June 2, 2024 • 38 mins
A sad week for America, but we aren’t giving up. This is about ALL of us.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is twenty four, a weekly highlight reel from the
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show featuring all things the
election coverage. Let's get started. Here are Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Stephen Miller joins us now. He's the founder of America
First Legal. He's also a former senior advisor in the
Trump White House to President Donald J.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Trump.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Steven, if I were trying to pull together a list
of people who could be in the room, so to speak,
with Trump figuring out the next moves, you would certainly
be very high on that list. What now, what do
we need to do? And what do you want to
say to the people across the country who are listening
who just feel like this is an absolute outrage?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Thank you very much for that. And so I'm going
to put on my private citizen slash campaign hat right now,
so I'm talking to you in that capacity, so I
can speak very freely about campaign strategy. There is an
enormous uprising of public anger right now, of course, like
nothing that we have seen in recent memory, as evidenced
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by multiple fundraising sites crashing last night, people pouring out
into the streets of Manhattan, and just anybody who's on
social media and is watching and hearing who is listening.
There's just a massive change in the energy because they've
martyred Donald Trump. They've martyred him where they have turned
the most popular Republican politician in our lifetimes into an
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actual political martyr right, a jailed freedom fighter, a political
dissident being threatened with life behind bars. And anybody who
studied history understands that you have to be incredibly careful
if you're running a fascist movement, as Joe Bido knows,
in making a martyred hero out of your political enemy,
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which is what they have done here. Let's not forget.
Let's be very clear the number three at DOJ personally
hand made into this trial, and that, to be clear,
you don't do that unless you're doing it on behalf
of and for Joe Biden, because number three at DOJ
the top three legal job in all of America. You
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don't go be a line prosecutor unless it's part of
a grander political plan strategy. The question then is what
do you do with all of that anger, that outrage,
and the hijacking of our democracy by a corrupt communist
DA and a corrupt communist Democrat Party. If The strategy
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is just wait intol election day and hope everybody shows
up at the polls. That is a bad strategy. What
needs to happen right now is that the rn C
and the Republican Party need to be finding all of
these what they're called low propensity voters. These are people
who don't vote routinely. They maybe didn't vote in the midterms,
maybe they've only voted in one or two presidential elections
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in the last fifteen twenty years. Finding all these low
propensity voters who are outraged about this verdict and you both.
If they're not registered, you register them, and if registered,
you get them to fill out an application for a
mail and ballot, and then you chase that ballot. You
make sure that ballot gets delivered. There's millions and millions
of people out there who have very rarely or never voted,
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who are with Donald Trump. You will win the election
if you can get a significant portion of those ballots.
But that requires money, and it requires infrastructure, and it
requires physical door to door canvassing. You do those things,
and Joe Biden the Democrat Party aren't going to know
what hit them.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Stephen, I'm angry, and I imagine you are too. But
what I like to say is, anger's not a strategy,
and I love that you just laid out a strategy there.
You've also had a strategy to be filing lawsuits to
go after DEI and other issues immediately after this, I
think this is across the Rubicon moment. Isn't it time
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for Republican county das for attorney generals to make Democrats
feel the pain and understand that if this is their
strategy to go after Donald Trump, he will not be
the first. He is the first, he will not be
the last that they go after in this way. Shouldn't
the same standards be applied If they can go get
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a rig jury in New York City, shouldn't we go
get a rig jury in Alabama or rig jury in
in Idaho or wherever those states are and start to
hold Democrats responsible for the lies that they have told
that are far more significant in nature than anything they've
ever accused Trump of.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Well, I mean, for one thing, Joe Biden is the
world's foremost human trafficker. Joe Biden is important. Actual humanis
ex trafficking rings in the United States that are selling
girls and women into sexual slavery, and that's happening on
a daily basis. I mean, the amount of evil, the
amount of sinister and nick what is conduct that's taking
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place every single day, sanctioned an engineered by the Democratic
Party is beyond calculation. I want to sort of drill
down on the crux of your point. And obviously you
mentioned that that had been very active and filing lawsuits
against the bad guys that are ruining this country for
the last three years now, because that's an essential part
of the answer. So here's here's what's wrong, and here's
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what needs to be fixed. The typical mid career Republican lawyer,
so like, think about like a fifty year old guy,
he's got maybe twenty years left in his career, and
he's say County DA, or he's a guy in a
different administration at Maine Justice, or he is a like
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at number two or a number three in like a
state AG's office. Right, he was raised for a generation
and being taught that the highest virtue for a Republican
attorney is restraint. Restraint, restraint, restraint, restraint. When you have
a radical left bent on demolishing and bulldozing and pulverizing,
you and the opposing force believes that their highest virtue
is to avoid conflict at all costs. This is a
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very predictable end, and it's called the end of a
free society. If you're not as aggressive in defending a
free society as the radical left is in demolishing a
free society, then you will live in tyranny. And it
is just that simple. We've seen it played out throughout
history over and over again. It is no different now.
And so my answer is that Republican das and Republican
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ags need to absolutely be pursuing valid criminal charges against
valid targets, for true and actual crimes that are being
perpetrated against this country on a daily basis. You have
illegal censorship, you have illegal spying, you have I legal
huth in trafficking, you have financial fraud, you have financial crime.
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You have so many targets that you could be going after. Again,
the difference is these aren't hoaxes. These are this is real, substantial,
significant criminal conduct that are taking place on the left.
Look at the Look at the NGOs at the border
that are directly involved in human smuggling, in trafficking. Look
at how many left wing donors are pouring money into
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these organizations, key prominent left wing donors pouring money into
organizations that are facilitating human trafficking. So again, you have
so many targets to go after, but these are legitimate targets.
These are valid targets who are committing actual crimes. So
they go after our innocent people and we don't even
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go after they're guilty people. That's the fundamental problem here
and that's what has to change.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Speaking to Steven Miller, former senior advisor to President Trump,
even between now and the election, and for everyone who's listening,
is what are your words of Consolation? Is certainly not
what I want to go for here, but encouragement get
people fired up, because I think there's a there are
a lot of people who feel a little despondent today
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at what can happen in this country and how ugly
politics has gotten because of these democrats and their hatred
for Trump.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
So what I would say is take a moment, if
you haven't already, take it right now during the commercial break,
and feel sorry for yourself and sorry for your country,
and feel very sad about it. Take a good five
minutes and do that, and then when that's done, decide
what you're going to do about it. If the founding
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generation could shed their blood on the battlefield to give
us a free country, and successive generations could fight against evil,
fascist foreign regimes to preserve that freedom, you can get
out and organize one hundred, two hundred to three hundred
people to register to vote in the next month. If
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people could shed their blood to save this country, you
could become a ballot harvester. You could become a campus
or you can pick up the phone right now, good
to the organization. Good friend of mine, Charlie Kirk, call
his organization today, don't wait until tomorrow. Even pick up
the phone today and say, me and my five best
friends want to join a grassroots army to register a voter,
Tell me where and when to show up. Make a
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decision today that you're going to be part of saving
the country because a lot of people have sacrificed more
than any of us can ever imagine. And of course
you have Donald Trump and his family right now enduring
a gauntlet of fire that if you could also ever
imagine dealing with these criminal trials, these hoax trials, so you,
in your own lives can be part of the solution.
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Make a decision today to turn the tears into action.
Weep for your nation, but then decide now we're going
to save our nation. And if you do that, then
you can stand there on November six and say we
did it. We won yesterday. Now we can save our country.
Now we can get our freedom back, and you'll regret
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it for the rest of your life if you don't
get busy right now.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Really well said, he's Stephen Miller. He would be and
will be a big part of the Trump forty seven team.
We appreciate the time, sir.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
If you're listening to twenty four the Year of Impact
with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Caroline Levitt is with the Trump campaign. She is their spokesperson.
She would have a substantial role in any Trump twenty
twenty four victory, which we are all rooting for. Caroline.
A lot of anger out there, but I actually want
to start with something that was super positive to come
out of this. Already, the Trump campaign says they raised
thirty four point eight million dollars in the immediate aftermath
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of this trial verdict, and twenty nine point seven seven
percent of those dollars were from entirely New donors. What
can you tell us about the unprecedented financial response in
favor of Trump and how have things gone since you
guys put out that press release.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Yes, well, that is one hundred percent right. We are
already seeing this trial, this conviction, this unprecedented witch hunt
backfire on Joe Biden. In the corrupt Democrat party that
brought this case against President Trump. We raised, as you
just said, thirty four point eight million dollars in six
hours from the time the verdicts came down to midnight
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last night. That is how much money we raised from
grassroots patriots across this country who have watched this case
for six weeks and are in shock about what has
become of our justice system in this corrupt regime that
we are living in right now. This is not a
constitutional republic, I hate to break it to your audience.
We are living in a regime that is led by
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people who do not care about our country, do not
care about us. All they care about is power and control.
And that's what we've seen over the last six weeks
take place. And we already saw a poll out this
morning as well that shows President Trump leading Joe Biden
by six points. Already so we know that this thing
will continue to backfire as it has over the last
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six weeks.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Caroline, you have at least between now and July eleventh,
I would assume for President Trump to be pretty free
out on the campaign. Can you give us a sense,
just a preview of now that he doesn't have to
show up in this courthouse every day? What are the
plans like and what's some of the strategy going forward.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Well, we're going to get back on the campaign, true,
we already are. We are going to continue to hold rallies,
We're going to continue to hold events, we are going
to continue to fundraise that you'll see President Trump out
there as he has been. And you know this trial
at the beginning, everyone to know what's going to slow
him down. And sure, yeah, I mean we were confined
into a dirty, disgusting courtroom for more than eight hours
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a day, four days a week. It sucks. I'm not
gonna lie, okay, but guess what. President Trump made the
most of it, and he continued to get out there
and fight, and we held rallies in the Bronx with
twenty five thousand people, a rally in Wildwood, New Jersey,
record breaking one hundred thousand person crowd. President Trump, you know,
going to Bodega's and Harlem, visiting construction workers in Midtown,
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still doing rallies in Pennsylvania and elsewhere, making the most
of the cards he's been dealt. And he's going to
continue to do that, and we'll see him. You will
see him back on the campaign trail very very soon.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Caroline, what can you tell us? We've had Trump on
the program quite a lot over the years, but one
thing that continues to stagger both Buck and and me
is the amount of energy that he has. And really,
I mean, he's seventy seven, having people throw body blows
at him every single day, and he seems just to
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never tire. What is it like for you? I think
you're what twenty six years old? By the way, congrats,
I know you are pregnant, so I imagine that you've
got a little bit on your shoulders as well in
addition to being in the middle of the campaign. But
what can you tell us about the energy and the
will that you see from this guy to be taking
the punches that he does, and the severity of those
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punches and still go out and fight every day.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
It is incredibly inspiring to witness President Trump's resolve and
his determination and his tenacity in the face of unprecedented attacks.
No person, arguably in American history, has been attacked and
smeared and lied about and investigated more than Donald Trump.
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Yet he continues to get up every single day and fight.
And you know, yesterday when the conviction came down, we
all had to sit there. He himself included here the
word thirty four times in a row from a jury
who we knew was not going to be fair, with
a judge sitting in that courtroom smirking, who we know
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is highly conflicted and crooked and partisan, with a case
that was brought by a Democrat prosecutor who hates Donald
Trump and has made that very clear. This thing was
rigged from the beginning. And he had to sit there
and hear guilty thirty four times in a row. And
we walked out of that courtroom in disgust. We were angry,
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we were somber, and we turned to him and he
looked at us and said, I'm going to go to
the cameras and we're going to continue to fight. And
he drove that message and within minutes of hearing that
that's what he did. He addressed the American people and said,
I am doing this for our constitution in our country.
Anyone else facing what Donald Trump has would fold like
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a deck of cards. But he gets up and he
fights again, and it's because he knows he has the
truth on his side, and he knows that he is
the man for the job right now who can fix
this country and all of the crises that Joe Biden
has created. I mean, not only are we witnessing the
abuse of our legal system, we have a wide open
border allowing terrorists and criminals into our country. Our economy
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is in shambles, record high inflation, the worst inflation crisis
in a generation. Hard working Americans can hardly afford to live.
And this is what Crooked Joe and the Democrats are
focused on. It's disgusting, but it fires President Trump up
to fight, and I'm honored to work for him and
call him my boss. And in your audience, every single
person listening to this right now should be honored that
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they have someone in this country who loves them enough
and loves this country enough to go through this. And
we need everyone's support. This guy can't do it alone.
And we need people to continue to donate on our website,
We need people to sign up to volunteer. I mean,
he says it all the time, and it's true. November
fifth is the most important election in our lifetimes. And
if we don't win, America as we know her and
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we love her will cease to exist. And that is
a sad thing to say, but it's true.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Speaking a Caroline Levitt, national press secretary for the Trump campaign,
a Caroline, to that end what you just said, You're
twenty six years old, You're among the most visible people
in this Trump campaign. How do you approach now the
realization that you're not just trying to win a presidential contest,
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which is quite an undertaking in and of itself, but
you your team President Trump are really trying to preserve
the country that we live in.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
It's a challenge, but it's a challenge that we have
to win, and we have a fearless leader in President Trump, who,
like I said, calls the shots and we are here
to execute his mission. And as his spokesperson, it's my
job to go out there and message effectively the message
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that he wants to say. And you know what, it's
easy to do when you have a boss and a
leader who was so fearless, and again who has the
truth on his side and who has the best record
to stand on. I mean, look at what President Trump
accomplished in his first term in office. We had a
secure border, Our Connie was booming. The world feared us
and respected us. He was the first president ever to
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not get us into any new wars. And you look
at the contrast in Joe Biden's America. Our border again
is wide open, economy in shambles, were on the break
of World War Three. I mean, even with all of this,
I would rather be President Trump's spokesperson than Joe Biden's
any day of the week, every day for the rest
of my life. Because President Trump has a record, and
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he has a vision for this country. He has integrity,
he has conviction. Joe Biden is crooked and corrupt, and
he's a liar, and he is the weakest and most
incoonfident at president this country has ever seen.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Caroline, what do you think of roberts in hero.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Well, that was something I'll tell you. We actually got
tipped off by a nice friendly source outside the courthouse
that the Binden campaign was going to be hosting that
press conference, so myself and my colleagues we headed outside
to punch back, of course, in true President Trumps fashion,
and they were teasing a special guest we didn't know
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who was going to be. All of a sudden, we
see sloppy de Niro shuffling out of time.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
I mean, sorry just for you though you're twenty six
when you see Robert Danier, Bucke and Eye were talking
about this, like, if Leonardo DiCaprio rolled up bucket Eye
around the same age would be like, Okay, that guy's
a badass. Like at least he's the best actor right now.
Maybe I wouldn't call him a badass. I would just
say he's famous. But yeah, well I think I think
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Leonardo coll Okay, I think Leonardo DiCaprio is a badass,
even though I think he's crazy on some political issues
in his profession, he's a badass. But Caroline, you're twenty six,
what Robert de Niro's eighty? Did you think it was
kind of like a they hadn't done a press conference
and then they finally he decided to do one. Did
you feel like it was kind of a It felt
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fake to me that they would decide that Robert de
Niro was their leader.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
Well, that's what I mean, it was. It was mind
boggling to see him. He came out of the car
with a maskot. We're all like, is that Robert de Niro?
What the heck are these people doing? And then he
goes on an unhinged tirade about Donald Trump. And you
could see in the Biden staffers' faces, by the way,
that immediately as Deanira started spiraling out of control, they
knew it was a bad idea. I mean, the whole
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thing just looks j Z. It was disastrous. He was
like going after our supporters, pointing his finger in their faces.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Is there any chance in your mind, Caroline that like,
could that have happened without Joe Biden knowing about it
at all? Meaning the approval of de Niro as their spokesman.
Would that just be somebody on the campaign or do
you think that Biden was like, yeah, that'll do, that'll
be the ticket.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Well, look, who knows. I mean, was Biden awake early
enough to approve that? I'm not sure, but certainly it
came you know, his pain knows what they're doing, and
they had said this entire trial. It's not political. We
have nothing to do with it. Their press conference with
Robert de Niro was a concession that they have everything
to do with this trial in this case that has
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been brought forward.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Caroline, fantastic stuff. As always, we will talk to you
again soon. Do you know boy or girl yet? By
the way, on the baby and what's the delivery date?
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yes, I am.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
I'm having a boy, firstborn son. Very excited about it,
and we'll be having him in a few weeks. I'm
like six weeks thousand my due date and I oh, wow,
I'm doing this. Don't know how I'm doing this all,
but we were fighting through. Like you said, we're fighting
fighting for the country and I'm very excited to the boy.
God knows we need more strong men in this country
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and I look forward to raising one.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
That is awesome. Congratulations on the baby. I can't believe
that you are fighting this hard six weeks out from
the due date. That could be, by the way, right
around July fourth, Right, you could have a July fourth birthday.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
I could and it would be very unbranded, very unbrand
for me to have my baby on fourth of July.
Let's see.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Amen.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Good luck. Thank you Caroline.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Thanks guys, we'll talk to you.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
You're listening to twenty four The Most Important Tier in
Politics with Clay Travis send Buck Sexton.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
We can text Trump adjacent people and say, hey, you
want to have the big guy call and talk to us.
He's under gag order still as I understand it, which
is the whole thing is is completely nuts. But this
is what we're dealing with. But if the president were
to decide today, anytime next week, or anytime between now
and the election, that he wants to call in, we
would welcome that and we would want to hear from him.
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So well, we're keeping open that possibility. We just spoke
to my guess what two weeks ago, and now we're
continuing to watch as he speaks out about what has
happened here and how outrageous this is. This is cut five.
We haven't played this one yet, have we about how
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this is? Because you know, fundamentally, I think you're seeing
people who are switching from maybe some when I say people,
I'm talking about some of the voices online, some of
the I don't know, like Nikky Haley primary voters, and
some others who are saying Okay, The stakes here are
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actually even bigger than just whether Donald Trump wins this
election or not. The stakes here go to the very
core of what kind of a country we really live in.
And Donald Trump certainly understands that this is him. This
is cut five explaining what really is at stake here.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Play it.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
I'm out there, and I don't mind being out there
because I'm doing something for this country and I'm doing
something for our constitution.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
It's very important, far.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
Beyond me, and this can't be allowed to happen to
other presidents. It should never be allowed to happen in
the future. But this is far beyond me. This is
bigger than Trump. This is bigger than me. This is
bigger than my presidency. And the people understand it because
I just see a poll just came out the Daily
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Mail that was the first one came out Who's done
last night, right after the verdict, where I'm up six points,
six points from what we already were we were leading
fairly substantially. We're up six points in the.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
Daily Mail poll.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
Now, maybe other polls come out and says something differently,
but a lot of people have predicted it because the
public understands and they understand what's going on.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
Clay.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
The bump in the numbers so far now it's not
really that official. They've got to do some more polling.
But this is what we had anticipated, and to me,
given where they are right now, what they've already done,
the unprecedented nature of this prosecution and now conviction, the
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rigging of the entire system, They're only going to be
doubling and tripling down. This goes to why I think
they might push for an incarceration of Donald Trump. This
is also why I think I know the Supreme Court
isn't going to come back until probably late June, but
Jack Smith is going to, with the help of Judge Chuckkin,
move mountains to try to get that trial started as
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well before the election if possible. Remember if they started
before the election and then Trump doesn't win, they'll settle
it after the election. They will definitely send him to
prison if they can get a conviction on that and
he's not president. I think that goes without saying. So
this is the Biden re election campaign. We are seeing it.
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This is a moment where we have to take stock
of what their plans are. But so far it has
not had the intended effect. I think of turning public
opinion against Trump in the ways that they needed to
to win. But then again, they're cheating, so who knows.
Who knows what's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
I do think what you just hit on is incredibly important.
This matters a great deal. But the reason why the
entire Biden reelection campaign is focused on Trump is because
Biden has failed on inflation. He's failed on the border,
He's failed at keeping us out of war in Europe
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and out of war in the Middle East. He has
failed on crime. He has failed on virtually everything that
all of you care about on a day to day basis.
They can't run on Hey, the economy's amazing because all
of you are paying seven percent mortgage rates right now
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on your thirty year and when he came into office,
if you were fortunate enough to have a mortgage rate
locked up, you got two and a half or three
percent on it. Inflation was one point four percent when
Biden came into office. They do it on a year
by year basis, so they can argue, oh, it's only
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three point four percent now, but you never unring the
inflation bell. You're paying over twenty percent more for everything
than you were before Joe Biden came into office. Groceries, gas,
your fast food, everything that you have to purchase to
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live on on a day to day basis is up
over twenty percent on average, and most of us have
not seen our paychecks grow by over twenty percent. So
you got a default pay decrease from Joe Biden's economic
policies to say nothing. I was talking down here in Florida, Buck.
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A lot of Memphis people come down to this beach
where I am for their summer vacations. I was talking
to a couple from Memphis the other day. They listened
to the show. They said, I couldn't believe when you
and Buck were talking about the Memphis crime rate. Memphis
has more murders now than New York City. There are
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a lot of cities out there, Kansas City, Atlanta, Philadelphia
that don't necessarily get the same attention. People tend to
know what happens in New York City with crime. They
tend to know what happens in la There are a
lot of cities in the middle part of the country
where the crime rate is out of control. Nobody talks
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about it. I just came from Washington d C. Washington,
d C is at a twenty five year high on murder.
A lot of people not talking about this. There is
a deep well of discomfort in this country. And I
think to your point, the reason why the Trump attacks
are not landing is most people have way more serious
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things that they're worried about in their day to day
life than what happens to Donald Trump. But you see
the attack on Trump for what it is, which is
a furtherance on the attack of your way of life
in America. And I take it again, I'm angry, and
you said right off the top, you're angry. We are
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both really angry. Anger's not a strategy. Okay. So I
had this conversation with my sixteen year old last night.
He's just finished his sophomore year in high school. He
was watching the news with me last night and he
couldn't really believe what was going on, and he was angry.
And I said to him, hey, I want you to
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go on graduate from high school, go to college, become
because I think he's got the skill set to do
it a lawyer and fight for the country, to actually
make good decisions in the law. Because a lot of
people throw up their hands and they get frustrated and
they just don't want to engage. I want all of
you to engage legally in a really serious way right now.
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If you can donate money, do it. If you can volunteer, volunteer.
If you can't do either of those things, at least
go vote yourself and buck you know this, Find people
who are persuadable and have conversations with them and persuade them.
There's a lot of people out there, tens of millions
who never vote, and you know how, but they feel
politically but they're just disengaged because they're frustrated. They feel
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like their vote doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Talk to them.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
I would also say that this is a it's a
little bit like how I felt about Masks and Faucci
and all that during COVID. This is a true litmus
test moment. Anybody out there who thinks that what who
thinks that this prosecution in New York City was just
and fair and righteous, is someone whose opinion you cannot
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trust or listen to on any matter of any importance whatsoever.
And in fact, any Demo Democrat who goes along with
this has malicious intent for the United States. I mean,
it is truly undermining and hurting the country. This goes
beyond I disagree with them. This is in a dispute
over you know, how many legal immigrants we should take
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in every year, or what the tax code should be,
or anything like that. This is fundamental stuff. This is
foundational to this republic, and anybody who is cheering this
on is cheering on the destruction of the country that
we live in. That's honestly how I feel about it.
And I don't say that about a lot of things.
I'm not somebody who's prone to talk about, you know,
the other side as as doing irreparable damage to the
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country on a whole range of issues, although sometimes I do.
But on this one, this is actually too far. This
is a moment that people will look back on and
they will say, hopefully, wow, we came close to really
losing something precious in our society. But thank god Trump
won that election. But that's months away and it is
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not a done deal.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
The precedent that could be the history here is Trump
beats Biden, and Democrats go back and they say, trying
to put your chief political adversary in prison during an
election year turns off a huge percentage of the vote
and is a very poor decision because you know what
else could happen. Biden could win, and then people on
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the Democrat side will say, this is our game plan.
It doesn't matter who the Republican is. We'll find and
charge them with a crime somewhere in a blue city,
blue state jurisdiction where we have a rubber stamp jury
and we will put them in prison. And this is
how we win elections. And eventually, do you know what
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that leads to? It leads to totalitarianism because as soon
as you start believing if you lose an election, not
only do you lose an election, but you and your
family go to prison, the stakes get a lot higher.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Well, this is something I know of from you know,
time in the CIA, but also studying how intelligence and
security services work in much of the world. In a
lot of places, there's this there's this death spiral or
freedom that occurs because we're talking about the prosecution and
incarceration of political opponents. Right, yes, well, yeah, that's bad.
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But also then even if somebody who is in power
doesn't want to do that to the other team that's
doing it, they recognize, well, crap, if I lose, They're
going to do it to me. So now I'm justified
in doing whatever i have to do to stay in power.
And I've got to put on the brass knuckles and
I've got to break rules and go to extremes, and
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it just becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. People think, you know, what,
what is the what are the security services? Intelligence services
most focused on a lot of countries. It's actually not
security of like the people. It's the security of the regime.
It is keeping the people.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
In power in power.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
It's not about protecting the general public from external threats
or whatever that It is an obsession in the Middle East,
in Sub Saharan Africa, in Latin America. You know, the
people that are supposed to be monitoring security, they're actually
trying to make sure that the people that are calling
the shots and paying them right now stay calling the
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shots and paying them for the foreseeable right So this
is the consequences of this are truly destabilizing, and it
makes a society that had otherwise been free deteriorate very rapidly.
Because you create a winner take all scenario, right, everything
becomes zero sum. Yes, And you know, I don't see
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how we're not heading toward that. We haven't even talked
about this. The J six case is happening at some
point unless Trump wins and pardons himself. I mean, the
JA six case is going to happen. They're going to
get a guilty verdict on that one, everybody, and they're
going to lock him up. There's no question in my mind.
If they can get the J six case to a
trial to a verdict, he will be convicted in DC,
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and the DC judge will try to lock him up.
Maybe the Supreme Court will intervene. You know, maybe there
are some other things that could happen, but if that
pattern continues, oh, they're absolutely sending him to prison over that,
absolutely no doubt.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
And again it's not ending here because I see some
people say, well, just don't do X or just don't
do HY and you'll be fine. I've never been arrested
in my life. I don't believe I've ever committed a
crime in my life. If the Democrat apparatus decided to
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investigate every tax filing I've ever made, if they decided
to investigate every public statement that I've ever made, they
would charge me with a and that's not me being unique.
Every single one of you, if the Biden Justice Department
will sicked upon you, unless you are Jesus Christ himself.
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They will find something that you have done that violates
the law, and they will charge you and they will
try to put you in prison too. And this is
where Trump is correct when he says it's not just
about me, and I hope he keeps hammering this theme.
The precedent set for what happens to Trump will echo
throughout the ages here, and that's why we have to win,
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and that's why we have to win big.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
You're listening to twenty four the Year of Impact with
Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Wanted to play a cut for you of Rush that
has gone viral that I think a lot of you
will remember. Let's play cut thirty two. This is right
now echoing on the internet. I think many of you
will recall it about Trump list.
Speaker 7 (37:00):
I know they desperately want Trump gone, and I know
that they desperately want it codified that Trump cannot run again,
because make no mistake, they remain scared to death of you,
and they remain scared to death of Trump. Trumps seventy
five million, eighty million votes, and I'm going to tell
you you're not going anywhere even if Trump does. You're
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not you know what you believe, you know what your
vision for the country is. You're not going to give
up on it. You're not going to go packing away.
They believe that they can they can destroy this bond
that exists between you and Trump if they somehow make
Trump look bad, make Trump look like a reprobate, embarrass
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you about Trump. They can't do it because you came
before Trump.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I think that's well said, and many of you will
recall Rush speaking out in that manner. And this is
what's going on, Buck. They're trying to make it unacceptable
to vote for Trump the people that they believe are persuadable.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
And they're also sending a message and they've been doing
this for quite some time now that if you stand
with Trump, they will come after you. Look At what
they're doing to Steve Bannon, who isn't so interesting. R
Chan has a Steve Bannon case in New York too.
Look what they're doing to Alan Weiselberg, the geriatric accountant
who has been sent to Rikers Down. Look what they've
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done to Peter Navarro. They're coming after a lot of
people
This is twenty four, a weekly highlight reel from the
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show featuring all things the
election coverage. Let's get started. Here are Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Stephen Miller joins us now. He's the founder of America
First Legal. He's also a former senior advisor in the
Trump White House to President Donald J.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Trump.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Steven, if I were trying to pull together a list
of people who could be in the room, so to speak,
with Trump figuring out the next moves, you would certainly
be very high on that list. What now, what do
we need to do? And what do you want to
say to the people across the country who are listening
who just feel like this is an absolute outrage?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Thank you very much for that. And so I'm going
to put on my private citizen slash campaign hat right now,
so I'm talking to you in that capacity, so I
can speak very freely about campaign strategy. There is an
enormous uprising of public anger right now, of course, like
nothing that we have seen in recent memory, as evidenced
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by multiple fundraising sites crashing last night, people pouring out
into the streets of Manhattan, and just anybody who's on
social media and is watching and hearing who is listening.
There's just a massive change in the energy because they've
martyred Donald Trump. They've martyred him where they have turned
the most popular Republican politician in our lifetimes into an
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actual political martyr right, a jailed freedom fighter, a political
dissident being threatened with life behind bars. And anybody who
studied history understands that you have to be incredibly careful
if you're running a fascist movement, as Joe Bido knows,
in making a martyred hero out of your political enemy,
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which is what they have done here. Let's not forget.
Let's be very clear the number three at DOJ personally
hand made into this trial, and that, to be clear,
you don't do that unless you're doing it on behalf
of and for Joe Biden, because number three at DOJ
the top three legal job in all of America. You
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don't go be a line prosecutor unless it's part of
a grander political plan strategy. The question then is what
do you do with all of that anger, that outrage,
and the hijacking of our democracy by a corrupt communist
DA and a corrupt communist Democrat Party. If The strategy
(02:40):
is just wait intol election day and hope everybody shows
up at the polls. That is a bad strategy. What
needs to happen right now is that the rn C
and the Republican Party need to be finding all of
these what they're called low propensity voters. These are people
who don't vote routinely. They maybe didn't vote in the midterms,
maybe they've only voted in one or two presidential elections
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in the last fifteen twenty years. Finding all these low
propensity voters who are outraged about this verdict and you both.
If they're not registered, you register them, and if registered,
you get them to fill out an application for a
mail and ballot, and then you chase that ballot. You
make sure that ballot gets delivered. There's millions and millions
of people out there who have very rarely or never voted,
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who are with Donald Trump. You will win the election
if you can get a significant portion of those ballots.
But that requires money, and it requires infrastructure, and it
requires physical door to door canvassing. You do those things,
and Joe Biden the Democrat Party aren't going to know
what hit them.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Stephen, I'm angry, and I imagine you are too. But
what I like to say is, anger's not a strategy,
and I love that you just laid out a strategy there.
You've also had a strategy to be filing lawsuits to
go after DEI and other issues immediately after this, I
think this is across the Rubicon moment. Isn't it time
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for Republican county das for attorney generals to make Democrats
feel the pain and understand that if this is their
strategy to go after Donald Trump, he will not be
the first. He is the first, he will not be
the last that they go after in this way. Shouldn't
the same standards be applied If they can go get
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a rig jury in New York City, shouldn't we go
get a rig jury in Alabama or rig jury in
in Idaho or wherever those states are and start to
hold Democrats responsible for the lies that they have told
that are far more significant in nature than anything they've
ever accused Trump of.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Well, I mean, for one thing, Joe Biden is the
world's foremost human trafficker. Joe Biden is important. Actual humanis
ex trafficking rings in the United States that are selling
girls and women into sexual slavery, and that's happening on
a daily basis. I mean, the amount of evil, the
amount of sinister and nick what is conduct that's taking
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place every single day, sanctioned an engineered by the Democratic
Party is beyond calculation. I want to sort of drill
down on the crux of your point. And obviously you
mentioned that that had been very active and filing lawsuits
against the bad guys that are ruining this country for
the last three years now, because that's an essential part
of the answer. So here's here's what's wrong, and here's
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what needs to be fixed. The typical mid career Republican lawyer,
so like, think about like a fifty year old guy,
he's got maybe twenty years left in his career, and
he's say County DA, or he's a guy in a
different administration at Maine Justice, or he is a like
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at number two or a number three in like a
state AG's office. Right, he was raised for a generation
and being taught that the highest virtue for a Republican
attorney is restraint. Restraint, restraint, restraint, restraint. When you have
a radical left bent on demolishing and bulldozing and pulverizing,
you and the opposing force believes that their highest virtue
is to avoid conflict at all costs. This is a
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very predictable end, and it's called the end of a
free society. If you're not as aggressive in defending a
free society as the radical left is in demolishing a
free society, then you will live in tyranny. And it
is just that simple. We've seen it played out throughout
history over and over again. It is no different now.
And so my answer is that Republican das and Republican
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ags need to absolutely be pursuing valid criminal charges against
valid targets, for true and actual crimes that are being
perpetrated against this country on a daily basis. You have
illegal censorship, you have illegal spying, you have I legal
huth in trafficking, you have financial fraud, you have financial crime.
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You have so many targets that you could be going after. Again,
the difference is these aren't hoaxes. These are this is real, substantial,
significant criminal conduct that are taking place on the left.
Look at the Look at the NGOs at the border
that are directly involved in human smuggling, in trafficking. Look
at how many left wing donors are pouring money into
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these organizations, key prominent left wing donors pouring money into
organizations that are facilitating human trafficking. So again, you have
so many targets to go after, but these are legitimate targets.
These are valid targets who are committing actual crimes. So
they go after our innocent people and we don't even
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go after they're guilty people. That's the fundamental problem here
and that's what has to change.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Speaking to Steven Miller, former senior advisor to President Trump,
even between now and the election, and for everyone who's listening,
is what are your words of Consolation? Is certainly not
what I want to go for here, but encouragement get
people fired up, because I think there's a there are
a lot of people who feel a little despondent today
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at what can happen in this country and how ugly
politics has gotten because of these democrats and their hatred
for Trump.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
So what I would say is take a moment, if
you haven't already, take it right now during the commercial break,
and feel sorry for yourself and sorry for your country,
and feel very sad about it. Take a good five
minutes and do that, and then when that's done, decide
what you're going to do about it. If the founding
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generation could shed their blood on the battlefield to give
us a free country, and successive generations could fight against evil,
fascist foreign regimes to preserve that freedom, you can get
out and organize one hundred, two hundred to three hundred
people to register to vote in the next month. If
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people could shed their blood to save this country, you
could become a ballot harvester. You could become a campus
or you can pick up the phone right now, good
to the organization. Good friend of mine, Charlie Kirk, call
his organization today, don't wait until tomorrow. Even pick up
the phone today and say, me and my five best
friends want to join a grassroots army to register a voter,
Tell me where and when to show up. Make a
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decision today that you're going to be part of saving
the country because a lot of people have sacrificed more
than any of us can ever imagine. And of course
you have Donald Trump and his family right now enduring
a gauntlet of fire that if you could also ever
imagine dealing with these criminal trials, these hoax trials, so you,
in your own lives can be part of the solution.
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Make a decision today to turn the tears into action.
Weep for your nation, but then decide now we're going
to save our nation. And if you do that, then
you can stand there on November six and say we
did it. We won yesterday. Now we can save our country.
Now we can get our freedom back, and you'll regret
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it for the rest of your life if you don't
get busy right now.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Really well said, he's Stephen Miller. He would be and
will be a big part of the Trump forty seven team.
We appreciate the time, sir.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
If you're listening to twenty four the Year of Impact
with Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Caroline Levitt is with the Trump campaign. She is their spokesperson.
She would have a substantial role in any Trump twenty
twenty four victory, which we are all rooting for. Caroline.
A lot of anger out there, but I actually want
to start with something that was super positive to come
out of this. Already, the Trump campaign says they raised
thirty four point eight million dollars in the immediate aftermath
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of this trial verdict, and twenty nine point seven seven
percent of those dollars were from entirely New donors. What
can you tell us about the unprecedented financial response in
favor of Trump and how have things gone since you
guys put out that press release.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Yes, well, that is one hundred percent right. We are
already seeing this trial, this conviction, this unprecedented witch hunt
backfire on Joe Biden. In the corrupt Democrat party that
brought this case against President Trump. We raised, as you
just said, thirty four point eight million dollars in six
hours from the time the verdicts came down to midnight
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last night. That is how much money we raised from
grassroots patriots across this country who have watched this case
for six weeks and are in shock about what has
become of our justice system in this corrupt regime that
we are living in right now. This is not a
constitutional republic, I hate to break it to your audience.
We are living in a regime that is led by
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people who do not care about our country, do not
care about us. All they care about is power and control.
And that's what we've seen over the last six weeks
take place. And we already saw a poll out this
morning as well that shows President Trump leading Joe Biden
by six points. Already so we know that this thing
will continue to backfire as it has over the last
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six weeks.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Caroline, you have at least between now and July eleventh,
I would assume for President Trump to be pretty free
out on the campaign. Can you give us a sense,
just a preview of now that he doesn't have to
show up in this courthouse every day? What are the
plans like and what's some of the strategy going forward.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Well, we're going to get back on the campaign, true,
we already are. We are going to continue to hold rallies,
We're going to continue to hold events, we are going
to continue to fundraise that you'll see President Trump out
there as he has been. And you know this trial
at the beginning, everyone to know what's going to slow
him down. And sure, yeah, I mean we were confined
into a dirty, disgusting courtroom for more than eight hours
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a day, four days a week. It sucks. I'm not
gonna lie, okay, but guess what. President Trump made the
most of it, and he continued to get out there
and fight, and we held rallies in the Bronx with
twenty five thousand people, a rally in Wildwood, New Jersey,
record breaking one hundred thousand person crowd. President Trump, you know,
going to Bodega's and Harlem, visiting construction workers in Midtown,
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still doing rallies in Pennsylvania and elsewhere, making the most
of the cards he's been dealt. And he's going to
continue to do that, and we'll see him. You will
see him back on the campaign trail very very soon.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Caroline, what can you tell us? We've had Trump on
the program quite a lot over the years, but one
thing that continues to stagger both Buck and and me
is the amount of energy that he has. And really,
I mean, he's seventy seven, having people throw body blows
at him every single day, and he seems just to
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never tire. What is it like for you? I think
you're what twenty six years old? By the way, congrats,
I know you are pregnant, so I imagine that you've
got a little bit on your shoulders as well in
addition to being in the middle of the campaign. But
what can you tell us about the energy and the
will that you see from this guy to be taking
the punches that he does, and the severity of those
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punches and still go out and fight every day.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
It is incredibly inspiring to witness President Trump's resolve and
his determination and his tenacity in the face of unprecedented attacks.
No person, arguably in American history, has been attacked and
smeared and lied about and investigated more than Donald Trump.
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Yet he continues to get up every single day and fight.
And you know, yesterday when the conviction came down, we
all had to sit there. He himself included here the
word thirty four times in a row from a jury
who we knew was not going to be fair, with
a judge sitting in that courtroom smirking, who we know
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is highly conflicted and crooked and partisan, with a case
that was brought by a Democrat prosecutor who hates Donald
Trump and has made that very clear. This thing was
rigged from the beginning. And he had to sit there
and hear guilty thirty four times in a row. And
we walked out of that courtroom in disgust. We were angry,
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we were somber, and we turned to him and he
looked at us and said, I'm going to go to
the cameras and we're going to continue to fight. And
he drove that message and within minutes of hearing that
that's what he did. He addressed the American people and said,
I am doing this for our constitution in our country.
Anyone else facing what Donald Trump has would fold like
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a deck of cards. But he gets up and he
fights again, and it's because he knows he has the
truth on his side, and he knows that he is
the man for the job right now who can fix
this country and all of the crises that Joe Biden
has created. I mean, not only are we witnessing the
abuse of our legal system, we have a wide open
border allowing terrorists and criminals into our country. Our economy
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is in shambles, record high inflation, the worst inflation crisis
in a generation. Hard working Americans can hardly afford to live.
And this is what Crooked Joe and the Democrats are
focused on. It's disgusting, but it fires President Trump up
to fight, and I'm honored to work for him and
call him my boss. And in your audience, every single
person listening to this right now should be honored that
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they have someone in this country who loves them enough
and loves this country enough to go through this. And
we need everyone's support. This guy can't do it alone.
And we need people to continue to donate on our website,
We need people to sign up to volunteer. I mean,
he says it all the time, and it's true. November
fifth is the most important election in our lifetimes. And
if we don't win, America as we know her and
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we love her will cease to exist. And that is
a sad thing to say, but it's true.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Speaking a Caroline Levitt, national press secretary for the Trump campaign,
a Caroline, to that end what you just said, You're
twenty six years old, You're among the most visible people
in this Trump campaign. How do you approach now the
realization that you're not just trying to win a presidential contest,
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which is quite an undertaking in and of itself, but
you your team President Trump are really trying to preserve
the country that we live in.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
It's a challenge, but it's a challenge that we have
to win, and we have a fearless leader in President Trump, who,
like I said, calls the shots and we are here
to execute his mission. And as his spokesperson, it's my
job to go out there and message effectively the message
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that he wants to say. And you know what, it's
easy to do when you have a boss and a
leader who was so fearless, and again who has the
truth on his side and who has the best record
to stand on. I mean, look at what President Trump
accomplished in his first term in office. We had a
secure border, Our Connie was booming. The world feared us
and respected us. He was the first president ever to
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not get us into any new wars. And you look
at the contrast in Joe Biden's America. Our border again
is wide open, economy in shambles, were on the break
of World War Three. I mean, even with all of this,
I would rather be President Trump's spokesperson than Joe Biden's
any day of the week, every day for the rest
of my life. Because President Trump has a record, and
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he has a vision for this country. He has integrity,
he has conviction. Joe Biden is crooked and corrupt, and
he's a liar, and he is the weakest and most
incoonfident at president this country has ever seen.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Caroline, what do you think of roberts in hero.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Well, that was something I'll tell you. We actually got
tipped off by a nice friendly source outside the courthouse
that the Binden campaign was going to be hosting that
press conference, so myself and my colleagues we headed outside
to punch back, of course, in true President Trumps fashion,
and they were teasing a special guest we didn't know
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who was going to be. All of a sudden, we
see sloppy de Niro shuffling out of time.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
I mean, sorry just for you though you're twenty six
when you see Robert Danier, Bucke and Eye were talking
about this, like, if Leonardo DiCaprio rolled up bucket Eye
around the same age would be like, Okay, that guy's
a badass. Like at least he's the best actor right now.
Maybe I wouldn't call him a badass. I would just
say he's famous. But yeah, well I think I think
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Leonardo coll Okay, I think Leonardo DiCaprio is a badass,
even though I think he's crazy on some political issues
in his profession, he's a badass. But Caroline, you're twenty six,
what Robert de Niro's eighty? Did you think it was
kind of like a they hadn't done a press conference
and then they finally he decided to do one. Did
you feel like it was kind of a It felt
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fake to me that they would decide that Robert de
Niro was their leader.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
Well, that's what I mean, it was. It was mind
boggling to see him. He came out of the car
with a maskot. We're all like, is that Robert de Niro?
What the heck are these people doing? And then he
goes on an unhinged tirade about Donald Trump. And you
could see in the Biden staffers' faces, by the way,
that immediately as Deanira started spiraling out of control, they
knew it was a bad idea. I mean, the whole
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thing just looks j Z. It was disastrous. He was
like going after our supporters, pointing his finger in their faces.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Is there any chance in your mind, Caroline that like,
could that have happened without Joe Biden knowing about it
at all? Meaning the approval of de Niro as their spokesman.
Would that just be somebody on the campaign or do
you think that Biden was like, yeah, that'll do, that'll
be the ticket.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Well, look, who knows. I mean, was Biden awake early
enough to approve that? I'm not sure, but certainly it
came you know, his pain knows what they're doing, and
they had said this entire trial. It's not political. We
have nothing to do with it. Their press conference with
Robert de Niro was a concession that they have everything
to do with this trial in this case that has
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been brought forward.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Caroline, fantastic stuff. As always, we will talk to you
again soon. Do you know boy or girl yet? By
the way, on the baby and what's the delivery date?
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yes, I am.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
I'm having a boy, firstborn son. Very excited about it,
and we'll be having him in a few weeks. I'm
like six weeks thousand my due date and I oh, wow,
I'm doing this. Don't know how I'm doing this all,
but we were fighting through. Like you said, we're fighting
fighting for the country and I'm very excited to the boy.
God knows we need more strong men in this country
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and I look forward to raising one.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
That is awesome. Congratulations on the baby. I can't believe
that you are fighting this hard six weeks out from
the due date. That could be, by the way, right
around July fourth, Right, you could have a July fourth birthday.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
I could and it would be very unbranded, very unbrand
for me to have my baby on fourth of July.
Let's see.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Amen.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Good luck. Thank you Caroline.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Thanks guys, we'll talk to you.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
You're listening to twenty four The Most Important Tier in
Politics with Clay Travis send Buck Sexton.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
We can text Trump adjacent people and say, hey, you
want to have the big guy call and talk to us.
He's under gag order still as I understand it, which
is the whole thing is is completely nuts. But this
is what we're dealing with. But if the president were
to decide today, anytime next week, or anytime between now
and the election, that he wants to call in, we
would welcome that and we would want to hear from him.
(22:43):
So well, we're keeping open that possibility. We just spoke
to my guess what two weeks ago, and now we're
continuing to watch as he speaks out about what has
happened here and how outrageous this is. This is cut five.
We haven't played this one yet, have we about how
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this is? Because you know, fundamentally, I think you're seeing
people who are switching from maybe some when I say people,
I'm talking about some of the voices online, some of
the I don't know, like Nikky Haley primary voters, and
some others who are saying Okay, The stakes here are
(23:25):
actually even bigger than just whether Donald Trump wins this
election or not. The stakes here go to the very
core of what kind of a country we really live in.
And Donald Trump certainly understands that this is him. This
is cut five explaining what really is at stake here.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Play it.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
I'm out there, and I don't mind being out there
because I'm doing something for this country and I'm doing
something for our constitution.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
It's very important, far.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
Beyond me, and this can't be allowed to happen to
other presidents. It should never be allowed to happen in
the future. But this is far beyond me. This is
bigger than Trump. This is bigger than me. This is
bigger than my presidency. And the people understand it because
I just see a poll just came out the Daily
(24:12):
Mail that was the first one came out Who's done
last night, right after the verdict, where I'm up six points,
six points from what we already were we were leading
fairly substantially. We're up six points in the.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
Daily Mail poll.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
Now, maybe other polls come out and says something differently,
but a lot of people have predicted it because the
public understands and they understand what's going on.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
Clay.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
The bump in the numbers so far now it's not
really that official. They've got to do some more polling.
But this is what we had anticipated, and to me,
given where they are right now, what they've already done,
the unprecedented nature of this prosecution and now conviction, the
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rigging of the entire system, They're only going to be
doubling and tripling down. This goes to why I think
they might push for an incarceration of Donald Trump. This
is also why I think I know the Supreme Court
isn't going to come back until probably late June, but
Jack Smith is going to, with the help of Judge Chuckkin,
move mountains to try to get that trial started as
(25:21):
well before the election if possible. Remember if they started
before the election and then Trump doesn't win, they'll settle
it after the election. They will definitely send him to
prison if they can get a conviction on that and
he's not president. I think that goes without saying. So
this is the Biden re election campaign. We are seeing it.
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This is a moment where we have to take stock
of what their plans are. But so far it has
not had the intended effect. I think of turning public
opinion against Trump in the ways that they needed to
to win. But then again, they're cheating, so who knows.
Who knows what's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
I do think what you just hit on is incredibly important.
This matters a great deal. But the reason why the
entire Biden reelection campaign is focused on Trump is because
Biden has failed on inflation. He's failed on the border,
He's failed at keeping us out of war in Europe
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and out of war in the Middle East. He has
failed on crime. He has failed on virtually everything that
all of you care about on a day to day basis.
They can't run on Hey, the economy's amazing because all
of you are paying seven percent mortgage rates right now
(26:43):
on your thirty year and when he came into office,
if you were fortunate enough to have a mortgage rate
locked up, you got two and a half or three
percent on it. Inflation was one point four percent when
Biden came into office. They do it on a year
by year basis, so they can argue, oh, it's only
(27:04):
three point four percent now, but you never unring the
inflation bell. You're paying over twenty percent more for everything
than you were before Joe Biden came into office. Groceries, gas,
your fast food, everything that you have to purchase to
(27:28):
live on on a day to day basis is up
over twenty percent on average, and most of us have
not seen our paychecks grow by over twenty percent. So
you got a default pay decrease from Joe Biden's economic
policies to say nothing. I was talking down here in Florida, Buck.
(27:51):
A lot of Memphis people come down to this beach
where I am for their summer vacations. I was talking
to a couple from Memphis the other day. They listened
to the show. They said, I couldn't believe when you
and Buck were talking about the Memphis crime rate. Memphis
has more murders now than New York City. There are
(28:13):
a lot of cities out there, Kansas City, Atlanta, Philadelphia
that don't necessarily get the same attention. People tend to
know what happens in New York City with crime. They
tend to know what happens in la There are a
lot of cities in the middle part of the country
where the crime rate is out of control. Nobody talks
(28:36):
about it. I just came from Washington d C. Washington,
d C is at a twenty five year high on murder.
A lot of people not talking about this. There is
a deep well of discomfort in this country. And I
think to your point, the reason why the Trump attacks
are not landing is most people have way more serious
(29:00):
things that they're worried about in their day to day
life than what happens to Donald Trump. But you see
the attack on Trump for what it is, which is
a furtherance on the attack of your way of life
in America. And I take it again, I'm angry, and
you said right off the top, you're angry. We are
(29:22):
both really angry. Anger's not a strategy. Okay. So I
had this conversation with my sixteen year old last night.
He's just finished his sophomore year in high school. He
was watching the news with me last night and he
couldn't really believe what was going on, and he was angry.
And I said to him, hey, I want you to
(29:43):
go on graduate from high school, go to college, become
because I think he's got the skill set to do
it a lawyer and fight for the country, to actually
make good decisions in the law. Because a lot of
people throw up their hands and they get frustrated and
they just don't want to engage. I want all of
you to engage legally in a really serious way right now.
(30:08):
If you can donate money, do it. If you can volunteer, volunteer.
If you can't do either of those things, at least
go vote yourself and buck you know this, Find people
who are persuadable and have conversations with them and persuade them.
There's a lot of people out there, tens of millions
who never vote, and you know how, but they feel
politically but they're just disengaged because they're frustrated. They feel
(30:29):
like their vote doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Talk to them.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
I would also say that this is a it's a
little bit like how I felt about Masks and Faucci
and all that during COVID. This is a true litmus
test moment. Anybody out there who thinks that what who
thinks that this prosecution in New York City was just
and fair and righteous, is someone whose opinion you cannot
(30:55):
trust or listen to on any matter of any importance whatsoever.
And in fact, any Demo Democrat who goes along with
this has malicious intent for the United States. I mean,
it is truly undermining and hurting the country. This goes
beyond I disagree with them. This is in a dispute
over you know, how many legal immigrants we should take
(31:17):
in every year, or what the tax code should be,
or anything like that. This is fundamental stuff. This is
foundational to this republic, and anybody who is cheering this
on is cheering on the destruction of the country that
we live in. That's honestly how I feel about it.
And I don't say that about a lot of things.
I'm not somebody who's prone to talk about, you know,
the other side as as doing irreparable damage to the
(31:41):
country on a whole range of issues, although sometimes I do.
But on this one, this is actually too far. This
is a moment that people will look back on and
they will say, hopefully, wow, we came close to really
losing something precious in our society. But thank god Trump
won that election. But that's months away and it is
(32:03):
not a done deal.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
The precedent that could be the history here is Trump
beats Biden, and Democrats go back and they say, trying
to put your chief political adversary in prison during an
election year turns off a huge percentage of the vote
and is a very poor decision because you know what
else could happen. Biden could win, and then people on
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the Democrat side will say, this is our game plan.
It doesn't matter who the Republican is. We'll find and
charge them with a crime somewhere in a blue city,
blue state jurisdiction where we have a rubber stamp jury
and we will put them in prison. And this is
how we win elections. And eventually, do you know what
(32:50):
that leads to? It leads to totalitarianism because as soon
as you start believing if you lose an election, not
only do you lose an election, but you and your
family go to prison, the stakes get a lot higher.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Well, this is something I know of from you know,
time in the CIA, but also studying how intelligence and
security services work in much of the world. In a
lot of places, there's this there's this death spiral or
freedom that occurs because we're talking about the prosecution and
incarceration of political opponents. Right, yes, well, yeah, that's bad.
(33:27):
But also then even if somebody who is in power
doesn't want to do that to the other team that's
doing it, they recognize, well, crap, if I lose, They're
going to do it to me. So now I'm justified
in doing whatever i have to do to stay in power.
And I've got to put on the brass knuckles and
I've got to break rules and go to extremes, and
(33:51):
it just becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. People think, you know, what,
what is the what are the security services? Intelligence services
most focused on a lot of countries. It's actually not
security of like the people. It's the security of the regime.
It is keeping the people.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
In power in power.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
It's not about protecting the general public from external threats
or whatever that It is an obsession in the Middle East,
in Sub Saharan Africa, in Latin America. You know, the
people that are supposed to be monitoring security, they're actually
trying to make sure that the people that are calling
the shots and paying them right now stay calling the
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shots and paying them for the foreseeable right So this
is the consequences of this are truly destabilizing, and it
makes a society that had otherwise been free deteriorate very rapidly.
Because you create a winner take all scenario, right, everything
becomes zero sum. Yes, And you know, I don't see
(34:51):
how we're not heading toward that. We haven't even talked
about this. The J six case is happening at some
point unless Trump wins and pardons himself. I mean, the
JA six case is going to happen. They're going to
get a guilty verdict on that one, everybody, and they're
going to lock him up. There's no question in my mind.
If they can get the J six case to a
trial to a verdict, he will be convicted in DC,
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and the DC judge will try to lock him up.
Maybe the Supreme Court will intervene. You know, maybe there
are some other things that could happen, but if that
pattern continues, oh, they're absolutely sending him to prison over that,
absolutely no doubt.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
And again it's not ending here because I see some
people say, well, just don't do X or just don't
do HY and you'll be fine. I've never been arrested
in my life. I don't believe I've ever committed a
crime in my life. If the Democrat apparatus decided to
(35:50):
investigate every tax filing I've ever made, if they decided
to investigate every public statement that I've ever made, they
would charge me with a and that's not me being unique.
Every single one of you, if the Biden Justice Department
will sicked upon you, unless you are Jesus Christ himself.
(36:11):
They will find something that you have done that violates
the law, and they will charge you and they will
try to put you in prison too. And this is
where Trump is correct when he says it's not just
about me, and I hope he keeps hammering this theme.
The precedent set for what happens to Trump will echo
throughout the ages here, and that's why we have to win,
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and that's why we have to win big.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
You're listening to twenty four the Year of Impact with
Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Wanted to play a cut for you of Rush that
has gone viral that I think a lot of you
will remember. Let's play cut thirty two. This is right
now echoing on the internet. I think many of you
will recall it about Trump list.
Speaker 7 (37:00):
I know they desperately want Trump gone, and I know
that they desperately want it codified that Trump cannot run again,
because make no mistake, they remain scared to death of you,
and they remain scared to death of Trump. Trumps seventy
five million, eighty million votes, and I'm going to tell
you you're not going anywhere even if Trump does. You're
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not you know what you believe, you know what your
vision for the country is. You're not going to give
up on it. You're not going to go packing away.
They believe that they can they can destroy this bond
that exists between you and Trump if they somehow make
Trump look bad, make Trump look like a reprobate, embarrass
(37:43):
you about Trump. They can't do it because you came
before Trump.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I think that's well said, and many of you will
recall Rush speaking out in that manner. And this is
what's going on, Buck. They're trying to make it unacceptable
to vote for Trump the people that they believe are persuadable.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
And they're also sending a message and they've been doing
this for quite some time now that if you stand
with Trump, they will come after you. Look At what
they're doing to Steve Bannon, who isn't so interesting. R
Chan has a Steve Bannon case in New York too.
Look what they're doing to Alan Weiselberg, the geriatric accountant
who has been sent to Rikers Down. Look what they've
(38:24):
done to Peter Navarro. They're coming after a lot of
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