May 7, 2024 • 37 mins
Our favorite data nerd, Ryan Girdusky, of the National Populist Newsletter and founder of the 1776 Project PAC, joins Clay and Buck to discuss the latest election data, especially the dichotomy of Rust Belt vs. Sun Belt. Trump attorneys ask for mistrial after Stormy Daniels testimony, judge denies requests, but acknowledges issues with her testimony. Trump blasts trial in Truth Social post. Every day it becomes more possible Trump could avoid conviction in Bragg case. Jen Psaki hopes: Maybe Trump will just die. Boy Scouts changes name after 114 years.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Ooh, welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate
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(01:06):
I say this finally, one of our favorite data nerds
out there.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Ryan.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I think the last time we had you on was
a couple of months ago, if I remember correctly, and
you were at that point, yeah, long silence. You are
at that point becoming somewhat increasingly optimistic on Trump's chances
to win the race. So let me start with you
right now, since we last talked to you, as we
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sit here almost exactly six months out, how would you
assess this Trump versus Biden race? Are you still optimistic
on Trump's side? What has the data shown you in
the last two months or so?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Well?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
So I write this in the National Populist newsletter on
sub sec my National Populist newsletter, and he wants to subscribe.
There's basically a dichotomy of two conflicting regions of the country,
the Sun Belt and the Ross Belt. That's really we're
almost all of our swing states preside in one of
those two regions. The sun Belt is everything below the
thirty sixth parallel, so basically Tennessee, Oklahoma, Arizona, and below.
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And they include swing states or traditional swing states like Florida,
North Carolina, now Texas which is pretty much a swing state,
and Arizona and Nevada. What we've seen in the Sun
Belt is those states Trump has a very healthy margin
outside the margin error in most polls. Florida and Texas
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are way beyond the margin era. They're almost in double
digit territory, and even in North Carolina is basically there.
Trump is pulling about five points even in Nevada, Arizona,
and Georgia. Trump's lead in Arizona is about four points,
in Georgia is three point seven, and Nevada is three
point five. What's more interesting, if you look at it,
(02:54):
is where the averages have been for so long. This
isn't a new thing. Trump has has led in Georgia
since October, He's led in North Carolina since last August,
and he's been that way with Arizona and Nevada since November.
So this has been six straight months about lots of
news stories of lots of different headlines, and lots of
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money by the Biden administration Democratic Party being put into
these states that have had a little impact. Members have
moved out point in Biden's favor, but not enough to
sit there and move them out of the margin of error.
Then there's the Rust Belt. The russ Belt is places
mostly three big states, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan. Trump has
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been leading in the Ross Belt in all those areas,
but by very very small numbers, by a point a
point and a half to two and a half points
in Michigan. That is not a safe place to be now.
That is remarkably better than he was in in twenty
sixteen and twenty twenty, when state polling was very off
in twenty sixteen and somewhat off in twenty twenty. But
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Trump has got much more to has a lot more
work to do in the Midwest that is older and
whiter than he does in the Sunbelt, which is younger
and more diverse, and that will be the deciding factor
in this upcoming election.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Hey, Ryan, it's buck. Where do you think that Democrats
believe their best shots at taking swing states? We all
know what those swing states are. Where do they think
they have their best shot? You believe based on the
polling and the data you can see.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Well, absolutely, Pennsylvania is very, very very important, Michigan, especially
with Robert F. Keunty Junior making the ballot in Michigan
and Wisconsin, those three places because they have while they
have a huge working class white population. There is a
very very very small Latino population, and as Latinos are
re orienting themselves, much like white voters did in the
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nineteen seventies and nineteen eighties, were conservative whites were no
longer voting Democrats, they were voting Republican for president. We're
seeing a lot of that among Latinos, where conservative Latinos
who traditionally vote Democrats are voting more and more Republican.
They don't have He does not have that boost. It's
going to be completely among college educated whites and working
class whites. And the thing that Trump has. Trump has
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the numbers right now working in his favor. But the
people who vote often and vote continuously, especially college educated whites,
are very, very heavily in Joe Biden's camp. And that
is how Joe Biden could lose the entire Sunbelt, all
the swing states and the Sun Belts and still win
the presidency if he manages to hold on to enough
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working class whites and college educated whites. Pew Research in
their exit polls of twenty twenty, twenty seven percent of
all Biden voters were non college educated whites. That's a lot.
That is the second largest part of his coalition outside
of college educated whites. So these are tens of millions
of people that should be Republican, that would be Republican
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that positive for grabs if they try to appeal to them,
and that would be the main priority I think of
the Trump campaign.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
All right, this is a super nerd question. But correct
me if I'm wrong on the math. Here we are potentially,
if Biden were to hold on to the Midwest. Let's
say he won Wisconsin, Let's say he won Michigan, and
he won Pennsylvania. Based on what you're saying, rust Belt
versus Sun Belt, if Trump flipped Georgia, if he flipped Nevada,
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and if he flipped Arizona, it would come down potentially
to a two sixty nine to two sixty nine tie.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
If he wins the sun Belt loses the Rust Belt,
depending on what would happen in the Omaha Nebraska congressional seat,
the way that they divide out things in.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yes, that's correct.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, because because would win Trump would win if this
got tossed into the House of Representatives, tied up at
two sixty nine, and by the way, that's not a
crazy result based on polling right now, right, they if.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
But the thing is that Republicans have to hold the
House because what happens is not the old Congress votes
for the new Congress does so if Republicans.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
But it's by state.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Sorry to nerd out even more, but it's by state
delegation right, not necessarily control of the House. And I
believe Republicans would be favored to still have more states.
But I mean, this is this is how tight end
could be.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Not yes, it's it is a yes. That is one
potential depending how swing states in places like Michigan, Arizona,
Pennsylvania go where the majority of members could be Democrat
or Republican from either which state it is potential It
is possible. But yeah, that would mean like places like
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North Carolina and Georgia with Deute Vudding Republican. But there
are a number of swing states which would draw the
majority of the delegation being Democratic Republican in critical battlegrounds
in Arizona, Pennsylvania, Michigan, so we'd have to wait and
see Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
We're speaking to Ryan Gardowsky, National Populist Newsletter is his
sub stack. Go subscribe to it. Ryan. How's the money
game looking right? Now as I understand it, the RNC
has started out in a rough spot this year in
terms of cash on hand, but has been really ramping
up fundraising successfully ramping it up recently. What can you
(08:26):
tell us about about how that component of it is
lining up right now as we get closer to this,
I mean, Lard.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Trump had really done a number of good work when
it comes She's definitely not spending money like Roni McDaniel was,
which is a good thing. And she's been increasing in
her fundraising efforts. And the main job of the RNC
is too fundraised, the same job with the DNC. One
of the big problems for Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen
was the DNC was functionally bankrupt when she took it
all when when she became the party's nominee Obama really
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didn't fundraise very well for whatsoever. But the problem that
the RNC is having right now, the Republicans are having
right now, is that the state parties, which were ones
very strong in a number of states, are extremely weak.
The Michigan State Party, the Arizona State Party, they are
in terrible shape a number of them. And the reliance
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on state parties to sit there and move the needle
which was intro it was so important in twenty sixteen,
is not available today. I'll say on part of us.
In twenty sixteen, in Ohio, the state party was so
well run, but do check I think ran at that point.
But it was so well run that on election day
of twenty sixteen and their early get up the vote plan,
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by noon they had stopped using any resources in Ohio
and shifted everything to Michigan. And Michigan obviously was won
by I think less than half a point, but by
the Ohio GOP saying we have this election of the bag,
we won it, let's move all of our resources to
Michigan was so important to helping flip that state and
mobilize low propensity voters and getting them out to vote.
(10:02):
Ohio still is a very good state party. Other states, though,
do not, and those resources are very very badly needed
when it comes to helping elect people and helping elected president,
so Johnald Trumps. The one thing that the RNC and
the Trump campaign have not done is they do not
have a lot of state offices or local offices as
(10:22):
of yet, and Biden has a number. That doesn't mean
a lot necessarily because Trump had very few in sixteen
and Biden had almost none in twenty. But in title
races that get out the vote effort does mean a lot.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Ryan In sixteen we saw Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan all
go for Trump. In twenty we saw them all go
for Biden.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Do you believe that it's likely that all three of
those states go the same direction in twenty four, either
for Biden or for Trump?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Part one, Part two? If you were analyzing this from
Trump's perspective, do you believe that mission Michigan may be
based on the Israel and Palestine situation, has moved more
than Pennsylvania or Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
If Trump were gonna win one of those three, which
one or maybe ranked them in likelihood of winning, do
you think it's different than in sixteen and twenty Well,
one of.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
The big problems in twenty four Republicans was the Green
Party was not qualified on the ballot in either Wisconsin, Arizona,
or Georgia. They'd all been thrown off the ballot, and
had the Green Party performed equally as well in any
of those states as they did in the neighboring state,
the election would have been different. Now the Green Party,
as I understand it is on the ballot in all
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of those states. So a really hardcore progressive, which is
Jill Stein, who's campaigning on a pro Palestinian message, in
a pro Gaza statehood message, is on the ballot all
those places. So that may make up a big thing.
RFK Junior I believe is on the ballot in Georgia
and Michigan. I'm not so sure what Arizona as of yet.
That will make up a certain differences that those states
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really swung in twenty sixteen was there was a proportion
of the population, specifically white college educated and a non
college educated who genuinely hated Hillary Clinton and couldn't And
I portioned the black population by the who hated Hillary
Clinton either wouldn't turn out for her, or when they did,
they voted for Gary Johnson or Jill Stein. In twenty sixteen,
that hatred did not happen in twenty twenty. They didn't
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feel the same thing for Joe Biden. So although Trump
improved his performance among non college educated whites by a
point from sixty four to sixty five percent nationwide, the
percentage of the five or six percent that had sat
out or had voted for a third party came to
Joe Biden, and that's where the margin made the difference.
The margin was smaller because a lot of people who
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sat out third party had come home to the Democratic Party.
Now that six seven percent still exists today, they may
set out again. They may sit there and vote for
Joe Biden, or they may vote third party. Trump should
make a real appeal to the voters because non college
educated voters one they have. The economy is hurting them
(13:06):
the most too. They are the most fragile from mass
immigration as far as their jobs go. Conversations over AI
replacing their jobs is power amount that no one's really
talking about yet. And I'll put up one other last thing.
There is a huge population in this country that live
in mobile home communities that are being increasingly purchased by
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large companies that are displacing millions upon millions of people,
are threatening to displace millions upon millions of people. That's
a real conversation. And mobile home societies communities rather are
very large in swing states in this country. Their biggest
I think are Florida, North Carolina, Nevada, Arizona. I think
those are the top four. So that's a very very
important democratic Speaking to working class white voters right now
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is critical in the same way that he attempted to
black voters in twenty twenty talking about the Platinum Plan.
There should be a plan for the white working class
Americans who feel completely unrecognized, and I think speaking to
them is critical at this moment when six or seven
percent of their vote easily swing one way or the other.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Ryan or Dusky, everybody check out National Populist newsletter on substack. Ryan,
keep your phone handy. We're gonna talk to you. This
gets closer, by the way. Do you think Trump is
still winning two months ago? You said yes, just yes
or no? Would he win if the election were today
based on your analysis?
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Yes, yes, absolutely, yes as today.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
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We got updates here on Clay and Buck. About the trial,
I can't even say it. It's not the trial of century.
I don't even know if it's the trial of the month.
(15:35):
It's kind of a wampwomp of a trial. It's not
very interesting, but it's crazy and unjust and wrong and
harming any faith that we have in certainly the legal
system in New York State and New York City. We'll
give you the updates. Though Judge Deni's mistrial request, Stormy
Daniels got into the details of her alleged tryst with Trump,
(16:00):
and yeah, I'm not surprised that there was no mistrial
granted here that would be a pretty monumental moment for
Judge Marshawn. But Clay, it seemed, even in the denial
of the request, that there's been some admission that, yeah,
the Stormy Daniels just got into some salacious nonsense has
(16:22):
nothing to do with what the actual issue is at hand. Like,
if this is about misrepresenting a business record, why do
we need to know anything about this? Yeah, it's a
great question.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I'm reading from Caitlin Collins, who was at CNN from
her Twitter feed. She's in the courtroom after returning from launch.
Trump's attorneys asked for a mistrial. Quote a lot of
the testimony this witness, meaning Stormy Daniels, talked about today
way different than the story she was peddling in twenty sixteen.
(16:52):
Trump's attorney Todd Blanche says merchand in ruling on this
request for a mistrial, said something interesting. Again, this is
according to Kaitlyn Collins, I do think there are some
things that would have been better left unsaid. Having said that,
I don't believe we're at a point where a mistrial
(17:14):
is warranted. This is surprising to me because effectively he's
acknowledging that she said some things that should not have
been permitted permitted in this court testimony that the jury heard.
Some of you out there may be saying, Okay, what's
the impact of that. This is how the Harvey Weinstein
case got tossed. There was a determination by the Court
(17:37):
of Appeals that witnesses testified to matters that they should
not have been allowed to testify to, and as a result,
the entire case had to be tossed. Now, hopefully, if
you're a Trump side here, they did a decent job
of objecting to this because that would preserve their appeals. Again,
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Speaker 2 (19:01):
Couple of things, a little bit of fireworks from the
Trump trial underway right now. Trump has also posted in
the last during the lunch break.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
I believe, of course he has. Of course, yes, this
is going to be another gag order violation which is
going to dare Judge Merchand to decide what he's going
to do. This witch hunt is false, ancient history that
was fully adjudicated by the voters in the twenty sixteen
presidential election. It only has to do with election interference
(19:33):
and trying to help Crooked Joe Biden get elected because
he can't do it by himself. It's a vicious attack
by the Soros back da Alvin Bragg in strict coordination
with the DOJ and the White House on Biden's political
opponent me. It is illegal, unconstitutional, and strictly third world country.
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All caps on that final sentence and Stormy Daniels is
soon going to be subject to cross examination, and remember Buck,
I do think we should mention this to Trump's point
on his attorneys saying that she has testified today different
than what she has said in prior stories. She previously
(20:20):
signed a letter that said as follows, to whom it
may concern. This was in January of twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Over the past few weeks, I've been asked countless times
to comment on reports of an alleged sexual relationship I
had with Donald Trump many, many, many years ago. The
fact of the matter is each party to this alleged
affair denied its existence in two thousand and six, eleven, sixteen, seventeen,
and now again in twenty eighteen. I am not denying
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this affair because I was paid quote hush money, as
has been reported in overseas.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Owned time tabloids.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
I am denying this affair because it never happened. I
will have no further comment on this matter. Please feel
free to check me out on Instagram at the Stormy
Daniels Thank You. This is an official statement of Stormy
Daniels that was dated January thirtieth of twenty eighteen. So
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she has made so many different statements about this over
the years that even if you are inclined to believe her,
you have to choose which of the many different stories
do you want to actually believe. And so all of
this is a all of this is just a cavalcade
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of absurdity, and we'll see again. This is why I'm optimistic,
although it will happen after the trial, I'm optimistic that
this case is actually going to be totally tossed, even
by New York or appellate judges, because I think there
are major issues at play here, and even Justice merchand
(22:08):
Now is saying, hey, there were things that Stormy Daniels
has testified today too that she should not, in his opinion,
have been allowed to testify too, which is sometimes grounds
for tossing any result. Now you talked about this earlier,
the data in terms of gambling markets. Every day a
(22:31):
little bit more money is coming in on the possibility
of this being a mistrial and the fact that this
might not actually even be a conviction in the only
case that is likely to be able to go to
the to go to the jury before we all go
vote as the ultimate jury in November.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Yeah, right, I mean yes, I'm like, is there, Yeah,
I mean, I agree, I can't. Can't. I tell you
that anything that you're saying does not line up with
what I think we're all observing. And I think that
this trial is a sham, it's a farce. It's embarrassing.
It's embarrassing for the city of New York, it's embarrassing
for the state, and it's honestly just embarrassing as Americans
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to watch this play out. It is ethically and intellectually indefensible.
This is not on both sides. This isn't a oh
but maybe kind of sort of. He did something that
we need to be having this trial for. Let's just
all understand every aspect of this has been abused. They
held it until the election year, intentionally to interfere with politics.
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They stacked thirty four counts based off of the repetitions
of a printer with the act of the false business records.
As I've said, this is charging somebody not for marijuana possession,
but charging them for trafficking because they passed a marijuana
cigarette back and forth with one other person ten times.
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Each time is an time. Each time is more weight
added on. It's outrageous, it's a total violation of prosecutorial ethics.
There's nothing here. No one even cares this whole thing.
This is like the Trump tax returns, which we never
hear about. We never talk about this anymore. It was
a fixation of these psychotic libs for years. Oh, we're
(24:21):
gonna see the Trump tax returns, as if like Vladimir
Putin was gonna have some note all Trump, I love you,
I give you billion dollars. Like, the whole thing was insane,
there was nothing in it. They went crazy. Rachel Maddow
built like the biggest MSNBC audience ever, pretending that she had,
you know, the smoking gun on the tax returns. And
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notice how they're not chasened by this at all. There's
no part of them that has any reflection, self reflection,
any sense of wow, maybe we're acting like lunatics. I mean,
this is crazy level stuff. You know, even say I
sent it to you, Clay Yes, or camera the guy
who said it, but he's like, look, you know, guys. Ultimately,
the problem with the Trump is the end of democracy argument,
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which undergirds this whole thing. The whole pitch here for Biden,
why he should win, why they should prosecute Trump is
he's a threat to our entire system. And yet if
anyone just opens their eyes and ears for a day,
they would they can see that Trump was a better
president than Biden. Is the country was in better shape.
(25:26):
Things were going better with Trump in charge than Joe Biden.
So the he's gonna end the world, you know, he's
gonna end the world is insane. We've been through this,
We've already run the experiment once. And the problem Democrats
have is people have now seen what Joe Biden has
to and the Democrats and the system around him have
to offer, and they're saying, yeah, I kind of want
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that Trump got back. That's what's really happening. For all
their whining and winging and crying, that's the fundamental truth
that they cannot escape. Then all this legal stuff is
just it's just noise and obstruction.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Here by the way, speaking of noise and obstruction is
Jen Saki. They're now, i think, starting to recognize that
they could be in trouble in the election, and now
they're just hoping Trump dies. They're just saying, maybe he'll
just die. This is on MSNBC. This is Biden's former
chief White House spokesperson Jensaki.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Listen, I think many of them want to be close
to power. They also assume or have this sot in
their mind that maybe Donald Trump will go away, maybe
he'll go to jail, maybe he will die. Not to
be too morbid, but maybe, I mean, he's not a
young man. I think many of them want to be
close to power. They also assume or have this sot
in their mind that maybe Donald Trump will go away,
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maybe he'll go to jail, maybe he will die.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Not to be too morbid, Okay, maybe he'll just die.
This is where we are now on the flow chart
of cope that continuing on the left as we build
more and more of an argument out there based on
the data you just heard from Ryan Gerdusky that Trump
is likely to win. Let's take a couple of calls.
(27:10):
Buck Curtis in Kentucky. What you got?
Speaker 6 (27:15):
Oh, hey, hey klaiy Buck, how you guys?
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Thanks for calling in.
Speaker 6 (27:21):
I heard you Buck the other day on WHS Terry Miners.
You did pretty good because you got to realize he
does not handle conservatives very well.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
You know, he's an interview Oh he was very nice
the local host. Is he not particularly conservative. No, I
didn't know. I don't know his work. He was a
very gentlemanly fellow, though, and I appreciated the interview.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
He's a longtime guy, so I give him respect, but
he does not really do conservatives very well. So good
job there. I just wanted to say real quick, you
guys are great. Clay, you are like the home run hitter,
passionate sports guy, and you do get a lot of
home run but Clay, Clay's more of the singles hitter.
(28:04):
He's a little more conservative with his views, so that
you all do compliment each other very well. And uh,
but Clay, you got to quit saying that. You got
to quit talking up this Alabama Wisconsin stuff because Alabama
is going to kill Wisconsin and you know it, and
you're patronizing these Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
The game is months away. I'm looking forward to going
to Madison. I've never seen a game. I've heard it's
an amazing place to watch a college football game, and honestly,
Nick Saban's not there anymore. I think Alabama may come
out flat some games this season, but I'm excited to
go see it.
Speaker 6 (28:43):
I do love you guys, just I just wish that
we could get a vice presidential candidate from like Wisconsin
or Michigan or one of these swing states, and quit
worrying about Christy Nolans because she's done.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
That's done.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
Quit worrying about her.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I would like to not talk about it on the
show ever again if we can avoid it. So it
is tough, I would say there is no one that
can help deliver. I don't believe Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, or Michigan
on the Republican side. Now, our buddy Ron Johnson just
one re election in twenty twenty two. The challenge there
(29:22):
is they have a Democrat governments. You can't you can't
have up.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
You can't give up that seat because he would appoint
it that could swing control of the Senate back. And
Ron Johnson is pretty much the only statewide I'm correcting that.
I think right there there are right now everybody.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
State what I would really need john Yeah, what you
would really need if you're looking at it from a
pure and I keep saying that, by the way, thank
you for the for the kind call, sir, thank you
for calling in. I would I would keep in mind
that we need to have a vice president who is
ready to actually take over. Yeah, you know, President Trump,
(29:58):
he might just have a health issue. You know, he's
at an age and again, I know, the guy's super robust.
I think Trump has twenty more years of him. I really,
I really think he's going to live to one hundred.
So I'm not I'm not concerned. But we do have
to look at what the role of a vice president is.
It is to be ready to step in if Trump,
let's say, just had to step down for six months
because he had you know, cancer scare or you know
(30:19):
cancer that he had to not scare, but cancer that
he had to deal with. Right, you need a vice
president who can step in and really do the job.
And you know, so that's a part. Right Usually we
think a vice president says, eh, you know, an advisor,
because we've had very young, healthy presidents stretching back for
a ways now, really going all the way back to
I love Reagan, he was on the older side. So
(30:42):
I do think we have to think of it that way.
And also, the VP, you've got to assume is the
day facto nominee in two years, yeah, two years before
this vice press. So it really does matter. It's not
a secondary consideration, you know, like when when what's your name?
Llary Clinton had I thank you. I was like, it's
(31:04):
a Tim, It's one of the Tim's, Tim Kane. Nobody
even cared because everyone knew that Hillary, you know, you
were there was no way Hillary would come back from
the grave to be president, Like it didn't matter. That's
a little different now because of both of those things,
not just you know, if Trump had to even step
away from the role for a while in two years,
that's the leader of the of the Republican Party de facto.
(31:27):
We come back. The Boy Scouts have decided they have
to remove the word boys from their name. This is
really true. This just happened. Boy Scouts have had a
lot of tumult. You were a boy Scout bucked. How
long were you in the Boy Scouts? Oh, I was
not good. I think a year or two. It was
(31:49):
in New York City. It was a little sad, you know,
Would you guys just go to the Central Petrol Park. Yeah,
They're like, hey, maybe if we take this hot dog
and put it on a stick, we could find a
crawdad in the It's like, you know, we weren't exactly
out in the wild, the wilds of America. My boys did.
I think the oldest did Boy Scouts. I can't remember
(32:10):
if the second oldest did. By the third we were
not in the Boy Scouts. But they're no longer the
Boy Scouts. That's offensive.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
We'll talk about it when we come back, and maybe
they'd still be called the Boy Scouts if there was
a little bit of testosterone still left in the American
body politic. You know, your natural testosterone level begins to
decline when you get outside of your twenties, when you
go into your thirties, forties and on down, and that's
sometimes why you don't feel like you have the same
(32:36):
vim vigor, vitality that you otherwise would, and eventually it
can lead to you being basically a sleepwalking Joe Biden example,
as you slowly stride across the grass and try to
avoid falling all over yourself. I'd like to be able
to give Joe Biden a lot of testosterone. I'd like
to make sure that America had a higher testosterone level.
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Speaker 1 (33:52):
You can see what.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
They're doing to a wonderful organization. The Voice Scouts no
longer called Voice Scouts. They're calling it Scouting America. Now
they have changed the name of the Boy Scouts. Welcome
back everybody to Clay and Book. Very upsetting here, Clay.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
People are saying the Boy Scouts no longer the Boy
Scouts Scouting America. What I mean? What has gone on here?
I will tell you my I don't think I was
a particularly particularly good at the Boy Scouts because, even
at a young age, the prospect of going to some
wilderness area off of I ninety five in New Jersey
(34:32):
and like pretty head bodies. Yeah, pitching a tent on
the ground with like, you know, trucks going by Hong
Khung like it just didn't really excite me. I think
if I lived in other parts of the country would
have been more my speed. Perhaps, But you would think
that the tradition and it seems like such an all
American organization. Uh, and now they have to change the
(34:54):
name of it. What what is the world coming to?
I would like, I've said this for a long time.
I think you and I would be great at this.
I wish we could sit down. Oh wow, they're changing
the name because of bad press from sexual abuse claims.
(35:14):
I get it, but I don't understand how that helps. Yeah,
I don't. I don't understand how that helps either. I don't.
I'm looking at this, I'm like, wait a second. I mean,
I wish that we could sit down on all naming issues.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
Right.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
The Cleveland Indians have to become the Cleveland Guardians. The
Washington Redskins are now the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
That all these different entity that has these kinds of problems,
like changing the name is and first of all, it
makes it seem like the organization was the organization, you know.
I mean there were people that did bad things in
the organ I got to read about the Catholic Church.
Isn't renaming the Catholic Church over alter boy controversies? Right,
there were some awful priests inside of the Catholic Church.
(35:57):
They're not like, hey, let's just rebrand the Catholic I mean,
all of this renaming is such. Do you remember when
they changed the disabled list to the injured list in
Major League Baseball because they said it was offensive. I
want to just negotiate once and for all. No names
will get changed.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Right like you and me, I think could sit on
one side of the table, all of the perpetually aggrieved
and offended people could sit on the others, and let's
just have an actual negotiation decide this forever. There's also
been a whole thing about that now it's inclusive of
the LGBTQ plus and no, no, this that's interesting, Yahoo Knews.
I should have known better. The first thing of the
ap here, there's a whole transformation of the organization. It's
(36:39):
not just because of bad riff. They've transformed the Boy
Scouts into something else.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Yeah, the Scout are not a boy You can be
in the boy Scouts now, which seems that is actually
what is going so that is what is going on here.
Sleeve Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth. E.
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Ooh, welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate
all of you hanging out with us as we roll
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(01:06):
I say this finally, one of our favorite data nerds
out there.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Ryan.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I think the last time we had you on was
a couple of months ago, if I remember correctly, and
you were at that point, yeah, long silence. You are
at that point becoming somewhat increasingly optimistic on Trump's chances
to win the race. So let me start with you
right now, since we last talked to you, as we
(01:32):
sit here almost exactly six months out, how would you
assess this Trump versus Biden race? Are you still optimistic
on Trump's side? What has the data shown you in
the last two months or so?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Well?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
So I write this in the National Populist newsletter on
sub sec my National Populist newsletter, and he wants to subscribe.
There's basically a dichotomy of two conflicting regions of the country,
the Sun Belt and the Ross Belt. That's really we're
almost all of our swing states preside in one of
those two regions. The sun Belt is everything below the
thirty sixth parallel, so basically Tennessee, Oklahoma, Arizona, and below.
(02:10):
And they include swing states or traditional swing states like Florida,
North Carolina, now Texas which is pretty much a swing state,
and Arizona and Nevada. What we've seen in the Sun
Belt is those states Trump has a very healthy margin
outside the margin error in most polls. Florida and Texas
(02:32):
are way beyond the margin era. They're almost in double
digit territory, and even in North Carolina is basically there.
Trump is pulling about five points even in Nevada, Arizona,
and Georgia. Trump's lead in Arizona is about four points,
in Georgia is three point seven, and Nevada is three
point five. What's more interesting, if you look at it,
(02:54):
is where the averages have been for so long. This
isn't a new thing. Trump has has led in Georgia
since October, He's led in North Carolina since last August,
and he's been that way with Arizona and Nevada since November.
So this has been six straight months about lots of
news stories of lots of different headlines, and lots of
(03:15):
money by the Biden administration Democratic Party being put into
these states that have had a little impact. Members have
moved out point in Biden's favor, but not enough to
sit there and move them out of the margin of error.
Then there's the Rust Belt. The russ Belt is places
mostly three big states, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan. Trump has
(03:37):
been leading in the Ross Belt in all those areas,
but by very very small numbers, by a point a
point and a half to two and a half points
in Michigan. That is not a safe place to be now.
That is remarkably better than he was in in twenty
sixteen and twenty twenty, when state polling was very off
in twenty sixteen and somewhat off in twenty twenty. But
(03:57):
Trump has got much more to has a lot more
work to do in the Midwest that is older and
whiter than he does in the Sunbelt, which is younger
and more diverse, and that will be the deciding factor
in this upcoming election.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Hey, Ryan, it's buck. Where do you think that Democrats
believe their best shots at taking swing states? We all
know what those swing states are. Where do they think
they have their best shot? You believe based on the
polling and the data you can see.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Well, absolutely, Pennsylvania is very, very very important, Michigan, especially
with Robert F. Keunty Junior making the ballot in Michigan
and Wisconsin, those three places because they have while they
have a huge working class white population. There is a
very very very small Latino population, and as Latinos are
re orienting themselves, much like white voters did in the
(04:50):
nineteen seventies and nineteen eighties, were conservative whites were no
longer voting Democrats, they were voting Republican for president. We're
seeing a lot of that among Latinos, where conservative Latinos
who traditionally vote Democrats are voting more and more Republican.
They don't have He does not have that boost. It's
going to be completely among college educated whites and working
class whites. And the thing that Trump has. Trump has
(05:11):
the numbers right now working in his favor. But the
people who vote often and vote continuously, especially college educated whites,
are very, very heavily in Joe Biden's camp. And that
is how Joe Biden could lose the entire Sunbelt, all
the swing states and the Sun Belts and still win
the presidency if he manages to hold on to enough
(05:32):
working class whites and college educated whites. Pew Research in
their exit polls of twenty twenty, twenty seven percent of
all Biden voters were non college educated whites. That's a lot.
That is the second largest part of his coalition outside
of college educated whites. So these are tens of millions
of people that should be Republican, that would be Republican
(05:55):
that positive for grabs if they try to appeal to them,
and that would be the main priority I think of
the Trump campaign.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
All right, this is a super nerd question. But correct
me if I'm wrong on the math. Here we are potentially,
if Biden were to hold on to the Midwest. Let's
say he won Wisconsin, Let's say he won Michigan, and
he won Pennsylvania. Based on what you're saying, rust Belt
versus Sun Belt, if Trump flipped Georgia, if he flipped Nevada,
(06:24):
and if he flipped Arizona, it would come down potentially
to a two sixty nine to two sixty nine tie.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
If he wins the sun Belt loses the Rust Belt,
depending on what would happen in the Omaha Nebraska congressional seat,
the way that they divide out things in.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yes, that's correct.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, because because would win Trump would win if this
got tossed into the House of Representatives, tied up at
two sixty nine, and by the way, that's not a
crazy result based on polling right now, right, they if.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
But the thing is that Republicans have to hold the
House because what happens is not the old Congress votes
for the new Congress does so if Republicans.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
But it's by state.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Sorry to nerd out even more, but it's by state
delegation right, not necessarily control of the House. And I
believe Republicans would be favored to still have more states.
But I mean, this is this is how tight end
could be.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Not yes, it's it is a yes. That is one
potential depending how swing states in places like Michigan, Arizona,
Pennsylvania go where the majority of members could be Democrat
or Republican from either which state it is potential It
is possible. But yeah, that would mean like places like
(07:47):
North Carolina and Georgia with Deute Vudding Republican. But there
are a number of swing states which would draw the
majority of the delegation being Democratic Republican in critical battlegrounds
in Arizona, Pennsylvania, Michigan, so we'd have to wait and
see Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
We're speaking to Ryan Gardowsky, National Populist Newsletter is his
sub stack. Go subscribe to it. Ryan. How's the money
game looking right? Now as I understand it, the RNC
has started out in a rough spot this year in
terms of cash on hand, but has been really ramping
up fundraising successfully ramping it up recently. What can you
(08:26):
tell us about about how that component of it is
lining up right now as we get closer to this,
I mean, Lard.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Trump had really done a number of good work when
it comes She's definitely not spending money like Roni McDaniel was,
which is a good thing. And she's been increasing in
her fundraising efforts. And the main job of the RNC
is too fundraised, the same job with the DNC. One
of the big problems for Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen
was the DNC was functionally bankrupt when she took it
all when when she became the party's nominee Obama really
(08:54):
didn't fundraise very well for whatsoever. But the problem that
the RNC is having right now, the Republicans are having
right now, is that the state parties, which were ones
very strong in a number of states, are extremely weak.
The Michigan State Party, the Arizona State Party, they are
in terrible shape a number of them. And the reliance
(09:16):
on state parties to sit there and move the needle
which was intro it was so important in twenty sixteen,
is not available today. I'll say on part of us.
In twenty sixteen, in Ohio, the state party was so
well run, but do check I think ran at that point.
But it was so well run that on election day
of twenty sixteen and their early get up the vote plan,
(09:39):
by noon they had stopped using any resources in Ohio
and shifted everything to Michigan. And Michigan obviously was won
by I think less than half a point, but by
the Ohio GOP saying we have this election of the bag,
we won it, let's move all of our resources to
Michigan was so important to helping flip that state and
mobilize low propensity voters and getting them out to vote.
(10:02):
Ohio still is a very good state party. Other states, though,
do not, and those resources are very very badly needed
when it comes to helping elect people and helping elected president,
so Johnald Trumps. The one thing that the RNC and
the Trump campaign have not done is they do not
have a lot of state offices or local offices as
(10:22):
of yet, and Biden has a number. That doesn't mean
a lot necessarily because Trump had very few in sixteen
and Biden had almost none in twenty. But in title
races that get out the vote effort does mean a lot.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Ryan In sixteen we saw Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan all
go for Trump. In twenty we saw them all go
for Biden.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Do you believe that it's likely that all three of
those states go the same direction in twenty four, either
for Biden or for Trump?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Part one, Part two? If you were analyzing this from
Trump's perspective, do you believe that mission Michigan may be
based on the Israel and Palestine situation, has moved more
than Pennsylvania or Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
If Trump were gonna win one of those three, which
one or maybe ranked them in likelihood of winning, do
you think it's different than in sixteen and twenty Well,
one of.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
The big problems in twenty four Republicans was the Green
Party was not qualified on the ballot in either Wisconsin, Arizona,
or Georgia. They'd all been thrown off the ballot, and
had the Green Party performed equally as well in any
of those states as they did in the neighboring state,
the election would have been different. Now the Green Party,
as I understand it is on the ballot in all
(11:39):
of those states. So a really hardcore progressive, which is
Jill Stein, who's campaigning on a pro Palestinian message, in
a pro Gaza statehood message, is on the ballot all
those places. So that may make up a big thing.
RFK Junior I believe is on the ballot in Georgia
and Michigan. I'm not so sure what Arizona as of yet.
That will make up a certain differences that those states
(12:01):
really swung in twenty sixteen was there was a proportion
of the population, specifically white college educated and a non
college educated who genuinely hated Hillary Clinton and couldn't And
I portioned the black population by the who hated Hillary
Clinton either wouldn't turn out for her, or when they did,
they voted for Gary Johnson or Jill Stein. In twenty sixteen,
that hatred did not happen in twenty twenty. They didn't
(12:24):
feel the same thing for Joe Biden. So although Trump
improved his performance among non college educated whites by a
point from sixty four to sixty five percent nationwide, the
percentage of the five or six percent that had sat
out or had voted for a third party came to
Joe Biden, and that's where the margin made the difference.
The margin was smaller because a lot of people who
(12:46):
sat out third party had come home to the Democratic Party.
Now that six seven percent still exists today, they may
set out again. They may sit there and vote for
Joe Biden, or they may vote third party. Trump should
make a real appeal to the voters because non college
educated voters one they have. The economy is hurting them
(13:06):
the most too. They are the most fragile from mass
immigration as far as their jobs go. Conversations over AI
replacing their jobs is power amount that no one's really
talking about yet. And I'll put up one other last thing.
There is a huge population in this country that live
in mobile home communities that are being increasingly purchased by
(13:27):
large companies that are displacing millions upon millions of people,
are threatening to displace millions upon millions of people. That's
a real conversation. And mobile home societies communities rather are
very large in swing states in this country. Their biggest
I think are Florida, North Carolina, Nevada, Arizona. I think
those are the top four. So that's a very very
important democratic Speaking to working class white voters right now
(13:48):
is critical in the same way that he attempted to
black voters in twenty twenty talking about the Platinum Plan.
There should be a plan for the white working class
Americans who feel completely unrecognized, and I think speaking to
them is critical at this moment when six or seven
percent of their vote easily swing one way or the other.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Ryan or Dusky, everybody check out National Populist newsletter on substack. Ryan,
keep your phone handy. We're gonna talk to you. This
gets closer, by the way. Do you think Trump is
still winning two months ago? You said yes, just yes
or no? Would he win if the election were today
based on your analysis?
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Yes, yes, absolutely, yes as today.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Yes, that's good to hear. We'll talk to you again soon.
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I can't even say it. It's not the trial of century.
I don't even know if it's the trial of the month.
(15:35):
It's kind of a wampwomp of a trial. It's not
very interesting, but it's crazy and unjust and wrong and
harming any faith that we have in certainly the legal
system in New York State and New York City. We'll
give you the updates. Though Judge Deni's mistrial request, Stormy
Daniels got into the details of her alleged tryst with Trump,
(16:00):
and yeah, I'm not surprised that there was no mistrial
granted here that would be a pretty monumental moment for
Judge Marshawn. But Clay, it seemed, even in the denial
of the request, that there's been some admission that, yeah,
the Stormy Daniels just got into some salacious nonsense has
(16:22):
nothing to do with what the actual issue is at hand. Like,
if this is about misrepresenting a business record, why do
we need to know anything about this? Yeah, it's a
great question.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I'm reading from Caitlin Collins, who was at CNN from
her Twitter feed. She's in the courtroom after returning from launch.
Trump's attorneys asked for a mistrial. Quote a lot of
the testimony this witness, meaning Stormy Daniels, talked about today
way different than the story she was peddling in twenty sixteen.
(16:52):
Trump's attorney Todd Blanche says merchand in ruling on this
request for a mistrial, said something interesting. Again, this is
according to Kaitlyn Collins, I do think there are some
things that would have been better left unsaid. Having said that,
I don't believe we're at a point where a mistrial
(17:14):
is warranted. This is surprising to me because effectively he's
acknowledging that she said some things that should not have
been permitted permitted in this court testimony that the jury heard.
Some of you out there may be saying, Okay, what's
the impact of that. This is how the Harvey Weinstein
case got tossed. There was a determination by the Court
(17:37):
of Appeals that witnesses testified to matters that they should
not have been allowed to testify to, and as a result,
the entire case had to be tossed. Now, hopefully, if
you're a Trump side here, they did a decent job
of objecting to this because that would preserve their appeals. Again,
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Speaker 2 (19:01):
Couple of things, a little bit of fireworks from the
Trump trial underway right now. Trump has also posted in
the last during the lunch break.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
I believe, of course he has. Of course, yes, this
is going to be another gag order violation which is
going to dare Judge Merchand to decide what he's going
to do. This witch hunt is false, ancient history that
was fully adjudicated by the voters in the twenty sixteen
presidential election. It only has to do with election interference
(19:33):
and trying to help Crooked Joe Biden get elected because
he can't do it by himself. It's a vicious attack
by the Soros back da Alvin Bragg in strict coordination
with the DOJ and the White House on Biden's political
opponent me. It is illegal, unconstitutional, and strictly third world country.
(19:56):
All caps on that final sentence and Stormy Daniels is
soon going to be subject to cross examination, and remember Buck,
I do think we should mention this to Trump's point
on his attorneys saying that she has testified today different
than what she has said in prior stories. She previously
(20:20):
signed a letter that said as follows, to whom it
may concern. This was in January of twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Over the past few weeks, I've been asked countless times
to comment on reports of an alleged sexual relationship I
had with Donald Trump many, many, many years ago. The
fact of the matter is each party to this alleged
affair denied its existence in two thousand and six, eleven, sixteen, seventeen,
and now again in twenty eighteen. I am not denying
(20:54):
this affair because I was paid quote hush money, as
has been reported in overseas.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Owned time tabloids.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
I am denying this affair because it never happened. I
will have no further comment on this matter. Please feel
free to check me out on Instagram at the Stormy
Daniels Thank You. This is an official statement of Stormy
Daniels that was dated January thirtieth of twenty eighteen. So
(21:21):
she has made so many different statements about this over
the years that even if you are inclined to believe her,
you have to choose which of the many different stories
do you want to actually believe. And so all of
this is a all of this is just a cavalcade
(21:45):
of absurdity, and we'll see again. This is why I'm optimistic,
although it will happen after the trial, I'm optimistic that
this case is actually going to be totally tossed, even
by New York or appellate judges, because I think there
are major issues at play here, and even Justice merchand
(22:08):
Now is saying, hey, there were things that Stormy Daniels
has testified today too that she should not, in his opinion,
have been allowed to testify too, which is sometimes grounds
for tossing any result. Now you talked about this earlier,
the data in terms of gambling markets. Every day a
(22:31):
little bit more money is coming in on the possibility
of this being a mistrial and the fact that this
might not actually even be a conviction in the only
case that is likely to be able to go to
the to go to the jury before we all go
vote as the ultimate jury in November.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Yeah, right, I mean yes, I'm like, is there, Yeah,
I mean, I agree, I can't. Can't. I tell you
that anything that you're saying does not line up with
what I think we're all observing. And I think that
this trial is a sham, it's a farce. It's embarrassing.
It's embarrassing for the city of New York, it's embarrassing
for the state, and it's honestly just embarrassing as Americans
(23:15):
to watch this play out. It is ethically and intellectually indefensible.
This is not on both sides. This isn't a oh
but maybe kind of sort of. He did something that
we need to be having this trial for. Let's just
all understand every aspect of this has been abused. They
held it until the election year, intentionally to interfere with politics.
(23:38):
They stacked thirty four counts based off of the repetitions
of a printer with the act of the false business records.
As I've said, this is charging somebody not for marijuana possession,
but charging them for trafficking because they passed a marijuana
cigarette back and forth with one other person ten times.
(23:59):
Each time is an time. Each time is more weight
added on. It's outrageous, it's a total violation of prosecutorial ethics.
There's nothing here. No one even cares this whole thing.
This is like the Trump tax returns, which we never
hear about. We never talk about this anymore. It was
a fixation of these psychotic libs for years. Oh, we're
(24:21):
gonna see the Trump tax returns, as if like Vladimir
Putin was gonna have some note all Trump, I love you,
I give you billion dollars. Like, the whole thing was insane,
there was nothing in it. They went crazy. Rachel Maddow
built like the biggest MSNBC audience ever, pretending that she had,
you know, the smoking gun on the tax returns. And
(24:42):
notice how they're not chasened by this at all. There's
no part of them that has any reflection, self reflection,
any sense of wow, maybe we're acting like lunatics. I mean,
this is crazy level stuff. You know, even say I
sent it to you, Clay Yes, or camera the guy
who said it, but he's like, look, you know, guys. Ultimately,
the problem with the Trump is the end of democracy argument,
(25:02):
which undergirds this whole thing. The whole pitch here for Biden,
why he should win, why they should prosecute Trump is
he's a threat to our entire system. And yet if
anyone just opens their eyes and ears for a day,
they would they can see that Trump was a better
president than Biden. Is the country was in better shape.
(25:26):
Things were going better with Trump in charge than Joe Biden.
So the he's gonna end the world, you know, he's
gonna end the world is insane. We've been through this,
We've already run the experiment once. And the problem Democrats
have is people have now seen what Joe Biden has
to and the Democrats and the system around him have
to offer, and they're saying, yeah, I kind of want
(25:46):
that Trump got back. That's what's really happening. For all
their whining and winging and crying, that's the fundamental truth
that they cannot escape. Then all this legal stuff is
just it's just noise and obstruction.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Here by the way, speaking of noise and obstruction is
Jen Saki. They're now, i think, starting to recognize that
they could be in trouble in the election, and now
they're just hoping Trump dies. They're just saying, maybe he'll
just die. This is on MSNBC. This is Biden's former
chief White House spokesperson Jensaki.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Listen, I think many of them want to be close
to power. They also assume or have this sot in
their mind that maybe Donald Trump will go away, maybe
he'll go to jail, maybe he will die. Not to
be too morbid, but maybe, I mean, he's not a
young man. I think many of them want to be
close to power. They also assume or have this sot
in their mind that maybe Donald Trump will go away,
(26:46):
maybe he'll go to jail, maybe he will die.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Not to be too morbid, Okay, maybe he'll just die.
This is where we are now on the flow chart
of cope that continuing on the left as we build
more and more of an argument out there based on
the data you just heard from Ryan Gerdusky that Trump
is likely to win. Let's take a couple of calls.
(27:10):
Buck Curtis in Kentucky. What you got?
Speaker 6 (27:15):
Oh, hey, hey klaiy Buck, how you guys?
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Thanks for calling in.
Speaker 6 (27:21):
I heard you Buck the other day on WHS Terry Miners.
You did pretty good because you got to realize he
does not handle conservatives very well.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
You know, he's an interview Oh he was very nice
the local host. Is he not particularly conservative. No, I
didn't know. I don't know his work. He was a
very gentlemanly fellow, though, and I appreciated the interview.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
He's a longtime guy, so I give him respect, but
he does not really do conservatives very well. So good
job there. I just wanted to say real quick, you
guys are great. Clay, you are like the home run hitter,
passionate sports guy, and you do get a lot of
home run but Clay, Clay's more of the singles hitter.
(28:04):
He's a little more conservative with his views, so that
you all do compliment each other very well. And uh,
but Clay, you got to quit saying that. You got
to quit talking up this Alabama Wisconsin stuff because Alabama
is going to kill Wisconsin and you know it, and
you're patronizing these Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
The game is months away. I'm looking forward to going
to Madison. I've never seen a game. I've heard it's
an amazing place to watch a college football game, and honestly,
Nick Saban's not there anymore. I think Alabama may come
out flat some games this season, but I'm excited to
go see it.
Speaker 6 (28:43):
I do love you guys, just I just wish that
we could get a vice presidential candidate from like Wisconsin
or Michigan or one of these swing states, and quit
worrying about Christy Nolans because she's done.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
That's done.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
Quit worrying about her.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I would like to not talk about it on the
show ever again if we can avoid it. So it
is tough, I would say there is no one that
can help deliver. I don't believe Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, or Michigan
on the Republican side. Now, our buddy Ron Johnson just
one re election in twenty twenty two. The challenge there
(29:22):
is they have a Democrat governments. You can't you can't
have up.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
You can't give up that seat because he would appoint
it that could swing control of the Senate back. And
Ron Johnson is pretty much the only statewide I'm correcting that.
I think right there there are right now everybody.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
State what I would really need john Yeah, what you
would really need if you're looking at it from a
pure and I keep saying that, by the way, thank
you for the for the kind call, sir, thank you
for calling in. I would I would keep in mind
that we need to have a vice president who is
ready to actually take over. Yeah, you know, President Trump,
(29:58):
he might just have a health issue. You know, he's
at an age and again, I know, the guy's super robust.
I think Trump has twenty more years of him. I really,
I really think he's going to live to one hundred.
So I'm not I'm not concerned. But we do have
to look at what the role of a vice president is.
It is to be ready to step in if Trump,
let's say, just had to step down for six months
because he had you know, cancer scare or you know
(30:19):
cancer that he had to not scare, but cancer that
he had to deal with. Right, you need a vice
president who can step in and really do the job.
And you know, so that's a part. Right Usually we
think a vice president says, eh, you know, an advisor,
because we've had very young, healthy presidents stretching back for
a ways now, really going all the way back to
I love Reagan, he was on the older side. So
(30:42):
I do think we have to think of it that way.
And also, the VP, you've got to assume is the
day facto nominee in two years, yeah, two years before
this vice press. So it really does matter. It's not
a secondary consideration, you know, like when when what's your name?
Llary Clinton had I thank you. I was like, it's
(31:04):
a Tim, It's one of the Tim's, Tim Kane. Nobody
even cared because everyone knew that Hillary, you know, you
were there was no way Hillary would come back from
the grave to be president, Like it didn't matter. That's
a little different now because of both of those things,
not just you know, if Trump had to even step
away from the role for a while in two years,
that's the leader of the of the Republican Party de facto.
(31:27):
We come back. The Boy Scouts have decided they have
to remove the word boys from their name. This is
really true. This just happened. Boy Scouts have had a
lot of tumult. You were a boy Scout bucked. How
long were you in the Boy Scouts? Oh, I was
not good. I think a year or two. It was
(31:49):
in New York City. It was a little sad, you know,
Would you guys just go to the Central Petrol Park. Yeah,
They're like, hey, maybe if we take this hot dog
and put it on a stick, we could find a
crawdad in the It's like, you know, we weren't exactly
out in the wild, the wilds of America. My boys did.
I think the oldest did Boy Scouts. I can't remember
(32:10):
if the second oldest did. By the third we were
not in the Boy Scouts. But they're no longer the
Boy Scouts. That's offensive.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
We'll talk about it when we come back, and maybe
they'd still be called the Boy Scouts if there was
a little bit of testosterone still left in the American
body politic. You know, your natural testosterone level begins to
decline when you get outside of your twenties, when you
go into your thirties, forties and on down, and that's
sometimes why you don't feel like you have the same
(32:36):
vim vigor, vitality that you otherwise would, and eventually it
can lead to you being basically a sleepwalking Joe Biden example,
as you slowly stride across the grass and try to
avoid falling all over yourself. I'd like to be able
to give Joe Biden a lot of testosterone. I'd like
to make sure that America had a higher testosterone level.
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(33:19):
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Speaker 1 (33:52):
You can see what.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
They're doing to a wonderful organization. The Voice Scouts no
longer called Voice Scouts. They're calling it Scouting America. Now
they have changed the name of the Boy Scouts. Welcome
back everybody to Clay and Book. Very upsetting here, Clay.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
People are saying the Boy Scouts no longer the Boy
Scouts Scouting America. What I mean? What has gone on here?
I will tell you my I don't think I was
a particularly particularly good at the Boy Scouts because, even
at a young age, the prospect of going to some
wilderness area off of I ninety five in New Jersey
(34:32):
and like pretty head bodies. Yeah, pitching a tent on
the ground with like, you know, trucks going by Hong
Khung like it just didn't really excite me. I think
if I lived in other parts of the country would
have been more my speed. Perhaps, But you would think
that the tradition and it seems like such an all
American organization. Uh, and now they have to change the
(34:54):
name of it. What what is the world coming to?
I would like, I've said this for a long time.
I think you and I would be great at this.
I wish we could sit down. Oh wow, they're changing
the name because of bad press from sexual abuse claims.
(35:14):
I get it, but I don't understand how that helps. Yeah,
I don't. I don't understand how that helps either. I don't.
I'm looking at this, I'm like, wait a second. I mean,
I wish that we could sit down on all naming issues.
Speaker 6 (35:28):
Right.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
The Cleveland Indians have to become the Cleveland Guardians. The
Washington Redskins are now the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
That all these different entity that has these kinds of problems,
like changing the name is and first of all, it
makes it seem like the organization was the organization, you know.
I mean there were people that did bad things in
the organ I got to read about the Catholic Church.
Isn't renaming the Catholic Church over alter boy controversies? Right,
there were some awful priests inside of the Catholic Church.
(35:57):
They're not like, hey, let's just rebrand the Catholic I mean,
all of this renaming is such. Do you remember when
they changed the disabled list to the injured list in
Major League Baseball because they said it was offensive. I
want to just negotiate once and for all. No names
will get changed.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Right like you and me, I think could sit on
one side of the table, all of the perpetually aggrieved
and offended people could sit on the others, and let's
just have an actual negotiation decide this forever. There's also
been a whole thing about that now it's inclusive of
the LGBTQ plus and no, no, this that's interesting, Yahoo Knews.
I should have known better. The first thing of the
ap here, there's a whole transformation of the organization. It's
(36:39):
not just because of bad riff. They've transformed the Boy
Scouts into something else.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Yeah, the Scout are not a boy You can be
in the boy Scouts now, which seems that is actually
what is going so that is what is going on here.
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