligence. You can smoke weed.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Back in the day. Are you smart enough to pass
a drug to the dog? No?
Speaker 1 (31:43):
I mean to me, it's a it's an intelligence test
for a politician. If you can't that, you would.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Put on the political malpractice totally on the politics side wound. Yeah, yeah,
like the failing a drug test, is you not smart
enough to make the right choice? And I don't want
to trust you if you put this in your book.
To me, it's a you can't be trusted on the
national stage to know what moves people. Yeah, of course,
(32:13):
of course that's that's.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
To me, Like why this is a political I mean
to me, I'm not even trying to get into the
morality of shooting dogs like it's it's a but the
fact that you would see this and think this is
a story which tells people why I should be trusted
to make hard decisions in politics.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
I think most people.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Say, well, don't shoot a dog like flu For the
people out there who have dogs, I mean, it was
a fourteen.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
First of all, it's a baby. It's like a little
you know, I just want to know, like a puppy.
If it's a puppy, okay, it's it's equivalent of a
dog baby. So if I had a Golden Retriever puppy
that was you know, six or seven months old, and
it you know, just pete in the house too many times?
Do I take my twelve gage out back? And does
that make me a normal person? Would anyone want to
hang out with me if I did that?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
If any oh you did it.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
By the opening argument, you saved Ginger. If we drove
off a cliff into a river. Okay, I don't. I don't.
I do not understand how anybody it's it's my my thing.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Is just even if you did it, would it be
your opening argument on why you should be trusted to
lead America?
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Like I'm willing to kill all we need to. Let's
open the lines on this because I'm on. I don't
know how. I don't know how anyone can see this
any other way, but I know you got to read here.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Yeah, sorry, I'm still fine, Like, I just I it's
it to me is political malpractice? Leaving aside the fact
that it is obviously strikes so many different people as awful.
I'm just, I just it feels like political malpractice to me, Like,
how do you screw this up?
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
But I can also tell you. You want to be
able to preserve your family memories. I was out over
the weekend, actually, and I was talking with somebody, uh
at a at an event, and UH and she was
talking about how she had so many old memories of
her self playing basketball back in the day she was
college basketball player. She said, you know what, A bunch
(34:05):
of those games are now on VHS tapes. And she said,
I listened to your show and I heard you talking
about Legacy Box, and it makes so much sense what
they do.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
I want to preserve all my old games.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
How many of you out there have seen this Beckham
documentary that recently came out on Netflix?
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Really good.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
His dad said he had fourteen hundred tapes of his
son playing soccer growing up. Fourteen hundred. That's a crazy number,
but all of it's disintegrating. That's why you can use
a Legacy Box. They got a great offer right now
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(34:46):
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Speaker 3 (35:05):
Sometimes all you can do is laugh, and they do
a lot of it with the Sunday Hangs.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
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Speaker 2 (35:21):
I think every line right now is let we're kind
of get some of their calls lined up and also
getting a lot of emails in. We're talking VP sweepstakes
on the happy side of things, the normal saying side
of things. Tim Scott number one in the current betting markets.
At least Stephonic very high in the mix there as well.
Jd Vance looking strong. I think an outside chance maybe
(35:45):
for Marshall Blackburn, but it's OUTDAKA. Governor Christy Nome has plummeted.
And I assume that is in response to we can
all assume that is a response to the story we
were talking about having to do with shooting a puppy.
As I say it out loud, shooting a puppy is Yeah,
it's not a good look, certainly not a good look
(36:07):
for your autobiography, as like, look at how tough I am.
I I don't know. It's I can't think of worse
political malpractice at that level in a book than that.
I can't think of one off the top of my head.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Vote for me. I killed old Yeller and I'll do
it again. Does not seem to know.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
No, no, no, hold on Old Yeller was old and
had rabies. This was a fourteen month old puppy. I just,
I look at this stuff. Huella Deville had it right.
I just I don't. I don't understand, dude.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
It's I mean, you know Mitt Romney got got roasted
for driving with the dog on the roof of the car,
and I know in the.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Movie vacation like this is such. It feels like intentional malpractice.
I don't understand it.
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